Suraj Holzwarth aka White Eagle Medicine Woman

[bls926]

If you are talking of the MySpace site, it states  the user either cancelled their membership or the account was deleted.  Who was the owner of the account?

Cat Carnes and a friend of her's started that myspace not long after the incident in Weymouth last spring. There were several name changes, finally becoming Protect Native Culture. While the space originated to fight Holzwarth and the Grandmother Drum, it was maturing into a site to combat all attempts to steal Native American spirituality. As their objectives stated: "STAND UP FOR AND FIGHT TO PROTECT THE NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURE! NATIVE SPIRITUALITY IS NOT A COMMODITY - IT IS NOT FOR SALE! Those who would steal a ceremonial song from here, a dance from there, charge for lodge, charge for ceremonies and charge to pray are not spiritual people! They are charlatans and theives and this site is dedicated to join the fight against such people and their actions in a peaceful, respectful yet STRONG way ~ SOLIDARITY IS OUR STRENGTH!"

Wonder why they deleted it? Isn't this something worth fighting for? Isn't the theft and/or misappropriation of Native American culture and spirituality that important anymore? Maybe they got busy doing other things.

The account could have been hacked, or deleted. or maybe Cat got sick..... could be anything.

We'd have heard about it if the account was hacked. Obviously it's been deleted; I'm still wondering why. Nah, Cat hasn't been sick.

Could be anything . . . Yeah, guess you're right.

Could be . . .

[dabosijigwokush]

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     Re: Suraj Holzwarth aka White Eagle Medicine Woman
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-------------Original Message-------------10/25/2008 06:32 PM CONTACT REQUEST FORM SUBMITTED ---- Subject: Report Abuse - Imposter Profile Body: this person is a total fraud stealing from all she meets please reveue her history http://www.myspace.com/grandmotherdrum http://www.myspace.com/whirlingrainbowfoundation not a noprofit as reported evedence here http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1513.625 ----   

[mtig49]

New videos of White Ego in HAWAII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-O-361e92Q&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_iITsxLvho&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxxZGUE19og&feature=channel

[mtig49]

Just thought i would share some comments and messages off my video White Eagle Medicine Woman Fraud today.


osira33 (10 hours ago)  The one that posted the above videos

We all must watch out how we project negativity when it is not rooted in love understanding and truth. Some chosen ones are guided by ancient sun gods the serapeum. That drum was built with the intention of bringing the hearts of the tribes and the world together we all should appreciate those who care and not desecrate pure conscious love and intention. The drum was built with an ancient knowledge and understanding. Be careful not to judge what you may not yet understand...

mtig49
The only ancient knowledge is "a fool and his money are soon parted" So how much did you pay?


osira33
...
I paid nothing for true knowledge comes free when you ask
I know my bloodlines and consciousness back to the Sun Gods inAncient AMARAKA and OSIRIA which included North and South America all the way back 14,000 years from right now the Serapeum PTAH SOKAR OSIRIS, SHIVA VISHNU or SURYA and AMUN RA. I know the path of the Condor or actually Red Fire Phoenix for he is amongst us all now. These are and were his names for he has many more. Learn the truth know your history the land you are on is AMARAKA the ancient most powerful kingdom that will ever reigned. Before there were American Indians there was AMARAKA Land of The Immortal Sun Serpent Masters go and learn it. Your elders know...

My grandfather is full blooded Cherokee just so you know. I am the direct bloodline of the FIRE PHOENIX and the PELE temples here in HAWAII or AMARAKA to be correct check out http://www.amaraka.tv/home/?q=node/1 see for your self that the Sun Gods are real and were real. They are here to help us and medicine woman is being guided by the ancients as are many to wake up the world. I know this because she arrived when after I prayed on the date of the Rise Of the Phoenix 02/11/09 here at the FIRE most powerful point on the planet the Big Island Hawaii. We are all brothers and sisters. I understand your gripe but realize there are other higher forces at work here too.

Maybe she doesnt practice modern American Indian tradition and maybe American Indians dont follow ancient AMARAKA tradition but love and consciousness is all that really matters. There are many ancient ascension forms that all the tribes have lost that will soon be realized and rediscovered but we should not judge unless you know you have authority to. If you do judge then remember you assume the responsibility of the judgment and remember we are all being watched by much higher forces so we must make good decisions if we want to ascend.

Watch the slide show of giant Sarcophagus that are 15 feet to 35 feet in length. All the tribes are direct descendants as are you if you are American Indian. Surya the real savior of humanity was 35 feet tall. He stopped the fallen angels the Atlantean Druids the Titans from destroying the world and humans in the great war in Sinai which there is also pictures of in the slide show. Share this with everyone you know and remember the Golden Kingdom Is Come and we will build it in our lifetime I promise!!! Again read the story at http://www.amaraka.tv/home/?q=node/1 The most ancient name of the supreme light, Surya the sun god also known a Pshur Pati or PTAH SOKAR OSIRIS. This is the most powerful story that has never been told. Read this info and take it to heart for it is the most powerful truth that you and all will ever know.

Number 11 is the Ark or KA mantra listed below this is one of the more ancient tongues called Sanskrit, it is where all tribal languages originated from. It also represent the pentatonic scale and 4 side pyramid which holds the key to all know harmonics and mathematics. It is the master frequencies and scales this is this highest knowledge and the 4 primordial inter-dimensional gates. Read what the Pyramid Cheops in Giza Egypt was for. This knowledge directs all mater and consciousness because it is the deepest most powerful and purest truth.




Surya
Surya at Konarak Temple
Surya at Konarak Temple
God of the Sun
Devanagari ??

Affiliation Graha
Consort Saranyu, Ragyi, Prabha, and Chhaya
Mount Chariot drawn by seven white horses
/ by seven-headed horse
(Charioteer:Aruna)[1]
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In Hinduism, Surya (Devanagari: ??, s?rya, lit "the Supreme Light" [2]; Tamil: Suriya; Malay: Suria; Thai: Phra Athit) is the chief solar deity, one of the Adityas, son of Kasyapa and one of his wives, Aditi[3]; of Indra; or of Dyaus Pitar (depending by the version). The term "Surya" also refers to the Sun, in general. Surya has hair and arms of gold. Surya drives through the heaven in his triumphal chariot harnessed by seven horses or one horse with seven heads [4], which represent the seven colours of the rainbow or the seven chakras. He presides over "Surya-waar" or Sunday.

In Hindu religious literature, Surya is notably mentioned as the visible form of God that one can see every day. Furthermore, Shaivites and Vaishnavas often regard Surya as an aspect of Shiva and Vishnu, respectively. For example, the sun is called Surya Narayana by Vaishnavas. In Shaivite theology, Surya is said to be one of eight forms of Shiva, named the Astamurti.

His other names include Vivasvat (Sanskrit: ?) (also Visvakarma or Vivasvan), Ravi (lit. "the Fire Bird" [5]), Aditya (lit. the son of Aditi) [6], Pusha (the best Purifier), Divakar (the maker of the day), Savita (the vivifier), Arka (the ray), Mitra (friend) [7], Bhanu (light), Bhaskar (maker of Light), and Grahapati (the Lord of Grahas) [8] .
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* 1 Depictions
* 2 Surya Namaskara, or the "Sun salutation"
* 3 Surya's religious role and mythic relationships
* 4 In astrology
* 5 Temples
* 6 See also
* 7 References
* 8 External links

[edit] Depictions

Sometimes Surya is depicted with two hands holding a lotus in both; sometimes he has four hands holding a lotus, chakra, a conch, and the fourth hand makes the gesture of protection. [9]

[edit] Surya Namaskara, or the "Sun salutation"

A well-known Hindu mode of worship of the devotional movements of Surya is done at the rising of the Sun, known as S?rya namask?ra (Sun Salutation). Ten yogic postures are assumed in successive flowing movements to complete one namaskar. Twelve sacred Hindu mantras uttered and for each mantra one complete namaskar is done. Ancient practice is to do 108 namaskaras a day. It is considered most auspicious by Hindus to do this.

The 12 mantras for surya namaskara:

1. ? ? aum mitr?ya namah
2. ? ? aum ravayé namah
3. ? ? aum s?ry?ya namah
4. ? ?? aum bh?navé namah
5. ? aum khag?ya namah
6. ? aum pushné namah
7. ? aum hiranyagarbh?ya namah
8. ? ?? aum m?rich?yé namah
9. ? ?? aum ?dity?ya namah
10. ? ?? aum s?vitré namah
11. ? aum ?rk?ya namah
12. ? ?? aum bh?skar?ya namah

Aloha,
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AMUN RA SURYA

[Defend the Sacred]

I know my bloodlines and consciousness back to the Sun Gods inAncient AMARAKA and OSIRIA

Wow. Good to know.   

[Defend the Sacred]

She's Ba-a-ack.



Don't Pay to Pray has posted an update with lots of links here: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=390878854&blogID=510040160

[Sizzle Flambé]

Addresses and phone numbers of venues
(not the sponsors, but the landlords):

Appearing September 22, 2009, at:
Levittown Hall
203 Levittown Pkwy
Hicksville, NY 11801
(516) 933-6400

Appearing September 26-27, 2009, at:
Coast International Inn
3450 Aviation Avenue
Anchorage, AK 99503
(907) 243-2233
FAX:  (907) 248-3796
Toll Free 1-800-716-6199
International +800-800-26278
Email contact form:  https://www.coasthotels.com/contactus

Appearing October 16, 2009 (7pm-10pm), at:
Wantagh Memorial Congregational Church
1845 Wantagh Avenue,
Wantagh, NY 11793
(516) 785-1247

Appearing October 17, 2009 (10:30am-6:30pm), at:
Merrick Golf Course Clubhouse
2550  Clubhouse Road
Merrick, NY 11566
(516) 868-4650

Appearing October 23 (7pm–10pm) and October 24 (10am-6pm), at:
Comox Band Hall
3320 Comox Road
Courtenay, BC
V9N 3P8
CANADA
(Same address as the Comox Indian Band, (250) 339-4545.)
(Same address as the Kwakiutl District Council, (250) 339-6591.)

Kathryn, would you care to copy this back to the MySpace site? I'm not a member, so I couldn't leave a comment.

[Defend the Sacred]

On the Pay to Pray blog post?

Yeah, I can do that. Thanks for putting this together.

[nighthawk]

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[Sizzle Flambé]

Cool! This thread got cited (and the venue addresses put to good use) here:
<http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2009/09/107415.shtml>

White Eagle Woman Evokes Anger and Outrage from First Nations People

The Grandmother Drum Project is universally denounced as fraudulent by First Nations Groups

By Lisa Hill

First Nations groups are once again outraged that the controversial Rachel Holzwarth, aka Suraj Holzwarth aka Rachel Holzworth aka White Eagle Woman of the whirling Rainbow Foundation will be appearing in the Northeastern United States with her Grandmother Drum Project.

White Eagle Woman is tentatively scheduled to be appearing on September 22, 2009, to speak to the members of the LI Reiki group at the Levittown Hall 203 Levittown Pkwy in Hicksville, New York. Holzworth will be speaking about her documentary film/drumming and singing session presented by Marjorie Harriz, RMT and Karin Tamborello,RMT. Holzwoth will also be appearing October 16, 2009 (7pm-10pm), at Wantagh Memorial Congregational Church 1845 Wantagh Avenue, Wantagh, NY 11793 and again on October 17, 2009 (10:30am-6:30pm), at Merrick Golf Course Clubhouse 2550 Clubhouse Road Merrick, NY 11566.

Holzworth has been universally denounced as a fraud throughout Indian Country and Holzworth’s “Prayerformances” have drawn several angry protests from First Nations groups across North America. The controversy surrounding her Grandmother Drum project has done something remarkable in Indian Country – to unite diverse Native peoples against a common enemy – those who shamelessly exploit their ceremonies and culture for profit.

[... Article continues, at length....]

[KIS]

Osira 33
In response to your comment: "Maybe she doesn't practice modern American Indian tradition and maybe American Indians don't follow ancient AMARAKA tradition but love and consciousness is all that really matters..."

Love and consciousness do matter, and that's exactly what Suraj is NOT doing if she steals and bastardizes Native culture and traditions to promote her own agenda. But by pretending to be who she isn't, and by working with other who misrepresent their cultures and place in it, she shows great disrespect to her audience and traditional Native and Indigenous peoples.

Also, raking in money through subterfuge is not what the truly spiritual people do. Native people don't pay to attend ceremonies held by legitimate spiritual leaders. A gift may be offered, but not required.  Attendance and prayer are free.

Another issue pointing to Suraj's illegitimacy is that, (I've been told), the Fish and Wildlife Division has taken away her feathers used in ceremony. Only Native people may possess these feathers, and they must apply to do so. To illegally own them could lead to jail time and heavy fines.

These 46 pages of New Age Fraud Boards messages regarding Suraj should be a big red warning sign to those who are considering attending her events.  Perhaps you might give your money, instead, to a needy children's or elder's group, then go find a corner and pray on your own. Creator will still hear you while your money is spent on real prayers.

[KIS]

Osira 33
In response to your comment: "Maybe she doesn't practice modern American Indian tradition and maybe American Indians don't follow ancient AMARAKA tradition but love and consciousness is all that really matters..."

Love and consciousness do matter, and that's exactly what Suraj is NOT doing if she steals and bastardizes Native culture and traditions to promote her own agenda. But by pretending to be who she isn't, and by working with other who misrepresent their cultures and place in it, she shows great disrespect to her audience and traditional Native and Indigenous peoples.

Also, raking in money through subterfuge is not what the truly spiritual people do. Native people don't pay to attend ceremonies held by legitimate spiritual leaders. A gift may be offered, but not required.  Attendance and prayer are free.

Another issue pointing to Suraj's illegitimacy is that, (I've been told), the Fish and Wildlife Division has taken away her feathers used in ceremony. Only Native people may possess these feathers, and they must apply to do so. To illegally own them could lead to jail time and heavy fines.

These 46 pages of New Age Fraud Boards messages regarding Suraj should be a big red warning sign to those who are considering attending her events.  Perhaps you might give your money, instead, to a needy children's or elder's group, then go find a corner and pray on your own. Creator will still hear you while your money is spent on real prayers.

[NCRunningWolf]

New videos of White Ego in HAWAII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-O-361e92Q&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_iITsxLvho&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxxZGUE19og&feature=channel

There was something there that hurt my ears.

[Sizzle Flambé]

Another issue pointing to Suraj's illegitimacy is that, (I've been told), the Fish and Wildlife Division has taken away her feathers used in ceremony. Only Native people may possess these feathers, and they must apply to do so. To illegally own them could lead to jail time and heavy fines.

The feathers were confiscated on Friday, May 2, 2008, at the Circle of Light Community Center in Michigan, during one of Holzwarth's events being protested. A witness there describes it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHtJYR-neIY

[Superdog]

Osira 33
In response to your comment: "Maybe she doesn't practice modern American Indian tradition and maybe American Indians don't follow ancient AMARAKA tradition but love and consciousness is all that really matters..."

Love and consciousness do matter, and that's exactly what Suraj is NOT doing if she steals and bastardizes Native culture and traditions to promote her own agenda. But by pretending to be who she isn't, and by working with other who misrepresent their cultures and place in it, she shows great disrespect to her audience and traditional Native and Indigenous peoples.

Also, raking in money through subterfuge is not what the truly spiritual people do. Native people don't pay to attend ceremonies held by legitimate spiritual leaders. A gift may be offered, but not required.  Attendance and prayer are free.

Another issue pointing to Suraj's illegitimacy is that, (I've been told), the Fish and Wildlife Division has taken away her feathers used in ceremony. Only Native people may possess these feathers, and they must apply to do so. To illegally own them could lead to jail time and heavy fines.

These 46 pages of New Age Fraud Boards messages regarding Suraj should be a big red warning sign to those who are considering attending her events.  Perhaps you might give your money, instead, to a needy children's or elder's group, then go find a corner and pray on your own. Creator will still hear you while your money is spent on real prayers.

KIS you're responding to comments MTIG49 copied and pasted from his Youtube videos.  Osira33 doesn't post here, however if you follow some of the youtube links Sizzle posted you'll find that one of the people putting the new videos about R. Holzwarth is Osira33.  Those videos are still open to comment on.  Have fun, but it'll probably be like talking to a tablecloth IMHO.

Superdog