Author Topic: "Native American Church" Strawberry Plains TN, Jerry Dills AKA Peshewa  (Read 69775 times)

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2010, 06:24:23 pm »
Educated Indian:

Thanks for your reply. I will do my best to do some research and post it here. This will take me some time to do.

I will being the process of research today. This will take time. I will post in bits and pieces here as I am able to find these things. Like you guys, I have to eat and do things to survive and this is all on my spare time. But as you can tell, I am dedicated and have no reason to blink.

For now I believe I have protected myself enough to blur who I am. If the NAFPS folks are approached by these agencies, please release the contact information I have already provided to you, to them. You have me permission to do so. I will not contact them directly. I will let them contact me. But as far as I am concerned, they need to take the first step. If I approach them I will just be another whiny-assed wannabe who deserved what he got. Let them interview these folks I've named here. [EDIT] In addition, a 22-year old death threat that has not been acted on will have little weight at this time.

I will be back as I am able and post my findings here, but only if supported by links, documents, etc. Some of this may involve a trip to Tennessee for me. I will do my best.

My findings may be posted in no particular order, but I will also adhere to the number system you outlined above, to keep things glued together for all reading this stuff.

For starters, let me dispel with item #3 and #6:

3. I'm not sure how relevant this is to much of anything, unless it's part of a pattern of abuse, or pretending to be something he's not. There are still some polygamous NDNs in some places if someone knew where to look, though obviously not recognized under the law. Same with kids outside of marriage. Only abuse or neglect of his kids is relevant.

Regarding the multiple wives, I am aware that this is still in practice by legitimate, real Indians and wish no harm upon them or to shine a light in that respect. [EDIT] This information was presented primary to show a pattern of deception by Jerry Dills. There are issues of abuse involved however I cannot speak to that at this time and would prefer that individuals with first-hand knowledge would come forth voluntarily. If I can dig up contact information, can someone here contact them and conduct interviews?

6. Giving peyote to a kid is as wrong as can be.

Find and locate Shanti Peshewa who told me this himself some years ago. Also visit Steven Stormer. Also Tom Wilkinson's son may have something to add, although he may not be willing to come forward. Interview these individuals if possible. I am unable to do this without revealing myself. This needs to be done independently by a third party.

More to follow as I am able...

clearwater
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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2010, 06:51:55 pm »
Item #8 Eugene Hager

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#139 Tennessee Band of Cherokee (ca. 1999; same as above?)
Eugene Hagar, Audrey Little, Knoxville
http://cita.chattanooga.org/TNNAorgs.html

Note that Eugene's name is misspelled. It is correctly spelled Eugene Hager.

I will also try to obtain records from the TN Secretary of State.

EducatedIndian, please also refer to my post #4 in this thread (page 1 of this thread). I will also try to pull corporate documents for all those corporations mentioned. This may require a trip to Nashville...

What I will attempt to show with these corporate documents is the web of corporations used by Jerry Dills to reflect and reference themselves, as indicated in post #4, and that the same people are involved in these companies from the same address...


[EDIT/UPDATE/ADDITION:] This took some tracking due to a typo error in the company name. Here is the corporate information. This was Dills' corporation with Eugene Hager as the face on the company:

TENNESSEE BANK OF CHEROKEES, INC. [sic]
was actually supposed to be Tennessee Band of Cherokees, Inc.
dissloved by TN Secretary of State, 1987


http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000115873
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Name:     TENNESSEE BANK OF CHEROKEES, INC.
Old Name:    
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Dissolved (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    04/29/1982
Formed in:    Knox County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    April    AR Due Date:    08/01/1988
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    12/31/1987
Principal Office:    ROUTE 2
STRAWBERRY PLN, TN 378710000 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    1801 JEFFERSON AVENU
KNOXVILLE, TN 379170000 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Shares of Stock:    0

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A

Note that Eugene Hager was NOT Cherokee. He was the face put on that company by Jerry Dills.

clearwater
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 12:16:05 pm by clearwater »

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2010, 08:58:55 pm »
#5. Again, sources on the death are badly needed.

This will be more difficult to track down than I thought. I have called Memphis Coroner's Office, Memphis Commercial Appeal, Memphis Vital Records, and TN Vital Records. Since I do not remember the exact date this incident happened, I cannot pinpoint the article in the Commercial Appeal which referenced this. It was printed way back in section B as I recall. I believe this happened in summer 1988 but cannot recall for sure, and may be off by a season? The newspaper does not have online records gong back that far nor does it keep its own archives. The only archive of that newspaper exists on microfilm at only one library that I have been able to track down, the Benjamin Hooks Central Library in Memphis, which is 500+ miles from me. Being on microfilm there is no index, just each day's issue of the paper. The Vital Statics offices will not release any information to me without a date, or I can pay an hourly fee for research.

Nor have I been able to locate an online obituary, which would be in Pine Bluff, AR as I recall. Again, mostly due to the older date which is not in any searchable database. The State of TN Vital Records will perform a search for me based on the name and location, however, it is expensive to pay a researcher ($15 per hour) and I do not have the resources. Also, at best I would only receive a Validation of Death, which would not contain anything other than the name and date of death. As I am not related to the deceased, I cannot obtain a copy of the death certificate. If I could at least pin down the exact date, the rest would be easier to locate, primarily the brief news article that appeared. I am sorry that my memory of that event is not specific as to date which was about 22+/- years ago.


#7 Again, records are needed.

This too may be difficult for the same reasons. The Commercial Appeal and The Tennessean had numerous articles on this topic but both papers do not have searchable archives back to the 1980s. The Tennessean only goes back to December 2002. I phoned that paper and spoke with their archivist, and he was kind but could not offer any help because they are understaffed. He referred me to the microfilm archive at the Nashville Public Library, which is 350 miles from me. That library also charges $15 per hour for research.

Wow this will be much more difficult that I may be able to do on my own... ???
« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 09:06:19 pm by clearwater »

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2010, 09:20:29 pm »
4. We badly need sources on that fed investigation. Court records and news stories online would be the easiest way.

This information came when silver star and I compared notes by phone last night. I had heard that this had occurred, silver star confirmed being there when this happened. However, I am unable to locate any reference to this through any google search I can come up with. I also checked the SC Administrative Law Judge proceedings and found no reference. This will have to be validated by those who were there.

Since I am not an investigator and was not a party to the license or permit, my contact with the SC Secretary of State was fruitless: any such records are not available to me, it appears.

I am seeing that I am not so well equipped to engage in this archival research. I will continue to see what I can dig up.


9. If possible, is there a way to contact the widow?

I have searched the Eastern Band of Cherokee websites and cannot find any reference to Roger Crowe's obituary. I believe he passed away in 1998+/-. [EDIT] I have learned that the store his ex-wife worked at is no longer in operation at the mall. I had the name of the store wrong and have corrected that earlier post here. I have initiated some emails in an attempt to locate his widow.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 06:00:29 am by clearwater »

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2010, 10:23:39 pm »
Here is a preliminary search of Jerry Dills' corporations:

[EDIT/ADDITION:] To clarify, please note that in the 1990s the location was known as Strawberry Plains with a zip code of 37871. When the E-911 service was installed in the mid-to-late 1990s the area was re-designated as Knoxville, TN with a 37914 zip code. The physical location is Knox County. The PO Boxes are in Strawberry Plains, TN which is in Jefferson County. However, the Oscar Armstrong Road address is the same physical location and has never changed.

TENNESSEE INDIAN COUNCIL, INC.
Tennessee Indian Council was administratively dissolved by TN Secretary of State in 1991

http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000085505
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000085505: Corporation Non-Profit - Domestic
 
Name:    TENNESSEE INDIAN COUNCIL, INC.
Old Name:    TENNESSEE INDIAN CENTER, INC.
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Dissolved (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    08/13/1976
Formed in:    Davidson County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    December    AR Due Date:    04/01/1992
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    04/26/1991
Principal Office:    1018 OSCAR ARMSTRONG
ROAD
KNOXVILLE, TN 37914 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    1018 OSCAR ARMSTRONG
KNOXVILLE, TN 379140000 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Public Benefit Corporation:    Yes    

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A


NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN MEDIA CORPORATION
charter revoked by TN Secretary of State 1991

http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000130935
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000130935: Corporation Non-Profit - Foreign
 
Name:    NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN MEDIA CORPORATION
Old Name:    NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS IN MEDIA, CORPORATION
Foreign Name:    
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Revoked (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    07/21/1983
Formed in:    South Carolina    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    July    AR Due Date:    11/01/1990
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    04/26/1991
Principal Office:    PO BX 671 2901 BUNCO
GREENVILLE, SC 296020000 USA
Annual Report
Mailing Address:    PO BOX 59
STRAWBERRY PL>, TN 378710000 USA

AR Exempt:    No
Public Benefit Corporation:    Yes

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A



NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH, INC.
Two corporations were filed, one for profit (dissolved) one non profit:

http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000100173
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000100173: Corporation For-Profit - Domestic
 
Name:    NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH, INC.
Old Name:    
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Dissolved (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    01/23/1981
Formed in:    Jefferson County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    January    AR Due Date:    05/01/1989
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    09/15/1989
Principal Office:    RT 4 OSCAR ARMSTRONG
STRAWPLAINS, TN 378710000 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    RT 4 OSCAR ARMSTRONG
STRAWPLAINS, TN 378710000 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Shares of Stock:    0

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A


http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000261765
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000261765: Corporation Non-Profit - Domestic
 
Name:    NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH, INC.
Old Name:    
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Active    Initial Filing:    01/26/1993
Formed in:    Jefferson County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    December    AR Due Date:    04/01/2010
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    
Principal Office:    ROUTE 4
OSCAR ARMSTRONG RD.
STRAWBERRY PLNS, TN 37871 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    P.O. BOX 53
STRAWBERRY PLNS, TN 37871 0 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Public Benefit Corporation:    Yes    Religious Corporation:    Yes
         
REGISTERED AGENT NAME: LEE EA, JAMES E


NOTE THAT THERE ARE/WERE OTHER NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH LOCATIONS IN TENNESSEE;
MAY OR NOT BE RELATED TO DILLS' GROUP:


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NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH OF THE KITUWAH NATION (Active)
TELLICO PLAINS, TN
REGISTERED AGENT NAME: SILVARAHAWK, REV ALDEA
http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000530131

NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH OF PEJUTA (PEYOTE) WAKAN (Dissolved by TN Scty of State)
MEMPHIS, TN
REGISTERED AGENT NAME: REYNOLDS, MS JUDY CREEK
http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000328211


SYSTEMS THEORIES AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC.
Dissolved by TN Secretary of State, 1992

http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000031348
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000031348: Corporation For-Profit - Domestic
 
Name:    SYSTEMS THEORIES AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC.
Old Name:    
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Dissolved (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    05/26/1977
Formed in:    Knox County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    December    AR Due Date:    04/01/1992
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    09/18/1992
Principal Office:    POB59,OSCAR ARMSTRON
STRAWBERRYPLAI, TN 378710000 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    POB59,OSCAR ARMSTRON
STRAWBERRYPLAI, TN 378710000 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Shares of Stock:    1,000

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A


TENNESSEE BANK OF CHEROKEES, INC. [sic]
was actually supposed to be Tennessee Band of Cherokees, Inc.
dissloved by TN Secretary of State, 1987


http://tnbear.tn.gov/ECommerce/Common/FilingDetail.aspx?FilingNum=000115873
Quote
Name:     TENNESSEE BANK OF CHEROKEES, INC.
Old Name:    
   
Business Type:    
Status:    Inactive - Dissolved (Administrative)    Initial Filing:    04/29/1982
Formed in:    Knox County    Delayed Effective Date:    
Fiscal Year Close:    April    AR Due Date:    08/01/1988
Term of Duration:    Perpetual    Inactive Date:    12/31/1987
Principal Office:    ROUTE 2
STRAWBERRY PLN, TN 378710000 USA

Annual Report
Mailing Address:    1801 JEFFERSON AVENU
KNOXVILLE, TN 379170000 USA
AR Exempt:    No
Shares of Stock:    0

REGISTERED AGENT NAME: HOTZ, WILLIAM A
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 12:16:47 pm by clearwater »

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2010, 10:48:02 pm »
DILLS' WEBSITES:

nativeamericanchurch.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/Nativeamericanchurch.com

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Registrant:
  Bill McKee
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US

  0z0m762747@nojunkemailaddress.com
   +1.4123257437

Domain Name: NATIVEAMERICANCHURCH.COM

Administrative & Technical Contact:
  Dr. PeSheWa
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US



indianreader.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/indianreader.com

Quote
Registrant:
  Bill McKee
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US

  0z0m762747@nojunkemailaddress.com
   +1.4123257437

Domain Name: INDIANREADER.COM

Administrative & Technical Contact:
  Dr. PeSheWa
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US




thesantaclaus.org

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/thesantaclaus.org

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Domain ID:D147908110-LROR
Domain Name:THESANTACLAUS.ORG
Created On:31-May-2007 06:08:58 UTC
Last Updated On:10-Jan-2010 04:23:59 UTC
Expiration Date:31-May-2012 06:08:58 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:pair Networks, Inc.d/b/a pairNIC (R103-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:BM81709
Registrant Name:Bill McKee
Registrant Street1:37210 Irish Lane
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Glade Spring
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:24340
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2764292181
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:0z0m762747@nojunkemailaddress.com
Admin ID:BM81709
Admin Name:Bill McKee
Admin Street1:37210 Irish Lane
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Glade Spring
Admin State/Province:VA
Admin Postal Code:24340
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2764292181
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:


neishtekiva.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/neishtekiva.com
    
Quote
Registrant:
  Bill McKee
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US

  0z0m762747@nojunkemailaddress.com
   +1.4123257437

Domain Name: NEISHTEKIVA.COM

Administrative & Technical Contact:
  Thomas Wilkinson
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US



beyondprophecy.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/beyondprophecy.com

[EDIT/CORRECTION:] There are two similar domains: beyondprophesy.com (not Dills website) and beyondprophecy.com (which is Dills' website). My first post of this information showed the incorrect domain. This has been corrected with my apologies. The correct information now follows.

Quote
Registrant:
  William B McKee
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US

  0z0m762747@nojunkemailaddress.com
   +1.4123257437

Domain Name: BEYONDPROPHECY.COM

Administrative & Technical Contact:
  Thomas Wilkinson
  c/o pairNIC.com Whois Privacy
  PO Box 42319
  Pittsburgh, PA 15203
  US
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 11:34:32 am by clearwater »

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2010, 03:49:37 pm »
9. If possible, is there a way to contact the widow?

Roger's wife at the time of his passing was named Renae. I have located a phone number for Renae which I phoned but that number is no longer valid. The last location where I knew they lived was near Sweetwater, TN. Perhaps someone reading this thread would know how to contact Renae? I will continue my search.

clearwater

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2010, 11:45:42 pm »
TO ALL: It is interesting to note that this thread is not in the google search results:

SEARCH FOR "PESHEWA" WITHIN NEWAGEFRAUD.ORG:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=MZk&q=peshewa+site%3Anewagefraud.org&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=

SEARCH OF "NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH" WITHIN NEWAGEFRAUD.ORG:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=native+american+church+site:newagefraud.org&start=0&sa=N

SEARCH OF "JERRY DILLS" WITHIN NEWAGEFRAUD.ORG:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Jerry+Dills+site%3Anewagefraud.org&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=

These links are google searches which limit the search to only this website.

Since the title of the thread is "Native American Chuch" and "Macaki Peshewa" and "Jerry Dills" is repeatedly mentioned in that thread, this thread should be the first result shown.

Dills is a weak and small man who has cloaked himself for decades in spiritual trappings. However, he has always made sure that he has powerful friends to surround himself with, and these include very powerful attorney friends.

I believe it is now time to elevate this matter to a higher level.

Enough bullshit, Jerry. Enough is enough.

clearwater


UPDATE Feb 7, 2010 Once I discovered the thread had been deleted from the google index, I filed documentation with google to have the link(s) reinstated. As of last week, the thread has been restored to the google index. Who can say what caued the thread to be removed then restored? Also, I should point out, that for about three weeks this thread was also removed from the Yahoo search engine, including Yahoo's cache of the link, but did not report that here as it was redundant. The link has also been restored to the Yahoo Index at this time. --clearwater
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 02:20:28 pm by clearwater »

Offline dabosijigwokush

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2010, 12:37:39 am »
a way to see if someone has passed

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

Offline dabosijigwokush

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2010, 12:42:38 am »
After the autopsy is finished, notes from the other findings (toxicology, histology, etc..) are compiled and a formal report is made. This is the report that is generally only available to immediate family members or lawyers if the death is involved in a legal case. A bunch of questions in the emails that people sent to me asked how they could get a hold of someone's autopsy report. My guess is that the actual law about this depends on the state, but most only allow immediate family members to view the autopsy report.

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2010, 01:13:04 am »
a way to see if someone has passed

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

I find this very odd that I am unable to locate any records regarding Kelley's death. As a test I searched my own father's death which was a few years later, and that is found. My grandmother who passed much earlier than that is also found.

I was there, this happened. This is very weird. Perhaps "Kelley" was a nickname?

As far as I am aware, there was no autopsy performed.

I will continue my search.

clearwater
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 01:15:11 am by clearwater »

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2010, 01:33:44 am »
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I find this very odd that I am unable to locate any records regarding Kelley's death. As a test I searched my own father's death which was a few years later, and that is found. My grandmother who passed much earlier than that is also found.

If he was only 19 when he died, he may not have registered with social security, and if he wasn't registered he wouldn't be found in the social security death index... .

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2010, 01:38:41 am »
RECORD FOUND:

GRAVES ROBERT K
DATE OF DEATH    03-13-1988
AGE 20
SHELBY COUNTY / TN
FILE # 10167

This was found in the Shelby Country TN Vital Records online search:

http://register.shelby.tn.us/index.php

[EDIT/UPDATE:] Note that the record of this death does NOT show up in the social security index.

I will order a copy of the Death Verification. Now that I have the date pinned down I will locate the paragraph that appears in the Memphis Commercial Appeal 1-2 days later. Once I have that I will scan it and post it here.

clearwater
« Last Edit: January 22, 2010, 11:16:41 pm by clearwater »

Offline clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2010, 03:22:30 am »
TO ALL: If anyone wishes at this time to step forward to defend the deeds of Jerry Neal Dills, now is the time to do so.

TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH (the real NAC, that is): If any members of the true NAC have words or thoughts regarding the matters presented in this thread, now is the time share them here.

Please make your posts now. This matter is about to be jacked to the next level. I will reveal what that means only once it is done.

Enough is enough.

clearwater

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Re: Native American church....?
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2010, 11:29:43 am »
Death Records

I find it strangely curious that two days after my post regarding finding a record of this death Shelby County, TN Vital Records website, that online search of this database has been disabled. Perhaps only coincidental? Perhaps a web design error?

Search Type: "Archive"
Tennessee Vital Records
Death Records Index 1949-2005

search is currently disabled as of the time-date stamp above for this NAFPS post
January 22, 2010 at 04:29:43 AM ... may be restored a later date?


http://register.shelby.tn.us/index.php

Now why would that be?

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Removal of this thread from google

I have researched google's process to remove information from google's index, and this website and this thread does not meet ANY of the requirements for removing indexed pages. From google's website:

Quote
Google's results to change, the information must first change on the site where it appears, and this is a change that Google's unable to make for you. We run into a lot of people who think that Google runs the Web and controls all the sites on it, but that's really not the case. The sites in Google's search results are controlled by those sites' webmasters.

If you contact the webmaster, he or she has a few options. He or she can remove the concerning information, take the page down from the Web entirely, or block Google from including the page in Google's index.

Once the webmaster makes a change, your work is done. The change will automatically show up in the search results once Google re-crawls the site.

In most cases, the only way to change a search result is for the webmaster to change the site itself. However, we may be able to help in a few cases including these:

Social security or credit card information in results
Adult content in results, when SafeSearch is enabled
Inappropriate images on our featured video results


This thread meets none of these requirements, and only the moderators can respond to if they have received a removal request.

Now, why then has this thread been removed from google?

It looks like someone's trying to play hardball?? We'll see I suppose...

clearwater


UPDATE Feb 7, 2010 As of today, the search feature for death records in Shelby County, TN is still disabled on that website. However, I have obtained the Death Certificate from Tennessee Vital Records, as well as the articles which appeared in the Memphis newspapers, and will be posting that next, within a day or so of this edit.  --clearwater
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 02:21:52 pm by clearwater »