NAFPS Forum

http://cherokeeeldersociety.org/fraud-index.html

[note: they are discussing all the Cherokee tribes that are claimed]

Fraud Index Number

Each Nation will be assigned a Fraud Index Number. The Fraud Index Number is calculated by totaling the points assigned to each in a series of fraudulent acts. The Index Number ranges from -650- which is the worst ranking to -O- which is the best ranking.

Organization

    1)- Intertribal - Cherokee are not Intertribal.  As the old saying goes

    Cherokees were: "Always conquerors never conquered."

    (50 points)

 

Traditions

    2)- Plastic Elders - Cherokee Elders receive their knowledge first

    hand through through oral tradition over a great many years not

    from books instantly. (35 points)

 

    3)- Combines Mormon myth/American Nativism with Cherokee

    traditions especially that of the Myth of the White Jewish  

    Cherokee/White Cherokee. (20 points)

 

    4)- Have a "Beloved Woman" - This tradition is not Cherokee but was

    adapted from another nation in one instance by Cherokee living

    in a border region after Nancy Ward helped to warn the nation of

    an impending attack. Nancy Ward was the first and last "Beloved

    Woman" of the Cherokee Nation. (10 points)

 

    5)- There are only seven Cherokee Clans: A-ni-gi-lo-hi (Long Hair,

    sometimes called the Twister, Wind or Strangers); A-ni-sa-ho-ni

    (Blue; also Panther or Wildcat 0r Bear); A-ni-wa-ya (Wolf);

    A-ni-go-te-ge-wi (Wild Potato or Savannah); A-ni-a-wi (Deer);

    A-ni-tsi-s-qua (Bird); A-ni-wo-di (Paint,  Red Paint or War

    Paint).  Any variation is not traditional. (45 points)

 

    6)- Further the Myth of the Peaceful Cherokee (10 points).

 

    7)- Plastic Names - the Cherokee have never collectively been to

    Hollywood. We never used Hollywood Indian names. (10 points)

 

    8)- Buffalo Traditions - The Cherokee People never had buffalo  

    traditions. Perhaps its because there were no great herds of

    buffalo crashing through the cliffs and dense woods in the Smokey

    Mountains. (10 points)

 

    9)- Polygamy - Cherokee Traditions do not include traditions of

    Polygamy. John Ross' father-in-law said anyone with more than

    one wife should be shot hung and quartered, or something to that

    effect. (10 points)

 

  10)- Sacrificing the integrity of Traditional Cherokee medicine by allowing

  non-Cherokee or  non-family members into a sweat. (25 points)

 

  11)- Using sweats for purposes of entertainment rather than for health reasons.

  (25 points)

 

  12)- Vacation Indians - Cherokee nations, tribes, bands or clans do not

   exist in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, New

   Mexico, California, Alaska, Hawaii, or Porte Rico unless a very

   large Cherokee Family went on vacation. (50 points)  

 

Spirituality

  13)- Plastic Shamans - If the spiritual leader is called the Shaman

   there is a problem since Cherokee are not from Siberia and

   Shamans are. (5 points)

 

  14)- Cherokee Spiritual Leaders do not lead in ceremonies taken from

   books especially Mooney's Sacred Formulas of the Cherokee.  

   (25 points)

 

  15)- Non-Cherokees in the Circle - Cherokee Spiritual leaders do not

  allow it. (25 points)

 

  16)- Non-Cherokees praying in the Circle - Cherokee Spiritual leaders

   do not allow it. (25 points)

 

  17)- Cherokee Spiritual leaders do not allow Felons convicted under

   the Right of Blood to enter the Circle or pray in the Circle. This is  

   because Felons according to the Right of Blood would have been

   killed and are thus dead to the Cherokee People. (25 points)

 

  18)- Mixes Non-Cherokee "American Indian" beliefs with Cherokee  

   Spirituality especially sweats, sundances, ghostdances, potlatches and longhouse  

   traditions .  (50 points)

 

  19)- Mixes Mormon myth with Cherokee Spirituality.  (25 points)

    

  20)- Mixes Judaism with Cherokee Spirituality. (25 points)

 

Leadership

  21)- Leader is the "traditional Cherokee emperor." (50 points)

 

  22)- Leader is a "Hereditary Chief" - Cherokees traditionally elected

  leaders every 52 moons. (25 points)

 

  23)- Council of Elders acts as the Council. - Cherokee Elders provide

  advice and teach the people their traditions. They do not rule the

  Nation. (25 points)

 
  24)- Any association with known non-Cherokee Frauds. (45 points)

 

Vance,

Many thanks to you for posting this site.

Joe

Joe I liked this one --

9)- Polygamy - Cherokee Traditions do not include traditions of Polygamy. John Ross' father-in-law said anyone with more than one wife should be shot hung and quartered, or something to that  
 
    effect. (10 points)
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Notice it was John Rosses "father-in-law" that said this -- maybe this was another way of him telling John -- "You had better treat my daughter right!"
 
The father of any teen-age daughter can understand this.

I attempted to review the link listed. It states the account is suspended? Does anyone have a current link?

It has not been active for a while and if I remember, they were christian in their point of view. Also, never saw any names and who they were.

The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma was contacted and asked if they supported this group or knew about it.  They sent out their usual statement on groups on websites that they were not aware of this website and did not approve of sanction it.

Cherokee Elders would not be posting on a website like this anyhow.