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Ancient Paths of Shastina
http://www.ancientpathsofshastina.com/about-us/
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"I am only a witness. A guide along the way, pointing in a direction only you can see. I am The Watcher, The Spirit of The Path." (Red Hawk)
I first heard these words when I began "walking the path." They seemed to come from everywhere-- the animals, the rocks, the plants, the wind. The land is alive with spirit, if you experience this as I have, you'll never be the same.
The rock walls here, in Shastina, have been said to have been built by Pioneers, Native Americans, the Chinese, The Portuguese, Otherworldly Beings and everything in between. The truth is, no one really knows, though they've been clearly venerated and utilized by past Indigneous Peoples for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
There is something mysterious and special going on here.
Many days and nights, I have grappled with revealing these places to the rest of the world. My goal is to see them protected. Without notariety to put a name to them, they are at risk of desecration as the world moves forward without notice of their presence. I walk a fine line with a great responsibility. But my feeling is they have a job to do. Their purpose-- to strengthen and uplift us, even change us into awake and compassionate human beings-- better guardians of each other and the Earth.
I know in my life, this has been so.
During these extremely troubled times of both spiritual and physical upheaval, everyone needs to find the peace that can be experienced through the Loving Earth and a connection with The Cosmos. It is my fondest hope that I can be there, "be there," as a loving witness to others seeking this. I am not The Healer, I am not The Wise Woman, I am not The Shaman-- as Red Hawk says: "I am only The Watcher, The Guide along the path."
Walk in beauty,
Alyssa Alexandria RunsWithWolves
An experienced hiker, Alyssa was raised with wilderness awareness by a family of outdoorsmen with Indian sensibilites. Born of Modoc lineage on her paternal side and a descendent of naturalist John Muir on her maternal, her love of wild and open spaces has kept her close to the land all her life. Her brother, Tom, still holds family land at Witchepec, located in the Hoopa Valley Indian Reservation.
Witchepec; 1978, Grandfather Den's cabin.
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Alyssa has CPR and extensive first aid training and carries GPS and cellular for any emergency needs.
Every precaution is taken for your safety and peace of mind.
(art credit; The Crow/Kirby Sattler) """""""
RED HAWK EXPERIENCE
http://www.ancientpathsofshastina.com/red-hawk-experience/
""""DETAILS: The guest will recieve a Sage blessing and relaxing guided meditation. After, a trail brunch of fruit and cheese will be enjoyed along with "story talk" as we take in the breath taking views and Mount Shasta's infamous Great Vortex energy.
This experience can also be scheduled for sunrise.
Red Hawk is a 3 hour experience; 150.00 US per person. There is a three person limit due to the nature of the site. Sage blessing, guided meditation and brunch included.
Items not to forget: Good hiking shoes/boots, bottled water, sunscreen and hat, warm jackets in Fall and Winter. *Backpacks and hiking sticks are necessary yet provided by request if needed. """""
DIAMOND HEAD AND WINDWALKER EXPERIENCE
http://www.ancientpathsofshastina.com/diamond-head-and-windwalker-ex/
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Diamond Head and Windwalker; full day, 8am-5pm/brunch and lunch, sage blessing and guided meditation included. 225.00 US single guest, 110.00 US for two guests, 90.00 US for three or more guests.
DETAILS:
Upon arrival at Diamond Head's peak, enjoy a sage blessing and relaxing guided meditation, followed by Brunch and "story talk."
There are many petroforms and ancient structures to peruse here, while dowsers can enjoy the unique energy signatures. A brief history of the area as well as its indigenous plants and animals is presented.
The journey continues, following the ancient walls and petroforms down into the small valley below. Bring your cameras as this is home to the legend of "Blue Spirit."
Lunch with "Blue Spirit."
Then, the climb to Windwalker's crest (optional) to meet its guardian; a small stone effigy of The Windwalker. Those who wish to relax and not make the climb are free to enjoy the beauty of "the high meadow," overlooking the hillsides which are filled with the ancient walls cascading across the landscape.
Items required: Backpack, water, walking stick, season dictating-- warm jacket. Sunscreen and hat and in Summer, insect repellent. For those without packs or walking sticks-- please inquire and they will be provided for you.
Don't forget your camera!
Comfortable hiking boots are a "must." This is a low impact, paced hike, yet it is all day. Untested hiking boots can ruin an experience so make sure to come prepared.""""
Ancient Paths of Shastina - The Law
http://www.ancientpathsofshastina.com/the-law/
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http://www.nps.gov/history/local-law/FHPL_ArchRsrcsProt.pdf
http://www.nps.gov/nagpra/mandates/index.htm
The desecration of any area with sacred significance or the removal of any objects related to it is illegal and comes with stiff penalites. It is also an insult to the spiritual foundation of Native Peoples and the "Spirits of Place." Please remember never to touch rock stacks or remove items you may find on the trail.
With deepest respect, we ask you follow these rules while spending time with us at Ancient Paths of Shastina. Remember, you may not "see" the spiritual world, but it "sees" you.
With deepest gratitude in advance for your co-operation,
APOS
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The picture on their website is the discredited image used by Johnny Depp to inspire his Tonto outfit. http://gawker.com/5906868/johnny-depps-tonto-is-based-on-a-white-mans-painting-of-an-imaginary-native-american
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Alexandria says she is of "Modoc lineage." On other websites she says her father was Modoc, but doesn't call herself that. Her ideas seem pretty mixed. Guided meditation is from some kinds of psychology. And her big influence seems to be Carmen Boulter.
Boulter is pretty out there. She and Alexandria both believe in Atlantis and that ancient Egyptians had higher technology than modern people. She also pushes the 2012 hoax...but with ancient Egyptians. Sells spiritual tourism trips to Egypt.
http://www.pyramidcode.com/Trip121212.html
And has made a documentary.
http://www.pyramidcode.com/About.html
Alexandria seems to have also gotten some ideas about "Yugas" from this guy, Joseph Selbie. Instead of thinking logically that the strcutures on mt Shasta were built by Natives, she goes on about Chinese and Portuguese and "Yugas", supposed ancient Hindus who could read minds.
http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/cpakonline/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=37
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Boulter often touts her phd. But it's not in archaelogy, anthropology, or history. It's in education. Training secondary teachers doesn't exactly make her an expert on Egypt.
A nice debunking of Boulter, Alexandria's guru.
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http://blog.cratchit.org/2011/10/why-do-i-do-this-to-myself-at-beginning.html
Dr. Carmen Boulter has the kind of Ph.D. that renders all scholarship suspect and the most outlandish of folk tales credible... in other words, the practically worthless kind. Whether it be giant quartz "crystals" (Dr. Boulter hasn't bothered to pay attention to anyone who can tell her the difference between a crystal and a rock) that act as giant vibrational warm-fuzzy transmitters, or nuggets of esoteric physics like, "sunlight on water... that is energy," Dr. Boulter hasn't met a scientific theory she wouldn't like to replace with a hearty helping of woo.
One thing that's particularly distracting is her love affair with the phrase "Band of Peace", which she apparently uses to refer to the fertile Nile river valley. Do a little experiment for yourself. Using Google, try searching for the phrase "Band of Peace", excluding the name of her program. Here's the search term, and a link for you. I'm excluding only the verbatim phrase "The Pyramid Code"
"Band of Peace" -"The Pyramid Code"
See anything about Egypt or the Nile in what's left? Right. What these results tell me is that she promoting the hell out of a phrase she dug out of her butt. In fairness, she might have dug it out of somebody else's butt... maybe Hakim's. Either way, the constant repetitions give the viewer the distinct impression that if this program does nothing whatsoever but make this moniker stick, then Boulter will have won her own little private Nobel Prize. It's totally in keeping with her trend of replacing any hard science she may find with shit she made up.
The series makes copious use of Abd'El Hakim Awyan, though it didn't do him many favors. Hakim was a doctor in his own right, yet was credited "Indigenous Wisdom Keeper". Not so great for his credibility, but a damn cool title, nonetheless. I'm so going to have that put on a business card. Hakim brings just the right amount of down-home folklore, but is clearly out of his depth when discussing anything to do with physics. The "sunlight on water" quote above is his.
Hakim makes much of the fact that the Khemetic language had no word for "death" and thus the ancient Egyptians could not have been obsessed with death, despite all the pyramids, mummies, tombs, temples, mustabas, etc. Of course, he says that just before he relates the word for death ("they called it 'Westing', as in 'going to the West'). To be sure, the same "no word for death" claim can and has been said of the Teutonic languages; and English-speaking Christians have a score of words for death, and still believe in resurrection. Also, the origins of words often have only a vague connection to contemporary usage; for instance, a person may collect a "salary", though it's been 2,000 years since Roman soldiers were actually paid in salt. So it was unclear to me what this is supposed to prove. Then came my answer.
"The Egyptians obviously had a very different world view from ours today. They believed in the afterlife and the soul's immortality."
Suddenly I understood why Boulter and co. were having so much difficulty with the subject, and it made me very sad. I then sat through the rest of the episode watching their "scientists" treat with utmost credibility the notion that the ancient Egyptians had a physical means of attaining what the archaeologists themselves reject in their everyday lives. These beliefs are common in today's culture. I thoroughly understand being an atheist. I don't understand in the slightest being so blind to the world around you that you don't see the parallels in what you're studying and the millions of people for whom a central portion of this worldview has persisted to the present day. How was it possible for them to be so perplexed?
That question carries forward just in general. I watched the section on reading hieroglyphs with a sincere desire to shout at the screen, "would you stop acting stupid and just present the information?!" Look, if you've got 4,000 hieroglyphs and only 26 letters, it's not a news flash to say that there's not a 1 to 1 correspondence between glyphs and letters. With that number of glyphs, it's pretty safe to assume that we're not talking about a syllabary either. Rather, you're going to have a concept per glyph, as in Chinese. None of this was news even before the Rosetta Stone was discovered. So why does Boulter pretend that this is a revolutionary new understanding of hieroglyphs?
Perhaps she's led astray by Laird Scranton, a computer programmer and amateur anthropologist who, starting from an observation by others that the Dogon people of Africa believed the star Sirius had a companion star, leaped to the conclusion that all of Dogon cosmology is scientifically brilliant, and that their rock paintings of water and eggs and grain should be interpreted as describing quantum mechanics as opposed to, say, a recipe for cake. He estimates the science of their ancients to be at least 50 years in advance of our own... which has enabled them to build mud huts and paint rocks. I weep for our children of 50 years hence. The forward of Scranton's book, Sacred Symbols of the Dogon, lays out his qualifications... hey, he's a software designer! Computers have symbols! Hieroglyphics are symbols! Therefore he's an expert. You can't argue with that kind of logic.
Don't get the idea that there's absolutely nothing of value in this series. There are bits of real scientific information embedded in the video, particularly when Dr. Boulter is not on-screen. I actually feel sorry for the legitimate scientists who share the screen here and there. And I suppose there's some entertainment value in cataloging the myriad forms of woo that appear here. Sadly, the signal-to-noise ratio is so poor that I can't recommend the show to anyone as an introduction to the subject of Egyptology. Get familiar with the subject first, then come back and see what you can pick out.
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Another debunking of Boulter.
http://www.2012hoax.org/the-pyramid-code
The Pyramid Code
What is it?
The Pyramid Code is a five-episode documentary series about how the Egyptians really had high technology, knew about 2012, and actually lived tens of thousands of years before Egyptologists say they did. The whole thing is basically a platform for Carmen Boulter (who never forgets to put a Ph.D in front of her name so you know she's a super-serious authority on the subject, though for some reason we're never actually told what her Ph.D is in) and a bunch of other woo-woos to share their new ages hypotheses. As is common with new agers, it soon becomes apparent that they don't actually understand any of the religions or cultures they claim support their views.
Debunking some of their claims
?The pyramids are not at the center of the Earth's landmass.
?This one should be obvious: if the Egyptians really had advanced technology, why don't we find it among their stuff? If they were actually using lightbulbs, we should find old, used lightbulbs, not just pictures in one pyramid. Where are the remains of the lasers they supposedly cut those holes with?
?The reason no mummies are found in pyramids is because they were moved to more secure/hidden tombs later on to protect them from grave robbers. Furthermore, parts of a mummy were found in a pyramid.
?They act as if nobody wants to consider the possibility that the pyramids weren't built by slaves. In fact, it's common knowledge among reputable Egyptologists these days that the pyramids were not built by slaves. In fact, the tombs of the pyramid builders have been found. About the only people who cling to the belief that the pyramid builders were slaves are those who insist the pyramids were built by the Hebrews - a claim which even the Bible does not make.
?The "helicopters" and "planes" were caused by overlapping hieroglyphs.
?They cite the Baghdad Battery as evidence of the ancient Egyptians having electricity. In fact, the Baghdad battery was a late ancient/early Medieval artifact, newer than the pyramids by millennia. Furthermore, it was found in Baghdad, not Egypt.
?The pyramids are not "in the middle of the continent."
?The lack of soot in the pyramids does not require artificial lighting to explain. They would easily be able to do it in the sunlight by putting in the writings and illustrations before building the next floor.
?After talking about the pyramids being some kind of conductor/generator, they show photos of orbs, then mention that they're "often written off as dust particles in the air, but that does not change the fact that they seem to occur more often in particular places at particular times." Then one of their talking heads goes on about how he took flash photos at some places in Tikal, and they showed up in the areas that were more electrically charged. In fact, it has been demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that orbs are nothing more than motes of dust or water illuminated by a camera's flash. If one pyramid had more orbs than another, it would have been due to dustiness. If an ambient electrical charge had anything to do with it, why aren't photos of electrical substations chock full of orbs? (For the record, electrical substations lose enough energy into the air that you can feel it when you get close to them.)
?In episode three, they claim that the ancient Egyptians had a different worldview from us because they believed in the immortal soul. In fact, belief in the soul or an afterlife of some kind is still the dominant view today.
?They try to make it sound like the Egyptians were unique even in their own day for their beliefs about the soul and afterlife. Aside from the concept of a good afterlife for the good people and punishment for the wicked… not really. The idea that the soul outlives the body predates the Egyptians and was found in many cultures.
?The idea of words working as acronyms is not at all foreign to scholars, as the film implies. They're called pictograms and ideograms, and Egyptologists know full well that the Egyptian writing system is full of them.
?One of the talking heads says that the Egyptian word for "year" really means "time of orbit around the sun." They provide no evidence for this. Keep in mind that we are talking about a culture who envisioned the sun as being pushed across the sky by Ra in the form of a giant dung beetle, or a barge sailed by Ra. The Egyptians were unequivocally geocentrists, like everyone else at the time.
?This article deals with the actual religious beliefs of the Dogon as compared to what some people think the Dogon believe.
?At the beginning of the fourth episode, the narrator asks "how can we unlock the code embedded in every object they made?" Every object?
?One of the talking heads claims that we see a lot of matriarchal cultures if we go back far enough. This is based on a presence of female and goddess statues. Unfortunately, female and goddess statues do not imply matriarchy. Take the ancient Greeks, for example - they had plenty of goddesses and loved them dearly, but they were still extremely misogynist.
?It seems unlikely that a matriarchal society, which they claim Egypt was, would have such a high percentage of male rulers.
?They refer to the Hindu beliefs that humans were far more spiritual in a long-ago era. This is true - they do say they that. They also say a lot of other things that would be harder to swallow: like the belief that when humans were at their most spiritual (the Satya Yuga) they were also somewhere around thirty feet tall and lived 100,000 years. Of course, this is left out of the series.
?The whole "feminine = right brain, masculine = left brain" thing is just New Age nonsense.
?Their list of "masculine" vs. "feminine" traits is absurd. For one, ritual and dogma go hand-in-hand and are not in any way opposites. Science and art aren't opposites, either, any more than apple and rectangle are opposites. If anything, dogma and science are much better opposites. The whole thing is nothing more than sexist nonsense and new age dogma.
?Carmen Boulter calls reading, writing, and arithmetic "masculine" and art and music "feminine," which is more sexist new age nonsense. And where does she get the idea that modern people don't think art and music are important? (In my experience it's WAY more popular than science and whatnot. Our society is unbalanced, all right - in the favor of anti-intellectual turds who think we need to "stand up to those experts.")
?The so-called wisdom keeper claims that the red part of the Egyptian crown symbolizes the womb and placenta, and the white part is the thymus. In fact, the white and red crown was a composite of two different crowns: the white crown worn by the king of Upper Egypt, and the red crown worn by the king of Lower Egypt. When the kingdoms were united, the crowns were merged. The "wisdom-keeper" is either mislead by his teachers, or he's lying through his teeth.
?The flail and crook are agrarian, not biological symbols. The flail and crook symbolize that the pharaoh is respectively provider of food for and shepherd of his people. More information here.
?The pineal gland controls hormones. It has nothing to do with stimulating the evolution of higher states of consciousness (whatever that's supposed to mean) or psychic powers. (The Chernobyl kids who had mutated pineal glands had growth disorders, not out-of-control psychic powers!)
?The Ceremony of the Weighing of the Heart did not happen "in the moments after death." It happened only after the soul managed to navigate a treacherous and dangerous journey through the underworld.
?Carmen Boulter claims that the moral of the Weighing of the Heart was that you have to be light of heart to live well. More New Age fluff. The Weighing of the Heart was essentially Judgement - sin caused the heart to be weighed down, and if the heart wasn't as light as the Feather of Maat (Truth), the soul would be punished by some type of torture ala The Divine Comedy or annihilation.
?The documentary tries to make it out like the only reason Egypt reverted to its old ways of religion after the deaths of Nefertiti and Akhenaten was because of the meanie-weenie greedy patriarchal priests. In fact, the former king and queen had tried to replace Egypt's polytheistic religion with monotheism. The Egyptians did not appreciate having their beloved traditional beliefs outlawed and replaced.
?King Tutankhamun did not die, as they claim, of a blow to the head, but of a leg fracture complicated by infection and malaria. King Tutankhamun was a very unhealthy individual and likely needed a cane to walk, so it wouldn't have taken much to kill him. The damage to the skull was incurred post-mortem, possibly by poor handling of the body. (Article.)
?Aside from the fact that the evidence does not point to King Tutankhamun being murdered by the meanie-weenie greedy patriarchal priests, they would have had no motive: Tutankhamun restored Egypt's traditional religious practices.
?In the fifth episode, the narrator rhetorically asks why we consider civilization to be about 6000 years old. That's a young Earth creationist view, which is a fringe belief, not a mainstream belief. Researchers have discovered signs of civilization older than 6000 years, and they don't hide it.
?A talking head claims that scholars try to minimize the age of Egypt because it fits better with the current paradigm of history, and that their current paradigm is that 5000 years ago, man was hunter-gatherer. Uh, no. It's generally agreed that the age of agriculture started around 10,000 years ago. (Though not everyone switched to an agrarian lifestyle at that time.)
?The narrator points out (correctly) that carbon 14 dating can only be used on organic samples. Then she says that simply touching an organic sample contaminates it. Apparently, only people like those who made this documentary are aware of this fact and the Egyptologists who use C14 dating are completely unaware that each and every sample from Egypt has been contaminated by their ignorant fumblefingers. Really, arguments against traditional dating don't get much more pathetic than this. Scientists know how to account for possible contaminants or other things that would give false results. The idea that each and every sample ever tested just happens to be fatally contaminated is beyond silly.
?The theory of evolution does not "make it unacceptable to admit that a culture that lived long, long before us knew something that we don't know." It doesn't. The theory of evolution only deals with biological organisms, not societies and cultures. (Boulter's assertion probably comes from the misconception that the theory of evolution says life is always getting better and more advanced.)
?They point out that in 550 BC, a bunch of great teachers appeared, like Buddha and Zoroaster. Aside from the fact that you can find great teachers all over the place, Zoroaster's exact time isn't known.
?They try to shoehorn the yugas into the 26,000-year cycle they claimed the Mayans knew about; however this is absurd: one yuga cycle lasts 4,320,000 years. That's four million, three hundred and twenty-thousand years. There is no such thing as a "26,000 year yuga cycle" as she later claims.
?There's no evidence that the Mayans believed in a 26,000 year cycle of any kind.
?A talking head talks about how ancient cultures all talk about how things were so much better way back when and how things are getting worse and worse. Two words: nostalgia filter.
?A talking head claims that the only one of the signs that looks vaguely like what it's supposed to is Leo. This is false and misleading: first of all, Scorpio
looks like a scorpion. If I remember right, different cultures include or disclude different stars, and some astronomers dropped some of them. Furthermore, he's assuming that each and every constellation was intended to look like a literal picture of what it was named after.
?"Instead of rote memorization of facts, what would happen if today's society was taught to expand their capacity to know?" For those who don't know, this "knowing" business is what Stephen Colbert called "truthiness."
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Got a request. Blond woman claiming to be Cherokee and Yurok and supposedly teaching Hopi, Modoc, and Klamath ways.
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https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/about/
SPOTS OF THE FAWN WEBSITE is a personal memoir as well as a cursory look at a documented study of a prehistoric sacred site, known as a ceremonial way. While scouting, photographing and mapping this location over a period of 8 years, the author began to experience what is known to the mainstream as "the paranormal."
....The Hopi called them Spots of the Fawn.
....Vision questing is an ancient method of altering one's state of consciousness and becoming visionary in order to perceive "the spirits."
....It is the author's feeling that while working in the site now known as Severed Hand, she experienced involuntary altered states of consciousness.
....My name, Adisi Waya, translates to "Running Wolf" in Tsalagi. I was not raised in a Christian household. I was raised in a modern world devoid of religion by one half of my family, and in a traditional Yurok world every summer with my Grandfather in Wecpus/Weitchpec on the shores of The Klamath River.
A mixed blood, I am both white and First Nations. I am Cherokee Aniyunwiya by blood and Yurok, Pue-liklo’ or “Down-River-Indian,” by family ties. I was schooled at a young age in wilderness tracking and awareness by a Modoc family friend, as well as schooled in the tradition of “Crying for Luck,” what the mainstream calls vision questing, from an indigenous Klamath perspective by my Grandfather.
....In 1830-1850 my Rhea County TN Aniyunwiya ancestors walked the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma and then traveled across the continent to reach the Northwest coast. There they found themselves on what is now the Hoopa Valley Reservation, embraced by Karuk, Yurok, Modoc, Hupa and other indigenous Klamath peoples. They settled within a tiny pocket of Northwest people, the Yurok, who just like the Eastern tribes and the Aniyunwiya, thousands of miles away, also spoke a variation of the ancient Algonquin language. My family still holds land on the river at the foot of Bald Hills.
Spending time in the Klamath area my childhood was filled with stories, teachings and legends. It was also filled with archaeology and ancient Pre-Contact traditional structures used for vision questing, "crying for luck" and medicine making...
I am not a degreed archaeologist or anthropologist; I am not a scientist. I possess a mere seventh grade math level at best.
....Today, you can find me on the border of Pinchot-Gifford National Forest, with my two dogs, as I care for my 90 year old mother, a great-grand-niece of naturalist, author, and conservator John Muir.
....I do not study or practice any native cultural aspects outside that which I have family ties to. I practice medicine making, or doctoring, in a traditional way. It is an indigenous version rooted firmly in my own culture of which I have inherited; my birthright.
....I do not charge in any way for my writing, my experiences, medicine making, or knowledge. It is my personal feeling that these gifts cannot be sold. All proceeds from this book will be donated to tribal foundations.
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Her full name is Alyssa Alexandria Jane Barlow. She is a trustee of the Thomas D Barlow Jr and Donna M Barlow Trust of 1992, which involves land in Skamania county, WA.
She has past married surnames. But in the trust documents of 2017, she is Alyssa Alexandria Jane Barlow.
Born in 1959, Sonoma CA.
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THOMAS BARLOW: [CITY Edition]
Tesconi, Tim. The Press Democrat; Santa Rosa, Calif. [Santa Rosa, Calif]19 Aug 2005: B2.
Thomas Denman Barlow Jr., a descendant of pioneer Sonoma County ranching families and, for many years, a prominent apple processor in Sebastopol, died Monday at his home in Sebastopol. He was 80.
Barlow was diagnosed with esophagal cancer in July.
An astute businessman, Barlow operated the Barlow Co. for more than 50 years. The company produced applesauce and juice under the Barlow label at the landmark site at the east entrance to Sebastopol.
The Barlow Co. was one of two surviving apple processors in western Sonoma County as the once mighty apple industry declined from 20,000 acres at its peak to 3,000 acres today. Barlow went out of business in 2004.
Even when he was in his late 70s, Barlow showed up at the apple processing plant every day to oversee operations, a routine that ended with the sale of the plant. The facility now processes high- end food products for Santa Rosa-based Summerfield Foods.
"The apple processing company was his life. He hardly ever took a day off from work because he was so dedicated to his business," said his wife of 59 years, Donna Barlow of Sebastopol.
The Barlows were high school sweethearts at Analy High School. Barlow was drafted into the Army after high school, serving in Europe during World War II. He served with the Lost Battalion and was awarded a Purple Heart for bravery.
The Barlows were married in 1946.
Barlow was born Feb. 22, 1925, in Sebastopol, the son of Thomas Denman Barlow and Grace Meeker Barlow. The Barlows grew apples and were early leaders in the apple industry. Barlow's father and uncle developed the first processing plant in Sebastopol to market fresh, frozen, dehydrated and canned apples, as well as cider and vinegar.
In 1948, Barlow started his own apple processing company in partnership with his sister, Charlotte Barlow O'Brien. He continued to own and operate the company after his sister's retirement. Barlow's son, Thomas D. Barlow III, later worked in the family business, which included making products for private labels and the Barlow brands.
For many years, Barlow was active in industry organizations that promoted Sebastopol apples, including the Sebastopol Apple Growers Association and the Gravenstein Apple Coordinating Council.
Barlow didn't believe in joining service clubs but quietly helped his company's employees or people in the community who needed assistance. He was a member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars and served a term on the Sonoma County grand jury.
In addition to his wife, he is survived by his son Thomas Barlow of Sebastopol; daughters Gayle Howard of Sebastopol and Alyssa Barlow; seven grandchildren and two great-grandchildren.
I'm relatively confident that this is our Alyssa. She currently is taking care of her mother Donna in WA state and I can see in public records that they are a family with money.
I believe this is her:
"You can't predict nature, no matter how long you've been in the business," says Alyssa Barlow Shott, co-owner of the Barlow Company processing plant in Sebastopol.
The Press Democrat; Santa Rosa, Calif. [Santa Rosa, Calif]15 Aug 1997: B.1. That is one of her married names, found in public records, same birthdate.
She refers to "Grandpa Den" https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/about/ - her grandfather was Thomas Denman Barlow Sr.
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I've confirmed all this in a unique fashion, never experienced this in research before. She has location and animal photos on her web site.
These match photos on a real estate site, which confirms a current address, and that leads to confirmation of her name.
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Here's Alyssa's father's side of the family. The side she claims her Indian blood. I have gone back as far as 1837 and they are all white.
Thomas D Barlow
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
VIEW 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas D Barlow
Birth Year: abt 1925
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1930: Analy, Sonoma, California, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Dwelling Number: 89
Family Number: 89
Attended School: Yes
Father's Birthplace: California
Mother's Birthplace: California
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas D Barlow 28
Grace E Barlow 26
Charlotte L Barlow 6
Thomas D Barlow 5
Thomas D Barlow
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
VIEW 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas D Barlow
Birth Year: abt 1902
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Analy, Sonoma, California, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Dwelling Number: 89
Family Number: 89
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: Yes
Age at First Marriage: 23
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: California
Mother's Birthplace: California
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: Fruit and Dairy
Class of Worker: Employer
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas D Barlow 28
Grace E Barlow 26
Charlotte L Barlow 6
Thomas D Barlow 5
Grace E Barlow
the 1930 United States Federal Census
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Name: Grace E Barlow
Birth Year: abt 1904
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Analy, Sonoma, California, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Dwelling Number: 89
Family Number: 89
Age at First Marriage: 21
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: California
Mother's Birthplace: California
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas D Barlow 28
Grace E Barlow 26
Charlotte L Barlow 6
Thomas D Barlow 5
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Here are the great grandparents. Thomas D. Barlow Sr.'s father died in 1904 so he does not show up in the 1910 census. But I will include his death notice. Also the 1900 census before Thomas D Barlow born. They are all white.
Thomas D Barlow
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
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Name: Thomas D Barlow
Age in 1910: 8
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: California
Home in 1910: Analy, Sonoma, California
Street: Accidental & Laula Rosa Road
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: California
Mother's name: Laura E Barlow
Mother's Birthplace: California
Native Tongue: English
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Laura E Barlow 40
Mary E Barlow 18
Annie M Barlow 16
Warren L Barlow 14
Laura L Barlow 12
Thomas D Barlow 8
Wilber J Barlow 6
Laura E Barlow
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Laura E Barlow
Age in 1910: 40
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: California
Home in 1910: Analy, Sonoma, California
Street: Accidental & Laula Rosa Road
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: Fruit
Employer, Employee or Other: Employer
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Farm or House: Farm
Attended School: No
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Number of Children Born: 6
Number of Children Living: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Laura E Barlow 40
Mary E Barlow 18
Annie M Barlow 16
Warren L Barlow 14
Laura L Barlow 12
Thomas D Barlow 8
Wilber J Barlow 6
Thomas Edgar Barlow
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Thomas Edgar Barlow
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1867
Birth Place: Two Rock, Sonoma County, California, United States of America
Death Date: 23 Aug 1904
Death Place: Santa Rosa, Sonoma County, California, United States of America
Cemetery: Santa Rosa Odd Fellows Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Santa Rosa, Sonoma County, California, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: Solomon Quimby Barlow
Mother: Elizabeth J. Barlow
Spouse: Laura Ellen Barlow
Children: Thomas Denman Barlow
Laura Louise Fehrensen
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
Thomas E Barlow
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
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Name: Thomas E Barlow
Age: 33
Birth Date: Feb 1867
Birthplace: California
Home in 1900: Analy, Sonoma, California
House Number: 362
Sheet Number: 16
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 359
Family Number: 366
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Laura E Barlow
Marriage Year: 1891
Years Married: 9
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Occupation: Farmer
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: M
Farm or House: F
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas E Barlow 33
Laura E Barlow 30
Mary E Barlow 8
Annie M Barlow 6
Warren L Barlow 4
Laura L Barlow 2
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Here are the GG parents in the 1880 census. We are now all the way back to the 1830s and I'm not going to go any further. GGG parents are from New York, Iowa, Pennsylvania and Ohio. All white
Thomas E. Barlow
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
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Name: Thomas E. Barlow
Age: 13
Birth Date: Abt 1867
Birthplace: California
Home in 1880: Petaluma, Sonoma, California, USA
Street: Howard
House Number: 211
Dwelling Number: 341
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Soloman Q. Barlow
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Louisa E. Barlow
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Occupation: At School
Attended School: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Soloman Q. Barlow 43
Louisa E. Barlow 38
Eva R. Barlow 19
Annie D. Barlow 14
Fannie D. Barlow 14
Thomas E. Barlow 13
Libbie L. Barlow 10
Soloman Q. Barlow
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
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Name: Soloman Q. Barlow
Age: 43
Birth Date: Abt 1837
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1880: Petaluma, Sonoma, California, USA
Street: Howard
House Number: 211
Dwelling Number: 341
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Louisa E. Barlow
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Soloman Q. Barlow 43
Louisa E. Barlow 38
Eva R. Barlow 19
Annie D. Barlow 14
Fannie D. Barlow 14
Thomas E. Barlow 13
Libbie L. Barlow 10
Louisa E. Barlow
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
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Name: Louisa E. Barlow
Age: 38
Birth Date: Abt 1842
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1880: Petaluma, Sonoma, California, USA
Street: Howard
House Number: 211
Dwelling Number: 341
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Soloman Q. Barlow
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Occupation: Keeping House
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Soloman Q. Barlow 43
Louisa E. Barlow 38
Eva R. Barlow 19
Annie D. Barlow 14
Fannie D. Barlow 14
Thomas E. Barlow 13
Libbie L. Barlow 10
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Solomon Q Barlow and his ancestors are covered in History of Sonoma County, California by Tom Gregory
https://books.google.com/books?id=A4FUM7jX_UMC&pg=PA584&lpg=PA584&dq=Soloman+Q.+Barlow&source=bl&ots=-jnldSRRic&sig=LmFCb6T634p7O9O5G6MKL7WSALI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjdmf6RnpDZAhUE62MKHTV2CGEQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=Soloman%20Q.%20Barlow&f=false
This Barlow family is said to be originally from England. Solomon Q Barlow traveled from NJ to Sonoma county. His first marriage was to Elizabeth J Denman. That name Denman has been carried down through generations. His second marriage to Louise E Brandon, which is the Louisa E Barlow in Diana's census work here.
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Thanks Piff! Good catch.
Elizebeth Barlow
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
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Name: Elizebeth Barlow
Age in 1870: 38
Birth Year: abt 1832
Birthplace: New York
Dwelling Number: 730
Home in 1870: Petaluma, Sonoma, California
Race: White
Gender: Female
Occupation: Keeping House
Inferred Spouse: Solomon Barlow
Inferred Children: Eva R Barlow
Annie Barlow
Household Members:
Name Age
Solomon Barlow 33
Elizebeth Barlow 38
Eva R Barlow 9
Annie Barlow 5
Fannie Barlow 5
Thomas E Barlow 3
Libbie L Barlow 4/12
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When this person's new book comes out finally, she states that just like her other books, all proceeds will go to various tribes. This is not happening. She is living on both her mothers trust and the proceeds so I do not believe she has donated anything. As for being native, I hope her being a fraud comes out for all to see. I do not like liars or condone this behavior for any reason. thank you to all that investigated this and got answers to my questions.
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In 1830-1850 my Rhea County TN Aniyunwiya ancestors walked the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma and then traveled across the continent to reach the Northwest coast. There they found themselves on what is now the Hoopa Valley Reservation, embraced by Karuk, Yurok, Modoc, Hupa and other indigenous Klamath peoples. They settled within a tiny pocket of Northwest people, the Yurok, who just like the Eastern tribes and the Aniyunwiya, thousands of miles away, also spoke a variation of the ancient Algonquin language. My family still holds land on the river at the foot of Bald Hills
Whackadoodle Alyssa is either flat out lying or she's delusional. Here's her side of the Tennessee family, starting with her great grandmother Laura Ellen Miller Barlow. I've already posted her genealogy from a 1910 census here http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5141.msg44736#msg44736 . She's white.
Laura Ellen Miller Barlow
BIRTH 27 Aug 1869 Sonoma County, California, USA
DEATH 6 Jan 1959 Sonoma County, California, USA
BURIAL Santa Rosa Odd Fellows Cemetery Santa Rosa, Sonoma County, California, USA
PLOT Lot 1, Grave 2
MEMORIAL ID 96887859
Family Members
Parents
Thomas Bell Miller
1826–1892
Mary A Miller
1835–1904
Spouse
Thomas Edgar Barlow*
1867–1904
Siblings
Charlotte Elizabeth Miller Parnell*
1857–1944
Hanna Louisa Miller Purrington*
1861–1936
Irene Bell Miller Ballard*
1864–1955
Josephine Miller Grogan*
1866–1960
Robert Leland Miller*
1876–1881
Children
Laura Louise Barlow Fehrensen*
1897–1966
Thomas Denman Barlow*
1901–1995
Wilbur James Barlow*
1903–1971
Santa Rosa Odd Fellows Cemetery
Santa Rosa
Sonoma County
California
USA
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Laura Barlow in Newspapers
Here is the history of Alyssa's great great Tennessee grandfather Thomas B. Miller. It clearly shows that the Miller family was never on the trail of tears.
https://books.google.com/books?id=A4FUM7jX_UMC&pg=PA956&lpg=PA956&dq=%22Thomas+Bell+Miller%22&source=bl&ots=-jnm7RULc9&sig=7iPZ8ZrwpnppRZKQhJpHDuXF0Rk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS6oTb05vZAhUp5YMKHYNTAk0Q6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=%22Thomas%20Bell%20Miller%22&f=false
Also here's a census record from 1850 for the Miller family residing in Arkansas.
Thomas Miller
in the 1850 United States Federal Census
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Name: Thomas Miller
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1850: Beatie, Benton, Arkansas, USA
Gender: Male
Family Number: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
J P Miller 46
Charlottie Miller 46
Thomas Miller 22
Gideon Miller 21
Robert Miller 18
Elizabeth Miller 15
Jacob Miller 9
Margarett Walker 30
Charlottie Walker 5
John Walker 2
A M McCorkle 23
Source Citation
Year: 1850; Census Place: Beatie, Benton, Arkansas; Roll: M432_25; Page: 49B; Image: 101
Also one more census record for the miller family 1870 census California. They are all white.
1870 United States Federal Census
VIEW 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Thos B Miller
Age in 1870: 43
Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Tennessee
Dwelling Number: 52
Home in 1870: Washington, Sonoma, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Male Citizen Over 21: Y
Personal Estate Value: 4010
Real Estate Value: 5000
Inferred Spouse: Mary A Miller
Inferred Children: Jas T Miller
Charlotte E Miller
Thos B Miller
Sarah L Miller
Mary A Miller
Arena B Miller
Josephine Miller
Laura E Miller
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos B Miller 43
Mary A Miller 35
Jas T Miller 15
Charlotte E Miller
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"In 1830-1850 my Rhea County TN Aniyunwiya ancestors walked the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma and then traveled across the continent to reach the Northwest coast. There they found themselves on what is now the Hoopa Valley Reservation, embraced by Karuk, Yurok, Modoc, Hupa and other indigenous Klamath peoples. They settled within a tiny pocket of Northwest people, the Yurok, who just like the Eastern tribes and the Aniyunwiya, thousands of miles away, also spoke a variation of the ancient Algonquin language. My family still holds land on the river at the foot of Bald Hills"
Whackadoodle Alyssa is either flat out lying or she's delusional. Here's her side of the Tennessee family, starting with her great grandmother Laura Ellen Miller Barlow....
Laura Barlow in Newspapers
Here is the history of Alyssa's great great Tennessee grandfather Thomas B. Miller. It clearly shows that the Miller family was never on the trail of tears.
https://books.google.com/books?id=A4FUM7jX_UMC&pg=PA956&lpg=PA956&dq=%22Thomas+Bell+Miller%22&source=bl&ots=-jnm7RULc9&sig=7iPZ8ZrwpnppRZKQhJpHDuXF0Rk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS6oTb05vZAhUp5YMKHYNTAk0Q6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=%22Thomas%20Bell%20Miller%22&f=false
Her claims about the languages are simply false. I wonder where she got them. Or did she lie about them just to impress people who didn't know any better.
Cherokee is not Algonquian. It's an Iroquoian language. Yurok is an Algic language, which are related to the Algonquian.
And if her family did own that land in Bald Hills at that time, it'd be pretty damning. The Bald Hills War included massacres of Klamath and Wiyot.
The idea that Cherokee kept going from OK all the way across the plains to the CA coast is ludicrous. There were equally bad forced relocations, sometimes called California's Trail of Tears. Either Barlow is confusing them, or she's trying to confuse others.
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Well, it appears she lies about it all to substantiate and legitimize her writings and interviews. She has been on a radio show called COAST TO COAST and the DJ believes it all. I think people may be afraid to call her out for fear of being called racist. But in my book, a liar is a liar.
I have already been threatened by her with slander but I reminded her slander is when false lies are spread...not truth which is what I am about. Just be proud of who and what you are! I am not native but have friends that are. They don’t appreciate people like, as you say...this wackadoodle!
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Please note the other "research needed" request for Alyssa Adisi Waya Alexandria Barlow that has a new book, "Spots of the Fawn". Her lies just never cease to end!
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Check out another post back in 2012 called "The ancient paths of Shastina" also referencing our lovely author...fake...Alyssa Adisi Waya. At that time she was going by "Running Wolf" not "Adisi Waya".
Just another fake book with fake information claiming to be something she is not. At that time there wasn't the amount of information that there is now about her lineage. But worth the read.
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Check out another post back in 2012 called "The ancient paths of Shastina" also referencing our lovely author...fake...Alyssa Adisi Waya. At that time she was going by "Running Wolf" not "Adisi Waya".
Just another fake book with fake information claiming to be something she is not. At that time there wasn't the amount of information that there is now about her lineage. But worth the read.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg31341#msg31341
Part of the Ancient Paths site in archives https://web.archive.org/web/20120826120032/http://www.ancientpathsofshastina.com
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In a very old post in reference to her other book: "Influenced: Earth's Power Spots the Paranormal", she talks about how her mother was related to John Muir? And now she isn't of Cherokee descent but of Modoc? I am not native, but is that considered related to Cherokee? She just seems to not be able to make up her mind exactly what she is. This was made when her name was: Alyssa Runswithwolves Alexandria. I think she changes her name so that the truth can't really catch up to her or at least makes it harder to keep track of it all.
"Born of Modoc lineage on her paternal side and a descendent of naturalist John Muir on her maternal"
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Modoc are on the other side of the continent, culturally unrelated to the Cherokee though some Modoc were forcibly removed to OK.
The two threads were merged. Moved to Frauds. She clearly has a long history of abuse and falsehoods.
Barlow has joined this forum under the name Mother of a Wolf. I hope she can clear these matters up and defend all the things she's claimed and done over the years. Some of her family line has a distinguished history, no idea why she feels the need to falsify or pretend.
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So in the past she claimed " ... a descendant of naturalist John Muir on her maternal".
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg44772#msg44772
She has refined this to saying that her mother is"a great-grand-niece of naturalist, author, and conservator John Muir".
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/about/
Sure, it could be interesting to be related to John Muir, but I don't see that otherwise this is anything special. This does not mean she has special inherent insight into land, nature, or sacred sites.
John Muir genealogy https://vault.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/people/genealogy_muir.aspx
"By tradition my mother is "white" and I am native" "I have been struggling to understand our lifelong battle of wills and spirits" https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2017/11/8/the-acorn-and-the-blue-jay
She does not get along with her mother. We've seen this before: white people with life challenges who decide that claiming they are indigenous will fix everything.
Along with everything else, I'd like to know where exactly "Severed Hand" is.
"This book centers on a power spot known as Severed Hand, an area the author studied for 8 years, scouting and identifying indigenous archaeology. It is here within this area of study, a prehistoric ceremonial landscape, she experiences chilling and seemingly very real events such as spirit phenomena, UFOs, sky creatures, light anomalies, cryptids, and ghosts of the ancestors; things all witnessed in what appeared to be “ordinary-everyday-reality” while mapping and photographing this extraordinary location for others. "
"Severed Hand is prehistoric and it seems to thematically echo the US Eastern Mound Builder civilization. However, no direct connection has been established. Only, that a small pocket of Algonquin speaking people still inhabit the Klamath."
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/
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Alexandria says she was raised in multiple Native American traditions which taught her that energies flow through the Earth and nature "like water," with the same waves, eddies and vortexes.
Alexandria spent eight years living alone in the Severed Hand Wilderness near Mount Shasta.
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/09/02
I don't see any references to "Severed Hand Wilderness" online other than her own.
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http://thecryptoblast.blogspot.com/2017/06/dr-johnsons-bigfoot-book-fallout.html
The following post was written by a Bigfoot fan and researcher, Alyssa Runswithwolves Alexandria on May 27th on Facebook. In it she clarifies how she does not want people to think she endorsed something blindly; something she doesn't agree with. She did not write “Please enjoy reading his book.” And does not support Dr. Johnson's great reveal that Bigfoot are beings of energy and can turn into trees and shape shift.
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....My first introduction to the community of Bigfooters was at a conference in 2016, hosted by M. Johnson. I lectured about a prehistoric sacred site called Severed Hand that I’d researched for seven years. I scout, document, photograph, and map the archaeology for private individuals as well as measure the natural energies; telluric currents and anomalous magnetic crossing points. I study energy. I study ancient North American cultures. And it’s felt that these special places, such as Severed Hand, have been deliberately built where they are for a reason. People would be (and still are) catapulted into an involuntary altered state where they perceive the supernatural. I certainly have experienced this. It is the special geology, underground water, and mineralogy in these places, working in tandem with the natural earth energies. They effect the brain. However, I am not saying the experiences are not real. I’m saying they have yet to be understood. Especially when physical traces are found of these experiences. Of which, I have also experienced.
To be transparent, I do practice shamanic methodology, so for me, the supernatural is just fine. It’s just another day at the office. And M. Johnson’s conference was all about the supernatural aspects of what the Bigfoot community calls “Forest People.” Forest People are a part of the paranormal lexicon; they remain unexplained but are not defined as Bigfoot within the broad community of researchers and experiencers. Bigfoot, also unexplained, is said to be a flesh and blood relic hominid or undiscovered primate who also “perhaps” exists in our remote forests and wilderness. And then there are some who feel it is the same Being, as in “walks in two worlds.” Something my own culture feels is viable. But I leave it up to you to discern your own judgement, there are no rules or accepted facts to date that I know of. Because no one has scientifically proven Bigfoot exists—or not.
I loved lecturing last year at M. Johnson’s conference, it was a joy. I met many wonderful people. I also met Bob Gimlin, who unlike me, is a flesh and blood Bigfooter by his own admission; he was a part of the infamous “Patty Film Footage.”
....I was first approached in a Facebook PM by Matthew to endorse his book: Bigfoot; a fifty year journey come full circle. I expected to read it first, but he said he hadn’t written yet. I felt rude needing to ask but—and-- I had never been to SOHA, his first location of experiences where the infamous portal event had taken place. I had never been to SOIA, the second location, where many people say they had incredible experiences. But I had been to an in-between site which he said the Forest People had led him to. I was there for an hour; I lived very close to it. I saw a single blue orb. And felt some invisible caring hands on my back. I heard energy whip-zinging through the air much like power lines. I was also aware I was in an altered state just like I would be thrown into, involuntarily, within a Spot of the Fawn; I know the feeling well. I went home thinking—his in-between location was a “wild” Spot of a Fawn; a naturally occurring power spot unaltered by the hand of man. I was stunned.
....The statement below is copied from the FB PM column where it was directly sent to him; I chose not to screen shot it. For me, that would be a vulgar violation of privacy.
“Dr. Johnson’s site is located within a magnetic anomaly and composed of unique geology, minerology and underground water. These things are conductive and respond to the magnetosphere each new day as telluric and magnetic energies run across the landscape to create energetic crossing points—whirling vortices which may someday show to be the ingredients of subtle energy portal manifestation. It’s no secret 100 percent of all sacred sites are built upon these natural hot spots. It’s here our indigenous ancestors reported communication with compassionate ‘other-worldly’ Beings. Since I feel our ancestors genuinely knew what they were talking about—it’s no stretch to believe Dr. Johnson’s testimony of ‘Forest People’ who seem to toggle in and out of ordinary reality. The multiverse is stranger than fiction—we’d be fools to think we knew even a whisper of the secrets it still occults from us.” --Alyssa Runswithwolves Alexandria; author-- Influenced; Earth’s power spots and their influence on the paranormal @ 2017
You can find it on page 12, in its new and revised form by Johnson, in his book.
The last sentence which appears to be written by me was not written by me. The sentence I didn’t write reads “Please enjoy reading his book.” He also added “Bigfoot” to my “Forest People.” It now reads “Bigfoot-Forest People.” As I said above, I didn’t want to portray Bigfoot as interdimensional in respect to another faction of the community who feel Bigfoot is purely flesh and blood. He had changed the core meaning of my statement. I didn’t use the term Bigfoot on purpose; it was deliberate.
So I saw the book for the first time at the conference when it was gifted to me with a thank you. I felt good about giving it; my lecture had been a pleasure to do. I saw my quote and then, felt a little pang of concern. Caught up in the moment of the aftermath of my lecture, I pushed the feeling down until I could gather my wits about it. But then, came The Great Reveal presentation by Johnson. I was stunned. This was not the tale I’d heard from him six months previous, in a brief form over the telephone. It was a new and expanded bombshell form; a form of the story I could not even begin to imagine. He claimed he used a machine to keep a portal open of which 20,000 plus interdimensional “Bigfoot-Forest Persons” escaped from a dying planet to inhabit our world. He called them Xanue. They then transformed into orbs and lived in our trees. Orbs were now "Xanues." He claimed he was “chosen” to do this. He claimed he was also chosen "to teach the Beings." Someone named “Zorth” had told Johnson that within nature lives a creature, to us known as Bigfoot, which he has renamed “Treykons,” who at times cannibalize humans. I did not endorse this type of thing at all. This was an epic rewriting of history, complete with new terms and definitions. I did not endorse this; it was confusing and felt extremely bizarre, even to someone like me. Worse, he’d completely rewritten the entire mythology and history of not only Bigfoot, but the Spirits of Place that many native people revere. He single handedly had eliminated my own indigenous ancestor’s mythology in five hours....
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She also is a screenwriter "Alyssa Alexandria" https://www.screenwritingu.com/june-27-2011-alyssa-alexandria-and-nevada-greys-script-begins-filming-july/ The photo here matches photos of her seen in her Bigfoot enthusiast work. There are other notices of her screenwriting online.
IMDB says she "Played equine polo all over the US and Argentina." http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2980685/
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Her heritage claims have been all on her father's side - Thomas Denham Barlow Jr. (1925 - 2005)
She especially talks about her paternal "Grandpa Den" - this is Thomas Denham Barlow Sr. (1901 - 1995)
Concerning her father, we have here:
his obituary http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg44709#msg44709
census work starting here http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg44735#msg44735
Here he is in United States World War II Army Enlistment Records:
Name Thomas D Jr Barlow
Name (Original) BARLOW THOMAS D JR
Event Type Military Service
Event Date 21 Dec 1943
Term of Enlistment Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Event Place San Francisco, California, United States
Race White
Citizenship Status citizen
Birth Year 1925
Birthplace 90
Education Level 4 years of high school
Marital Status Single, without dependents
Military Rank Private
Army Branch No branch assignment
Army Component Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source Reference Civil Life
Serial Number 39145601
Affiliate ARC Identifier 1263923
Box Film Number 13976.163
(accessed through familysearch.org which now requires free membership account for searches)
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Well, it is apparent that there is a lot of information here that just does not jive with everything that Ms Barlow has been stating for many years in her writings and interviews.
In one of her statements she spent 7 years living out in "Severed Hand" researching the prehistoric site, then it was 8 years doing the same in another statement. Then one time she is Modoc, then the next, she is enrolled Cherokee. Then her mother is "white" but she is "native" (in the same sentence). I am so confused. There also seems to be absolutely no record in her ancestry that anyone is Native, as they are all registered as "white" by the census takers, back to the early 1800's.
To top it off, nobody can seem to find any record of this site called "Severed Hand" near Mt Shasta.
In the earliest thread started back in 2011 there were some "tours", for a lack of a better description, that Ms Barlow was charging her patrons to take them up into these areas of spirituality and do some "story telling" and burn some sage. I was under the impression that Native Americans do not charge money to take part in any of their customs, if they so choose to share them. For instance, spending time in a sweat lodge, but for that belief, I could be mistaken.
Anyway, I look forward to "Mother of a Wolf" to clue us all in on why the need to misrepresent at all? ???
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Very interesting Google search today found more than (5) different variances of Ms Barlow's name on Facebook, one of them even in supposed Cherokee language. She just continues the delusion without addressing the publics concerns about false representation. when a person uses many different names it makes them look like they are trying to hide something? :-[
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She is not happy with us.
THE SLANDERING OF A FAMILY’S HISTORY
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
She seems to assume that everyone researching are actually only one person. She refers to discussion as "public defamation".
Some useful parts:
Accusation one: In 2010 I referred to Modoc lineage which to me meant “traditional lineal knowledge.” It was in reference, specifically, to the art of tracking animals and people of which I learned from a neighbor at Wecpus we called “Uncle.” It was on a hiking website and used incorrectly by me; in ignorance. The website existed for a brief few months until 2011 and then was deleted. ... I am not Modoc.
Accusation two: I have no Cherokee heritage. I have always understood that federal census records conflict with stories and information shared with me by my father and grandfather. Tracing the lines of a family’s mixed ancestry is an extraordinarily difficult and challenging task, even for a professional genealogist. ... My world-view and understanding of my family’s heritage and ancestry was shaped through the stories, experiences and memories of growing up with my grandfather–not a notation in a government census record.
This is inaccurate. The Cherokee people are very well documented. Professional Cherokee genealogists can do this work.
What community claims her?
As a child, I spent every summer on the Reservation with my Grandfather who rooted me in Yurok traditions; it has shaped my life in a profound way. My Grandfather was a part of the Klamath community, participated in the ceremonies, made his own canoes for the Boat Dances and “lived Indian” for 8 months out of the year. One complaint of Native Purists is if you don’t grow up on a reservation, you are not Indian. Fact is, I did grow up on a reservation; every summer of my life from 1959 to around 1972. My Grandfather was not Yurok. He, of course, was Cherokee and was embraced by the Yurok community. No one in our family is enrolled Cherokee and for Cherokee Peoples that is accepted and respected openly.
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
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Alyssa, after all this, if you still believe that you have"my Rhea County TN Aniyunwiya ancestors" http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg44766#msg44766 - there is a solution.
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
The Enrollment Office provides a Cherokee genealogy research service searching records prior to the 1924 Baker Roll. These records date back to 1835 and enumerate the members of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians within the limits of North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. This service does not aid in determining eligibility for enrollment with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.
https://ebci.com/enrollment/
If you think you have heritage from elsewhere, you can have professional research done on that.
Cherokees are among the best documented people in the world.
What all real Cherokees have in common is proof of ancestry whether they can enroll or not.
https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/news/opinions/an-open-letter-to-defenders-of-andrea-smith-clearing-up-misconceptions-about-cherokee-identification/
You've made yourself a public figure, you've claimed that you have special insight because of claimed Cherokee heritage. So all of that can be researched and discussed. Research is part of media literacy and consumer safety.
Everything posted here in this thread is from public sources: newspaper archives, google search, find a grave, ancestry.com, family search, local history books, internet archives, and people's own knowledge.
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I will not deny that I am proud of my Aryan ancestry;
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
ARYAN? :o :o
Who talks like that?!
I think we all know.
I feel sorry for the nons she fools with this madness. Natives aren't fooled.
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She actually did write the following, in her own words.
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Anyone can change who they are; anytime, anywhere....
I have done it many times. I have no shame and do not apologize....
And mark it—if I were to ever stab someone in the back I would look them in the eye as I do....
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And that's not the only contortion she did.
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....much of my life and my mother's life, including our tax worth, property ownership and estate information were posted. Following that were my personal pen names and married names. To add were my father’s WW2 records and why those records were necessary I will never fathom.
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First sentence is false. Second and third are true and the reason why is obvious. No gov't agency, including the military, has ever recorded your family as NDN. And the Cherokee are THE most documented tribe, ever.
Guess what else she claims?
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I will not deny that I am proud of my Aryan ancestry....
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So she's as ignorant of her European heritage as she is of her claimed NDN. Thus she falls for downright Nazi pseudo science claims.
Then she posts a handwritten letter allegedly from her elderly mother. Of course her mother is not Native. She does claim her husband was...because he wore a loincloth. Because he hunted and fished, he must've been NDN, according to her. That millions of rural whites do the same never occurs to her. She also says "...no one would have accepted him had he not been of Indian extraction." Nonsense.
She also claims her husband told her daughter stories about Bigfoot. But that's not what Cherokee called the giants in stories from their tradition. That's what white outsiders call them.
There's also some very unsubtle threats on that post, barely masked by claiming "ancestors and spirits defend themselves" and then posting supposedly scary paintings of "Native" spirits halfway between Franklin Mint paintings and cheesy horror films.
Made up versions of ancestors don't "defend." Esp since they were never attacked. You were criticized for obvious silly lies Ms. Barlow. That your father may have told them too doesn't excuse you. And only the white Nuage versions of NDN spirits act like a character from a Hollywood slasher.
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ARYAN? :o :o
Who talks like that?!
I think we all know.
Guess what else she claims?
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I will not deny that I am proud of my Aryan ancestry....
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So she's as ignorant of her European heritage as she is of her claimed NDN. Thus she falls for downright Nazi pseudo science claims.
I was compiling this while the above comments were posted:
I will not deny that I am proud of my Aryan ancestry; it is an important part of me.
As a Scandinavian European, I really wonder if Alyssa Barlow etc. knows what she actually is referring to? The term Aryan (referring to race or ethnicity) is outdated, discredited, and not upheld by scholars:
Nazism and white supremacy
During the 19th century it was proposed that "Aryan" was also the self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Europeans.[8] Based on speculations that the Proto-Indo-European homeland was located in northern Europe, a 19th-century hypothesis which is now abandoned, the word developed a racialist meaning.[8] It has been used in Nazi racial theory to describe persons corresponding to the "Nordic" physical ideal of Nazi Germany (the "master race" ideology).
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_race
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_race
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She is using her Facebook page to rally misguided supporters https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9
According to her, she is a holy martyr and critics are persecuting her. In comments people claim that critics are psychopaths.
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She is using her Facebook page to rally misguided supporters …
https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9/posts/160328391434828
Not here, nor in the original article linked to, is there any mention of or referring to NAFPS …
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She is using her Facebook page to rally misguided supporters …
https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9/posts/160328391434828
Not here, nor in the original article linked to, is there any mention of or referring to NAFPS …
She is talking about us, especially about one poster here, all without giving a link to this site or explicitly saying NAFPS. She refers to us as a "native watch site". https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
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She is talking about us, especially about one poster here, all without giving a link to this site or explicitly saying NAFPS. She refers to us as a "native watch site". https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
I realized that, my point being that she doesn't really want people to come here and maybe change opinions from their preconceived notions. I hope one of her Facebook friends (or someone else) will be curious and investigative enough to add a link there to this thread in the NAFPS forum.
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I realized that, my point being that she doesn't really want people to come here and maybe change opinions from their preconceived notions. I hope one of her Facebook friends (or someone else) will be curious and investigative enough to add a link there to this thread in the NAFPS forum.
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Good point, yes it would be great for folks to come here and fact check. She makes several claims about our research that are outright false.
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I have watched the views on this post spike in the past two days so I have no doubt that several of her FB minions have discovered the other side of the Alyssa delusion coin but sadly they are so busy with their “blessings” and afraid of her sharp tongue and one sided threats they won’t say a word against her. But I am satisfied that many of my suspicions are true and that her delusions are just that...delusions!
So, Alyssa, since I know you are reading every post here, why not respond here? Or allow your FB followers to read this thread?
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She seems to neglect the fact that this thread was started in 2012. Since she has an account here I don't know why she's not addressing any issues she has here in the forums unless she is completely aware of her dishonesty and has nothing to say to clarify any of the documentation presented.
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Sadly, Alyssa will never respond to anyone if there is a chance they could or likely would respond back. She is only comfortable in her little "blog" or her Facebook that is locked up. She is also not above telling stories or exaggerating her delusion to her FB followers.
That's okay, because the truth is now out there for all to see and she can run and "shapeshift" her Aryan self whereever she wants, but it will never change the facts that have been reported here.
So, Alyssa, say what you want, the truth will set you free.
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I am disgusted but not shocked that the audacity of this woman that just never ends. She is now claiming to be a doctoring practitioner and "medicine woman". Is this even legal? I know it is unethical but can she legally claim this? She is out of control! She has also informed her Army son that if he does not divorce his wife of 9 months, with two step children that she will make sure he gets none of "grandmas money" from her Will. That makes me want to vomit that a "mother" behaves this way. I believe in God, to each his own and I believe that once you are married, that your spouse is who you are bound to...not mommy dearest.
Check out this newest crazy:
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/alyssa+adisi+waya/keywords_search
Facebook post:
"Shawn Whittington? to Vegas Supernatural, Alyssa Adisi Waya (Running Wolf)
Yesterday at 12:34am ·
TONIGHT! She can try and hide from "The Rev." all she wants BUT, I've found her AND she is on her way to Vegas Supernatural TONIGHT LIVE!! Indigenous Doctoring Practitioner (Medicine Woman), Author AND Extreme Paranormal Experiencer,,, "Alyssa Adisi Waya" with Rev. Shawn Whittington on an All New LIVE Vegas Supernatural!!! WANT TO BE PART OF THE SHOW???,,, at 5 P.M. Pacific/ 8 P.M. Eastern log onto Kcorradio.com. At the website click on LISTEN LIVE and you are good to go. CALL-IN # is 702-425-9230. SKYPE US @ Kcorradio. TWEET US @ #KCOR. Jump into the LIVE Chat Room on the website during the LIVE Broadcast. You can also Listen Live on your MOBILE DEVICE by calling 605-475-1680. The Kcor Digital Radio Network is NOW also on Tunein and iTunes."
Ephesians 5:29
“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”
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Facebook post:
"Shawn Whittington? to Vegas Supernatural, Alyssa Adisi Waya (Running Wolf)
Yesterday at 12:34am ·
TONIGHT! She can try and hide from "The Rev." all she wants BUT, I've found her AND she is on her way to Vegas Supernatural TONIGHT LIVE!! Indigenous Doctoring Practitioner (Medicine Woman), Author AND Extreme Paranormal Experiencer,,, "Alyssa Adisi Waya" with Rev. Shawn Whittington on an All New LIVE Vegas Supernatural!!! WANT TO BE PART OF THE SHOW???,,, at 5 P.M. Pacific/ 8 P.M. Eastern log onto Kcorradio.com. At the website click on LISTEN LIVE and you are good to go. CALL-IN # is 702-425-9230. SKYPE US @ Kcorradio. TWEET US @ #KCOR. Jump into the LIVE Chat Room on the website during the LIVE Broadcast. You can also Listen Live on your MOBILE DEVICE by calling 605-475-1680. The Kcor Digital Radio Network is NOW also on Tunein and iTunes."
Direct links to the quoted post:
https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9/posts/194787244655609
https://www.facebook.com/events/914856095353096/permalink/917320731773299/
See also:
https://www.facebook.com/Ghostbgone.biz/
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1876371205727088&set=p.1876371205727088
All posted by [Reverend] Shawn Whittington: https://www.facebook.com/shawnlvnv
He runs this freak show: http://kcorradio.com/KCOR/index.php
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Shawn Whittington on FB claims "Studied Spiritual Warfare at Agape Christian University/ American Association of Exorcists, Choctaw, Ok".
Here is the American Association of Exorcists: http://aaeok.tripod.com/
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Alyssa Barlow's plans to put out a book apparently continue, she has a book cover chosen according to her web site.
Regarding her use of " spots of the fawn":
She says:
Simply put, there are places on the earth that defy logic; places which unlock the mind and unleash the spirits. They’re known to the Indigenous of North America as Spots of the Fawn; places of immense power.
Spots of the Fawn is a look into Earth’s power spots; the term first coined by The Hopi and known to all indigenous peoples as power places.
This term is used by other New Age writers such as James Swan. Books by James Swan have back cover praise by Lynn Andrews and Michael Harner.
James Swan credits Frank Waters with the phrase and supposed meaning of "spots of the fawn".
That would be The Book of the Hopi by Frank Waters and Oswald White Bear Fredericks.
Waters book mentioned here http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2616.msg22427#msg22427
The primary informant on Hopi beliefs consulted by Frank Waters was Oswald "White Bear" Fredericks. Oswald was married to a white woman, had been converted to Christianity, and was not a fully initiated Hopi Indian. Thus, as one might expect, many of the traditions reported in this book are inaccurate.
See: McLeod, Roxie. Dreams and rumors: a history of "Book of the Hopi". Thesis (M.A.)--Univ. of Colorado, 1994. Pp. 330. MLA. For a more accurate version of Hopi beliefs, try "The Fourth World of the Hopis" by Harold Courlander.
More on Fredericks:
As a child, White Bear was initiated into one of the four societies which all Hopi belonged, however he was never initiated into one of the major four Kiva groups. White Bear attended the Oraibi Day School, was sent to the Phoenix Indian School then on to Haskell Institute in Lawrence, Kansas, and Bacone College in Muskogee, Oklahoma. It was at this latter institution, in 1930, he became a devout Christian.
http://www.azarchivesonline.org/xtf/view?docId=ead/nau/fredericks_white_bear.xml;query=;brand=default
Frank Waters had his own personal agendas. According to Dream Catchers: How Mainstream America Discovered Native Spirituality
By Philip Jenkins - Waters' driving influences were Jung and Gurdjieff.
So, long story short, Barlow is not Hopi. New Age shaman books are nonsense. And Book of Hopi has issues, it is not an authoritative source.
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FWIW: In 1979, I was hired by the Hopi Cultural Center Museum on Second Mesa to be the Director of their Tricentennial project (300th anniversary of the 1680 Pueblo Revolt); why they picked a Bahaana for this, I don’t know. I didn’t apply for it, rather I was recommended by a former boss, who was a friend of Abbot Sekakwaptewa and Fred Kabotie. They called me.
Whatever, how I got to Hopi is beside the point. What happened while I was there is the point. After a brief search, housing was found for me: the House At Pumpkin Seed Point (qv), my landlord: Oswald ‘White Bear’ Fredericks. I lived there for 18 months, during which time I saw WB only rarely. Although he had a house/shop on 264 right outside Kykotsmovi on the way up to the top of Third Mesa, it was closed most of the time; rather, he spent most of his time in Sedona, where I sent rent checks. Indeed, I don’t think I ever saw any of the so-called Traditionalists from Hotevilla during my stay – and as one member of my Board was from Hotevilla, I often visited that village.
I had read _Book of the Hopi_ back in 1963 when it came out, and that colored my initial perspectives on the SW. But when I started taking Anthro courses at UNM in 1967, I quickly disabused myself of its misconceptions. So I knew the back story of both WB and of my house.
I never had the chance to ask WB about those things, but I did ask my Board – composed of adult-initiated men from all three Mesas, some elders, some younger. They were circumspect, essentially saying that they could not tell me what was wrong with the Book, for that would implicitly say what was correct in it. And I did not have the rights to know those things.
When talking about these things, the metaphor I like to use is “freedom of information”, or rather the non-existence thereof. At Hopi, /navoti/ (information, knowledge) is circumscribed by definite boundaries: age, sex/gender, clan, kiva, sodality, village, and Mesa. These boundaries are such that ‘traditionally’, no one could know ‘all’ of Hopi culture, especially those parts which are walled off from others. Thus some things are open: summer Plaza dances, some winter kiva dances; other things are closed.
That is the way things are.
[aside: from the above quote, “one of the major four Kiva groups.” This is somewhat ambiguous. Traditional/non-Xian Hopi men “belong” to a kiva, which is the locus of a variety of activities, katsina dances, etc. In addition, in *some* of the villages, *some* of the kivas are associated with the four major men’s sodalities, usually called “adulthood societies.” I think these are what the “four Kiva groups” refers to. I say *some* because of the structured relationship between some the villages, and because of the unique histories of some of the villages/Mesas. On Second Mesa, it is the kivas at Songopavi that are home to the societies, and men from Mushongnavi and Sipaulovi go there. Up until 1906, Old Oraibi was the only village on Third Mesa. One result of the 1906 split was that the adulthood societies were explicitly abandoned. They never existed in Kykotsmovi or Bacavi, and were only re-constituted in Hotevilla in 1939.
[aside: none of the so-called Traditionalists from Hotevilla were ever initiated into their reconstituted societies.]
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Added this bio of Barlow on IMDB. We'll see if it gets posted.
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Born Alyssa Alexandria Barlow, she shortened it to Alyssa Alexandria as a screenwriter. Barlow was born in Sonoma, California in 1959. Her family were prominent descendants of early white colonists, her grandfather owning and running an apple processing factory. For most of her adult life she lived off her family trust. As a young woman she played polo in Argentina.
In the 2000s, Barlow was trained at ScreenwritingU.com. In 2007 she sold her first screenplay for the horror film House of Dust. Her second film (also horror), Match.dead, was actually made first.
From 2012 to the present, Barlow has variously claimed to be Cherokee, Modoc, or Yurok Indian. She called herself Adisi Waya or Runs With Wolves and began teaching about "power spots," Bigfoot, Atlantis, ancient Egypt, and the Hopi tribe. None of the four tribes are related to each other. There is no evidence of Barlow having Native ancestry. Her teachings are not part of any Native spiritual tradition and are very controversial.
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Well, I guess according to Alyssa, she has a "stalker" that prevents her from releasing her book due to her fear of having anyone be critical of anything she does. This is a posting that she has made in reference to this site:
Alyssa Adisi Waya
13 February ·
Hey Everyone: I am unsure about publishing my book as I am dealing with something very disturbing. I have a stalker who has promised to discredit me, and or, the book; Spots of the Fawn. Already, there are disconcerting posts on a "sort of" native watch tower website about our family genealogy. The site is a bit questionable in itself; they also go after other races. I have yet to reply.
I can say this, they searched the wrong line of our family history and came up with "white." Not that there is anything wrong with "white." I certainly do have white in me. And oddly, they searched our property records and tax records. But, they forgot about our Great Grandmother who is the Cherokee blood; she is why my Father is Cherokee. If she is not, that is a problem that is no longer mine; those people are dead and cannot defend their beliefs. When we did our genealogy, there was no such thing as the internet. But it's irrelevant.
It seems that Alyssa brings up a "seventh grade math level" quite often, not sure what that has to do with her false heritage? Either way, in no way does the truth constitute slander or harassment as it is simply the truth.
As for her other claims of not receiving "gov assistance", I am not sure who cares? As far as I know she has lived off her parents trust her entire life which gives her much freedom and time to do her FB and exploring. Oh to have a life of leisure...
Anyway, still waiting for this book to come out.
I hope that she has at least learned that her comment as follows:
I will not deny that I am proud of my Aryan ancestry; it is an important part of me.
IS OFFENSIVE to everyone and is nothing to be proud of or even refer to.
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I'm about the same age as Alyssa Barlow. Neither of us have any sign of current tribal community or even heritage, both of us have lived in Washington state.
If I claimed:
I carry native ancestry; Cherokee Aniyunwiya.
I practice medicine making, or doctoring, in a traditional way.
.......... of course folks would need to research me. Research and fact checking does not equal stalking.
Looking over public records to figure out a situation is not odd. It may feel odd to a person who is uncomfortable having their claims fact checked.
I really don't understand this part:
But, they forgot about our Great Grandmother who is the Cherokee blood; she is why my Father is Cherokee. If she is not, that is a problem that is no longer mine; and cannot defend their beliefs. When we did our genealogy, there was no such thing as the internet. But it's irrelevant.
If heritage is irrelevant, why claim it?
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But, they forgot about our Great Grandmother who is the Cherokee blood; she is why my Father is Cherokee.
I believe that I can figure out which great grandmother she is talking about here. This woman married in California and is listed white on the marriage certificate. She was born in Illinois. She and parents listed white on census.
I'm not going to even lay out the details because I think Barlow may try to move the goal posts.
Alyssa Barlow, what Cherokee community claims you?
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I've read up more on her various direct ancestors. Her people are consistently referred to as pioneers of Sonoma county. Farmers, canneries, orchards, real estate, business.
I can see them in census, books, obits, historical society collections, and other records. Even society news about bridge clubs.
If Alyssa Barlow was told family stories about supposed Cherokee heritage when she was young, it is now past time for her to let those stories go. She's a grown woman.
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So her heritage claims are through her father, and his father.
Here is a grave memorial for her grandfather, known as Denman Barlow https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/96889187/thomas-denman-barlow . Alyssa refers to him as Grandpa Den.
Denman Barlow was in society news his entire life. Hundreds and hundreds of mentions, some extensive. I skimmed through quite a bit.
He is described as a member of the most prominent families in that region.
He was the president of a Campfire Girls Lodge.
He enjoyed picnicking in redwoods, fishing, sports, duck hunting, dance parties, bridge parties, ranch vacations, Sonoma County Trail Blazers trips by horseback, and he had a regular season box at the Sonoma County Fair. He was accepted at U.C. in 1920 and participated in an annual parade. He was a grammar school board trustee.
He bought orchard land from his mother in 1922. He sold an apple plant in 1946. He and his people were very active in apple agriculture in the area.
I also looked over additional public newspaper articles about Alyssa in past incarnations. The news is all about apples, vineyards, and polo.
We have run into this before here on the forum - white folks who have their own fascinating genealogy, who instead of enjoying their own ancestors: they go pretendian.
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http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3743.msg44735#msg44735
Here's her genealogy records from the first page. It goes back to her ggg grandparents on her father's side. 1830's all white. She is a bald face liar. She has no Indian blood what so ever.
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I believe that when people become this delusional and completely caught up in their lies they start believing that they are true because so many so called “friends” support and enable this fraudulent behavior. I am not a psychologist but I would guess there is a mental illness associated with this kind of story telling and lying. Sadly she is involving her step grand daughter in this delusion and I would hope she is smart enough to ignore Alyssa’s lies. She is obviously not happy with who she really is so she has to make up elaborate stories and then write her fictional book about her pretend heritage. All of these pretentious people need to be called out as Alyssa is not the only one out there!
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Well since I have absolutely nothing to lose no due to Alyssa’s lies and her being a really good manipulator I would really like to clear my name from this site as I haven’t written anything on here before and wasn’t the one who started this. Her son and I are no divorce unlike what her blog says about me. Evidently we got divorced while he was still deployed and I then started trashing his personal property. That’s not how it went at all. I got his trucked fixed before he got back so he’d have a good vehicle to drive, I filed for divorce so I could move outbwfore he got him. Also I never wrote nor did I have anything to do with writing this stuff about her. The original post coincidently matches me but that was started in 2012 before I even started dating her son in 2017.
So now that my name is attached to her poorly written fictional and absolutely insane blog she is caus My personal issues with me and my name and all my aliases including my maiden name. I’m teying to start fresh and rid my life of her crazy antics but it’s hard to do when she won’t stop writing about me and my name comes up in doodle search engines with her crazy words attached. I don’t know what I’m asking but I’d really like this removed so I can have a normal life again and rid her horrible energy and crazy words from my life before I have to resort to legal action. Not legal action against this site but against her for deformation, slander and libel. I’ve done my research and have an attorney willing to take my case against her if inneed to. But I’d rather not go that route. If there is a way of clearing my name that would be amazing.
I’ve attached the link to her bio about me slandering my name. But I’m just done and can’t take this anymore. She is effecting my personal life in more ways then one still.
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Where she slanders me and on Facebook also. Guess you can look that one up yourself. I have her blocked.
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
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Where she slanders me and on Facebook also. Guess you can look that one up yourself. I have her blocked.
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
There have been several comments about that page in this forum, starting here:
She is not happy with us.
THE SLANDERING OF A FAMILY’S HISTORY
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
She seems to assume that everyone researching are actually only one person. She refers to discussion as "public defamation".
Some useful parts: …
In this thread there are also several comments about her "Aryan ancestry", mentioned on that page.
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There have been several comments about that page in this forum, starting here …
Here is another one:
She is talking about us, especially about one poster here, all without giving a link to this site or explicitly saying NAFPS. She refers to us as a "native watch site". https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
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Where she slanders me and on Facebook also. Guess you can look that one up yourself. I have her blocked.
Several previous comments about her Facebook profile, too. Just an example:
She is using her Facebook page to rally misguided supporters https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9
According to her, she is a holy martyr and critics are persecuting her. In comments people claim that critics are psychopaths.
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She seems to neglect the fact that this thread was started in 2012. Since she has an account here I don't know why she's not addressing any issues she has here in the forums unless she is completely aware of her dishonesty and has nothing to say to clarify any of the documentation presented.
Right, this profile's email confirms her identity:
Mother of a Wolf
Posts: 0 (0 per day)
Email: spotsofthefawn@gmail.com
Age:N/A
Date Registered: February 12, 2018, 12:00:32 am
Last Active: February 13, 2018, 11:58:32 am
Spots of the Fawn
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Spots of the Fawn
Photos Courtesy of Alyssa Adisi Waya; The Running Wolf Collection
The Facebook link in there yields this result (to me, at least):
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I don’t think you understand what I mean. She thinks I wrote and started this because she clearly can’t read past a 7th grade level. Even though the date clearly says 2012 this post was started. I had nothing to do with this post starting or continuing but she sure seems to think I do. In met blog that I linked in my second post my name, my maiden name and my moms maiden name are attached to it somehow. So when you google search my name now and click on her blog it slanders my name left and right.
You say she’s mad at you guys but she takes everything out on me in her blog and Facebook posts. I had nothing to do with this to begin with and haven’t written a thing until yesterday. She is effecting my lively hood and me getting a job up here with those lies attached to my name. But I know that’s what she wants. She was jealous of me from the get go. I’m a strong independent woman who doesn’t pretend to be someone I’m not. I take care of myself and kids and am more successful then she will ever be in life because my whole life isn’t based off lies, manipulation and using people for possessions and money.
Just read her blog and google search my name and you’ll see what I’m talking about. But just in case anyone is wondering I was married to her son and we just divorced last month because of her crazy lies and antics. But it’s okay. She saved me from a lifetime of agony and control. So thank you Alyssa but the slander needs to stop now. Before I get really mad and I’m not thinking she willl dig the outcome.
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Where she slanders me […]
https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
I don’t think you understand what I mean. She thinks I wrote and started this because she clearly can’t read past a 7th grade level. Even though the date clearly says 2012 this post was started. I had nothing to do with this post starting or continuing but she sure seems to think I do. In met blog that I linked in my second post my name, my maiden name and my moms maiden name are attached to it somehow. So when you google search my name now and click on her blog it slanders my name left and right.
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Just read her blog and google search my name and you’ll see what I’m talking about. […]
I understand what you mean, and I found your name mentioned a dozen times on the page you linked to. I guess there is little or nothing people in this forum can do about that?
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I guess what I’m asking is for someone to clear my name is all. I am not the person she should be mad at nor did I start this thread about her being a fraud. I mean now I see right through all the stories she was telling me about herself and family and I feel bad for people who feel they need to live a lie and pretend to be someone they clearly aren’t but destroying an innocent persons reputation and slandering them is where I have a problem. She has no facts to back up anything she said about me in her blog. Her son and I never divorced until June 4th, anyone can look that up on anchorage courtview, having an extensive criminal background is also false. I have one thing on my record that was dismissed back in 2004 and besides having a few speeding tickets I haven’t been in any trouble with the law.
So before she goes around trying to point fingers at people saying they are being mean and lying maybe she should show some proof of her accusations since you guys have shown proof of her being a fraud.
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I guess what I’m asking is for someone to clear my name is all. I am not the person she should be mad at nor did I start this thread about her being a fraud. I mean now I see right through all the stories she was telling me about herself and family and I feel bad for people who feel they need to live a lie and pretend to be someone they clearly aren’t but destroying an innocent persons reputation and slandering them is where I have a problem. She has no facts to back up anything she said about me in her blog. Her son and I never divorced until June 4th, anyone can look that up on anchorage courtview, having an extensive criminal background is also false. I have one thing on my record that was dismissed back in 2004 and besides having a few speeding tickets I haven’t been in any trouble with the law.
So before she goes around trying to point fingers at people saying they are being mean and lying maybe she should show some proof of her accusations since you guys have shown proof of her being a fraud.
My suggestion is to work with an attorney if at all possible.
You could ask Ms. Barlow to remove all mention of you. If you try this, write your request knowing that she may easily make it public. She might not answer and she could choose to post even more problematic claims.
Keep copies of everything. Keep any evidence of reputational damage.
You can also work to bury false information by providing positive information. Social media, blogs, a web site - you can generate material that presents you in a good light.
Personally, other than maybe making a formal request to have material removed, I'd probably steer clear of her. Unless I had attorney assistance.
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Sad really that a grown woman cannot see that this thread was started back in 2012 when I assume her son had not married this girl that Alyssa feels threatened by! She has now tried to publicly blackmail this girl because of public information, next thing you know Alyssa will send Google a threatening message as well!
This is her newest addition into her "SPOTS OF THE FAWN BLOG"
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https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/spotsofthefawnblog/2018/2/23/mk91jlnonjmefobgez8yvtlkjg9fag
To date: 7-15-18
Brianna, I would like nothing more than to remove this post. I received your emails and will not respond privately to you. Go back to the Native site and genealogy site and remove your words and that of those you solicited to post on your behalf. Your words and actions, as they stand now, will affect my family for generations to come. It is for that reason alone, this post remains. Your battle was never with me, or my family, it was with my son. I understand this is a difficult truth to face and you have both suffered. This post will no longer serve a purpose when this is accomplished. It will be removed with honesty and integrity, as then, it will be the right thing to do.
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I would like to add that her Facebook fans...all 1800+ are beginning to see the real Alyssa and now she is blocking them because they are beginning to call her out on her fraudulent behavior and passing it onto an innocent child.
Well, Alyssa, this person you are directing your anger towards did not know you in 2012 but then with your shape-shifting and time travel...maybe she did! LOL
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Well, I am happy to say that Alyssa Adisi Waya no longer has a "Spots of the Fawn" website. It has been completely removed, as it should have been a long time ago. As for her other blogs and slander, they have all been removed. Maybe next time she will not be so quick to misjudge people in that nobody likes a fraud.
Thank you to everyone that assisted in finding out the truth and putting it out there for all to read!
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Good to hear the sites are down. This personal page is still up on FB, with the fake Cherokee name and various nuage ramblings: https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.adisiwaya.9
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Currently the spotsofthefawn.com registrar expiration date is 2019-08-05.
Created 2017-08-05
Updated 2018-07-29
The home page of the site can be accessed here https://web.archive.org/web/20170904070301/https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/
but the "about the author" and blog are no longer available.
Her Facebook has either been radically edited or she has changed her privacy settings.
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From https://web.archive.org/web/20170904070301/https://www.spotsofthefawn.com/
A special thanks to those "modern" researchers who have gone before.
Freddy Silva, for his deep understanding of "power places." His book, "The Divine Principle," has been a profound influence on the study of sacred sites. You will hear his voice often woven within my own.
Graham Hancock, for his studies on altered states of consciousness; his book "Supernatural" has become a touchstone.
The late John Burke; for his scientific studies (physics and agricultural sciences) on power places and their influences on crop yields. And to fellow author and researcher Kaj Halberg.
Andrew Collins and Greg Little, respectively, for their studies on North American "Path of Souls" mythology depicted within the book "The Path of Souls." And a heartfelt thanks to Andrew for his book "The Cygnus Mystery."
William F. Romain; for his published studies of anthropology, archaeology, and cognitive and religious aspects of ancient North American peoples.
To Grandpa Den, who imbued me with a love and respect for the land, my own indigenous heritage, and all things spirit.
To Dustin Naef, author of "Mount Shasta's Forgotten History and Legends," for his life long friendship and support.
And to Tim MacSweeney, fellow researcher and friend, who continues to share his findings from the Northeast on the mysterious rock wall networks that span the continent.
And to all the land holders and those minds with a greater understanding than my own, who so generously quickened a spectacular experience I will never forget; my heartfelt thanks. The multiple sites are privately held, therefore can never be shared physically with the general public. It is for this reason my book "Spots of the Fawn" and this website have been created.
Freddy Silva is himself a fraud. One of many examples: he sells "crop circles resonance cards" that he claims can heal cancer and other illnesses. http://www.invisibletemple.com/crop-circles-healing.html
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Well, lookie who’s trying to get her fraudulent blog back up running? I just cannot wait to read it! So exciting!
adisi-waya.squarespace.com
Spotsofthefawn.com
Looking at the view counter many more people have discovered the real Alyssa!
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Well, lookie who’s trying to get her fraudulent blog back up running? I just cannot wait to read it! So exciting!
adisi-waya.squarespace.com
Spotsofthefawn.com
Looking at the view counter many more people have discovered the real Alyssa!
Both sites show only this:
spotsofthefawn.com
We're under construction. Please check back for an update soon.
How or where do you see a view counter?
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How or where do you see a view counter?
Here on the NAFPS forum each subject has its own "Replies/Views" listing. For instance this thread currently has 71 Replies, 10372 Views.
This is a listing of views count, so it qualifies as a view counter. More views = hopefully more awareness of what Alyssa Barlow is doing.
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Chiquitta: Thanks for telling us about this https://adisi-waya.squarespace.com/spotsofthefawnblog/
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Thank you Piff, i know about that. My question was a misunderstanding.
I imagined chicuitta could somehow see how many visitors there were to those new Spots of the Fawn sites.
But of course, chicuitta was referring to the present thread at NAFPS when referring to "the real Alyssa".
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Well, Alyssa is back at it. Coast to Coast radio show has her biography claiming she is First Nations, cherokee, yurok...etc.
she just never learns!