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"Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Defend the Sacred:
A lot of what Gillum and her group are saying is also discussed in threads we have on related groups:
Discussion of Gillum's claim that Africans are the real NDNs, and that NDNs are actually "Chinese" (or something) and "perpetrating" on the lands in the US: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Compare Gillum's statements with the platforms and writings of these groups:
"Yamassee Nation" http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3706
Yamassee "tribe" in trouble with IRS http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Searching the forum will bring up many threads on the Nuwaubians. Here are two:
United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles With Leader Jailed http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0
Former Nuwaubian Writes Expose http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=432.0
Epiphany:
--- Quote from: Kathryn on May 30, 2012, 05:46:08 pm ---A lot of what Gillum and her group are saying is also discussed in threads we have on related groups:
Discussion of Gillum's claim that Africans are the real NDNs, and that NDNs are actually "Chinese" (or something) and "perpetrating" on the lands in the US: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Compare Gillum's statements with the platforms and writings of these groups:
"Yamassee Nation" http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3706
Yamassee "tribe" in trouble with IRS http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Searching the forum will bring up many threads on the Nuwaubians. Here are two:
United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles With Leader Jailed http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0
Former Nuwaubian Writes Expose http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=432.0
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This explains so much! Thank you for making this connection clear.
Looks like Gillum is following the playbook of Empress Verdiacee "Tiari" Washitaw-Turner Goston El-Bey http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/1999/spring/born-on-the-bayou?page=0,0 and related groups.
Epiphany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ljFSvqEZUA&feature=relmfu
Interesting bit here said by Ms. Gillum /Chief Warhorse, early in video about 0:10 mark paraphrased:
"Another thing I'm fighting for is that we as a nation have a place of governing that is represented and recognized by the United States goverment.
They say well that's federal recognition.
And I say no that's not. That is a god given right A god given right."
Epiphany:
Gillum and group refer to the "Jim Ducre clan" often as a claim to NDN heritage. Gillum also says that they don't have any French heritage. http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.ducre/39/mb.ashx
It is possible to piece together the genealogy of the man they are referring to. There is French heritage from the 1700s. That heritage was even discussed in a 1938 Louisiana court case Sunseri v. Cassagne- the case is directly related to this Ducre family lineage.
Gillum makes quite a few genealogy claims that can sound legit but with some research are found to not hold up at all. I think she has an audience who wants to be NDN and so they buy what she tells them.
As for her historical claims of being a tribe, some of what she says sounds like it is her own spin on http://www.unitedhoumanation.org/node/12
This combined with what Kathryn identified earlier in this thread as related groups who claim Africans were the real NDNs - hopefully will help people think twice before joining Gillum's group. Or giving them money. Or buying everything they say without doing any research.
Epiphany:
Quality Management Services Inc does program and grant management for them: http://qmsinc.biz/?p=174
--- Quote ---Tchefuncta Nation, Chahta Indian Tribe
Provides grant proposal writing and management assistance to the Tchefuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe. Queen Chief Warhorse, the Queen of the Nation and Chief of the Chahta Tribe has numerous programs (i.e. education, agriculture, disaster preparedness, economic development, health to name a few) that benefit not only the tribe but the local community as well. The Tribe works closely with local, state and federal agencies to implement, monitor and facilitate the flow of information and ensure that assistance and technical support get to the people and communities that need it. QMS provides grant and program management in support of various tribal programs located in Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas.
The American Chahta Indians have a rich history and culture dating back thousands of years in the southeast region of the country. As in ancient times, the Chahta focus on agriculture, fishing, hunting and most recently solar technology and green projects. Grant emphasis surround these key areas with the Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Department of Interior, Center for Disease Control, as well as the State of Louisiana. Another key emphasis of programming surrounds youth and cultural awareness and preservation of the rich traditions of the tribe with the next generation.
For more information on the Tribe contact QMS at (985) 649-2603.
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ST. TAMMANY NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE OF THE OLD FLORIDA TERRITORY registered Arkansas http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=286386&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=Gillum&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=&cmd=
Gillum's group has plans for a subdivision in Little Rock Arkansas named Chahta Yakni Falama http://www.littlerock.org/BoardOfDirectors/MeetingAgendas/Agendas/2007%20-%20Agenda%20-%2001-16-07/BC%20-%20HWY365-ChahtaYakni%20Deferral%2012-11-06.pdf
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