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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: educatedindian on May 18, 2017, 04:59:49 pm

Title: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: educatedindian on May 18, 2017, 04:59:49 pm
WOF had a fake Ghost Dance last year with Leon Carney. See other thread on Carney. All evidence shows he's white and isn't a medicine man of the society he claims. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20160909185919/http://www.windoverfire.com/ghost-dance-event-chandler-mn-june-25/
The 2017 phony Ghost Dance doesn't have a link up anymore, no archive of it.

Mary Laven who runs WOF claims to be a psychic and has a radio show where she defends palm reading, the quack pop psychology practice of regression hypnosis, and an alleged "Inca shaman".

Laven was in marketing before WOF with a BS degree.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-laven-10231335/

Hollow Earth claims from a masseuse who has her own crystal skull.
 https://web.archive.org/web/20160909182207/http://www.windoverfire.com/mary-jo-battey-hollow-earth-theory-tues-mar-3/

Past events include astrology and a white woman Gina Kingsley claiming to be a Mayan healer.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160909193545/http://www.windoverfire.com/archive/
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: Sparks on May 18, 2017, 05:26:27 pm
See other thread on Carney. All evidence shows he's white and isn't a medicine man of the society he claims. 

To be found here:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5009.0 [Leon Carney Medicine Man for a Ghost Dance in June 2017]
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 18, 2017, 05:57:08 pm
This is a screen shot of their Facebook announcement of the event, captured and forwarded around while the page was still active.

It also included a link to this site:

"The Keepers of the Sacred Tradition of Pipemakers http://www.pipekeepers.org/keepers.html

This group is mentioned in the Leon Carney thread. We also have a much older thread on them here: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=332
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: Sparks on May 18, 2017, 10:19:50 pm
This is a screen shot of their Facebook announcement of the event, captured and forwarded around while the page was still active.

It is also preserved ("scooped") here: http://www.scoop.it/t/biidaajimowin-baakiiginigan/p/4078995243/2017/05/15/ghost-dance-a-healing-event-for-all-6-24-17-wind-over-fire-healing-arts-center

I found it via a search that gave me this link: https://www.facebook.com/RedLakeOgichida/posts/10213242574720826
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: Sparks on June 19, 2017, 02:09:52 pm
http://www.windoverfire.com/  is hosting a Ghost Dance on June 24, 2017

WindOverFire.com is down. It seems unlikely to be a coincidence. Either trying to cover up what they are doing, or more hopefully, they could be trying to change. They had another phony Ghost Dance only last year.

(My emphasis in quote above.) The site is up again, but all references to the 2017 Ghost Dance seem to be removed. However, the 2016 event is still there. In case they delete that one, too, I will quote everything except the lodging, camping and restaurant parts. Except for the dates, it seems that the 2017 event was advertised with exactly the same wording?

Quote from: http://www.windoverfire.com/event/ghost-dance-a-healing-event-for-all-62516/
[Whole quote in the thread linked to]
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: debbieredbear on June 19, 2017, 04:15:50 pm
Ok, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't one of the reasons for the Ghost Dance was to pray away the white people?? If so, then these wannabes were trying to do what? Pray themselves away?  :P
Title: Re: Mary Laven & Wind Over Fire
Post by: White Horse on June 26, 2017, 12:58:57 pm
This event was supposed to take place this past weekend, any news is it was shut down, protested, anything?