Author Topic: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands  (Read 26346 times)

Offline Litsehimmel

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 01:28:29 pm »
Hi Kathryn,

Thanks for correcting me on Maurice Rebeix.

I did find him connected to the 10th edition of the "Festival America" mentioned on this site http://www.csia-nitassinan.org/spip.php?article352. The event took place in September 2012 and Rebeix was said to have been part of a discussion on Leonard Peltier with "Jimbo" Simmons", a Chocktaw from Oklahoma and AIM-West representative. However, I'm not knowledgeable enough to say what all this means.

Here's another page by Rebeix, containing photographs: http://instagram.com/maurice_rebeix#

LH

Offline Litsehimmel

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 08:19:56 pm »
Yet another site from the list in the first post, http://www.dewegvanhethart.com/zelftherapie/hut.htm

A mixed site with bits about christianity, about mantras, the daila lama, etc. Under F.A.Q. (Veel gestelde vragen) the owner of the site writes:

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I myself was baptized as a Roman Catholic, own a bible and read it regularly, and frequently visit a (R.C.) church.

With this site I want to share with others that which personally helps me on my path. That is God, Jesus, the Angels, Maria, my guides, and all other subjects which are mentioned on my site. Use that which speaks to you, and leave the rest for what it is. I respect every person. There are many ways which lead to God. Besides Christianity they include Buddhism, the Islam, Hinduism, the Jewish faith, the paranormal, the spiritual, and shamanism. Those ways lead to God as well, Gos is in everything, and everything is in God. Why keep looking at the differences between our brothers and sisters? Let's stop judging. Let's see what we have in common. That is more than you think! This is what I try to keep doing.

On her Links page she redirects to:

Herky's Lodge
Site owned by Frank van den Hurk. Description: "All about Native Americans and their respect for all that lives." My pc had difficulties entering the site (I have a bunch of firewalls and stuff). He received a WhiteFeather's Web Award on June 1, 2003: "The web site owner honors the Native People through his website and offers much to the Native Web Community. Browse through Herky's Lodge & you can find Native History, Culture, Heritage & more. The original WhiteFeathers site has diappeared but seems to have popped up again here: http://www.whitefeatherfoundation.com/who-we-are. Apparently it was started by John Lennon's son Julian.

Frank is an elusive guy. I did find a guest book entry by him stating:

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Frank van den Hurk 02-04-12 16:15:05

Heeeyyy Jacqueline,
Nice to have found you on the net after I met you yesterday in Venray in "De Witte Hoeve" (the white farmstead). We had a good and enjoyable talk about the indian feeling, the traditions and of course the wolves. enjoyed this very much and noted down your information to find you on the internet. The articles which you offer are beautiful and honest. Have given the two sachets with Loki's hair a nice spot. We might possibly run into eachother again if it is meant to be... Wish you lots of luck and good fortune with the good work that you do.
Greatings,
Frank
ps if you want to visit mysite...
http://members.chello.nl/~f.vandenhurk/

I got this of a cached version of the site because the current site sparked off a severe warning for possible harm to my pc! Could be nothing but still. The site http://www.wolfwhospeaks.nl/ (domain currently for sale) is owned by a woman named Jacky Guelen.

I found her again via an old link in connection with a site called redskymedicine.com. On the cahced version of the old site it says:

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Jacqueline's life is very closely connected to that of indians. She met Michael Redsky, a North American Indian who tries to live as much as possible according to the traditional way. He gives healings and readings in America. She wants to do something for him from The Netherlands and sells CDs, jewelry and medicine bags for him in The Netherlands at paranormal exhibitions. She is also in touch with Chief Eagle, whom she me together with Michael Redsky. This was a very special meeting, he adopted her as his granddaughter and she received a native passport from him.

Well ... I guess that says it all. The redskymedicine.com site is off the air. I found another link between the two from 2010 here : http://www.hallohorstaandemaas.nl/michael-redsky-neemt-cd-op-in-horst
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American Michael Redsky recorded a CD last Saturday in the Fine Tune Studio of Marcel Siebers and Peter Muijsenberg in Horst (Netherlands). The singer-songwriter is a direct descendant of the Cherokee Indians. The CD will come out in several weeks in both the United States and The Netherlands.

Michael Redsky (46) will be in The Netherlands as of March 23 and travels back to the United States in April 13. He wants to pass on his roots to others with his spiritual music. Some time ago Michael redsky came in touch with Marcel Siebers and Peter Muijsenberg while he was visitng with Jackie Guelen in Castenray in The Netherlands. Jackie is known within indian culture as 'Wolf Who Speaks'.
The remarkable thing is that the American records his CD in Horst. "That has everything to do with the fact that Peter and Maqrcel give off good vibes. They feel the same thing as I do when I make music. Everything I do, I do from my heart, pure and honest. I see it as a kind of spiritual healing in which your inner self comes to rest," says Redsky. He knew what he had to do from the age of seven. During his youth he spent many hours with his tribal elders who taught him the indian culture.

People wanting to meet Redksy can do so on April 10 at Natural Body Balance in Horst. This is where the American gives a workshop called 'Stone People's Medicine', in which he uses crystal skulls. The skulls are meant to be a tool to help improve and broaden participants' spirituality. The workshop is from 10.00 to 16.30 and a maximum of ten people can participate.

Is this by any chance the same Michael Redsky exposed as the fraud Michael Hester ?!

As for Wolf Who Speaks, it looks as if she now goes by the name Chanouk according to her Twitter account https://twitter.com/chanouk  This way I found her Facebook account http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jackies-Traveling-Trading-Post/145737922156303?ref=stream

There's more intertwined links which I'll delve into, but this is what I found so far.

LH

Autumn

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 11:16:09 pm »
This is Jacqueline Guelen's website (from her Twitter page):  http://www.thewolfwhospeaks.nl/


Offline Litsehimmel

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 11:34:38 pm »
Oh wow, thanks Autumn,  I missed that one.  This man named Chief Big Eagle ... he just gave a Dutch woman a tribal enrollment card?! That's not even possible, is it? And is she referring to Chief Big Eagle Aurelius H. Piper. January 30, 1915 - August 3, 2008 ?

LH

Offline RedRightHand

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 12:54:53 am »
This is Jacqueline Guelen's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/jacqueline.guelen. I'm including the Dutch:

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Goodmorning beautiful people outthere.
Today I will attend a spiritual day and will teach how to make prayerties and tell why the people of Turtle Island make prayerties. So walk my talk today and I love to do that as I have many stories to tell from my journeys.
Wishing you all a good sunny sunday and see ya later !!!

28 april 2013

Wegens groot succes elk jaar nu alweer voor het 14de jaar op rij de

Spirituele feestdag


Een hele dag echt feest voor gelijkgestemden.

Met vele spirituele gesprekken en entertainment. Inclusief een goede lunch, optredens, een consumptie en na binnenkomst zijn alle consulten bij 24 deelnemers gratis.

Ik ben er zelf natuurlijk ook om de hele dag ook spirituele vragen te beantwoorden.

slechts 32 euro p.p (beperkte plaatsen, zodat iedereen aan de beurt komt)

van 10 tot 16 uur in zaal (ruime parkeerplaatsen voor de deur gratis)

bij cafe zaal "Hoog en Droog" te Geldrop

adres winkelcentrum de Coevering

www.moniquevanderklooster.nl

altijd een hartelijk welkom voor mensen die alleen komen en voor groepjes.

Ik verheug me weer op deze verrassend leuke dag om kennis te maken met iedereen die komt en oude bekende weer eens te zien!

Offline Litsehimmel

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 01:18:29 am »
Translation of the Dutch part of the Facebook page

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28 April 2013

Due to the major success each year this is the 14th year in a rowof the

Spiritual festive day

A whole truly festive day for likeminded people.

With many spiritual conversations and entertainment. Including a good lunch, performances, a consumption and after entrance all consults with the 24 participants are free.

Naturally I will be there myself in order to answer spiritual questions all day long.

just 32 euro p.p (restricted number of seats, so everybody gets a turn)

from 10 tot 16 hours in hall (ample parking space by door, free)

at cafe hall "High and Dry" in Geldrop

adress shopping mall 'de Coevering'

www.moniquevanderklooster.nl

always a heart-felt welome to people who come alone or in groups.

I'm looking forward again to this surprisingly fun day to meet everybody who comes over and meet up again with old friends!

LH

Offline Sparks

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Re: Sweatlodge ceremonies in The Netherlands
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2018, 12:19:19 am »
... William Wout de Klerk ...

LH does it look like these two are still active?

Yes, like Ingeborg said he's still active. Also on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/352141568159003/

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Willem Wout has been trained by the Lakota Indians in the United States and is a Shaman. I know Willem Wout as an intelligent, strong man with a loving and caring attitude who is able to create the proper conditions in which you can experiment, heal and grow.

This particular ceremony was held last Saturday. Through the organizer Ben van Duijn I also found de Klerk's FB account:
https://www.facebook.com/willemwout.deklerk?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab

The two Facebook links in the quote are not available any more.

Offline Sparks

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Re: Plastic sweats and pseudo-tantra in The Netherlands
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2018, 12:23:01 am »
Since 2013 there is a separate thread about Willem Wout de Klerk:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4057.0

[Willem Wout de Klerk - Netherlands, Colombia]