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Frauds / Re: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« Last post by Sandy S on August 02, 2025, 09:52:43 pm »
Obituary of Gary Adler's brother: https://obituaries.durangoherald.com/us/obituaries/durangoherald/name/stephen-adler-obituary?id=52173665

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Stephen Edward Adler, 75, of Mancos, Colorado, died 5/30/2023, Valley Inn in Mancos, Born 9/2/1947. A service will be held at 3:30 p.m. on June 14 at Thunderbird Ranch, 11020 County Road 105, Mancos. Stephen Edward succumbed to Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease. Stephen was the son of Antoinette "Toni" May Adler and Charles Calvin Adler.

He is survived by his son, Zachary Adler (32) and his older brother Gary Adler Fourstar.

Gary and his siblings' grandparents are Nathan Adler, Rebecca Abramowitz, Samuel Jacob Hurwitt, Pearl Szupnyik. Samuel Jacob Hurwitt was born in Lithuania.

Gary Jay Adler, his brother Stephen, and their parents can be seen in the 1950 federal census. Burbank, Los Angeles, California.

This information is from https://www.familysearch.org/en/united-states/ . You do need to sign up for a free account to use. The family tree I found on these families is very well sourced.



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Frauds / Re: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« Last post by Sandy S on August 02, 2025, 09:23:20 pm »
"Debby Fourstar" = Debora Bullock.

Her father's obituary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/atlanta/name/freeman-pearlmutter-obituary?id=27355438

Debora Bullock is listed as owner of the 11020 CR 105, Mancos, Colorado property.
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Frauds / Re: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« Last post by Sandy S on August 02, 2025, 07:27:34 pm »
Search Arizona corporations for Many Horses Foundation: https://ecorp.azcc.gov/entitysearch/index

CEO (Chief Executive Officer)   GARY FOURSTAR      11020 CR 105, MANCOS, CO, 81328, Montezuma County, USA   

Director   DEBBY FOURSTAR      11020 CR 105, MANCOS, CO, 81328, Montezuma County, USA   

Officer   JANET FORBES      PO BOX 4053, COTTONWOOD, AZ, 86326, Yavapai County, USA
   
President   Jason Cotharp      3480 Groovers Lake Rd., LITHIA SPRINGS, GA, 30122, Douglas County, USA   

Treasurer   Linda Jenkins      5731 S. River Rd., DOUGLASVILLE, GA, 30135, Douglas County, USA

Secretary   Meijen Cotharp      3480 Groovers Lake Rd., LITHIA SPRINGS, GA, 30122, Douglas County, USA   

They have foreign nonprofit status in Colorado and Georgia, home state is Arizona.


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Frauds / Re: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« Last post by Sandy S on August 02, 2025, 07:16:30 pm »
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Gary Adler Fourstar and the Many Horses Foundation
Anyone ever heard of this guy and his antics?

Ok so I'm not 100% positive this group classifies as a full-fledged cult, but as a former follower of the group I believe it may be. It is a "Native American" group aimed towards non natives and run by a scam artist who claims a false lineage to a Native American family. He alleges to have learned his spiritual practices and healing abilities from said family and uses this as a platform to peddle fake ceremonies to vulnerable people he then siphons money from. I have seen him ruin relationships/marriages, pit current followers against former followers and engage in dangerous mind games all under the guise of helping people heal from past trauma and pain. He was also alleged to engage in sexual activities with some followers to energetically "heal" them. Activities of the group are based mainly in Colorado, and Georgia, where he holds sweat lodges, workshops, 'tobacco ceremonies' and other completely fraudulent ceremonies he markets as following some vague Native American tradition.

I am sharing in an effort to let people know he is out there, and I guess as sort of a confession that I was so stupid to buy into it all during a very vulnerable/traumatized time in my life. I'm posting from a throw-away account because I'm so embarrassed to admit I was duped by this asshat and his nonsense.

Below is a link to a thread on New Age Fraud's site about him and his "organization"

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=138.45


https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/citpfu/gary_adler_fourstar_and_the_many_horses_foundation/
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Research Needed / Re: Metis Nation of Ontario
« Last post by Sparks on August 01, 2025, 04:39:36 pm »
Quote from: Sparks on July 31, 2025, 04:31:34 pm
The Metis Nation of Ontario has been mentioned in three earlier comments (both pro and con) in the NAFPS forum.

They maintain a comprehensive web site: https://www.metisnation.org/

They are also on: • Twitter  • Facebook  • Instagram  • LinkedIn  • YouTube. See links at bottom of their website.
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Research Needed / Re: John Somosi
« Last post by Sparks on August 01, 2025, 04:30:27 pm »
Quote from: Sparks on July 31, 2025, 04:31:34 pm
The Metis Nation of Ontario has been mentioned in three earlier comments (both pro and con) in the NAFPS forum.

They maintain a comprehensive web site: https://www.metisnation.org/

They are also on: • Twitter  • Facebook  • Instagram  • LinkedIn  • YouTube. See links at bottom of their website.

Maybe this large group should be invetigated in a separate topic?

A new topic has been created: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5731.0 [Metis Nation of Ontario]
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Frauds / Re: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« Last post by educatedindian on August 01, 2025, 01:35:02 am »
Got a report that Adler is still ceremony selling in Colorado. Online search shows he's based in Manco, CO. The account describes him recruiting followers in Georgia to go to his ceremony selling in CO. This is deliberately done during the coldest part of winter and includes prolonged fasting to make them more suggestible.

He has four phony profiles on Linkedin, all as Fourstar. Reported them and urge others to do so.

He also was the producer for a series Apocalyptic Survival. If you find his photo he's a dead ringer for Uncle Jesse on Dukes of Hazzard. It's a wonder how anyone thought he was NDN, much less an elder.
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Research Needed / Re: John Somosi
« Last post by Sandy S on August 01, 2025, 01:18:24 am »
Regarding his maternal side:

Pearl (Lizotte) Somosi is his mother. Back about 5 generations on an unsourced family tree on familysearch.org there are claims to Red River connections and prior to that France.

I don't know if John Somosi can legitimately claim a Métis identity and citizenship.

John Somosi refers to himself as a "mutt".

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Research Needed / Re: John Somosi
« Last post by Sandy S on August 01, 2025, 12:56:15 am »
According to a family tree on familysearch.org his father was born in Hungary.

Istavan (Steve) Somosi

Birth: 22 March 1935
Bolyok, Borsod, Hungary
Death: 25 September 2016
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Research Needed / Re: John Somosi
« Last post by Sandy S on August 01, 2025, 12:09:32 am »
Correction on his mother's birth name, it is Lizotte.

John Somosi's maternal grandparents:

Joseph Xavier Lizotte https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65018689/joseph_xavier-lizotte
Laura Clara (Desjarlais) Lizotte https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65018687/laura_clara-lizotte
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