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Luzia Krull
Manicman:
http://www.danadanadana.com/danae//luzia/index.html
I saw this woman, a therapist of the Santo Daime traditions in a series of (roughly) ten day retreats, while I was undergoing a lengthy kundalini awakening. I had a pretty bad experience. From the beginning she told me that she "knew" interventions had been made to get me to her and the Santo Daime. This in and of itself isn't such a bad thing, and most of the individual details I will share aren't so terrible as to make me think of her as a fraud. Once I thought about it in depth, and started putting different incidents together as a whole, that was when I realized I was working with someone manipulative and control seeking.
She used verbal tricks and obfuscated language in order to make herself out to be more of an authority than she really was. When I expressed my admiration for Native spiritual traditions, she said to me that there were people who considered her to be a shaman. It became clear to me that this woman considered herself as an elder of the Santo Daime tradition, although I later found out that Santo Daime is not considered authentic Native spirituality. She encouraged me to pray to one of her deities, someone she called Divine Mother, who she claims is some sort of reincarnation of the virgin Mary. At one point during a journey with the Daime, she asked me what I wanted from Divine Mother. She also played up her Native American accent. She does in fact have some red in her skin, but if you look at her profile she was raised in a Jewish American family, so there is no reason for this woman to speak with a Native American accent. I only realized this was an act after the fact.
By the second retreat, when I wasn't fully going along with her trip, she actively told me she found me to be a dislikable person. Because at the time she was my therapist she also knew I had self esteem and mother issues, which she was happy to use against me. On the third retreat during a particularly deep journey, I regressed and said some pretty childish stuff, including mommy. She, who was not under the effect of a boundary dissolving substance, said "Ok come here." It took me a moment to realize, because I was in a visionary state of consciousness, but she was offering to hold me. This was when it really began to hit me that she was seeking control and manipulating me. I stayed on my side of the room.
After the journey, the next day she said to me "I think I am your spiritual mother." I tepidly told her that I didn't think so.
On the fourth and last retreat that I went to see her, I said do you remember when you offered to hold me. It was a shameful thing to talk about, but I wanted the truth about the woman I was working with. She immediately said "No!" in a very dark tone of voice. This confirmed it for me. If this hadn't actually taken place, she would have still said no but been open to talking about it, because therapists are supposed to be used to transference. The fact that she said "No!" with a heavily implied "Shut up!" proved to me that she had done this in order to gain control over me.
At one point in the retreat she also said to me "I am close to giving up on you." When I didn't respond she turned and gave me a long look, because she had expected this to have more sway over me than it did. Keep on mind that this is the retreat after she called herself my spiritual mother. She also got very very uncomfortable when I said I didn't think the spirits had intervened to get me to her, and insisted that she "knew" this had happened. When I told her I was thinking of leaving the retreat early she berated me, and said that it was my own character weaknesses that were sabotaging the relationship. In fact the only decent moment in this retreat was when I payed her a chunk of the back money I owed her at the end. Which is not such a terrible thing in and of itself; we do need money to eat and live. But as I said earlier, I am trying to paint a picture of my experiences with this woman, and I saw a very cold, manipulative woman posing as a therapist, posing as a shaman.
She also displayed a remarkable ignorance about spirit work and these traditions. She said that the spirits and spiritual forces of these traditions are all the same with different names across the glove. She also claimed at various times to be of Cherokee, Iriquois, and Huichol descent. I came away from my experiences with her angry and ashamed, but glad that I had (even during a personal crisis) had enough awareness to maintain a certain amount of distrust and distance from this woman claiming to be my therapist/elder/shaman. Had I gotten as fully sucked into her trip as she wanted, I would have suffered long term damage. Instead I am just pissed and angry, and short term damaged.
Pono Aloha:
If she is dispensing illegal substances she can be turned in to the authorities.
Epiphany:
Manicman, I'm glad you survived, and were able to get free of her. Thank you for posting this info, it will help others.
Hopefully anyone thinking of going to her for healing sessions sees this and decides not to.
Luzia Krull's California corporation The Divine Light From Heaven has a "suspended" status
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/
--- Quote ---I have worked as an independent massage therapist since 1980. I am not licensed.
--- End quote ---
(my bolding)
http://www.danadanadana.com/danae//luzia/massage.html
Is this the same Luzia Krull?:
--- Quote ---A routine traffic stop in St. Landry Parish led police to a car full of drugs worth almost a half-million dollars.
Now, two Californians are behind bars on a variety of charges.
According to Chief Deputy Laura Balthazar, 46-year-old Hugo Arana and 51-year-old Luzia Krull, both of California, were transporting 37 liters of the hallucinogenic drug commonly known as DMT from California to Florida.
Deputies also found 10 ounces of marijuana.
Both Krull and Arana are being held in the St. Landry Parish jail on $41,000 bond each
--- End quote ---
http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=2971873 2005
Update: Hugo Arana named in that news story and in her bio is "2000 - Met my companion Victor Hugo Arana"
http://www.danadanadana.com/danae//luzia/luzia.html
educatedindian:
Haven't found what happened in the drug bust, but apparently Santo Daime churches have sued to prevent prosecution before since they use psychedelic drugs in ceremony.
The bigger problem is not the church but Krull herself. She's almost 60 and yet seems incredibly lost and aimless, a flake bouncing haphazardly from one belief system to another her whole life because she's suffered more than a few traumas.
From her own website.
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Psycho-spiritual Development...
1966 - Began Zen meditation practice
1967 - Death of my brother, onset of my father's illness, and familial depression
1968 - First boyfriend, abortion, death of aunt, and a male friend...
1973-75 - Mother re-married, lived on a Kibbutz in Israel, a cave on a Greek island, an apartment in W. Berlin with a companion, studied communities, Lao Tzu, and non-attachment
1975-78 - Sonoma State University, participated in alternative life-styles, vegetarian cooking, yoga, studies of consciousness, the brain, and quantum physics...
1981 - Discovered Vipassana meditation and Larry Rosenberg, founding member of Cambridge Insight Meditation Center, practice leader, chai maker, and retreat cook
1983 - Married Perrin Cohen to form a 'restructured family', first home since 1971, travels to Nepal, India, began a women's group
1984 - Began a private psychotherapy practice, entered in Bio-energetic/spiritual psychotherapy with Jose Rosa, participated in Native American rituals, discovered Creator, spirit guides, and how to pray.
1985 - Fell in love with Mother Ammachi, began working with clients who were subject to ritual abuse, satanic cults, and sexual abuse
1987 - Entered Bio-Energetic/Psychodrama psychotherapy with Ildri Ginn, informal massage training, macro-biotic cooking, travels to Peru, initiations in Machu Pichu
1988 - Brazil, enchanted by the Queen of the Forest, mediumship erupted, spiritual initiations, owned my womanhood, battled with sanity, and confronted craziness, end of marriage, home and community
1989 - Joined the Church of the Santo Daime...
1991 - Life-style change, closed psycho-therapy practice and group, built house in Mapia and began living there for extended times...
1992 - Baptism and second earthbirth re-named Luzia
1993 - Caretaker and witness to the death and dying of my second father, passed through grief, loss, depression, and despair, wrote "Soultalk, Conversations on Psychotherapy and Spiritual Practice", (still awaiting publication)
1994 - Continued my personal psycho-spiritual integration in the Amazon forest, internship in plant and spirit based healing techniques and practices.
1995 - Founding member of the community Kayumari, Sonora, California
1997 - Formation of Ceu da Luz Divina (Divine Light from Heaven) a religious corporation...
2000 - Met my companion Victor Hugo Arana and his son Camillo, vision of spiritual community/healing center in Florida
2001-4 - New home life with family in Felton, California, developed Psycho-spiritual Integration as a therapeutic style
2005 - Spent a year on a retreat in central Florida, reawakened political awareness, revelations on love and war, decided to return to Santa Cruz and open an ecological spiritual healing center off the grid to continue my work.
2006 - Re-establishing myself in California, and traveling to Mexico and the US giving spiritual retreats and sessions.
2008 - Returned to Felton, creation of the Golden Light Chapel, a place for my work, personalized retreats and communit events...
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The drug bust was apparently during her "retreat" supposedly in FL.
Has she ever stuck with anything over 3 years? Mostly she abandons or fails at one project or belief system after a year or so.
Often she seems have been conned by abusers and exploiters herself, like the ones claiming to work with victims of satanic cults (an urban legend the FBI has investigated and never found evidence of.)
"Mother Ammachi" has been accused of all kinds of cultic abuses herself.
http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/blowing-the-whistle-chpt-9-amma-the-mother-saint-hugging-away-your-personhood/
http://cult-of-the-hugging-saint-exposed.blogspot.com/
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/insider-vs-outsider-doctrine-hugging-saint
And Kayumari? That's the same center founded by Jyoti, the manipulator behind the 13 grandmothers.
Defend the Sacred:
Is she using Ayahuasca, or dosing people with substances she claims are Ayahuasca?
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