Author Topic: George Price & Quaker Sweatlodge  (Read 15962 times)

Offline Defend the Sacred

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Re: George Price & Quaker Sweatlodge
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2019, 01:48:10 am »
It's a pretendian sweat. Their claims that it's based on other cultures, or that it's "universal" are distractions and they know it. Those cultures don't have sweatlodges.

Offline Sparks

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Re: George Price & Quaker Sweatlodge
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2019, 02:34:08 am »
Yes, but this is a different group. The original website was taken down after criticisms. Thread's been re titled.

This group is led by a George Price.

Isn't that the same George Price referred to here back in 2006, then?

Quoting from the long letter of complaint
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"There are also native teachers who have worked quietly with devoted non-natives to find ways to share what is good in their traditions, because they think the underlying spirituality could be of benefit, even to us whites, if used respectfully."
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"George Price’s article in the February 2002 Friends Journal, which explains how his native teachers led the early sweats at the Gathering, and then instructed him to continue them
By his own account, George has spent many years studying and working with such "authentic" native teachers."
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"Clyde Bellacourt of the American Indian Movement, who also encouraged Price to continue the sweats, when Bellacourt visited the Gathering in 1989."

So here this guy has repeatedly pointed out that these traditions were learned from Native teachers.

Here is part of a comment about Chuck Fager and George Price made by a Quaker who attended the 2005 Gathering in Blacksburg, VA.

"Oh-- also last year, at the 2005 Gathering in Blacksburg, VA, Chuck Fager and George Price (George being the Friend who was blessed by an Native American elder to share the sweatlodge among Friends)-- Chuck and George convened their own session about the sweatlodge, which I attended a part of.

Some of what I heard there was another "take" on the history of what led up to FGC's decision to cancel the sweatlodge workshop... I remain VERY concerned for the "antagonistic" approach that was being modeled, rather than encouragement for listening together for the Truth in what each "camp" was presenting."

I don't think Mr. Fager is as naive and shocked as he would have people think he is. It has been several years since the sweat lodge was discontinued and this man still has the audacity to wage his whiny war on what he perceives as an entitlement. Mr. Fager ignores what is obvious to virtually all Indians, culture appropriation, and even asks us to to explain it to the poor dear.

And one more thing, who are these so called tribal elders that all these white people seem to know? They would have you think that there is one every corner. I noticed that they never give a name or tribal affiliation.

Offline RedRightHand

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Re: George Price & Quaker Sweatlodge
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2019, 08:42:55 pm »
The "Universal" "Quaker Sweat" with "Celtic, Edo, etc" influences [sic] is just the lie they put on their public facade. They know damn well they're pretendians, appropriators, exploiters. Once you get into their group, they admit they're ripping off Lakota people. Funnily, they even think they're ripping off the Cherokee. Actually, maybe they are. Who knows what those white freaks are getting up to under their plastic tarps. Hey ya.

In their Facebook group, George Price admits it's a pretendian sweat, that he's been leading for years, "based on Inipi", and tries to reassure someone looking for "a Native sweat" that they should check out his.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/quakersweat/

George Price wrote: "Ryan - our sweat is based on an inipi. I was trained by Native American teachers - both Cherokee and Lakota. We don't use a pipe but the form is similar. I have been leading sweats for 30 years." 19 March 2019  https://www.facebook.com/groups/quakersweat/permalink/2214850971871539/

And he signs his nuage posts, "Ho, mitakuye oyasin - to all my relations"  3 October 2018 https://www.facebook.com/groups/quakersweat/permalink/1998421943514444/

See attached screen shots if you can't access the posts.