Author Topic: Nathan Chasing Horse / Nathan Lee Chasing His Horse / Nathan Chases His Horse  (Read 52585 times)

Offline RedRightHand

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This thread has been a long time coming.

His website: http://www.pipehome.com/

Since 2010, it's been publicly discussed that in '07 Mr. Chasing Horse signed a Park Service permit so pretendian fraud Steve McCullough could hold his plastic sun dance on land where only Natives are allowed to do this. http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1245.msg23775#msg23775

For at least that long, word has been spreading in NDN country that Mr. Chasing Horse is at best a womanizer and at worst... that there are some serious sexual and financial abuses going on in his circle. There has also been talk of him keeping a "harem" of very young women and today we received some information that it's far worse than we knew. There are now direct, credible reports that he is demanding sex with followers, some of them underage or married, and that he is demanding that people in his circle tithe monthly amounts to support him, in some cases thousands or tens of thousands of dollars per person per year.

If you google "Nathan Chasing Horse" one of the suggested searches that comes up is "nathan chasing horse child support." By all accounts I've seen, including court cases in which he was convicted, he is also a deadbeat dad, with many children, by many different women, that he does not support.
- http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-pleads-guilty-to-infant-assault/article_cd815d45-3dd5-5d00-8d4c-da82ad3bc175.html
In 2005, "Nathan Chasing Horse, also known as Nathan Chasing His Horse, 29, South El Monte, Calif., was sentenced by U. S. District Judge Karen Schreier to two years probation for failure to pay legal child support obligations."
- http://www.scribd.com/doc/4965265/chasinghorse And more charges from 2008.

There are several blogs with published accounts of sexual assault allegations. These reports line up with what we are hearing from other sources who have not gone public: http://kinyewakanwinyan.blogspot.com/
- http://theworldissmallernowbuyerbeaware.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html
- http://wanonakinyewakan.blogspot.com/

Here are two videos that have been posted by a former sundance brother of his, who left Mr. Chasing Horse's fold, along with many others, after seeing what he and others describe as Chasing Horse's abuse of women. The videos are public, but you will probably have to be signed in to Facebook to view them.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152999337072250&pnref=story

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152999343322250&set=vb.510212249&type=2&
 
Apparently Mr. Chasing Horse, an actor who played the likable character "Smiles a Lot" in the movie "Dances with Wolves,"  is quite charismatic and those who know him say he is skilled at manipulating people. There are some horrific reports, and survivors are referring to his group, of over 100 people, as a cult. I am told he primarily recruits spiritually vulnerable people who have Indigenous blood, but who lack a cultural connection and are looking for Native ceremony and community.

Though he tells his followers, and the press, that he's a traditional Lakota holy man, he is not living in any Lakota community. He lived for a long time in California, and has more recently relocated to Las Vegas, Nevada. Nevada's sex laws are looser than surrounding states and not always enforced. Prostitution is legal, the age of consent is lower than it is in California (16, as opposed to 18), and the state has a bit of a reputation for not prosecuting polygamists/bigamists. In my opinion, what we are seeing here looks more like an abusive polygamous compound situation, with religion abused to frighten and keep people in line, rather than anything spiritual or NDN.

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http://lists.topica.com/lists/Indigenous_Awakening/read/message.html?sort=d&mid=803122880

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Brooke and her husband also produce music through their company. A young
Lakota man took them up on their offer to produce his music but because
he didn't have long dark hair or 'Indian features', they had him dye his
hair and eyebrows black, pin a hair piece to his head and wear beads,
leather and fringes. He said they told him this would help his music
sell. Well, his music sold, but with the exception of $50, he hasn't
received any of the royalties yet. Another Lakota man is considering a
law suit against them over his music. And the list goes on.     The
Schiavis have taken their charade to Europe, taking along others who
would sell out their birthright. The Lakota of South Dakota have sent
out a warning to them, yet they continue to exploit our people and
others from non-Indian cultures, who in their often sincere desire for
knowledge are callously taken in by the Schiavis and their ilk. The
Lakotas here know them and have advised them to come clean. One, young
Nathan Chasing Horse, is promoted as 'traditional', yet he has made
babies with young Indian girls here at home and abandoned them. A true
spiritual Lakota man, as Nathan portrays himself, would never create
life only to walk away from it, they said.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iN24LnqqXOMJ:photo.phyang.org/powwow39.htm+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Nathan Chasing Horse (age 34), a Lakota Sioux from South Dakota, sports a spectacular blue and white face-paint that matches the color of his regalia. He attended with his four wives -- "a tradition," he says.
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Epiphany

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He is a member of the Rosebud Lakota Sioux Nation, the son of Chief Joseph Chasing Horse and Winifred Chasing Horse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Lee_Chasing_His_Horse

Regarding his father:

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Rosebud traditional tribal members, Sharon Stead (daughter of the late medicine man Robert Stead), Rose Blue Thunder-Stenstrom, and elders Harriet Blue Thunder and Harry Blue Thunder said Chasing Horse is known to use spirituality to gain personal recognition.

Chasing Horse said he allows his information to go out on the Schiavi's web site but said he wouldn't comment to any rumors. He did say there are too many important issues at hand that need to be addressed, instead of focusing on negative, petty disputes.

Questions were raised on Chasing Horse's web page, which states, "Chief Joseph Chasing Horse," and claims he is a direct descendant of Crazy Horse.

In response, the title "chief," he said, comes from the media - even though he tells them he is only a traditional leader. He said he doesn't claim to be a chief, although he was honored with the "Sun Dance Chief" title at Wanblee, and Looking Horse tied an eagle feather in his hair, he said.

As for being a direct descendant of Crazy Horse, Chasing Horse said his family's lineage is private and will be kept that way.

Chasing Horse promotes his teachings as emissary of Looking Horse, and has a signed document from Looking Horse that gives him authority to act on behalf of the Sacred Pipe Carrier.

Looking Horse said he signed a letter, agreeing to work with Chasing Horse. However, after becoming suspicious of Chasing Horse and Schiavi's activities, he wrote him another letter that stated he was no longer associated with Chasing Horse, he said.

Several tribal members, educated in Lakota Star Knowledge, were surprised to see the star teachings on the site. Rosebud Sioux Tribal member Leland Little Dog said there were discrepancies within the information. He was not surprised to see Chasing Horse involved with the web site since Chasing Horse's exploitive activities are well known on the reservation, according to Little Dog.
http://www.thepeoplespaths.net/articles/1999articles/ICT9903EldersAttack.htm

Offline Smart Mule

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Financials for his organization http://pipehome.com/index.html attached.  Click on the link...you'll hear songs that I personally feel should not be for public consumption.

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His father on this fraud list:

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Chasing Horse, Joe - A "Plastic elder" who conducts inter-tribal sundances.

http://www.geocities.ws/dont_pay_to_pray/list.html

Offline RedRightHand

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Disturbing news about harmful behavior at sacred Bear Butte. The author of this article does not name Chasing Horse by name, but we are told this "cultural camp," complete with nuagers, aggressive non-Natives, and disturbing activities (disrespect and harm to women and Elders, among other things) is run by Nathan Chasing Horse.

Full article here: http://www.indianz.com/News/2014/014526.asp

And archived here on the site: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4547.0

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"I must say, I never experienced this kind of behavior and activity in those prior years at Bear Butte. For instance, they sent a little child to tell the Poor Thunder/Helper camp that the next time that pet dog enters their camp they were going to kill it. Consequently, a heated altercation occurred between a non-Indian from the “Cultural Camp” and the pet owner’s father.

"I learned that these people were controlling the parking lot by placing chairs or other objects in the space when someone left reserving it for members of their own group. At one point, the Poor Thunder/Helper assistants moved one of several “cultural camp” trailers so they could park a family member’s vehicle and haul food to the camp. The trailer was taking up space for two vehicles.

"Immediately, the culture camp members accused the Poor Thunder/Helper camp of trying to steal their wood and stationed guards at the parking lot late into the night. I listened to camp-member discussions about how this culture camp had been kicked out of another Lakota reservation because they had pushed or assaulted a spiritual leader there.

"Also, I read some very disturbing information via the internet regarding the leader of this “Spiritual Camp.” I am withholding the specifics of this information since I am not absolutely sure as to its authenticity, but it is unsettling. Poor Thunder/Helper camp members reported that this group made sarcastic remarks about women not wearing dresses and even harassed little children that were there."

"During the three days I was there at Mato Paha, this “cultural camp” was merely camped there as if waiting for us to move out. They were not going through the usual inipi or putting people on the hill. Their activities appeared to be anything but spiritual. Instead I felt a strong sense of animosity emanating from members of this “culture camp.”

"As I was leaving, the wife and I had to walk through a group of the culture campers sitting in the shaded area near the bridge. I could see that some of them were glaring at us as we went by. Jokingly, in Lakota, I told the Mrs. to move faster lest we get beat up here."

"The Poor Thunder/Helper camp’s spiritual leader, Marvin Helper, continually reminded everyone that Bear Butte is a place of prayer and to stay calm.

"Mr. Helper spoke of a Bear Butte Park Service meeting scheduled to occur later this year. He was attempting to learn of the exact date for the meeting when I left. His intent is to request that this group be moved to another time. Essentially, he does not want this new-age “culture camp” there when his group returns next year.

"Personally, I see this “cultural camp” as a young entrepreneur’s money-making venture. Reminds me of the biblical affair in which Jesus kicked vendors and money exchangers out of a temple because they were preventing others from worshipping. It was certainly difficult this year for the Poor Thunder/Helper camp to worship in tranquility as they had for 2.5 decades."


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STAY TUNED for BREAKING NEWS about this guy.
I came here for the popcorn and stayed for the slaying of pretenders.

Offline debbieredbear

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STAY TUNED for BREAKING NEWS about this guy.

No kidding! Wish I knew how to post a good pic of the proclamation posted on Facebook. It was posted by "Fort Peck Languages" with this:

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Just passed Tribal Education Committee unanimously: Banishment of Nathan Chasing Horse from the Fort Peck Assiniboine & Sioux Reservation! This banishment motion will now go to Full Tribal Executive Board on Monday July 13, 2015. If you want to attend, please go in the morning to see the voting take place! This is a great victory and will be covered in our newspaper and we hope other reservations can protect their women, children and land as we have today! Pidamaya/Pinamaya for all those who came and sent their prayers. We can take some time to thank our Ancestors for helping us today and pray for the final vote on Monday July 13, 2015. Please Share with your circles.....

Offline AClockworkWhite

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Did this work?
I came here for the popcorn and stayed for the slaying of pretenders.

Offline AClockworkWhite

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I came here for the popcorn and stayed for the slaying of pretenders.

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Thank you PretendsToBe1/8th for passing this on.

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Just passed Tribal Education Committee unanimously: Banishment of Nathan Chasing Horse from the Fort Peck Assiniboine & Sioux Reservation! This banishment motion will now go to Full Tribal Executive Board on Monday July 13, 2015. If you want to attend, please go in the morning to see the voting take place! This is a great victory and will be covered in our newspaper and we hope other reservations can protect their women, children and land as we have today! Pidamaya/Pinamaya for all those who came and sent their prayers. We can take some time to thank our Ancestors for helping us today and pray for the final vote on Monday July 13, 2015. Please Share with your circles.....


https://www.facebook.com/fortpeck.nd?pnref=story

Banishment discussion notice from July 6 by Fort Peck Tribes uploaded here, sign in to view

Epiphany

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Contact info for Criminal Investigator Trottier

FORT PECK DEPARTMENT OF LAW AND JUSTICE (BIA / TRIBAL)
501 Medicine Bear
Poplar, MT 59255
Phone: (406) 768-5565
Fax: (406) 768-5562

James Summers, Captain

Lewis Matthews, Criminal Investigator
Phone: (406) 768-5332
Fax: (406) 768-5143

Ken Trottier, Special Investigations Supervisor
Phone: (406) 768-5332
Fax: (406) 768-5143

http://www.mbcc.mt.gov/ledirectory/DisplayOrganization.aspx?orgID=614&rootID=3

Offline AClockworkWhite

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Thanks, Piff. I was so tired last night I had no success posting the pics. Anyways, HOPEFULLY this is the start of a trend among Tribes/Nations not only regarding this particular person (hard to call him a man) but also others who sell ceremony, intimidate tribal members and leaders, steal/embezzle, and the fakers/pretendians listed on the pages here on this site.
I came here for the popcorn and stayed for the slaying of pretenders.

Epiphany

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Thanks, Piff. I was so tired last night I had no success posting the pics. Anyways, HOPEFULLY this is the start of a trend among Tribes/Nations not only regarding this particular person (hard to call him a man) but also others who sell ceremony, intimidate tribal members and leaders, steal/embezzle, and the fakers/pretendians listed on the pages here on this site.

I've sure been there with fatigue and trying to wrassle things online. :) Sure would be wonderful to see a trend of banishing these frauds.




Offline Bears Ghost

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Today,the Fort Peck Journal printed a story on the banishment. I hope there are federal charges filed as well. Good riddance to him and his group!