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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 27, 2023, 01:25:11 am »
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Tweeted by Dr. Ahna Skop, Ph.D. @foodskop at 2:52 PM on 12/4/2017 (screenshot attached)

Dr. Ahna Skop, Ph.D.
@foodskop
Finally an article that nails it!!
@SenWarren is not Cherokee.
#actionslouderthanwords
https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-is-not-cherokee-c1ec6c91b696/
2:52 PM       12/4/17



Here's more information on the great article Ahna Skop shared:

11/30/2017: "Op-Ed: I am a Cherokee woman. Elizabeth Warren is not." - By Rebecca Nagel
Direct Link: https://archive.thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-is-not-cherokee-c1ec6c91b696/
Archive Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20230124204250/https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-is-not-cherokee-c1ec6c91b696/
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by educatedindian on January 25, 2023, 07:27:43 pm »
What I was asking is if she's truly Lebanese or Syrian as claimed. The older "scientific racism" claims that Arabs were caucasian/white. Some of my Syrian or Lebanese students could pass for white, sometimes brown hair, fair skin, or light eyes. But they certainly face discrimination as Arabs, demonization like the last president attacking them and barring them.
Some have been in the US many generations and can pass easier. People as old as me remember the comedian Marlo Thomas of That Girl. Skop, even if she is Arab in her ancestors, could pass since she likely would have no accent.
But I didn't see any Arab names in the genealogy. Skop is a Jewish or Polish name and Poland is near the Ukraine. But her mother's side has all English names except for Liken which is German.
So the Syrian, Lebanese, and even Greek claims of hers also seem to be made up or based on family claims or something we don't know about yet. While many minority scholarships and awards do include Arabs, if she made that up too, she got the awards based on dubious claims.
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 02:59:28 am »
William Thomas Smith
B: 27 Mar 1872 - Kentucky, USA
D: 17 Feb 1961 - Pike County, Kentucky, USA

1920 United States Federal Census
Name   W T Smith
Age   47
Birth Year   1873
Birthplace   Kentucky
Home in 1920   Lower Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky
Residence Date   1920
Race   White
Gender   Male
Relation to Head of House   Head
Marital Status   Married
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
W T Smith   47
Esther Smith   35
Monroe Smith   21
Evastor Smith   18
Maggie Smith   16
Marinda Smith   14
Linnie Pauley   14
Homer Smith   12
Emma Pauley   12
Finis Smith   10
Mary Pauley   9
Maxie Smith   6
Martha Pauley   6
Gladys Smith   4
Columbus Pauley  4

1910 United States Federal Census
Name   William T Smith
Age in 1910   38
Birth Date   1872
Birthplace   Kentucky
Home in 1910   Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky, USA
Race   White
Gender   Male
Relation to Head of House   Head
Marital Status   Married
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
William T Smith  38
Mary Smith   33

Joseph M Smith    12
Erastus Smith   10
Maggie M Smith  7
Marinda Smith   4
Homer Smith   2

1900 United States Federal Census
Name   William Smith
Age   29
Birth Date   Jul 1870
Birthplace   Kentucky, USA
Home in 1900   Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky
Race   White
Gender   Male
Relation to Head of House   Head
Marital Status   Married
Marriage Year   1897
Years Married   3
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky, USA
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky, USA

Household members
William Smith   29
Mary Smith   21

Erastus Smith   6
Joseph M Smith    2

1880 United States Federal Census
Name   William T. Smith
Age   8
Birth Date   Abt 1872
Birthplace   Kentucky
Home in 1880   Martin, Kentucky, USA
Race   White
Gender   Male
Relation to Head of House   Son
Marital Status   Single
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
Joseph Smith   30
Mary Ann Smith   30

William L. Smith*   8
Marinda Smith   5
James C. Smith   2

*I looked at the actual census and believe the "L" middle initial is a transcription error. After reviewing the census taker's handwriting and samples of how "T" was written in the 1800s, I believe the middle initial is correctly written as "T".

West Virginia, U.S., Marriages Index, 1785-1971
Name   Wm T Smith
Gender   Male
Birth Date   1873
Age   24
Spouse's Name   Mary E Hinkle
Spouse Gender   Female
Spouse Age   21
Marriage Date   8 Jan 1897
Marriage Place   Mingo, West Virginia

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name   William Thomas Smith
Gender   Male
Race   White
Birth Date   27 Mar 1872
Birth Place   Martin Co, Kentucky
Father   Joseph Smith
Mother   Mary M Canada


Kentucky, U.S., Death Index, 1911-2000
Name   William T Smith
Death Date   17 Feb 1961
Death Place   Pike
Age   88
Residence  Pike

Kentucky, U.S., Death Records, 1852-1965
Name   William Thomas Smith
Gender   Male
Race White
Death Age   88
Birth Date   27 Mar 1872
Birth Place   Pike County, Kentucky, USA
Death Date   17 Feb 1961
Death Place   Pikeville, Pike, Kentucky, USA
Father   Joey Smith
Mother   Mary Canada




Mary E Hinkle
B: 16 May 1878 - Kentucky, USA
D: 3 Mar 1918 - Pike County, Kentucky, USA

1910 United States Federal Census
Name   Mary Smith
Age in 1910   33
Birth Date   1877
Birthplace   Kentucky
Home in 1910   Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky, USA
Race   White
Gender   Female
Relation to Head of House   Wife
Marital Status   Married
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
William T Smith   38
Mary Smith   33

Joseph M Smith   12
Erastus Smith   10
Maggie M Smith   7
Marinda Smith   4
Homer Smith   2

1900 United States Federal Census
Name   Mary Smith
Age   21
Birth Date   May 1879
Birthplace   Kentucky, USA
Home in 1900   Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky
Race   White
Gender   Female
Relation to Head of House   Wife
Marital Status   Married
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky, USA
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky, USA

Household members
William Smith   29
Mary Smith   21

Erastus Smith   6
Joseph M Smith    2

West Virginia, U.S., Marriages Index, 1785-1971
Name   Mary E Hinkle
Gender   Female
Birth Date   1876
Age   21
Spouse's Name   Wm T Smith
Spouse Gender   Male
Spouse Age   24
Marriage Date   8 Jan 1897
Marriage Place   Mingo, West Virginia

Kentucky, U.S., Death Records, 1852-1965
Name   Mary Smith
Maiden Name   Hinkle
Gender   Female
Race   White
Death Age   39
Birth Date   16 May 1878
Birth Place   Pike, Kentucky, USA
Death Date   3 Mar 1918
Death Place   Pike, Kentucky, USA
Father                George Hinkle
Mother                Annie Ray




I have traced Ahna Skop's family back to 1870 with every family member listed as "white" on every record (except, possibly, on the death certificate of Ahna Skop's grandmother, Josephine Smith Prince). In my opinion, based on publicly available information, this research shows that Josephine Smith was incorrectly listed as "Cherokee" on her death certificate. You don't become Cherokee/Native American overnight. It follows each generation through records. Ahna Skop's family did not live anywhere near the Cherokee as they lived in Kentucky, Ohio, and West Virginia. Kentucky was shared hunting ground but the Cherokee never had permanent settlements in Kentucky. I will not be adding additional genealogy. I may add screenshots as of Ahna Skop's family tree.


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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 02:34:19 am »
Attachment: Marinda Mae Smith Blankenship Death Certificate - Ahna Skop mistakenly wrote that Marinda Mae Smith's death certificate said she was "mulato". It actually says "white" as does every other record that I was able to locate for Marinda Mae Smith AND her parents. Marinda Mae Smith was shot by her husband Thomas Blankenship in 1940 when her daughter, Josephine, was 11 years old. The attachment shows the death certificate was saved by Ahna Skop on 6/2/2021 with "mulato" incorrectly written multiple times by her in the notes.
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 02:25:20 am »
Marinda Mae Smith
B: 24 Jun 1904 - Kentucky, USA
D: 8 Jun 1940 – Adams County, Ohio, USA

Summary
Marinda Mae Smith (also known as Mae Smith) was born on June 24, 1904, in Pike County, Kentucky. Her parents were William T. Smith (1872-1961) and Mary E. Hinkle (1878-1918).

Ahna Skop mistakenly wrote that Marinda Mae Smith's death certificate said she was "mulato". It actually says "white" as does every other record that I was able to locate. Marinda Mae Smith was shot by her husband Thomas Blankenship in 1940 when her daughter, Josephine, was 11 years old. A newspaper article about the shooting references Marinda Mae Smith's sister, Gladys Smith, which was an additional way to verify the connection to the parents, William T. Smith and Mary E. Hinkle.

Newspaper Article: “Mind Blank After Seeing His Wife at Dance with Another Man, Defendant Testifies at West Union Murder Trial” The Cincinnati Enquirer, September 6, 1940 (Attached)

1940 United States Federal Census
Name   Mae Blankenship
Age   35
Estimated Birth Year   1905
Gender   Male*
Race   White
Birthplace   Kentucky
Marital Status   Married
Relation to Head of House   Head
Home in 1940   Oliver, Adams, Ohio
Inferred Residence in 1935   Adams, Ohio
Residence in 1935   Adams, Ohio
Household members
Mae Blankenship   35
Carl Smith   35
Marie Blankenship   18
Josephine Blankenship   11
Ruth Smith   10

1930 United States Federal Census
Name   Mae Smith
Birth Year   1906
Gender   Female
Race   White
Age in 1930   24
Birthplace   Kentucky
Marital Status   Widowed
Relation to Head of House   Cousin
Home in 1930   Williamson, Mingo, West Virginia, USA
Attended School   No
Able to Read and Write   Yes
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Able to Speak English   Yes
Household members
Mae Smith   24
Otis Ball   23
Emma Ball   20
Josephine Smith  1

1910 United States Federal Census
Name   Marinda Smith
Age in 1910   4
Birth Date   1906
Birthplace   Kentucky
Home in 1910   Big Creek, Pike, Kentucky, USA
Race   White
Gender   Female
Relation to Head of House   Daughter
Marital Status   Single
Father's Birthplace   Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
William T Smith   38
Mary Smith   33

Joseph M Smith    12
Erastus Smith   10
Maggie M Smith   7
Marinda Smith   4
Homer Smith   2

Ohio, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1774-1993
Name   Mae Smith
Gender   Female
Age   33
Birth Date   1905
Marriage Date   14 Aug 1938
Marriage Place   Adams, Ohio, USA
Father   William Smith
Mother   Mary Likens*
Spouse   Thomas Blankenship


*Marinda Mae Smith's mother's maiden name was Hinkle. I believe this was written unclearly by the person filling out the register or is a transcription error.

Ohio, U.S., Death Records, 1908-1932, 1938-2018
Name   Marinda Blankenship
Death Date   8 Jun 1940
Death Place   Adams, USA
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 02:10:04 am »
Second attempt to upload with a higher resolution image than in previous post...

Attachment: Josephine Smith Prince Death Certificate* (with proof it was uploaded to ancestry.com by Ahna Skop on 1/15/2023)

*I am having difficulty uploading attachments to NAFPS. I have resized the image and hope it uploads clearly.
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 02:05:50 am »
Attachment: Josephine Smith Prince Death Certificate* (with proof it was uploaded to ancestry.com by Ahna Skop on 1/15/2023)

*I am having difficulty uploading attachments to NAFPS. I have resized the image and hope it uploads clearly.
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 25, 2023, 12:44:04 am »
Genealogy

*Asterisked ancestors represent those that Ahna Skop claims have Native American ancestry

Parents
Kathleen M Prince*
B:DOB REMOVED-New York, USA
D: Living
Michael Skop
B: 14 Jun 1932 - Ohio, USA
D: 31 May 2009 - Fort Thomas, Campbell, Kentucky, USA

Maternal Grandparents
Josephine Smith*
B: 3 Oct 1927 - West Virginia, USA
D: 19 Sep 2015 - Escondido, San Diego, California, USA
William Augustine Prince
B: 25 Dec 1915 - New York, USA
D: 30 Apr 1997 - Escondido, San Diego, California, USA

Great Grandparents
Marinda Mae Smith*
B: 24 Jun 1904 - Kentucky, USA
D: 8 Jun 1940 – Adams County, Ohio, USA

Great-Great Grandparents
Mary E Hinkle
B: 16 May 1878 - Kentucky, USA
D: 3 Mar 1918 - Pike County, Kentucky, USA
William T Smith
B:27 Mar 1872 - Kentucky, USA
D: 17 Feb 1961 - Pike County, Kentucky, USA



Kathleen M Prince
B: DOB REMOVED - New York, USA
D: Living

1950 United States Federal Census
Name   Kathleen Prince
Age   3
Birth Date   1947
Gender   Female
Race   White
Birth Place   New York

Marital Status   Never Married (Single)
Relation to Head of House   Daughter
Residence Date   1950
Home in 1950   Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Household members
William Prince   33
Josephine Prince   24
Kathleen Prince   3

Joyce E Prince   2



Josephine Smith
B: 3 Oct 1927 - West Virginia, USA
D: 19 Sep 2015 - Escondido, San Diego, California, USA

Obituary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sandiegouniontribune/name/josephine-prince-obituary?id=16630760

1950 United States Federal Census
Name   Josephine Prince
Age   24
Birth Date   1926
Gender   Female
Race   White
Birth Place   West Virginia

Marital Status   Married
Relation to Head of House   Wife
Residence Date   1950
Home in 1950   Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Occupation Category   Keeping House
Household members
William Prince   33
Josephine Prince   24
Kathleen Prince     3

Joyce E Prince   2

1940 United States Federal Census
Name   Josephine Blankenship
Age   11
Estimated Birth Year   1929
Gender   Female
Race   White
Birthplace   West Virginia

Marital Status   Single
Relation to Head of House   Daughter
Home in 1940   Oliver, Adams, Ohio
Inferred Residence in 1935   Adams, Ohio
Residence in 1935   Adams, Ohio
Household members
Mae Blankenship  35
Carl Smith   35
Marie Blankenship   18
Josephine Blankenship   11
Ruth Smith   10

1930 United States Federal Census
Name   Josephine Smith
Birth Year   1929
Gender   Female
Race   White
Age in 1930   1
Birthplace   West Virginia
Marital Status   Single
Relation to Head of House   Cousin
Home in 1930   Williamson, Mingo, West Virginia, USA
Attended School   No
Father's Birthplace   Indiana
Mother's Birthplace   Kentucky

Household members
Mae Smith   24
Otis Ball   23
Emma Ball   20
Josephine Smith  1

Ahna Skop's maternal grandmother was Josephine Smith. I have been unable to identify Josephine Smith’s father from publicly available records. Josephine and her older sister, Marie, predominantly went by their mother’s maiden name, Smith. Ahna has the father listed as Frank J Raymond (born in Indiana) in her ancestry.com tree. Frank J Raymond was not Native American. The mother of Josephine Smith, Marinda Mae Smith, died tragically when Josephine was 11 years old. It is clear from Ahna Skop's statements and family tree that she claims Native American ancestry through the maternal line of her grandmother, Josephine Smith.

On 1/15/2023, Ahna uploaded Josephine Smith Prince’s death certificate. The death certificate lists her father’s first name as “unknown” and his last name as “Raymond.” The death certificate also lists Josephine Smith’s race as “Caucasian, Cherokee”. It is important to understand that the information on death certificates is only as accurate as the informant’s knowledge. The informant was Josephine Smith’s second husband, Donald Seivert. From Ahna Skop's aunt's comments in the Facebook post, it is clear that Ahna Skop's "genealogy" research had an impact on the family. Did it influence the information provided for the death certificate? There is also no way of verifying the  document since it was uploaded by Ahna Skop.

You don't just become "Cherokee" overnight. There would be more records. I will show that Josephine Smith's family were recorded as white back to 1870.

Attempted to attach to post: Death certificate uploaded to ancestry.com by Ahna Skop on 1/15/2023.
I have been unable to post with the attachment despite resizing the file due to NAFPS-related site issues. I will keep trying and upload on a separate post.

Article on Death Certificate Accuracy: https://lisalisson.com/5-types-genealogical-info-found-death-certificate/



edit - dob removed for Kathleen M Prince per request by advancedsmite
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Research Needed / Re: Siobhan Marks Our Grandmothers Strap Dress
« Last post by WINative on January 23, 2023, 10:11:12 pm »
It looks like Lac Courte Oreilles has some of the lowest blood quantum requirements of all Wisconsin Tribal Nations for enrollment. They operate under Lineal Descent, with no specific blood amount required, but must be able to trace to an ancestor from the 1940 census for LCO as listed below.
Ms. Siobhan Marks being 1/32 and far removed from an ancestor on the LCO tribal census roll and is therefore ineligible for enrollment at Lac Courte Oreilles, and labels herself a "Descendant."
So it would be illegal for her to manufacture, market, or sell her Grandmother's Strap Dresses or any others items, as Native American made under the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 posted link below also.
Under the Act, an Indian is defined as a member of any federally or officially State recognized tribe of the United States, or an individual certified as an Indian artisan by an Indian tribe.

https://www.doi.gov/iacb/act?fbclid=IwAR1-aqv0z4boKEKId-XakLzWGXf7T8X8iPM92D39ErgvqMYPLExX9huv5Wg

https://www.lcotribe.com/tribal-constitution

Article II: Membership

Section 1. The membership of the Lac Courte Oreilles Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin shall consist of the following persons:

All persons of Lac Courte Oreilles Chippewa Indian Blood whose names appeared on the official census roll of the Band as of January 1, 1940, or whose names were eligible for inclusion in such rolls, PROVIDED, such persons are citizens of the United States and are not enrolled with another tribe, band or group of Indians. This roll will be the basic membership roll.

Any lineal descendant of a member born prior to the effective date of this Constitution, provided, an application for enrollment is filed with the Governing Board and provided further, that such person is not enrolled with another tribe, band or group of Indians.

Any person gaining membership after the effective date of this Constitution through ordinances enacted under Section 2 of this Article.

 

Section 2. The Governing Board shall enact the ordinance subject to approval of the Secretary of the Interior stating the criteria for future membership and adoption of the new members. Such ordinance shall include the provision that to be eligible for membership persons must possess Lac Courte Oreilles Indian blood and must be a lineal descendant of an enrolled member. Any amendments to the ordinance shall require approval of the Secretary of the Interior.

Section 3. Any person who has been rejected for enrollment as a member of the Band shall have the right of appeal to the Secretary of the Interior, whose decision shall be final.

Section 4. The Governing Board shall have the power to enact ordinances governing loss of membership, such ordinance subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Interior. The ordinance shall include a provision for appeal of decisions to the Secretary of the Interior.
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Research Needed / Re: Ahna Skop, Professor
« Last post by advancedsmite on January 23, 2023, 03:07:12 am »
I haven't looked at the other branches of Ahna Skop's family tree, educatedindian. Your question has made me curious though. I will take a look. It is certainly upsetting to look at the poor quality of research contained in her public ancestry.com family tree and then see how far that incorrect work has spread into other ancestry.com users' family trees. 

Beyond falsely representing herself in diversity programs and advocacy, I believe Ahna Skop has taken opportunities and funding from minority and disadvantaged students through her false claims. See below.

Below are links to different versions of Ahna Skop's CV, preserved by the Wayback Machine, as it has been changed and updated over the years on her website. I've listed four fellowships/awards that I was able to easily ascertain were intended for minority recipients. Strangely, the largest of the fellowships, Advanced Opportunity Fellowship for Graduate Studies, was removed on the 8/28/2017 version of Ahna Skop's CV. While I am unable to say how much Ahna Skop received from 1994-1996, I was able to locate the award letter for 2021 recipients at the University of Wisconsin - Madison. In 2021, the Advanced Opportunity Fellowship for Graduate Students appears to cover all tuition, a stipend, and even a welcome payment for personal use. The Advanced Opportunity Fellowship "is provided by the State of Wisconsin and intended to provide financial support for minority and disadvantaged graduate students allowing them to focus attention on their graduate studies and to complete their degrees in a timely fashion." As someone who pays taxes in the State of Wisconsin, I'd be interested to know if any in-state applicants (minority OR disadvantaged) applied for and didn't receive the Advanced Opportunity Fellowship for Graduate Students from 1994-1996.


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Ahna Skop CV Links
File Date: 8/3/2009
Internet Archive Date: 4/1/2011
https://web.archive.org/web/20110401004328/skoplab.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/5/7/865764/skopcv8-3-2009.pdf

File Date: 2011
Internet Archive Date: 1/30/2011
https://web.archive.org/web/20120130212141/http://skoplab.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/5/7/865764/skopcv2011.pdf

File Date: April 2012
Internet Archive Date: 7/14/2012
https://web.archive.org/web/20120714051437/http://skoplab.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/5/7/865764/skopcvapril2012.pdf

File Date: 8/28/2017
Internet Archive Date: 3/8/2019
https://web.archive.org/web/20190308112256/http://skoplab.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/5/7/865764/skopcv8-28-2017.pdf

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Some of the Fellowships/Awards intended for minorities accepted by Ahna Skop...

Advanced Opportunity Fellowship for Graduate Studies (Minority Award Fellowship) (1994-1996)
Direct Link: https://kb.wisc.edu/ls/page.php?id=108211
Archive Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210419072106/https://kb.wisc.edu/ls/page.php?id=108211
Offer Letter 2021: https://kb.wisconsin.edu/images/group86/26477/LS_AOFOfferLetter.docx

Carl Storm Underrepresented Fellowship Awardee, Gordon Research Conference, Motile & Contractile Systems 2009
Direct Link: https://www.grc.org/carl-storm-underrepresented-minority-fellowship-information/
Archive Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20180223031239/https://www.grc.org/carl-storm-underrepresented-minority-fellowship-information/

ASCB Minority Poster Award, Honorable Mention, 1996
Direct Link: https://www.ascb.org/committees/minorities-affairs-committee-poster-awards/
Archive Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220305162445/https://www.ascb.org/web/20220305162445/https://www.ascb.org/committees/minorities-affairs-committee-poster-awards/

ASCB (American Society for Cell Biology) Minority Travel Award Recipient, 1996, 1999
Direct Link: https://www.ascb.org/grants-awards/travel-grants/
Archive Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220602180022/https://www.ascb.org/web/20220602180022/https://www.ascb.org/grants-awards/travel-grants/
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