Author Topic: William Burchett AKA William Jervis AKA Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle  (Read 166745 times)


Offline loudcrow

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #211 on: July 02, 2016, 09:08:11 am »
I've seen it all now. Cuddle with a professional cuddler. Only $80 an hour! http://cuddlingprofessional.blogspot.com/

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #212 on: July 02, 2016, 09:13:40 am »
Correction to my previous post. 80 Euro an hour or $60. The link is to a blog about Henry Red Cloud http://henryredcloud.blogspot.com/ which, by all
appearances, is run by "Medicine Turtle".  Here's a link to his user profile: https://www.blogger.com/profile/01747518210872902164.  There isn't much
this fraud doesn't offer! He's also in the Law Enforcement/Security profession now.

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #213 on: July 02, 2016, 09:16:25 am »
I am assuming he is using these names on the Dawes Roll to prove he's Cherokee. If I have time, I will debunk this claim.

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #214 on: July 02, 2016, 09:30:33 am »
"How to get pregnant By Cherokee Medizinmann" http://cherokeemedicine.blogspot.com/


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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #216 on: July 14, 2016, 12:40:26 pm »
Here is a link on findagrave which shows information about his father. If you click on the names of spouses, parents,
etc, you can view additional information. It should come as no suprise none of them are Native and none of them
ever lived among the Cherokee.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=burchett&GSfn=general&GSmn=macarthur&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=108817748&df=all&


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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #218 on: July 14, 2016, 02:43:57 pm »
http://www.skiddle.com/whats-on/London/Royal-Society-For-Medicine/medicine-turtle-medizinrad/11955312/
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medicine turtle medizinrad on Wed 7th May 2014
native american medicne wheel to be held on cherokee land in usa any one interested please contact
cherokee medizinmann
medicine turtle
medturtle@yahoo.com
http://schwitzhuette.biz/medizinrad.html
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Royal Society For Medicine in London1 Wimpole Street, London, W1G OAE

I don't for a second believe any such event was ever held at that address, which is that of The Royal Society of Medicine: https://www.rsm.ac.uk/. — That goes for this event, too, scheduled more than a year in advance:

http://www.skiddle.com/whats-on/London/Royal-Society-For-Medicine/medicine-turtle-the-quiet-revolution-of-the-7th-generation/12794681/
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medicine turtle the quiet revolution of the 7th generation on Fri 11th August 2017
medicine turtle new book
the quiet revolution of the 7th generation
https://www.amazon.com/quiet-revolution-7th-generation-stille/dp/069267716X

http://www.skiddle.com/ is a place where anyone can post anything: https://promotioncentre.co.uk/

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #219 on: July 16, 2016, 02:52:15 pm »
Posted by one of his fans (or by him): "henry red cloud wife is related to Chief Arvol Looking Horse, 19th generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe.
that correct that  Chief Arvol Looking Horse is related to
pipe carrier .hopefully this is not a shock
if you use the internet and do a little research you
also, find out that medicine turtle works for
Oceti Wakan and that medicine turtle
fund raises  for the oldest medicine man on the
pine ridge reservation Peter Catches"

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #220 on: July 16, 2016, 03:47:37 pm »
Posted by one of his fans (or by him) …

Where on the Internet is that posted?

Offline Chairwoman, NAAoG

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #221 on: July 17, 2016, 09:28:04 am »
William Jervis started to post comments on a German-speaking forum. As usual, he used different names. I chose an unusual way to try to communicate with him. It's obvious that he is lying most of the time, but unfortunately the people who worked together with him and made the whole tour possible are not aware of this. We were criticized for not communicating with him and Sabine Böhler directly, so I had to do something about it. There is no way, we are going to communicate with him by phone or e-mail, because I know he would switch our words around. He wants to meet with us and even suggested to work together as a team. For sure that's not going to happen.

He posted his point of view which is very interesting, because it shows how he tries to justify his activities by kind of changing his "strategy" now. I had good reasons for handling this whole situation the way I finally did. Unfortunately, a German forum member made this an issue and he started a discussion. His rude comments led to the point where we decided to withdraw from that forum, because it did not make any sense anymore. I had started several threads in order to inform the public about Jervis fraudulent activities.

I set up a new forum to give William Jervis the opportunity to post his point of view there. I transfered his comments to the new forum and I already made statements and asked questions. So far he did not post on the new forum. And I will let the German public know that we gave him a chance to communicate and answer all of these questions and that he refused to do that. Now nobody can say that we did not try. We are fair and we are stating facts and he is unfair and trying to defame us by spreading lies.

Currently he tries to make it sound like he is the victim and that our association is "attacking" the Lakota and that it is our fault that the tour obviously was not as successful as Jervis hoped. And he is posting more and more of those videos that show mainly poverty and of course, he is using all of these photos and videos taken during the tour. We knew he would do that and that was one reason why we contacted the German media.

Here is the link to the thread I started in the new forum. The quote posted in the comment above is from there.

http://517953.forumromanum.com/member/forum/entry_ubb.user_517953.1468350114.1129413145.1129413145.1.henry_red_cloud_tour_discussion-native_american_association.html

I also posted information about William Jervis using the identity of "Eye Tuwe Slow Waya". His name was Donald D. Hines and he was born on Sept. 29, 1928 and he passed away on Friday, July 19, 2013. William Jervis is trying to delete a lot of evidence material, but we have screenshots.

Here is the link to the thread I started to let people know that Jervis is using the identity of somebody who passed away in order to defame our associatiion and me. He is constantly mentioning my full name, because I gave an interview and my name was published in the two German articles that finally shed a light on the activities of Jervis' so-called academy.

http://517953.forumromanum.com/member/forum/entry_ubb.user_517953.1468349737.1129470325.1129470325.1.warning_william_jervis_aka_medicine_turtle_is_misusing_the-native_american_association.html
 

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #222 on: July 17, 2016, 02:27:58 pm »
Posted by one of his fans (or by him) …
Here is the link to the thread I started in the new forum. The quote posted in the comment above is from there.

OK, thanks, very interesting! Where is the German-speaking forum you mention in the first two paragraphs?

Offline Chairwoman, NAAoG

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #223 on: July 17, 2016, 05:49:41 pm »

OK, thanks, very interesting! Where is the German-speaking forum you mention in the first two paragraphs?

I sent you the link in a private message.

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Re: William Jervis aka Turtle Fire Walker AKA Medicine Turtle
« Reply #224 on: July 17, 2016, 11:00:30 pm »
William Jervis started to post comments on a German-speaking forum. As usual, he used different names. I chose an unusual way to try to communicate with him. It's obvious that he is lying most of the time, but unfortunately the people who worked together with him and made the whole tour possible are not aware of this. We were criticized for not communicating with him and Sabine Böhler directly, so I had to do something about it.

Ah so. Thanks for clarifying, finally, that the ominous person(s) urging you to contact Jervis and talk to him and Böhler aren't Native Americans, but white German nuagers. Your comments in the German-language forum were somewhat ambiguous in this respect, and some of your readers there seem to have misunderstood who it may have been to exert such a pressure.

It is perhaps a platitude that it isn't possible to please everyone and that attempts at trying most certainly will result in a failure. Of course died-in-the-wool Nuagers will be hard pressed to see what Jervis is doing is wrong and why. There will always be persons who are dead-certain Jervis is native, an enrolled member of the Cherokee, and a medicine person of utmost fame. This cannot be helped – at least not unless these persons are willing to listen and learn.

Direct discussions with Jervis, no matter whether in person or per mail, can only enhance Jervis' status – and he certainly will use and exploit such efforts for his profit.

But to give in to demands of direct communication with someone who has just gone out of his way to defame a person – worldwide!, since it was done online – as a ho and as his ditched former sexual partner is, sorry, an idiocy.

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Unfortunately, a German forum member made this an issue and he started a discussion. His rude comments led to the point where we decided to withdraw from that forum, because it did not make any sense anymore. I had started several threads in order to inform the public about Jervis fraudulent activities.

So there was some criticism voiced in the German-language forum, and this wasn't restricted to only one person. Criticism was raised e.g. regarding entering discussions with Jervis, or regarding the number of posts dumped by certain persons (after Jervis has been actively selling ceremony for some 10 years, everybody by now is aware he tends to overdo and publish a multitude of contributions, but one does not necessarily have to copy such a behaviour), or the number of new threads opened up to discuss Jervis and his activities.

In that German-language forum, you also posted a contribution today (i.e. Sunday, July 17) saying you did not feel safe in that forum any longer (you indeed spoke about yourself, not about any 'we') and needed a moderated forum to post. So what was the real reason then – not feeling safe or a few rude remarks (which weren't all that rude, I heard worse in that forum from miffed Nuagers) ?

And why are we given different reasons in different forums in the first place?

Informing the public about Jervis: great new idea.


Speaking about questions: to my surprise, I saw that your campaign group at FB promoted the blog/FB group „Awakening the Horse People“ on several occasions (i.e. April 19, July 10, July 13). Quite incidentially, that blog and group is maintained by a Euro-American person posing as indigenous. Her real-life name is Naomi Archer, although she has been posing not only as indigenous American, but also „indigenous European“ with the names of „Ana Oya Ametz“ and „Ana Oian Amets“. NAFPS has got threads on her already:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1383.0
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2278.0

Archer also poses as an alleged indigenous Euro shame-on, has sold seminars and ceremony in the USA and in Europe. Since she registered at the NAFPS boards, she has an intro thread in which she claimed that, as an indigenous European, she would experience a similar oppression as indigenous persons and peoples in the Americas. This of course does not hold any water, never did and never will. All it boils down to is that Archer uses and exploits her different contacts to promote and brush up her pseudo-historic fantasies regarding an alleged pre-Indo-European ancestry she means to „re-awaken“, particularly for paying clients in the US and in Europe who feel an urge to discover real or alleged roots.

So why is a campaign allegedly aiming at providing facts and information on plastic shame-ons offering material written by a plastic ad also promoting a plastic?