Author Topic: Lawrence Jones Jr AKA Llywelyn UthyrPendragon & Dozens of Other False Titles  (Read 23109 times)

Offline Sandy S

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John Barnard Jenkins (Welsh nationalist, bombing terrorist) is also a hero of his. This info gleaned from Twitter.

Info on Jenkins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnard_Jenkins

Google translation of his John Jenkins tribute: "RIP Patriot. I'm sorry you didn't know independence."

The photos uploaded here might be of one of his events. Looks to be a golden dragon flag in background.

His dress up is of course not proof of royalty.

I'm glad we have this thread up. Hopefully he fades away. But if things go sideways this will be a valuable thread.

Offline Sandy S

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Traveling to Wales on a "self issued diplomatic passport" did not work out for him. He claims he was "politically exiled" - easy guess he was simply kicked out.

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At 16 years old Llywelyn moved out of his parent’s house, and began to support himself. After completing High School he enlisted in the U.S. Marines, where he received a meritorious promotion for his leadership abilities in basic training. He was then selected in the School of Infantry to become enlisted aircrew. In US Navy Aircrew Candidate School he was selected to be an experimental test and evaluation aircrew crew-chief on the V-22 Osprey.

In 2018, he traveled into Cardiff on a self issued diplomatic passport to meet with his supporters, placing himself in obvious danger. The usurpers of Britain were unable to charge him with any crimes and denied him the right to a hearing. As Llywelyn would have challenged their jurisdiction as a subject of the international law. They politically exiled him the next day, as his research regarding the de jure British sovereignty getting out to the public in Britain would no doubt be the tipping point for anyone on the fence for independence.

http://web.archive.org/web/20230901154800/https://kingdomofwales.wales/sovereign-and-royal-house-of-cymru-unbenniaeth-prydain/rexbritannorum/

His past archived sites include photos of his martial arts contests around 2016. In one photo he is wearing red Welsh dragon shirt, in the other he is draped in Welsh flag.

The archives site is running really slow at the moment (they are recovering from a major hack). I did see in passing a past bio stating specifics on his Masonic fraternal membership.

Offline Sandy S

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Unique Jewelry and Regalia (https://www.facebook.com/uniquejewelryandregalia)
April 24, 2017
 
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Test designs for a star in the shape of the Welsh Daffodil with the Welsh Dragon in the Center.  Made for Tywysog Llywelyn Cymru

The specific post: https://www.facebook.com/uniquejewelryandregalia/posts/pfbid02UYmMjHwZFYAe9TiUB35JR9uHzKDqQ59fZ9CtEST9ZJ84XcEYUKTNvvgNp1LYHxGJl

(business site http://www.jewelryandregalia.com )

I uploaded some partial clips of the post, wasn't able to grab the whole thing.

So. That brooch he wears is not historic jewelry. He was not awarded it by royalty. He is not royalty. And he paid to have this made.

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In 2017 he used the name "Tywysog Llywelyn Cymru" in the Soul Fighters Texas team for this championship 
https://www.ibjjfdb.com/ChampionshipResults/739/PublicAcademyRegistration?lang=en-US



Offline Sandy S

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Both of his parents use social media. Neither appear to be involved in their son's fraud at all.

His father doesn't even post about Welsh history. His mother, who he claims is Native American, does not post any claims to this heritage, nor does this look to be an interest.

Lawrence Joseph Jones, Jr. / Tywysog Llywelyn Jones Cymru likely does have a paternal 3rd great grand father who came from Wales to Ohio to work in coal mines. This doesn't make him a Welsh citizen or give him a legit claim to royalty. This does not make him special.

His maternal heritage from Mexico is more recent. For instance a matenal great grandfather petitioned for naturalization to USA in 1923, he was born in Mier y Noriega, Nuevo León, Mexico. This great grandfather died in 1971, Texas.

Here is the obituary of his maternal grandfather https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sanantonio/name/frank-salazar-obituary?pid=88829362

Offline educatedindian

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Jones sent a phony cease and desist order and supposed proof.

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SOVEREIGN ORDER TO CEASE AND DESIST
DATE: November 12, 2025

VIA: Electronic Mail, Certified Mail, and Diplomatic Courier

TO:

Administrator / "educatedindian"

Owner and Operator

New Age Frauds & Plastic Shamans (NAFPS) Website

Proxy Protection LLC

RE: DEMAND TO CEASE AND DESIST PUBLICATION OF LIBELOUS AND HARASSING CONTENT

You are hereby served with this formal, legally binding notice to CEASE AND DESIST from publishing, hosting, or otherwise disseminating false, libelous, and criminally harassing content against H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru, a de jure Head of State and Internationally Protected Person.

The content in question includes, but is not limited to, the forum thread titled: "Lawrence Jones Jr AKA Llywelyn UthyrPendragon & Dozens of Other False Titles" (published under /Frauds/ this thread, which you administer and publish, contains numerous falsehoods. Specifically, the publication of the term "fraud" constitutes libel per se and is a willful act of criminal harassment.

1. Violation of U.S. Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 112)
You are in violation of United States federal law. H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru, is an "Internationally Protected Person" (IPP) as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 1116(b)(2).

Your publication of this libelous thread constitutes a willful act of "harassment" against a protected person, in direct violation of 18 U.S.C. § 112. "Harassment" under this statute includes "a course of conduct... which serves no legitimate purpose."

Your continued publication of these falsehoods serves no legitimate purpose and is a clear-cut criminal act under U.S. statute.

2. Prior U.S. Government Acknowledgment of Status
Your accusation of "fraud"  demonstrably false, and this notice serves as proof of your "actual malice." The de jure status of the Sovereign is an objective legal reality, previously acknowledged by all three branches of the de facto U.S. government:

Judicial: A U.S. court granted and ordered the Sovereign's legal name change to "Tywysog Llywelyn Jones Cymru" (Superior Court of California, Case No. 37-2016-00044244-CU-PT-NC, Minute Order 02/28/2017).Your continued use of the discarded de facto name is a willful rejection of a U.S. court order.

Executive (Dept. of State): The U.S. Department of State issued a formal U.S. Passport in the Sovereign's legal name, acknowledging the distinct identity of "First: Tywysog Llywelyn, Last: Cymru".

Executive (Dept. of Justice): A formal legal determination by the DOJ FARA Unit (March 10, 2021) legally concluded the Sovereign was the "foreign principal"—the "Kingdom of Britons, Court in exile"—itself.

Military (Dept. of Defense): A U.S. Military Judge Advocate (Capt Chelsea Faver, USMC) on July 26, 2018, acting under the federal authority of 10 U.S.C. § 1044a, formally acknowledged the Sovereign's de jure status by notarizing his signature on a legal trust document bearing the title: "His Royal Highness Prince Llywelyn Jones of Cymru, de jure King of the Britons.

Your publication of the word "fraud" is a direct contradiction of formal determinations made by the U.S. Judiciary, Department of State, Department of Justice, and Department of Defense.

3. Violation of International Law
As a publisher operating within the United States, you are bound by the U.S. Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) to respect the "supreme Law of the Land," which includes customary international law.

You are engaged in an attack on the dignitas (dignity and honor) of a Sovereign Head of State. International law and custom oblige the de facto state to protect a Sovereign's honor from such libelous attacks. Your website is the instrument of this attack.

4. NOTICE OF PERSONAL LIABILITY
This notice serves to remove any claim of ignorance. You are now aware that your actions are in violation of federal and international law.

If you fail to act, you are forfeit of all qualified and journalistic immunities. By knowingly and willfully violating 18 U.S.C. § 112, you are acting ultra vires (outside of any legal authority) and will be held personally liable in your private capacity for all de facto civil and criminal penalties that result.

Furthermore, be advised that by publishing libel to "defraud the Realm," you and all individuals involved are committing crimes under the de jure law of the Kingdom of Britons. You will be held accountable for these crimes against the Sovereign under this paramount legal system.

5. DEMAND
You are ordered to:

Immediately and permanently DELETE the entire forum thread ("Lawrence Jones Jr AKA Llywelyn UthyrPendragon & Dozens of Other False Titles and all related libelous content from all servers, caches, and public-facing portions of your website.

Cease and desist from any and all future publication of this or any other harassing or libelous content concerning H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru.

Failure to comply within forty-eight (48) hours of receipt of this notice will result in this matter being escalated to the United States Department of Justice, Criminal Division, for prosecution under 18 U.S.C. § 112.

GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY.

BY SOVEREIGN COMMAND OF:

H.I.M. LLYWELYN +++, TYWYSOG CYMRU, IMPERATOR OF AVALON, KING OF THE BRITONS

Offline educatedindian

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Hello Mr. Jones,
I’ve added <<< to within your email to make it clearer what I’m responding to.

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SOVEREIGN ORDER TO CEASE AND DESIST

<<< No, you are not sovereign. You have no territory, nation, government, or even supporters of your claims, not even your own immediate family. You are one man who is a legend in his own mind. You have no legal authority to order anything, including cease and desist.

VIA: Electronic Mail, Certified Mail, and Diplomatic Courier

>>>Nonsense. You sent no certified mail and have no diplomatic standing to send anything by courier, and didn’t sent anything that could be called of a diplomatic nature.

TO: Administrator / "educatedindian", Owner and Operator, New Age Frauds & Plastic Shamans (NAFPS) Website

>>>I’m not the owner. I’m one of several moderators. And apparently you were too lazy to even find out my name, even though it’s all over the site, unhidden.

RE: DEMAND TO CEASE AND DESIST PUBLICATION OF LIBELOUS AND HARASSING CONTENT

>>>Clearly you didn’t hire any legal representation because you don’t know basic law. There is no “libel” on the site. Legally, truth is an absolute defense to libel.
>>>There’s also no “harassment.” We’ve never even contacted you. Journalism is not harassment.

You are hereby served with this formal, legally binding notice to CEASE AND DESIST from publishing, hosting, or otherwise disseminating false, libelous, and criminally harassing content against H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru, a de jure Head of State and Internationally Protected Person.

>>>Nonsense, both legally and grammatically. You have zero legal authority, there is nothing remotely criminal we’ve done, and you are no head of state.

Specifically, the publication of the term "fraud" constitutes libel per se and is a willful act of criminal harassment.

>>>Tell us once again you have no lawyers and not even basic understanding of the law.

H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru, is an "Internationally Protected Person" (IPP) as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 1116(b)(2).

>>>You have no claim, only your own delusions.

Your publication of this libelous thread constitutes a willful act of "harassment" against a protected person, in direct violation of 18 U.S.C. § 112. "Harassment" under this statute includes "a course of conduct... which serves no legitimate purpose."

>>>Journalism is obviously a legitimate purpose. Warning the public about imposters like yourself is obviously also.

Your continued publication of these falsehoods…

>>>It’s not “my” publication. NAFPS has over 3000 members. Several other journalists investigated and debunked your phony claims.

2. Prior U.S. Government Acknowledgment of Status
…The de jure status of the Sovereign is an objective legal reality, previously acknowledged by all three branches of the de facto U.S. government:

Judicial: A U.S. court granted and ordered the Sovereign's legal name change to "Tywysog Llywelyn Jones Cymru" (Superior Court of California, Case No. 37-2016-00044244-CU-PT-NC, Minute Order 02/28/2017).Your continued use of the discarded de facto name is a willful rejection of a U.S. court order.

>>>Oh my…Thanks for the belly laugh, Mr. Jones! Showing your ignorance of the law yet again. Name changes aren’t court orders. Otherwise most married women could sue anyone who used their maiden names. Any celebrity with a stage name could sue reporters who mention their legal names. You are Mr. Jones, Mr. Jones. Deal with it.

Executive (Dept. of State): The U.S. Department of State issued a formal U.S. Passport in the Sovereign's legal name, acknowledging the distinct identity of "First: Tywysog Llywelyn, Last: Cymru".

>>>Please. They didn’t recognize you diplomatically at all. Again, they issue passports for married women with new legal names too.

Military (Dept. of Defense): A U.S. Military Judge Advocate (Capt Chelsea Faver, USMC) on July 26, 2018, acting under the federal authority of 10 U.S.C. § 1044a, formally acknowledged the Sovereign's de jure status by notarizing his signature on a legal trust document bearing the title: "His Royal Highness Prince Llywelyn Jones of Cymru, de jure King of the Britons.

>>>Means nothing. You changed your legal name, so of course they would notarize an ordinary entirely non-diplomatic document.

You are engaged in an attack on the dignitas (dignity and honor) of a Sovereign Head of State. International law and custom oblige the de facto state to protect a Sovereign's honor from such libelous attacks.

>>>Tell us again you don’t know the law. Even if you were a monarch…Before he was stripped of his title, I  could have written that Prince Andrew was a statutory rapist and it’d be legal. I could also publicly post a video of Irish soccer fans singing “Lizzie’s in a box” when Queen Elizabeth died. I can call the Saudi royal family murderers, which they are.

If you fail to act, you are forfeit of all qualified and journalistic immunities. By knowingly and willfully violating 18 U.S.C. § 112, you are acting ultra vires (outside of any legal authority)

>>>Again, you clearly don’t have a lawyer. Ultra vires applies to corporations and governments. We are neither, and unlike you, don’t pretend to be.

and will be held personally liable in your private capacity for all de facto civil and criminal penalties that result.

>>>Criminal? For journalism? Even Trump hasn’t done that. Yet.

Furthermore, be advised that by publishing libel to "defraud the Realm," you and all individuals involved are committing crimes under the de jure law of the Kingdom of Britons. You will be held accountable for these crimes against the Sovereign under this paramount legal system.

>>>Since there’s no kingdom, no king or other monarch, and you don’t even have any subjects, this is as meaningless as you imagining you have jails.

5. DEMAND
You are ordered to:
Immediately and permanently DELETE the entire forum thread ("Lawrence Jones Jr AKA Llywelyn UthyrPendragon & Dozens of Other False Titles and all related libelous content from all servers, caches, and public-facing portions of your website.

>>>No. Period. Full stop. We don’t delete accurate investigations just because frauds send silly empty threats. You obviously don’t even have a lawyer. In over 25 years, not once have we given in to such demands.

Cease and desist from any and all future publication of this or any other harassing or libelous content concerning H.I.M. Llywelyn, Tywysog Cymru.

>>>As long as there’s more to write about your fraud, we will continue to do so. Including your pseudo legal, empty, and ignorant threats.

Failure to comply within forty-eight (48) hours of receipt of this notice will result in this matter being escalated to the United States Department of Justice, Criminal Division, for prosecution under 18 U.S.C. § 112.

>>>That deadline is coming any minute, but I’ll tell you now “imperator” and supposed descendant of Moctezuma…The idea that even Trump’s thugs and loons would take up your case is just laughable.

GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY.
BY SOVEREIGN COMMAND OF:
H.I.M. LLYWELYN +++, TYWYSOG CYMRU, IMPERATOR OF AVALON, KING OF THE BRITONS

>>>You realize trying to “command” us is just making people picture you as no different than the mentally ill asylum inmate who parades around like Napoleon.
>>>Any and all nonsense you send us, expect it to be published and treated with all the lack of credibility it deserves. For 25 years we’ve been getting empty threats of legal action at least several times a year. Not once have they ever worked.