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Re: Kiesha Crowther - "Little Grandmother"
Superdog:
--- Quote from: educatedindian on February 06, 2011, 07:59:15 pm ---And now the latest, a message from Crowther's manager Jennifer Ferraro. She sent out a message which claimed she (or perhaps Crowther) has cursed everyone who criticized Crowther, and that we must all apologize to Crowther, or the "curse" would not be lifted. Seriously...I mean, seriously? :o ::) It was so bizarre to see, it's hard to believe, even for Crowther and co.
Yes, truly more evidence of their belief in peace, love, and light.
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It's hardly a credible claim...however if they are engaging in that sort of behavior, let's just say it's another can of worms they're opening that they obviously don't have a clue about. If they were really going to engage in a dark process of cursing someone, they would probably wanna know that when you reveal who placed the curse then you run the risk of having it returned on you....
But anyway, like I said I don't have any belief in the credibility of that claim (just check the source...this is the camp that makes a living off false claims) and it's definitely a bizarre one. One that, with some common sense, should even raise the suspicion of even the most ardent follower.
Hoping you post that one...if for anything the entertainment purpose, but for the purpose of the board just more evidence coming right from the source of the hypocrisy of Crowther and her business associates.
Superdog
Superdog:
--- Quote from: syl9wil on February 06, 2011, 06:43:55 pm ---She started the lecture yesterday with a "negative story" about herself and her assistant being robbed of money, credit cards, driver's license, and her colleague (I think she was some type of organizer) being robbed of her child's private school tuition money that was in her purse. She put a new age spin on the event and waxed philosophical about it, and stated that she would be called out for a police interview. Then she went into her guided meditation and, IMO has a hypnotic/trance like effect, planting seeds of such "love" and "compassion" that when she was allegedly called for the police interview (she claimed to have left her belongings in the kitchen, the event took place in a church) that several people passed the hats for a collection to help. Why would anyone leave that much money for tuition, in a purse, at an event like this? The thing is even I was taken in at first and pitched in, then in hindsight realized, what a con artist! And, she is good at this!
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You got that right. An obvious con. The timing...everything WREAKS of it. Not to mention, after expenses, the Santa Fe event is going to bring in over $20,000....(costs of tickets to the event x the number of people - the cost of the venue....all posted on Crowther's own pages as well as Santa Fe venue). You have every right to ask for your donation back...doubt that will get you anywhwere, but it would be interesting to see what kind of fish story they'd send your way if you did.
Superdog
critter - a white non-ndn person:
--- Quote from: Superdog on February 07, 2011, 12:13:34 am ---
--- Quote from: educatedindian on February 06, 2011, 07:59:15 pm ---And now the latest, a message from Crowther's manager Jennifer Ferraro. She sent out a message which claimed she (or perhaps Crowther) has cursed everyone who criticized Crowther, and that we must all apologize to Crowther, or the "curse" would not be lifted. Seriously...I mean, seriously? :o ::) It was so bizarre to see, it's hard to believe, even for Crowther and co.
Yes, truly more evidence of their belief in peace, love, and light.
--- End quote ---
It's hardly a credible claim...however if they are engaging in that sort of behavior, let's just say it's another can of worms they're opening that they obviously don't have a clue about. If they were really going to engage in a dark process of cursing someone, they would probably wanna know that when you reveal who placed the curse then you run the risk of having it returned on you....
But anyway, like I said I don't have any belief in the credibility of that claim (just check the source...this is the camp that makes a living off false claims) and it's definitely a bizarre one. One that, with some common sense, should even raise the suspicion of even the most ardent follower.
Hoping you post that one...if for anything the entertainment purpose, but for the purpose of the board just more evidence coming right from the source of the hypocrisy of Crowther and her business associates.
Superdog
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although i don't believe they can put a curse on anyone, it's a stupid claim..
the fact remains that it is in their mind to harm people who oppose them.. or
they wouldn't be saying such a thing.
and that to me, is dangerous. next thing they'll have armed guards around
the room while she gives her talks.. of course, they'll say it's for her protection
against various threats she has received.. when it is she who is making violent
threats against others..
mtkoan:
I took down the mirror. I thought about it a lot more, and I don't think its my place to interfere with all this. I personally do think she's told some lies, and I hope the Salish sort out their concerns.
But even so, I don't want to get caught up in accusations, etc. I read this and took it to my own heart:
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/respect1.htm
I feel real bad for anyone that's by damaged by Kiesha's behavior, but since its not me personally, I'm bowing out.
Good luck ya'll.
Saga:
--- Quote ---And now the latest, a message from Crowther's manager Jennifer Ferraro. She sent out a message which claimed she (or perhaps Crowther) has cursed everyone who criticized Crowther, and that we must all apologize to Crowther, or the "curse" would not be lifted. Seriously...I mean, seriously? ... It was so bizarre to see, it's hard to believe, even for Crowther and co.
Yes, truly more evidence of their belief in peace, love, and light.
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Personal message?
Anyway, if we are going to get in the art of magical thinking, and they have done a curse... well, let's just say that Everything you put out there will get back at you... Of course most of the people who get into her talks are the kind who want to believe in magic, so in that way this is easily put into self fulfilling prophecy, otherwise I can see no evidence that she could work any sort of magic, so wouldn't be too nervous about curses. But indeed, it IS a big sign of people not being anywhere near of "light and love" not to mention peace or morals, to say something like that. And yes, it is bit worrying too. How far will people go in spreading their "truth"...
These people seems to be enjoying any way they can get attention or money... by reading what there's been written in new posts...
--- Quote ---But if anyone wishes there to be more activity against Crowther, we're certainly all for it.....
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I have text in my blog with the links in here and some other sources. She seems to be googled quite a lot with the words "fraud", "lies", "fake" etc.
And why I was wondering why this forum is so quiet, there was many quiet days after some of the pages were gone. :) I didn't think that the conversation has died out completely. :)
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