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#1
Non-Frauds / Re: Quora Answers
Last post by educatedindian - Today at 01:16:59 AMPhotos used are at the link.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-people-playing-pretendian-and-being-caught/answer/Al-Carroll-17
I would not call it playing since the frauds who do so do it as a way to make money, or in some cases build a cult and abuse huge numbers of people. The striking thing is many whites do not care if someone is exposed as a fraud. Their need to control and define Natives is what matters to them, no matter how false and/or racist those beliefs are.
Sam Morningstar already gave plenty of good examples and I will concentrate on others. The one example he mentioned I will add to is Ward Churchill. He was exposed as non Native by 1990 and every actual Native in academia knew it. Univ of Colorado was so eager to hire any supposed Native, they ignored usual vetting and hiring procedures, hired with only an MA, gave him tenure and quickly promoted him to dept head. Supposedly fired for his Little Eichmanns comment, he was really targeted for leftist views.
Except for Churchill, there never has been any such thing as being hired for being Native in academia. There is no Indian preference as in tribal govts and the BIA. Being hired based on race has been illegal since the Bakke decision in 1977.
Where it is a problem is when someone falsely claims to be speaking as an insider. On that count the most notorious academic fraud was actually by a non Native, Carlos Castaneda, falsely claiming to have been taught by a Yaqui holy man, the fictional Don Juan. Never happened, and Castaneda plagiarized his books from Taoist, Buddhist, and Hindu writings. Despite him being debunked USC refused to revoke his PhD and still makes a fortune from selling his books as nonfiction.
The best known debunking of Castaneda
Castaneda books continue to be so popular and influential that one of the most famous fictional characters of all time is based on Don Juan. George Lucas fell for the hoax.
Starting with Castaneda, the worst, most destructive, and most money making frauds all came from the New Age movement and so called neo shamanism, more accurately pseudo shamanism. The worst of them do what con artists call letting the mark in on the con. Admit you are lying and cheating, get the victim to see the con along with you.
The most obvious example is Harley Raper AKA Harley Reagan AKA Swiftdeer. An actual red haired Irishman passing himself off as Cherokee and Mayan, claiming to speak telepathically and across time with a crystal skull named Max.
Start with the obvious. Nothing in that photo is either Cherokee or Mayan. He also claimed to be ex CIA, ex Special Forces, ex Olympic athlete, ex Mormon who went through a non existent Mormon exorcism, and creator of a phony martial arts but somehow also a survivor of being raped in prison.
He also would sell you a fraudulent Cherokee Sex Ceremony for $2000. Sorry to be offensive, but this involved groups of people masturbating together, anally, with objects. That was not all. Sexual assault was made part of these phony ceremonies, with groups of men urged to assault women. They also hire prostitutes and bring drug use into faux ceremony.
He also claimed it was Cherokee tradition for grandparents to commit incest with their grandkids. Naturally this attracted pedophiles. The fake sex ceremony attracted both abusers and abuse survivors wanting to believe it was not abuse, and other very desperate and abusive people. Guess who else was fooled by Harley Reagan?
After protests from Cherokee Nation President Wilma Mankiller, HBO was forced to apologize to avoid a lawsuit.
To top it off, and not surprisingly, Harley Reagan was a deeply racist militia leader. He trained his followers to prepare for a race war against Latinos. Follow this if you can: A white racist posing as Cherokee and Mayan prepared his all white cult who believed they were learning Native spirituality to train with guns and his phony version of martial arts...to fight Latinos who actually are Native or have Native ancestry.
Reagan also was a phony martial artist. The good people at Bullshido have documented how ridiculous his claims are.
Who could be naive enough to believe he was supposedly Native?
He also told his followers to overthrow the US govt in 2000 if Al Gore won the election. His so called Deer Tribe is still around after his early death and claims 3000 members in the US and Europe.
Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=528.0
Just as ridiculous and dangerous was Leonard Mattern AKA Buck Ghosthorse. An actual white KKK terrorist from Pennsylvania posing as Lakota medicine man with a cult in Washington state.
Doesnt he look reel spirchul?
Terrorist is not hyperbole. After 14 years in the Klan he was part of the Christian Patriots Defense League for 6 years, an Illinois militia preparing for race war. CPDL and KKK often got in violent confrontations.
Mattern has a long history of killing followers with his incompetence. An elderly woman was burned to death, and others died in fake ceremonies. Mattern also toured colleges spreading his lies and ran fundraising scams to support his cult. The fraud was so profitable they purchased 150 acres. One member of the cult was accused of abusing women.
The Hawkwind Earth Renewal Cooperative that his cult began as part of has ties to some other frauds. "Mary Thunder" endorses them as allies. Also Charla Thomas/Tarwater of the Bear Tribe cult. She co founded HERC along with "Reverend" Charla Herman, who ran an alchemy academy.
The cult continues with Paul Sahayda as their leader.
Buck Ghosthorse (Leonard Albert Mattern)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3760.0
Even worse is Dwight York AKA Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle AKA Rabboni Y'shua Bar El Haady.
Yes, those are all him. At different times he claimed to be a pharaoh, a Native chief, a caliph who was supposed to take nothing less than the place of the prophet Mohammed, and an actual space alien. Faux Muslim, faux Jewish, faux Native, faux Egyptian, but definitely Black supremacist sovereign citizen militia. York holds the ugly distinction of being convicted of the most counts of child molesting and child rape in history, more than 110.
His Nuwaubian cult, sometimes called Yamassees, ran protection rackets, theme parks, and a record label with hip hop groups Force MDs and Stetsasonic. They claimed 5,000 members and had cult compounds in Brooklyn and near Atlanta. Members were forbidden to be with their wives unless they had met quotas for donations or work. But York is believed to have fathered over 100 children.
Of course no one ever believed his claims of being Egyptian, Native, Muslim, or an alien except his cult members. He was denounced by civil rights groups, Muslim clerics, and of course Natives. All of which convinced his followers he was being persecuted by white devils.
United Nuwaubian Nation of Muurs or Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles W Leader Jailed
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0
There are many, many more examples I could point to. Most imposters are very easily found out. Indian Country is a small place. Most rezzes have 3,000–5,000 people, like a small town. When someone makes a claim it is easy to ask around and see if they are full of it. And sometimes them being phony is literally as easy as spotting the bad tanning makeup on their face, or that they failed to put it on their pale arms.
That is Brooke Edwards AKA Medicine Eagle, obvious phony for the past 40 years. Notice the hairline has a different color than the rest of her skin. She also used to post a phony tribal certificate obviously made at Kinkos when they were still around.
This is John Allen Hill AKA John Two Hawks, a phony posing as a Lakota musician. So clumsy a fraud you can see his hairline has a different shade even on his official bio page.
He fooled a Finnish metal band called Nightwish into doing a song with him. Then he was dumb enough to sing in gibberish that sounded nothing like Lakota. He also tried to pass off New Age and Hollywood Indian beliefs as Native. Again, Nightwish could have avoided embarrassment simply by noticing the obvious makeup. To their credit, they publicly apologized and removed Hill from their videos.
There are literally hundreds more examples like this. Why do we at NAFPS keep doing this for over 25 years now if the victims keep being victimized, and often defend their victimizers? Because most people can be reached. Most people can avoid being taken in if they just ask or go with their instincts and stay away and warn others if it feels off or odd
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-people-playing-pretendian-and-being-caught/answer/Al-Carroll-17
I would not call it playing since the frauds who do so do it as a way to make money, or in some cases build a cult and abuse huge numbers of people. The striking thing is many whites do not care if someone is exposed as a fraud. Their need to control and define Natives is what matters to them, no matter how false and/or racist those beliefs are.
Sam Morningstar already gave plenty of good examples and I will concentrate on others. The one example he mentioned I will add to is Ward Churchill. He was exposed as non Native by 1990 and every actual Native in academia knew it. Univ of Colorado was so eager to hire any supposed Native, they ignored usual vetting and hiring procedures, hired with only an MA, gave him tenure and quickly promoted him to dept head. Supposedly fired for his Little Eichmanns comment, he was really targeted for leftist views.
Except for Churchill, there never has been any such thing as being hired for being Native in academia. There is no Indian preference as in tribal govts and the BIA. Being hired based on race has been illegal since the Bakke decision in 1977.
Where it is a problem is when someone falsely claims to be speaking as an insider. On that count the most notorious academic fraud was actually by a non Native, Carlos Castaneda, falsely claiming to have been taught by a Yaqui holy man, the fictional Don Juan. Never happened, and Castaneda plagiarized his books from Taoist, Buddhist, and Hindu writings. Despite him being debunked USC refused to revoke his PhD and still makes a fortune from selling his books as nonfiction.
The best known debunking of Castaneda
Castaneda books continue to be so popular and influential that one of the most famous fictional characters of all time is based on Don Juan. George Lucas fell for the hoax.
Starting with Castaneda, the worst, most destructive, and most money making frauds all came from the New Age movement and so called neo shamanism, more accurately pseudo shamanism. The worst of them do what con artists call letting the mark in on the con. Admit you are lying and cheating, get the victim to see the con along with you.
The most obvious example is Harley Raper AKA Harley Reagan AKA Swiftdeer. An actual red haired Irishman passing himself off as Cherokee and Mayan, claiming to speak telepathically and across time with a crystal skull named Max.
Start with the obvious. Nothing in that photo is either Cherokee or Mayan. He also claimed to be ex CIA, ex Special Forces, ex Olympic athlete, ex Mormon who went through a non existent Mormon exorcism, and creator of a phony martial arts but somehow also a survivor of being raped in prison.
He also would sell you a fraudulent Cherokee Sex Ceremony for $2000. Sorry to be offensive, but this involved groups of people masturbating together, anally, with objects. That was not all. Sexual assault was made part of these phony ceremonies, with groups of men urged to assault women. They also hire prostitutes and bring drug use into faux ceremony.
He also claimed it was Cherokee tradition for grandparents to commit incest with their grandkids. Naturally this attracted pedophiles. The fake sex ceremony attracted both abusers and abuse survivors wanting to believe it was not abuse, and other very desperate and abusive people. Guess who else was fooled by Harley Reagan?
After protests from Cherokee Nation President Wilma Mankiller, HBO was forced to apologize to avoid a lawsuit.
To top it off, and not surprisingly, Harley Reagan was a deeply racist militia leader. He trained his followers to prepare for a race war against Latinos. Follow this if you can: A white racist posing as Cherokee and Mayan prepared his all white cult who believed they were learning Native spirituality to train with guns and his phony version of martial arts...to fight Latinos who actually are Native or have Native ancestry.
Reagan also was a phony martial artist. The good people at Bullshido have documented how ridiculous his claims are.
Who could be naive enough to believe he was supposedly Native?
He also told his followers to overthrow the US govt in 2000 if Al Gore won the election. His so called Deer Tribe is still around after his early death and claims 3000 members in the US and Europe.
Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=528.0
Just as ridiculous and dangerous was Leonard Mattern AKA Buck Ghosthorse. An actual white KKK terrorist from Pennsylvania posing as Lakota medicine man with a cult in Washington state.
Doesnt he look reel spirchul?
Terrorist is not hyperbole. After 14 years in the Klan he was part of the Christian Patriots Defense League for 6 years, an Illinois militia preparing for race war. CPDL and KKK often got in violent confrontations.
Mattern has a long history of killing followers with his incompetence. An elderly woman was burned to death, and others died in fake ceremonies. Mattern also toured colleges spreading his lies and ran fundraising scams to support his cult. The fraud was so profitable they purchased 150 acres. One member of the cult was accused of abusing women.
The Hawkwind Earth Renewal Cooperative that his cult began as part of has ties to some other frauds. "Mary Thunder" endorses them as allies. Also Charla Thomas/Tarwater of the Bear Tribe cult. She co founded HERC along with "Reverend" Charla Herman, who ran an alchemy academy.
The cult continues with Paul Sahayda as their leader.
Buck Ghosthorse (Leonard Albert Mattern)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3760.0
Even worse is Dwight York AKA Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle AKA Rabboni Y'shua Bar El Haady.
Yes, those are all him. At different times he claimed to be a pharaoh, a Native chief, a caliph who was supposed to take nothing less than the place of the prophet Mohammed, and an actual space alien. Faux Muslim, faux Jewish, faux Native, faux Egyptian, but definitely Black supremacist sovereign citizen militia. York holds the ugly distinction of being convicted of the most counts of child molesting and child rape in history, more than 110.
His Nuwaubian cult, sometimes called Yamassees, ran protection rackets, theme parks, and a record label with hip hop groups Force MDs and Stetsasonic. They claimed 5,000 members and had cult compounds in Brooklyn and near Atlanta. Members were forbidden to be with their wives unless they had met quotas for donations or work. But York is believed to have fathered over 100 children.
Of course no one ever believed his claims of being Egyptian, Native, Muslim, or an alien except his cult members. He was denounced by civil rights groups, Muslim clerics, and of course Natives. All of which convinced his followers he was being persecuted by white devils.
United Nuwaubian Nation of Muurs or Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles W Leader Jailed
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0
There are many, many more examples I could point to. Most imposters are very easily found out. Indian Country is a small place. Most rezzes have 3,000–5,000 people, like a small town. When someone makes a claim it is easy to ask around and see if they are full of it. And sometimes them being phony is literally as easy as spotting the bad tanning makeup on their face, or that they failed to put it on their pale arms.
That is Brooke Edwards AKA Medicine Eagle, obvious phony for the past 40 years. Notice the hairline has a different color than the rest of her skin. She also used to post a phony tribal certificate obviously made at Kinkos when they were still around.
This is John Allen Hill AKA John Two Hawks, a phony posing as a Lakota musician. So clumsy a fraud you can see his hairline has a different shade even on his official bio page.
He fooled a Finnish metal band called Nightwish into doing a song with him. Then he was dumb enough to sing in gibberish that sounded nothing like Lakota. He also tried to pass off New Age and Hollywood Indian beliefs as Native. Again, Nightwish could have avoided embarrassment simply by noticing the obvious makeup. To their credit, they publicly apologized and removed Hill from their videos.
There are literally hundreds more examples like this. Why do we at NAFPS keep doing this for over 25 years now if the victims keep being victimized, and often defend their victimizers? Because most people can be reached. Most people can avoid being taken in if they just ask or go with their instincts and stay away and warn others if it feels off or odd
#2
Computer Issues / Re: Security Certificate?
Last post by Sparks - September 02, 2026, 05:48:18 PMSome of my browsers have told me for years that http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php
is not secure because there is no 'https' in the URL. One example:
Is it possible to change that?
is not secure because there is no 'https' in the URL. One example:
QuoteHTTPS-Only Mode Alert
Secure Site Not Available
You've enabled HTTPS-Only Mode for enhanced security, and a HTTPS version of www.newagefraud.org is not available.
Learn More...
What could be causing this?
Most likely, the website simply does not support HTTPS.
It's also possible that an attacker is involved. If you decide to visit the website, you should not enter any sensitive information like passwords, emails, or credit card details.
If you continue, HTTPS-Only Mode will be turned off temporarily for this site.
Is it possible to change that?
#3
Computer Issues / Security Certificate?
Last post by Juliet - September 02, 2026, 12:05:05 AMI attempted to log in from Google Chrome, and Bitdefender told me the security certificate did not match.
#4
Frauds / Re: Thomas Robert Wiggers AKA ...
Last post by Sandy S - August 24, 2026, 10:03:46 PMThomas Robert Wigger's "Thomas Whitefeather" most recent video on Facebook is no longer available. I wonder if it was taken down because he repeatedly falsely claimed that a specific woman is his wife, repeating her full actual name.
In a 2003 Milton, Florida court record he was noted as having a "right arm tribal knife" tattoo. I don't know if he still does.
I've uploaded here part of a photo from a 2025 event in Wenatchee, WA (World photo/Jenni Rodas May 5, 2025). Note his staff and that he is smudging someone.
In a 2003 Milton, Florida court record he was noted as having a "right arm tribal knife" tattoo. I don't know if he still does.
I've uploaded here part of a photo from a 2025 event in Wenatchee, WA (World photo/Jenni Rodas May 5, 2025). Note his staff and that he is smudging someone.
#5
Etcetera / Re: Not legitimately Cherokee
Last post by Sparks - August 23, 2026, 04:39:25 AMThere is also another topic with the same name and the same starting point as the present topic:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2279.0 [Not legitimately Cherokee]
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2279.0 [Not legitimately Cherokee]
#6
Etcetera / Re: Not legitimately Cherokee
Last post by Sparks - August 23, 2026, 04:02:29 AMQuote from: flyaway on May 15, 2010, 08:35:16 PMNot legitimately Cherokee Published: Tuesday, June 30, 2009
No link given. The quoted article is available here:
https://eu.gadsdentimes.com/story/news/2009/06/30/not-legitimately-cherokee/32184039007/
There is a parallel topic with many more posts:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2376.0 [Cherokees of Alabama]
I am researching recent developments and will post in that thread within a few days.
#7
Frauds / Re: Manataka??
Last post by Diana - August 22, 2026, 11:55:39 PMI don't remember if anyone has researched Randy Lee Moore's genealogy..?? It's been a while since anyone gave this post or person any thought. I did a quick look-see and got as far as the 1860s, everyone is white. He has deep roots in Arkansas and the south. Let me know if we should post an in depth genealogy, I wouldn't mind exposing this creepy fraud
#8
Frauds / Lyndreth Hemp Wall of Ute Moun...
Last post by Sparks - August 22, 2026, 12:05:01 AMhttps://nativenewsonline.net/currents/former-tribal-councilman-and-fraudulent-ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-multiple-counts-of-sexual-assault/
Similar reports at several other news outlets:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-co/pr/ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man-sentenced-life-prison-after-multiple-sex-assault
https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2026/08/21/news/former-tribal-councilman-and-fraudulent-ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-multiple-counts-of-sexual-assault/142328.html
https://www.ksjd.org/podcast/ksjd-local-newscasts/2026-08-19/former-ute-mountain-ute-tribal-councilman-is-sentenced-to-life-in-prison
https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/news/former-ute-mountain-ute-councilman-sentenced-to-life-imprisonment-after-sexual-abuse-conviction/
https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/life-in-prison-for-ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man/article_b08095b7-055f-48f8-a7a9-525ca0451738.html
QuoteOverview:
A former tribal council member who presented himself as a spiritual healer was sentenced for sexual crimes spanning at least 12 years.
Lyndreth Hemp Wall, 60, a former tribal councilman of the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, on Tuesday, August 18, was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted on 15 counts of sexual abuse in Indian Country and abusive sexual contact in Indian Country. Wall's crimes involved five victims, including a minor.
Wall was elected to the Ute Mountain Ute Tribal Council in 2020 and is a former school board member in Montezuma-Cortez School District Re-1. He presented himself as a traditional Native American healer, sometimes referred to in some tribes as a "medicine man," according to trial documents.
For at least 12 years, Wall sexually exploited multiple women on the Ute Mountain Ute Reservation under the guise of spiritual treatment. Survivors reported that he created an elaborate ruse by using traditional elements of Ute healing to trick his victims into believing his actions were part of a healing ceremony. During his "ceremonies," Wall isolated victims alone and touched them sexually for his own gratification. Wall told multiple victims that, if they told anyone about his sexual touching, the healing would not work.
Similar reports at several other news outlets:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-co/pr/ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man-sentenced-life-prison-after-multiple-sex-assault
https://www.redlakenationnews.com/story/2026/08/21/news/former-tribal-councilman-and-fraudulent-ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-multiple-counts-of-sexual-assault/142328.html
https://www.ksjd.org/podcast/ksjd-local-newscasts/2026-08-19/former-ute-mountain-ute-tribal-councilman-is-sentenced-to-life-in-prison
https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/news/former-ute-mountain-ute-councilman-sentenced-to-life-imprisonment-after-sexual-abuse-conviction/
https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/life-in-prison-for-ute-mountain-ute-medicine-man/article_b08095b7-055f-48f8-a7a9-525ca0451738.html
#9
Frauds / Re: Thomas Robert Wiggers AKA ...
Last post by Sandy S - August 20, 2026, 05:07:35 PMThese quotes are from a past social media discussion among women in Eastern Washington:
QuoteDr Thomas Whitefeather is not my husband and has been asked to stay away from me and my family. He was told to leave last year and is telling people he was given permission to go on a walk about. He was kicked out. Please do not encourage him to contact me or my family.
QuoteUgh that guy ! He better not come back up here !
QuoteHe is not welcome up here in the North, sorry ya have to go thru this...
Quote...someone who claims to have a law degree would know what stalking is. I have known xxxx for many years and know of her struggles to separate herself from this man. If he truly cares about xxxx, he needs to go away and leave her alone. Let her continue her awesome journey without stress and constant harassment from him.
#10
Frauds / Re: Red Nation of the Cherokee
Last post by KellyBrown - August 19, 2026, 05:26:52 AMOver the years, I have encountered a number of stories and claims associated with Kathleen ShaunaSay WhiteFeather Franklin Gardner that I personally found difficult to reconcile. Some accounts appeared to change over time, leading me to question their accuracy and consistency.
Public reporting has noted that Kathleen ShaunaSay WhiteFeather Gardner, originally from North Carolina, became an Australian citizen after relocating to Orange, NSW. https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/7095933/this-harley-davidson-riding-retiree-from-north-carolina-is-now-an-aussie/
My concerns are not about any one event, but rather about what I perceive as a pattern of contradictions that left me confused and searching for clarity. As with any situation involving personal histories and relationships, it is important to distinguish between verified facts, personal recollections, and individual interpretations.
I believe that transparency and accountability matter, particularly when public narratives are being shared. At the same time, everyone deserves the opportunity to respond to criticism and to have claims about them evaluated based on evidence rather than rumors.
Ultimately, this experience has reinforced for me the importance of asking questions, verifying information, and approaching extraordinary stories with healthy skepticism when it comes to do anything with her. She is not a mentally stable individual.
Scott also told everyone in Australia he was going to meet his twin sister, mind you Kathleen is 10 yrs older than Scott and Scott actually met his birth mother in 1990. So, you can imagine the confusion when Scott then introduced her to even his boss and work collegues as his fiancé. This is one of many discrepancies that come with Kathleen or ShaunaSay not to mentioning being very abusive and narcisstic and loves to make everything about herself. None of her stories ever added up, always talking about Uncle Cucumber, Nancy Ward, Black Water Annie... personally. I also investigated and found out that before she left the states she declared herself bankrupt. I guess Scott's money would help her out with that in his passing.
Public reporting has noted that Kathleen ShaunaSay WhiteFeather Gardner, originally from North Carolina, became an Australian citizen after relocating to Orange, NSW. https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/7095933/this-harley-davidson-riding-retiree-from-north-carolina-is-now-an-aussie/
My concerns are not about any one event, but rather about what I perceive as a pattern of contradictions that left me confused and searching for clarity. As with any situation involving personal histories and relationships, it is important to distinguish between verified facts, personal recollections, and individual interpretations.
I believe that transparency and accountability matter, particularly when public narratives are being shared. At the same time, everyone deserves the opportunity to respond to criticism and to have claims about them evaluated based on evidence rather than rumors.
Ultimately, this experience has reinforced for me the importance of asking questions, verifying information, and approaching extraordinary stories with healthy skepticism when it comes to do anything with her. She is not a mentally stable individual.
Scott also told everyone in Australia he was going to meet his twin sister, mind you Kathleen is 10 yrs older than Scott and Scott actually met his birth mother in 1990. So, you can imagine the confusion when Scott then introduced her to even his boss and work collegues as his fiancé. This is one of many discrepancies that come with Kathleen or ShaunaSay not to mentioning being very abusive and narcisstic and loves to make everything about herself. None of her stories ever added up, always talking about Uncle Cucumber, Nancy Ward, Black Water Annie... personally. I also investigated and found out that before she left the states she declared herself bankrupt. I guess Scott's money would help her out with that in his passing.