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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 03:42:51 pm »
I should have said I do not know of any legitimate nation that charges for a card... since you listed a few as an example I will explain what I see to be the difference. With the Choctaw Nation of Mississippi you actually need to prove your direct lineage to someone on the Dawes Roll by blood. Also they are a Federally Recognized Nation.

The yamassee state that that all you need is a Sworn Affidavit that you have a descendant(s) of the Core Families : Mechica,Cherokee, Blackfoot, Seminole, Choctaw, Apalachee, Chickasaw,Washitaw, Creek etc. Anyone can do that, as a matter of fact I could go write one out right now send in my check and get a yamassee card. http://www.yamasseenation.org/content/view/25/44/


They also state that since they are in communication with the federal government that that makes them Federally "acknowledged." http://www.yamasseenation.org/content/view/67/32/ They are not federally recognized, and I find it to be very misleading. 

I also see on the site they are talking about the Newsfraud Random Bloggers Attempt Attack on Yamassee Nation  http://www.yamasseenation.org/content/view/107/9/ This has absolutely nothing to do with racism, its about a misleading website.




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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 03:50:01 pm »
Well from reading their enrollment Cat, they are not selling membership, it says Petition! And also on their website I read, a question that says, "Do every one get accepted?"
The answer was no!

They also have a list of core family names, you must have on your lineage chart, and the Affidavit says that if you can NOT prove lineage, then sign a sworn affidavit attesting to such.
I have seen all of these type documents with other "LEGAL" native nations as well!

I even called and found that if you are not accepted because of lack of Proof to claim, you can Appeal the Citizen Review Board and or Contact the Tribal Council, to possibly be Adopted.

Also I asked was ID's Optional and they said yes, that not every Tribal citizen chooses to carry a Tribal Enrollment Card!
And in many tribes it is Optional as well...
Call for yourself, to get the answers you are looking for, won't hurt...

I was just shocked, that I actually spoke with someone , and they have a cool PBX system, nothing like my Tribes!

And I am impressed by their straight forwardness about these Obvious FAKE groups, promoting boarder crossing etc...
But signing these Items does not mean they will be accepted. I think this is definite a form of misunderstanding, with no lack or disrespect intended, for how this person might have given you the information!

I REALLY THINK, THIS PERSON GAVE YOU THE WRONG IMPRESSION!
But that's not at no fault of your own!

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 03:52:36 pm »
Okay, lets do some research their is several ways, a Tribe can be Recognized and acknowledged as i saw both of these words on the B.I.A. Website, see it for yourself!

But in your first statement of legitimate nations or not, the FACT still remains they charge, and earlier it was said agreed by several people on here No one charged!
And please do not take Offense to me, as I only want to see if this is based on being Bias to "Blacks" and there is no possibility of a Black Tribe, or a personal vendetta by, random people!

I could see where this could look racist by them, because of the attack on them, and their attempt to be looked at honorably and not compared to people like Derrick Sanders, and the likes!

They have a common RIGHT like all people to be identified in a certain way!

Also, a government to government relationship as I was told does not mean, they are sitting in the white house with the president, but if a COURT recognizes their Court, then by LAW that does stipulate a Truth, as the Court has to investigate the Validity of the Tribal Organization, and If a FEDERAL Court does the same, it definite validates their claim.

They also made note they are not looking for Federal recognition, which would put them as Wards of the Federal government, and would have to have B.I.A. departments.

Again it sounds as if you have made up your mind regardless to FACTS, and have condemned hem!

Sorry you have a Thing for these people and their TRIBE!  :'(
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 04:40:33 pm »
Glad to see you again, TBA, and thanks for helping us on Sanders and the other obvious fraud group At Sik Hata. We need to start a research thread on them as well.

It does seem, like critter pointed out, that you misunderstood and we didn't make it very clear either.

No legit tribe requires you to pay to be a member. You found a grand total of three that ask for a token amount for an ID card, much like the DMV does. Incidentally, the Blckfeet enrollment site is related to the tribal govt, but not part of it.

Let me ask, are you a member of the Yamassee? I know you've referred to yourself as an ambassador (which no actual tribes have, except as general honorary goodwill ambasasadors). But you keep referring to the Yamassee as "they".

Am I correct that many or even all of the Yamassee have personally been burned in the past by Sanders's group, or At Sik Hata? Or the Washitaw? Or the Nuwaubians? If so, we want to know more so we can expose them and prevent others from being hurt.

It certainly has nothing to do with bias against Blacks. There are some Indians who are bigoted, but none in here. We throw people out for any kind of prejudice. We have Black members and every other ehtnicity in here you can think of, which if you'd read our Who We Are page, you would know.

And most Indians who object, even outside of NAFPS, it has nothing to do with bias vs Blacks. The Seminole and Lumbee and Pequot and other Indian tribes have plenty of people with Black ancestry and prejudice vs them by other Indians is pretty unusual.

The problem is racist Black supremacist nonsense from those like the Nuwaubians and Washitaw, who are both deeply racist against Indians, spread phony history, and cause many problems, including abusing people, cheating them of money, and taking advantage of Blacks who have or may believe they have Indian ancestry.

It could be that some or even most of the Yamassee have some Indian ancestry. It may just be hard to prove on paper. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. About half of all Natives in America are in that situation, including some members of NAFPS.

Some of them may be descendants. Whether they are Indian or not is a trickier question. Most Indians would say if you haven't been raised in and know the culture, you have descent but are not Indian.

In that case it is possible to learn the culture and be truly Native again. Happens all the time with people who were adopted but didn't know they were Indians until they were adults, and with people of distant ancestry as well.

But the worst thing to do is to try and form "your own" tribe.

First, it will never be recognized. The fed govt requires you be a tribe prior to 1900, and to be in continuous existence all that time. Applying for fed recognition, as the Yamassee have done, is a waste of everyone's time. And it could be the leadership is doing that either out of ignorance, or to cheat people out of money.

At most, this "tribe" would be a heritage club, and no Natives would think of it as anything else.

Second and more important, if few people know the traditions, they will get some of them very wrong, and pass that ignorance on. It would be much better to go to the people you are related to, and learn from them. A good example of that is those who fall for the claims that the Yamassee (the tribe prior to 1800s, not the heritage club today) were Olmecs, or Mound Builders, when these are all unrelated distinct peoples.

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2012, 07:57:10 pm »
If by TBA you are referring to me. I never said I Was an Ambassador for them!
I see this conversation is pointless.

I know what grand father teaches me,,,, which is everyone has a right to their way of life as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others.

he also said the world is now the white mans, so  we think like whitemen!

Also every tribe does things the way they want, based on their traditions and adjustments to this New age!
So if we all did things the same, we would be clones.

Again, I only wanted to bring balance to this, but I see this is not the forum for that.

Thank you Educated for your hospitality, but I think this is a witch Hunt, based on Past records of FAKE Yamassee people, and these people suffer. It reminds me of when 911 happened and everyone that was muslims seem to pay for the wrong doings of others, or at least it came out that way in the media

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2012, 08:04:19 pm »
Oh and i am sorry, I so Agree to what you said about the Hate groups, such as Washitaw and their phony history, NOW THAT I COMPLETLEY AGREE ON!

 "Am I correct that many or even all of the Yamassee have personally been burned in the past by Sanders's group, or At Sik Hata? Or the Washitaw? Or the Nuwaubians? If so, we want to know more so we can expose them and prevent others from being hurt.


But from what I can tell yes They descendants of these Yamassee and many other were BURNED bad, I can not Trully prove this, but it comes off that way when reading post on the Yamassee Muskogee site, and various blogs.

The Guy At-sik-Hata, I think has mental issues, as he truly think he is doing something by placing UCC liens on the "QUEEN" ?

Now these guys like sanders are worth exposing as they Truly show a Agenda!

 And again sanders does obvious stuff like try and duplicate peoples sites www.yamasseenation.com but says Embassy Clan? WHAT IS AN EMBASSY CLAN, and that langauage looks Arabic in phonetics?

again thank you for your hospitality!

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2012, 08:10:26 pm »
WOW, I just Read the Post on Sean bey, sorry you already on it!
(smh)
Never mind my last post!

WOW AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!
WOW, this guy is released from Psychiatric care?

Going to the casino now to win some money to leave for A Third world Country!
My joke for the day but I am sort of serious!

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2012, 08:49:36 pm »
My reply

Lakotiya TamakewasteWin iyuha cante wasteya nape ciyuzapelo!

My name is Tamaka waste Win I shake you hand from my heart

we do not pay to be enrolled, we pay to get a copy of our photo ID,
it is an option to have a photo ID but we can pick up our tribal enrollment
papers free. That is the difference in case you did not understand.
My people have story of different people we encountered as we traveled from
South America. I spent time with the Seminole and know from their history they
are Creek descendants. They keep the same culture as the Creek along with
the ceremonies.
When you live in Native Country you know that is the culture we have the right to
ask people who are u? What is your relatives names what band and clan do u come from?
Everyone in the old days would have witness to say I am come from this family and this
is who can tell you that.
Today we have people that dont understand native culture and get offend when we ask question of people.
We still live our culture and yes we still speak our langauge and live our culture.
I am not condeming anyone just asking question because the post was so strange to me.
Everyone we know is Native and that lives on our reservation.
We keep our family histories so i know who everyone is.
I dont have family who is not on our rolls as a tribal nation.
I have nothing aganist Black people this about people who make up history and make up cultures.
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2012, 12:52:38 am »
My reply

Lakotiya TamakewasteWin iyuha cante wasteya nape ciyuzapelo!

My name is Tamaka waste Win I shake you hand from my heart

we do not pay to be enrolled, we pay to get a copy of our photo ID,
it is an option to have a photo ID but we can pick up our tribal enrollment
papers free. That is the difference in case you did not understand.
My people have story of different people we encountered as we traveled from
South America. I spent time with the Seminole and know from their history they
are Creek descendants. They keep the same culture as the Creek along with
the ceremonies.
When you live in Native Country you know that is the culture we have the right to
ask people who are u? What is your relatives names what band and clan do u come from?
Everyone in the old days would have witness to say I am come from this family and this
is who can tell you that.
Today we have people that dont understand native culture and get offend when we ask question of people.
We still live our culture and yes we still speak our langauge and live our culture.
I am not condeming anyone just asking question because the post was so strange to me.
Everyone we know is Native and that lives on our reservation.
We keep our family histories so i know who everyone is.
I dont have family who is not on our rolls as a tribal nation.
I have nothing aganist Black people this about people who make up history and make up cultures.


I again would like to say, that what I see, is exactly what you have said!
And reading their history, makes it clear.
They have shown relationship with our Great Chief Sam Jones " Aripuka" as our library say he was exactly in that area where they claim to be. They also was a matriarchal society and had to get permission from the elder women, to come out!

I want to again make note that not every tribe does things the same way!
And I KNOW THAT THEIR CHIEF HAS BEEN ON OUR LAND AND FESTIVALS AND EVEN SPEAK OUR ANCIENT LANGUAGE!

But what I do know and what have been passed down to me, is the Creeks do not speak our language and are not the seminole, even our history as Mikkisuki is false as our ancestors know of the word "Miki" was Council and suki Pig, so they call us , meaning the pale man Council Pig. Only that Knowledge is past down or known by the elders, but again You the Public do not!
Even the Appalachee Chief Gilmer has his story saying until recently, he was considered black, and met with Negativity and was told he was not Indian. They still have not truly shown what their Tribal tradition was, as they are not recognized, by the B.I.A. either.

There is a Benefit to be considered RECOGNIZED by the Pale face, and not just to say we ARE REAL INDIANS, As  we fought them, more recent than most tribes and went unconquered.
Even the history you speak of is incorrect as the Creek did not exist, until it was made, in the 1800's. My people know of this, but do not argue. Read the Creation of the Creek nation.

I find that a lot of us get caught up as we should in our Native story and only hear about others, speak of things as we know first hand, and make our LIFE Everyone's life!

But what the Sioux go through is not what We as Seminole go through, or what the muscogee go through, etc...

HOW SHOULD a TRIBE CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN ITSELF WHILE WAITING ON FEDERAL RECOGNITION & Money!
Do your offices run on FREE Electricity, Free water from the state, was the buildings Paid for by Tribal citizens or the Government?

Sometime Like grandfather I feel we get so, caught up in the life Other Provide for us, we forget how we got there!

Should enrollment be free to a person we know nothing about until they file documents with the GOV, are the people in the office working for nothing, they have NO Bills to pay and the expense  out of pocket expense to the Council. Because it is a honor to have people back in the Tribe, who will give us more mouths to feed!

OR DO WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE ARE countless tribes out there, who have kept their Tribal Ways, their Tribal Lands, yet recently choose to NOW want to be Recognized by the US gov because their people are Economicly POOR!

I am flabbier gassed at those who just do not get it.

I will say this , it was this type of thinking that caused the Red Stick and White Stick war, basically the old vs. the new!
And this is shown in every country now that America, tells that they should get rid of their old ways, and be more civilized like us!
And then the civil wars errupt!

When our Ancestors encountered a person or tribe, they never questioned if they were NATIVE AMERICAN "INDIAN" they embraced them unless their Tradition were Violated or their People disrespected, in their customs, while they broke bread with them!

This was how the White man came to this LAND, OUR LAND, he was different, he had his ways, he said he had a chief, that spoke and protected them, and we related to that!

Now we know the truth, and yet we spit at the feet of those trying to re-establish their Tribal roots, whom had to hide and do WHATEVER FOR SURVIVAL, like NONE of us had turmoil by the System that was being put in place. We dishonor Our Ancestors with this Talk and Thinking.

That is All I have to say about this!

Thank you all again for listening to me!
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2012, 01:15:18 am »

...But what the Sioux go through is not what We as Seminole go through, or what the muscogee go through, etc...

HOW SHOULD a TRIBE CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN ITSELF WHILE WAITING ON FEDERAL RECOGNITION & Money!
Do your offices run on FREE Electricity, Free water from the state, was the buildings Paid for by Tribal citizens or the Government?

...Thank you all again for listening to me!

Since you are Seminole, why aren't you with the Seminole nation? You can't tell me it's because of being Black. Many Seminole are also Black.

Why do some other Yamassee who say they are Creek, etc, not join the Creek or their other particular tribe? It makes more sense than a heritage club led by people with faux-Muslim names. Until you throw away the last of the Nuwaubian pseudo history claims, it will make learning the actual history more difficult.

And many tribes sustain themselves without federal money, both recognized and not recognized. It does not take money to learn the true stories and pass on traditions.

Hopefully many more with Black/Indian ancestry or those believing they are will realize you must learn the right way of doing things from relatives, and turn away from racist abusive liars like York. I hope you stay around to tell us more of these abusers. I also hope you encourage others who have been harmed by York to come forward.

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2012, 03:21:26 pm »
Our tribal office was paid for by a lawsuit with the United States government and we won,  ;D
when they flooided our land,
we own the water so we dont pay for the water here because of another lawsuit we files.
that means we have never given up fighting Lilili
We have many different funding sources for the tribe not just Federal government.
As you should know there are no "Sioux" people.
We are Lakota-Dakota and Nakota Nations
people located in seven states and three Canandia Provinces,
We are 1851-1868 Treaty people so we never had to get recognized by the United States.
As a Nation we were already a nation never had to prove that fact ever,
We still have our language and it is not not an ancient language but a language we use everyday.
it is important to protect who we are by not making up stories of who we are, our winter counts go back
two thousand years.
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2014, 04:13:05 pm »
It's become more obvious they are yet another splinter outfit of faux Muslim Nuwaubian cultists.

I can't believe they actually put this on the front page of their "tribal" website.

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http://yamasseegov.org/main_site/
Even though many would say the Yamassee are not "Recognized" by the B.I.A. which is obvious, as we have said we do not wish to be so or may ignore countless documents by Senators and Congress officials, that say it doesn't matter All "INDIAN" Tribes have Inherent rights. Lastly is that there are several forms of "Recognition" one being Judicial, and No smarty pants we are not talking about our D.O.T.

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What, is the writer ten years old?

Here's their "chief's" book.
http://www.lulu.com/shop/inscribed-by-chief-sekhu-hidden-eagle-thunderbird-gentle/yamassee-culture-heritage-practices-study-guiderevised/paperback/product-21329807.html;jsessionid=921E608B36A5F9E4EB7419F1AA6AAB67?showPreview=true

Ah yes, "Chief Seku Hidden Eagle Thunderbird." Subtle, like a name chosen by a kid who read a lot of Marvel comics.

Other members.
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http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Yamassee_language
The website of the Official Yamassee Government, makes clear of its Tribal Identity through their Newly Appointed Miko Sekhu Gentle, and it is Officially Recognized as a Sovereign Nation with the same previous Treaty rights, of their predecessors ie... Tomochichi & The Indian Land Treaty 1707.
The website shows , that Chief Gentle, is a Lineal Descendant of the Yamassee, last seen in northern Florida, between St. Augustine & Pensacola and having descendants from what was called "Altamaha", in Beaufort South Carolina .
Having family living on Florida census records in the Monticello, Fl area Known for some of the Largest Mounds in Florida. Sekhu is the Son of Col. Geronimo Gentle, Who is the Son of Willie Gentle I.

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They say they have a tribal police force who have all gone through hand to hand combat training. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Film of their powwow with maybe 30-50 people. I have no idea why they play A Tribe Called Red song. I doubt the group gave their permission to use it.
http://yamasseegov.org/main_site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=69

They claim distant descent from a group 300 years ago. They charge $54 for membership, but claim disavow any ties to frauds that are tied to the sovereign citizens..
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http://yamasseegov.org/main_site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=71&Itemid=75

•Who are the Yamassee Indian Tribe / Yamassee (Muskogee) Nation?
Ans: The Yamassee Indian Tribe of Florida, South Carolina & Georgia are the Blood descendants of the Swift Creek ancestry. Our Bloodline is proven through our connection to the Yamassee Seminole's who fought in the Yamassee War of 1715- 1717 and those whom later, chose to migrate into Northern Florida who was later identified as " Seminole" of the Hitchiti stock also called the Miccosuki in later history. The Core of our Family being related by Blood to " Sam Jones" " Aripuka" or "Abiaka" the Seminole War Chief who fought in all of the Seminole wars. Abiaka was born in Miccosuki, Florida on the Florida/ Georgia border or Line before the Migration of a Certain Group of Miccosuki to the Everglades after passing through Tampa. This Area is closely located near Monticello, Florida (Letchworth Mounds) and Waukeenah....

Are you a Group or Cult?
Ans: 100% No, the Yamassee existed before the Continental Land Drift as history shows, the purported connection to others Identified as Yamassee or private individuals lack of understanding to a actual "Black" Tribe does not make us a cult, and has No bearing on the existence of the Yamassee as a legitimate Tribe, which history shows was apart of the most bloodiest war in American History called the “Yamassee War of 1715”.

What about the Reports from Blogs all of you are the same Group of Tax defrauding Schemers ?

Ans: Assumptions based on those trying to show affiliation to our Tribe. However everyone has the right to Identify themselves as whatever they choose, this is their right. However we have never Nor our Chief attempted to claim or take over any rogue organization using the Yamassee name, or be party to any illegal activity. We when we are contacted by self proclaimed Yamassee tribes, attempt to ascertain, the legitimacy of the Yamassee Connection, and have attempted to help legitimize what ever efforts, only to understand that if no honor exist all efforts are for not. We Yamassee base whom we are on blood lineage and Proof via our Blood Ties and our continued Practice of our Culture and Identity through our Matriarchs and Chiefs. This does not mean we condone any false claims, of those identifying themselves as Yamassee, Just that all of the blood related Yamassee, bands, Clans or Nations are together in UNITY with Each other which makes up the Yamassee Nation, no matter what our Skin tone seems we have come together, and validated our blood ties as One Nation under the Great Spirit. (Please See http://www.yamasseenation.org)

Are you affiliated with a group called Y.N.A.A. N. or Mt. Arafat (Mund Barafeen)?

100% NO,
 If you read the fabricated report, they obviously have a problem with us making a clear distinction between us and them . Actually we have worked hard to separate our name with them, having to show U.S. Officials there is no affiliation. We want nothing from this group, nor support their efforts. They have the right most do which is freedom of speech, and can say what they want. There is no Political affiliation between us and them nor the alleged activities they seem to promote as the United States show! Please research for yourselves, The Yamassee Nation has stood on it's on! (Please See http://www.yamasseenation.org)

...Do you sell membership?
Ans: 100% No.
You have to Petition our Tribe which is $54 and show you are Blood related to us

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FB page and their "chief."
https://www.facebook.com/Yamassee.Nation
https://www.facebook.com/yamassee
Yamassee Nation's Chief (Mico) Se'khu Holam Hatchitulamiy Yamasi (Hidden Eagle Gentle) English translation. Born August 25th, 1974 on Davis Island, Florida to Current Grand Matriarch Brenda (Red Crow Thunderbird) Mitchell, the daughter of Betty Robinson & Edward James Mitchell. Chief (Mico) Se'khu's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Td7MJ_wQ3s
Seemingly he won't ever appear in public when not in regalia.

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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2014, 06:01:36 am »
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Seemingly he won't ever appear in public when not in regalia.

Lol! That must make for some interesting exchanges with the neighbors when he takes the dog for a walk or goes for a burger at the McDonald's drive-in.
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Re: Yamassee Nation of Florida/Yamasee Muscogee Nation
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2014, 04:40:58 pm »
Their chief.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79075406/Principal-Chief-Sekhu-Hidden-Eagle-Gentle-Yamassee-Muskogee-Nation

One of the supposed elders "Zapheneath Sun Eagle" talking about Gentle. Articles about Moorish pseudo science, power animals, and sovereign citizen claims
http://www.scribd.com/Thunderbird19

Legal gibberish in a court case he tried to pull in Canada.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/108868357/I-Chief-nanya-Shaabu-El-R-c-TM-AM-NOT-and-have-NEVER-been-an-OPCA-Litigant-pdf

Very strange case of attempted murder accusations.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97238968/Stamped-Original-Ken-Youth-Henry-Will-2004

The elder clearly says he's part of the At Sik Hata splinter of the Nuwaubians.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96541080/fax-to-irs-statement-of-claim-habeaus-corpus-ucc8-505

His reposting Nuwaubian leader York's book.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/57145161/The-Gold-Book-by-Dr-Malachi-York

Seku Gentle filed an intent to petition with the BIA in 2011. Claims to be a dr.

The main Nuwaubians make some claims about him. See comments.
http://nuwaubian.blogspot.com/2013/10/tone-ceremony-are-you-attending.html

Gentle is currently a wanted man.
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http://crimestop.us/listingview.php?listingID=965
Sekhu Amun Gentle
Last Name: Gentle    Height: 602    Weight: 230  Hair Color: Black
AKA: Mr. Gentle     Race: African-American     Sex: male     Age: 36 
Wanted for: Bail Jumping
First Name: Sekhu     County: Monroe     Status: Wanted 
General Information: Wanted by the Monroe County Sheriffs Office for Bail Jumping.

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News 12 at 6 o'clock / Monday, Dec. 16, 2013

ALLENDALE, S.C. (WRDW) -- You don't have to look hard to spot the 'No Trespassing' signs. They're nailed to trees and sign posts along a portion of Lawton Drive in Allendale County. The quiet neighborhood outside the Town of Allendale is actually an Indian reservation: The Yamassee Indian Reservation.

But just days ago, the Yamassee tribe was raided by cops. Deputies believe a two-year-old child is being harbored in the Indian community illegally.

"The child is there, out there somewhere, but they will not give the child up, which means they're violating this court order," says Lt. Steven Robinson with the Allendale County Sheriff's Office.

A Philadelphia County court order says the child should be returned to her mother immediately. The order says the child is believed to be with its putative father, Chief Sekhu Gentle of the Yamassee tribe.

Even though the South Carolina State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) and Allendale County Sheriff's Office raided the reservation just days ago, Lt. Robinson says the child still hasn't been found.

"We understand that they openly admitted to having the child but will not relinquish the child to law enforcement," he says.

Robinson says it's believed the tribe is trying to take custody of the child through the Indian Child Welfare Act, a federal law that seeks to keep American Indian children with American Indian families.

"However, they're not recognized as an Indian tribe," says Robinson, who says he got the information from experts in Washington, D.C. "They have also not even applied for the recognition as an Indian tribe."

But the tribe's website says they do have a right to take children back, and it says "failure of a state court to recognize this right of intervention constitutes an act of genocide against the tribe as a minority group, and because the status of our constant warring and violation of treaties made with our people with the United States has never been resolved, the failure to acknowledge these Tribal Rights constitutes a War Crime."

However, Lt. Robinson maintains that the Yamassee in Allendale County are not a recognized tribe, thus not a sovereign power, and so they must still abide by state and federal laws. He says more charges and arrests could result. Lt. Robinson doesn't characterize the case as a kidnapping, however, he says the Sheriff's Office is still in talks with the Solicitor's Office to determine proper charges.

Robinson says he believes the child is safe.

The mother, Bilqiys Muhammad of Pennsylvania, has created a $1,000 reward for anyone who helps law enforcement capture Chief Gentle and return her child. A wanted poster she created says Sekhu was last seen driving a 1996 Ford F-150 that is green in color or a white Chevrolet pick-up truck. The poster says both vehicles have a Yamassee Indian Tribe stuck on the side of them.

In addition, two suspects have already been arrested by SLED agents for Custodial Intervention. Robinson says the two told agents, during the raid, that they would not assist in turning over the child to authorities.

News 12 tried to contact Chief Gentle but never heard back. An attorney for the tribe did not provide comment before airtime.