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frederica:
If you read the purpose of the group, it is to warn people about exploitation of NDN culture and ceremonies by non-NDNs and Nuagers claiming Ndn hertiage.   Psychics are busted all the time by people who take them to their law.  It's like when they busted all the Psychic Hotlines, as they were nothing more than people reading from a script as part-time work.   There is no telling what you are getting when you deal with people practicing things out of their culture.  If you are having some problems, Katheryn gave you some advise. Basic rule to follow is to know who you are dealing with.  Medicine people I know are not commerical, they do not advertize, don't have to, you know who they are.

zoi lightfoot:
Moon,with due respect,i do not "know" who you are or "what" was done to you,other than you state in another thread that you've got demons.To be honest that would be a pagan/wiccan or christian belief system and not something the Indian peoples can or could help you with.Our Elders and spiritual leaders do not go away to some "spiritual education facility" where the qualified are placed on some list.Our culturaly diverse and distinct Nations and Bands,KNOW which elders and spiritual leaders represent thier specific communities,they are not on some list nor advertised under "services".The fact is you went to a fake who played with "indian spirituality"A service they were not qualified to offer and now you tell us you have demons.You are now asking for some none existant list....Do you honestly believe the Indian Nations can or should help with a matter that is not even part of thier cultures? you need a priest not an indian honey!

Defend the Sacred:

--- Quote from: zoi lightfoot on October 28, 2008, 02:28:24 pm ---Moon,with due respect,i do not "know" who you are or "what" was done to you,other than you state in another thread that you've got demons.To be honest that would be a pagan/wiccan or christian belief system and not something the Indian peoples can or could help you with.
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The "demons" thing is mostly Christian, and Christian-influenced Western Ceremonial Magic. I guess some Pagans and Wiccans conceptualize it that way, but often from Christian influence. I think many Pagans and Wiccans go too far to the other extreme, and believe in a sort of Nuage way that all spirits are good and there's nothing bad out there if you don't believe there is.


--- Quote ---you need a priest not an indian honey!
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I would also gently add that mental health services might be called for. Moon, you're exhibiting signs of paranoia, which is a psychiatric condition. It can be healed, or at least managed. I'm not saying this to hurt you, nor am I assuming that's the only thing going on here. But sometimes brain chemistry can be part of the problem. It would be good to rule that out before assuming strangers are sending demons at you.

180IQ:
Maybe stroll on over to Siberia and ask around (be sure and take an interpreter along). Best luck, moon, and please let us know when you get your soul back!

Sword of Zilu:
The original poster probably won't get this. But this info might be useful for other people.

The most accessible shaman culture, in my view, is Korea. Most older Korean people know about mudang (Korean shamans) and know people who visit mudang. If you have close Korean friends, they might be able to help you find a mudang.  Some mudang advertise on the internet. All mudang work for money. However, I don't think mudang usually do journeys for soul retrievals, although they probably know rituals for calling back souls and related purposes.

Actually, many shaman cultures are not big on journeying, although they generally have rituals for calling back souls. If you have Thai friends or Cambodian friends, they might be able to help you find a traditional healer. If you have Chinese friends, they might be able to find you a Daoist priest. Daoist priests have rituals for calling back souls. Even if you don't have Chinese friends, you can go to temples in Chinatown. If they have mediums in the temple, they might be able to help you.

As with Korean shamans, spiritual workers in Asian countries generally work for money. Some advertise. It's important to be discerning. As with all occupations, some spiritual workers are good, and others are bad. You can also look up Daoist websites on the internet and inquire through email.

The original post did not mention demons. However, the replies indicate that demons are a problem. You don't have to find a shaman to exorcise demons. Most Asian cultures have exorcists. Again, I recommend Daoist priests. You can also contact your local Fengshui practitioner, because authentic Chinese Fengshui practitioners often have connections with Daoist spiritual workers. Tibetan Buddhist teachers generally also know about exorcism or about people who know about exorcism.

I mentioned mainly Asian practitioners, because other traditions are beyond my field of knowledge. Maybe other people have stuff to add?

It's important also to know that almost everyone is missing soul pieces. It is possible to live a fulfilling life even while missing certain soul pieces. Therefore, people who feel that they absolutely need a soul retrieval should first relax. Take a deep breath. When you search for a spiritual practitioner, take your time. Conduct the search systematically and be discerning.

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