Author Topic: Test Topic - FAQ - Kiesha Crowther AKA Little Grandmother  (Read 114121 times)

Offline Spandex~Atom

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Letters to and from Little Grandmother-(Admin)
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 06:06:59 pm »
Letters from Little Grandmother-(Admin)

From youtube:

Little Grandmother
Dear YouTube user,

It would be well if you voluntarily removed your video about Little Grandmother: "Tribal Statement on Kiesha Crowther aka 'Little Grandmother'"..............................

I would rather LG come clean but ....

Copyright Office........................So at this point I'll review the exist vids checking also for language.  BUT, per the above ruling, SAMy, and anyone on youtube, has the right to use video clips to hoot and hollar so long as we are complaning...............

Yesterday I wrote an email to her org. (nicely & politely) asking them to cease & desist the sale of Sacred ways and/or items...the following is what I sent and their reply I found this morning--OH and I'm being threatened with a lawsuit for LIBEL (odd since I used HER OWN WORDS & CLAIMS--hmmm is repeating someone's own words libelous? NO!!).............. avoid misrepresenting any Native American peoples or traditions, Kiesha will continue her speaking in public and conducting the healing ceremonies she is asked to for the benefit of Mother Earth—without using Native American regalia, Native American sacred implements or specific rituals........

Letter I sent to the Prophecy Organizers last night.

Greetings  XXXXXXXX/

I am writing you regarding your upcoming "The Prophets Conference"  
and Kiesha Crowthers appearance.
Kiesha does not speak for, nor represent Indigenous peoples...........

It seems you sent an e-mail to the prophets conference website and received an e-mail from Crowther's PR flack/booking agent........

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Kiesha, the New Age Profit
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 06:09:22 pm »
Kiesha,  the New Age Profit

Where are the tens of thousands of dollars she's making going? Those three nights alone made over 60 grand.

Show your expenses. Be open and honest about where the money's going.

Name any charities and causes the money is given to (if any.)

No vague nonsense about "helping spread her message" or "helping Natives" or "helping peace." Show everyone in detail, just what, exactly.

Until then, you just look like a shameless hustler.

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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 06:10:55 pm »

"Daughter of Sacred Mother Earth, Sister to all Her children and friend to all things in Nature. I am the Great I Am... and so are you!"

These handlers and this network is darkness disguised as light.  Fragmenting all those who are actually seeking wholeness.......

....... she is THE ONE who is put in place for all to look up to as the channel of wisdom and ancient teachings for ALL PEOPLE OF THIS AGE to turn to for these truths!.......
.....Where is the proof?

Well, since NOONE (not even The Dalai Lama) would make tha claim about being THE communicator of earth wisdom for the world, I guess the position is free.......

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Wild Inaccuracies and parroting of 'New-Age' topics
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 06:12:39 pm »
 Wild Inaccuracies and parroting of 'New-Age' topics

"Giza and Tikal...It will be proven without a shadow of a doubt, with science itself that these cities match each other down to the most minute detail......

"Places in Greece will be found with ancient computers."
She is most likely referring to the Antikythera mechanism. It's an ancient mechanical computer designed to calculate astronomical positions and it has been found in 1900.......

Ethiopia contains something almost more valuable than anything that is on this planet, and I have seen this with my own eyes........... Many religions believe it to be....something callled The Ark of the Covenant......."
Interesting how she uses Graham Hancock's story in 'The Sign and The Seal' without paying any tribute to him,................

Kiesha Crowther claims:
"There is a place called Dendera, that was not built only by human hands."
"Modern lightbulbs are found there, that still work today, that are over 17,000 years old."

"There is something else that many of us have discussed and something we have seen with our own eyes. I will do my best to explain what it is I saw. There is a large tower made of pipe and wire, and on top of this which looks like a very tall thin pyramid, on top of it sits a large ball. It is next to very cold dark waters. It's not a lake, it's more like an ocean. And this machine is man-made. And it Has been made!. And it is very operational, functional, and............
She says that NASA has sent out a message about the coding of our DNA, the structure of Mother Earth and our bodies - and NASA received a message back with the DNA of the starpeople and the structure of their planet................
"She says that in the beginning of October, China and New York had to close down their airports due to too many spaceships (discs) in the sky."

As for UFO's shutting down airports:
Knowing this type of stuff doesn't give you credibility...

"Do you know now that we use less than a third of our brains, very soon we will be gifted all of that"

Not true. Every cell in our brains has a purpose. About 10% of our brains is active at any given time, but the focus is constantly shifting......

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Ex-believers and members share why they turned away
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 06:14:36 pm »
Ex-believers and members share why they turned away

To be totally honest here, the tribe of many colors thing might not seem dangerous, ............the messenger looked very sincere and her message comforted me at first......

I was in denial a long time with the whole business, mostly with how much it did affect me after I finally was able to let myself think ............

.....I have made my own research around the subjects she now uses as parts of her speeches, ALL of the info has been out there to tap into for a while, some of it for a loooooong time.............

.......I was wondering if I would be able to find something negative as I felt confused after watching one of her videos that are now flooding the Czech Republic, too. ..........
.......I too was deeply touched by some of the (unrevelatory) truths, such as the need for being respectful to Mother Earth and animals. On the other hand, I found it disturbing that such obvious things moved me to tears, while others sounded, well, strange, to say the least........

....................At first i didn't know anything about Native American spirituality, i didn't think Crowther's claims of tribal recognition could be lies,...................e i started noticing more and more inconsistencies, inaccurate information.........................finally, when she was asked in a radio interview what would happen in 2012 according to her, she said: "i say this with every bit of my knowing and every fiber of my being, people who are not living in the heart will not be able to cope with the new energies, to fully enlightened beings, death does not look like death". In other words, only her elite society of a spiritual master race, and perhaps some indigenous tribes and other New Agers, survive. Everyone else dies. That's when the house of cards collapsed for me......................

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Dangers of simply "Changing the Channel"
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2010, 06:16:19 pm »
Dangers of simply "Changing the Channel"

...And about ignoring the negative completely... what will you really learn then anyway? It means ignoring the constructive critic, the uncomfortable feeling some people/places might make you feel that could be taken as a warning sign.......

...For many years I ran a charity foundation to help poor Native children and elders and while doing so I got in contact with many New Age people being fascinated by Native Americans.....

...sit at home sending good energies. :) Which made the "being the love" so convenient...

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A puzzling attitude towards truth by Kiesha's followers
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2010, 06:18:14 pm »
A puzzling attitude towards truth by Kiesha's followers

- Her history does not matter, that's just her story
- You must not be acting from your heart if you question her
- You need to use the eyes of love

......As they are able to tune into the higher light and vibrations of Kieshas messages anything related to the physical does not matter.  Not her story, not whether what she said about her past is 'true', just her message and how it makes them feel in their hearts.....

It saddens me that these people have already been so hypnotized and mesmerized by Kiesha that they are almost beyond contact.
I have recently tried to reason with two of my Swedish friends, just explaining the feeling of hurt and anger that Kiesha´s actions cause Native Americans, especially the Salish. What came out of it was that they were pretty irritated that the complaints from Ndn:s disturbed their loving, friendly (not friendly to Ndn:s, though) world.......

....If you're not "in the heart" you're not one of us, you're bad, unenlightened, an outsider. I think a similar phrase was used in the "cult" video we've probably all seen:
Seems every dodgy organisation needs a nice little soundbite such as this.

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Controlling and malicious behaviour of 'Veetkam W. Rentsch'
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2010, 06:20:05 pm »
Controlling and malicious behaviour of 'Veetkam W. Rentsch'
- Tribe of Many Colors site Administrator

I expected something like this to happen. He has actually published private messages before, sent to him by someone who used to coordinate all the translators...................

I've already received a message from someone else on those forums who says he really doesn't agree with what Veetkam is doing. .....................

I understand that you are not intimidated by the great and powerful Admin Veetkam.  But if he is going to be posting private information on individuals there, people need to pull their head out of the clouds and realize that  if they say or do something that pisses Admin Veetkam off then their privacy and potentially their saftey could be compromised...........................

It is one thing to post up details of a person that they themselves have made available, as I did with Veetkam W. Rentsch, but quite another for a webmaster to post up private and confidential about a person, that compromises their safety, and that they have not given permission to make public.

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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2010, 06:29:00 pm »

Radio - Interview with Kiesha Crowther/Little Grandmother June 14, 2010

Video Live At Santa Fé soul - Part - 1

Video Return of the Ancestors - Part - 1

Video -  One With The Nature
(April 2010)

Prophetic sayings of Keisha Crowther that follow are transcripted  parts of the video series - 2010 with Shaman, Kiesha Crowther.......

Kiesha speaks on 2012[b/]
by kedarvideo
It is also featured on Kiesha's site:
(days of darkness at 2012 date / pole shift / DNA changes / Be 'in' love and survive with New Earth, etc)

Kiesha in Zurich part 1[b/]
"...and these people would shift the consciousness from mind-consciousness into heart-consciousness, and change the world...(cut)...and these people would be called 'The Tribe of Many Colours'..."
"...if we start being love...(cut)...we get the answers of how to save our planet, and we get to stay...(cut)...if we do not, our children will not have a future..."

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Brainwashing elements in the videos
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2010, 06:36:40 pm »
Brainwashing elements in the videos

Kiesha in Zurich:

.......there are really some hypnotic elements incorporated in this video. Skip to 5:00 and take a look at how many times these transition effects are being used. When i first clicked on this video i thought the first 90 seconds were painful to watch, but now that i've skipped through the video a bit i can see how it gets much worse......

............While i have no doubt that the one who made this video was not aware of it, because he/she is so much used to these kind of things, all this transition stuff, the constant flow of words is a classic and obviously very succesful mind control/hypnosis tactic also known as 'flooding' ( for more information). Her monotone voice and the constant focus on her face make it all complete....

rickross on brainwashing:

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The Depth of the problem
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2010, 06:38:27 pm »
The Depth of the problem

.....There is something deeper and mythic going on.  The Earth is expressed through the First Nations communities.......

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Crystals and Crystal Ceremonies
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2010, 06:41:02 pm »
Crystals and Crystal Ceremonies

Crystal Message
Kiehsa - Little Grandmothers  Urgent Advive - to use QUARTS - Crystals  NOW:
Mother Earth is awakening.. much is being done in the coming days.. and we Must unite each other in love and to Gaia Beloved Mother.. this is important dear family and i will write extensively on this very soon.. but please.. gather yourselves a piece of quarts crystal and wear it around your neck.. IT is time to reconnect ourselves to Mother..
... and we become united as we once were during the days of Atlantis when Mother Earth and Her children were ONE!......
......A clear quarts crystal.. just clear quarts... and yes please share this info.. the children of men will once again remember who they are ...... we are the ones we have been waiting for and the time is upon us to unite with Mother Gaia again.. let our hearts beat as one.. Clear quartz is what is needed!!l
I wonder what will happen to the people who don't wear any quartz........

It occurred to me many decades ago that the delicate balance of this planet was greatly upset due to the displacement of various mineral deposits that were "strategically placed" where they were, for reasons that humans cannot or will not still fathom. .................To even suggest that the planting of a crystal back into a planet that has been pillaged...............

Crowther is also doing crystal ceremonies, e.g. in Hawaii :

Kiesha the ecofriendly crystal promoting shame-on approves of the following -

One thing about the photos you showed that concerned me is that many of the mines seem to depict child labourers.  I wonder if this is one more thing to put in a subtitle in the video? Something like "some crystal mines use child labourers to dig for quartz -  little children deprived of education, working in dangerous conditions".

Child labor is used extensively in mines in third world countries.  I'll make a new video after the holidays specifically focusing on this.  One thing to keep in mind is that several of the pictures showing shiny happy children, these pictures were taken at US mines where you can pay a fee to subject yourself and your children to hazardous conditions.  

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Web-hosting/design of Kiesha's site
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2010, 06:47:20 pm »
Web-hosting/design of Kiesha's site

possibly this allegedly Zurich based organisation?

The association aims to promote the CrystalSun practically lived spirituality and the organization and implementation of appropriate events and activities. It is politically, religiously and economically completely independent.

Currently these are the specific activities:

Support and promote the work of Crowther Kiesha - Little Grand Mother
Organizing and conducting seminars with Kiesha Crowther - Little Grand Mother
Support and promote the work and messages of the Ascended Master Lady Rowena
Sponsorship and organization of the WEB SITE (Tribe of Kiesha Crowther - Little Grand Mother) and all activities of this Tribe site - such as text translations
Sponsorship and support of the WEB SITE (an online e-card service, and awareness support to the delight of opening)
Building an online store for media and articles that serve the purpose of the association
Development of the Media - Publishing

This is the European man that also voluntarily made the website after he found the videos. He's putting a lot of time into the website and he's probably paying for the website hosting + domain as well. I am very certain that he is not a conman, he really believes everything Kiesha Crowther says, and apparently felt the need to promote her message by making the website.

Also Crowther's website was created and designed by Betsey Lewis of



This woman has conducted some interviews with Kiesha Crowther through her station. She appears to be very much into new-age stuff and prone to believe a lot. Again, to me it seems like she believes everything Kiesha Crowther says and felt the need to promote her for free.

Kiesha Crowther's videos are often posted on 'alternative news' websites and Facebook. To me it appears like 9 out of 10 people who know about her, found her videos on Youtube or found a link to those videos on such a website. I have never seen advertisements or anything in my country. I don't know about this John Kimmey but i think almost all people who are involved in organizing her events and promotion believe they're on a spiritual mission and contribute for free.

Whois suggests that his name is Veetkam W. Rentsch

There is a page about him here on a website devoted to followers of Osho

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Links to sites and Videos
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2010, 06:56:31 pm »
Links to sites and Videos

Kiesha's main sites:

Social Networking sites:

In regards to Facebook, there are a number of "unofficial" Kiesha Crowther pages popping up.............  

Youtube videos:

Youtube list for 'Kiesha Crowther Little Grandmother':
She says: "very important about the pole shifts and 2012, what we need to know.. i trust and believe in brother drunvalo"

Vimeo videos:

Crystal Message

Vimeo list for 'Kiesha Crowther Little Grandmother':

Song-prayer to the Crystal in Copenhagen July 1st

Video's at The Tribe of Many Colors:

Link to 'All videos':

Kiesha's fan videos:

Cutesy propaganda tailored to children:

Knowing Gets in the Way -or- Singing Little Grandmother's Song 1 of 2

Knowing Gets in the Way -or- Singing Little Grandmother's Song 2 of 2
" DO doubt the mind........." "......The time of prophecy has come, only it's not the dark doom and gloom of the 'Dark Force'! It's the 'Light Message'! the 'Right Message' that's come!......."

Forums/threads Kiesha is mentioned in:

Godlike Productions:
2010 with Shaman, Kiesha Crowther

The Crystal Skulls - Finally, Their True Purpose Revelaed? Kiesha Crowther tells...
(Kiesha:"....their life was taken, very willingly, so their spirit could go inside these skulls...")

Godlike Productions:
Little Grandmother on 2012. It will be beautiful.

David Icke's Official Forums:
Kiesha Crowther Little Grandmother In Zurich

Sites with Photographs:

(inclluding photo of her with an Eagle feather.)

Healing Path Expo's Photos - 10-10-10

Owl Medicine:

Here she talks about this great horned owl at 05:50. :

4. That story is bizarre. Among many Native peoples, owl is an omen of bad luck. One attacking you while dying is not something to brag about.

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Kiesha will have a book for sale!
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2010, 06:58:52 pm »
Kiesha will have a book for sale!

Oh and heard the rumor that the first book from LG is coming next year...

you heard correctly

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