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Research Needed / Re: Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON
« Last post by educatedindian on Today at 11:29:44 am »
I'm not sure why you thought spamming a group with evangelizing for a cult would get you anyone agreeing. This is the current scandal these past years.

ISKCON finds itself in a holy mess after students file $400-million sexual abuse suit
The organisation finds itself in a holy mess after students file a $400-million sexual abuse suit.

June 26, 2000
ISSUE DATE: June 26, 2000UPDATED: December 21, 2012 12:54 IST

Paeans are no longer a salve for pain
Controversy hovers over them like a halo. Two years ago, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) was rocked by reports of sexual and physical abuse at the society's gurukuls (boarding schools) in both India and the US. Hare Krishna leaders had immediately moved in with a series of damage-control measures, including a promise to set aside $250,000 (Rs 12 crore) annually to investigate the abuse and to provide counselling and financial help to the victims.

Last week, however, ISKCON relived the nightmare when 44 former students of these gurukuls filed a $400-million (Rs 1,800 crore) lawsuit, alleging years of sexual, physical and emotional torture. The suit was filed in Dallas by high-flying Texas attorney Windle Turley, who had successfully sued a Catholic archdiocese in Texas for over $50 million in sexual abuse cases last year.
Turley believes that at least 1,000 children - some as young as three years old - were abused at the gurukuls. He has been quoted as saying that the abuse was of an "unthinkable" nature and included rape, sexual abuse, physical torture and emotional terror.

There are also allegations that teaching positions were granted to sexual predators so that they could have access to children and that young girls from the boarding schools were offered as brides to older men who had donated money to the organisation. The wrongdoings are alleged to have begun in 1972 at ISKCON's first school in Dallas and continued into the early 1990s.

For the first time, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Hare Krishna founder who died in 1977 - has been implicated as one of the accused. Founded in 1966, ISKCON today has a million devotees, runs 50 day schools, 50 spiritual centres, 60 rural communities and 60 restaurants in the US alone.

According to the lawsuit, Swami Prabhupada had ruled that children should be sent to boarding schools at the age of five so that they could learn to become pure devotees.

 Damning Charges
Around 1,000 children were alleged to have been sexually, physically and emotionally abused in ISKCON schools.
The abuse is said to have taken place in 11 schools in the US and two in India between 1972 and the early 1990s.
Many of those abused reportedly became alcoholics and drug-users later. Some even committed suicide.
The late founder Swami Prabhupada is also an accused in the case.
In 1972, when Swami Prabhupada controlled the institution, he was informed about the extensive physical and sexual abuse of minors but he had concealed the wrongdoings from the public as well as the parents, confiding only in a handful of close advisers, the complaint states. The abuse occurred at 11 gurukulsin America and at two in India. Of these only one gurukul exists today in America, says the suit.

The suit goes on to say that teachers and leaders in Indian schools were among the worst offenders and many of them had also been in schools in the US. It is, however, quick to point out that the boarding schools in India were "staffed and controlled by appointees of ISKCON who were, for most part, assigned from the US".

The suit also alleges that a significant number of ISKCON children have become alcoholics and drug users, with many having committed suicide. They suffer from a profound sense of guilt, helplessness and loss of self-esteem, it says.

Turley and his associates are demanding $200 million in actual damages and an equal amount in punitive damages, saying that the second demand seeks to "punish and deter outrageous conduct carried out in heedless and reckless disregard for the safety of plaintiffs". Turley dismisses the ISKCON claim that the organisation does not even have a fraction of the money sought by the plaintiffs. The critics believe that the property and assets of the ISKCON temples would amount to over $500 million.

While the teachers and leaders named in the suit are non-Indians (with the exception of the founder), several Indians who were on the governing body of ISKCON find themselves being named in the suit. Among them is Naveen Khurana who is described as the registered agent for Alachua, the Florida-based ISKCON Foundation.

Another accused is Gopal Khanna, a Montreal businessman and an executor of Swami Prabhupada's estate. Most of the defendants refuse to comment on the case, seeking time to read the complaint and prepare their defence.

Though the Hare Krishna clique was reportedly aware of the abuse of children, it chose to keep the information under wraps.
ISKCON was first forced to confront the problem of student abuse at one of its meetings four years ago when 10 former pupils announced that they had been regularly beaten and caned at school, denied medicines and sexually molested and raped at knife point. "I remember being made to sleep naked in a cold bathtub for a month," disclosed Jahnavi Dasi, 26, who was sent to a boarding school in Los Angeles as a four-year-old. "I had wet my bed and it was easier for them to make me sleep in the tub than to change my sheets," she had said. Jahnavi also said that she had gone into a diabetic coma for three weeks because "they neglected to take me to a doctor".

The meeting led to serious introspection within ISKCON. "We need to get to the bottom of this," Anuttama Dasa, ISKCON North American director of communications, had said. "And to the best of our ability, we have to do whatever we can to try and repair the damage to the children and show them that we do care as a religious society," he had added.

A sociology professor, E. Burke Rochford Jr from Middlebury College in Vermont, had also been commissioned to carry out a study, which ended up confirming several cases of sexual abuse. However, Turley and the 44 plaintiffs think ISKCON has not done enough and are determined to seek retribution for a scarred childhood.
Research Needed / Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON
« Last post by avrea on Today at 03:02:29 am »
Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.

in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.

if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
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"Pretendian Country Today" is a subscription portion of - they are featuring an expose on "… two Pretendian figures …".

Part of it is visible to non-subscribers. Two photos and several links in there:

From Cheyenne royalty to federal informant to 'tribal member'

Or, how to exploit #MMIW for financial gain

This is the first part of a Pretendian Country Today series into Rain Bear Stands Last. It’s gonna be long!

The Indian internet lit up on the afternoon of Friday, July 1, 2022. And it wasn’t because y’all were getting ready for the Fourth of July — powwows, fireworks and all.

Instead it was an episode of Dr. Phil that got people talking. A rerun — no less — of a show that originally aired in November 2021, during National Native American Heritage Month.

But with Indians watching TV at home (or maybe watching at work? no judgment here!), this replay of a program about the crisis of missing and murdered Indigenous women started making the rounds, with many seeing it for the first time.

Well that means it’s time for Pretendian Country Today to spill the tea about a “tribal filmmaker” and his spouse, both of whom played a role in getting one of the biggest shows on the air to focus on an issue that Indian Country has been talking about since the dawn of colonization on Turtle Island.

So if you want to learn more about two Pretendian figures — Rain aka Rain Bear Stands Last aka Serle Chapman aka Serle Lovell Chapman and Sara Atiqtalik aka Sarah Ann Gilbertson aka Sarah Mathuin aka Sarah Anna Mathuin aka Sara Anna Mathuin aka Sarah Chapman — and their fascinating journey from the United Kingdom and into Indian Country, all with the help of the U.S. Department of Justice and tribal and taxpayer dollars, you’re gonna have to keep scrolling.

Paid subscribers only!
On June 2, 2022 this subscription article was published:

I quote the first part of the article, visible to non-subscribers:

'WHAT A HOAX': Pretendian professor slithers away

Carrie Bourassa couldn't even spell one of her claimed Native nations

[Sparks' note: Click article link to watch image "Bourassa’s presentation slide at the top of the Substack"]

Dr. Carrie Bourassa, a Pretendian professor who promoted herself as “expert” on Native health issues in Canada, is no longer employed at the University of Saskatchewan, according to a statement released on June 1, 2022.

“The purpose of this communication is to advise Dr. Carrie Bourassa has resigned from employment at the University of Saskatchewan, effective June 1, 2022,” Dr. Preston Smith, Dean of the College of Medicine, said in the statement.

Bourassa claimed to be Metis from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan; Anishinaabe from Treaty 4 Territory and Tlingit from the Yukon. Too bad none of it was true.

In fact it was so untrue that Bourassa could barely spell one of her claimed Native nations! Yes, this so-called expert told audiences that she was “Tlinglit” — which is not how Tlingit people in Canada or the United States refer to themselves. Ever.

Lest someone out there think Bourassa’s presentation slide at the top of the Substack was some sort of typo or temporary slip-up, it was not. She even described herself as a “Tlinglit/Anishnabe Metis mother” — in a book she herself edited. At least she was consistent with her Pretendianism!

Read on for more. Paid subscribers only!

The italicized and bolded phrases are clickable free links in the original.
"Pretendian Country Today" is a subscription portion of - they are featuring an expose on ". . . two Pretendian figures — Rain aka Rain Bear Stands Last aka Serle Chapman aka Serle Lovell Chapman and Sara Atiqtalik aka Sarah Ann Gilbertson aka Sarah Mathuin aka Sarah Anna Mathuin aka Sara Anna Mathuin aka Sarah Chapman — and their fascinating journey from the United Kingdom and into Indian Country, all with the help of the U.S. Department of Justice and tribal and taxpayer dollars . . ."

Research Needed / Re: Animist Arts
« Last post by Sparks on July 04, 2022, 01:33:53 am »
… Larissa Kaul (trained by Jai Medina at The Balanzu Way School of Shamanic Arts, who also has a thread on NAFPS).

Jai Medina is here:
[Jai Medina — Two-Spirit Shamanic Healing]
Research Needed / Re: Gail Tremblay
« Last post by Diana on July 03, 2022, 11:10:54 pm »
I looked at both sides of Gail Tremblay's family and got as far as the early 1800s, 1813, 1812, 1814 and 1826. All of Father's side are French Canadian immigrants. I wouldn't be surprised if Gail Tremblay was fluent in French. Her mother's side are all from Connecticut and Massachusetts. There are some early ggggrandparents from New York and one ggggrandfather was an immigrant from England. There no way this person is even remotely Indian.
Research Needed / Gail Tremblay
« Last post by educatedindian on July 03, 2022, 06:15:03 pm »
Got a request about her. The genealogy research below isn't mine, passing it along.


She's claimed some variation of "Mi'kmaq and Onondaga" for 40 plus years. This is prominent in her bios as artist, poet, academic (currently at The Evergreen State College in Olympia WA).

The buzz at Evergreen is that she is not who she claims she is.

Tremblay appears to be highly regarded as an artist and poet.

When she teaches, some of her abrasive nature is excused by students with a version of "that's just how strong Native women are". She also is seriously visibly disabled, her ongoing medical challenges are not stabilized (she screams in pain sometimes in class, she does not have adequate caregivers etc.), my guess is this also makes folks less likely to question her.

Her main gallery rep is Froelick Gallery in Portland OR. Once they were notified about the Indian Arts and Crafts Act the only changes they made:

from "Gail Tremblay  (Mi'kmaq and Onondaga)"

to "Gail Tremblay is descended from Onondaga and Micmac ancestors"

But she doesn't even have descent.

She was born 15 Dec 1945 in Buffalo NY. 1950 federal census she, sister, parents are all listed white, as are her paternal grandparents living next door. No one else in her family ever identifies as anything other than white. Census, vital records, military, obits, society news - all white.

Her claims in media and artist bios since about 1980:

"Onondaga Indian"

"Onondaga, MicMac and French Canadian descent"


"father's father was of the Onondoga tribe, her father's mother was of the Mic Macs in Nova Scotia"

"Indian artist of Onondoga, MicMac heritage"

"Onondoga, MicMac, Canadian descent"

"member of the Onondaga and Micmac nations of upstate New York"

"Native American artist of the Micmac tribe (mother) and Iroquois/Onondaga (father)"

"member of Onadoga tribe"

"Gail Tremblay (Mi’kmaq and Onondaga) is a contemporary artist, educator, and Indigenous Elder"


In 1996 for an art installation piece she included an "army blanket she was issued as a freshman at Haskell Indian College in Kansas".

Roland G Tremblay 1917 - 2013
Leela Mae Young 1923 -

Paternal grandparents
Peter Ernest Tremblay 1886 - 1957
Maria B Demers 1887 - 1977

maternal grandparents:
Walter Frederic Young Sr 1898 - 1979
Rae Mildred Holcomb 1896 - 1952

At least 4 generations of this family, no sign of descent, heritage, or of membership in a Nation.

Gail Tremblay's past stories/teachings for media read oddly primitive, sorta pan Indian. Signs of her adjusting her claims perhaps to keep up with times and deflect questions.

Her art pieces go for big $$$

Along with selling through Froelick Gallery, she is active as an artist in other shows including

Her current faculty page has no claim but it used to read "Onondaga and Micmac ancestry"

She is listed "(Micmac/Onondaga)" on The Evergreen State College Longhouse page

Keep this in mind:

"In order to be considered Onondaga, your line MUST be enrolled by 1875, as all those considered legitimate were already tracked. Also, enrollment/membership in the Onondaga Nation is based on MATRILINEAL descent. In other words, the mother must be an enrolled member in order for the children to be enrolled. Keep in mind that our records list ONLY members. If an enrolled Onondaga man married a non-Onondaga woman, the names of the wife and the resulting non-enrolled children DO NOT APPEAR in our records

As an additional point of information, too often we receive inquiries from individuals who erroneously believe they descend from the “Iroquois Tribe”."

Sent in info to Indian Arts and Crafts Board

Gail Tremblay is English and French Canadian. Yet she has represented herself as Native for at least 40 years as a working artist, poet, someone to interview about Thanksgiving, and as a teacher.
Etcetera / Re: Kumaré - The True Story of a False Prophet
« Last post by Sparks on July 03, 2022, 02:15:08 am »
Freely available on YouTube (1:21:40):

However, that version is dubbed into German, which might be a deterrent to many?

That video is no longer available. However, I found another full-length version (1:24:15) with original English soundtrack and Portuguese subtitles:

Also worth reading and watching:é
[Kumare Official Trailer #1 (2012) - HD Movie] (2:04)
[Kumaré: A True Film About A False Prophet | TIME] (4:55)
[Vikram Gandhi: The Power of Believing in Something | WIRED 2012 | WIRED] (13:29)
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