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Serle Lovell Chapman aka Rain Bear Stands Last, claims Romani, MMIW Filmmaker
Laurel:
Oh good! I disabled java to get the text, meaning I couldn't copy the photo.
Defend the Sacred:
He has a business leading tours of Reservations and, if I'm reading this right, sacred sites, to anyone with the money to pay. The wording is careful, but it's clearly spiritual tourism and pay to pray is heavily implied.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/go-native-america-billings
https://www.gonativeamerica.com/
"What we do
We take you traveling like an insider with Native American guides, visiting the areas where tribal cultures were formed and history was made. You'll learn by experience - meeting Native people, hearing their stories as handed down through generations and witnessing true tribal lifeways.
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How we do it
By curating special journeys based on connections . . .
meet Medicine people, powwow dancers, storykeepers, culture-holders tribal historians and dreamers. We offer you the chance to immerse yourself in the indigenous philosophy embodied by "Mitakuye Oyasin" - All My Relations.
?Where you will go
You will visit reservations, cultural sites, historic hotspots and original homelands that are now designated as National Parks. It's a unique chance to visit places that hold tribal stories - the secrets that most tourists miss.
Why it works
. . . because we create the connections you can’t make for yourself.
People travel with us because they want to go places they can’t access alone, meet people they would never otherwise meet, and get an insider’s understanding of cultural, historic or spiritual matters that's off limits to the average tourist."
Bahesmama:
--- Quote from: cellophane on January 06, 2022, 07:05:47 pm ---A Google search shows nothing of him under that name before 2014. In 2015 he appears as a co-founder of "Guardians of Our Ancestral Legacy" (GOAL).
https://wyofile.com/tribal-alliance-fights-to-maintain-yellowstone-grizzly-protections/
The webpage for goaltribal.org appears to empty throughout its existence, since 2014.
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Yes, we found that his real name is Serle Lovell Chapman, an Englishman from Yorkshire. Also, his Romani claims appear suspect. We did his family tree and had a Romani researcher look at it and no dice.
educatedindian:
--- Quote from: Defend the Sacred on January 20, 2022, 08:27:15 pm ---He has a business leading tours of Reservations and, if I'm reading this right, sacred sites, to anyone with the money to pay. The wording is careful, but it's clearly spiritual tourism and pay to pray is heavily implied.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/go-native-america-billings
https://www.gonativeamerica.com/
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At "Our Ethics." Bolding is mine.
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Perpetual questions: Can I go in a sweat lodge, can I participate in a Sundance? Can I do a vision quest? And ironically folks often cite the desire to adhere to tradition and etiquette which leads them on their own personal Red Road.
Go Native America is not part of the tribal warrior societies that have the burden of ‘policing’ these kinds of ceremonial abrogation, and the arduous responsibility of stopping bogus ceremonies is not ours to shoulder. However in support of the wishes of Elders and ceremonial people across the continent, let’s be clear that no-one on an Go Native America journey will ever participate in ceremony of any kind as part of their tour with us.
Think of it like this: Meaningful, traditional and powerful ceremonies were given by the Creator to particular Peoples, and are their responsibility to conduct.
Ceremonies take time, understanding and long-term preparation.
They are NEVER a vacation activity.
Anyone who is telling you otherwise is not being fair to you, or to the indigenous people to whom the right and responsibility to fulfill those ceremonies was given.
RedRightHand:
--- Quote from: educatedindian on January 22, 2022, 02:54:15 pm ---"Our Ethics."
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Lots of exploiters are smart enough to include these disclaimers in the fine print. Whereas on the first page, all the text about access to "secrets" and "authentic lifeways" is what is featured. The guy is a chronic liar. I believe what's on the front page. He's making a living misrepresenting himself. Though on the Yelp reviews it seems people who've signed up for tours have been ripped off and ghosted, so, I guess there's that.
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