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Chikamaka Band: People of the Mountain

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Started by BlackWolf, June 26, 2010, 02:42:50 AM

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BlackWolf

I would like opinions on this group.  Aside from the controversial issue of "State Recognition", I'd like opinions on their alleged heritage, culture, cohesiveness as a "people distinct from others", history, and tribal membership criteria.

http://www.chikamakaband.com/COM/

QuoteThe Chikamaka People are descended from a confederacy united under Tsiyugunsini (Dragging Canoe) of warriors from several Nations. They united under a common goal of land preservation. This confederacy was made up primarily of Chikamaka, Creek, Cherokee, Shawnee, Catawba, Saponi, Mohawk, Delaware, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and their Tory allies. Most of these Tory allies were Scottish, Irish, or German.


There is also a link here for the video of the State and Local Goverment hearings in Tennessee on the State Recognition of Tribes there.  Click on the link at the bottom.
http://www.chikamakaband.com/COM/?page_id=556

educatedindian

There's some big problems with their claims. The confederacy they mention as the whole basis for their claims wasn't around for very long, and was made up of pre existing tribes. That would make them somewhat like the Seminole, except for one thing: the Seminoles' ancestors' tribes no longer existed, too shattered by warfare. All these tribes making up the Chikimaka did continue and still exist today.

So maybe their claim is that they are a mixed people of several tribes plus some whites like the Metis or even the Lumbee. Problem is, those peoples existed as a unit. Their whole claim is that the Chikamaka had to hide so deep underground that's why there's no record they can point to. That'd make them possibly descendants then. Really, how likely is there to be NO record? No churches they all went to? No influence on their dialect? No dances? No ceremony? No oral tradition beyond family stories of being part Indian? I didn't seen any of that mentioned in the search I did. If so, then that'd make them assimilated so totally as to be de facto culturally white.

Their founder James Meeks mentions in several articles being "1/3 to 1/2 Indian." 1/3?
https://decolonizingalternatehistory.substack.com/
https://nvcc.academia.edu/alcarroll
www.smashwords.com/profile/view/AlCarroll
www.lulu.com/spotlight/AlCaroll
www.amazon.com/Al-Carroll/e/B00IZ4FY1S
https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-carroll-05284613/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZL8KJKNfA