Author Topic: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision  (Read 699263 times)

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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2013, 02:42:26 am »
Great work Ingeborg!

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studied psychology, philosophy, and sociology and received a doctorate at International University, San Diego, California in 1977
- this isn't clear what he got his doctorate in at all, implied is that it is in one of those 3 subjects, but it might not be

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began his doctoral studies at United States International University, one of the few schools in the U. S. for humanistic psychology at the time.

Profoundly disappointed in his doctoral studies, he decided that if he was to get an education, he would need to give it to himself. As a result, he threw himself into his doctoral dissertation, which was looking for a new model of healing based on vision and creativity, rather then just repair. He felt he really gained the experience necessary to make his innovative techniques ..
- in this version, he doesn't clearly state what his doctorate is in, he implies psychology but doesn't outright say that

The other two bios:

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earned a PhD in clinical psychology from United States International University, San Diego

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earned his doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego

As for what he then says he worked as, all would depend on what USA state he was in and at what time, in terms of what the requirements were. In the late 70s & early 80s he may well have been able to work at particular jobs in the psychology field with only a related A.A. , B.A. degree or even work experience, requirements are much higher now.

I wonder if he actually earned a PhD in Psychology.

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The words that love made--a poetic phenomenology of the poet's experience of being a poet
Author:    Charles Lee Spezzano
Publisher:    1977.
Dissertation:    Thesis (Ph. D.)--United States International University, 1977.
Edition/Format:     Thesis/dissertation : Thesis/dissertation : Manuscript  Archival Material : English

Subjects
    Poetry.
    Phenomenology.
    Poets.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/words-that-love-made-a-poetic-phenomenology-of-the-poets-experience-of-being-a-poet/oclc/18900196&referer=brief_results

More evidence that he is Charles Lee Spezzano:

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CHARLES LEE SPEZZANO, ALSO KNOWN AS CHUCK SPEZZANO

47-416 Waihee Place

96744 Kaneohe

UNITED STATES
CHARLES LEE SPEZZANO, ALSO KNOWN AS CHUCK SPEZZANO owns 1 trademark (registered or pending) in the European Union trademark database (CTM)
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PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION
Market: EUROPE
Class: 9 16 41
Type: Word mark
Number: 000078725
Filing date: April 1, 1996
Status: Live
http://trademark.markify.com/trademark-owner/ctm/charles+lee+spezzano,+also+known+as+chuck+spezzano/1192


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2013, 03:09:57 am »
Another clip from Ingeborg's post earlier in thread, from Spezzano's bio:

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It was during this time that he began discovering deep healing principles in the mind that were not written about in psychological literature. This is when Chuck also attended his first program seminar call Lifespring. Having conducted hundreds of therapy groups and individual sessions at the Rehab Center, Chuck began designing seminars that included the process principle of therapeutic group works with the power of therapeutic exercises of seminars.

He says he took a Lifespring seminar, wonder if he took just one or if he got more involved in the group. Lifespring was a high demand large group training scam, like Est, Landmark, and other type scams.

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One thing all these organizations seem to have in common is that members are expected to "enroll" more people for their trainings/weekends. In other words, graduates were expected to be recruiters. They had you believing you were doing something worthy for their cause, so to speak.


http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring2.html

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More than a year after the tragedy, Waco is still on my mind, for I, too, once gave my life over to a cult.

But my story does not involve the Branch Davidians, or any other religious group that isolates itself in a compound. My experience was with a cult that arms itself not with rifles but with psychological manipulation. A cult called Lifespring.

Ten years ago my husband and I, 32 and 30 years old, enrolled in a course, hoping to improve our marriage. What started out as a weekend workshop grew into a five-month odyssey that ripped apart our family.
http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring3.html

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At least 30 lawsuits sought to hold Lifespring responsible for participants' deaths or their mental damages. The company paid to settle some of the suits before trial and in other cases lost jury decisions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespring

Lifespring: Getting Yourself From Where You Are To Where You Want To Be http://www.lifespring-book.com/


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2013, 02:54:26 pm »

I compared the English and German versions of the text on First Nations on the Power of Vision website:

http://povcanada.com/first-nations/

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First Nations in Canada
First Nations are the first peoples of Canada, and are made up of over 200 culturally autonomous First Nations with individual languages and traditions. Some of these First Nations groups have been decimated by colonization and nearly all First Nations people have been impacted by the Residential School policy that separated First Nations children from their families and cultures throughout the last century.

German version: First nations are Canada's aboriginals. These are about 200 ethnic tribes which are very different culturally. Every tribe has its own language and tradition.
Some tribes still today are largely decimated by former colonisation, and all tribes have been heavily impacted by the Residential Schools in which almost two generations of their children grew up, having been snatched away from their families and natives culture.


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First Nations & Psychology of Vision
About 10 years ago Chuck & Lency were inspired to work more closely with First Nations people. The POV Healing Model has been graciously welcomed in many First Nation communities, as it aligns with many First Nations belief systems. Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet.

German version: In 1991, Lency & Chuck Spezzano felt inspired to increasingly work with First Nations. Since then, they are offering at least once a year a free workshop and one apprenticeship for the First Nations in Canada. The PoV healing model was accepted gratefully by the First Nations, as it can be integrated well into their own belief system.


That PoV can be integrated or aligns with indigenous belief systems is a claim for which no evidence is being offered. Apart from that, both the English and German version say "belief system", singular, conveniently ignoring the diversity of indigenous religions.

It is in fact interesting that possibilities of free workshops and apprenticeships are not mentioned in the English version. The German version also makes use of a racist imagery – that of the natives, knowing their place, of course being grateful for what is offered to them: we boss, you dirtrag – and you'd better show the proper gratefulness. Yeccchhh.

The claim of "Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet" is similarly arrogant and racist, and rather implies the notion that, during the past several tenthousands of years, this giftedness lay dormant. 


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The First Nations Fund
The First Nations Fund was created to support the healing of First Nations so they can teach & inspire their own communities. Financial contributions have been generously donated from each country where Psychology of Vision is taught around the world. Since its inception the First Nations Fund has successfully graduated 19 First Nations people from the 100 day program, and 9 of these graduates have become FN Trainers around BC.

The First Nations Fund is administered by Susan How at the Psychology of Vision Canada office on a volunteer basis.

German version: The First Nations Fund came into being for coping with the numerous problems within the different ethnic tribes. Up to now, 25 First Nations absolved the 100 day program and at this point in time, there are 5 First Nations PoV trainers who introduce their knowledge in various regions and reservations. (Last sentence omitted in German version)


Please note the different figures given for persons having done the 100 day program (19 / 25) and becoming FN trainers (9 / 5).
On the other hand, a mere 19 or even 25 graduates in now 23 years (cf above: "In 1991, Lency & Chuck Spezzano felt inspired to increasingly work with First Nations") is nothing to write home about and does not exactly speak of an overwhelming success among Canadian First Nations.

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First Nations Fund Application
Applications for the First Nations to subsidize accommodation expenses are on an “as-needs basis” for the upcoming June 2012 Apprenticeship. The funding application deadline is April 30, 2012, applications made after this date may not be considered. Contact susan@povcanada.com for more information.

German version:
Generous financial support has gone into the Fund from all parts of the world in which PoV is being taught. This enables First Nations participation in seminars and support of travel expenses and accomodation during the trainings.

The First Nation Fund is also supported by the First Nations themselves. In every year, there is an auction during the Canadian Apprenticeship, during which donated artworks of indigenous artists are being auctioned according to the interests of the Fund.


Again, the English text does not mention any funding going into course fees while the German version does. This may be a possibility to generate (more) donations while it will be impossible for donours to know whether their monies are being spent accordingly.


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2013, 01:41:16 am »
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Our First Nations Trainers are trained in The Psychology of Vision ®(POV) healing model which has proven effective in many cultures around the world from England, Germany, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Taiwan, Canada and Africa.. The three major focuses of the model are relationship, leadership through accountability and finally non-denominational spirituality.

In 1991, Dr. Chuck Spezzano and his wife, Lency, who developed this transformational healing model,responded to requests from First Nations’ communities in British Columbia to donate their time and expertise to begin healing this painful Legacy. Since then they have presented one to two workshops a year in kind, organized by several BC First Nations communities like Haida Gwaii, Gitxsan Territory, Tsleil Waututh Nation and Willaims Lake. To date there are now dozens of First Nations here in British Columbia who have received the benefit of this training and now
are fully qualified in using this healing model to now support and empower our people, thus the focus of this mandate to send out a qualified FN Healing team to further the healing on the ground in our communities.

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2013, 01:55:25 am »

Again, the English text does not mention any funding going into course fees while the German version does. This may be a possibility to generate (more) donations while it will be impossible for donours to know whether their monies are being spent accordingly.

So they could be raising money from donors in Germany and elsewhere, donors who think they are helping out "those poor aboriginals". While also getting grant money and workshop fees. Plus fees for all the "training". Everyone trained is going to feel the need to spread the word, recoup their investment of time and energy. Plus these large group trainings are abusive, people are traumatized and weirded out by them, they will tend to blame themselves and think they just need to do more trainings. More workshops and seminars. And that they need to go out and do this to other people.

"Psychology of Vision healing model" sounds scientific, hey it even has the word Psychology in there! But it isn't scientific, and it isn't sound psychology.

The Spezzanos made this all up themselves, based on other large group trainings and general Nuage psychobabble. Doesn't look they are licensed in the field of psychology currently, since they aren't licensed and they aren't working in a healthy manner in the actual legit field of psychology - they aren't as many checks and balances, no one directly to hold them accountable.

By calling themselves trainers and coaches, by claiming that this all is spiritual enlightenment they want to pass on, they are side stepping ethical boundaries. They really can do most anything in these trainings and then explain most any negative results away.

I believe they are scam artists that are after $.

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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2013, 02:14:35 am »
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AGHUDANG - RESPECT
Physcology of Vision - 5 day Workshop
September 30, October 2-4
10:00am - 6pm (estimated end time)

ERIC GONZALEZ INTENSIVE
October 16-18

This is an example of what one community is going through, they are having a Psychology of Vision 5 day workshop, and then a few weeks later an Erick Gonzalez Intensive.

Info on Erick Gonzalez http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.0
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.msg32107#msg32107


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2013, 03:06:48 am »
So far haven't seen Chuck Spezzano claiming any NDN heritage, but just in case, here is his mother's obit: http://www.madduxfuquahinton.com/obituaries/Ruby-Katherine-Kane1721460222/#!/Obituary


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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2013, 03:48:57 am »
A critique of a Psychology of Vision ad and web site, by a psychologist (comments worth reading also):

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Nowhere on the site was there anything to do with what I, or any other actual psychologist, would understand as the psychology of vision.  Instead, they talk about how your life will be improved, how the community is loving, and how it’s based on the principles of Relationships, Leadership and Spirituality.  I don’t know about you, but that sounds kind of cultish to me!

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Lency’s bio is even better: “Lency is pioneering Psychology of Vision’s mystical path through her joining method, which utilizes the feminine, direct access to divine love, resulting in the release of emotional pain from the body/mind and the experience of miracles of forgiveness and grace.” That’s a masterful load of crap if I’ve ever read one.

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The point is, neither of these people have anything whatsoever to do with the actual psychology of vision, and the whole website appears to be designed to funnel money into the Spezzano’s bank accounts using cleverly dressed up tarot cards and crappy seminars.  I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was a touch of pyramid scheme to the whole deal, given that they train people to be trainers (the seminar in Vancouver is being put on by some local named Kiara Fine) and harp on about community and leadership.  When the trappings of real science and research are appropriated for this kind of purpose, it further obscures to the public what science is actually about and also bilks people out of their money- and that really riles me.

http://robteszka.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/bad-ads-psychology-of-vision-and-light-healing-therapy/
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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2013, 04:03:26 am »
I was really surprised by the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute connection, so I checked out stuff from that angle:

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/5317/Chinese-Communists-Cheer-Formation-of-Zhou-Enlai-Peace-Institute-in-Honolulu.aspx


Zhou Enlai was the Premier of China under Mao Zedong. The institute is run by Xiao Fang Zhou, Zhou Enlai's niece, and her American husband Robert North. They have managed to get Henry Kissinger to say something nice about the Institute in public once (not surprising, since Kissinger's most celebrated moment was meeting with Xiao Fang's uncle and Mao). This sounds like one of those institutes that people with Chinese government connections have been opening in the US in recent years. They usually have vague mission statements like "bridge harmony between China and America!" Or, "bring together Chinese and American elderly!", and are fronts for business, used to host lavish events in which, say, Chinese government officials are introduced to American start up companies wanting to do business in China.  The people opening them also tend to get a bit of material benefits out of the deal.

What's especially creepy about Robert North, Xiao Fang Zhou and this particular institute, though, is that they seem pretty closely connected to Spezzano and his family. Check out Xiao Fang Zhou's FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/xiaofang.north

It's possible the Norths are victims of Spezzano. But it's also possible that he is using the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute for money and access to other students with the Norths' consent. Either way, it's just really bizarre.


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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2013, 02:10:51 pm »
The Zhou Enlai Peace Institute says it is an initiative of the American - China Bridge - A Bridge of Peace Between Two Great Nations http://americachinabridge.com/en/who/ Chuck on board of directors, Lency on board of advisors.

Scroll down to bottom of page and they even have photo and bio of of their legal counsel.

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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2013, 04:10:19 pm »

I found another entry in a public portal where someone posted the question whether PoV was a cult; the thread starter was concerned about a friend who had got into this. Apart from the usual sockpuppet answers, there are two remarkable ones:

http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/ist-psychology-of-vision-eine-sekte

reply by voinvoin dd 14/08/2012

They definitely are a cult! A psycho-cult to be precise! They are using particular psycho techniques to make people dependent. First of all this is not about problem solving, but to detect persons' „weak spots“ in order to „catch“ them as fast as possible and offer the appropriate „healing method“ (of course this will cost money, e.g. € 100 for a Saturday seminar). For persons who happen to be in a difficult phase in their life, or experience a separation from their partner, problems in the family and so on, or for persons simply open and instable, this organisation is particularly dangerous! I wouldn't recommend anyone to get into contact with these vendors of „heavon on earth“.


Reply by annemk dd 13/02/2010

I disapprove of this outfit, particularly as I am a graduated psychologist myself. I know some persons who are members of this religious community (and I think this is what they are) and have heard their experience. PoV do not apply psychological or psychotherapeutic methods. Therefore, the name in itself is misleading. The practices applied there are all not approved scientifically (i.e. a serious professional does NOT apply them). Family constellation does not solve any problems, but simply visualises structures of a particular point in time. To try and solve problems via place holders is similarly nonsensical, as the person impersonated by a place holder is not able to change, and therefore the problem cannot be relieved. I don't know what these people believe. And I am outraged the name of my discipline is abused for this. Talking to a helpline will be more helpful, although I can imagine that participants will feel better for a short time after having taken a seminar. In the same way as every common experience will make one feel better (concert, protest march), this is a simple principle of the psychology of masses. Dear readers, stay away from this. These people are crafty charlatans.

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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2013, 05:05:01 pm »

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Plus these large group trainings are abusive, people are traumatized and weirded out by them, they will tend to blame themselves and think they just need to do more trainings. More workshops and seminars. And that they need to go out and do this to other people.

Quite right. The notion that it is the individual who is to blame is brought forward in their principles. Again, this is something not published in all sections – only the sections „USA“ and „Mainland Europe“ (which is restricted to the German-speaking areas Austria, Switzerland, Germany) publish these principles:

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/

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1) Whenever there is a problem or conflict, there has to be a better way. Even in the most difficult of situations, there is always a solution that would allow everyone to win. Love, joining, forgiveness, communication, cooperation, and choice will lead us through.
2) The world is our mirror. Anything we do to others we do to ourselves first. We can only accuse others of something that we believe we ourselves are doing. We make our own reality and write our own stories. Conflicts with others reflect conflicts within ourselves. By resolving our inner issues, we automatically resolve the problems in our world.
3) Anything that happens to us serves our purpose. When painful events occur, we typically have hidden the awareness of the purpose of the events from ourselves. Through accountability, we gain the power to make another choice, and to change what we do not like in our world.
4) No one can do anything to us that we are not already doing to ourselves. No one can do anything to us that we are not also, at some level, doing to others.
5) As we change our beliefs, we change our patterns. Our direction in life comes from our attitude, which is the result of our continuous choices toward the same end.
6) We are always in the perfect place to learn the lesson we most need to learn in order to heal and grow. Our most painful experiences, once they are healed, become the greatest gifts to ourselves and to others.
7) We construct either heaven or hell on earth, depending on what we give to our relationships. They are the means to create transformation. To bond with others and heal relationships creates an accelerated path of growth, because healing the distance between ourselves and those around us heals problems.
8) Leadership lets nothing be more important than answering the calls for help around us. As we recognize that our best interests and the best interests of others are always the same, we move ourselves forward also. To have true success, everyone’s interests must be served. If anyone is the “bad guy,” everyone loses. It is essential to keep communicating until everyone wins.
9) Problems are opportunities to heal the pain of the past, disguised as the pain of the present. All healing is part of our general purpose; it leads us towards our personal purpose. It is never too late to have a happy childhood. This recognizes that all pain is a misunderstanding. As problems are solved, understanding is brought to past and present circumstances, and our history and our future change for the better.
10) The key to our fulfillment is to live our purpose. Embracing our destiny is the best gift we can give the world. Our personal destiny and purpose is to help the world in some way unique to us.
11) All manner of pain and suffering are washed away by love, when empathic “joining” between two or more people occurs. By transcending personal barriers we can become “one” with others, and experience the higher states of consciousness in which pain can no longer exist.
12) Relationships are the fundamental building blocks of life. Given that relationships are the fundamental building blocks of life, it would also hold that the path of relationships is an evolutionary path. From this it would also hold that every problem is a relationship problem at some root level.
13) We are on an evolutionary path to realize that we are Spirit, on the way to Oneness. Receiving grace and miracles is the easiest way to move toward that aim.
14) Whatever our circumstances, however we see things, the answer always lies in healing. It is what we have come for.


Part of these principles are banalities and platitudes (e.g. „There has to be a better way“). Others are devised to put the blame, either for success or for failure, to the individual person.

The principles also put an enormous emphasis on the individual, making it more or less the centre of its universe: e.g. in „the world is our mirror“, „we are always in the perfect place“, „we construct either heaven or hell on earth“. At the same time, some of these principles may easily create double-bind situations: If I am always in the perfect place, then why is my life such a mess, why is this or that happening to me? Correct answer: The only one to blame for any mess happening is – me.

Given the vast concentration on the individual and their ego, this is in sharp contrast to indigenous world views, as far as I know. So the claim of PoV integrating into indigenous belief systems is a sales argument. It is not primarily devised to draw an indigenous clientele, but to appeal to a Euro clientele: in taking these courses, we learn something which is similar to „Indian religion“.

Principles like no 3, „Anything that happens to us serves our purpose“, on the other hand is quite handy in case people do not get rid of problems, and this one serves to reinforce the individual's fault.

No 4, „No one can do anything to us that we are not already doing to ourselves“, again is a platitude, and it is dead wrong. The further explanation takes quite a different turn in claiming „No one can do to us that we are not also … doing to others“. Once more, the fault is with the individual and no one else.

Mixing in the issue of „leadership“ is probably nothing more but dangling the carrot in front of the donkey's nose: If you take these seminars, you will become a leader. The further explanation contends that „our best interests and the best interests of others are always the same“. Nope. It is my best interest to buy a decent used car for little money – while the car dealer's is interested in sending me off with a piece of junk I paid a fortune for. And this is just one example.

Pain and suffering are washed away by love and this stuff about a higher state of consciousness in which pain can no longer exist: Again the effort is with the individual. Do they feel enough love and forgiveness and advance to a higher state, or don't they – for which they will once more be held responsible (book another seminar).

Apart from all this, nothing in the principles reveals any psychological or psychotherapist method. On the other hand, they repeat one of the basic Nuage notions of the individual being responsible for their own advancement, and being the masters of their own fate. If there's anything they don't like, it's their own fault. This either puts an individual under an enormous stress of accepting everything and smiling happily at the same time, or feel like sh!t and book another seminar.

Subjecting survivors of mental, physical, or sexual harassment and violence to these principles is unethical and once more abusive. The principles will only tell them what happened effin served them right, and now forgive and smile, you're in the best of all possible worlds, and this world is of your own making and others only do to you what you bin doing to them yourself. Yecccchhh. Employing such principles on RS survivors is not going to improve their situation, it will rather endanger their health, thus not reducing problems for their communities, but multiplying and reinforcing problems.





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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2013, 08:44:23 pm »
In UK - Ireland they are VisionWorks for Life http://visionworksforlife.com/

In Japan Vision Dynamics Institute http://www.povj.jp/

Uploaded here is a copy of their Trainer Application 2014. Applicants have to graduate from the 100 day program, teach a program, be in another program, pay a mentor a monthly fee, and be "able to maintain and pass on Miracles easily".

To graduate from the 100 day program: 3 apprenticeships, at least 1 in Hawaii. An apprenticeship is at least 20 days. A workshop day = 6 full hours. Plus other stuff. So looks like 100 day program = at least 600 hours (not including lunch and breaks) and coaching session time does not help with that total.

Also uploaded a copy of their trainer manual.

Lency Spezzano does a lot of arm waving, especially when she talks about "downloading".  Chuck says he has training in hypnosis, don't know if Lency does, but that is basically what she is doing. She is directing, dominating the session, pretending she is translating what the other person is saying which means Lency does most of the talking. She's in charge, this is her performance. She holds their hands and stares at them until they shake and cry. This is so boundary violating. So unethical. This has nothing to do with healing. This has everything to do with targeting vulnerable people and mesmerizing them into forking over more money and time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY

The Spezzanos are acting like classic rainmaker con artists. A classic scam: A town experiencing drought is visited by charismatic con artists who claim they can make rain, they swindle everyone out of their money, and claim any coincidental success as their own and any failure is blamed on their targets.

The Spezzanos claiming they know what is best for First Nation communities is horrible.



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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2013, 05:04:54 pm »

Clinical vs Counselation Psychology

Spezzano sometimes is described as a „clinical psychologist“, while others claim he studied „counselling psychology“:

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm
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Chuck has a B.A. in Philosophy and Psychology from Duquesne University followed by a Masters in Sociology and a Ph.D. in Counselling Psychology from the United States International University. His professional background is in Counselling Psychology, Family Therapy, Short Term Crisis Intervention and Marriage, Family, and Child Counselling. He also worked as a psychologist at the Naval Rehabilitation Centre at the Miramar Air Station in San Diego , California , conducting thousands of therapy groups and individual sessions.

Same site, section „More Chuck biography“

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His next year was spent at Ridgefield, Connecticut at a novitiate, after which he took temporary vows and moved to Bethel Park Collegiate seminary, attending Duquesne University. After three and a half years he found that he no longer felt the calling to be a priest, and so he left the seminary, taking a second major in Psychology as well as Philosophy. He then graduated cum laude from Duquesne University with a Bachelor of Arts, went on for a Master’s Degree in Sociology in an experimental program that included Philosophy and Psychology, while studying Sociology from an ecologic point of view. Duquesne University is the home of existential phenomenology in the U. S., which is where humanistic psychology began.

Chuck also became part of a team at the Rehab Center teaching military personnel to become paraprofessional counselors in an effort to combat drug abuse and to help drug abusers. It was during this time that he graduated with his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology.

http://www.mymedworld.cc/chuckspezzano.html

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From 1980 to 1991, he worked in marriage, family, and educational counsellation.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencySpezzano.htm
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Lency received her BSc (Honours) and MSc degrees in Rehabilitation Counselling in 1975 and 1976 from the University of Arizona. She has designed and administered numerous rehabilitation agencies, training programs and treatment facilities, including the Hawaii Centre for the Deaf and HUGS for Hawaii's seriously ill children and their families.

There are several German websites mentioning a doctorate or degree in clinical psychology:

http://www.robert-betz-shop.de/wenn-alle-menschen-freunde-waeren-p-52188.html

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Chuck Spezzano holds an M.A. In sociology and earned his doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979, he was a psychologist at „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ and had considerable success treating war traumata in Vietnam veterans. Subsequently, he worked in marriage and family counselling

http://www.michaelditsch.de/koerper-psyche/chuck-lency-spezzano.html

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Chuck Spezzano has a B.A. In philosophy and psychology of Duquesne University, an M.A. In sociology, and earned a PhD in clinical psychology from United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he was a psychologist at the „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ at Miramar Air Station in San Diego and had considerable success treating war traumata of Vietnam veterans.

http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=112
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Chuck Spezzano, Ph. D.
clinical psychologist and visionary, consultant and bestseller autor.
Chuck and his wife Lency are the founders of the Psychology of Vision POV, a transpersonal model of healing that employs cutting edge psychological tools and methodology, and wields the miracle power of grace. POV centers around three core elements: relationships, leadership (answering the calls for help) and nondenominational spiritual development.

Lency Spezzano, M. S.
Relationship therapist and author.
She has created and evolved the Joining method, which uses grace to release participants from their inner suffering, connect them with the divine, and carry them into spiritual awakening.


While one might put this down to German Nuagers not knowing too much English, the same claim is also made in the author's portrait with his German publishers. Spezzano has been published by several companies owned by Random House which in turn is owned by Bertelsmann Group (Heyne, Goldmann, Riemann, Kamphausen, Integral).
The eldest available book at Amazon.de I found for one of the Random House companies was published in 2002.

http://www.randomhouse.de/Autor/Chuck_Spezzano/p105313.rhd?pub=8000

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Chuck Spezzano has a master in sociology and earned a doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. Between 1973 and 1979 he worked at „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ as a psychologist and had considerable success treating war traumata of Vietnam war veterans. Afterwards, he worked in the field of marriage and family counselling.

A British student of Spezzano's POV – and practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming claiming to have cured her brain tumour with these techniques – also repeats the claim of Spezzano being a clinical psychologist:

Arielle Essex: Compassionate Coaching: How to Heal Your Life and Make Miracles Happen, June 2004

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Clinical psychologist, Dr Chuck Spezzano and his wife Lency Spezzano inspired me so much with their specialist work on relationships that I became one of their advanced trainers and studied with them for ten years.“


Perhaps there were - errm: a few problems due to him claiming to be a clinical psychologist, so bios have largely (but not all) been updated.

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Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2013, 07:29:33 pm »
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It’s important to note the techniques in play here. Notice how Lency leads, and adopts the physical posture first. She begins the shaking, holding her face in a kind of rictus. As someone who is the centre of control, the power dynamics here matter: she is the leader of this group of about 30 people (I’m estimating from the video). For the seminars that these folk put on, the participants have likely paid a pretty penny just to be there.

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This is, at best, an unintentional scam, where Chuck and Lency Spezzano are making large sums of money of something that just happens to have no connection to reality at all. I, however, don’t think that this is unintentional. The thing is, when you believe your own bullshit, you put your money where your mouth is. The Spezzano’s are, I think, quite happy to simply accept the money of others rather than actually substantiate their claims.

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These victims (and they are victims) have done nothing less than any else would do, if we were set up with false beliefs and led down this path. The person at fault here is certainly not the victim: it is the scam artist who takes the money, who sets people up to fail, and then says that any failure is on you, and not them. This is a combination of scapegoating (the scam-artist deflects the blame for the failure of their system onto someone else) and victim-blaming (the “someone else” is the person they scammed).

All in all, I think the world would be a better place if the Spezzano’s were involved in some kind of legitimate practice, but so long as people are prepared to believe that they’re getting a good deal if someone pulls faces at them for $400, they’re going to keep making money.

Above quotes from Taking Advantage of Seeking a Better Life http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/#more-7200
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