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Offline dabosijigwokush

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Is this group for real? AIM PA
« on: September 18, 2009, 01:09:45 am »
http://www.myspace.com/aim-pa

The anonymous 36 year old male founder claims that he was given the authority to form an AIM chapter from someone called "Chink Whitekiller". (A Google search turns up nothing on him, and no one I know from decades in the movement has heard of him.)  

[Al's note: Changed title of thread.]
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Offline LittleOldMan

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 08:21:35 am »
Just a couple of questions please.  I am on dial up my space is a problem.  Where is this happening location please.  Autonomous Aim, or the National Aim.  I will be speaking with an Aim Rep. Sat week on some other matters will be glad to check on this also.  "LittleOldMan"
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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 01:19:05 pm »
Can't find any mention of this group except its own site. He seems to personally know a Sharen Garcia, and my guess is he's also recently learning about some of the issues.
Bee Neidlinger is an oldtime AIMster who lives in PA. She runs the yahoo group Ancient Native Heritage and might be able to help.

Offline corine68

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 10:06:07 pm »
Good Afternoon Relatives,
AIM PA has been in contact with us, before they started and when the got up and running two months ago- they have been working with us as a AIMChapter in PA- They are a small group eager to be taking on issues. My husband and I have spoken a few times to them and most recently about the "Hawk GoodFire" who is out in PA running Pow Wows in ZOOs and running sweats where women are being molested and harrassed during the ceremony.  I hope this helps- thank you all for all you do.
Respectfully,
Corine Fairbanks

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 11:10:57 pm »
sorry, I didn't put who this was from!
Corine Fairbanks
AIM SB
aimsb@ymail.com

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 07:05:18 am »
Hi Corine,

Thank you for that.

I am sure we will all wish the AIM PA Chapter well.

Piya
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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 07:10:31 pm »
I received an account that differs quite a bit from what we've seen posted so far.

Chinka Whitekiller used to run an autonomous AIM chapter with three other AIMsters. Whether he has the power to recognize chapters is unknown, and doubted by my source. CW is alleged to have a criminal record for arson and uses tactics like physical intimidation, destruction of property, and threats of violence against elders. The alleged arson record is definitely something that needs to be tracked down.

There are rumors that they worked with Gilles O'bomsawin. GO is associated with this group below.
http://www.aaanativearts.com/printout388.html

I'm not certain of their relationship, if any, with the St Francis group that have their own thread here already.

Again, I don't see any evidence so far this new chapter is itself doing any wrong. But the one who is supposed to have approved their chapter has questions about him, and unfortunately that may reflect upon the group.

It certainly does not reflect at all upon the causes endorsed by this group or the great majority of people who support them.

ETA: Chinka Whitekiller is also known as Chinka Buck.

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 07:22:44 pm »
They have friended a bunch of us on MySpace.  My impression, based on who all they've friended and the bulletins they've sent out, is that at least some of them are people we know from working on the White Ego Fraud (Rachel/Suraj Holzwarth) situation.

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 10:37:21 pm »
I asked to be added as a friend and connect, being I am in Philadelphia. Thought it would be great to have someplace local to support Indian issues. I got a reply back. The person who answered is a member of the Southeastern Cherokee Council of Georgia.

http://www.secci.com/

They are supporting this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/runndn2/

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=498258675&blogId=509337807

I'm personally not real comfortable with them after finding this out.

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 04:02:29 pm »
  They have the Nanticoke-Lenape tribal symbol on the page as "tribes represented" but their "Nanticoke" member is not on the tribal rolls for that tribe.   

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 06:57:14 pm »
  They have the Nanticoke-Lenape tribal symbol on the page as "tribes represented" but their "Nanticoke" member is not on the tribal rolls for that tribe.   

Same thing with the Tribal seal of the CNO even though the guy who wrote to me is a member of Southeastern Cherokee Council of Georgia, one of the tribes on the CNO taskforce list of fakes.

Ironic all the talking about taking on wannabees and spiritual exploiters. This is an example of what the CNO taskforce talks about, people using their copyrighted material to make themselves look legitimate, and diluting and confusing what is really Cherokee.

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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 02:58:57 pm »
I know Leonard's daughter but they are all native
this guy is too light to be a son of leonard
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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
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Re: Is this group for real? AIM PA, Leonard Peltier's son
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 04:05:40 pm »
They are supporting this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/runndn2/

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=498258675&blogId=509337807

I'm personally not real comfortable with them after finding this out.

They have been sending out lots of bulletins asking people to sign that petition, usually with subject headers like "Let's keep our traditions alive!!!!!!" .... Basically the same text as the blog post.

and another

http://www.myspace.com/lpdocpa

In another bulletin, they said this:

"A.I.M.-PA is autonomous,and although we are fighting sum of the same causes as the LPDOC-PA,we are not the same group.

"The Leonard Peltier support group of PA. is not A.I.M.-PA"
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