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Title: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: debbieredbear on January 03, 2005, 06:05:02 pm
A "Choctaw Wisdomkeeper"??? Somehow, I have a problem with a Choctaw with a Cherokee name. I see his name associated with some good people and some twinks like Humbug man. Anyone know him?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: JosephSWM on January 03, 2005, 06:16:34 pm
Did a search on his name and came with a few listings. Here are some

http://www.4worlds.org/healingourselves/pressrelease.htm

http://www.zeropoint.ca/heartIV8asequoyah.htm
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on January 03, 2005, 10:04:05 pm
At the sites Joseph gave us I saw what you saw Debbie, obvious phonies like Humbug and Diane Fisher. But William Commanda is pretty respected.

4Worlds.org is mixed bunch itself, seemingly a good goal of changing modern medicine to fit with traditional but selling all kinds of nonsense to twinks.

And listen to "Sequoyah's" story:
Since 1999, Sequoyah has spent periods of time with the aboriginal tribes of northern Columbia...
   Sequoyah explains that..."the mamos  ... are not born of this Earth.  They were transferred here from other Planets to care for the internal engine, the motor that drives the space-ship Earth.???  (1999) Through visions, teachings on the inner planes and direct experience, Sequoyah learned of the para-normal faculties of the Mamos, who are said to work directly within the world of spirit, communicate telepathically, travel out of body and through higher dimensions....The origins of this region are tied further to the dissolution of  Atlantis..."

He seriously expects us to buy that a tribe he refuses to name can teach anyone telepathy and about Atlantis?

It seems the tribe he alleges to have worked with was a hoax dreamed up by a British filmmaker.
http://www.seizethemagic.com/lol/05worldinfo/05kogi.html
"This message "LET'S Help the Kogi" is to share a few details about the Kogi, Sequoyah Trueblood's mission of 1999 and how LETS can become a part of our commitment to help the Kogi.
In 1991 Alan Ereira, an English filmmaker made an 88 minute film on the Kogi - an enigmatic people who live in an inaccessible mountainous area of Colombia. This intriguing film travels deep into the mountain jungles of Columbia to meet the Kogi, the last remnant of a pre-Colombian people...
...the Kogi high priests emerged from centuries of isolation to issue a final warning and permitted Alan Ereira to make this film in 1991. At the end of that film they waved and closed a door and vowed that it would be the last time they would try to communicate with the outside world. The film was shown on BBS in Britian and on PBS in America on some occasions in 1991 but the mainstream media maligned the film and labelled it as a "fake" and "quackery"...
The Kogi communicate telepathically and they started to communicate in this manner with Sequoyah Trueblood...
The Kogi Indians are the descendants of the ancient Tairona civilization of pre-Columbian America that vanished 400 years ago."

(Hoax is probably a bit much. They do exist, but there's all kinds of nonsense said about them by Nuagers. Ereira has made a lot of money claiming he's their "ambassador." Ereira is a leading figure in the Rainbow Tribe in Britain.)

And William Anderson promotes him on wovoca.com
http://wovoca.com/prophecy-kogi-columbia.htm

He was at a "Star Knowledge" conference with Diane Fisher/Dyani Ywahoo.
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/1998/mar/m06-014.shtml

And he sells ceremonies at lots of different twinkie centers.
http://www.rudairiseretreat.com/teachings.htm
http://www.ancientpeacekeepers.com/agenda2004.htm

He does work with a couple youth programs, that could be why respected people like Commanda thought he was OK.
http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/aboutus.asp
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: VHawkins on January 11, 2005, 02:39:50 pm
Why are there so many people claiming to be from Oklahoma but who do not live here, proclaiming their off the wall theologies some where else? I think it's cause if they made these claims here they'd wind up in the "funny farm".

If there ever was a "made up" name, I'd say it's Sequoyah Trueblood.

vance
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: JakeAl on January 12, 2005, 07:28:39 am
All of the outer space stuff is generally claptrap.

Even so, it is not impossible that outer space people are with us earthlings... but it is not probable that they are here with us either.

I'd say a hallucinogenic substance could possibly involved.

I take it all with a grain of salt and marvel at how gullible some people are. It is irratating/annoying to think that there is a contingent of people out there who associate all  natives with these farout tales. It is equally disturbing to think  that some Indians are in the midst of this chicanery ..jus my 2 cents

Jake
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Graham Therens on October 03, 2005, 11:46:49 pm
I have known Sequoyah for about 5 years and I have never met anyone who lives the way he does.  He is a pretty amazing man to spend time with.  check out some of the stuff he is doing.  Try and be apart of it.  This might give you some insight to who he is.  Take care G
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on October 04, 2005, 02:24:16 pm
Graham, are you serious? You really expect us to ignore both the research we've done and the clear evidence ST is an exploiter, just because you say "check him out, I like him"? Are you really this naive?

And as for how ST lives...
http://www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/humanoid1970.shtml
"Location. Norman Oklahoma
Date: July 4 1970
Time: night
Sequoyah Trueblood was sitting by his pool at his townhouse in Laurel Maryland, watching the children swimming and his wife sitting next to him, when without knowing why, he got up went into the house, changed his clothes, packed a small bag, drove to the airport and took a plane to Oklahoma City. A friend then drove him to Norman. He felt a little strange and wanted to lie down. In a bedroom he was lying down relaxing when he saw a kind of vortex of swirling lights "like a rainbow" into which he was sucked. Sequoyah then found himself standing in a beautiful garden surrounded by hedges. He felt wide awake and in front of him he saw a silvery saucer shaped craft and a shimmering small silver looking being standing on steps that were coming down from the bottom of the craft. The being looked grayish and had a large baldhead with large eyes. The witness sensed that the being was "androgynous" neither male nor female. The being communicated telepathically and told the witness that he had been sent to take him because "they" wanted to talk to him. He agreed to go and walked up the steps with the being. Once inside the craft, Sequoyah heard no sound, but through a small window he saw the moon, the sun, and "millions of stars" instantly go by. Soon the craft was hovering over a beautiful white city in what the witness felt was another planet in another realm or universe. In an instant he was down on the ground. The people in the city appeared to be male and female, wore white robes, and were fair skinned, with "hair that was glowing like the color of sunlight." The small being then took the witness down a street lined with beautiful white buildings not more than three stories in height to a clearing in the woods that seemed like a park. There were a number of people there, and a male said to him that if he would "pay attention"; he could see that people there were living in harmony without war or disease. The people also told him that they did not need foot, for the air they breathed was converted into whatever was needed to sustain life. A sort of leader figure told him that he had been brought to this place to show him the potential of the human race. Soon he asked to be returned and was taken into the craft and then through the vortex and found himself back in bed."

In other words, far from being a super spirchul type or elder living among his (alleged) people , he lives a very well off, even cushy, life peddling to the UFO crowd and selling ceremonies. Even his UFO stories are amazingly generic. The only good I see him doing is his volunteer work at youth camps.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Keguseno on March 11, 2006, 08:44:10 am
Hi folks

Interesting site! ? Don't usually post things on forums but here goes. ? I'm not defending Sequoyah (he's perfectly capable of taking care of himself) but maybe can provide a little context. ?
If you want to get some knowledgeable insight on Sequoyah Trueblood (real name - same as his dad's - and by the way Trueblood was not originally a Cherokee name) you might talk to Harry Charger (Minnecojou wiwayan wacipi leader) or Leo Daychief (Kainai - keeper of the Thunderbird Pipe Bundle), Alex Ahenakew (Cree from Starblanket) or perhaps Gkitsatanamoagk (in BurntChurch) who know him well. ? Or maybe ask Dennis Banks about the time the AIM bro’s tested Sequoyah at the sundance. ? Course you'll have to go in person 'cos like most traditional people ?

Does Sequoyah say and do flaky stuff? ? Yup! ? And… The guy works (often for free) in isolated youth camps in Native communities around the continent - he's the one that will head out on the two week canoe trip with the gas sniffers and doesn't ask for a paycheck. ? And then do it again. ? Has consistently (in the 14 yrs I've known him) given away whatever cash he does make back to the People ? - the guy doesn't even have a bank account (really). ? Continues to donate countless hours of his life to working with prisoners in the toughest jails in Quebec. ? He may speak about experiences with beings from other dimensions, but he's also the guy that makes sure the Brotherhoods get access to the Lodge and have some buffalo meat to eat afterwards. ? Does everyone agree with him. ? Nope. ? Does he live according to the teachings (really putting Creator first, really sacrificing your life and energy to the People, really being deeply accountable to the community, really following the instructions of the Grandfathers no matter how hard it is and how much you don't want to do it)? ? I'd have to say more than most. ?  

I don't know about many about the people who find themselves listed in your forum. ? Based on the ones I do know, I'm sure that the truth in many cases is more complex than it appears. ? Take Pablo Russel. ? Is he traditionally trained? ? Yese. ? Do his actions make some people within his community uncomfortable? ? Yes. ? Do the society members let him sit with them in the ceremonies? ? Yes.

You certainly list some of the great wackos and hucksters of our time - no disagreement from me there. ? And the fraudulent or exaggerated claims of many of those wandering through the materialistic, spiritually-hungry and desparately naive ? and disconnected wasteland of the modern world would be laughable if they didn't cause genuine offence and suffering. ? And in our offence and suffering it is a lot easier to get riled up about the Harley Swiftdeers and Lynn Andrews of the world than dealing with the skeletons in our own community closets or doing the hard and often thankless work of serving the people and helping them come back into the circle in a good way and rebuilding the community. ? On the whole, Sequoyah does a lot more than most in terms of alleviating the suffering of the people - especially the most marginalized within the Native community. ? You won't find that stuff written down. but if you are really interested there are "real" old people who can fill you in with the details that Google just won't unearth. ?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on March 11, 2006, 04:09:42 pm
There's such a strong whiff of sanctimony in what you say, not to mention hypocrisy, plus some things that don't add up.

ST does some good with some work some of the time. But that doesn't hide the fact that he lives an EXTREMELY well off cushy lifestyle, a luxury townhouse in one of the cushiest places the the country with a pool bought from selling ceremonies and working with frauds like Boylan and Fisher. Not much sign of accountability, or even spending most of his time in the community. He's pretty busy on the pay to pray and UFO circuits.

I don't see any sign of sacrifice at all or, other than his youth work, any good that he's done. It's pretty obvious he does far more harm than good. If he once was an elder, that's even sadder.

It's extremely telling that all of the names you quote, not a single one was Choctaw, as ST claims to be.  As for Dennis Banks, Banks also has let his name be used by some pretty obvious frauds like "Mary Thunder". Being an AIM member doesn't make you infallible anymore than anyone else.

If your main purpose here is not to defend an exploiter (oh wait, you say it isn't, but then go on to do that for a very long post), then maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourself if that is the best service you can do for your people?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Keguseno on March 11, 2006, 07:29:42 pm
Didn't know the Mohawk reserve of Kahnewake was one of the cushiest places in the country - might come as news to the people there! ? A "well-off" lifestyle in a luxury townhouse ? with a pool paid for by selling ceremonies - what a laugh!

Fraud, exaggeration an misuse of power very often start when people start to step outside the boundaries of traditional community checks and balances (I’m not talking about the folks with zero community connections here – they’re on their own). ? But does an internet site like this replace the traditional system in the new realities of a globalized world ? ? It might if it holds itself to the same standards of truth and justice that are the foundation of the oral tradition. ?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on March 12, 2006, 01:50:09 am
Obviously you'e having some trouble reading what's right in front of you. ST has (or had) a luxury towhhouse in Laurel Maryland. Is that article lying, or is ST lying to you and not letting you know he has it or had it? The source of that article is a psychiatrist, John E Mack, who spoke with ST and got his permission to put it in a UFO book. Info on Mack: http://www.johnemackinstitute.org/center/center_news.asp?id=227

Let me get this straight what you're claiming. You say that ST is:
A Choctaw elder with a Cherokee name...
...who lives on a Mohawk reserve...
...and is a legit Choctaw elder (or is that a Mohawk elder?) because a Lakota elder and an Ojibwe AIM member say he is.

ROFL!

Sorry K, but when you fall for something that outrageous, you risk defending or even becoming the very thing you claim to be against, namely nontraditionalist exploiters with no ties to their community. Which is what ST looks to be.

I suppose you can make such silly claims because your aunts and uncles aren't around. ? As for us, we are here to support the traditionals (and many here ARE traditionals, storytellers and members of reserve govt, for example) and certainly wouldn't try to replace them. We were formed, in fact, in response to the many calls by elders to do everything ethically possible to defend against exploiters.

Read our intro message, Who We Are. We have no power, we make no claim to be perfect, and if we make mistakes we admit them and apologize. So far all you've done is confirm that ST is a pay to pray exploiter. So far I'm not sure of him being an lapsed elder, though he is an elderLY man who has either done an awful lot of wrong things, or at the very least is being badly abused and exploited himself by hucksters like Boylan.

Perhaps instead of the ridiculous accusations designed to protect ST you could instead try to clear this up. Could you ask about ST's luxury home in Maryland, his pay to pray ceremonies, or his UFO buddies? If you know him, ask him about these and his explanation.

If he is himself being exploited, is vulnerable because of being very elderly, and led around by the nose by white exploiters like Boylan, he wouldn't be the first. The late Wallace Black Elk, for one, and possibly Twyla Nitsche as well. ?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Barnaby_McEwan on May 20, 2006, 08:24:20 am
Off topic replies have been moved to [link=http://www.newagefraud.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148113461]This Thread[/link]
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on May 21, 2007, 02:36:33 pm
Sequoya Trueblood selling ceremonies as a part of a wilderness tourism package. Seemingly there's nothing he won't sell. Moved to Frauds.

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/aboutus.asp
"All of our ceremonies are facilitated by our resident elder, Sequoyah Trueblood, of traditional Choctaw/Cherokee descent, and are in keeping with the teachings he was passed from his elders and creator. They are all free of charge for everyone, and are reflected in our prices as a minimum donation only, as they are an original, social tradition that is not a commodity to be sold. When we sit in ceremony with our guests, it is not for entertainment, but for our inner selves and all of creation. It is very often a touching, moving, and healing experience for everyone. We are not trying to turn people into natives,  or judge rights and wrongs, but simply believe all of our hearts are collectively tired of  hate and war, and that ancient perspectives and ways of living could offer many refreshing and enriching insights into our lives for today.
 
Furthermore, many of our activities aim to help create an open and respectful line of communication between the local First Nations tribes and all our guests during their time with us, enabling any differences to become points of learning, and not points of judgement.  We do our work mainly on traditional Ktunaxa (or Kootenay First Nation) land, and honour them with prayers and blessings frequently. We are also now beginning to develop relationships with some Ktunaxa people from their nearby tribal reserve, so non-native and native paths can learn to run more smoothly together."

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/guides.asp
"Sequoyah is one of our inspirational guides who specializes in what he terms journeys in your "spirit canoe." He draws on a life of amazing stories ranging from experiences with residential schools and abuse, to a green beret in the Vietnam War and prison sentences. His recent decades have been devoted to helping people all over the world through his inspirational teachings from his Cherokee and Choctaw ancestry."

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/package.asp?typeID=21
"Activities: Lodge-based nature awareness and native cultural activities with a native elder, all-inclusive: day hike; nature walk; native ceremonies; cultural and wilderness interpretive activities based on native teachings; five-night Breath of Life ceremony, facilitated by a native elder.

Difficulty: Class 1-3 (easy to advanced).

THIS PACKAGE is a truly unique, breathtaking, and beautiful journey devoted to reconnecting and communicating with the rhythms of nature and our own inner landscapes. In many First Nations tribes of North America, the lynx is a powerful animal totem for revelation. Lynx, silently hiding and lurking in the mysterious darkness of the forest, is a knower of secrets and can help those who come in respect with gaining insight into personal fears, self-imposed limitations, and hidden treasures. This week is spent with a native elder exploring and experiencing this relationship in an exhilarating, traditional, native Breath of Life ceremony. It comprises five nights of deep relaxation, drumming, breathing, and listening to your inner self, with our resident native elder as your guide.

Cost: $1,695.00 CAD, per person. Includes taxes, certified guides, permits, meals, activity costs, elder teachings donation,
 cabin accommodation based on double occupancy, and transportation while at CWC. Group and family discounts available.
Cost with tipi accommodation: $1,441.00 CAD p/p."

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/package.asp?typeID=19
"Activities: Lodge-based nature awareness and native cultural activities with a native elder, all-inclusive: day hike; nature walk;
>>>native ceremonies; solo wilderness outing, based on a traditional Vision Quest ceremony, facilitated by a native elder.

Difficulty: Class 1-3 (easy to advanced).

IN MANY indigenous tribes around North America, Hawk is the explorer and messenger of our animal relations. This week-long wilderness experience is a fun and profound introduction to the gifts that Hawk brings ? observance, discovery, responsibility, and awareness ? through traditional indigenous teachings. First, you will have the opportunity to explore your own place here on the earth on a variety of spectacular day hikes. Your experience then continues with a native elder, and other experienced facilitators, who will help prepare and guide you in your own solo wilderness outing, based on a traditional indigenous Vision Quest ceremony. This sacred quest is one of the most respected rites of passage for indigenous peoples in search of answers to questions and challenges in their own lives. In the spirit of Hawk, this quest can help you discover those talents you have, but are not using; those solutions you need, but can?t see in an earthbound rut; or those messages and gifts you could be receiving, but are unaware of. This package can help bridge the gap between who you are and who you think you are, offering a mental clearing to turn your dreams into a reality, while providing many extraordinary laughs, landscapes, and memories.

Cost: $1,675.00 CAD, per person...Group and family discounts available.
Cost with tipi accommodation: $1,424.00 CAD p/p.

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/package.asp?typeID=4
"Day 6-7 (Saturday-Sunday): The rest of the week is an empowering and unique opportunity to be in nature with a native elder. We will participate in various nature walks, nature awareness activities, and
>>>native ceremonies, such as a
>>>traditional purification/healing lodge and various thanksgiving and rising sun ceremonies. All will be an adventure in their own right that can open up our hearts and minds to new perspectives on our own lives...
Cost: $1,995.00 CAD, p/p...Group and family discounts available.
Cost with tipi accommodation: $1,796.00 CAD p/p.

http://www.kootenaywildernesstours.ca/package.asp?typeID=9
"Activities: Lodge-based nature awareness and native cultural activities with a native elder, all-inclusive: wilderness nature walk;
>>>native ceremonies; traditional healing and purification lodge with a native elder.
...The weekend will then continue with the preparation for and participation in a traditional healing and purification lodge with a native elder. This traditional lodge is one of the oldest tools used by natives to reconnect with their place and path in the world. There is much that nature gives us and much we have forgotten about it. This package can reconnect that bond between the earth and the human spirit, instilling you with the renewed endeavor and understanding of Elk.

Day 2 (Saturday): We are busy today with various cultural activities that build on traditions and teachings towards finally
>>>participating in an enlightening purification lodge ceremony on Day 3. Beginning with a thanksgiving ceremony on the morning of Day 2, you will begin to engage with a unique and very old perspective on life and our relationships through the teachings of the First Nations peace pipe, which accompanies all ceremonies. The peace pipe is a sacred reminder of the perfect balance and harmony between the male and female in the universe, as well as a sacred teacher that provides an opportunity to reflect on our own lives and relationships.

Day 3 (Sunday): We begin again with a thanksgiving ceremony, and then spend some time in relaxation and communication with fellow travelers and our resident First Nations elder in preparation for the purification lodge ceremony. >>>The ceremony itself takes up all afternoon, where guests can experience a new-found and rejuvenating sense of self and the world. The lodge is dark, heated by hot rocks, and comprises four rounds: one round for our relationship with creator, one for our relationship with mother earth and female energies, another for our relationship with all of creation and male energies, and the final round for a general thanks for anything we have to be thankful for. There is no secret mystical event that happens in the ceremony, just a powerful opportunity to spend time with our neglected souls through the sharing of teachings with our resident First Nations elder and some traditional music. After the ceremony, we feast and come together again around a final campfire..

Day 4 (Monday): After one final peace pipe ceremony in the morning, and breakfast, we can spend any final time in communication with the native elder...
Cost: $830.00 CAD, per person... Group and family discounts available.
Cost with tipi accommodation: $706.00 CAD p/p."
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Marlon on May 30, 2007, 05:00:21 am

Have you seen this video with Sequoyah Trueblood.

A Convenient Truth

http://www.heyokamagazine.com/HEYOKA.8.MEDICINE.ConveniantTruth.htm   

He has crossed over to the other side by the way in case you dont know.


Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on May 31, 2007, 04:18:32 pm
My computer will not let me see the video. Do you have a transcript?

Also, to everyone here:

In the past NAFPS has generally followed a policy of no longer criticizing exploiters or other dubious types once they've passed on. It serves no purpose, and they are now having to face their creator and answer for what they've done.

The one exception we make is when other exploiters use that exploiter's name to appear legit, as have followers of Castaneda, John Pope, and Robert Franzone.

I'm wondering what we should do with this thread now that ST has passed. Leave it in frauds since he clearly sold ceremonies? Move it to Etc, unless other exploiters use his name? Other ideas?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: debbieredbear on May 31, 2007, 04:43:19 pm
Maybe just put it in archives, Al. If he's gone, there really isa no point discussing him. But just in case someone claims teachings from him, it will be around.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Moma_porcupine on May 31, 2007, 06:01:00 pm
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:slhHc4nY2a0J:www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2006/sep/
m10-001.shtml+Kootenay+wilderness+tours+Sequoyah+trueblood&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:slhHc4nY2a0J:www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2006/sep/
m10-001.shtml+Kootenay+wilderness+tours+Sequoyah+trueblood&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca)

Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:57:54 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood

Quote
According to the Ponca City News, Oklahoma, Sequoyah
>>E. Trueblood died this past week, on Sept. 3.

>>Here is the obit and URL:

>>Sequoyah E. Trueblood, Marland resident, died Sunday, Sept. 3,
>>2006, at the Claremore Veterans Center. He was 83. Arrangements
>>are pending with Trout Funeral Home and Crematory.


>I'll check on this; the middle initial is correct, but Sequoyah
>was born in 1940 according to his military service record, so
>I'll hold out hope that this is another man by that name.

>I'll need to let his literary agent know too... He had an entire
>manuscript done about his life as a half-white, half-Choctaw man
>who turned to his Native American side after Vietnam. It was
>titled The One I Walk Beside.

>This is unpleasantly familiar...

What is unpleasantly familiar?

>I telephoned Robert Patenaude of Kootenay Wilderness Tours, who
>Seqoyah has been working with. Robert says that Sequoyah is
>alive, that he is in frequent communication with him, and he's
>going to talk to him today to be sure.


If he was born in 1940 then he would only be 66, not 83. Maybe
the Sequoyah E. Trueblood who passed on Sept. 3 was his father?
A bit young for a father, but not unheard of. Please let us know
what you find out, okay? Thanks.

But then there is no more said ?

Kootenay Wilderness Tours webpage looks like they are still advertising him as the resident Elder , so if Sequoya Trueblood has passed on , who is it , they are claiming is him ?

And I also just found this , which is dated March 2007 .

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:3XSBmHA-yiwJ:ionsnw.org/communitynews/JamesO%27Dea.htm
+%22Sequoyah+trueblood%22+2007&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=ca (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:3XSBmHA-yiwJ:ionsnw.org/communitynews/JamesO%27Dea.htm
+%22Sequoyah+trueblood%22+2007&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=ca)
March 2007
Quote
James O’Dea, IONS President has just returned from a two week personal trek to Columbia,
South America.  He traveled with longtime friends including, Canadian Shaman, Sequoyah Trueblood

Sounds like whoever passed on , wasn't the same Sequoya Trueblood ? ( Maybe ? )
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: weheli on May 31, 2007, 07:12:31 pm
Found this Obit on Sequoya Trueblood from Ponca City, OK.


Sequoyah Euvaughn Trueblood

 

Sequoyah "John" Euvaughn Trueblood, longtime Ponca City resident, died Sunday, Sept. 3, 2006, at the Claremore Veterans Center. He was 84 years of age.

A graveside service will be held at 10:30 a.m. on Friday, Sept. 8, 2006, at Resthaven Memorial Park with the Rev. Don Stanton, Pastor, Faith Tabernacle officiating. Arrangements are under the direction of Trout Funeral Home.

Sequoyah was born on Nov. 16, 1922, in Choctaw to Roy and Glessie Clifton Trueblood. He received his formal education in Stroud where he enjoyed playing football. He enlisted in the U.S. Army from 1942 to 1945. He was a proud World War II veteran, and a very outspoken veterans advocate. He served as commander of the DAV for five years, chapter 47 in Ponca City. He was also an active member of the Choctaw Tribe.

He was a construction engineer for 45 years and a member and teacher for the Carpenter's Union in Ponca City. He was General Superintendent for Sterns and Rogers and supervised the construction of the Conoco Office Towers as well as for Brown and Root on the construction of the OG&E Power Plant. He also supervised the building of the White Eagle Health Clinic and Cultural Center, Marland Mansion remodel, and several banks, department stores, schools, homes and the Fine Arts Building and Fieldhouse at Ponca City High School.

After retiring from construction, he worked for the Ponca City News for 12 years as a motor route carrier.

He enjoyed fishing, hunting, cooking and working outside.

He is survived by his wife, Lavonda Trueblood of Marland; five sons, S.E. Trueblood of Quebec, Canada, Chris Trueblood of Lone Grove, Okla., Charles Trueblood of Oklahoma City, Tom Trueblood of Kaw City, and A.E. Trueblood of Marland; one sister, Hope Groomer of Oklahoma City; step-children, Deborah Hooper of Ponca City, Ron Poulter of Ponca City, Sharon Lieb of Ponca City and Bobby Poulter of Shidler; 21 grandchildren, 15 great- grandchildren, and several nieces, nephews, and cousins.

He was preceded in death by his parents, one daughter, one step-son, one granddaughter, one grandson, and one sister, Evelyn Rogers.

Memorial contributions may be made to the Claremore Veterans Center, 3001 W. Blue Starr Dr., Claremore, OK 74017

paid obituary



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 Looks like he did have a son in Canada S.E. Trueblood.
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Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on September 19, 2007, 11:45:55 am
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I KNEW SEQYOYAH TRUEBLOOD AND HE WAS NO CHEROKEE MEDICINE MAN

Why are all you white people getting so uptight about an Indian
calling a fraud a fraud?

I wish someone could explain to me the need to believe these frauds
are spiritual elders?

What's the point of analyzing each other and threatening to sue each
other. The frauds always get found out in the end.

Let's take a look in a dictionary, like so many have suggested:

"Fraud is defined to be "an intentional perversion of truth" or
a "false misrepresentation of a matter of fact" which induces another
person to "part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to
surrender a legal right".

Well if you go by this definition, this Trueblood was a super-fraud –
I mean old style, original super fraud!. His ideas are way, way out
there and they have nothing to do with Cherokee spiritual beliefs. I
mean, hell, you've got a good chance of being right if you call any
fool claiming to be Cherokee a fraud. There are over 300 "Lets
Pretend that we are Cherokee" groups, some actually calling
themselves Tribes that we know of and probably twice that many that
we don't know about yet. I knew this guy and I can say he's a fraud
anywhere, anytime and there's not a court in the land that would
convict me. This guy had no sense of decency. He would gladly accept
money for any line of bull he could pull from all the new age books
he read.

All the Cherokees and all the anti-fraud groups have known about this
twinkie for a long time. Back in Oklahoma we used to get people
asking about him all the time. He was a colorful character, I'll give
him that, but he was no medicin man!

Let's see if I can remember all the complaints against him ...

In the late 80s he started off by claiming to be a Cherokee shaman.
Then when the Cherokee got on him for lying, he claimed to be
Cherokee/Chocktaw. In 1999,he was interviewed by Whitley Strieber on
Dreamland and called himself a Native American medicine man. When a
bunch of Cherokee called in to correct him, they weren't allowed to
go on the air. He tried to shut down several websites run by
Cherokees exposing him as a fraud. All the attention on him was bad
for business so he quit calling himself a medicine man. He displayed
all the typical patterns of behavior that frauds display. He ranted
and raved about how negative the Cherokee were and how selfish and
greedy the real spiritual elders were because they didn't want to
share with the whites and how racist that was ….
You know – all the 80s wannabe rhetoric.

In the 90s, the Cherokee didn't want anything to do with him, but
Sequoyah got his hands on something called the Urantia Book. He
concocted some pretty far fetched "teachings" out of his headings and
started teaching shapeshiftnig classes and conducting pipe ceremonies
as an "adopted Lakota." The Lakota got on him for that and you didn't
hear about him for a while. Then he re-emerged with a UFO bent on his
scam.

He was an opportunistic dirty old man too. I remember he used to do
this exercise he called the "circle of remembering" where he'd have
some nubile young white girls do the "Breath of Life".breathing
exercises that turned in to heavy duty make out sessions with him in
what he called the teaching position. They were supposed to take you
on a journey to another dimension. I think it would have been better
to go on a journey to the free clinic after one of his "ceremonies."

But let's not forget, he was a crazy as he was perverted. He was
heavy into the UFOlogy movement. He thought he saw a UFO and it
hypnotized him into taking a trip to another city (that's what he
told his wife anyway). He said the aliens made his physical body
physical body pack a bag and leave home, but it's not important
because we're really all spirit. Old Sequoyah would get a group of
young girls in a circle and he'd tell the most outrageous stories. He
used to brag about his ability to contact ancient ancestral guides
and about how you have to watch out for imposters in the dimensional
planes – there are inter-dimensional spys everywhere. He wasn't
paranoid, the interdimensional spys were really out to get him. He
used to accuse people who criticized him of being an inter-
dimensional spy too. This guy didn't have the first ideas what being
Cherokee was about. Everything he peddled came right out of new age
books. If anyone asked him to prove he was enrolled, he'd change the
subject really fast and start telling stories about how aliens want
us to download our intentions to transform mother earth and clean up
all the pollution and make everyone love each other.

In the late 90s, Sequoyah was going around with Nancy Red Star (an
Art Bell regular) and was making lots of dough at the star people
conventions. He led the opening ceremonies. When he was on the Star
People circuit he was claiming to be a Choctaw medicine man/wisdom
keeper. He went around charging to give these so-called oral
histories that all Indianswere supposed to share combined with his
own own experiences with the "star people" who he called his cosmic
brothers and sisters. He'd conduct pricey workshops with white people
who wanted to believe a real hot shot Indian wanted to put them in a
sacred ceremony where they could chat with these star elders and ask
them to heal the planet. He also claimed they could do racial healing
and help them master psychic abilities.

I thought got teachings that Indianss were "seeded" by extra
terrestrials from the Pleiades was just copying the Martian
Chronicles, but later I learned that the idea that ancient indigenous
people are hybrids with aliens really comes from the Thule and the
Vril societies which were the groups that formed the Nazi Occult!
That old fool could sell ice to an Inuit and he really knew how to
sell to the UFO crowd.He used to go around the Star Widsom
conferences selling these personally blessed eagle feathers (dyed
chicken feathers) for $50.00 and asking young women is they need any
of his "Ecotherapy" -- where he rambled on and on about ecology while
he felt them up. Then he got involved with some really weird people –
the Program for Extraordinary Experience Research (PEER). They liked
him because he used to tell about his abduction experiences and how
native people have always been abducted and experimented on by aliens
and how all natives are really half-alien hybrids. This comes
straight from the Nazi occult, but boy those nuagers sure eat that
stuff up with a spoon!

Some of his followers were so spacey they thought they could
transform the human race with the power of their mind. They were all
into this belief that the human race was about to evolve spiritually
and that they were the chosen few who would be saved by the space
aliens because they were so pure and enlightened. There's really very
little difference between what Sequoyah was selling and what the
Nazis believed. He knew white people wanted to believe that they were
destined to be some cosmic enlightened master race and they would pay
top dollar to have him play shaman and tell them the space aliens
would really like them best out of all the other races. He used to
tell white people that they were more spiritual than real NDNs and
that when the great environmental armagedon came, they would be saved
by E.T. because he had passed onto them all this sacred knowledge. If
you do a little research you can see where he got this cock and bull
story, the Nazis believed the Aryan race was part space alien too and
destined to evolve and carry on as the rightful inheritors of the
earth. Sequoya described these cosmic brothers and sisters as being
tall and having pale, pale skin. Sounds a lot like a description of
the Aryan race to me.

The other thing that really ticked off the Cherokees is that Sequoya
used to tell his white followers that they didn't need to actually
work for any kind of social change, they could just use the power of
their mind to download their "intentions" into the space alien's
minds and they would get rid of all the earth's problems. Old
Sequoyah used to say he was sharing the instructions the star people
were channeling to him that would restore the balance of nature and
help white folks take their our rightful place among the peoples of
the universe when the earth changes came. People would pay $600 to
$800 dollars each to go to his ceremonies so they'd be saved from the
coming environmental disasters. He used to scare the shit out of some
of them.

While he was rakin in the dough with this scam, he was also working
with James O'dea and the IONS institute (That's really the Institute
of Noetic Sciences that even debunked on Native America Calling by
Russell Means)
Russell Means got really mad at him for the space alien stuff. It
used to be on the web but its prolly gone now.

He got himself in a whole lot of environmentalist books representing
the Native American perspective on ecology and he was even asked to
meet with people in the White House. When he was interviewed in 2005
in that video, he came off too crazy and most of his statements got
edited out. LeKay put his video on the Heyoka site. In the middle of
the interview, Sequoyah goes into his mystical act and he
says, "Thunderbird, that's why I had to just stop and be with for a
minute here" Like Red Elk, he got onto some nuage belief about
invisible giant Thunder Beings that visit you in a dream and make you
a heyoka/contraya. Maybe that's why he's included in the magazine. So
he's supposed to be a Choctaw or a Cherokee but he's talking about
being made some kind of Lakota spiritual expert now?. It was clearly
just a plane passing overhead but this old faker liked to hang out
with new age hippies that wanted to believe any piece of crap he
pulled out of his butt. Later on, he's talking White Buffalo Calf
Pipe Woman and he's supposed to be Choctaw or Cherokee. I don't think
the nuagers ever catch all these contradictions. They just swallow
whatever's shoveled into their empty skulls.

Recently, I heard he was calling himself the "Resident elder" at the
Kootenay
Wilderness Tours in Calgary Canada.
He kinda got around selling ceremonies by calling them "Wilderness
tours"
His ceremonies were just silly and ridiculous. He used to charge a
couple thousand dollars for sweat lodges and other ceremonies he made
up and he'd claim that his sweat lodge ceremonies will help you make
contact with beings from other realms.
He ran what he called "traditional purification/healing lodge" and
presided over "thanksgiving and rising sun ceremonies" and a "peace
pipe ceremony". He was an adopted Lakota and a pipe carrier for a
while. (Aren't they all?) He loved to get young girls in his sweat
lodges half dressed and really work on them. He had a charismatic
personality and he used it to try to control anybody without a strong
mind.

Now, I know that when you first look at his teachings you might think
he's just a harmless crackpot, but you shoudn't be foolish enough to
dismiss Seqyoyah's teachings as the mindless rantings of a harmless
kook. The catcaclysmic teachings are rooted in some very ugly
ideology.

Rick Ross has dozens of pages on the web that explain the nuage
tendency to embrace the Armageddon Paradigm.

THE PROPHETS OF APOCOLYPSE – White Supremacists and the Theology of
Christian Identity by Dennis Tourish and Tim Wohlforth
http://www.rickross.com/reference/christian_identity/christianidentity
19.html

A lot of you white folks acting crazy on this message board should
read about how cults work because the way you defend these frauds, it
looks to me like you're all in a cult.
I've never seen people act like this LeKay bunch before that weren't
in a cult.

"The Armageddon Paradigm
"We pay particular attention in this study to what we call "The
Armageddon Paradigm." Originating in the Judeo-Christian tradition,
this view has spawned religious cults like the People's Temple
(Layton, 1998) the Branch Davidians (Breault and King, 1993), and,
most recently, Aum Shinrikyo (Lifton, 1999). Scores of groups have
been identified, who adopt what can be defined as a millennial
perspective of imminent doom (see Landes, 2000). All of them proclaim
that The End Time is upon us. This means that most of the world's
population will be annihilated, with the exception of the chosen few.
On the far left, also, capitalism is claimed to be in crisis,
revolution is imminent, and the elite presently organized into a
vanguard party will soon triumph (see Lalich, 1992; Wohlforth, 1994;
and Tourish, 1998, for fuller accounts of this approach). The far
right has now adopted its own version of the Armageddon Paradigm. As
Cox (1998) has noted, its cataclysmic reading of the problems thrown
up by modern capitalism can be read as almost Marxist like in their
implications. However, whereas leftists anticipate Armageddon in
terms of class insurrection and warfare, rightists see the End Time
in terms of race war, and depict whites (or Aryans) as the chosen
survivors of a racial conflagration."
This is exactly what the crystal skull fanatics, the Pleidian star
people cult and other neopagan groups who become obsessed with the
Armageddon Paradigm are really saying. They know that their ideology
wouldn't be accepted in its naked form, so they need to dress it up
in pseudo-respect for native people, especially those long dead, and
pretty ideas about global harmony."
These people aren't harmless. They are trying to erase true
indigenous belief systems and replace them with a new ideology that
is as oppressive as Christian capitalism and that is based in ideas
of white superiority.
So if you connect the dots, there's a very good reason why Martin and
Yeagly and other white supremacists held such a place of honor in
Heyoka magazine. The other thing I've noticed is that all the frauds
LeKay's upset about NAFPS outing have ties back to Ol Grampa Wallace
Black Elk. He started all this space alien nonsense back in
Washington state in the 1980s. Now he's got more followers than you
can count and white people only want to believe his lies. LeKay knew
exactly what he was doing when he included all those Wally Black Elk
clones in little jihad against common sense It reveals a deep white
supremacist tendency in gullible white folks like LeKay that needs
really needs to be exposed.
It's just like the white people to go out and search for a crackpot
like this to represent all of us and not contact NDNs who are doing
real work to save the environment.

This guy Trueblood really knew how to sell a new age yarn. He used to
study what fads were possible and make up stuff he knew whites wanted
to hear.

I don't know why all these supposedly educated people can't see how
stupid and racist it is to believe that American Indian people are
descended from space men and have magical powers and exist to SERVE
as spiritual guides for whites. This garbage has go to go!

This man Truebood was not an Indian at all. He's not enrolled with
the Cherokee, the Choctaw, the Chickasaw or the Lakota. He is a fraud
and anyone who can't see that is as crazy as he was. He sold new age
bunk andUFO fantasies to gullible white people with more money than
sense. He did more to erase real Cherokee spirituality and replace it
with nazi garbage than most do and he made a lot of money doing it.
You get a bunch of white folks together every weekend with each one
of them paying two grand for a sweat lodge … Well, you do the math.

It says that "Heyoka says "Sequoyah Trueblood was an internationally
respected Cherokee/Choctaw Elder, healer, ceremonialist and teacher."

That's a load of crap. Like they say on the Gieko commercials - Do a
little research! the Cherokee don't want to be associated with this
nut!

I know we never got a call from LeKay trying to check this fool out!

Any person in their right mind should be able to see that these Wally
Black Elk clomes that LeKay thinks are "respected elders" are Frauds.
Respected by who? Certainly not the Cherokee, I can tell you that for
sure.
I never could understand all this fanatical devotion to Wally Black
Elks disciples. If I live to be 100 I'll never understand it.

Now I don't care how naïve or uninformed you are, common sense should
tell you that all the space alien nazi crap has nothing to do with
the Indianpeople. Has everyone lost their minds? If you want to
believe in space aliens and act like a crazy fool, I say fine - knock
yourself out. I don't even mind if the UFO nuts get rich off their
little green men fantasies, but when you start calling yourself a
medicine man and start saying that Indians believe this nazi crap,
well then you've got a fight on your hands.
Eveybody has the right to believe any weird-ass thing he want, but he
doesn't have the right to say that I BELIEVE IT or go around saying
the this Nazi stuff really came from the Indians.
We're not extint. Some of us are still around to complain.
DO A LITTLE RESEARCH!

It's so easy, even a white man could understand it ay?

If you don't believe me,
Call the Cherokee and call the Choctaw

You'dd see they don't claim him

Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma
16th & Locust
P.O. Drawer 1210
Durant, Oklahoma 74702-1210
(580) 924-8280
(800)522-6170

Cherokee Nation
Attn: enrollment
P. O. Box 948
Tahlequah, OK 74465
918-453-5000

Jerry
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: kokumlee on March 26, 2010, 12:37:06 am
Thanks Jerry, for the info in the previous post. He's not dead, and this link is only 10 (!) days old: http://merliannews.com/People_36/Sequoyah_Trueblood_Teacher_of_Global_Unity_and_Compassion_printer.shtml
     My husband & I have met this idiot on several occasions. We have had people in the (native) community here in Alberta approach us privately, to voice concerns they have had about possible sexual improprieties with young women. He had at one time made some effort to become involved with a youth program here, but that (thankfully) did not come to pass.
     A white lady we knew spoke quite highly of him & we were not expecting to dislike him. When she introduced us to him, we became concerned for her spiritual welfare. Then people started coming to us to speak of their concerns. After a couple of years, we decided to approach her & warn her in a respectful manner to exercise caution in her dealings with him. She shared with us that he had left an eagle wing fan (she showed it to us) IN HER BEDROOM. She claimed that there was nothing sexual going on, but conceded that it was, perhaps, at least a tiny bit "inappropriate" for him to have left this above her bed!
     She then went to him & told him everything we had discussed with her!
     When she broached the subject of sexual  improprieties with young girls, his response to her was that he didn't deny it, he appears to have been defending it! (I say "appears", as I didn't hear him say this, merely listened to what she was saying in his defense over a period of several months in which I asked her questions about what he was telling her.)
 
He started to refer to it (his impropriety) by giving it a label which I find alarming. He appears to have tried to give it a veneer of something "traditional"  by calling it "Crazy Horse Medicine"..... many times over those months she told me stuff he was saying, using that terminology. It is sickening to me that he would use that term in ANY context, much less this one. I no longer have any contact with her.
     It makes me want to puke.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Gitz on May 06, 2010, 10:25:20 pm

I am a 26 year old Piikuni (blackfoot) and dene. I am not a medicine man or a shaman, just a man finding his way.

[Long, dull predictable, and ignorant personal attacks and attacks upon all Natives deleted.]

Sequoyah is respected in a neighbouring blackfoot community, I have been to a sundance in southern ab with him and was overwhelmed with the positive response he recieved and was amazed at how many people knew him.
I have traveled around with him, sat in ceremony and he never once charged me a dime for anything.
but he gets flown out to different area around turtle island to help out with things.
He doesn't and has never asked for money.
The money he recieves he passes on to others just as quickly.
We have talked about the kootney wilderness area and he has problems with the posting info about him "wisdom keeper". He laughed and said what is that
he doesn't agree with it, but he's not the moderator for the website.
I have known Sequoyah for a little over 6 years.
He has an amazing sense of awareness but is very much a man.
I think the sweat lodge controvesry is interestng and can see how stories grow out of nothing.
If you know our country and our people, you know about gossip and ho it spreads.
He doesn't dictate what a woman should and shouldn't wear around a lodge.
others would say women has to drive likcompletely covered up, and some places and people wouldn't let women into lodges.
I think all this crazy talk about women and breathing energy ceremonies stems from this.

He probably wouldn't want me  to defend him he would just say thank you.

p.s. even though i am blackfoot, i can talk a little bit about the white buffalo calf woman as well as the pipe.
I can also talk a bit about mohawk ceremonies and lakota/dakota ceremonies.
Because i can, doesn't mean I'm full of shit.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Gitz on May 06, 2010, 10:29:21 pm
He's also not dead, certainly not since you guys stated.
if he dead when you all stated that would be kinda cool.
Cause he'd be a spector I and a other people would have been talking to for a few years.
Which would probably add more street cred.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on May 07, 2010, 12:42:39 am

I am a 26 year old Piikuni (blackfoot) and dene. I am not a medicine man or a shaman, just a man finding his way.

[Long, dull predictable, and ignorant personal attacks and attacks upon all Natives deleted.]

1. Sequoyah is respected in a neighbouring blackfoot community, I have been to a sundance in southern ab with him and was overwhelmed with the positive response he recieved and was amazed at how many people knew him.

2. I have traveled around with him, sat in ceremony and he never once charged me a dime for anything.
but he gets flown out to different area around turtle island to help out with things.
3. He doesn't and has never asked for money.
The money he recieves he passes on to others just as quickly.
4. We have talked about the kootney wilderness area and he has problems with the posting info about him "wisdom keeper". He laughed and said what is that
he doesn't agree with it, but he's not the moderator for the website....

5. p.s. even though i am blackfoot, i can talk a little bit about the white buffalo calf woman as well as the pipe.
I can also talk a bit about mohawk ceremonies and lakota/dakota ceremonies.
Because i can, doesn't mean I'm full of shit.

Hello Gitz Crazyboy.
http://www.facebook.com/gitz.crazyboy
First, you really need to knock off the childish insults and personal attacks. They're an unwelcome distraction. They were deleted and so will any others you try.
I put numbers to make it clearer what I'm answering.

1. Doesn't mean much, since he's claiming to be Cherokee and Choctaw, and they don't care for him.
2. Doesn't mean much, since he does charge all the time elsewhere.
3. Yes he does. You even admit he does because you talk about his pay to pray ceremonies for the wildnerness group.
4. How hard is it for him to ask the website to quit lying about him? How hard would it be "Don't say that, or I won't work with you anymore." The fact that he laughs about is appalling. An actual elder would not act this way.
5. No, it just means that you think those things have something to do with Cherokee and Choctaw ways. And they don't.

If you'd bother to read, we pointed out repeatedly that the man is a mixed picture. Sometimes he does some good, at other times he's a pay to pray exploiter. Perhaps he thinks it's OK to charge for ceremony if he gives some or even most of it to good causes. But in the eyes of most NDNs, that still makes him an exploiter. My guess is that if that Blackfoot community knew the money came from UFO conference loony lies and selling ceremonies to naive whites at the wilderness group, they might not want anything to do with money made from using people by selling them bastardized ceremony.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Gitz on May 07, 2010, 01:32:03 am
There wasn't anything stated as a personal attack, just an educated response to something that perpetuates a colonized self imposed stereo type.
one can make the argument that
"Why are all you 'white' people getting so uptight about an Indian calling a fraud a fraud?" - Is an unfair generalisation against all white people.
[Further personal attack deleted.]

1. I have a female friend who's a beautiful dark skinned Dene woman. However, because her mom is dene and her dad was non-native she lost her status as a Dene. She's a 'white' Just because someone isn't a registered band member, when I know the person sometimes i could care less.  Band membership makes a great debate.
2. Everywhere I have traveled with him he hasn't asked for anything.
3. He doesn't ask for money in those supposed pay to pray ceremonies, sometimes it's offered sometimes it's not.
4. He has asked them about them about it.
5. When he talks about other ceremonies or relics from other nations. He proudly states the nation and where it comes from.

Do you really want to debate UFO's or alien ancestors. Because we can, how many different creation stories are there? we don't all come out of ceremonies with the exact same feelings nor do we all have the same visions. The same can be said about the star brothers.

I was at one time a troubled teen, I went into ceremony with Sequoyah. And came out a much different person, what it cost me? nothing. Just and open mind and time spent on that beautiful day.

I know Sequoyah [Two more personal attacks deleted. This is your last warning to stay on topic.]
in a world where everyone is at fault and flawed and many things are created into murky vision of reality
I will say this, He is just a man.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: E.P. Grondine on May 07, 2010, 03:17:26 am
Hi Jerry -

This guy has Richard Kieninger beat.

His life will make a fantastic comedy, if the writer can jut get over the pain he causes his victims.

I'll bet that he gets his new nonsense to sell by reading World Explorer, NEXUS, Atlantis Rising, Ancient American, etc.

Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on May 07, 2010, 12:20:37 pm
There wasn't anything stated as a personal attack, just an educated response to something that perpetuates a colonized self imposed stereo type.
one can make the argument that
"Why are all you 'white' people getting so uptight about an Indian calling a fraud a fraud?" - Is an unfair generalisation against all white people.

[Further personal attack deleted.]

1. I have a female friend who's a beautiful dark skinned Dene woman. However, because her mom is dene and her dad was non-native she lost her status as a Dene. She's a 'white' Just because someone isn't a registered band member, when I know the person sometimes i could care less.  Band membership makes a great debate.
2. Everywhere I have traveled with him he hasn't asked for anything.
3. He doesn't ask for money in those supposed pay to pray ceremonies, sometimes it's offered sometimes it's not.
4. He has asked them about them about it.
5. When he talks about other ceremonies or relics from other nations. He proudly states the nation and where it comes from.

6. Do you really want to debate UFO's or alien ancestors. Because we can, how many different creation stories are there? we don't all come out of ceremonies with the exact same feelings nor do we all have the same visions. The same can be said about the star brothers.

I was at one time a troubled teen, I went into ceremony with Sequoyah. And came out a much different person, what it cost me? nothing. Just and open mind and time spent on that beautiful day.

I know Sequoyah [Two more personal attacks deleted. This is your last warning to stay on topic.]
in a world where everyone is at fault and flawed and many things are created into murky vision of reality
I will say this, He is just a man.

It's really bizarre you claiming that if you call yourself "Indian" it's a stereotype and a sign of a colonized mind. It must be wonderful to feel oh-so-superior to the great majority of NDNs worldwide, the US, Latin America, and even in Canada where you are.
And among those NDNs are your own friends in that comedy troup.

And again, try to read first. The comments you claim are mine...they aren't. They were my reposting what's at the link.

1. No one said a thing about band membership.
Again, if you'd bothered to read you'd see we have plenty of unenrolled in here, including me.
2. Then you haven't traveled to any of his pay to pray ceremonies which are advertised online.
3. Bull. That's an outright lie. It's right there in black and white that you must pay for ceremony.
If you want to tell a weasely lie, then tenchnically he gets others to demand pay to pray for him.
4. Apparently he hasn't said to stop it forcefully enough.
5. You miss the point. He is claiming to do ceremony from other nations he has no right to do, esp not as pay to pray since they find it offensive.

I agree with you that's he's a man, but that's no excuse for him doing wrong, esp since he kn ws he's doing wrong. And you know the same about him. Because he helped you doesn't excuse the wrong he's done to others.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Gitz on May 12, 2010, 02:52:57 am
it's not a feeling of superiority or being superior.
had you not deleted my post it explains.
A simple geography lesson stats... India is not our country. we do not come from india, therefore we are not Indians, NDNs, etc;
that's a term colonizers used.
it cuts you off from your roots
You shouldn't think indian, you should think Apache.
would you call yourself african? Chinese? Navi? you could claim any of these if you wanted to.
Empowerment comes from reclaiming your nation...
myself, Dene and Piikuni. not "indian" never was and never will be. not to take anything away from their great, amazing and beautiful nation. I'm just an indian.
Calling yourself an educated indian is an oxymoron at best.
When you're educated, you understand what has been taken from you, what has been implated in you, truth and all the hurt that comes with it.
That you are lost.

As for saying sequoyah isn't a cherokee because he's not enrolled into a band and you yourself claim Apache heritage without being enrolled into a band...
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http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/pot-calling-the-kettle-black-734818.jpg
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on May 12, 2010, 01:36:02 pm
it's not a feeling of superiority or being superior.
had you not deleted my post it explains.
1. A simple geography lesson stats... India is not our country. we do not come from india, therefore we are not Indians, NDNs, etc;
that's a term colonizers used.
it cuts you off from your roots
2. You shouldn't think indian, you should think Apache.
would you call yourself african? Chinese? Navi? you could claim any of these if you wanted to.
Empowerment comes from reclaiming your nation...
myself, Dene and Piikuni. not "indian" never was and never will be. not to take anything away from their great, amazing and beautiful nation. I'm just an indian.
3. Calling yourself an educated indian is an oxymoron at best.
When you're educated, you understand what has been taken from you, what has been implated in you, truth and all the hurt that comes with it.
That you are lost.

4. As for saying sequoyah isn't a cherokee because he's not enrolled into a band [Yet another personal attack and falsehood deleted.]

1. You can keep arguing this side issue if you want to. This is the last post I'll waste time on this. Obviously you can't even convince the self described Indians you work with in your comedy group.
2. You can do both, and almost all NDNs do.
3. For a comedian, you sure seem clueless about the name being a joke, one done at the expense of non-NDNs who think of all NDNs as ignorant.
4. Never said that. I said the Cherokee communities don't care for him.

None of these continued sidetracks of yours change the facts: He's doing pay to pray ceremonies of traditions he has no right to teach anyway since the ceremonies he claims to do aren't Cherokee or Choctaw.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: nemesis on June 07, 2010, 07:17:25 am
Just a quick note about the Kogi tribe.

I saw the programme, it was broadcast on the BBC a long time ago to great acclaim.  I cannot remember any critics claiming that the documentary was fake or quackery, although that may be a failing of my memory.

Just for the record the Kogi tribe would appear to exist in reality as they are mentioned in this link to the website the charity Survival International. 
http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/arhuaco

Just found the entire documentary in 8 parts on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/user/TGautier421#g/c/0C4E9D212ED19CB4

I wonder how they would feel about Trueblood's claims to be in telepathic communication with them? 
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Superdog on June 08, 2010, 04:57:31 pm
As far as what's appropriate for Lakota ways...you'd have to ask a Lakota.  I can't answer for them.  If he's not charging then that would indicate that they were taught right and if they teach where these ways come from and don't "initiate" others or teaching seminars etc. to do the same then I personally would not have a problem with it.  It's a way of life and if you live that way, then all the better for you...if you're just learning to impress someone or achieve some sort of "degree" status for the sole purpose of opening up a business in any form and use these ways to market yourself...then I would have a problem.  But that's only one opinion.  It seems like you're searching for someone speak for everyone here and I'm not that person and if you're specifically talking about Lakota people and Mohegan people then I suggest you talk to individuals in their communities and let them tell you what's appropriate or not.

The third question is answered on the first two pages of the thread with accounts from people who have come across Trueblood as well as advertisements for seminars with his name on them and videos from youtube, but since you haven't cleared that up for yourself yet, it's clear from posts here that vision quests and pipe ceremonies are not Cherokee/Choctaw ways and the interpretations of aliens and the "spirit canoe" are not from any tribes traditions, yet he says they are.

Superdog
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Defend the Sacred on June 08, 2010, 07:51:46 pm
Note - some content that may be relevant to this thread is in among the tangents here: Re: Who Can Do Ceremony (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2722.0)
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: lerner on June 08, 2010, 10:26:42 pm
educatedindian wote:
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How hard is it for him to ask the website to quit lying about him?

I checked the links posted earlier in the thread, and I also did a google search of the site, and as far as I can tell they've removed all the offending material.

Lerner
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: lerner on June 08, 2010, 10:57:36 pm
nemesis wrote about the Kogi:
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I wonder how they would feel about Trueblood's claims to be in telepathic communication with them?
 
Well, the Arhuaco are the closely related neighbors of the Kogi, and from what I gather, Sequoyah visited both communities. Here is a relevant quotation from an Arhuaco elder, translated literally from the Spanish:
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We can communicate "telephonically" with, say, Spain, by means of the resulting Ayu's ether.
("Ayu" is coca.)

The full interview can be read here:

http://www.festivaldepoesiademedellin.org/pub.php/en/Corporacion/Universo_Arhuaco/karmeneng.html

So, from the looks of it, I would say that Sequoyah's claim may not be considered preposterous in the local context.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: nemesis on June 08, 2010, 11:36:25 pm
nemesis wrote about the Kogi:
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I wonder how they would feel about Trueblood's claims to be in telepathic communication with them?
 
Well, the Arhuaco are the closely related neighbors of the Kogi, and from what I gather, Sequoyah visited both communities.

So you think Truebloood might have visited the kogi?

Is there any evidence that he did?

Even if there is that does not mean that they have some special telepathic bond with him does it?


Here is a relevant quotation from an Arhuaco elder, translated literally from the Spanish:
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We can communicate "telephonically" with, say, Spain, by means of the resulting Ayu's ether.
("Ayu" is coca.)

The full interview can be read here:

http://www.festivaldepoesiademedellin.org/pub.php/en/Corporacion/Universo_Arhuaco/karmeneng.html

So, from the looks of it, I would say that Sequoyah's claim would probably not be considered preposterous in the local context.

Well, you asked...  ;)

Oh come on!

It's a huge leap to extrapolate that because Trueblood might have possibly visited the Kogi that they decided to choose him as the uniquely spechul and spirchul person who they are going to communicate with via telepathy.

You don't imagine that the subtext of such a tale is a just a little bit clichéd?

The interview doesn't even mention Trublood does it?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: lerner on June 09, 2010, 12:09:34 am
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So you think Truebloood might have visited the kogi?

Is there any evidence that he did?
I'm reasonably sure that he did. As far as photographic evidence, you can look at the second picture from the left along the top of the page here:
https://www.createspace.com/234536

Also, for what it's worth (I can't provide evidence), I spoke with a Colombian woman who doesn't know Sequoyah personally but who was visiting the Kogi at the time he was there, and she confirmed that he was there and had been welcomed, from what she had heard, by some Arhuaco families in particular.

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Even if there is that does not mean that they have some special telepathic bond with him does it?
In and of itself, no, of course not.

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It's a huge leap to extrapolate that because Trueblood might have possibly visited the Kogi that they decided to choose him as the uniquely spechul and spirchul person who they are going to communicate with via telepathy.
I'm certainly not making that claim. He did visit the Kogi, and even more so the Arhuaco, but I do not know exactly what unfolded between them. I was just pointing out that something along the lines of "telepathy" (even with people in foreign countries) does seem to be a part of some Kogi/Arhuaco teachings.

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The interview doesn't even mention Trublood does it?
No. (Actually I believe the interview was conducted years before Sequoyah visited.)

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You don't imagine that the subtext of such a tale is a just a little bit clichéd?
Sure, and I agree that this is a good reason for healthy skepticism. In this case, Sequoyah did visit the community in question. As for whether he's in telepathic communication with them, that's a bit hard to assess.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: nemesis on June 09, 2010, 07:32:02 am
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So you think Truebloood might have visited the kogi?

Is there any evidence that he did?
I'm reasonably sure that he did. As far as photographic evidence, you can look at the second picture from the left along the top of the page here:
https://www.createspace.com/234536


That photo doesn't prove anything though does it?

All it proves is  that trueblood had his photo taken with some brown skinned people who may be Kogi, they may be actors or some other people.

Even if they are Kogi all it proves is that 2 of them posed for a photo with him.

This may be news to you but it is a common feature of frauds that they pose for photos with people whose reputation they want to exploit.

It doesn't just happen with indigenous people it happens with martial artists too. The head of the lineage of the martial art I train in will happily pose for photos with people who attend his workshops, but is often surprised when those same photos turn up on people's websites to indicate that the person who attended a 2 week workshop is now some kind of badass grand master.

In fact using / abusing photos in this way, in terms of martial arts frauds and new age frauds, is so common that no discerning person actually places any credence on photos such as the one you linked to and many native people refuse to pose for photos for exactly this reason.

Also, for what it's worth (I can't provide evidence), I spoke with a Colombian woman who doesn't know Sequoyah personally but who was visiting the Kogi at the time he was there, and she confirmed that he was there and had been welcomed, from what she had heard, by some Arhuaco families in particular.

I'm afraid that you're going to have to do much better than that.  Second hand anecdotal reports from posters with a dubious history will not count for much here or anywhere else.


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Even if there is that does not mean that they have some special telepathic bond with him does it?

In and of itself, no, of course not.

Thank you for at least acknowledging that.

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It's a huge leap to extrapolate that because Trueblood might have possibly visited the Kogi that they decided to choose him as the uniquely spechul and spirchul person who they are going to communicate with via telepathy.

I'm certainly not making that claim. He did visit the Kogi, and even more so the Arhuaco, but I do not know exactly what unfolded between them. I was just pointing out that something along the lines of "telepathy" (even with people in foreign countries) does seem to be a part of some Kogi/Arhuaco teachings.

I'm pleased to hear  that you are not making that claim because from where I'm standing there is no evidence to prove any kind of bond, telepathic or otherwise, between Trueblood and the Kogi.


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You don't imagine that the subtext of such a tale is a just a little bit clichéd?

Sure, and I agree that this is a good reason for healthy skepticism. In this case, Sequoyah did visit the community in question. As for whether he's in telepathic communication with them, that's a bit hard to assess.

How can you advocate healthy skepticism while at the same time claiming that he did visit the Kogi (so far a completely unproven claim) and also say that it is "hard to assess" whether the Kogi are in telepathic communication when there is no evidence whatsoever to validate such a claim?

I think your definition of "healthy skepticism" is somewhat different to otehr people's.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: lerner on June 09, 2010, 12:17:46 pm
Hi nemesis,

You wrote:
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I'm afraid that you're going to have to do much better than that.
Why? I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm trying to "prove" that Sequoyah visited the Kogi and the Arhuaco, but I'm not. I initially responded to your comment about Kogi telepathy by providing additional information on that subject. You than asked me specifically if I had any "evidence" that Sequoyah visited the Kogi. In response, I provided a link to that photo and mentioned one of my other sources. Did you think I thought that tiny photo constituted incontrovertible proof? No, of course not. I linked to it simply to respond to your request for evidence.

As for why I am confident that Sequoyah did visit the Kogi and Arhuaco, well, I have had independent, extensive conversations with at least five different people who were there while Sequoyah was there. Some of these people didn't even know Sequoyah but encountered him at large meetings and independently confirmed various details about his trip. I've also seen dozens of photographs of his trip. But to reiterate, I'm certainly not asking you to consider what I'm saying here as proof. I encourage you to do your own investigation.

You wrote:
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How can you advocate healthy skepticism [...] and also say that it is "hard to assess" whether the Kogi are in telepathic communication when there is no evidence whatsoever to validate such a claim?
Right, there is no evidence to validate the claim of telepathy. I said that the claim is hard to assess. That's because it would be logistically quite complicated to set up a satisfactory test, among other things. If you disagree, could you say why?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: lerner on June 09, 2010, 01:08:00 pm
EducatedIndian wrote:
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ST does some good with some work some of the time. But that doesn't hide the fact that he lives an EXTREMELY well off cushy lifestyle, a luxury townhouse in one of the cushiest places the the country with a pool bought from selling ceremonies and working with frauds like Boylan and Fisher.
Then EducatedIndian wrote:
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ST has (or had) a luxury towhhouse in Laurel Maryland. Is that article lying, or is ST lying to you and not letting you know he has it or had it? The source of that article is a psychiatrist, John E Mack, who spoke with ST and got his permission to put it in a UFO book. Info on Mack: http://www.johnemackinstitute.org/center/center_news.asp?id=227
According the the information included in EducatedIndian's original post, the story about the townhouse took place in 1970. Based on what I know about Sequoyah's life, this would have been right after he returned from Vietnam, and right before he lost much of what he had at the time of that story. More to the point, this was well before he started doing any sort of teaching or conducting ceremony. In other words, the issue of what house he lived in in 1970 is pretty much irrelevant. Is there any evidence that Sequoyah has lived a "cushy" lifestyle at any time in the last three decades?
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on June 09, 2010, 03:33:24 pm
educatedindian wote:
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How hard is it for him to ask the website to quit lying about him?

I checked the links posted earlier in the thread, and I also did a google search of the site, and as far as I can tell they've removed all the offending material.

Lerner

That's interesting. There is no mention of him at the site, nor of the ceremonies they (ST and the center) sold. No mention at all, so we don't know if
a) ST asked the site to remove the material and they finally did, but he still works for them
b) he no longer works for them, so the site can't sell ceremonies from him
c) everything at the site is simply being updated and the ceremony selling and ST will show up later.

But the timing is extremely curious, coming right after our debate with an ST supporter. Even more curious is if one looks back at all the other sites ST is on. At all of the previously posted links except one, they are now gone. Removed, no longer existing.

The obvious explanation is one we've seen here at NAFPS before, lerner. An exploiter calling herself Amylee hired one of those reputation defender services, along with a lawyer specializing in internet law, and systematically removed all references to herself selling ceremony online.

That all of those sites could simultaneously stop mentioning ST and his ceremony selling is far too big and ridiculous a coincidence to imagine, even more ridiculous than your claims about ST and the Kogi. (The one exception to that is the wovoca.com site, which I'm happy to see is finally down in its entirety.  It means Wm Anderson has finally been unable to convince people to keep funding his offensive nonsense.)

So the next question becomes why would ST or those working on his behalf do this? Hiring such a service certainly doesn't fit with the super spirchul selfless image he's built up. It obviously means he has some money, or those working on his behalf are willing to spend it for him.

And if you have those supposed photos, or supposed accounts of meetings, let's see them. Until then, it's just incredibly convenient claims from an ST supporter. I would also like to know your stake in all of this and why you go to such lengths to defend him. After all, you joined and posted a dozen posts to defend him or ask about ceremony in short time, while admitting it is an issue which you don't know much about.

Your email when you joined also has nafps in the address. Some might consider that a deliberate attempt at impersonation or identity theft, or at least trying to spread confusion by possibly going around pretending to be us.

So to proactively prevent you from doing that, I will post your email address here, so everyone knows you are not acting upon NAFPS's behalf.

nafps@oib.com

We also need to consider whether to ban you for what seems to be a deliberate attempt at identity theft, unless you can come up with an explanation fast. Until then, you are barred from posting, but not from signing in or viewing posts. Sign in and contact a mod, ASAP.

Your email address is also from a service that advertises it alows the user to create "an unlimited number of disposable email addresses." So it seems ST is using someone with a desire for internet intrigue and disinformation. Again, sure shoots a lot of holes in the whole superspirchul act of his.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Superdog on June 09, 2010, 06:46:52 pm
Just going to interject one more thing.  The createspace link that Lerner posted above is actually a page to buy Sequoyah's DVD (The Path of Peace).  $29.95 for the DVD and $25.00 for the poster of the DVD.

Mighty expensive...as well as mighty commercial.

Doesn't bode well for those arguing that he doesn't profit off of what he does.

Superdog
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Walked Away on March 08, 2011, 08:46:33 pm
I was the Fire Keeper at the AIM Sun Dance in 1997 when Sequoyah danced his third year there.  It was the fifth or sixth time I'd been around him during ceremony, the first having been some ten or fifteen years earlier.  I'd had him come to our home a time or two where he did some teaching with some other people.  His girlfriend at the time, Marlin, from Canada, was full-blood, though I don't remember her tribe.  She once said, "If you have ANY Native blood, you have more than Sequoyah."

Sequoyah had reserved four or five motel rooms in Pipestone for him and the folks he'd invited.  I paid my bill for my motel room, but when I got home and called Sequoyah to say "thanks" and to see how he was doing, he said I was the only one of his guests who paid for their motel room, and he was still at the motel because his girlfriend had changed her mind about letting him use her credit card, and he was stuck with a $1700 motel bill which he couldn't pay and they weren't going to let him leave without paying it.  He said he was going to see a rich lawyer friend who would be more than happy to pay me back if I would go ahead and pay his motel bill.  I explained that we just couldn't afford it right now, but eventually I yielded and he promised me a reimbursement within two weeks.  That was the last I heard from him.

I think this is a good site for helping people avoid frauds, etc.  But everyone needs to keep in mind that we're all stupid humans, hopefully at least trying to quit being quite so stupid.  1997 was a long time ago and I'm sure Sequoyah, like all of us, has learned a lot since then.  But then, people shouldn't try and pretend to be something they're not, and they shouldn't take advantage of good people, who might not be so quick to offer help in the future as a result, and like me, they may step away from ceremony for a long time after something like this happens.  Even good hearts with the best of intentions, can be foolish.  Let's hope we all learn Respect and practice it.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Layman with a laptop on April 28, 2013, 12:54:19 am
I had the pleasure of meeting this guy in Santa Fe. He also claimed that he was a Green Beret in Nam.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: educatedindian on April 28, 2013, 03:24:28 pm
Could you tell us a bit more? Did you meet him when he was selling ceremony? At one of his UFO gatherings?

As of 2010 he was still selling ceremony to UFO types, a "dance of peace" with other dubious types.
http://goldenageofgaia.com/2010/06/the-conscious-convergence-gathering-greenwood-village-co/

This one he was posing as a Mayan expert. So now that makes Cherokee, Mohawk, and Chotaw ancestry he claimed, plus to be teaching Kogi and Mayan ways, and also peddling Lakota ceremony before.
The first two claims of ancestry he seems to have dropped, only claiming now to be Choctaw.

A 2013 book describes him at a UFO conference with noted fraud Diane Fisher/Dyani Yawahoo. But there's no date mentioned for when the conference was.
http://books.google.com/books?id=6-kkOBKTjK0C&pg=PT396&lpg=PT396&dq=%22sequoyah+trueblood%22+ufo&source=bl&ots=IdIucQeWB6&sig=F0VuCYKpdYuLDYEn4cCOohdHrzg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_Dx9Ue_bLo7A4APa74CQBg&sqi=2&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBQ
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: loudcrow on April 28, 2013, 04:34:51 pm
I spent several hours last night researching the genealogy of ST. He is descended from Albert
Trueblood born 1831 and his wife Carolina Elizabeth Totty. Albert is descended from Amos
Trueblood. Albert and Carolina migrated to North Carolina from England in the late 1600's and
were Quakers.

A son of Albert and Carolina, Albert Herschel Trueblood, was born in 1872 in Reeseville, Texas.
He married Mary Jane Muncrief, daughter of Sam and Margaret Hall Muncrief. Mary Jane is
listed on the Dawes Rolls as being 1/4 Choctaw:

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Muncrief Margaret 0 F 130 P
Choctaw Muncrief Sam 0 M 130 P
Choctaw Trueblood A H 0 M 130 P
Choctaw Trueblood Caroline 0 F 130 P
Choctaw Trueblood Albert H Jr 1 M 1/8 130 273 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood Pauline 1 F 1/8 130 274 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood Sam Muncrief 1 M 1/8 130 272 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood Bryan Sewell 2 M 1/8 130 14193 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood Roy G 5 M 1/8 130 14192 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood Mary J 24 F 1/4 130 271 PURCELL BB
Choctaw Trueblood A H 26 M IW 130 IW515 PURCELL BB

iw=intermarried white, a general nontribal description
bb=by blood
p=parent

Albert and Mary Jane had a son, Roy Gilbert Trueblood who was born
on July 19, 1893 in Garvin, Oklahoma. He also appears on the Dawes
Rolls as being 1/8 Choctaw. Roy married Glessie Winnie Clinton/Clifton
who was born on May 22, 1893 in Lee, Virginia.

Roy and Glessie had a son, Sequoyah Euvaughn Trueblood who was born
on November 16, 1922 in Choctaw, Oklahoma. He married Amy Mills Tucker.
These are the parents of the ST being researched.

1900 United States Federal Census about Roy Trueblood
Name: Roy Trueblood
Age: 6
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Home in 1900: Township 6, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: A H Trueblood
Mother’s Name: Mary Trueblood
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
A H Trueblood 28
Mary Trueblood 26
Roy Trueblood 6
Bryan Trueblood 3
Sam Trueblood 2
Albert Trueblood 3/12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 6, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1849; Enumeration District: 155; FHL microfilm: 1241849.

1910 United States Federal Census about Roy Trueblood
Name: Roy Trueblood
Age in 1910: 16
Birth Year: 1894
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Perry, McClain, Oklahoma
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: AL H Trueblood
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Name: Mary Trueblood
Mother’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
AL H Trueblood 38
Mary Trueblood 36
Roy Trueblood 16
Bryan Trueblood 13
Sam Trueblood 12
Bert Trueblood 10
Paulene Trueblood 8
Downard Trueblood 5
Alonzo Trueblood 3
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Perry, McClain, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1261; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0188; Image: 549; FHL microfilm: 1375274.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Roy Gebert Trueblood
Name: Roy Gebert Trueblood
County: McClain
State: Oklahoma
Birthplace: Oklahoma;United States of America
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1893
Race: Indian (Native American)
FHL Roll Number: 1851807
DraftBoard: 0

1920 United States Federal Census about Roy Trueblood
Name: Roy Trueblood
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1920: Elk, Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Glessie Trueblood
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Roy Trueblood 26
Glessie Trueblood 26
Hope Trueblood 2
[2 2/12]
Evelyn Trueblood 0
[4/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Elk, Oklahoma, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1473; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 107; Image: 415.

The Trueblood and Muncrief surnames appear as being Choctaw in the Dawes Roll. There are
no Cherokee with these surnames on the Dawes Roll.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: willbfree on December 24, 2013, 06:45:35 pm
I had the pleasure of meeting this guy in Santa Fe. He also claimed that he was a Green Beret in Nam.

There's an article about Sequoyah Trueblood's military service and 1976 court martial in Vol. 6 No. 3 of Veteran (March 1986 issue). Thought it was marijuana use in Korea that got him into formal trouble, the article explores just how far down he was spiraling following the recommended use of amphetamines in Vietnam during his time in the Special Forces.

It seems there are people with opinions about whether his decision to change course and embrace his father's Native heritage was a shift made honestly, or if it was some kind of scam to keep himself going after his military path was permanently closed to him.

He seems to have always been very open that his mother was white, and that he had no interest in his father's Native side until after he left the service. (It was his father's obituary, by the way, on the earlier page - Sequoyah Euvaughn Trueblood is the son).

He seems to have been open about how his preachings are ones learned on the road from dabbling in many different cultures, rather than being strict versions from any particular faith. As an outsider, it seems to me that people like him are called frauds, but his offense is more precisely that he is heretical. He's a heretical half-Native American.

Putting aside the tribal politics, he has a heck of an interesting story in any case.
Title: Re: Sequoyah Trueblood??
Post by: Karoniaa on August 30, 2021, 03:57:45 am
I know this man....he married marlan kane from my Mohawk community and before he got married I met him at William commandas home.....we said around talking it was in winter and he had an ignorant, sarcastic demeaner towards woman, when I questioned him he basically waved me off with his arm and disregarded my question, William and Frank were not impressed with him, I got really bad vibes off him.....later about 2years later then I heard he married Marlan......if she was quoted as saying "if you have Indian blood, you have more than sequoyah ". She was right because later what we found out about him being a fraud , he wife in not so many words confirms it.........then it was brought to our attention their troubled marriage ...... Of him using her for his own benefit.......mainly money......and at the time I write this , they moved to her community where no one knows him so he could continue scamming the people......