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Etcetera / Re: Oh my God — Germany's Far-Right Extremists
« Last post by Sparks on September 17, 2021, 04:14:07 am »,1518,798682,00.html

The title of this NAFPS topic says nothing about the contents of this ten years old article, which is:

Hidden in Plain SightFacts and Myths about Germany's Far-Right Extremists

This summer, the New York Times published this comprehensive article, which I post as an update to the topic. The article also gives the historical background, starting with the aftermath of World War I.

On the Path to Day X: The Return of Germany’s Far Right
Produced by Lauren Jackson and Tara Godvin
Reporting by Katrin Bennhold, Melissa Eddy and Christopher F. Schuetze
Edited by Peter Robins
Published June 25, 2021 Updated July 6, 2021

I note that the 'Nazi' word in the URL seems to have been removed from the article's title.

Quoting from the above article:

In our new audio series, Day X, we explore the recent resurgence of the far right in Germany. It’s a story about a changing national identity — and the backlash against it — raising a question that democracies across the world are waking up to: What happens when the threat is coming from within?

Link to the audio series:

One example:
Member Introductions / Re: Sunny's Introduction
« Last post by Sparks on September 14, 2021, 11:49:04 pm »
Lorraine has come back (after more than a decade) with a new introduction: [Reintroducing myself]

Because topics have been merged everything is now in the thread you are reading now.
Member Introductions / Re: Sunny's Introduction
« Last post by Sparks on September 14, 2021, 03:39:13 am »
Lorraine has come back (after more than a decade) with a new introduction: [Reintroducing myself]

I joined the forum today because of a 2008 post by educatedeagle [probably educatedindian] about a cousin of mine who's made wild claims about our ancestry.

It would be interesting to know more about your cousin, and what happened since 2008?
Member Introductions / Re: Reintroducing myself
« Last post by Sparks on September 14, 2021, 03:32:07 am »
Hello Lorraine, I'm also a retired librarian, who specialised in indigenous circumpolar peoples and their religions.

I left a couple of posts when I was here before.

I found your first introduction here:

Then you wrote this post in the topic "For Those Who Recently Discovered Indian Ancestry".

It would be interesting to know more about your experiences with particular frauds and plastic shamans.
Member Introductions / Reintroducing myself
« Last post by SunnyinNJ on September 13, 2021, 12:43:55 am »
 I haven't been to this forum in a long time but something brought me here tonight.  I'm a senior female.  I'm a retired librarian and a family historian as differentiated from a professional genealogist.  I've been researching all my families since my mid-20s.  I became interested in family history because my maternal grandmother told me repeatedly that we had Native ancestry.  Decades later, another relative, on my father's side, told us of Native ancestors in those families.  I wanted to find them.  I have given up that goal and just enjoy searching for the origins of each of my family lines.

I spent quite a lot of time, in the 1990s, involved in Native activities and issues, promoted Native authors, artists, educators, etc., in my professional capacity as a librarian and learned a great deal.  One of the things I learned is that, even if I had Native ancestors, I wasn't raised in a Native culture  I'm, more or less, a stereotypical WASP.

I left a couple of posts when I was here before.  Since then, I have had my DNA tested and my father's DNA tested and we found no Native DNA.  I was advised by a young man from one of the Haudenosaunee nations that that doesn't necessarily mean there were no Native ancestors but that they may have been so far back in the history of the families that the evidence has dropped off.  I'm not too sure about that. 

I do think that most people who want to claim Native ancestry that isn't substantiated don't think they're special or interesting.  In a certain way, none of us are; in another way each of us is unique and are living a life that is unique to us and, therefore, special and interesting. 

I very much appreciate Native cultures and history and, while I'm not currently active in things Native but when something comes up, I do try to correct misinformation that I'm clear about and explain what I know or refer people to resources.  I'm always surprised by people who I generally respect who don't seem to understand the difference between real Native culture and spirituality and NAFs.  But, I'm just an ordinary person so...there are Native individuals who are better able to make these distinctions.
Frauds / Re: Jacob Chansley AKA Jake Angeli AKA Q Shaman, QAnon Terrorist
« Last post by educatedindian on September 07, 2021, 10:02:24 pm »
Can't make these up.

The “QAnon Shaman,” as Jacob Chansley has come to be known since the January 6 Capitol riot, has said he no longer wants to be associated with the QAnon movement.

Mr Chansley pleaded guilty on Friday to felony obstruction of Congress in the Capitol riot, and faces at least three years in prison.

Attending the insurrection bare-chested, while sporting face paint and a large horned fur hat, Mr Chansley cut a notable figure on the day. Images of him inside the Capitol circulated widely in the press and on social media during the aftermath of the riot.

The ??self-described QAnon conspiracy follower, who has also gone by the name of Jake Angeli, was photographed holding a 6ft spear with the American flag tied to it in the Senate chamber, while chanting, shouting, and calling the former Vice President Mike Pence a “traitor.”

He admitted leaving a note saying: “It’s Only A Matter of Time. Justice Is Coming!” on the vice president’s presiding desk.

Ahead of Friday’s hearing, Mr Chansley’s lawyer, Albert Watkins, released a statement to the Huffington Post in which he said Mr Chansley “repudiates the ‘Q’ moniker” and no longer wanted to be associated with “Q.”

Mr Chansley, Mr Watkins wrote, was a “long avowed and practicing Shaman,” but he had “repudiated the ‘Q’ previously assigned to him and requests future references to him be devoid of use of the letter ‘Q.’

According to FBI reports, Mr Chansley was one of more than 20 self-identified QAnon adherents to be arrested at the riot.

The U.S. Capitol rioter nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" is disappointed former President Donald Trump did not pardon him, his defense lawyer said on Friday after the man pleaded guilty to taking part in the Jan. 6 unrest.

Jacob Chansley, of Phoenix, Arizona, was photographed inside the Capitol shirtless, wearing a horned headdress and heavily tattooed. He has been held without bond since his arrest shortly after the riot, and on Friday entered a guilty plea to obstructing an official proceeding.

While in detention, Chansley underwent mental examinations and was diagnosed by prison officials with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety.

Nearly 600 people have been arrested over the attack on the Capitol where Congress was meeting to certify Joe Biden's November victory over Trump. Earlier Trump had given a fiery speech falsely claiming his defeat was the result of fraud.

While the felony charge Chansley pleaded guilty to carries both a maximum 20-year prison term and a fine of up to $250,000, prosecutor Kimberly Paschall indicated the maximum sentence the government was likely to request would be much shorter.

Chansley had been a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory that casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals.

Although he did not get a pardon from Trump, Chansley's defense lawyer Albert Watkins said "there will always be a soft spot" for Trump in Chansley's heart.

At Friday's plea hearing, Watkins asked Judge Royce Lamberth to allow Chansley to be released from prison pending a sentencing hearing, scheduled for Nov. 17. The judge said he would consider this request.

Watkins noted that prosecutors had acknowledged Chansley was "not a planner or organizer" of the riot. Watkins later told reporters that Chansley had cooperated with Jan. 6 investigations and informed on a group he saw stealing classified materials from a Senate office.

The lawyer for Jacob “QAnon Shaman” Chansley says his client felt an attraction to former President Donald Trump akin to that of a first love.

Al Watkins made the bizarre claim at a news conference after Mr Chansley pleaded guilty in federal court on Friday to obstruction of justice for his role in the January 6 insurrection.

“He had a fondness for Trump that was not unlike the first love a man may have for a girl, or a girl for a man, or man for a man,” Mr Watkins said. “The first love always, always maintains a tender and soft spot in the heart of the lover.”

With his bellowing voice, viking-like horns, fur headdress and tattooed, shirtless frame, Chansley became the best-known of the thousands of insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol to protest the results of the 2020 Presidential election.

Since his arrest shortly after the riots, he has been held without bail.

Mr Watkins also argued that Chansley has experienced mental health problems and had been “seduced” by Mr Trump.

“Today Jake made a monumental step toward doing right by our nation,” Mr Watkins said at Friday’s news conference.

Speaking about the “lovers” statement on CNN, anchor Jim Acosta asked: “We can’t blame all of this on love, can we? What a bizarre comment.”

“This is sad that people who believed in Donald Trump are now going to pay a very personal cost, as they should,” former Republican Congresswoman Barbara Comstock replied. “These were criminal actions on January 6th.”....
Research Needed / Re: "Chief Standing Cloud"
« Last post by ska on September 07, 2021, 02:01:12 pm »
Sorry, to be clear about my previous post,  the late Pat Hendrickson is the "Chief Standing Cloud" is the "third CSC" associated with Diane Gower and the Vancouver Island Sun Dance.

Research Needed / Re: "Chief Standing Cloud"
« Last post by ska on September 07, 2021, 01:02:50 pm »
"Chief Standing Cloud" is the late Patrick Hendrickson, which was already established on this website years ago.  He's not Lakota but did practice the AIM-created hodge-podge of spiritual exploitation that claims to be based in Lakota ways.

My husband (who is Sicangu Lakota) and I (I am not native to Turtle Island) attended the Vancouver Island "Sun Dance" almost 15 years ago. Pat had passed on and the Sun  Dance was being led by someone named Kevin Campbell.  He claimed Mi'kmaq, called Leonard Crow Dog "Uncle" and said that everything he learned about the Lakota spiritual way, he learned through violence.  :(

scary stuff. Mostly white people and tourists from Japan, Australia and New Zealand. a "moon camp" of menstruating women right at the entrance of the "ceremonial" grounds. 

singers learning songs from tapes.  making up songs as they went along, faking the words, not knowing what they were singing, no knowledge of whose songs they were singing, or the meaning of each song or when/why it would be sung.

constant snagging. arbor sounded like a rodeo. they sang pop songs at the drum (not even kidding - Keith Secola's "indian car"). All joking aside, it made us both sad and angry. We left and never returned and I shared information about this on this website many years ago.

There was no respect there but a lot of performance and drama. Don't think this one is going on anymore, but others have started on the West Coast that are just as bad.

Member Introductions / Re: Hello from hedgerose in England
« Last post by Sparks on September 02, 2021, 02:02:56 am »
For instance I was reading about children's books and found Debbie Reese's lovely blog, which I think I have learned something from, she makes the point that genuine native Americans will generally say precisely where they are from.nd where from etc. I emailed Diane to ask and will append that reply in that thread.

My bolding. That blog has been mentioned several times in here. I post the URL for new readers:

Established in 2006 by Dr. Debbie Reese of Nambé Pueblo, American Indians in Children's Literature (AICL) provides critical analysis of Indigenous peoples in children's and young adult books. Dr. Jean Mendoza joined AICL as a co-editor in 2016.
Frauds / Re: George Price & Quaker Sweatlodge
« Last post by Sparks on September 02, 2021, 01:33:07 am »
The topic of this thread was mentioned by a new member a few months ago, so I'll update here:

I'm involved with Quakers who I know don't have a great reputation in some circles. I had heard about the dreadful Quaker guy over in the USA who was running "Quaker Sweatlodge" and wouldn't stop even when asked, even before I found the thread here Also I have heard of Chuck Fager, who was a vocal supporter of the "sweatlodge guy" :-[. Anyway, I hope Quakers over here in England are not all like those guys. I know a few Quakers in the USA by email so may be able to ask connections to find out something if Quakers over there are misbehaving still/again at any point.

That group is now private (closed) (410 members), and the only text visible as of today is exactly the same as shown in Smart Mule's first screenshot of March 27, 2019. Also quoted in extenso by educatedindian later the same day.

So I guess nothing has changed. "Business as usual"? — Or maybe not?:

That site is gone. Good thing we have quotes in the thread, telling us what it was about. Also, the site was preserved three times in 2008, here is the last one:

For the record (and for those interested in the development of things), I found two long discussions and comments from 2004 that are not mentioned here before:
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