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Offline susanh

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 03:52:21 am »
Sorry board. I am new and I thought I was posting in two different areas.

As you can tell, I want these people exposed! >:(

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 01:55:06 pm »
Hello Susan, glad to have you here.

Could you tell us more about you and your mother's experience? How did she meet Brooke Edwards? How did Edwards rip off or otherwise abuse your mother? I realize these questions can be painful, but hope you'll tell us all you can to warn others.

And I hope you both prosecute and/or sue Edwards to the fullest extent of the law. No one, especially the elderly, deserves to be treated this way.

Also, to everyone at NAFPS:

It seems to me that Brooke Edwards is deserving of the same sort of campaign that we directed at Rachel Hozwarth.

If she's taking donations for a center that has never been built, that's fraud and something the IRS would be very interested in.

If she abused and swindled money out of someone, then we should be urging a district attorney to take her to court.

And looking further back at the thread, she clearly forged the signature of the tribal chairman on a clearly fake tribal ID. We should keep urging the Crow tribe or district attorneys to prosecute her for forgery. (Fake ID is just a misdemeanor.)

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 09:56:08 pm »
VENOMOUS ARE WE- filled with a rage so uncheck. Look real deep all those who use this forum to be so in judgement
Our Disease is more than in our brains. Our hearts are posion filled with projections from all who judge.

Forgive me SusanH. I mean no ill towards your mom. Only to as you say..... give the TRUTH to the story.
This little whiteman has been with many Cartoon Characters (Great Teachers) and we all are Frauds (ALL)
 RACE means nothing once you have dived into such (anyone?)

Forget the other videos. I see there will not appreciation of such.
Try this one maybe. "Worth seeing us stupid white guys eh "
We all are NATIVE TO THIS PLACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHUl7s7DS30

 :'( :o >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 01:58:24 am »
oh yawn. Another white person chastizing Indians for not worshipping her personal guru. As one of my friends says "Take the cotton out of your ears and stick in your mouth. LIOSTEN to what the objections of REAL native people are:

>>she sells ceromony
>>she was fraudulently enrolled in the Crow nation, than disenrolled
>>she bastardizes sacred ceremony


Those are just for starters.

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 11:51:52 am »
D-Dog,

Your post is not a good advertisement for the enlightened ways you learned at the feet of "Ms. Medicine Eagle."

If I knew where you lived, I would feel free to move into your house and drive your car.  I wouldn't have any contractual agreement with you to do these things.  I'd just do them on faith.  If you objected, I think it would probably  be because you haven't examined your own soul and don't want to fulfill my DREAM.

You're finding fault and judging others.  You are arrogant, misguided, selfish, presumptuous.

And slurring a poster's mother?  Clas-see.  Truly you have spent time in the presence of kind hearted souls from whom you learned much.

Stop it.

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2008, 04:28:52 pm »
http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/features/brooke-edwards.html         This is from the "Don't Pay to Pray Site".   But this is what we are up against.  The one's abusing the Spirituality and Culture always try to make it so the others are at fault.  And that really won't fly. She is one of the more famous ones known to abuse NDN Spirituality and Culture.   

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2008, 04:34:29 pm »
Dear Susan H and those who need to find fault or judge others.
I’ve known Sunny for many years and have known Brooke for three years. Im a filmmaker and friend who just so happened to spend time at there Montana Earth Heart. I could not help but respond to this board, my sadness. I spent almost a week with Sunny and Brooke helping building a Log Cabin Shop. I heard the stories of there uncertainty on being able to live on the land. Yes Susan they could be considered squatters, they had no contractual signed commitment from anyone. Sunny goes on faith for sure. The truth of the story is Brooke and Sunny are rare human beings acting in accordance of being HUMAN and being kind. They put most of there own money into the building of Earth Heart and your mother was helping them fulfill a DREAM. Have we all lost what having a Dream is and what HUMAN is? Or is it just finding fault. Susan you should find fault in your own soul. These are good people doing great things to help the world become a better place to live. Your fear of who you think they are and who they really are is what’s missing with all those who are out to HANG all the Frauds claiming to be something. I think Jesus was stoned or ridiculed for his claims. So yes they where evicted, but I can say with 100% that this was the wrong thing to do. You never took the time to go an meet them in person, talk with them and be with them to see what they where doing. Sunny is one of the most kind hearted souls on the planet and neither him nor Brooke deserve your lies about the truth of it all. I hope you all take note of finding your own poison in you hearts and find better things to do than find frauds. We live in a dark time and these people are doing the best they can to make some light.
Don’t believe everything you read as fact!
For those who find this board and are more interested in finding out more about who these people are. I suggest you watch some videos of them.  http://www.bravenewearth.com/earthheartseriesblog/earthheartseriesblog/earth-heart-series.html

Is your mother still committed? Susan? Isnt this the story, make our elders to be crazy so that we can take back what’s ours? Your 500thousand dollar property? Come On. Get a conscious and do something good with your life. Earth Heart Sanctuary had great possibility. Im sure somone on this board including Susan will have some sharp response. I suggest you sit with my words long enough to sink in and if you can take the time to watch the videos come to some other place in your heart.
Peace
DHARMADOG :'(


Wow....trying to act like you want sympathy by throwing negativity around.  Are these the kinds of things you're learning???

There's a "bigger picture" mentality going on here.  People like Brooke who use Native spirituality as a selling point incorrectly lead others to believe in an "Imagined Ideal" of what it is to be Native.  The truth is those things are communal and tribal specific, but the damage caused to these ways and the damage it causes on the individual level for any Native in America is real AND IT IS REALLY FELT.

D-Dog....what do you say about her claims to be Crow in her books and seminars???  Is there an "ends justify the means" argument that exists that truly makes this ok with you??  You're learning spirituality from someone WHO LIES ABOUT HER IDENTITY AND TRUE SELF.  What do you think you're really learning from her???  How does deception help make the world a better place???

Search your OWN conscience before preaching about others.  Your words say one thing, but the attitude and behavior in those words say another....it seems you've learned nothing more than to deceive yourself.

If you want to defend her...then do so....but do it with intelligence and grace.  You may find a listener somewhere....not the way you've done it.  Character assassination degrades discussion and goes nowhere.  Though I disagree with what Brooke does and I make an effort to let people know about the damage she causes you don't see any post of mine calling her names.  It seems you have a personal issue with Susan and you want to make it public.  Be real then.....you know who she is....let people know who you are.  Stand behind your negativity.

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2008, 05:48:16 pm »
btw....seen the videos.  You must see them in an entirely different light than I see them.  Whatever message you're trying to convey it's truly muddled when it contains misleading information.

Just one example of how the lack of general knowledge about Indians gets muddled into a dogma that sells books.

Sunny:  "So we all migrated here at one point, and then if we're here for a generation or two or three then we become native to America and so I'm a native American.  My father was born here and his father was born here and his father migrated over here so I've been made native and I'm more native than my father because uh my father doesn't live in daily intimacy with the world, natural world."

D-dog as you read this notice the difference in these words in the written language versus spoken.  There's two terms that sound exactly the same in spoken English, but have two different meanings....."Native American" and "native American".  Sunny is right....he's born here....he's native to America.  That makes him "native American" just like the rest of the entire population of America that was born here.  He is not "Native American", however, though the rest of his speech and then entire imagery of the video suggests STRONGLY that he is somehow. 

People have used the term "native American" to confuse things for a very long time.  When the politics of casinos or unpopular laws comes up near any Indian community, the opposition commonly comes up with the argument: "I was born here, that makes me native American, why don't I get special laws...." etc etc....

That's kind of why when speaking English I prefer the term American Indian just because it causes much less confusion.  It's less popular because we're not from India either, but for most people you can't argue what I mean by that.  The truth is Native American or American Indian are both wrong.  We all really identify with our communities and respective Nations, but when you're speaking in English about politics or anything that effects tribes across the board you gotta use terms like these and they're all not right...but we're stuck with them.  But just for arguments sake let's rewrite Sunny's quote using the term "Native American" (which is what is implied) replacing Native American and maybe you can see the glaring innaccuracy he's presenting to the world.

"So we all migrated here at one point, and then if we're here for a generation or two or three then we become native to America and so I'm a Native American.  My father was born here and his father was born here and his father migrated over here so I've been made Native and I'm more Native than my father because uh my father doesn't live in daily intimacy with the world, natural world."

So D-dog....what can I say.  You're helping sell a lie.  It's a muddled truth at best and you've done a magnificent job muddling it more.  If you wanted to get information on Native spirituality....why didn't you go to a few Native communities and take the time to get things right???  How were you so easily attracted to their megalomania??

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2008, 05:51:47 pm »
But just for arguments sake let's rewrite Sunny's quote using the term "Native American" (which is what is implied) replacing native American and maybe you can see the glaring innaccuracy he's presenting to the world.

please excuse the typo in the last response.  It should've read this way.

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2008, 07:12:44 pm »
1. The truth of the story is Brooke and Sunny are rare human beings acting in accordance of being HUMAN and being kind.

2...Have we all lost what having a Dream is and what HUMAN is?

3...These are good people doing great things to help the world become a better place to live.

4. Your fear of who you think they are and who they really are is what’s missing with all those who are out to HANG all the Frauds claiming to be something.

5. I think Jesus was stoned or ridiculed for his claims.

6. So yes they where evicted, but I can say with 100% that this was the wrong thing to do.

7...Don't believe everything you read as fact!


1. Ripping off an elderly woman is your idea of kind? Or even human?

2. I have no idea what you mean here, and don't think you know what you want to say either, other than some vague "But they seem nice to me" nonsense.

3. Show us how they've done ANYTHING to make the world better. Anything at all. All they've done is take money and lie for a living.

4. Again, what you say is about as clear as mud, and I doubt you know what you just said either.

5. You seriously just compared her to Jesus?

6. You would have preferred they keep abusing an elderly woman? And this is your idea of "kind" and "human"?

7. So, are you denying that Brooke Edwards forged her tribal ID card?

To everyone else, let's remind each other there's work needing to be done, getting the Crow tribal govt and local district or county attorneys to charge Edwards with forgery, or see if fraud or abuse charges for the way they treated Susan's mother are warranted.

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2008, 04:41:10 am »
In Direct Response to Dog,


Hello Dharma

My first response to you is who are you? Let your name be known....
Have you met my Mother? Have you met me? You have a  strong opinion for someone who hides behind a name of DharmaDog......


Who are you?





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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2008, 05:43:34 am »
DharmaDog
I will do my best to respond to your post.

First off, because you know Brooke and Sunny and raised a barn with them does not mean you know "THE TRUTH" of it all. I do know.  As someone who has known about Brooke for more than 20 years.

You are right in your post in saying "I never took the time to go see what they were doing" I never needed to go see...... I work, I live in these US states..... I work, I pay taxes,and I co-exisit with the law.. I don't rely on others to take care me and I damn sure respect and take care my Mother and what she and my Father worked for all of ther lives.

Shame on you for thinking my Mother was responible for financing Brookes pipe dream.......

I never wanted meet Brooke...... I would surely have strangled the woman had I come face to face with her!. I restrained myself.......and I refused to be in the company of such a sick person. My Mother knew my feelings always.

 Since you felt the need to disclose that my Mother spent $500 thousand dollars..... I will proudly say ....... yes, my Mother DONATED more  half of what she worked for all her life to invest in dream...GOOD DREAM....GOOD INTENIONS...... WRONG PARTNER!!!!

 You  say you have known her for 3 years..... I have watched her for over 20 years.......My finger on her neck as she sucked money from my Mother like a  river leach. NO MORE!

As for your attack on my Mom.  She is committed allright..... committed to not getting screwed.And I will protect and defend her tell the end.

 DOG,how dare you speak of my Mother as "committed"  My Mother has a brain disease. One I might add that has not effected her memory, but will take her life......... SHe struggles to get out or bed, more than anything as she faces her death,


 



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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2008, 06:01:36 am »
Dog,

I as hold my mothers hand in this transition from " Earth to Spirit"
I watch a woman who worked her life, raised two kids, held her husbands hand the day he died after 39 years of marriage. AND GAVE away her money to take care of herself........to make the world better, The only world she made better was "Brooke & Sunny".


 You have no idea the woman my mother is.........

You should be so lucky to have ever known shuch a fine woman.


Susan,
Loving Daughter of Sally






I know "THE TRUTH"

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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2008, 06:20:13 pm »
Now Dog, you and everyone on this board will hear the truth...


My Mother and Brooke made an agreement years ago.  My Mother invested her money in property,and set up an LLC called Beauty Way LLC.
Brooke was to teach, and build that company.  What happened was that Brooke lived free of charge,accepted donations for a non profit orgainization and never put one dollar into the business.  My Mother paid attorney fees,accountant fees,utilities,property tax.....EVERYTHING!  While Brooke took money from people and enjoyed her life...... I believe thats called FRAUD!

My Mother decided to sell the property in Montana that Brooke and Sunny called home. Un known to Brooke my Mom has no money tree..... she needs to take care herself FIRST.  And if you find fault in that then I don't know what color the sky is where you live.....sorry Dog but I have not had my Mother committed and kicked Brooke out for MY gain.  Brooke is committing fraud and my Mother has decided she wants no part of that. 

Hopefully the first time I meet Brooke face to face will be in a court to watch her answer for her crimes....... It's a matter of time for con artists to be caught. Miss Edwards time is near..... She will not out run the law.

Also, she and Sunny took the couter tops,door handles,sink and all of there so called impovements to Earth Heart.  Anything they could sell.... and left there garbage like the comman theives that they are.  When asked to provide proof of what they spent on the place they had none.  Hand written records and cash reciepts... Hummmm where do you think the money came from?? I think it came from people who donated money to a foundation that never exisited.... hence" the Sunny & Brooke Foundation"

Brooke had nothing when she ment my Mother, she has nothing now.....a sad ass story about how Susan has wronged her. I have prevented Brooke from taking advantage of my Mother.any more. I worked on my Mother behalf and at her direction to evict her squatters and take back what belongs to her............ Brooke is an educated woman who is master at maniputating words.  She preys on the depressed,lonely and trusting people of this world because she is too lazy to work and pay taxes like the rest of us. VERY SIMPLY.  She has created an alternate lifestyle and calls herself an earth keeper, metis, and so on. Look at her words carefully. 

Yes, people please look at the stupid video on braveneearth...... also,
keep in mind that Sunny Babba was born Robert, brooke has just enough Indian in her to say she is " Native" and the propery belongs to a woman they never even mention........ want to send some money to them now??

I thank the Great Spirit for this board and the people on here who are committed to exposing these FRAUDS! 

I have no financial gain for telling this story.... as a woman who loves her mother, keeps her side of street clean,and preys to a higher power, I am not affraid to tell what I know. I WILL CONTINUE to tell the truth to help others not be taken advantage of! 

On apersonal note.... DHARMADOG you are ill informed and I did not appriciate your attack on my Mother and I as human beings.... and shall pray for you. Your are ignorant and I will keep that in mind....

Susan
Daughter of Sally



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Re: Brooke "Medicine Eagle"
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2008, 09:28:49 pm »
What's the status of any legal case you have against Brooke Edwards? Is she being taken to court, either civil or criminal?

A useful start, as I've said before several times, is also trying to get her prosecuted for forgery.

From the tribal website:

 Baacheeitche Avenue

P.O. Box 159

Crow Agency, Montana 59022

PHONE: 406.638.3700

FAX:     406.638.3881

The rez is in Bighorn County?


Attorney
Georgette Hogan   
665-9720

Justice of the Peace
Leroy Not Afraid 
lnotafraid@mt.gov   
665-9760
 
Sheriff 
Lawrence Big Hair
lbighair@co.bighorn.mt.us   
665-9780

Anyone have other suggestions, information?