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Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« on: June 13, 2010, 11:00:32 pm »
Anyone know anything about this guy? Is he legit or what?

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 12:40:05 am »
I went to college with Phil Lane jr. He wasn't a "chief" then. His dad, to my knowledge wasn't either. His dad was well respected. Phil worked at United Indians of All Tribes several times. Most recently in the last couple of years. He is a Bahai. I haven't seen him inproabably 30 years, though.

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 01:10:14 am »
oh yes, we know him here in Mi'kmaw Country, he was the first to cash in on the canadian govts' Aboriginal Healing Foundation Program for Survivors of Residential Schools which resulted in the first Survivors Gathering held in Fredericton, New Brunswick canada. Who knows how much he made for that conference. I attended as a "first generation survivor"; my Mother, who went to the notorious Shubenacadie  Resie skewl did not attend. I attended the conference the first day only. It was a mishmash of poorly constructed "talking circles" and other quasi flooky programs to provide healing. I instead spent the rest of the conference outside by the Sacred Fire, where there were Medicine People gathered and conducted Ceremonies and where the real work was being done. Now the Aboriginal Healing Foundation created by the Canadian Govt was the biggest sham in recent history. Its purpose was "healing" Neither I, or my Mother; are sick. We are not in need of Healing. My People are
not sick!
the hundreds of millions of dollars that the us and canadian govts have spent,
has all been part of an insidious and diabolical plan by the govts. you see as
long as the govt's tell us we are sick and in need of "healing" and then they
spend millions on it, they NEVER have to look at what policies, procedures, and
acts allowed this act of Genocide to occur to our People. (according to the
current U.N. policy, abduction of children, and the reprograming they went thru
is considered Genocide.) You see in this "Grand Deflection" they govts have
perpetrated, they NEVER have to look at themselves and CHANGE, they never have
to apologize...so if nothing changes....it can all happen again.... And sadly i would say  70 percent of the funds that exchanged hands went to the lawyers representing the lawsuits as my mother was granted 3000$ as reparation for her stay at the school, i say they should have been a thousand dollars for each day she spent in that unholy residential skewl.
Now more on phil. I never heard he was a chief. he is also associated with the notorious Four Worlds International Institute. Who produced the vile book called the "Sacred  Tree". a handbook for the for all new agers based on the fraudulent medicine wheel which severely  damaged a generation of Mi'kmaq and Maliseet and Passamaquoddy childeren, for more information on that see the posthttp://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1161.0 by Esteemed Maliseet Elder Andrea Bear Nicholas.
The book supposedly was created by  Elders from all over canada,  but i know most of them were Native-Bahai, which in itself is not troublesome, what was troublesome was this was the first book in canada to start the pan-indian spirituality, and i believe that Bahai beliefs were mixed in with the rest of the pan-indian  spirituality presented in this book. it was a cash cow that allowed them to create a cirriculum based on the book. Phil is a techie for hire as long as theres money involved.

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 01:55:43 am »
Unfortunately, I suspected this. I liked Phil when we were at school, but he was trying to get out from under his dad's shadow. And then he moved to Canada and I started hearing stuff.

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 03:09:28 pm »
....he is also associated with the notorious Four Worlds International Institute. Who produced the vile book called the "Sacred  Tree". a handbook for the for all new agers based on the fraudulent medicine wheel which severely  damaged a generation of Mi'kmaq and Maliseet and Passamaquoddy childeren, for more information on that see the posthttp://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1161.0 by Esteemed Maliseet Elder Andrea Bear Nicholas.
The book supposedly was created by  Elders from all over canada,  but i know most of them were Native-Bahai, which in itself is not troublesome, what was troublesome was this was the first book in canada to start the pan-indian spirituality, and i believe that Bahai beliefs were mixed in with the rest of the pan-indian  spirituality presented in this book. it was a cash cow that allowed them to create a cirriculum based on the book. Phil is a techie for hire as long as theres money involved.

For anyone whose not a longtime member, there's a thread that talked a bit about issues with the Bahais in Native communities.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=117.msg18197#msg18197

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 01:12:50 am »
Osiyo,
Someone posted something about "Chief" Phil Lane, Jr. on Facebook, and I questioned what this guy is chief of. So I did some research.

In this video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Dv2ccT6WY  they say:
"Elders share in the honor that Windstar has bestowed upon Phil Lane, Jr. And the fact that they have accorded him the title of Chief."

Who is Windstar?
The John Denver Windstar Board of Trustees, and their award, making this person part of the Windstar Earth Council...

In another video they call him "Hereditary Chief"

Hmmm. 

I mean it looks as if this guy is doing some good work, but isn't it kind of offensive to use the title Chief if it was bestowed by some singer's non-profit? (Don't get me wrong, I love John Denver, BUT....)


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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2012, 02:24:44 am »
I watched the Youtube Windstar video and it was wonderful to see Grandma Bow and Lala Phil Lane, Sr. hugging him on the stage.  They have both passed on now and I miss them.  I grew up going to their horse ranch in Walla Walla and riding horses with my Lala (he is my grandmother's cousin).  I know Phil Lane, Jr., I've known him since I was a child, he's my dad's cousin.  Our family were hereditary chiefs out at White Swan on the Yankton Sioux reservation.  We were also the last to see the White Buffalo Calf.  It is our Tiyospaye's work to carry on the vision of Mato Wi and Owl Man (Saswe Deloria).

I wasn't aware that he was a Bahai.  He practices traditional Nakota ceremonies.  His wife is Thai and is Buddhist.  He is the only one of his generation to step up and take on this role, so I have no problem with his title or his work.  Our band was called "the half-breed band" by the Americans and was lead by Chief Little White Swan.  We were mixed French and Indian because of the river, the Missouri.  I am half Navajo and half Yankton with some French as are many Yanktons.
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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2012, 03:32:40 pm »
Glad to hear from you. Now I see why he calls himself a Chief.  Phil jr has been a Bahai since the 1970's. I remember when he used to hold meetings at his house in Seattle, before he was married. I also remember his parents.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2015, 02:38:29 pm »
Many people seem to accept Phil Lane as a leader and knowledge keeper and increasingly his approach, which some call "new age", is being represented as "traditional".  If there is concern about him, it is not being voiced on the internet, and he is often pictured or featured alongside various Native leaders and healers.

Phil Lane is increasingly reported to be a "hereditary Chief" and there are numerous pictures of him wearing a war bonnet.  There is a large portrait of him in full headdress hanging in the Vancouver Aboriginal Friendship Center.

Here is one biography:

http://www.eaglequetzalcondor.com/staff-view/hereditary-chief-phil-lane-jr/

Some know of his work with the Four Worlds Institute and as one of the authors of "The Sacred Tree"  which seems rooted in Sun Bear's teachings but is now presented throughout Canada as "traditional" medicine wheel teachings.  On the Four Worlds website, a photo of Phil Lane meeting Evo Morales is described as the "eagle meeting the condor"

http://www.fwii.net/profiles/blogs/eagle-and-condor-meet-at-summit-of-the-americas-the-latin-america

His claim to have Crazy Horse's pipe is reported through his work with protecting the sacred and the Nawtsamaat Alliance:

http://www.protectthesacred.org/

Phil Lane has also been a very prominent part of the the International Indigenous Leadership Gathering where he will be speaking again this year, along with Lee Brown and Leroy Comes Last:

http://iilg.animikii.com/home

He has appeared and spoken with Arvol Looking Horse at World Peace and Prayer Day, the International Indigenous Leadership Gathering, and both were featured speakers at the "Indigenous Wisdom Summit":

http://2014.indigenouswisdomsummit.com/program/54





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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2015, 04:17:14 pm »
Just because he spoke to Arvol does not mean he was accepted, if you have been around these gathering every newage person try to get close to him, I will tell you i have many friend from the Yankton reservation who are not mix blood, and some good people down there, and no he is not accepted as a chief other wise we would of heard of him.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 05:15:34 pm »

Some know of his work with the Four Worlds Institute and as one of the authors of "The Sacred Tree"  which seems rooted in Sun Bear's teachings but is now presented throughout Canada as "traditional" medicine wheel teachings.

Warning for Maritime Natives from Andrea Bear Nicholas http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1161.msg6642#msg6642

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It has been repeatedly brought to my attention how completely our people have been fooled into believing that the medicine wheel is somehow part of our traditions, especially our spirituality. While I had long had concerns about its origins, what woke me to the hoax was an event that occurred several years ago at a national conference of Aboriginal women scholars. It occurred when I raised the concern and prefaced my remarks with an apology to those whose tradition it might have been. Immediately a chorus went up with virtually everyone in the room saying loudly that it was not their tradition! And these were Aboriginal women scholars from across Canada!

Subsequent to that meeting, we in the Native Studies Program at St. Thomas University began researching the history of the medicine wheel, and what we have found is appalling!

Indeed, it was not even known by our people in the Maritimes until the last couple of decades. It is not anywhere in the oral traditions of Maliseet, Mi'kmaq or Passamaquoddy people collected as recently as the 70s and 80s. So how in the world could it represent the knowledge of our elders, if none of them ever heard of it until recently? The answer is that it was a totally invented tradition that was foisted on our people only as recently as the 1970s.

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 10:12:51 pm »
Thanks Debbie! I do miss Lala and Grandma Bow. Even more now that I have lost even more relatives from that generation.

Update on Uncle Phil Lane, Jr. He has been very helpful to another of my dad's cousins, Faith Spotted Eagle in getting funding for work on the Yankton Sioux reservation. Particularly, for the resurgence of our ceremonies like the coming of age ceremony for girl that the Brave Heart Women's Society puts on every summer.

Also, he helped Auntie Faith get funding to hold the first meetings between the "Bold Nebraska" farmers and Dakota and Lakota people to fight the Keystone XL Pipeline. This conference held at our tribal casino (Ft. Randall) laid the groundwork for the "Cowboys and Indians" coalition that has successfully garnered support against the pipeline. Faith has gone to tribal councils and got them to turn down the project. Thanks to the funding support Uncle Phil was able to provide. Also working with them on this project is Dallas Goldtooth, his father was a founder of IEN.

I can understand the frustration of First Nations over the "evangelism" of Dakota/Lakota spiritual concepts across Indian Country. In fact, Dakotas find Lakota evangelism really annoying. I apologize for my family if my Uncle Phil's sharing of our stories felt overbearing in any way or disrespectful to the traditions of other nations.

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2015, 10:44:58 pm »
Also, regarding his Bahai status. Once again, he's never brought it up with family. Certainly, he has had many opportunities to try to convert us. We are mostly Episcopalian (Phil Lane, Sr. and my grandmother are the grandchildren of the Rev. PJ Deloria and first cousins to Vine Deloria, Jr.) or traditional. He graciously participates in family events whether in church or in ceremony. He does not discuss his Bahai connections at all with us. I don't really see them as very relevant to the work he does.

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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 06:05:22 pm »
He is very busy in the pay-to-pray area.  Only $297! (and you don't even need to leave your living room!)

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Re: Chief Phil Lane Jr.
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2015, 07:42:28 pm »
I am definitely being overtaken with laughter.
I came here for the popcorn and stayed for the slaying of pretenders.