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Offline Edge

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Re: Calvin Tatsey & The Red Nation Society
« on: August 13, 2009, 10:51:01 pm »
Does anyone know Calvin Tatsey? I believe he is a member of the Blackfeet Nation of Montana. He has a social network on .ning called The Red Nation Society.
Someone I know joined briefly and left after she found out there was a subgroup for Wicca on his social network site, and the owner of this subgroup is his lead council member. It seems Calvin Tatsey has to give the ok for any subgroups so he is aware of this Wiccan group.

One cannot get to see the subgroups of the .ning site unless they join as a member, which I don't plan to do.
I looked Calvin Tatsey on google and he seems to be Native and involved in The Blackfeet Review, but allowing a Wiccan group on his social site makes me wonder.

Any information is appreciated.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/07104190254488675353

The Red Nation Society: http://therednationsociety.ning.com/

Thank you.


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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 08:28:43 pm »
HE A FRAUD FOR SURE

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 04:30:51 pm »
We have several threads in here that mention the RNS. It's not a fraud group like the ones we usually post warnings on. Basically they are a social network that spreads lots of misinformation and are also tied to another even more dubious group, Native American Unity.

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 08:44:50 pm »
Thank you for the information, educatedindian  & ladybug.

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 12:43:06 pm »
I did a netsearch and could not find anything showing that he's selling ceremony. Tatsey may be a twit, but then again he's perfectly entitled to that, same as any other person on this planet.

However, there is a guest book entry I'd like to point out:


http://3909.my-gaestebuch.de/gindex.php?userid=3909&start=30


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Am 24.12.2008 - 11:18 Uhr schrieb Calvin Tatsey
 
Oki Niscunnie:

You have a great and honorble site here, Indianer Fire. If you ever need anything that I can assist you with in the way of Native American, I'm always available to you at The Red Nation Society, my friend. >>~~~>BGS

The guest book belongs to William Jervis aka Firewalker aka Turtle Winds who's got a thread in our fraud section. Offering assistance to a fraud looks somewhat fishy.

I also saw this bio:

http://www.chinausfriendship.com/article1.asp?mn=145

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Oki Niscunnie (Hello my Friend). My name is Calvin Tatsey. I am fifty two years old. My Indian name is Big Gun Sees Good, which represents Power and Wisdom, according to my name giver. I am the father of four and the grandfather of eight. I am an enrolled member of The Blackfeet Nation of Montana. I have resided on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation throughout my entire life, with migrations to attend school, training, work and to experience different cultures, people and places. I have experienced every Blackfeet ceremony, except for The Sundance; however, I have assisted with the preparations of and observed several throughout their durations. I have worked at several occupations, e.g., cowboy, farm-worker, tree planter and thinner, logger, lifeguard, store clerk, police dispatcher, police officer, jailer, correctional officer, casino surveillance supervisor, heavy equipment operator, building constructions, chemical dependency counselor, etc...; and through all that, I've been a Writer first-and-foremost! My life-and-work experiences are vast and many; my cultural experiences are the same; my writing -- Fiction -- involves and draws from both, relating and applying to Native American issues, news and first-hand stories pertaining to culture, ceremonies, language and Native American life; some are short and some are long, but all are interesting and entertaining. I am an addictions counselor with a degree in Human Services (minor in Psychology) and a CDC Certificate and I have worked in the field professionally; however, my love for writing now requires most of my time, so I am no longer in the field. I am currently in the process of enrolling-in Montana State University’s 2008 fall semester: Mass Communications, (journalism) program. I have graduated from two Law Enforcement Academies: the Montana Law Enforcement Academy and Corrections Corporation of America. I am a versatile writer who writes compelling stories and articles that grab attention and connect with people; a marketing writer; a copywriter; a poet, and a well rounded professional. I have over thirty years of writing experience.

[Emphasis above added by me.]
I do see a few red flags in this bio written by Tatsey himself. His using the term "Indian name" may be due to making himself understood better in a non-native environment. On the other hand, he stresses his alleged expertise in the field of ceremonies and writing 'stories' about them...


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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 05:32:09 pm »
Oki Folks:

I know Calvin Tatsey, this is me and I am, a bona fide member of The Blackfeet Tribe of Montana, and not some wannabe, like "Edge" and some other responders (not including educatedindian, whom I'm sure is for real and honorable) of this shallowly-obtuse post, which, on an intellectual/intelligence level, shouldn't have been given the time that it took to key and post a serious reply by the other idiots -- again, not including educatedindian within this catagory.

Yes, I do have the group ("The Elite American Indian Group") The Red Nation Society and it's the real McCoy, because it's owned, operated and managed by the real McCoy:  An actual American Indian, with an actual American Indian background, ancestors, blood degree and experiences, who also has an enrolled, American Indian wife.

Here's some information for you, Wendell, and Wendell's full-Italian wife, who writes for him because Wendell is too illiterate to write for himself; The same Wendell Deer With Horns whose full-Italian wife is the wiccan practitioner who'd wanted and urged me to accept the wiccan group into TRNS from a personal-friend of hers whom she'd personally-invited, but whom, after I'd kicked Wendell and his full-Italian wife out of The Red Nation Society because of being nothing but a couple of lying, manipulating-troublemakers, on July 26, 2009 they subsequently posted this message; however, they certainly are not, even combined, intelligent enough to disguise Wendell's wife's writing style, or their biased ramblings.

Okay, no need to wonder, Wendell, because as you know, The Red Nation Society is 100% non-discriminatory and 100% non-censored, consequently, even without your full-Italian, wiccan-practitioner-wife's attempts at manipulation, I would have still allowed the wiccan group to be a part of TRNS.  Now what information would you like to hear, Wendell, or are you satisfied?

Respectfully,

Big Gun Sees Good, aka, Calvin Tatsey


Does anyone know Calvin Tatsey? I believe he is a member of the Blackfeet Nation of Montana. He has a social network on .ning called The Red Nation Society.
Someone I know joined briefly and left after she found out there was a subgroup for Wicca on his social network site, and the owner of this subgroup is his lead council member. It seems Calvin Tatsey has to give the ok for any subgroups so he is aware of this Wiccan group.

One cannot get to see the subgroups of the .ning site unless they join as a member, which I don't plan to do.
I looked Calvin Tatsey on google and he seems to be Native and involved in The Blackfeet Review, but allowing a Wiccan group on his social site makes me wonder.

Any information is appreciated.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/07104190254488675353

The Red Nation Society: http://therednationsociety.ning.com/

Thank you.




« Last Edit: January 02, 2010, 12:48:56 am by blackfeet4ever »

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2009, 06:12:26 pm »
I placed another post in "ecetera" called lawsuits .... but after reading this, I wanted to write this here .... I can not understand the reason for name calling or "lawsuits" as Steve YellowHand mentioned in a previous response. These ways are dominant societies ways .... or childish ways .... it is one thing to defend yourself against what you percieve to be a malicious attack .... but whats up with the name calling and bull sh*t like that?  Get a grip .... Calvin, I only know things you write from what I saw in Red Nation  .... you are suppose to be a journalist .... write intelligble responses ..... if Steve YellowHand is reading this .... if you are a "wapiye" wicasa .... then present yourself as one .... or even if your claims to sundancing are fact .... then present yourself as one .... lawsuits and childish words are the way dominant society presents itself ....

blackfeet4ever

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 12:45:28 am »
Ha, ha, ha...sure, slolwaye sni, anonymity can make anyone a critiquing-expert of their superiors, even the cowardly critiquers can have their say, albeit their critique is worth about as much as their Heart, i.e., zilch...
I placed another post in "ecetera" called lawsuits .... but after reading this, I wanted to write this here .... I can not understand the reason for name calling or "lawsuits" as Steve YellowHand mentioned in a previous response. These ways are dominant societies ways .... or childish ways .... it is one thing to defend yourself against what you percieve to be a malicious attack .... but whats up with the name calling and bull sh*t like that?  Get a grip .... Calvin, I only know things you write from what I saw in Red Nation  .... you are suppose to be a journalist .... write intelligble responses ..... if Steve YellowHand is reading this .... if you are a "wapiye" wicasa .... then present yourself as one .... or even if your claims to sundancing are fact .... then present yourself as one .... lawsuits and childish words are the way dominant society presents itself ....
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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 06:11:41 pm »
On the public Red Nation Society (RNS) page on ning there are several ads for workshops by notorious fraud William Jervis (aka Firewalker aka Turtle Winds). Clicking on his name in the ads seems to indicate that Jervis has a profile page on the Red Nation Society group, which I think means he's a member of their group.

The workshop listings are in the right hand column. Clicking on the names brings up a page for the workshops themselves, and Jervis himself, but you have to be a member of the group to see those pages.

http://therednationsociety.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network
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It looks like another member has posted a warning about Jervis from EsoWatch. It will be interesting to see which posts stay up, or if they all do, and if they continue to have Jervis as a member of the network. The photos in their left hand column photostream are... interesting, as well.

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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010, 06:14:28 pm »
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Re: Calvin Tatsey
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010, 06:53:04 pm »
Tatsey's site has some very interesting members, so e.g. Helmut Christof who is an ex-Deer Tribe student. He still sells ceremonies and makes more shame-ons.

Another member of RNS is --- Tacan'sina Kalagin.

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Re: Re: Calvin Tatsey & The Red Nation Society
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2010, 07:06:23 pm »
Main thread on Kalagin:  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1569.0

More on Kalagin via the search function on the main page.

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Re: Calvin Tatsey & The Red Nation Society
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2010, 08:03:01 am »
Hi
In answer to your question 'Does anyone know Calvin Tatsey?' Well I can honestly say I am very proud and honoured to know Mr Tatsey. I have been a member of the Red Nation Society since January 2010 and the friendship and kind gentle teaching and patient ways of showing me Native ways of thinking I have learned through Mr Tatsey, so much  I never even knew it existed. I have to say from reading all your arguments about Mr Tatsey I can blatently see that you don't know this Man.
You have also all misunderstood many other things too:

1. Mr Tatsey is not the owner of Ning, he is however the webmaster of The Red Nation Society. This site uses the Ning platform of which Mr Tatsey only has one group.

2. The Red Nation Society is a group of people all learning from each other and helping one another along lifes path, through respect, peace, love and understanding. In TRNS, there are many people who have talents for very many things and if a person has a particular passion for something they can set up a discussion group about it in TRNS.

3 If you are expecting a meally mouthed Indian Gentleman who will say yes sir, no sir, etc etc, then be prepared to be disappointed when you meet Mr Tatsey. He is not a man to hide his feelings but neither will he take rubbish from people, he is definitely not a 'yes' man. But he is intensely proud of his heritage and rightly so when you see pictures of his family past, he is definitely Blackfoot Montana as all his family were and he is certainly pure Native American.

4.Mr Tatsey has two Masters degrees and is a Former Police Officer amongst other things, so I really rather doubt any of you really know him. He is a writer but has never been a reporter.

5. Mr Tatsey runs TRNS for everyone to learn of the Native way from all nations, it is the way we learn about Native peoples of other Countries too. After all every Country has native people. Since January 2010 when I joined I have never seen any Wicca sub group and I have joined them all! 
TRNS teaches respect and tolerance for all, from a True Native American perspective led by a  51/64th's American Indian blood total Blackfoot Indian

A Man and his wife who I am proud to call my friends.

When you have walked in Mr Tatseys shoes for a day then please feel free to judge, but until then, please don't criticise him or TRNS for I know of many, many people who owe so much to him and his wife, I am one of them.

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Re: Calvin Tatsey & The Red Nation Society
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2010, 01:04:22 pm »
Hi Yorkielass,

Perhaps you would like to introduce yourself.

By the name are you from Yorkshire, England, by any chance

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Re: Re: Calvin Tatsey & The Red Nation Society
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2010, 04:12:48 pm »
If I met someone online 7 months ago.. I would not say that I know them.

edited to add:  If I met someone offline 7 months ago.. I would not say that I know them. 

7 months is not a long time at all.  It's less than a year, even a year is not a long enough time to say you 'know' someone. 
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