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Cheesy Little Life:

Briton stabbed to death by Canadian during 'bad trip' in Amazon spiritual ceremony

Witnesses told police Joshua Andrew Freeman Stevens killed Unais Gomes in self-defence after Gomes had ‘bad trip’ on hallucinogenic ayahuasca plant.

A Canadian man killed a Briton after the two took a hallucinogenic plant brew known as ayahuasca together at a spiritual retreat in the Peruvian Amazon, authorities have said.

Witnesses told police the Canadian man, 29-year-old Joshua Andrew Freeman Stevens, killed the British man, Unais Gomes, 26, in self-defence after Gomes allegedly attacked him with a knife during an ayahuasca ceremony near the jungle city of Iquitos on Wednesday night, said Normando Marques, a police chief in the region.

Ayahuasca is a combination of an Amazonian vine and plants that contain dimethyltryptamine. These give users psychedelic experiences when combined. It is not normally associated with violence.

The Canadian citizen was in police custody on Thursday, Marques said.

Witnesses said Gomes tried to stab Stevens during a bad trip, according to a police source in Iquitos familiar with the case.

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Gomes apparently used a knife from the kitchen of the alternative health centre Phoenix Ayahuasca to attack Stevens. Stevens ended up killing Gomes with the same knife, stabbing him in the chest and stomach, he said.

Phoenix Ayahuasca did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Its Facebook page describes it as a safe place to “experience plant medicines and explore the true nature of the self”.

The health centre is run by Tracie Thornberry and Mark Thornberry.

Tracie Thornberry is an Australian who studied counselling at the University of Newcastle. She is currently away from the centre in New South Wales.

When contacted about reports of Gomes’ death she told the Guardian in an email: “I’m aware of the situation but probably don’t know any more than you at this point. I don’t want to make any statement as I’m unaware of all the facts.”

Ayahuasca tourism in Peru has surged in recent years, with dozens of jungle retreats offering the traditional indigenous brew to visitors under the supervision of a guide or shaman.

Many tourists seek the drug out because of its reputation as a way to help ease depression and other mental health issues.

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Source:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/18/canadian-man-kills-briton-ayahuasca-ceremony-peruvian-amazon


Phoenix Ayahuasca is run by Tracie Thornberry and Mark Thornberry:

http://phoenixayahuasca.com/

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/500079330060555/


Nuage thrill-seekers should LEAVE IT ALONE! I am very sorry that casualties continue to get reported. However, I do not think they have a clue about the damage they so mindlessly and selfishly inflict on Amazonian cultures. And now they are starting to kill each other too.

Search 'ayahuasca' under all four categories - Frauds, Research Needed, Non-Frauds and Etcetera - in this forum; there is plenty of back-reading to catch up on.

See especially:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4585.0

I have posted this under Non-Frauds, but maybe Tracie Thornberry and Mark Thornberry should go under Research Needed.

educatedindian:
An expat in Peru has this relevant rant.

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http://dawnontheamazon.com/blog/2012/10/31/what-you-should-know-about-foreign-owned-ayahuasca-lodges/
WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT FOREIGN OWNED AYAHUASCA LODGES

A guest post by an AIDESEP worker

For just as Iquitos was once enriched off rubber during the genocide of Native tribes, so today the foreign owned “aya” lodges enrich themselves off Native sacred ceremonies. First of all are you aware of the fact that these foreign owned ayahuasca lodges are in VIOLATION of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples? Not only are they unethical as an affront to tribal dignity by commercializing for private gain tribal traditions, ceremonies, icaros, prayers, and other sacred rites; but they are against international law, by abusing indigenous intellectual property rights. Here, decide for yourself how one is to interpret indigenous peoples’ rights in reference to this. Article 31#1 “They have the right to maintain, control, protect, and develop their intellectual property over such cultural heritage, traditional knowledge, and traditional cultural expressions.” Article 8 #22 “Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identity.” There is more. What may be done is that AIDESEP, Peru’s national indigenous organization, may seek legal action against these bio-pirate foreign ayahuasca lodges.

FOREIGN OWNED AYAHUASCA LODGES STRIP MINE INDIGENOUS CULTURES!

How ironic that these places which claim to bring healing and higher consciousness are actually low life cultural criminals with no integrity for indigenous rights. So don’t be fooled by the fact that they may have a Native shaman. For rarely are these shamans informed or know anything about indigenous legal matters. For often they work like prostitutes doing their “tricks” out of poverty all at the enrichment of foreign owners. Let me put it this way. Grave robbing is rightfully condemned, but these foreign ayahuasca lodges are actually robbing living indigenous traditions. And while foreign mining on indigenous land is considered an unethical crime, foreign owned ayahuasca lodge strip-mine indigenous cultures and commercialize their tribal traditions.

WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE and don’t be fooled ! Here we go again, the anthroposophagous white race consuming more indigenous cultures. For this is a”gringo” problem, not Hispanic or Nativo. And these foreign owned aya lodges don’t have an ethical leg to stand on and the apus would like to see them all be shut down. What gives them the right? Their white skin? Their will? The——- Monroe Doctrine? Or is that what the dimethyltryptamine jaguar throne taught them? It is surely not the indigenous tribes they abuse. Only in permissive Peru are these unethical lodges allowed to exist. So by paying these people one is actually participating in the unethical and illegal exploitation of indigenous peoples sacred traditions. Just like the beautiful tiled buildings in Iquitos were all once built off the blood of the indigenous, so do these foreign owned ayahuasca lodges enrich themselves off the exploitation of indigenous intellectual property rights. Just like with the buildings some people see the beauty and others see the blood. And just like during the genocidal rubber years, the money generated buys off the community all at the expense of the indigenous people’s human rights. Roger Casement once wondered if anyone here cared about the indigenous genocide. He didn’t think so. And now too this topic of abuse against Indigenous rights is not popular. For when the local English language paper, the Iquitos Times, gets paid for by the advertizements of some of the biggest indigenous rights abusers (like Scott Petersen’s REFUGIO ALTIPLANO), what can one expect? “Finance takes little account of the methods whereby its golden counters are produced,” Casement wrote. So I am sorry that the Iquitos Times continues to be a vehicle for indigenous abuse instead of a voice for indigenous rights. After all they are promoting a crime according to The UN Declaration on Indigenous Rights. It is hard to have it both ways. And things get really muddled when I read their articles about Roger Casement and then see adds by these abusive foreign owned aya lodges. You should try printing some three dollar bills.

So if people want to partake of ayahuasca NEVER GO TO FOREIGN OWNED LODGES! And if people are so self-centered to spend so so so much $$$$$$$$ on “feeding” their head, while so so so many people worry about feeding their stomachs, then they have really learned nothing. Go to a Native or mestizo, but NOT to some a foreign lodge.

DON’T PARTICIPATE IN THIS CRIME AGAINST TRIBAL RIGHTS.

A guest post by an AIDESEP worker

The views expressed by this author are not necessarily the views of Bill Grimes, Dawn on the Amazon Tours and Cruises, or the Captain’s Blog.

Sandy S:
This link was sent to me by another NAFPS member:

https://ayahuascahealings.com/ayahuasca-retreats-usa/

Sparks:

--- Quote from: Sandy S on December 28, 2015, 03:44:51 am ---This link was sent to me by another NAFPS member: https://ayahuascahealings.com/ayahuasca-retreats-usa/
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There is a thread here about that group: Ayahuasca Healings Native American Church (AHNAC).

(A continuation of contents in this thread: James "Flaming Eagle" Mooney).

Sparks:
In the old thread Lists of Deaths attributable to New Age fraud this one post qualifies for posting in the present thread. Many of the links are now long since gone, but since I want to comment some points in here I quote the whole post as a beginning:


--- Quote from: brain_box_babe on April 04, 2006, 05:41:04 am ---Hello everyone!

My name is Marie, I'm Ojibwe from K.B.I.C (Keweenaw Bay Indian Community).

Someone asked in the old forum if anyone is tracking the deaths due to twinkie sweat lodges.

Probably the best source for sweat deaths is links page on the Three Fires Cyber Warriors sites:

They post a memoriam every year - so no one forgets how deadly New Age irresponsibility can be.

Archie Fire Lame Deer was the first (recorded) twinkie to kill somebody in a 'Vision Quest" Since 1980 there have been 7 sweat lodge deaths.

 http://ca.geocities.com/dont_pay_to_pray/links.html

 http://ca.geocities.com/dont_pay_to_pray/SweatLodgeDeaths.html
 
Don’t' forget there have also been some deaths of young people who try Jimson Weed after reading Carlos Castaneda – I met someone in one of my classes who was taken to the hospital after trying to see a vision with a Jimson root extract potion he made weeds he found in his neighbor’s yard. He said he got the idea from the internet from someone in a chat room who was reading THE TEACHINGS OF DON JUAN: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge. ?

http://ca.geocities.com/dont_pay_to_pray/JimsonWeed.html

In Tucson Arizona July 2002 2 young boys died in 102 degree heat after reading Castenada's books. However, the Arizona Daily Star refused to link the deaths to Castaneda or the New Age.

Some idiots still talk about it in alternative forums like these:

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/archives/best/1994/datura.html
http://www.lycaeum.org/forums/trip/Messages/453.html
http://www.alexgrey.com/aaz/viewtopic.php?topic=1242&forum=3&start=15

Brooke Medicine Eagle also almost killed a woman at the Michigan Womyn's Music festival in 1993 when she told all the women at her workshop they should use Pennyroyal to change their moon time to the new moon.  A woman almost bled to death from taking too much Pennyroyal in too strong a tincture.

Also, I remember that several years ago a lot of Ojibwe people were devastated when one their elders from Wiki (Wikwemikong Ontario) died of Ayahuasca vine poisoning.

http://ca.geocities.com/dont_pay_to_pray/AyahuascaDeath.html

The 'shaman' Juan Uyunkar only had to perform 150 hours of communitiy service for the negligent homicide of the beloved elder, Jane Maiangowi, a 71 year old woman with diabetes.

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/ayahuasca_canada.html

Mrs. Maiangowi was fooled by a fraud named Juan Uyunkar who came to the reserve. ? The New Agers in the States organized a campaign against the Ojibwe who tried to run the guy out of business. ? The Canadian government eventually forced him out of Canada, but he went to the Ann Arbor area and found a whole new (up scale) audience. ?

Most of the recent deaths that I've heard of aren't from sweat lodges, but from young people trying to have visions with stuff like Jimson weed, Ayahuasca and Salvia Divinorum. ? Colleges are really good at covering up the link to the New Age. ? It would be a lot harder to track those deaths because they people who do hallucinogens want to keep the practice underground. Their deaths are usually attributed to recreational drug use and not linked to trendy spiritual practices. A couple of years ago, Jimson weed was fairly popular here at the University of Arizona, but it's being replaced by "Sally D" or Salvia Divinorum.

The latest death I know of was on January 23, 2006. Brett Chidester, a 17 year old student, took his own life after smoking Salvia Divinourum leaves – He wasn't any different from a lot of young people - trying to get instant spirituality though hallucinogens.

Sally D is the hallucinogen of choice among the waanaabiiz here. Head shops sell it as a legal alternative to weed.  Dread-locked hippies claim it helps you see the "fourth dimension"

 NPR did a story on it Monday March 20, 2006
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5290545

 Our elders have always told us that if you don't understand the powers that you're messing with, you can do great physical harm to yourself.

 Hope this is helpful for the person who asked.

 Marie
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