Are these people for real??????

[Ranantanonnha]

Does anyone know any of these people and if they're legit?

I'm in the process of checking one of them out myself.

Jim Wellheiser

http://www.native-reenactors.ca/

http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/motivational_speaker.htm

http://cgi.bowesonline.com/pedro.php?id=25&x=story&xid=177653

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CA-ONT-CEMETERIES/2005-08/1123772465

http://historycomesalive.ca/canadians/jim.htm

http://www.historycomesalive.ca/canadians/images/jimpics.htm


David Morris

http://historycomesalive.ca/canadians/tecumseh.htm


Shannon Thunderbird
It took me almost an hour and a half to sift through this site. You've really got to have a look at it.

http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/Home.htm

http://www.storytellingtoronto.org/Directory_Pages/Dir_ShannonThunderbird.html


Barbara Butterfly Dreamer and John Thunder Wolf

http://www.blacklightning.on.ca/

[debbieredbear]

The last link, this one mentions "sweet medicine sundance". That is Harley "swift deer" r\Reagan's sex cul;t bunch. Definite frauds there. Can't say on the others. I don't have time to really look.

[Moma_porcupine]

There is a thread on Shannon Thunderbird here;

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=864.msg4530#msg4530

[educatedindian]

There's also already a thread on Wellheiser under Research Needed, titled Disco Ball.

[Ranantanonnha]

I guess I'm not the only one that thinks they're hokey. That disco ball thread has some pretty good stuff but some of the links didn't work.

There's got to be some way to stop people like that.

[dabosijigwokush]

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[dabosijigwokush]

blacklightning started in oct 7 2000

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[sox]

Well, Sandy Horne is quite famous in Canada as the ex-bassist of the Spoons in the 80's. Her other project is
http://www.myspace.com/crookedtrailband but I can't see where her Native connection comes in.

From MySpace page:

has toured Japan with Shannon Thunderbird and is a sweatlodge keeper near her home in Guelph Ontario.

One of the other members is Mohawk/Cayuga and another

Tiring of the media hype, Rick returned to his spiritual home of the Anishinaube

...and we pretty much know what that normally means...

sox

[Ranantanonnha]

I found out that Mr. Wellheiser has already been reprimanded by a few of our people here at Grand River (small world)! Apparently he is of German descent and claimed to have been "taught the ways of the Nez Perce" and his grandfather was an "adopted Mohawk" (that's a first for me lol). He was told that the Mohawk Nation at Grand River has naver had any formal adoptions.

[Skully]

Feh!