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Diana:
Heavy sigh, when you can measure your Indian blood on a head of a pin you ain't Indian.

Lim lemtsh,

Diana

Advanced Smite:

--- Quote from: Waubizee on January 10, 2023, 06:04:30 pm ---Tansi, Anin. I know Siobhan Marks and Mark Denning personally. I was Siobhan's sponsor to enter the Three Fires Midewiwin Lodge some years ago. The Three Fires Midewiwin Lodge does not accept petitions to enter the Midewiwin Lodge from individuals who do not have Indigenous ancestry. As her sponsor, I needed to ensure for myself that Siobhan does indeed have Anishinabe ancestry: she provided me with more than enough documentation to confirm it. I will add that I have a research background (PhD) and am more than capable of checking the veracity of her documentation. Personally, I am a Cree-Icelandic status Indian of  Fisher River Cree Nation, Manitoba. I support the current movement to expose 'pretendians' etc., we have had a few very high profile Indigenous race-shifters in Canada over the last few years, Burassa, Boydon, Turpell-Lafond, Lovelace, etc. all accomplished individuals in their own right who chose to embellish or create a fraudulent Indigenous identity. However, it seems to me that the movement can make mistakes, and its validity will be whether we are willing and able to correct it when individuals are wrongly targeted. I want to add that I found the hateful comments made about Marks (over and above commentary on her Indigenous identity) on this site reflect more poorly on the writer than it does on Siobhan.
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Waubizee - I'm relieved to hear that Siobhan Marks may be Anishinaabe (an LCO descendant). While I can't speak for everyone on this thread, I feel like most NAFPS users would prefer to be proven wrong. My understanding is that NAFPS will move a thread from "Research Needed" to "Non Frauds" with supporting documentation. I'd be willing to compile and post supporting documentation related to genealogy if you point me to the correct ancestor. I understand if you're planning to post the documentation yourself though.

WINative:
I think it would put closure on the subject since Siobhan Marks family tree was compiled on here going five generations back and no Native/Indian ancestors were found on any of the records, and this has been posted almost 2 years.
No one has yet posted any documentation or disputed the information found here. If you or she can provide documentation that would help this issue. Most Native people have no problem talking about their Native family history or lineage or providing proof if requested, which from my understanding, Siobhan Marks has never done for anyone. She did not come from a Native community or connect with one until her 50s.
It does help if she has some Native blood, but even a vast amount and being enrolled would not justify her actions in becoming a Native culture expert in just over 12 years and running roughshod over community members who stand in her way of what she desires.

Waubizee:
I wrote this to the moderator last year, but was having difficulty figuring out how to post. I have copies of all the genealogical information on Siobhan. Yes, I am quite aware that she did not grow up with a strong Anishinaabe identity or connections to LCO, but was able to confirm she has Anishinaabe ancestry (in the late 1800s, which is much more current than many of the claims others are making to ancestry that go back to the 1600s).  I don't regard Siobhan as a "cultural expert" and have never seen her "ride roughshod" against anyone. Even if she does/did, that does not negate her rightful claim to having Anishinaabe ancestry, I know/have known quite a few Anishinaabe people with public profiles with whom I disagree on their presentation/teaching-perspectives/treatment of others, but I wouldn't use my personal opinion of them to question their lineage. It is up to the Anishinaabe community who look to her to decide whether or not they respect her contributions to their cultural initiatives, is it not? Also, Siobhan and Mark do a lot of work together as a couple, and I've yet to hear that anyone questions Mark's legitimacy as a culturally-knowledgable person.
 
From: Rainey Gaywish <raineygaywish16@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Siobhan Marks: re: "research needed" on her claim to Ojibway ancestry
Date: January 9, 2022 at 3:16:54 PM CST
To: naf ps <nafps_13@yahoo.com>

I read everything you posted about Siobhan. I don’t know who did the genealogy that you have on the site. Did the research I sent to you show up in the email (as links)? If so, you would see her actual ancestry research, which differs from the research you have on the site. Please confirm whether you were able to see the documentation that I included in my earlier email, and whether you reviewed it against what you have on the site. You listed her profile as “research needed” which I have sent to you.

Just to review, on your site, you have her and her mother correctly listed. Her maternal grand parents are Frank Smith, her maternal grandmother is Ann Jane Wright.

From there, the information on your site then notes her maternal great grandparents as as Samuel G. Smith and Adella Jones. These MAY be her paternal great grandparents, Frank Smith’s parents. Her maternal great grandmother was Ann Jane Wright, and HER parents were Samuel Wright and Mary Diamond Wright. Mary Diamond Wright’s parents were Benjamin Desmeules Diamond and Angeline Corbine. Angeline Corbine’s mother was Madeline Baptiste Corbine. 

To correct:
Her maternal great grandparents were NOT Samuel G. Smith and Adella Jones. They  were Benjamin Desmeules Diamond and Angeline Corbine.

If the person(s) who did the research is interested in correcting genealogical errors, and correcting the misinformation on your website, please let me know.

I assume that you are interested in accuracy on your webpage, and if so, I am providing information to correct what you have currently on the site concerning Siobhan Marks.

Ekosi, Migwetch,
Rainey Gaywish

Defend the Sacred:
Hi Waubizee, I'm so sorry you've had trouble getting through. We've had a lot of problems with forum functions over the past year or so. I'm talking to another admin now and we never saw your message. We're looking into this now and hopefully we can clear some of this up.

For myself, I'd like to re-iterate that the priority here is honesty and transparency, no matter what the records show. And no matter what opinions anyone here has about how those records should be interpreted, any conclusions about what they mean lie with the Indigenous community in question. It's their call whether or not to claim someone, and what standards they set for that. It's not the call of anyone from outside that community.


--- Quote from: Waubizee on January 12, 2023, 03:31:28 pm ---I wrote this to the moderator last year, but was having difficulty figuring out how to post. I have copies of all the genealogical information on Siobhan. Yes, I am quite aware that she did not grow up with a strong Anishinaabe identity or connections to LCO, but was able to confirm she has Anishinaabe ancestry (in the late 1800s, which is much more current than many of the claims others are making to ancestry that go back to the 1600s). 

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