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Ah, right, "juztme" you're the person who posted all that argumentative UFO stuff, even after we told you this is not the place for it.
In the UFO/Ayahuasca thread you started, we asked you to have the courtesy to go to the Member Introductions section and introduce yourself. You have not done so. We also asked you to read the information that all new members are required to read. I'm getting the sense you either did not, or did not absorb it, or don't care what the parameters of this board are.
Specifically, you have been told that NAFPS is against Pay-to-Pray, and that you need to read the threads about Ayahuasca (and other entheogen) tourism. Again, I'm getting the sense you have not done this.
We are not going to do the heavy lifting for you if you can't be bothered to do this basic work. We are not going to argue with you on an exploitative case by exploitative case basis about every one of these events you find.
The event you linked to, with stuff like,
"Apply the shamanic education offered by indigenous people to your life as a cosmopolitan person in the modern world."
is clearly exploitative of Indigenous peoples, their lifeways, and the plants they work with. It is not the business of "cosmopolitan person"s to buy and sell these things. It is not the business of people from outside their tribes to be representing these lifeways and trying to speak for the people.
I've also had enough of juztme's temper tantrams. We really don't need your whiny and demanding white entitlements.
Hey I thought I was the only one up at this time of the morning! Actually I haven't been to bed yet, just got back around 1:00 am from playing bingo tonight. It's 3:00 out west here.
Lim lemtsh,
Diana
You might also want to look up the psychological concept of Projection.
I bet yur not even native. What ever Native there was done gone looonnng ago. Now you sound like bitter racists.
But I tell you this fools. I have nothin gainst white but i am what they call mixed race--part english part african. Unless of course 'whitey' means ANYONE not part of your precious tribe?
the attitude here is sad sad sad. Actually it is the antipode of my cheerful, friendly, reaching out to others to openly explore. I find you similar to the dealings I have had with people/groups at various forums who think themselves supporting science, when really they are in the cult of scientism. They too are rule-bound, and hostile, argumentative, mod-heavy, and obnoxious, and anti-entheogens, or anything which threatens their stifling claustrophobic worldviews.
Of COURSE I dont presume ALL native peoples are like the ones in my face here if YOU are what you claim to be...achem. I mean how would I know 8)
In that first UFO thread IF it had been allowed to breathe and wasn't pounced and and bolted locked by locksmith-Annie-whatever-her-name, then we could have adjusted, in a flexible way to EXPLORE things. Not be all tribal and closed off. How the hell in this world is THAT gonna work? Instead of callin people 'whitey' which is racist, or nigga, or whatever, there should be a reachin out. An openness, or its just paranoia, fear, hate, and what is going on here right now.
I had asked an innocent questions but get attacked and then I am scapegoat. typical. See what you do ::)
Patronizing, racist, entitled, verbally abusive trolls get banned. Sorry, but we're not your playpen or your mud-wrestling pit.
But thank you for the display of entitlement and aggression. You have demonstrated once again why NDNs have every right to be suspicious of outsiders, especially those who come from across the water demanding access to all their cultural knowledge.
I realize you are disappointed that no one here told you what you want to hear in your quest for drugs and "exotic" experiences. This is not your tourist stop, and I think you'll be happier when you learn to treat people with more respect.
You met with hostility not because you were "friendly," but because you decided you didn't have to educate yourself about the intention of the forum, or even introduce yourself after more than one polite request to do so. If I came into your house without asking and told you how crappy your decor was and shat on the carpet repeatedly after having been respectfully asked not to do that, would you think I was being friendly and cheerful in my reaching out to you?
Don't let the door hit your silly childish ass.