Author Topic: Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism/Jan Engels Smith  (Read 4716 times)

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Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism/Jan Engels Smith
« on: January 16, 2020, 06:02:39 pm »
http://lightsong.net/

I am surprised that Jan Engels Smith is not on here.   

Jan claims to have been adopted into a Lakota family and she attends their Sundance. She also claims to carry the Lakota songs and she runs a "Practicum" based on a traditional "Vison Quest" at this ceremony she uses many Lakota teachings and also as she claims to be a "Pipe Carrier"  at the closing part of the ceremony, she passes this pipe among the entire community to partake in.  She also claims to have been given the Lakota songs and they are sung at ceremonies. They also participate in there version of different Indigenous ceremonies, ie. Ghost Dance, and a Flying Drum to name a few.   And at the same time the school also claims to be "the new Mystery School on Earth"  see below quote from website.  It is taught in many classed that  Jan and Lightsong was "chosen" to be the New Mystery School"   Jan has also stated, that this Shamanic School, is the best and the only one that truly knows how to create a safe container.  She has also been known to bully or kick people out of the school if they question her teachings. 

She has written a few books as well, has a podcast on Shamanism and many online courses.  Her courses also are extremely expensive and she can make the choice whether or not you actually "passed" a class, based on her "spirits and insight"   And usually you don't pass until you sign a contract and pay more  money to take another class.

Supposedly they have a degree program that you can be part of and graduate with a "Masters In Shamanism"  however, very few actually ever graduate after years and years and money of attending the school and if questioned about how to actually graduate, there are many obstacles thrown in the way, or more classes that are needed.   

I could write more...but curious if others know of this school, this teacher or are interested in researching.

"During the process of planning LightSongs’s first commencement ceremony, Jan Engels-Smith founder of LightSong and one of LightSong’s council members simultaneously  received a message from a spirit ally about the nature of the ceremony and LightSong’s place in the lineage of Mystery Schools. Included in the message were details specific to LightSong as an organization stepping up to take its place in an ancient lineage of Earth’s Mystery Schools. This lineage has carried wisdom forward from Lemuria, Atlantis, Egypt, Avalon and is now embodied through LightSong."
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Re: Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism/Jan Engels Smith
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2020, 12:56:07 am »
Who is she claiming to sundance with?

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Re: Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism/Jan Engels Smith
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 01:10:58 am »
I believe it is the Buckhorse  Family somewhere up in Eastern Washington.   She has led Vision Quests and Sundances.  However she is not Native American at all. But she claims she was adopted into the Buckhorse Family. 

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Re: Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism/Jan Engels Smith
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 05:46:53 am »
https://youtu.be/bt3VFaEIgug

The presenter starting that video is Lorna Liana, who owns this huge commercial empire:

https://entheonation.com/  —  https://entheonation.com/about/ 


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Re: Lightsong School of 21st Century Shamanism / Jan Engels Smith
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 06:06:29 am »
Jan Engels Smith & LightSong Facebook presence:

https://www.facebook.com/JanEngelsSmith [Jan Weiss Engels-Smith]

https://www.facebook.com/LightSong/  [LightSong School of Shamanic Studies]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/LightSong/groups/  "Groups by This Page":

https://www.facebook.com/groups/292112151273883/
[Shamanism: LightSong Community]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FeelGoodChallenge/
[FEEL GOOD Challenge]

Also found: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LightSongBB/
[LightSong Bulletin Board]