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Has anyone checked with the Ostego Park in Ohio, lately, this is still listed on her site under her calendar.  See if this person's name comes up at the park.
Alchemy Productions Audrey Stone > > 419-478-6143 or email audreystone@sbcglobal.net
When we spoke with her (politely) she said it was moved to Whitehouse and they were trying to get it moved back to the Park.  It is shown on Sunday only at the Park though.

Mother Day Maumee River Water Blessing Ceremony
WhenSun, May 11, 2pm – 5pmWhereOstego Park, Stone Hall 20000 River Rd. Bowling Green, OH St. Rt. 65 & 235DescriptionMother Day Maumee River Water Blessing Ceremony > > Location: Ostego Park, Stone Hall > > 20000 River Rd. Bowling Green, OH St. Rt. 65 & 235 > > Cost $33 2pm-5pm. > > Children under 16 Free > > Host Sponsor: Alchemy Productions Audrey Stone > > 419-478-6143 or email audreystone@sbcglobal.net

It seems this venue is going ahead from what we can gather...we did not have much success with Ms. Stone on the phone...and even though many spoke to her in a respectful good way...she became highly verbal on the phone and hung up.

But...there will be peaceful protests and media coverage outside any venues that go forward.

Quote from: Tsisqua on April 16, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/mar/02/mother-drum-keeps-universal-heartbeat/

Half-Wolf: Seems White Eagle is advertizing for her April 19th 'performance'...but there is an email option at the bottom of the page where many are now contacting.

Also...we've discovered this morning that White Eagle and Jacque Zaleski are in no way linked....so Im glad thats out of the way.

Someone has posted on a couple of the YouTube Grandmother Drum videos that Holzwarth and Zaleski are the same person. Zaleski's name is not given, but the information pertains to her not Holzwarth. Don't know who this is or if the comment can be deleted. Whoever made this comment should probably try to get rid of it. We don't want Holzwarth accusing us of slander or libel. It weakens our argument.

QuoteVoicesHeard (15 hours ago)
Rachel Holzworth aka Suraj Holzwarth aka White Eagle Medicine Woman was once the secretary for WRCF - a wiccan orgnization. She stole money from them and opened Church of the Iron oak in Palm Bay florida, another wiccan church. Her husbands name then was Roger Coleman
The City of Palm Bay asked her to prove she was a church she sued them. It went all the way to the US supreme court. The City of Palm Bay won and she had to pay their legal fees $30,000.

It seems this information was circulated last night as 'FACT' by some... and not as it was...'something that was being looked into'.

I also hope they can remove their posting....I brought the issue here as I myself was not convinced the two were the same and needed to get other peoples take on the matter....and I agree with you 100%...slander or libel charges or allegations...will not help in any shape or form.

Added note:

Ive just circulated the following...(Im almost sure the poster of this is from MySpace)

QuoteIf any reader here posted the following:

VoicesHeard (15 hours ago)
Rachel Holzworth aka Suraj Holzwarth aka White Eagle Medicine Woman was once the secretary for WRCF - a wiccan orgnization. She stole money from them and opened Church of the Iron oak in Palm Bay florida, another wiccan church.
Her husbands name then was Roger Coleman
The City of Palm Bay asked her to prove she was a church she sued them. It went all the way to the US supreme court. The City of Palm Bay won and she had to pay their legal fees $30,000.


Could you please see if there is a way to retract the comment? As We are 100% certain Suraj and Zaleski are NOT the same person...it may hinder all our efforts if we were facing a slader/libel charge due to comments made.


With much respect,

Tsissy

Please Circulate.

Lets hope it can be retracted.

I have a question now.  I have been looking at several sites where she previously had information listed and now it is gone from those sites, where does this put us?

Since the info she is removing has already been documented....and much of it is still out there also...(Could she BE on any more sites??)...I dont think this will hinder our efforts in any way...any government/tribal body has been provided with links...BEFORE her changes were made...personally I think this just shows her in a very bad light...but that's just my opinion.

A good next move would probably to contact PayPal and let them know about her violations of their user policy (highlighted pertinent info in Bold):

From their user agreement:
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If anything with enough inquiry her account can get suspended while they investigate. 

I was also wondering if anyone would be interested in surrendering $25.00 to test and see if the "smudge feathers" she's selling are actually Eagle feathers as the picture on her site would indicate.

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Quote from: Tsisqua on April 16, 2008, 03:07:25 PM
It seems this venue is going ahead from what we can gather...we did not have much success with Ms. Stone on the phone...and even though many spoke to her in a respectful good way...she became highly verbal on the phone and hung up.

But...there will be peaceful protests and media coverage outside any venues that go forward.

Called The Center for Conscious Living this morning and spoke with Connie. She was under the impression that the event was still taking place at Otsego Park. In fact, she'd received an e-mail from Audrey Stone within the past couple days stating this. She was planning to put the announcement in their church bulletin. I told her that the Park website stated that the event was cancelled. She suggested that I call Audrey Stone.

Decided to call Otsego Park to make sure. Spoke with Mr Munger. He confirmed that the event will not take place at Otsego Park. The Park pulled their sponsorship a while ago. He also confirmed that after they cancelled Holzwarth's reservation, the facility had been reserved under a private individual's name. When he'd discovered this, he cancelled that reservation. I thanked him.

Just got off the phone with Audrey Stone. She confirmed that the event will not take place at Otsego Park. I told her I'd heard that it might be held at the Rocky Ridge Community Center; but when I called and talked to Connie, I'd been told it wasn't going to be there. Stone confirmed that it wasn't going to take place at Rocky Ridge and wanted to know where I'd heard that. I told her I couldn't remember who told me. She said that the Grandmother Drum is not coming to Ohio this year and it's doubtful for next year. Aghast, I asked "why?" She said she really didn't want to get into it, but there are "some internal problems".

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That's what I thought, nighthawk. Don't know anyone who uses Iroquois, not even when speaking of the Confederacy. Haudenosaunee, Haude, Six Nations, 6Nay, but never Iroquois. That ranks right up there with the Cherokee Metis and Seneca Metis.

I actually just got into that with someone last weekend and had to explain the Iroquois is a confederacy made up of 6 different nations, the Seneca, the Mohawk, the Cayuga, the Onondaga, the Oneida and the Tuscorora.  These are the people whose confederacy  was used as the model for the original US democracy.  Now their nations are used by a scam artist and her entourage.

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Quote from: Tsisqua on April 16, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Half-Wolf: Seems White Eagle is advertizing for her April 19th 'performance'...but there is an email option at the bottom of the page where many are now contacting.

What April 19th performance?

It is on her website as a private function at Walter Reed Memorial Hospital on APril 20th now actually, check it out pn her calendar.
www.whirlingrainbow.com/schedule.htm