"Trying to prove Native American ancestry?" Issues with ancestry.com

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ancestry.com sells AncestryDNA kits. They claim "Discover your ethnic origins with one simple test.". Ancestry is the biggest for profit genealogy company. I imagine they are making quite a profit with their DNA kits at $99 a pop.

I am concerned with how they present "DNA ethnicity groups".  https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/native-america

And about this from their Facebook page:

Genealogy Tip:

Trying to prove Native American ancestry?

Confirm your ancestor's location (and year), then cross-reference known tribes from that area.

But that would not "prove" anything. I could have some "Native American" results from their DNA kit, but a test taken ten years later could give me different results.  I could do records research and find out where and when a particular ancestor was, then read up on what tribes were and are there ... but it is too big of a leap to then decide I have proven Native American ancestry.

Ancestry is neglecting the fact that communities and tribes get to make their own decisions about membership.

Most likely more people will pay for these tests, eager to find specific heritage. They will believe what Ancestry tells them. They will then continue to insist on heritage that may not be true, that profits and bad research techniques trump community knowledge and sovereignty.

[Defend the Sacred]

Excerpted from:

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/least-important-election-the-case-to-stop-changing-the-clocks-and-the-problem-of-dna-as-proof-of-culture-1.3834912/sorry-that-dna-test-doesn-t-make-you-indigenous-1.3835210
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Sorry, that DNA test doesn't make you Indigenous

So you send your DNA off to an ancestry company, and get a report back that says you're part Native American, or part Italian, or part Nigerian. So what?

Maybe you're excited to learn about your roots, but can you really consider yourself part of that culture?

Not really, says Kim TallBear.

"We construct belonging and citizenship in ways that do not consider these genetic ancestry tests. So it's not just a matter of what you claim, but it's a matter of who claims you."

TallBear is an indigenous scholar based at the University of Alberta. She's reacting to a particular advertisement for DNA ancestry tests, that shows a woman who learns she is "26 percent Native American," and can't wait to learn more about her heritage. It got regular play in Canada during Major League Baseball playoffs this year.

But learning about one's "Native American heritage" is not simple. For one thing, "Native American" is a pretty broad term: whose heritage does she learn? Inuit? Maya? Coast Salish? The tests don't give you that much detail.

And, TallBear says, even if you chose a specific group, having some matching genetic markers from ages ago doesn't mean you have the lived experience to become part of that community.

"People who are not actually members of indigenous community, tend to define indigeneity or Native Americanness as a racial category. Now for us, those are umbrella categories which help us talk to one another, relate to one another, but our primary sense of belonging, and identity, is our particular indigenous or tribal community. They don't use the word tribe up here, but in the U.S. we do, so somebody might say 'I'm a member of the Métis Nation,' or 'I'm a member of this particular Cree band,' I would say I'm Dakota."

Belonging to particular community can mean sharing beliefs, cultural practices - and even official membership or citizenship. Not just genetic material.
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     "It means you live here, you speak this way, you think about family in this way, so these things are much more complicated."
    - Alondra Nelson, Columbia University

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The "Cherokee great-grandmother" style of racism

In the United States, it is common for people to claim some amount of unproven indigenous history: most often Cherokee.

To Kim TallBear, there's a sort of racism to that, and it lines up with anyone who would attempt to claim Native American heritage based on a DNA test alone.

"There is this national sort of story, and this I do see becoming more prominent in certain parts of Canada too, that you have people with no lived experience in indigenous community, they can't even name any indigenous family or ancestors, but they have a family myth about a Cherokee great-grandmother, or they're descended from Pocahontas, you get that a lot on Virginia. So I think it's another kind of claim to own indigeneity, to try to have a moral claim or sense of belonging on the North American continent and so that's the context in which these tests are so popular."

Charles Menzies agrees with that. He's an anthropologist at the University of British Columbia, and a member of B.C.'s Gitxaala Nation. 

He says the advantage to claiming indigenous background without having lived as an indigenous person is that you can take on the sort of earthy, spiritual side of things, but not have to deal with any of the negative stereotypes:

"It also sets apart recent immigrants and true, rooted, kind of Euroamerican/Indigenous citizens who have a real connection to the land, but they're not kind of locked in a primitive past - which is the really nasty racist connotation. All of these kind of popular imaginations imaging having some amount of indigenous background, but not so much as to be completely thwarted by the deficits."

Kim TallBear, author of Native American DNA, is an associate professor at the University of Alberta.

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[Sparks]

Another interview with Kim TallBear that I have used for years to cool down those who come into genealogy groups claiming to be so-and-so many percent indigenous according to some DNA test:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129554-400-there-is-no-dna-test-to-prove-youre-native-american/

Also recommended here, in a good guide to the good old paper trail in genealogy:

DNA GENETIC TESTING

There is no DNA Test to Prove you are Native American
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129554-400-there-is-no-dna-test-to-prove-youre-native-american/

Genetic Testing Clashes between Biological and Cultural Tribal Identity
https://storify.com/roshnigiyer/genetic-testing-on-native-americans-conflicts-with