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QuoteHello Mr. Renaud,
"Two Turtles" is actually Martin Renaud, a French Canadian living in Australia. There are many Martin Renauds online, so let's be careful to not confuse him with others.

Renaud calls himself a performance artist. That means he does bondage and S&M on himself in public and calls it "ceremony." See his site at martinrenaud.com. I'm wondering if Renaud deserves his own thread.

Renaud has no Native ancestry mentioned anywhere online. The "uncle" claim is in the sense of "white guy happy an exploiter is telling me what I want to hear."

Mr. Renaud, nothing Rosser does or says is remotely authentic. Nearly all of it is offensive, stereotypical, and some of it is downright dangerous to the health of anyone involved. Rosser may claim to have ancestry, but any Native in the US can spot the ludicrous flaws so quickly.

Rosser may not make much profit from doing fake and dangerous versions of ceremony. His reward is to feel important and loved by naïve white Australians for telling them what they wish to hear. I'd guess many of them don't share such positive views of Aboriginal people. Hearing an alleged American Indian tell them warm fuzzy lies helps them resolve their cognitive dissonance.

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QuoteGenre
Webseries Documentary
Short Description
Producer of "A Journey On Two Turtles - Wisdom of Native American Elders" a 6-parts webseries about the Red Road spiritual path.
Starring
Uncle Michael "Walks the Wind",
Gerardo Arrietta "Mariman",
Christian Bickel,
Gilberto Nova,
Martin Renaud,
Directed By
Martin Renaud
Produced By
Martin Renaud

https://www.facebook.com/twoturtlesproductions/info?tab=page_info

Two Turtles Productions videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUA-J5RngmN9DaR46VXzhpQ/videos

QuotePublished on Jul 19, 2015
Grandfather Guy "Bear Heart" Bénard shares teachings of the Seven Fires and the Perfume of Birth place. Filmed in Lac-à-la-Perdrix, Val-des-Monts, Québec, Canada in June 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr4RAtY7ZSc

QuotePublished on Jun 5, 2015
Interview with Uncle Walks The Wind, Navajo Elder during Vision Quest April 2015, Mount Yengo, NSW, Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6xe-lctYg

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QuoteMartin Renaud
August 20 at 1:13pm
I'm in Mexico City and heading to Guadalajara for another Native American Church ceremony!

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Two Turtles Productions
August 10 at 6:25pm · Edited ·
I've had the honour to meet the talented fan artist and medicine man Pat Scott and attend ceremonies with him near White Mesa, AZ

QuoteTwo Turtles Productions
July 31 at 6:28pm ·
We came to South Dakota to pray...

QuoteTwo Turtles Productions
July 5 ·
I'm off to the Unity Sundance in Ottawa. You are all in my prayers. Stay tuned for the 1st episode of "A Journey On Two Turtles" available on YouTube on July 18th.

QuoteTwo Turtles Productions
June 22 ·
I spent a truly amazing day with my Elder Guy "Bear Heart" in Ottawa and had the privilege to capture his words on camera. This one is for Father's Day for the fathers in becoming...

Martin Renaud's public performance "Outward Bound". He smudges himself, then settles into a large space outlined with rope, amidst sunbathers and other folks out enjoying the day. His video includes close ups of various people, did he get their permission for this?

He tears colored strips of fabric and then ties the strips to the rope circle. I imagine he thinks the strips are prayer ties. He wraps himself in the rope, then lays down and rolls himself further in the rope. Then he lowers himself into the water, while still wrapped up in rope. Chest to feet, fully wrapped in rope, in water. He rolls around for a bit then unwraps.

Back on earth, he then wraps himself with red rope. Then white.  He wraps, including his face and head, sits for awhile, then unwraps.







http://martinrenaud.com/

He mentions on his FB page about meeting fan maker and "medicine man" Pat Scott https://www.facebook.com/pat.scott.1422409?fref=ts&ref=br_tf
yet another advertiser/fame-seeker totally contradicting real medicine ways. This is the type of person who makes people sick with their "healing" ways. If they're advertising and/or have a website, they're a bullshitter.

His FB page is chock full of fakers, exploiters, and pretendians of all shapes and sizes. This guy could be a case study in international fraud enablement.

A bit more detail here (apologies if some of these links have already been posted).

Renaud is one of those white dudes who purchases fake ceremonies from the exploiters he came here to defend. He's one of those kinky "performance artists" who does bondage stuff and "erotic performance", tarted up with stolen bits of NDN ceremonies, then sells it to other non-Natives. Disgusting.

That offensive video opens with him smudging himself in front of an audience, as performance. Then making pretend prayer ties as performance. Then he... wears the prayer ties. He rolls around on the ground getting into his bondage deal, wrapped in the fake prayer ties. Eventually he leaves them all in a filthy heap on the beach, surrounded by (ignored by) more white people in swimsuits. Oh, need I mention, everyone in his video is white.

https://www.facebook.com/MartinRenaudArt

https://www.facebook.com/MartinRenaudArt/posts/737452279625560

Renaud is the producer of this offensive film about ceremony-sellers, so he has a financial stake in promoting people like Mikey Wind and, if he's participating in this, Roy Barnes: http://metroscreen.org.au/a-journey-on-two-turtles-fundraising-event/

Fraud. Big, ole, stealing, exploiting fraud.

Quote from: RedRightHand on August 26, 2015, 05:26:04 PM
That offensive video opens with him smudging himself in front of an audience, as performance. Then making pretend prayer ties as performance. Then he... wears the prayer ties. He rolls around on the ground getting into his bondage deal, wrapped in the fake prayer ties. Eventually he leaves them all in a filthy heap on the beach, surrounded by (ignored by) more white people in swimsuits. Oh, need I mention, everyone in his video is white.

I think the one redeeming quality this creep has going for him is that almost no one sees (or even pays attention to) his "art" performances. But the film could easily become a how-to for fraudsters and pretendians/defendians, and enablers.

Quote from: RedRightHand on August 26, 2015, 05:26:04 PM
Fraud. Big, ole, stealing, exploiting fraud.

I heartily agree with this assessment.

QuoteJohn Scott
what's going on here? prayer ties?
October 29, 2014 at 3:55am

Martin Renaud
Prayers for all my relatives in the colours of the 7 directions while sitting in a sacred circle, or what my black brother calls my Dreaming. Winding up and wearing these prayers and unravelling them into the water... wink emoticon

https://www.facebook.com/MartinRenaudArt

QuoteMartin Renaud
@2turtlesprod
Through Two Turtles Productions I'm sharing Native American teachings with the YouTube webseries A Journey On Two Turtles. Metakuye Oyasin (all my relations)!

https://twitter.com/2turtlesprod

Anyone know this man? He keeps his shades and hat on for the entire video.

Quote
Episode 1 - Bear Heart
Two Turtles Productions
Grandfather Guy "Bear Heart" Bénard shares teachings of the Seven Fires and the Perfume of Birth place. Filmed in Lac-à-la-Perdrix, Val-des-Monts, Québec, Canada in June 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr4RAtY7ZSc&feature=youtu.be&a

I searched for him earlier- literally nothing came up in any permutation of that name.

Renaud posted on his Two Turtles Productions FB that Guy Bénard was a filmmaker for over 20 years. So this may be him here:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0126856/

Wow you guys miss nothing. I ran right past that, I guess.

Quote from: AClockworkWhite on August 27, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
Wow you guys miss nothing. I ran right past that, I guess.

I ran right past it the first couple times I read it too. I tend to initially skim material. I had googled all sorts of search combos also with no useful results. Catching the filmmaker piece this time might eventually help. But we are still left with a big Who is this guy? Who is Renaud, who are the people he follows and promotes?

Contained in that Who? is questions on their behavior. That Renaud video of his public actions is appalling.