Suraj Holzwarth aka White Eagle Medicine Woman

[Cat]

Sorry to sound like a doofass cat...but will all the signatures and the address of the petition be no good also? Or can you just re-write the content of the petition and save the rest?

Tsissy

Tsissy - You are not a doofass LOL!! But no the Sig's will be no good as we cant submit that one to the Holiday Inn.  So it will be a fresh one.... Tonight or tomorrow.
Take care
Cat

[Tsisqua]

Ahh dang...thats a shame ....      

But....once its redone....I know people will sign again...afterall this is something we should all be involved in....last time I looked at it there were almost 200 signatures....not bad for a few hours eh?

Tsissy

[learningalot]

..snip..

learing a lot

[Cat]

SWEET!!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
Hello people!!!! Just received this from a Suraj Supporter believe it or not...
Who is in the area to help with this?? Plan of action going in to effect..NOW!! Repost!!!!!!!
The Moderators at White Fraud Woman/Protect Native Culture
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CHANGES to GrandMother Drum In Yellowstone, Montana June 17-21, 2008 IMPORTANT

Date:

Thu, 8 May 2008 12:51:36 -0400

From:

The Whirling Rainbow Foundation White Eagle ..


Beloved Family,

THE GLOBAL EDEN EVENT HAS CANCELLED GRANDMOTHER DRUM INTERNATIONAL
PEACE PROJECT PARTICIPATION THE JUNE 17-21, 2008 GATHERING:

PLEASE READ THE DETAILS OF THE CHANGES!

As many of you know we have been working with challenges from the
Native Community throughout our 2008 Healing Waters tour.
Our
GrandMothers and Grandfathers have been clear in their guidance to us
about this and we feel this is all happening perfectly to move us and
prepare us for a much grander global work of promoting the TRIBE OF
ONENESS.
The Healing of the Waters has begun!

Yesterday May 7th, Global Eden Event Director Joe Crane called us to
cancel our contract for The GrandMother Drum International Peace
Project participation in the 2008 Global Eden Event in Yellowstone,
Montana.


Though we have put in many hours, contacts and meetings and have been
deeply dedicated to the vision and mission of the Gathering of One
since Dec 07, it seems that the issues and threats that the Eden Event
is having with the native american community has now been more focused
at our peace project.
They simply do not want to have the tension at
their gathering.


We were disappointed as we felt we had developed a deep and trusting
relationship with the committee over these months and and they deeply
know our hearts and our work.


Additionally, we just recently met with the Native Community here in
Troy Michigan in a Peace Circle Friday night.
What is happening is
extremely powerful and we feel monumental in all that is happening
towards a deeper understanding of unity, peace and the Tribe of
Oneness. As the light grows, so too does that which needs healing.
We
are clear that we are all in the Portal Activation of a much larger
hoop of work.
Aho!

We, including our hosts (Ed and Annette Jones at The Center of Light
and Gail and Ted Miller of Consious Mind Magazine) and their community
here in Michigan also felt our work here went very well and was a huge
breakthrough.
We are continuing with another GMD Project event here in
Michigan this coming weekend.



GRANDMOTHER DRUM PROJECT NEW YELLOWSTONE EVENT:

As one door closed, another one opened immediately! We have, within
the same day been contacted by Monica Ravenhart of Bison Vision and we
will now host our work near Livingston, Montana during this same
period.
We are honored as this feels so much more in alignment to our
hearts work.
We had a session with Metatron and the Grandfathers this
morning which was very clear in guidance.
We will share more of this
during the Summer Solstice work.
Monica has done extensive work on the
songlines, especially working with the issue of the atrocity of the
slaughter of Bison and the disruption to their migration from
Yellowstone to the Black Hills of South Dakota.


Please also read about the Gathering of the Eagles in South Dakota
that we will be attending after our work in Yellowstone, Montana in
case you want to stay on for this Spiritual Unity of the Tribes
Gathering: http://www. sut-gatheringofeagles. org.
(Contact Mary Ellen
Uptain for details

DETAILS:

EVENTS:
JUNE 17th Metatron Graduation Ceremony and Teachings
June 18-21, 2008 Yellowstone Portal Activation Ceremonies.

These five days will be held outside of Bozeman on private sacred lands.

Costs: All five days $444.
*
( if you have already paid for the June 17th, your balance is $333.

Addtional details of food and lodging will follow this email by the weekend.


FLY IN LOCATION:
Bozeman, MT

LOCATION:
These five days will be held outside of Bozeman on private sacred
lands. This work is being announced ONLY to our immediate family.
This
is not a public event and we will not be listed on our website.


OUR HOST: Monica Ravenhart
Monica has worked extensively with the healing and dimensional work of
the Bison.
Bision Vision is a center for cultural and environmental enrichment,
offering unity-based teaching for all ages around the social structure
of an intact bison herd--to show the importance of place and purpose
for each individual in today's society.
They strive to bring
peoples of all walks of life into the fold of a new and bonding
culture--the culture of the Heart.
Bison Vision is based in
Livingston, MT but our cultural enrichment center is located in
eastern Montana on 3,000 acres of pristine prairie land.


This land sings of buffalo hooves and moccasined footsteps of a
pre-war minded peoples.
You may view some photos of this land at
www. walkswithburros. com

PLEASE NOTE: If you are registered for the Global Eden Event you will
need to contact their office directly yourself if you chose to cancel
and join us.


We trust that Spirit will guide all hearts in truth and where they
need to be to work for unity and peace to open and anchor this Portal
for the Star Seeding.


We will be in contact with more details by this weekend.


Blessings,

--
White Eagle Medicine Woman
Director, International Healer and DrumKeeper
The GrandMother Drum Intl.
Peace Project
The Whirling Rainbow Foundation
Po Box 2822
Palmer, Alaska 99645
011-1-907-745-5636
http://www. whirlingrainbow. com

[Tsisqua]

One door opens and another one closes would be a better way to put it eh? Lets see how fast we can get this door to close...time to get busy folks

[Cat]

sorry double posted..its edited now here:)
cat

[frederica]

Good, but what is a portal actavation, something like Star Trek?

[matt e]

frederica-

     the easiest way of explaining it- as a portal is like a door, activating it is like unlocking it and pushing it open. In this case, they perform some type of ritual ceremony that they believe will open some kind of door to let who knows what pass from whatever is on the other side to our side.

  while I understand most of what they say they are doing(as in what they mean) I would really like to know what Metatron is graduating from. I didn't even know he was in school.


  For people who are selling items claiming they are authentic whatever, and they are not. a visit to the federal trade commissions (usa) website might be a good idea. You can file a complaint right there on their site. They take consumer protection and people taking advantage of consumers very seriously.

http://www.ftc.gov/

 for information about copyrights and the web visit http://www.copyright.gov/

 it has all kinds of useful information, such as unless you have something copyrighted with the us copyright office, it can be very difficult to win a court case.
  unless you have the little c in a circle, along with copyright 200?  you are not protected by international copyright law.
  fair use means you can copy sections of something for the purpose of review and/or discussion. if someone from another country wants to claim they are not subject to fair use, and do not have a registered copyright with their countries gov't entity repsonsible for such things, good luck trying to take legal action against someone in another country.
 hope you are rich. cause it will cost you a lot.
 
both sites are very informative. i strongly suggest everyone take some time to look them over.   

[Superdog]

As many of you know we have been working with challenges from the
Native Community throughout our 2008 Healing Waters tour.
Our
GrandMothers and Grandfathers have been clear in their guidance to us
about this and we feel this is all happening perfectly to move us and
prepare us for a much grander global work of promoting the TRIBE OF
ONENESS.
The Healing of the Waters has begun!

Yesterday May 7th, Global Eden Event Director Joe Crane called us to
cancel our contract for The GrandMother Drum International Peace
Project participation in the 2008 Global Eden Event in Yellowstone,
Montana.


Though we have put in many hours, contacts and meetings and have been
deeply dedicated to the vision and mission of the Gathering of One
since Dec 07, it seems that the issues and threats that the Eden Event
is having with the native american community has now been more focused
at our peace project.
They simply do not want to have the tension at
their gathering.


We were disappointed as we felt we had developed a deep and trusting
relationship with the committee over these months and and they deeply
know our hearts and our work.


Additionally, we just recently met with the Native Community here in
Troy Michigan in a Peace Circle Friday night.What is happening is
extremely powerful and we feel monumental in all that is happening
towards a deeper understanding of unity, peace and the Tribe of
Oneness. As the light grows, so too does that which needs healing.
We
are clear that we are all in the Portal Activation of a much larger
hoop of work.
Aho!

We, including our hosts (Ed and Annette Jones at The Center of Light
and Gail and Ted Miller of Consious Mind Magazine) and their community
here in Michigan also felt our work here went very well and was a huge
breakthrough.
We are continuing with another GMD Project event here in
Michigan this coming weekend.


White Eagle Medicine Woman
Director, International Healer and DrumKeeper
The GrandMother Drum Intl.
Peace Project
The Whirling Rainbow Foundation
Po Box 2822
Palmer, Alaska 99645
011-1-907-745-5636
http://www. whirlingrainbow. com

Wow.....man.....something else.  I just KNEW that somehow....EVEN as badly as things went for her.....she'd try to find some way to make the meeting a selling point.  She could only do so much.....but she's still trying to do it.  That so sad....she's just lying.  It's unreal.

Well....the Bozeman deal is another topic.  I think its time to hit up the Bozeman newspapers about this story....a few letters to the editor.  Well-written and well thought out to get a clear message across.  Be objective when writing it...don't appear subjective.  The evidence alone of what she does is bad enough for most people to get an understanding of what she's really all about.  The words in this e-mail alone PROVES what a liar she is.  In her twisted version of it....she met with the Native community and groundbreaking work was achieved.  Exactly what she's referring to is beyond me.  I guess embarrassment, publicly lying and dodging and having her feathers taken away is groundbreaking work.  You all should've videotaped that first meeting anyway.  She's proven she can't be trusted.  Fish and Wildlife should show up again.  I'm sure there's more feathers there...she won't give them up honorably and that's the best avenue to have them taken.

I'm sure she's adding the experience of her encounter into her "stage act".   She obviously didn't learn a thing or take anything that was said to her to heart.  There's a lot of Native people in Bozeman, not to mention a whole state University that may want to get in on the act. 

I'd say it's time to invite her for a discussion on Indian terms.  She just can't be allowed any control over anything as  she will spin it into a selling point for herself.  She's got to be held accountable for her lies.   I doubt very highly she would ever agree to such terms as she knows she's just gonna lose....

I wish I could be there, but I hope Montana's as hospitable as Michigan....or even more so 

Superdog

[zoi lightfoot]

Actualy superdog,you can be there by writing and e mailing YOUR objections,with the peoples and elders on her stolen tail feathers,looking into copyright theft,and excercising the right of the Indian Nations to object.let the woman ramble on,folks like that usualy hang themselves by thier own words and actions.
Oh Hey and ROGER,you listening?,seems you and i are in the same business,though from different sides of the back yard fence i guess.I protect Indian interests to the best of my legal capacity(they paid for my education for that purpose after all)whats your excuse?
Lastly Cat.Is your petition on line yet? I will gladly sign it and unless anyone has any strong objections I would be happy to directly approach Capitol/EMI once that petition is underway,if that is to be geared towards the record companies.

[Half-Wolf]

I have sat and thoroughly read The White Evil Medicine Woman's letter.  I have trouble with

"Additionally, we just recently met with the Native Community here in
Troy Michigan in a Peace Circle Friday night.What is happening is
extremely powerful and we feel monumental in all that is happening
towards a deeper understanding of unity, peace and the Tribe of
Oneness. As the light grows, so too does that which needs healing.
We
are clear that we are all in the Portal Activation of a much larger
hoop of work.
Aho!

We, including our hosts (Ed and Annette Jones at The Center of Light
and Gail and Ted Miller of Consious Mind Magazine) and their community
here in Michigan also felt our work here went very well and was a huge
breakthrough.
We are continuing with another GMD Project event here in
Michigan this coming weekend."

I attended the Troy Community Center meeting on May 2nd and listened intently to her animosity toward us.  Her screaming ranting denying and trying to forceflly control us.  I also attended her May 3rd-4th event in Michigan where the police were called by her cohorts.  I was thereto on May 9th when the local police were not enough to satisfy her so the Stat Police showed up.  This from people who claim.

"We, including our hosts (Ed and Annette Jones at The Center of Light
and Gail and Ted Miller of Consious Mind Magazine) and their community
here in Michigan also felt our work here went very well and was a huge
breakthrough."
They did not want us there,but were told by the Michigan State Police that since we had tickets they had a choice to either lete us in or refund our money, in which case we still had the right to protest the event and they would possibly face discrimination charges since we were the only natives and even though we had paid in advance were not being allowed to attend.  If you read my previous post you see that Rachel (don't call me that) Holzwarth would not speak during the May 9th event where we attended.  She left it to her protege Samantha Elliot.  They did not want us taping the May 2nd event because they did not want people to know what was being said.
So having been in attendance at both events, I do not think any headway was made by either side, all that has happened is proven by her statement here, she is going underground.   This was evidenced by the May 9th meeting which was not publicized and which if we had not bought tickets in advance NO ONE in Michigan would have been any the wiser!
Her actions are getting ridiculous.
Everyone here needs to know, they cannot stop you from a peaceful protest on pblic property (the road).  Let's not sink to the level they are trying to push us to.  Do not use violence, but let everyone, ALL RACES, ALL CULTURES know you will be there, so much the better if you can get local media to attend.  Several people left her event in Michigan when they realized she and her "sponsors" were committing acts of unaceptable cultural theft, denegration and genocide.  People do have a thirst to understand us, let us fill their thirst in the truly traditional way.  Let us show them we are respectful and respectable, not what they perceive us, as the declaration of independence still calls us to this very day with no apology in sight, "... merciless indian savages ..."  We are responsible to stop the lies and false perceptions about us.  This is our responsibilty, a responsibility we cannot shirk or deny.  We will start with one step and from there educate more people who will then help us by advancing the truth to others.

[zoi lightfoot]

Correct me if I am wrong here,but were not members of our nations subjected to a violent assault and arrest because of this woman,who then went onto smear OUR relatives blood on her "sacred" drum?Not once has a member or organisation accociated with NAPFS done anything other than exercise their LAWFULL right to peaceful assembly and protest.In this sense Half Wolf is correct.Those going to see this woman will recognise that and leave.However there also comes a point when all the talking in the world is not going to stop some one as dellusional as this woman,and that is the time you need to untilise existing laws to shut her down.Is that not the intent of this forum?.Her plagerismn has handed you such an opportunity on a platter and all it requires on NAPFS part is a simple "did you authorise this usage" to Capitol/EMI, their own lawyers will go after her not me or NAPFS.

[Tsisqua]

Zoi I've already spoken to my own lawyer in regards to contacting the companies first thing tomorrow morning...we're all doing what we can here....and I know many more people are doing the same...or contacting the companies in person as I have already done....we have proven so far...we need many voices speaking up...a handful of people issuing a complaint is generally ignored...but as I said...there are many people working hard on this.

With respect,

Tsissy

[frederica]

Not only does Capitol need to be notified, she is still selling what she calls Ceremonial items in her store. ie Medicine bags, Medicine bundles, Smudge Feathers, which still look like Eagle feathers to me. I would think Wild Life only seized what she had with her in Michigan.

[Tsisqua]

This is still also being worked on....I think alot of people have slackened off somewhat with their response/emails/phonecalls/complaints etc....we need to find a way to regain the amazing support we all had on this from the beginning. I think many people feel that since most of her venues have been closed down...they've done their part. And as much as we all truly appreciate all efforts made thus far...this is still ongoing...and will be for perhaps a long time to come. I think as long as there are people out there willing to part with their hard earned money and throw it in Rachels direction...people who are seeking some form of spirituality....Rachel will find a way to continue...this is easy money to her...so we need to persist on this...and make sure that easy money maker becomes more trouble for her than its worth. We can really only hit her in her pocket book...we've tried reasoning...but this woman seems to take even those words and twist them to suit herself. Persistance is key...the more people complaining and contacting hosts, companies, web hosts, Fish and Wildlife again (For sale of the feathers on her site) and IRS (Have they even contacted her yet? Ive heard nothing about this)....contacting our Elders...Tribal Councils etc...even if everyone involved makes one call a day....sends out three emails a day...we would be on this. Right now I see a group of good people working their butts off....and many armchair supporters. How can we change this?

Tsissy