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Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« on: June 04, 2010, 02:33:41 pm »
Hi, someone posted this on FB and I don't believe it's Native American.. if it is I'll be surprised.. 

I'd like to educate her in a kind way, can someone look at this and give info that I can relay to her?

Thanks!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2466713/native_american_zodiac_native_american_zodiac/
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Offline tecpaocelotl

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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 04:33:06 pm »
Just by looking at it, I could see a lot of things wrong.

Other than the animals are from different regions of the United states, she also doesn't specifies any tribe that uses it. That's the most obvious clues that it's fake.

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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 06:30:46 pm »
It sounds ridiculous to me, just like Native American tarot cards and Native American yoga, but what do I know?

On the subject of Native American yoga ......

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About Ana Forrest
Ana Forrest is recognized worldwide as a pioneer in yoga and emotional healing. Born crippled, her own life trauma and experiences compelled her to create Forrest Yoga. Having studied many yoga styles and healing modalities, most importantly Native American medicine & ceremony, her focus in Forrest Yoga is to quide the student in the sacred exploration of truth, healing, and "the Great Mystery". She is a well-known contributing expert to Yoga Journal and other national wellness publications. She travels internationally teaching at yoga conferences, workshops, and teacher trainings. Ana is on the board of Advisors for the Foundation for Athletic Research & Education (F.A.R.E. play) and is an instructor for continuing education at the University of Bridgeport College of Chiropractic.

http://www.forrestyoga.com/press2.cfm?name=presskitnewsreleases

*Mystic Meg mode*
I predict that there will be Native American crop circles and Native American psychic pets as themes for workshops before too long
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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 10:49:53 pm »
Just by looking at it, I could see a lot of things wrong.

Other than the animals are from different regions of the United states, she also doesn't specifies any tribe that uses it. That's the most obvious clues that it's fake.

Thanks, well, I didn't think Native Americans had 'zodiac' in some form or way.. but I didn't know..


nemesis.. yeah, nuagers want to mish mash everything together until everyone is confused. 
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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 03:46:50 am »
i would not call this fake but just junk art

Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 02:16:32 pm »
So, ndn's have zodiac?
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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 02:56:37 pm »
Zodiac is European. Some Mesoamerican peoples had astrology like the Mayans, but no North American tribes did.

The biggest most obvious mistake is that it has 12 moons. A calendar based on the moon would have 13 moons.

Looks like it ripped off a lot of the names from Sun Bear's medicine wheel. (2nd illustration.)
http://www.eso-garden.com/index.php?/weblog/sun_bear_medicine_wheel/

The zodiac site says the author is Ben Morales, a "Native Californian." No mention of his alleged tribe, and I couldn't find Morales anywhere else on the net except sites selling this zodiac. The site says he's 70 years old. Maybe that accounts for all the mix ups. The "ducks flying" sign has a different bird on it, maybe a robin or sparrow. The "ripe berries" sign seems to show a fish walking on land. Cornplanting moon doesn't show cornplanting, frogs return doesn't show frogs, etc. It's just random Franklin Mint plates with spears and feathers thrown around it.

The site owner, Francis Starre, also sells health cures on his myspace page and shows up on lots of psychic pages.
http://blogs.myspace.com/francisstarre

Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 06:16:58 am »
thank you.  end result is that she deleted it from her fb page. 
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Re: Native American Zodiac Symbols,
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 10:36:09 pm »
dear forum,

the tradition of astrologic based in the history in Asia.

In the German-language countries there was formed a own art
of astroligic.

The symbols of the zodiac based in the history of Asia.

The moon astrologic of Sun Bear is a fantasy, founded by Sun Bear
and their followers. There exist not "Indian astrologic of the Earth".

In fact, for example maya have deep knowledge about stars.

Several authors speculated, that the Cheyenne Nation have secrets
about astronomic relations.

But I will you not make tired with such examples.

greetings
fredvoss