Re: Kiesha Crowther - "Little Grandmother"

[LittleOldMan]

All this talk about a law suit got me wondering.  Has anyone ever heard of a successful or unsuccessful law suit pertaining to anything posted on the web?  If so what were the circumstances?   What would make it valid to be heard either under criminal law or tort?  "LittleOldMan"

[Saga]

Anyone checked the forum guidelines from TOMC forum? It is forbidden to use other languages than english now and to post on behalf of someone that has been banned, or you get banned yourself... So asking tricky questions is minimized...

And what comes to law suits... If someone has been attacked viciously without a reason with threats towards the life or something or lies spread that make the normal living impossible (like lies about pedophilia or something), I guess it is possible to draw lawsuit from that and be successful. I doubt it is possible to make a lawsuit based on what we have going on here tho, one stealing from other culture's sacred things and using "false identity" in a way and other trying to expose the lies. I'd be very surprised if it would be possible to get lawsuit from that not to mention win it. And if it would be possible, in my point of view, the tribes would be the party that has more chances to win it, this thing hurts them more than Kiesha and her money hoarding group.

Also, as a comment to some earlier response... I think too at times that Kiesha herself doesn't have such a big idea of what is going on and how much controversy there is, and the censore is partly for her as well. People answer the mail on her behalf, she hardly ever is herself in her personal fb account and most of the controversial things are deleted very fast etc. (Either that or she just doesn't care at all, which pretty much makes her look REALLY bad.)

[wserra]

All this talk about a law suit got me wondering.  Has anyone ever heard of a successful or unsuccessful law suit pertaining to anything posted on the web?

Assuming you mean in the U.S., sure.  There have been defamation suits, some tortious interference, some 10b-5s (17 C.F.R. § 240.10b-5, securities manipulation), and likely others.  To be successful, though, there generally is conduct offline as well.  All of these are civil actions.  I know of no criminal prosecutions based only on posts.  It would be hard to picture one in the U.S. under almost any circumstances, thanks to the First Amendment, other than child pornography.

BTW, there is a fair amount of public information about certain legal filings against a "Kiesha Crowther", in some of which folks here might well be interested.  The problem is that I don't know if it's the same person, and I'm not going to post stuff like this without being sure.  I have an address for this person, a middle name, and a husband's name.  I'm new here, and have only read the last couple of pages of this 58-page thread; I don't know if any of this has been posted.  If someone has it, and I can be sure we're talking of the same person, I'll be glad to fill the board in on the details.

[czech]

Dr. Carroll mentions in his article that Kiesha Crowther was born Kiesha Rae Kreps in Sanford, Colorado. From the "Juicy Living" video published on Youtube it follows that she has recently moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico.

[LittleOldMan]

Thanks!  "LOM"

[wserra]

Dr. Carroll mentions in his article that Kiesha Crowther was born Kiesha Rae Kreps in Sanford, Colorado.

That's the person.  Do the mods agree this is the "Kiesha Crowther" who is the subject of the thread?  Reason for the care: it's all public information, so there's nothing unlawful about publishing it, but I always want to be careful about invading an innocent's privacy.  "Little Grandmother", OTOH, has clearly made herself a public figure.

To what "article" do you refer?

[piya]

Goozih,

I have made contact with the Maori.

Waiting for word back

[Defend the Sacred]

To what "article" do you refer?

This one: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2871.msg26887#msg26887

[goozih]

That's Great Piya. I hope they are not fooled by Kiesha's fabrications. Just guessing but I think the full regalia (a boys shirt, bad face paint, Moccasins) comes back as soon as she leaves USA.

[Spandex~Atom]

[KrazyKraut]

This thread was accidentally removed, but restored from a backup dated Jan. 20th. All postings after this date are lost, alas.

[Defend the Sacred]

It was the hovering KieshAnna that broke the board.

OK, no it wasn't. Just a tech mishap.

[180IQ]

This has to be the longest forum thread EVER! Maybe too long for the forum software to handle without breaking??

[nemesis]

The engines cannae take it captain!

[AlaskaGrl]

Spock,

Is there a Computer in this sector capable of handling the Terra Quads of lies, story changing and woo woo videos this woman has generated?