Author Topic: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation  (Read 179 times)

Offline milehighsalute

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Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« on: December 29, 2025, 06:49:29 pm »
Not sure where to put this

I think we need a section for artists (that include authors, actors too) passing themselves off as native and also fake tribes

This relatively unknown actor.....probably slightly less known as jai janini popped up....i read his bio then read his "tribal history" and yep it screams fake

I also cracked up reading that the notoweega were formed in ohio and warred with tribes down in south carolina? Woodland tribes werent known for being nomadic right?

They applied for state recognition in 2022

Offline educatedindian

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Re: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2025, 02:04:17 am »
Lucas is their chief as well as an actor. Whether he or they are legit are completely tied together. Here's what their site says:

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http://notoweeganation.org/index.php/about-us
he Notoweega or Norwards, also known as, Andatses, Hurons, Susquehannocks and Mingos, are an inter-tribal grouping of Southeastern tribes, that were one fire with the Delaware, Iroqouis,   and warred Tutelo/Catawba/Saponi's of South Carolina and Virginia. The Notoweega consisted of mainly, the Cusabo(Wapoo), Nottoway, Shawnee(Showanose), Meherrins, Cherokee(Tsalagi), Delaware(Lenape), Conastogas, Tuscaroroa's, Mingo-Seneca and eventually the Tutelo, Saponi, Catawba.

Through, war disease, and intermarriage, the various tribes banded together to retain their culture, land and traditions....

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Some of those are very distinct from each other, and some are still very much around. Mingos mostly became the Seneca Cayuse. Huron mostly became Wyandotte. Susquehannock and Andatses were wiped out, extinct. And that sentence "The Notoweega consisted..." goes on to list one people after another I think wpuld be very surprised to hear they are or were part of this group.

The group calling itself Notoweega seems to have only been around a few decades. They didn't file for state recognition until 2012, federal earlier. Then there's this:

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 http://notoweeganation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&layout=edit&id=116[
Retired Hereditary Chief of the Notowega Band of Chickamauga Creeks
Written by Sachem Great Elk Dancer Published in Hereditary Sachems
Was Head & Hereditary Sachem of the Chigamaugua Notoweega Creeks, whose Councils at the time were held in Staten Island, N.Y. until the year 2000. He was the signer of our Federal Petition with the United States Government. The Council was then moved to the ancestral homelands of the Ohio Valley under then, New Principle Sachem Sylvester Myrick and Original Council Member, War Sachem Great Elk Dancer For His Elk Nation.

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So the "tribe" was based in NYC because one leader lived there? Then they all declared themselves moved to Ohio. And at one point they petitioned Maryland for state recognition.

Lucas has been pretty active. He tried to have a casino in Ohio which was also accused of being a head shop, selling marijuana paraphernalia. I don't support the War on Drugs by any means, but doing this is just asking for people to consider your group a bunch of flakes.

Then he tried an online casino. He's filed suit against the city of Logan, state of Ohio, and federal gov't. You can find the long list of news accounts about that on their own site, alongside cultural events.
http://notoweeganation.org/index.php/news/notoweega-news

Not sure how many are part of this group. FB page lists 923 followers, but in the photos you rarely see more than a few together. Their supposed tribal forum is really empty.
http://notoweeganation.org/index.php/forum/index

There are several online obituaries for members who passed on who are listed as chiefs or other ranks. Can't help notice many mixed ancestry Black people. There are references to Notoweega as Qarsherskiy. Looking that up turns up this site and others:

https://qarsherskiy.simdif.com/faqs.html
https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Draft:Qarsherskiyans
https://www.instagram.com/qarsherskiy/
https://www.waivio.com/@koudeiland4news/islamic-sultanate-of-qarsherskiy
And dozens more.

Describing themselves as mixed race Creoles, Muslims and others. There was a strange offshoot, a supposed sultanate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/micronations/comments/1mdsia9/the_dark_truth_about_the_islamic_sultanate_of/

Offline Sandy S

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Re: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2025, 07:36:42 pm »
Marshall Wayne Lucas, born 1961.

Active Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dancing.elk.3

Name of business is Notoweega Nation Inc. First filed in Ohio in 2002. Search here: https://businesssearch.ohiosos.gov/

They received USDA funds for a Notoweega Nation Beekeepers Training Program to maintain bees in "the tribally designated jurisdictional area of the Notoweega Nation".

I'm curious what kind of feathers shown in this photo of him. He's holding one and looks like at least one in his hair. https://www.logandaily.com/news/lucas-given-probation-in-illegal-gambling-case/article_d3fd6c10-84de-559d-9bf9-212bbd18eec5.html

"Notoweega Nation - A Pre -Jesuit, Pre - U.S. Constitution, Tribal Government"  https://www.facebook.com/NotoweegaNation



Offline Sandy S

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Re: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2025, 09:10:30 pm »
In the initial articles of incorporation, 2002 for Notoweega Nation Inc. the purpose of corporation is "To preserve Native American Culture, History, Languages and to educate the population at large of Native Traditions."

Directors:
Sharon 'Mide" Land
Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas
Sylvester Myrick  (Raven/Fox)

The form is filled out by several people, all handwritten, I may have some spelling wrong.

Offline Sandy S

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Re: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« Reply #4 on: Today at 12:02:24 am »
Some beginning genealogy leads here:

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dispatch/name/maxine-howard-obituary?id=28779586

I used some social media leads also to figure this out.

Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas,  "Great Elk Dancer"

his mother Shawna Burkham

maternal grandparents Maxine M. (Adams) Howard https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/47841207/maxine-m-howard and Marshall Andrew Howard https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/47841191/marshall_a-howard

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We are one of the few Nations, whom has a core family group (Mayle, Mail, Male) is listed on a federal census that is not an specific Indian Census or Roll. By 1837, 46,000 Native Americans from these southeastern states had been removed from their homelands, ours, never left the bones of our Ancestors

http://notoweeganation.org/index.php/public-documents/146-1860-preston-county-census-indian
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I don't really understand what he is saying here. But I do see a Mayle in a crowd sourced genealogy of his maternal grandmother. Crowd sourced and online meaning it easily could be inaccurate. Even if everything is backed up with records that does not prove his claims.

His emphasis on "core family group" leads people to believe that if they have a surname on the claimed list that they then are members of this "tribe".

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"Tribal offices located in Logan, Ohio. United States, "Turtle Island".
Inherent Sovereign Government
Affiliated with the Escuit, S.C.
Over 30,000 members
Pre United States Constitution
We do not recognize the authority of Bureau of Indian Affairs.
Conducting Business as a self sustaining people."

http://notoweeganation.org/index.php/facts
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(ESCIUT https://cherokeeofsc.com/ , not federally recognized)
30 thou members? The Notoweega FB page has 923 followers.
As Dancing Elk he has about 4 thou followers. Marshall Dancing Elk Lucas on Instagram has 361 followers.


Offline Sandy S

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Re: Marshall "Dancing Elk" Lucas/Notoweega Nation
« Reply #5 on: Today at 03:17:57 am »
According to records uploaded to a crowd sourced family tree, everyone in censuses is listed "mulatto". All the way back, quite a few generations, to a slave owner who was born in England.

But this isn't professional genealogy. He'd need to pay a pro.

Everything he claims looks invented. He is performing, acting.