Paul Peter Sahayda AKA Paul Ghosthorse

[Sandy S]

Concerning the "Ghosthorse" activities in Florida:

Ghost Horse and his crew "were doing acid and sending people out on their vision quests while they were tripping on LSD.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=44.0

Eventually the group located in Goldendale, Klickitat, WA. Many followers claim powerful experiences during summer ceremonies there. Were drugs in use? If so, did everyone consent?

In time, a Helper handed me a paper cup with a tea-brown liquid. I asked what it was. "Medicine," he said. "Drink it."

https://www.fusionmagazine.org/dance-looking-at-the-sun/

What is in this liquid given to ceremony participants?

[debbieredbear]

A friend of mine attended those sundances and she never mentioned drugs. She was strongly anti drugs. She passed away so I can't ask her.

[Sandy S]

Thank you Debbie, this is very good to know, thanks.

In general, do you happen to know if those sundances are again happening each summer in Goldendale? I've read that they did pause doing events during early pandemic.

[debbieredbear]

No, I haven't heard. For awhile, some of the people from Goldendale  were going to the Sundance at Wynoochee, but that's all I've heard. 

[Sandy S]

I'd forgotten about this thread on the Wynoochee sundances http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4714.0

Paul Sahayda continues to be active in North Carolina. I wonder if his adult son will eventually inherit the supposed spiritual lineage.

The Washington state nonprofit "Sungleska Oyate" continues. The land in Goldendale is still owned by the Buck and Vicki Ghosthorse Trust.

I hope that eventually survivors will go public with what they've experienced. Jan Engels Smith describes abuse but doesn't seem to understand that it was abuse http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5446.msg49648#msg49648