Wm Fredrick Posey AKA Turtle Heart - "Ojibwe Indian Priest" living in Italy

[Epiphany]

According to the information at sacredpipe.org, he used to go by the name "Winterstone".

William Winterstone. Ojibway ceremonial leader and keeper of sacred bundles.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:Scientology_infiltrates_Indian_Nations

This clipping from 1981

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1454&dat=19811031&id=-OBOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HBQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=808,6987888

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This 1985 clip may help with fact checking what family members have claimed.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JsdDAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q64MAAAAIBAJ&dq=william-winterstone&pg=3082%2C3007052

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William Winterstone   
November 25, 2008 

Passito. I am an American who lives on Pantelleria island. Here Passito is usually considered a fresh wine...

http://scienceblogs.com/terrasig/2008/11/21/the-friday-fermentable-mediter/

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Here is the full Star-News - Oct 31, 1981 article clipped and put in .pdf

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American Indian Computer Art project BBS

House of Song Dog
       
Lilliwaup WA  98555

This is a very unique and specialized service. It is truly one-to-one
personal service.Turtle Heart has many credentials in these areas and is a caring
and articulate reader. The BBS offeres a unique, in-depth and personal
reading service unique in its richness and depth.

This conference is dedicated to providing readings, counsel and
learning from the combined medicine forms of Astrology, Oriental
medicine, and focused native american practices.

http://artifacts.textfiles.com/206/206-877-9004/Conferences%20List.txt

[loudcrow]

Wow, Piff. Well done!

Here's a really interesting read:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Q7dgWYaDHTUC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=%22American+Indian+Computer+Art+Project%22&source=bl&ots=k0lZp8XhLQ&sig=eMg9MLSsU7uEifMZjpof8gLGYUc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=43SpUfH1N6OEygHHzYC4Bg&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=%22American%20Indian%20Computer%20Art%20Project%22&f=false

The problem is William Frederick Posey/Turtle Heart/William Winterstone is NOT Native American.

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This looks to be his sockpuppet:

Books from Turtle Heart (Winterstone)
« Thread Started on Mar 3, 2013, 5:44am »   
He is a great writer, artist and keeper of the sacred, If you can read thru his blogs about the Four Directions Unity Bundle and the travel around the world. Many teachings on several websites, check them out:
http://sacredpipe.blogspot.ae/
http://www.aicap.org/
http://aicap.org/eBook_main.htm

I have bought all his ebooks and they are all a great read. I also donate, that is a personal thing, not a solicitation here. Some ebooks and such are free.

look around and tell me what you think.....

I gained a whole new understanding of the sacred.

Jim

http://nativeamerican.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=books&thread=1004&page=1

sleepyjim

I am Tsalagi (Cherokee), a veteran, a defense contractor and am
working the big sand box...

Re: Greetings from the Middle East
« Result #17 on Feb 10, 2013, 9:18am »   
I left my bundle at home safe, I was told the Arabs do not look kindly on ceremonies of most kinds......

That being said I know a few Emirates who would welcome/host something....But not many could know about it or else bad news for them......Maybe even me.

Another reason I am sooo ready to come back home.

Jim

Member bio says 50 years old.

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Circles of Light

Tribal elders finding role for wizardry of Internet

By Dan Pacheco  Denver Post Staff Writer March 30, 1995 
"Dear World:
"For reasons which may become apparent over time, I have become a scout or a runner in this Internet. I drop songs as my offerings as I seek along this new migration path, this Cyber-Bearing Crossing, a new route for singing, a new trail for the dust of our clinging to the tribal contract with this sacred creation."

Speaking from the middle of the parched Mojave Desert in Johannesburg, Calif., 45-year-old artist Turtle Heart uses the computer and modem to breathe new life into an ancient message of an oft-forgotten people.

"There's been so much written about native people, but none of it by native people. The Internet is the best tool in 500 years to give native peoples a voice," he said. 
 

http://futureforecast.com/danpacheco/clips/circles.htm

And here he is on HuffPost http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Turtle_Heart?action=comments

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/Ahnishinabe

[Autumn]

And here he is on HuffPost http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Turtle_Heart?action=comments

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/Ahnishinabe

He is quite prolific on Huffington Post.  He has 451 comments in the less than two years he joined as a commenter.

Someone has his number on the forum.  Check out this comment:

Commented Nov 3, 2012 at 14:54:34 in World
"Italy. I moved here 8 years ago and my standard of living immediately went WAY up. My life here is many times better in terms of quality of life, actual money, and social connections and very much better in terms of food and housing. Only thing, is very hard to find peanut butter here, and I miss my New mexico green chiles...otherwise getting out of USA was best move I have made with my life ever. From over here, the USA looks really rather nuts."

And the reply:

Bruskie on Nov 3, 2012 at 15:17:41
"Great to hear from you Turtle Heart. Also, the United States Is gleefully joyous that you have left, and we feel likewise that you leaving was one of the best things for us and our country. Good Riddance!"

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This Posey surname line is actively researched by many. Indiana births back to 1837. Virginia and Maryland prior to that. A birth 1652 in Maryland, parents from France (Francois Poschet, born 1615) and England.

Civil war and American Revolution both represented.

The Francis Posey = Francois Poschet belief is hotly debated online. But Francois Poschet is the believed first immigrant patriarch of this Posey line.

Looking over census records myself (focusing on the men carrying the Posey surname) and also looking through other people's work - haven't once seen any possible mention of NDN heritage.

[debbieredbear]

wow, House of Song DOg. Long time since I heard that name. I tried to support this store when it was in Quilcene, but the owner had too many, uh, "issues."

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wow, House of Song DOg. Long time since I heard that name. I tried to support this store when it was in Quilcene, but the owner had too many, uh, "issues."

So glad you saw this Debbie, was going to ask if this was familiar.

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There was a prominent Lenape "Delaware chief" man named Turtle Heart / Weeweenoaghwak Tedabaghsika als Agassqua.

Posey uses the name "Turtle Heart" and "Hymhenteqhous Mizhekhay Odyin Jessakid Wabeno Aneek-i-nan".

Now that Posey is in Italy, he is appropriating more cultures: http://www.aicap.org/tanit/1_tanit_th1.html

From he and his wife: http://www.aicap.org/tanit/tanit's%204%20sides.html

The ancients used a basic series of symbols to talk clearly about the Creation and Sacred secrets of life. The circle, the triangle, etc. Diagrams of these symbols are in fact a statement in an old, rather alchemical or initiated language.

He's making many assumptions and drawing parallels where there might not be any.

[debbieredbear]

So when I first was aware of the House of Song Dog, is when we took some family members up to get christmas trees in Olympic National Forest. We saw this place when we were done and stopped in to check it out. There were arts, crafts, beads etc. The guy seemed ok. A year later we stopped in again and the guy went whackjob on us. Started cursing out and chasing my 12 year old stepdaughter and my 12 year old niece. Scared them. The men in the group step in between the owner and the kids and the guy says he didn't do anything wrong because  they had "bad vibes." THEY WERE KIDS!!! He told us all to go Eff ourselves and to never darken his door again, that we were evil. We definitely never went back. A couple of years later, we were at an art show in Skok and this guy walks around, dressed in what looked like an eastern style shirt. Kinda like a ribbon shirt but different. I did not recognize him because he had gained about 50 pounds. But my husband did. The guy told us that he had left Quilcene because people were "unfriendly" there. One of our friends said that people had called the police on him because of things he was doing. He threatened people and went into a little store and was screaming obscentities at them. Yeah, that would make people unfriendly.  Anyway, at the art show he gave us his card and was all friendly and wanted us to come and visit their new store in Liliwaup. Sure buddy. You bet. No wonder the guy has no contact with his family. They are probably afraid of him. I only wish that WE had called the police when he chased after our kids.

[Diana]

So when I first was aware of the House of Song Dog, is when we took some family members up to get christmas trees in Olympic National Forest. We saw this place when we were done and stopped in to check it out. There were arts, crafts, beads etc. The guy seemed ok. A year later we stopped in again and the guy went whackjob on us. Started cursing out and chasing my 12 year old stepdaughter and my 12 year old niece. Scared them. The men in the group step in between the owner and the kids and the guy says he didn't do anything wrong because  they had "bad vibes." THEY WERE KIDS!!! He told us all to go Eff ourselves and to never darken his door again, that we were evil. We definitely never went back. A couple of years later, we were at an art show in Skok and this guy walks around, dressed in what looked like an eastern style shirt. Kinda like a ribbon shirt but different. I did not recognize him because he had gained about 50 pounds. But my husband did. The guy told us that he had left Quilcene because people were "unfriendly" there. One of our friends said that people had called the police on him because of things he was doing. He threatened people and went into a little store and was screaming obscentities at them. Yeah, that would make people unfriendly.  Anyway, at the art show he gave us his card and was all friendly and wanted us to come and visit their new store in Liliwaup. Sure buddy. You bet. No wonder the guy has no contact with his family. They are probably afraid of him. I only wish that WE had called the police when he chased after our kids.

So Debbie, the crazy who chased your children is this Posey character ??