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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: TrishaRoseJacobs on September 05, 2005, 04:09:48 pm
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Okay, this is the most recent time I've recieved an email on Lydia White Calf having made false accusations against the Cruz and the Naropa Institute. The lawsuit was dismissed as having no merit.
I've gotten several emails from rather respectable and reasonable sounding people stating that:
Cruz never claimed to be a spiritual leader of the Ogala Lakota Nation. But he was in fact a Sundance helper to Vernal Cross for twenty years
Eagle Cruz is Yaqui born on the reservation of another tribe (don't know which.)
Cruz did not teach any class on Native Spirituality but rahter, Native American studies.
And that furthermore it was Lydia White Calf herself who demanded Curz teach Lakota Spirituality, that he refused. As well as refused her demand that he teach her songs and how to do ceremonies. And that is why (according to these emails) she brought a lawsuit against him.
Any opinions, further info? I don't want to have him on my website if he was in fact, not at fault.
Trisha
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Naropa is an exploiters institution, I have no doubt of that given the history of its founder. As for this case, it could have been dismissed simply because of the double standard the courts practice all the time for Native religions. Simply because they know so little of Native beliefs they err on the side of caution and take the word of white "experts" on NDNs.
No one ever claimed the course was called spirituality. The complaint was that ceremonies were taught within the class by a fraud. Naropa's own catalog said that ceremonies would be taught, so why would Cruz claim he refused to teach them?
Cross has passed on, but his relatives signed a resolution against exploiters, one that explictly singles out Don "Eagle" Cruz by name.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/4450/lakotatrib.html
"Resolution Regarding Don (Eagle) Cruz - False Prophet
Resolution in Support of The Resolution Regarding Don (Eagle) Cruz - False Prophet Endorsed by the International War Crimes Tribunal May 5-9, 1998
In previous years, the Grey Eagles of the Lakota Nation, (the Lakota Tribal Elders), had developed and adopted a Ten Point document that included a strong stand against non-Lakotas who practiced and performed the Sacred Ceremonies of the Lakotas, which is strictly prohibited by Traditional Lakota Law.
The relatives of deceased medicine man, Vernal Cross, Sr. presented a resolution calling for a halt to spiritual exploitation of the Lakota religion and questionable activities of one Don (Eagle) Cruz employed the Naropa Institute of Boulder, Colorado. Members of the Tribunal developed a Resolution that reaffirmed the prohibition of non-Lakotas from leading out in the Sacred Ceremonies."
And while the White Calfs' supporters includes showboats like Russell Means, they also included some other big name respected Lakota leaders.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/9672/
And if you go midway down this link:
http://freecatalonia.ghostchild.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html
"In mid 1998, the White Calfs rallied cease and desist orders from the Grey Eagle Society of Lakota elders for Naropa to halt the practice of Lakota ceremonialism by Eagle Cruz. Naropa scoffed, quickly issuing a defensive document entitled "The Naropa Institute's View: Native American Studies," which outlined their mission and policy for the program. A paragraph reads:
In developing this program, Naropa faculty have sought out and followed the guidance of highly respected and accepted elders from several Nations including, but not limited to: Arvol Looking Horse and Irma Bear Stops Rooks, Lakota; Thomas Banyacya, Hopi; Jose Lucero, Santa Clara Pueblo; Oren Lyons, Onandaga; and Joe Rose, Anisinabe. Many of these elders have taught Intensives at Naropa, have reviewed syllabi for the courses in question, and have given specific direction about what should and what should not be taught.
"We called up Arvol Looking Horse [Keeper of the Lakota sacred white buffalo calf pipe] and Oren Lyons," say the White Calfs, "and they were both amazed that Naropa would make these outrageous claims. Arvol said he would come right down and help us fight this."
Cruz did work with some Nuage musicians.
http://www.ethereanmusic.com/modules/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=79
But other than that, he seems to have disappeared, which fits with the claim of the White Calfs that they found he had a history of multiple IDs and social security numbers.
Naropa's faculty have little understanding of who is NDN or not. Go to the bottom of this article and you'll see a list of "Natives" and Cruz is the only one who might have been NDN. The first four are all whites.
http://www.naropa.edu/envma/ketchin/sacredshows.html
Naropa has a history of being good at blowing smoke, and I wonder if the people who contactedyou might have fallen for it.
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Found one more. Lots of frauds have been making false claims about Cross.
http://www.nanews.org/archive/1997/nanews05.039
RE: Vernal Cross Claims Denied" ---------
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:11:11 -0500
From: tusweca <tusweca@TWLakes.Net>
Subj: Vernal Cross
UUCP email
Vernal Cross, Oglala Sioux Medicine Man
On September 4th, 1997 Vernal Cross, Oglala Sioux medicine man passed away after suffering a massive heart attack at his home in South Dakota. Since that time his widow and children have learned that a number of people have come forth claiming to have inherited some part of his hochoka, or spiritual way. His widow, Darlene Cross, has asked me to post the following information. "No part of Vernal's hochoka was
passed on. All of his hochoka remains with the family and when he passed away he took his power with him. Anyone who claims otherwise is
subject to arrest and imprisonment under federal law". The following people have made claims of spiritual gifts and/or authority from Vernal
which Darlene states are false.
- Steve McCullough: Bicknell Indiana
Claims Vernal authorized Steve to perform ceremonies, which he never did.
- Larry Thompson: South Dakota
Has claimed Vernal made him a "healer" and authorized him to organize sundances among certain Canadian tribes, which he did not.
- Lenas Red Feather: Pine Ridge, South Dakota
Claims to have been taught how and authorized to run sundances by Vernal, which Vernal never did.
- AKA Vernal Cross Junior: New Hampshire
This person is claiming to be the son of Vernal Cross and Vernal Senior's Junior. Vernal Cross junior resides in Kyle South Dakota and does not
reside in New Hampshire.
- Don (Eagle) Cruz: Boulder Colorado
Did not receive authority to lead sundances or any ceremony from Vernal Cross
- Gerald Bear: Reno Nevada
Did not receive authority to lead sundances or any ceremony from Vernal Cross
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Cool beans, thanks Al.
Trisha
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just read this and heard it from former members of their little clique this chick, some radio host and eliase yenegata graywolf had some kind of plot awhile back to try to lure the pope back here and kill him....i saw an old FB page from 2010 that they talked about it openly......................after that they hads some falling out and al 3 of them started pointing fingers at eachother and calling eachother phonies and fakes
so from what i read her last name is hersloff, she was married to a lakota so she thinks that gave her the right to go around claiming to be lakota and practice medicine
her ex-husband and dennis banks issued statement about her
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If you have an online source please post it. An alleged murder plot of a major world figure is a pretty serious accusation, and we really should not allow something like that to stay here without solid proof.
Also the statement from Banks and evidence of her legal name if you have links.
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Is this her, in her stepfather's obit?
Madison H. Haythe ’33
Madison Haden Haythe of Easton, Md., died in his sleep Feb. 11, 2007.
He was born May 20, 1910, in Virginia, but for many years had lived in the Northeast. On his father’s side, he was descended from Sir Robert Heath, who founded the town of Heathville on the Northern Neck of Virginia. On his mother’s side, he was descended from the Dutch colonial family Riker, whose patriarch, Abraham Rycken, received a charter in 1664 from Dutch colonial Gov. Peter Stuyvesant for Hulett’s Island, which later became Riker’s Island.
Maddy graduated from Princeton magna cum laude and as a member of the first class in the School of Public and International Affairs (SPIA). Prior to his retirement from active business, he had been both an investment and a commercial banker. After retiring, he worked as a consultant until he was 94. An avid sailor his entire life, he was still a member of the New York Yacht Club at the time of his death.
Maddy is survived by his wife of 40 years, Frances Drexel Penrose Haythe; two sons, Thomas Madison Haythe and David Otway Haythe; a daughter, Cynthia Haden Haythe; three stepdaughters, Laura Hersloff Eddy, Francesca Hersloff Murray, and Lydia Hersloff White Calf; and many grandchildren, step-grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
The Class of 1933
https://www.princeton.edu/paw/archive_new/PAW06-07/13-0509/memorials.html (https://www.princeton.edu/paw/archive_new/PAW06-07/13-0509/memorials.html)
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Joann Spotted Bear
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This letter is effective immediately,who betrays the Great Red Nation.of Turtle Island.We do not support Lydia Hersloff
by Joann Spotted Bear on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 7:38am
This letter is effective immediately .
We will not support Lydia White Calf or Kevin Arnett. an anyone who betrays
the Great Red Nation.of Turtle Island.
Joann Spotted Bear
Po Box 20306
Reno, Nevada 89515
775-657-6234
Dear Relations..
Of the Great Teton Souxs and Red Nation i am asking that we have nothing to do with Lydia White Calf / Hersloff or Kevin Arnett. Despite they have been working on the papal bull for 17 year or 20 years. neither never once told the Greater Red Nation on what they were doing, Just recently there was 6 people who went to jail under there choiceLydia Hersloff/ White Calf and Kevin Arnett In the United Kingdom, by using the lakota name. To make profit and financial gain from other country.
Lydia Hersloff/ White Calf , Hersloff being my Swedish descent, or Kevin Arnett.White Calf born out of a seventeen year marriage Royce White Calf of Pine Ridge , South Dakota of the Oglala Lakota People. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH Lydia.. ACCORDING TO HIS SISTER RENEE WHITE CALF..THEY ARE DIVORCE AS OF LAST WEEK.. AND STRONGLY ADVISED THAT THE RED NATION DOES NOT!!!!!!.SUPPORT THIS LADY AT ALL..
Joann Spotted Bear they are not together..and Royce is in Pine Ridge, South Dakota.
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Joann Spotted Bear As of right ..now 9-21-2010 time is now 10:03 am Nevada time and 11:03 Pine Ridge, South Dakota.. Time.
Royce is not with Lydia.. i am talking to Renee White calf , Royce's. is sister..of the Oglala Lakota Nation..
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Joann Spotted Bear There is 2 of us that spoke to Renee White calf and we are witness to Royce being in Pine Ridge and we are talking to Renee White Calf of Pine Ridge to protect our People..and our native Indian nation..
!By www.hiddenfromhistory.org
The Summons was read and posted today by Lydia White Calf/ Hersloff , Lakota,Gertie wrote:
"I am not familliar with this lady, but the last name Hersloff does more sound German than Swedish, but I can be wrong..as I only lived there for almost 40 years"
SHE IS NO LONGER A PART OF THE LAKOTA NATION.. JUST HER KIDS ARE..
She ( Lydia also had a 100 year gord she claimed her Dog dug up 6 feet under ground.and a chanupa and eagle feather she claim belonged to Royce White Calf) . why were these not return to him.
More worse she used her 14 year kid to claim they then bought it (The 100 year old gord,) in the Netherlands.Lydia is 100% honest how dare you insinuate my mom dug that rattle up how we came across that rattle is this store owner in nederland gave it to us she said that the person called it that thing also in his store.
KEVIN ARNETT. who worked on the papal bull and broken treaty's failed to come to the Greater Red Nation and ask for permission from all tribes as he is a white man with a native name. given to him from his adopted father One man does not make dession for the whole 9 nation of the Great Sioux nation without going threw all tribes first Or the 33 treats counsel, let's not for get the 564 other tribes and the 300 in Alaska, Mexico, Hawaii and Micronesia.That name is met to help all not just pick and choose who you want to help.
The Papal bull is is a part of the broken treaty's
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.absoluteastronomy.com%2Ftopics%2FPapal_bull&h=065f6>.A Papal bull is a particular type of letters patent or charter issued by a pope. It is named after the bulla that was appended to the end in order to authenticate it. Papal bulls were originally issued by the pope for many kinds of communication of a public nature, but after the fifteenth century, only for the most formal or solemn of occasions.
Modern scholars have retroactively used the term "Bull" to describe any elaborate papal document issued in the form of adecree or privilege (solemn or simple), and to some less elaborate ones issued in the form of a letter. Popularly, the name is used for any papal document that contains a metal seal. Papal bulls have been in use at least since the sixth century, but the term was not first used until around the middle of the thirteenth century and then only for internal un-official papal record keeping purposes; the term had become official by the fifteenth century, when one of the offices of the Papal chancery was named the "register of bulls" (registrum bullarum)
.Kevin is met to help the people by his honorable name not leave the grass roots outs. However he has been working on this for 20 years according to his dad.
William Annett
My son has laid his life on the line for 20 years for your people, when he could have acquiesced and had a "successful" career. He chose the truth and an effort to change the dominant society. He is still doing it daily on two continents. Just what is it that you've done, apart from talk?
what 2 continents was he working in, because the 9 Greater Lakota Nation or the Navajo Nation has not heard of this man or lady till just lately. and there work.It is my Job to tell the people and the Greater Red Nation the truth as we are working on a International Law Suite. is against the USA and not the United Kingdom are troubles are In the ( USA, Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Hawaii and Micronesia) boarders.
Nisgaa Nation "I gave Kevin Annett his Indian name, Eagle Strong Voice, in 2004 when I adopted him into our Anishinabe Nation. He carries that name proudly because he is doing the job he was sent to do, to tell his people of their wrongs. He speaks strongly and with truth. He speaks for our stolen and murdered children. I ask everyone to listen to him and welcome him."Chief Louis Daniels - Whispers WindElder, Turtle Clan, Anishinabe NationWinnipeg, Manitoba
So why was all Grassroots not notified of this man till recently, I strongly believe we have a voice of our own that we can use and, if these people are going to abuse our traditional ways and can not tell us there plans. then it is best to talk for our self.
UK Police: 6 arrested in alleged threat to pope, WHEN YOU STAND AGAINST,POPE IT IS JAIL OR DEATH. THIS IS CALLED,THE DIVINE HAND
The men, between the ages of 26 and 50, were detained under the Terrorism Act at a business in central London,This is bad business against International Native Indian People. of the greater turtle island. of all tribes.This is a bad idea or democracy for our people.and a good business to the political party.
( John Perkins) from England address with me with this commit..
joann the six people you talk of were working for london city council they were street cleaners they planed to blow up the pope its a big thing here in england
We do not support people like this, Who fail to tell the Great Red Nation their plans, Nor can they talk on behalf of the Great Turtle Island Traditional people. The Navajo Nation or the Great Teton Sioux..or our brother and sister of the smaller tribes. I feel it is time we start to write our own rules and make our own decisions
.Please support me in this decision for the sake of our kids..Only delegates or lawyer will be handling this. case no other person or personal, will be allowed to talk on behalf of the Great Red Nation but it will not be legally effected,
With or with out the voice of the Greater Red Nation of Turtle Island, "Our People's voice come first.
"Lydia and I made a documentary of the law suite against, The Federal government. Together that Lydia say she will not post
These are Lydia words.
."She will need this help to continue her good work, shared mutually by a global family..includng my freely donated production expenses for my documentary featuring her as my honored guest.
This cannot be aired because of her wounded heartThis is Lydia words. or Kiki her son she used in face book to slander my name world wide. in Facebook.Nor did Kevin Arnett return my phone calls. Concerning Lydia Hersloff
She talks of all this money yet never visited the tribes in person. and are not from these tribes but uses tribal names.
We like to share your oppion and knowledge is welcome. and will be posted up.
Director and Founder
International Native Indian Program Inc (INIPI)
Joann Spotted Bear
"Mato wiyan",
bear woman
Of Wounded Knee,
Pine Ridge Indian Reservation
Oglala Lakota.
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www.hiddenfromhistory.org
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Joann Spotted Bear
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UK Police: 5 arrested in alleged threat to pope, WHEN YOU STAND AGAINST,POPE IT IS JAIL OR DEATH. THIS IS CALLED,THE DIVINE HAND
by Joann Spotted Bear on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 7:46am
LONDON – An alleged threat to <span>Pope Benedict XVI</span> led to the pre-dawn arrests of five men in London on Friday on the second day of the pontiff's trip to Britain, police said. The Vatican said the pope was calm and so far planned no changes to his schedule.
The men, between the ages of 26 and 50, were detained under the Terrorism Act at a business in central London. They are being questioned at a London police station and have not been charged. Police said an initial search of the business and other properties did not uncover any hazardous items.
Police said they received information about a potential threat against the pope overnight, prompting the armed operation to arrest the men early Friday morning.
Police declined to say whether the men were British or give details of their ethnicity, but there was no indication that it was a threat involving national security. Protesters and activists have previously been arrested under the country's terrorism laws during high-profile events in<span>Britain</span> such as economic summits and state visits.
The <span>pope's visit</span> has divided opinion in officially Protestant, highly secular Britain. The trip has been overshadowed by disgust over the Catholic Church's clerical abuse scandal and opposition from secularists and those opposed to the church's stance against homosexuality and its ban on using condoms to fight the spread of AIDS.
News of the arrests came as the pope was meeting representatives of other religions, including Muslims and Jews, and stressing the need for mutual respect, tolerance and freedom to follow one's conscience even after conversion from another religion.
Click image to see more photos of the pope's visit to the U.K.
AP/Gregorio Borgia
The Vatican said the pope was informed of the arrests and was pleased he could stick to his schedule.
"We have compete trust in the police," Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi told reporters. "The police are taking the necessary measures. The situation is not particularly dangerous.
"The pope is happy about this trip and is calm."
The Catholic Bishops of England and Wales said they had "absolute confidence" in the security operation to protect the pope and the public.
The pope's security on this trip has been visibly higher than on previous foreign grips, and Vatican officials have acknowledged that Britain represents a higher security threat than the other European countries Benedict has visited this year, including Portugal, Malta and Cyprus.
Benedict travels with his own security detail, headed by chief papal bodyguard Domenico Giani. Benedict's white, bulletproof Popemobile is flanked by eight to 10 dark-suited bodyguards who jog alongside, scanning crowds for potential threats as the pope waves to well-wishers from inside.
There have been no major known attempts against Benedict; his predecessor Pope John Paul II survived an assassination attempt in 1981.
Benedict was knocked down at Christmas Eve Mass in 2009 by a mentally unstable woman who jumped the security barricade inside St. Peter's Basilica. In 2007, a man jumped the barricade in St. Peter's Square and grabbed the back of the pope's vehicle before being pushed to the ground by guards.
Benedict was nearly 30 minutes late for his first event Friday morning, with the Vatican attributing the delay at the time to logistical problems.
The pope was given a boisterous welcome by thousands of cheering Catholic schoolchildren at a suburban London college, where he urged young people to ignore the shallow temptations of today's "celebrity culture."
Benedict also told their teachers to make sure to provide them with a trusting, safe environment — the second time in as many days that he has referred to the church sex abuse scandal. On Thursday, the pope acknowledged that the Roman Catholic Church had failed to act quickly or decisively enough to remove<span>pedophile priests</span> from ministry.
"Our responsibility toward those entrusted to us for their Christian formation demands nothing less," Benedict said. "Indeed, the life of faith can only be effectively nurtured when the prevailing atmosphere is one of respectful and affectionate trust."
The pontiff will meet Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams later Friday, head of the Anglican Communion, in a display of unity between the divided Christian churches.
He also will address British politicians, businessmen and cultural leaders in Westminster Hall, where he is expected to press the need for faith issues to help shape public policy.
On Saturday, he is due to address thousands of pilgrims at an open-air service in London's Hyde Park.
Polls in Britain indicate widespread dissatisfaction with the way Benedict has handled the sex abuse scandal, with Catholics nearly as critical of him as the rest of the population. Benedict's four-day visit to the U.K. has been clouded by the abuse scandal, as well as by opposition to many of his policies and widespread indifference to his presence in this deeply secular country.
Catholics are a minority in Britain at 10 percent, and up until the early 19th century they endured harsh persecution and discrimination and were even killed for their faith. King Henry VIII broke with Rome in the 16th century after he was denied a marriage annulment.
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Associated Press Writers Raphael G. Satter, Jill Lawless, Jennifer Quinn and Danica Kirka contributed to this report.
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Joann Spotted Bear
THIS IS INVALID..BECAUSE KEVIN ARNETT FAILED TO COME TO THE GREAT RED NATION TRIBES. 564 PLUS OR 300 IN ALASKA OR HAWAII
by Joann Spotted Bear on Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 9:19am
We do not support people like this, Who fail to tell the Great Red Nation there plans
Nor can they talk on behalf of the great Turtle Island Traditional people.
The Navajo Nation or the Great Teton Sioux..
Notice And Demand: Cease And Desist Order:By Sovereign Decree Of High King Chief: Scott Phillip Hayes: Crown Fiduciary Trustee For The Original People Of The Supreme Jurisdiction Of The Great Turtle Island):To: (ALL RESERVE BAND COUNCILOR AND COUNCILOR'S UNDER [THE INDIAN ACT]): As The (CROWN EMPLOYEE'S: INDENTURED SERVANT'S) Working For The (CANADA CORPORATION): As The (FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S): Et Al.Preamble: All Sovereign Rights Reserved Forever And Always: As The "Head" Over The Matter Of The (CORPORATE BODIES):All Terms And Conditions Are Forever And Always Held:By The Supreme Original Jurisdiction Of The Great Turtle Island: Et A1:Jurisdictional Script Notice:(Herein And Contained In Sovereign Captures):-------To The Supreme Jurisdiction Of The Great Turtle Island: ( ) - Inclusive = (Contained By Capture): (As Lawful Claim.): (As Truly There.)Or: (Captured To Be Harmless To The Sovereign's) [ ] = Exclusive = [Held Away By Capture]: [As Unlawful Claim.][As Not Really There.]: EXAMPLED AS: [THE INDIAN ACT OF CANADA].The Supreme Jurisdiction: By Purple Ink And Noun-Script And Sovereign Captures:(As The Assertion Of The Sovereign Crown Over And Above) (THE CORPORATION) Et Al.(CORPORATE SCRIPT NOTICE: ALL CAPITAL LETTERS): EXAMPLED AS: ("STRAWMAN") Of The (TRADINGPOST JURISDICTION). As: (ONEROUS FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S: OBLIGATION'S AND DUTY'S: ARE HEREBY IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT): For The Protection Of (The Principle Shareholder's And Principle Beneficiary's Of The Trust): Known By Me As (The Original People Of The Great Turtle Island).THE DOCTRINE OF UBERRIMA FIDES HOLDS THE FOUR RULES OF THE FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS: FOR ALL FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S: Et A1:1. MUST NOT PROFIT FROM THEIR POSITIONS:2. MUST PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY OF ALL ACTIVITY'S:3. MAY NOT COMPROMISE THE BENEFICIARY'S INTERESTS:4. MAY NOT DELEGATE SOLUTE AUTHORITY OVER THEIR BENEFICIARY'S INTEREST OR BENEFITS.THE RESERVE BAND COUNCILOR AND COUNCILOR'S: Are Hereby Noticed: AsDiscovery Is Made For Breach Of Fiduciary Trustee Duties And Obligations: To The(Original People): Whom Are (The Principle Shareholder's And Principle Beneficiary's Of The Trust).(The Principle Shareholder's And Principle Beneficiary's Of The Trust): DO NOT PAY RENT OR PAY TAXES: Of That Which Is Lawfully Held By Titled Allodium In The Women Of The Original People: Et Al.Obligations And Duties Include: Infrastructure: Exampled As: Paved Roads: Free Housing: In-House Flushing Toilets: Hot And Cold Running Water: Laundry Facilities: Electricity Or Generators: (Equal To (CANADA) Houses For Large Families): Firefighting Equipment: Gardening And Farming Equipment: Hunting Implements: Communications: Free Navigation: Child Care Supports And Resources: Respite For Our Women: Et Al. (As The Principle Stakeholder: Principle Shareholder’s: Principle Beneficiary’s: Of The Trust: Are Owed Trillions And Trillions In Gold And Silver: And Have Yet To Receive: Pay Forward: From The Trust: By The Breach Of The Trusts By (THE CROWN EMPLOYEES: INDENTURED SERVANTS: FIDUCIARY TRUSTEES): Are Hereby Authorized By Me: To Pay Forward. All Sovereign Rights Reserved For Hunting And Fishing Rights Reserved For The Principle Stakeholder: Principle Shareholder’s: Principle Beneficiary’s: Of The Trust.)Cease And Desist Order: As (CROWN EMPLOYEE'S: INDENTURED SERVANT'S: ONEROUS FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S): WHO CHARGE RENT OR TAXES TO (The Principle Shareholder's And Principle Beneficiary's) Are In Breach Of The Trust: "THOSE" WHO COLLECT RENT OR TAX DEBT: BY MEANS OF COLLECTION AGENCIES: ARE CRIMINALLY INCOMPETENT AND ARE TO BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY: WITHOUT COMPENSATION: BENEFITS: OR ANY OTHER FORM OF RESIDUAL: DIVIDEND: ROYALTY: PENSION: ET AL.TO AVOID PRISON FOR MISPRISONS’ OF TREASON THE (CROWN EMPLOYEE'S: INDENTURED SERVANT'S: ONEROUS FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S): ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO SURRENDER: AND SUBMIT THEMSELVES: To The (Competent Lawful Jurisdiction Of The Inherent Leadership Of The Original People: Whom Are Hereby Recognized And Affirmed By Me: As (The Lawful Rightful Claimants To The Trust: To The Lawful Common Law Of Custom And Tradition And Usage): (As All Sovereign Rights Reserved For The Safety And Protection For The Principle Shareholder’s: Principle Beneficiary’s: Of The Trust: Forever And Always By The Supreme Jurisdiction Of Turtle Island.)(CROWN EMPLOYEE'S: INDENTURED SERVANT'S: ONEROUS FIDUCIARY TRUSTEE'S): WHOM IGNORE THIS DECREE: WILL BE BROUGHT TO HER MAJESTY'S ATTENTION FOR DEFILEMENT OF OATH AND BOND: AND PLACED UPON A TALLSHIP FOR IMMEDIATE DISEMBARKATION BACK TO HER MAJESTY: FOR HER MAJESTY'S DISCERNMENT: Et Al.Your Silence As Consent: Is Accepted In Peace: Accepted For Value.Sincerely And Solutely:
(High King Chief: Scott Phillip Hayes: Crown Fiduciary Trustee: Principle Heir: Stakeholder Lawful High King Of Ireland And Great Britain: Lawful Inherent King Chief For The Original People: For The Supreme Jurisdiction Of The Original People Of The Great Turtle Island: Et Al).We In Agreement Are The Lawful Claimants: Principle Shareholder’s: Principle Beneficiary’s: Of The Trust:
The Lawful Women The Lawful Men
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Joann Spotted Bear
Joann Spotted Bear This letter is effective immediately,
Kevin Annett or Lydia Hersloff
We do not support these 2 people at allnor do we approve of there wrong doings in trying to Kill the Pope. or any one for that matter..
They have no rights talking on behalf other 564 tribes..or the grass roots..let alone..trying to kill the pope or us...
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Joe Roberts who decides who can speak? If one voice is silenced we are all silenced
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Joann Spotted Bear
o yha..
and who in the heck Gave this man permission to go and terrorist attack on the pope on behalf of all of Tribes??
when he never spoke to all tribes..to make it more clear he never even went to the Lakota siouxs..all tribes or treaty people..
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Joann Spotted Bear LILIA WHITE CALF this woman has no business use the Lakota name as a grounds to attack on any one..
Matter of fact she claimed i held her up at gun point..and stole 3,000 from her..
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Joann Spotted Bear
LaShae Young commented on your link.
LaShae wrote:
"Lydia Hersloff slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them."
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LaShae Young commented on your link.
LaShae wrote:
"Lydia Hersloff slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them."
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Joe Roberts
It is tough when one is in disagreement however the CREATOR gave us lessons in nature. Our choice is simple
“Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.”
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Joann Spotted Bear Joe can i ask who are you to preach after 100,000,000 native have died over the government..and white people have killed our people ..we gave them 200 years of peace and.to this day Lydai hersloff can not even come close to respecting us as native especially the lakota people nor can kevin Annet..
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Joe Roberts
I am this
http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp175-e.htm
and even after this I can give in to the anger or not
I seek knowldge and wisdom and the Creator puts people on my path so I can choose to learn from the people I encounter or dismiss them and take the chance that they hold the lesson I need and that by choice I let walk away...
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Joann Spotted Bear Why do i have to change my way??? And you think, I have Anger Troubles?? read this be for you Judge me.
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Joann Spotted Bear
What is that bible going to help me do..i have my own way of praying..
why do i have to change my wayAfter all the christain beat the hell out of my loved oneand told them if they talked there own tradional langue they kill them
The 500 tribes that died and 100,000,001 million natives.that got annihilated or put them in boarding school away from there own family's..or tribal nation,
because we had our own way of life
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Joann Spotted Bear why should i change my life to make other feel happy..For all i care, Other should feel Happy,
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Joann Spotted Bear It took 100,000,001 Million of Native Indian People to die for your freedom and God to die for your sins.
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Joe Roberts I remember and will never forget and neither will my son, My body has the scars of when I was in care. Yes I feel anger and want to lash out too but to do so means I lose my child to the system that created me and I will not have that life for my child
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Joann Spotted Bear WE DO NOT WANT NO MORE NATIVES BE FEELING THE SAME WAY YOUR FEELING TO FEEL THIS GREAT PAIN AND WE WANT TO PUT A STOP IT..PEOPLE LIKE THIS IS HURTING OUR CHILDREN.
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Joann Spotted Bear WE CAN ALL STAND TOGETHER AS ONE..SOME DAY OUR GRANDMOTHER'S WILL SMILE AGAIN .
FOR THE WORK WE ARE DOING TODAY..
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Lawrence Pelletier
Millions have died and that is why it is important to bring the Canadian Holocaust into the open. This has been done by one of their own. How can you condemn that. I think you need to separate your personal experiences with Mrs. White Calf from your professional life. When it comes to dealing with HIS issue with HIS church and HIS people you have no authority to say he can not exercise his freedom of speech and sanctions of the Creator to expose these murders for what they are. Did you come forward and expose it? Did any of the others come forward and make a stand under great peril. No, why.....because they couldn't......not even our own leaders have done anything about it. And you have no business mixing your news stories up. The 5 people in London had nothing to do with Kevin Annett and explain to me how you have integrated it into your letter saying this is why they have no support. Again, you are wrongfully interfering and making accusations about Kevin Annett and his Canadian church issues because you are pissed off at this Hersloff woman over her marital property settlements, another thing that you probably have no business commenting on. There was no mention anywhere that these people arrested in London were related to or associated with Kevin Annett - But YOU made the connection. What was the purpose of that? Character assassination. Where have you put forward any substantive evidence that Kevin Annett has abused our traditional ways. We haven't seen it up here. And where were you when you seen it? Please explain your evidence to make this statement. I don't like white people any more than most of us do, but we can not have people speaking out without proof, without honor, without justice and without truth.
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Joann Spotted Bear u can not but who in the hell okay
Kevin Annet
to speck on behalf of the whole entire nation. then turn around and try to kill the Pope threw terrorist actions. by trying to kill the pope..
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Joann Spotted Bear
that is...not ..all.......
what about..the use of Lydai and the great lakota nation..our tribe is not claiming her as one of us..matter of fact Royce is no longer with her he is in Pine Ridge and he has not on facebook ...
not to mention jeopardizing. the whole entire nation .by not telling us there plans..
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Lawrence Pelletier
Please explain yourself. How are they jeopardizing the entire nation? From what I can see they are jeopardizing their own nation - by bringing forth the TRUTH that their people killed ours. How are they jeopardizing our nation? Tell me who they are suppose to come and tell down there about their plans? Who is your Grand Chief we are suppose to report to. Who is your clan mother. Where is the head of your governing body we are suppose to inform and get permission from. I don't even know who they are so how the hell could Kevin Annett know who to get the big permission from you allege he is required to have. I will say it one more time. He does not speak on behalf of our nation, he speaks on about the wrong doings of his own people. I suppose we are to shut up about Picton the man who killed all the Native women, because they have no right to pursue our business over our murdered women.....yeah, right. He(Kevin Annett) speaks on behalf of the dead children, which is more than what you have done for those children, he has not jeopardized anything except his own life and brought his government and church to its knees in regards to murdered Native children, He did not attempt to kill the pope and it is not appropriate for you to continue saying they did when in fact, you know that it is not true. Mitakuye Oyasin
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Joann Spotted Bear
first..when you take a crowd and try to blow the pope to hell..
by usen the lakota name..
They Lydai white calf /hersloff..Lakota..and kevin annet..
have placed us as one whole nation in trouble, trouble we never knew was coming..
We as the lakota people never knew was coming. When Lydia use our tribe as her stomping ground...
second we lakota are native indian people here in The Great Red Nation, of Pine Ridge especially Our Tribal leader and Great Teton Sioux as one nation did not know, as one nation on the grassroots their plans.
The United state of Americ claim as there..both Lydai or Kevin are not native at all..
beside it is not your people who are suffering like the lakota and it is not your people who killed Custer it is the GREAT TETON SIOUX and over 200 year it is our people that that ask for peace,
but where in the heck is it.
We are the tribe never allow Lydai to go to United Kingdom to use the lakota name..If it was so..Maybe you should of married her..
So where is the truth in all this..
lets talk about Royce White Calf..according to this man..read for your self..
San Bettelyoun
My brother royce does not have a facebook page....you must be looking at someone elses page
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this is from Pine Ridge, My tribe , My people..are saying this..
San Bettelyoun
I spoke to him today to let him know of what ive heard today, also our tribe is aware of it.....he does have a number if you would like to get ahold of him....Lydia does not speak for any of our people
lets talk about truth shall we..
LaShae Young
Lydia Hersloff slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them
lets talk about tradition do you know Lydai hersloff
Had or has a 100 year gord, chanupa and eagle feathers..and i seen it..
she used her son to write this on my page..he is 14 years old..
Kiki Whitecalf
what thats crazy i wrote all those post and my mom Lydia is 100% honest how dare you insinuate my mom dug that rattle up how we came across that rattle is this store owner in nederland gave it to us she said that the person called it that thing also in his store it would always fall off the self anso he now has a terminal disease my mom does not take these matters lightly also im 14 and i pursue information OK she did not post those OK
she told me her Dog dug it up 6 feet underground and that Royce once buried it..so why was it back in her home
now lets talk about Facebook..and judy lopez. from huston texas.
Sat, July 17, 2010 7:35:21 AM
Eliase Graywolf
judy we aon itre in danger as well as u joann put out hit list with ur name
Wednesday at 7:20pm · Comment · Like · View Feedback (2) · See Wall-to-Wall
TO ALL READERS..
THE PEOPLE AT LYDIA WHITE CALF HOME ( SHE IS NOT A NATIVE SHE WAS MARRIED TO A LAKOTA MAN IN HER PASS,) JIMI MC NAIR AND ELISE GRAY WOLF.
ARE SAYING I HELD THEM UP AT GUN POINT...THIS IS NOT TRUE..THEN THEY ARE SAYING I HELD THEM UP AT KNIFE POINT..NOW THEY ARE SAYING I ROBBED THEM..
IF THIS WAS TRUE I WOULD BE IN JAIL IN BOULDER COLORADO AND HEADED FOR PRISON.WE MADE A DOCUMENTARY, ???????
THIS MAKE Keven ANNETTS TEAMS SEEM AS IF THEY USE NATIVES AND SAY BAD THING WHEN DONE..
Defamation of character can include slander (spoken derogatory statements), libel (written derogatory statements) or both. To constitute actionable defamation, the statements must be false and expose a person to hatred, ridicule or contempt. You also can sue if the defamation harms you in your occupation. Follow these steps to start a legal action.
I have not even spoke of the sweat lodge they wanted to build in Boulder Colorado after i asked them not to and take that 100 year gord to Orville Looking Horse where he lives in Green Grass, South Dakota.
so where is the truth..
from these 2 claiming to native..
i am throwing the world largest law suite of 2010 and i will make sure every thing is in the open..
if you had brains you stand by the red nation and not by these 2 white people..
and do your own back ground instead of allowing these 2 people to make choices for us all as one nation..
We do not support people like this, Who fail to tell the Great Red Nation their plans, Nor can they talk on behalf of the Great Turtle Island Traditional people.
The Navajo Nation or the Great Teton Sioux..or our brother and sister of the smaller tribes. I feel it is time we start to write our own rules and make our own decisions
.Please support me in this decision for the sake of our kids..Only delegates or lawyer will be handling this case no other person or personal,
will be allowed to talk on behalf of the Great Red Nation but it will not be legally effected,With or with out the voice of, The Greater Red Nation of Turtle Island,
"Our People's voice come first.
I will stand by my word...and my people first before, i choose i a outsider..
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Conversation started Thursday
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hi....my name is XXXXXXX......we got a problem in denver im trying to fix.....that problem is eliase graywolf
i wrote this up awhile back and i am getting more and more crazy stories about him,,,,,,including a story that he and the other fake lydia white calf even tried plotting to kill the pope and got caught and released
do you know anything about this?
thanks
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Joann Spotted Bear
yup i know that story very well
haha
crazy fooliooo that bytch
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Joann Spotted Bear
USPS Certified Mail-7006-0100-0006-0997-0843
Thursday, July 10, 2013
ATTN: Len George, Tribal Chairman
Fallon Business Council/Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe
565 Rio Vista Drive
Fallon, NV 89406
RE: Notice of Neglected Onerous Fiduciary Duty of Treaties
Dear Chairman George:
After meeting with you on Monday, June 10, 2013 at 10:00 am of my client trailer, taken off his mother property August 10,2011 and , (Chairman Lenny George, Chief of Police Tom Pysell, Tribal Administrator John Greenhut, my client Wesley Dick, and myself were pleased to see the understanding and the acknowledgment of the wrong doings of the actions of the past, Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribal Police Officer, Tony Giove, Tribal Chairman Alvin Moyle, Tribal Administration their neglect of onerous fiduciary duty of trust statues concerning Wesley Dick property which was illegally taken from Wesley 22 months ago from a Toi-Ticutta whom is a tribal member, also known as the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribal Business council in upholding- good faith between benefactor and beneficiary and again The Tribal Council meeting closed Session on Thursday, July 9,2013 you assured my client Wesley Glenn Dick JR/ Kwassuh that the Decision would be given by the next morning: as of 6:00 pm, on this day, No phone call was received from you or anyone in your office. Wesley Informed you that if, no decision was made by the morning between 8 am and 12 noon on Thursday 9,2013 or Wesley was not notify by the Fallon Business Council/Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribal Council , charges were going to be filed in court due, to lack of return of my client tailor ,lost of income or revenue every man has a right to be self sustain and fend for his family, Therefore , we are now going to address the issue in Court regarding treaties on a National and International level along with United Nations, as no LAW can create harm.
Whereas:
These 8 TREATIES are neglected and, Code of Federal Regulation, Law of the Land
• RUBY VALLEY TREATY of 1863 -
• TREATY WITH THE SNAKE INDIANS/TOI-TICUTTA TREATY of 1865-
• PARIS PEACE TREATY of 1783-
• WESTERN SHOSHONE TREATY of 1863,
• The Fort Laramie Treaty of 1851
• The Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868
• The treaty of Ghent 1814
{To maintain good faith and friendship in all their mutual intercourse, and to make an effective and lasting peace-} These are National and International Treaties recognized worldwide.
• UPU UNIVERSAL POSTAL POWER TREATY - Fail to respond within a timely manner, using the postal power (UPU Universal Postal Power treaty-with the world)
• Treaties as "the supreme law of the land." The text provides that these are the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state.
Whereas:
On all levels Treaties and Supreme Law were denied: "In spite of" notifying tribal official’s duty, I Mato – gleska - Joann Spotted Bear A
• Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribal Lay Advocate
• Reno-Sparks Lay Tribal Advocate
• Winnemucca Tribal Court, Assistant Judge
• Tetuwan of Wounded Knee 1890 Treaty Representative
The following Rules and Regulations were also denied:
• The FEDERAL RULES 801- (18) PAGE 63O –
• Code of Federal Regulations -CFR 25- 1964, 1997, 2006, 2008 all denied.
• PRESIDENTAL DOCUMENTS (Title 3- executive order 13175 of November 6- 2000-) (CONSULTATION and COORDINATION with INDIAN TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS.)
1) The United States has a unique legal relationship with Indian tribal governments as set
2) forth in the Constitution of the United States, treaties, statues,
3) The United States recognizes the right of Indian tribes to self-government and supports Tribal sovereignty and self-determination.
1933 Bankruptcy Act was uses, as the WAR POWERS ACT - BY ROOSEVELT - the Gold Standards Act EXECUTIVE 6102. He first suspended the Constitution and then he used his WAR Power Act and declared Marshall LAW.
The fraud, deliberate withholding of information to cause one to act to his detriment, is this: In all their legislation they fail to define what the United States is.
28 U.S.C. § 3002 Definitions
15) United States Means:
A) a Federal Corporation
An Agency, Department, Commission, Board, Or
C) An Instrumentality of the United States.
***
IE- ( United States of America – Cooperation.)
1) Barack Obama, CEO -President UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , dba COOPERATION
Therefore, if "State" BLACKS LAW 3rd EDITION definition: state, n. 1. The political system of a body of people who are politically organized; the system of rules by which jurisdiction and authority are exercised over such a body of people. 2. An institution of self-government within a larger political entity; esp., nation having a federal government, 3. (often cap.) The people of a state, collectively considered as the party wronged by a criminal deed; esp. the prosecution as the representative of the people.
• Failure to acknowledge Human Rights.
United Nations declaration on the rights of Indigenous people.
Article 33 – Indigenous people have the right to promote, develop and maintain their institutional structures and their distinctive juridical customs, traditions procedures and practices in accordance with internationally recognized human rights standards.
Whereas:
Fraud in the Inducement has occurred and wrong acts against Wesley Glenn Dick Jr./Kwassuh and family have suffered a great deal of hardship lost of income and lawful right to make a living.
ALL OF THESE ARE HIGH CRIMES between Benefactor and Beneficiary to carry onerous fiduciary duty of trustee, regarding Honest Service fraud.
Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe and State of Nevada is in violation of Wesley's Religious Freedom, Treaties and Civil rights. This was and is, in deliberate violation.
1)“The Conquest of Civilization” by James H. Breasted, p 50-1 Writing: Man’s GREAT Invention by J. H. Ober 1°65
Lack of Education is no Excuse. Upmost good faith is violated.
Whereas: in the Holy Bible says;
Exodus Chapter 20 vs. 16 Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Respectively Submitted,
______________________________
Mato –Gleska - Joann Spotted Bear
Tetuwan Treaty Representative of Wounded Knee Massacre 1890
P.O. Box 20306
Reno, NV 89515
775-622-1271
Cc : David Buess
Rudy Al James
Mrs., Athena Brown, Bureau of Indian Affairs- Carson City Nevada
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Press Release: November 1, 2012
DENNIS BANKS : CEASE AND DESIST ORDER TO KEVIN ANNETT
After making myself knowledgeable about the activities of Kevin Annett, I am aware that he is perpetrating widescale and international fraud – financial, intellectual, academic, identity and cultural fraud. In short, Kevin Annett is committing multiple levels of criminal fraud against the Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island and he in no way represents any of our Peoples – individually, or as representative of any of our Nations, here or in Canada. He therefore can in no way act on our behalf in any mock ‘International Court or Tribunal’ proceedings that have no legitimate bearings whatsoever, or ask any other individuals or Nations to act on our behalf in any capacity of Law, or Courts – or in any Legal or Cultural or Advisory manner. This includes the order to CEASE immediately further writings and publishing on the Internet, including any and all websites, or any other forms of press and media, including Radio, YouTube and other video or otherwise televised format.
I hereby order Kevin Annett and his conspirators as follows : Alfred Webre, Bill Annett, Nell Cole, Russ Letica, Marcia Lane, Mel Ve, John Deegan, Lori or Carol O’Rourke and all other complicit participants to hereby CEASE AND DESIST FROM ALL INTERACTION AND ACTIVITY AND/OR ANY INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER REGARDING THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF NORTH AMERICA AND CANADA FOR ANY REASON OR PRETENSE.
DENNIS BANKS, THE AMERICAN INDIAN MOVEMENT, SPOKESPERSON FOR THE PEOPLES OF TURTLE ISLAND
Dennis Banks is scheduled to appear on First Voice Indigenous Radio in November with Ken Bear Chief, Royce White Calf and Lydia White Calf, hosted by Tiokasin Ghosthorse of the Lakota Nation regarding this grave and serious issue facing First Nations Peoples of Canada and American Indians of North America. Date and Time to be announced. Thank you
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ok....the story i finally got was that in 2010 there was a plot on the popes life involving an explosion in a public place, 6 people were arrested in the UK, according to joanne all of them were white and all of them claimed to be in league with militant lakotas and were doing it on behalf of the lakota people due to centuries of christian oppression.
problem is that NO LAKOTA or any indian tribe in north america/canada were aware of this nor would any of them be onboard with such stupidity. stateside there were a few people involved as well and were questioned by the feds, the names i know for sure are lydia whitecalf, eliase/elijah yenegata, and kevin arnett and some other people who supported this plot from US.....only common factor was that they were all pretendians gone militant outside of the approval or knowledge of any tribe
im not sure how any of them got themselves released or who they snitched on....but word through the grapevine is eliase played the "retard card" and being that he was delusional special ed kid in school and it served to help him out
then all of a sudden some of the pretendians did what pretendians normally do, sent the feds after joann spotted bear. she denounced them and ever since eliase has been on the net telling everyone that joann, a REAL warrior for her people is a fraud and phony, insinuating that she works for the BIA and gets paid to divide the people....and then out of the blue he told the feds that she held him, lydia white calf and jimi mcnair (another pretendian from denver area) at knifepoint, then changed it to gunpoint, then he said she robbed him of over $3000
she said she has paperwork she will send me when she can....i will put some of the relevent stuff in bold
i myself failed to find any info on net connecting any pretendians to the plot but i do know eliase was bragging about his involvement ONLINE at one time trying to impress girls....on a thread in 2011...i wish i would have snapshotted it...i didnt believe it at the time...then again i never really read the news from overseas...
but i did find that this kevin arnette guy was howling for the popes arrest once he resigned....and it looks like many of the stateside non-indians all seemed to turn on eachother
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That Kevin Annett is a real piece of work. The more I hear about him, the more I think he has some serious mental issues. Plus he wants to be the star of the show, the great white savior of the Indian people.
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That Kevin Annett is a real piece of work. The more I hear about him, the more I think he has some serious mental issues. Plus he wants to be the star of the show, the great white savior of the Indian people.
It is with respect that I wish to add my voice to this forum. I have known Lydia White Calf and Royce White Calf for the past two years as a result of doing research into Kevin Annett. During that time, I have never found evidence that a 'plot' ever existed to 'kill' the Pope that was hatched either by Lydia or by Kevin. Kevin Annett is a spineless coward incapable of confronting a small puppy, let alone plotting anything so violent. He does however have an agenda that uses the Pope, the hatred for the Vatican and the 'child sex-abuse' issue, as a means of fomenting sympathy for his delusions and attracting some desperate people to his 'cause'. There have been three people to date that have been arrested under the banner of Kevin's ITCCS (International Common Law Court). Kevin has most recently posted a video calling for the occupation of Kanata and the establishment of a New Republik.
With respect to Lydia, she has shed much light on the forces at play in the struggle for Native Sovereignty and the release from Colonialism. When I first met her, I found hers and Royces stories of FBI surveillance and threats to be incredible. However, if it were not for my own personal experiences with members of the 'intelligence' community, ANONYMOUS hackers, and government shills, I would have called Lydia and Royce crazy and as delusional as Kevin. I now know better.
What I know to be true is that Kevin took advantage of the White Calfs (along with many other well-meaning Native activists) and suffered the effects of that relationship. I believe this is Kevin's agenda... to infiltrate groups and causes and then destroy them from within. He does this not by the destruction of the structure of the cause itself, but by destroying the people in those causes. Many lies on blogs have been written and will continue to be written about myself, Lydia and Royce, and the people writing those lies could care less who gets hurt in the process. Kevin has accomplished his task as effectively as if he'd pulled a trigger on a gun pointed at the White Calfs heads... He has done this with most of the true activists here in Canada, and he has enlisted the help of 'well-meaning' white people in the process. It's salt in an already deep and agonizing wound and it makes me wonder the purpose of levelling these 'Pope-Assassination Plot' accusations based on what appears to be a strategic rumor. And how long ago was this??
If you look me up, you'll see I'm no fan of Kevin (as evidenced by my own blog) because I'm no fan of liars or the lies they tell. I bring this in defence of the Lydia White Calf who I have come to know as a friend and ally and I write this for Royce, who once called me 'sister'. While I no longer have contact with the White Calfs (out of respect of their need to sever their history from Kevin Annett's and start life anew) It is important that I give my testimony here today, in the hopes that everyone can move on. Thank you for listening.
Respectfully,
Heather Martin
http://www.stopkevinannett.wordpress.com
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maybe......but they associated with someone (NON-INDIAN ELIASE GRAYWOLF POSING AS A LAKOTA) that sure took credit for it and threw their names in the mix and bragged all over town and all over the net...she kept associating with that fraud even after that and ran to the feds claiming joanne robbed them and they kept changing the story.....i never met lydia....NOR DO I WANT TO.......but in colorado all indians know eachother and word travels quick......................the consensus among the REAL indians here was "what the hell are these wannabes thinking?" .......especially when the few real indians who chose to be nice to these wannabes started getting contacted by feds asking questions.........she can thank her buddy eliase GAYwolf for that
the other word in the community is that she kept meddling in lakota politics which no sane non-indian would ever want to open that can of worms......all under the guise of "helping"........see what happens when you involve yourself where youre not wanted and think you know whats better for indians than they do for themselves...she MAY be innocent of that, but her buddies sure arent...you lay down with graywolfs you end up with fleas.......and joanne has more info........im sorry but i believe joanne
joanne has a track record of fighting on behalf of her people....the others are known liars and imposters and frauds..........who's word do you take?
so why is this annett character talking about occupying canada? its great that people want to support but they should probably leave the planning and the speaking to indians themselves
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Thank you for the add. Please beware of all the white people that say they are representing our people.
http://heathermartnimustbestopped.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mel-ve-and-lydia-white-calf-join-kate.html#comment-form
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Is this post true that Lydia White Calf slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them."
Is it true that Lydia is not still married to her husband and they are not together. She uses his name all the time and so do her friends.
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Beware of Irish 'white-man' John O'Donnell (Fabious Cotter) who supports Kevin Annett by attacking those who oppose Kevin Annett...
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I do not know Joanne Spotted Bear. I am not putting myself into the middle of a very complicated dispute. I simply come here to offer what I know of Kevin Annett which is where I met Lydia, who has been transparent about her involvement with Kevin and her deep regret over it. People want to plaster her name on a forum speaking about her and Kevin as if they still work together and are still friends. What people don't know (and won't until I write a book about it all I guess) is the correspondence, the events and the details that exist in the form of emails, screencaps, etc... from Kevin, from Kevin's supporters and from Kevin's victims that give context to the whole matter. It involves groups that I never would have imagined myself coming in contact with except in some kind of fiction novel. I am not attempting to speak for Native people, but as a person of intelligence, honor and with a sense of justice, I see that a white man is doing great harm to innocent people with his charade. I chose to expose it and in doing so put a target on my back. So be it. The Cotter's, the Pagans and the Kitty's of the world will have their shot at me, but they will have to lie in the bed they made eventually (as do we all).
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MySaskCan is Heather Martin and she is a white woman. This woman has accused me of being this person John. She falsely accuses everybody that doesn't agree with her. Ask around in Indigenous communities. Those that know of Heather have no faith in her words.
A few urls
http://heather-martin-psychopath.blogspot.co.uk/
http://corruptionandthecorrupt.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/heather-martin-of-saskatoons-defamatory-libel/
http://corruptionandthecorrupt.wordpress.com/tag/heather-martin-saskatoon/
http://heathermartnimustbestopped.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/is-heather-martin-hateful-bully-and.html
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peoplesvoices/2014/01/18/what-hidden-history-lies-beneath-an-alleged-pedophiles-deception
http://paganmediabytes.blogspot.ca/2014/01/heater-martin-lydia-white-calf-oh.html
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Is this post true that Lydia White Calf slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them."
Is it true that Lydia is not still married to her husband and they are not together. She uses his name all the time and so do her friends.
Your way of speaking needs to be clearer.
You are the one making the accusation, so far without proof beyond your own testimony.
You say you are Lakota. But so far you have not introduced yourself or made your connection to all of this mess clear.
To both you and MSS, do not simply trade accusations. Provide proof of what you claim and also be extremely clear about who you are.
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I am not making accusations. I am talking about what is posted here on this forum.
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so from what i read her last name is hersloff, she was married to a lakota so she thinks that gave her the right to go around claiming to be lakota and practice medicine
her ex-husband and dennis banks issued statement about her
I am asking if the posts here by others are true.
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i guess the question would be is any of what is posted here true?
We have a statement from Dennis Bank which good.
but what do you bring to the post? What is your defends or evidence
either way so far there is a lot of he said she said,
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Haumikole earthw7,
Thank-you for your friendly post. Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf posted on my blog. She was so hateful and she used racist insinuation, because like Heather Martin she thought I was somebody else. There were posts from Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf that I did not approve. I felt threatened by both Lydia and Heather. I do not know Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf and have heard many things about her in different places. After Ptehinsilska Lydia posted on my blog, I do not want to know her. I wanted to know why these white people were fighting over Indigenous business. Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf, Heather Martin, Kevin Annett and others are white people who are fighting with each other over Indigenous business. Who am I? I am one who walks many places.
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Haumikole earthw7,
Thank-you for your friendly post. Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf posted on my blog. She was so hateful and she used racist insinuation, because like Heather Martin she thought I was somebody else. There were posts from Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf that I did not approve. I felt threatened by both Lydia and Heather. I do not know Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf and have heard many things about her in different places. After Ptehinsilska Lydia posted on my blog, I do not want to know her. I wanted to know why these white people were fighting over Indigenous business. Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf, Heather Martin, Kevin Annett and others are white people who are fighting with each other over Indigenous business. Who am I? I am one who walks many places.
Which is your blog?
Again, do not play games. Do not spam anymore. It was removed and so will any more of it.
First you claim firsthand knowledge, then you claim you only know what's on this forum, and now you are claiming firsthand threats by LWC.
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I don't understand you are telling me. What was removed? What spam are you speaking about? Please read my posts here. I never claimed to have firsthand knowledge. You are confusing me with MySaskCan Heather Martin who claims to have this knowledge you speak about. If you look at my profile that icon leads you right to my blog.
This is my blog.
http://heathermartnimustbestopped.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mel-ve-and-lydia-white-calf-join-kate.html
One educated Indian, you removed quotes from posts by others on the NAFPS forum. If you felt it was spam why didn't you remove it when they were first posted by others. You call what I quoted that other members on this forum posted spam? You attack me and accuse me over what other members posted on this forum?
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I understand but this site is not about who said what it about facts,
what facts do you have
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Facts? I came here asking questions on what was factually posted here on this forum. You seem to have me confused with the Sask person. Read my posts and point out what I said I had first hand knowledge on.
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No i mean everyone who has post on this because i reread everything on the post by everyone who posted
and it just got back to one person said this and another person said this.
So what we need is facts on these people's non enrollment in a tribe, evidence of their work
and where they are sell ceremonies.. ect...
what meeting have they set up and where hard facts
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Thank-you earthw7 for clearing up my confusion. I already told the members here in a post I do not know Ptehinsilska Lydia White Calf. I am here seeking answers like others here. I want to know why these white people are fighting with each other over Indigenous business. Their fight is what sparked my curiosity because they are all white people?
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for the record, joanne told me that this lydia, eliase graywolf, and girl named jimi mcnair went to the feds claiming she robbed them....they did it with absolutely NO PROOF or joanne would be in jail
i have screenshots of eliase kissing joannes ass after meeting her online, then of him telling everyone joanne is his aunt......then an online attack on joanne telling her she was a govt informant and a bia stooge for not participating in their stupid plot.....joanne basically just told him to shut up and quit telling people he was related to her when he wasnt even indian
telling her "go suck up to your precious pope" and stuff like that.....he also started claiming that lydia was also his aunt and how lydia is a respected lakota and she was going to talk to the UN and bring justice back.....whatever...he is a delusional little ethiopian
i dont know much about her except that joanne wants nothing to do with her or her friends.......if her friend eliase is throwing her in the mix then maybe this lydia needs to go talk to eliase and tell him to quit telling all these stories........and joanne has paperwork that says lydia participated in statements to the feds of the alleged robbery that they made up.....even the feds didnt believe them
eliase is also bragging he is somehow connected to some militant jihadist group
when he first came on our radar we wondered "What the F*** did we stumble on?"
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I never claimed to have firsthand knowledge. You are confusing me with MySaskCan Heather Martin who claims to have this knowledge you speak about. If you look at my profile that icon leads you right to my blog.
This is my blog.
http://heathermartnimustbestopped.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mel-ve-and-lydia-white-calf-join-kate.html
One educated Indian, you removed quotes from posts by others on the NAFPS forum. If you felt it was spam why didn't you remove it when they were first posted by others. You call what I quoted that other members on this forum posted spam? You attack me and accuse me over what other members posted on this forum?
Spam is repeating the same thing many times. That's what you've done.
You claim to be Lakota but your blog is in the UK, as is your ISP. And your blog profile is hidden.
Contact a mod when you're ready to quit playing games. Until then you won't be able to post.
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Is this post true that Lydia White Calf slandered Joann Spotted Bear, making statements to me personally that Joann held her up at gun point and stole $3000.00 from her. She also had a man call me the next day wanting to know if Joann was at my house and telling me that Joann had a hit list. She is a non-native and should not be taking actions on behalf of the Lakota people. She claims to be fighting for us while she slanders our own people and seeks to divide them."
Is it true that Lydia is not still married to her husband and they are not together. She uses his name all the time and so do her friends.
Your way of speaking needs to be clearer.
You are the one making the accusation, so far without proof beyond your own testimony.
You say you are Lakota. But so far you have not introduced yourself or made your connection to all of this mess clear.
To both you and MSS, do not simply trade accusations. Provide proof of what you claim and also be extremely clear about who you are.
The above quote appears to be from Fabious (John O'Donnell's) puppet master, Pagan Media That Bites. She is another disinfo agent posing as a 'New Age Indian'. Their interest is in sexual abuse activism whether it be Irish, Indian or otherwise... However they are no crusaders for the victims, they are in place to protect the likes of Kevin Annett by taking out people who oppose Kevin Annett. When Milehighsalute asked what they have stumbled upon this is a very astute and good question. Why does an Irish man like Cotter (Fabious/Ronan/John O'Donnel) feel the need to come onto a forum such as this, when I've left the Kevin Annett issue alone? Is it not an effective strategy to befriend (as Pagan once did) myself, Lydia White Calf, Mick O'Brien, Carrie Lester and others, only to use that confidence and the comments posted on her blog and facebook page as a means to spread lies about us all? This same scenario happened when I had a Facebook page called No White Saviors which only had 35 people on it. A guy named Charley Brown (who is involved with numerous native movements on FB including AIM) put me in touch with a guy named Emil Blonsky. This guy, Emil, claimed to be with Anonymous and offered to dig up any info on Kevin I hadn't been able to find. Emil, turned out to be a guy named Timm Wheeler whose 'day job' is IT security work. Turns out I was set up and this Anonymous group produced a 'report' that glorified Kevin and accused me of working for Aboriginal Peoples Television Network. It was a harmless accusation, but when I asked the author (Kitty Hundal) to remove it she produced a revised copy of the report calling me a liar and that she'd never made the claim in the first place. Since that time, Kitty and Timm have engaged in a campaign of slander and lies written in the blogs Fabious posted links to. Kitty and Fabious (O'Donnell) have been patting each other on the back for their most excellent deception which has always struck me as odd, because Fabious (O'Donnell) has supported Pagan who is outspoken in her hatred of Kevin Annett (supposedly). This leads me to believe that the goal is not to expose Kevin Annett but to take myself and others out of the picture. The question is why? If Kevin is doing the right thing... is righteous in what he is doing (taking down the Pope) what threat am I? Surely he has nothing to fear with God and the Natives and Irish abuse survivors on his side? For the record, I'm no Anonymous Coward....
Pagan's blog: http://thedailyawakening.wordpress.com/
Pagan's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/PaganMediaBites (See post of March 18)
Pagan and her role in the false allegations and arrest of an innocent man: http://youtu.be/HEmrJCGOeuM
Pagan reported Lydia White Calf to Colorado Police on behalf of Kevin Annett after publishing a radio show and several articles/comments regarding the alleged "death threat" against KA. Why is NESARA in on the action?
http://nesaranews.blogspot.ca/2012/11/provocateur-calls-for-murder-of-kevin.html
Pagan's radio show: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peoplesvoices/2012/10/16/john-odonnell-bullying-the-raphoe-report
Ronan Cotter (aka John O'Donnell) posting on Anonygrans FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/AnonyGrans?filter=2
Fabious Cotter:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YXZHRTNxXsKAE9J_MuAUwWmRDF7qebsvFCQs13Ar_v8/edit
and
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QodaDOq_H7eab69YC64efE-5wOL5Ui0YBrJwijr3O-I/edit
Kitty Hundal : https://docs.google.com/document/d/14zEHTpplOmDt6NAdIg0XPxF0Duk4MgPToebYjkemhB8/edit#
Pagan/Aris screenshots of interest: https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0#folders/0B2jUK28W6tniTVMtSG1POHNSQ1k
https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0#folders/0B2jUK28W6tniTVMtSG1POHNSQ1k
and here where you'll see at the end who her friends are:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s7jJ59axPDGS0-2dVV0rUsdW2D9KYi7A9F0EAeTU8s8/edit
Sincerely,
Heather Martin (MySaskCan)
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i for one thinks that helps that you labeled the links
and yes i am beginning to think ALL of the above people are agent provocateurs....and one ethiopian tard who doesnt even know he is an agent provocateur because his payment is feeling indian
none of them have any business meddling in any indian affairs
again, if white people want to help us so bad, maybe they should attend concession/craft show fundraisers, buy proven ndn products and attend powwows to respectfully observe and buy some frybread........why the f*** are they muddying our waters even more by involving themselves in our politics or whatever???
and how come they never talk all this crap about being ndn, about being warriors on our behalf, militance blah blah blah in a room full of REAL INDIANS?.............unfugginbelievable!!!!!
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and i seen the facebook of an "eagle cruz".....he looks to be a chicano gangbanger (not that i hadnt done the same thing in the past) that sundances and northern traditional dances.....did eagle cruz sr impregnate a woman from a northern plains tribe or did the "adopt" sundance? if so that is not very yaqui of him, so i have my doubts about him too..........ALL these twinkies need to go have it out, a big ol battle royale fight to the death.....i hope they ALL win
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i for one thinks that helps that you labeled the links
and yes i am beginning to think ALL of the above people are agent provocateurs....and one ethiopian tard who doesnt even know he is an agent provocateur because his payment is feeling indian
none of them have any business meddling in any indian affairs
again, if white people want to help us so bad, maybe they should attend concession/craft show fundraisers, buy proven ndn products and attend powwows to respectfully observe and buy some frybread........why the f*** are they muddying our waters even more by involving themselves in our politics or whatever???
and how come they never talk all this crap about being ndn, about being warriors on our behalf, militance blah blah blah in a room full of REAL INDIANS?.............unfugginbelievable!!!!!
I'd never heard the term agent provocateur or black operative or bad-jacketing until I was labelled one by KA...lol... ironic....
My experience with Native people has been in the hospital setting... it is a sad affair that local, provincial and federal government officials have failed to actively rectify the wrongs...Here in Saskatchewan we have an epidemic of HIV and HepC cases in the 'First Nations' population... people in government and health care are turning a blind eye hoping it will just go away. I can understand the anger people of any race feel witnessing this injustice... This empathy has been the blinders that obscure critical thinking when it comes to people like Kevin Annett. He sells them some snake oil and they're so grateful because they don't have to feel guilty over the multi-generational effects of colonialization. The dialogue of that first Tribunal was needed and indeed a good first start, but not perfect. Agent Provocateur was a label thrown around within the first day and it's residual energy has only multiplied the negativity surrounding any healing that could have been done. White people (whether true allies or not) indeed placed themselves in the midst of the fray and the impression by outsiders may have been that Native people were incapable of healing themselves. But this is not simply a mishap of competing interests, all trying to do the right thing for the 'poor natives'... There were powerful 'agents' of disinformation, subversion and psychological operatives instigating whisper campaigns and sowing the seeds of destruction. My assertion has always been that the goal has been to destroy the good and true activists and when they're out of the way, substitute the white-savior version of salvation. It's a cruel irony that the 'Indian' must get that salvation from the Great White Reverend (Mr. Eagle Strong Voice) who has impersonated an Anishinabe Elder (a fiction named Jeremiah Jourdain), while laying claim to the nation of Kanata. If taking this imposter out of the equation, so as to allow Native people to exert their own voice, is meddling in native affairs, then I stand guilty as charged....but I'll say this... Not one (real) native person has asked me to stop.
http://stopkevinannett.wordpress.com/testimonials/
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My name is Royce White Calf. I am Oglala Lakota from the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. I am full blood and I am a patriot to my People – the Palestinians of the Western Hemisphere. I stand by them until I die. For me, I was born an enemy of the state, and my war for survival has been since my first breath. For my wife, it has been since shortly after we were married. I have the following statements to make about myself, my wife, my sons, my marriage and the vicious and malicious lies being told about us all.
My wife of 20 years and mother to our enrolled sons, Lydia White Calf, and I have been stalked, harassed, and intimidated ruthlessly by the Intelligence Agencies and their cronies since the day we met Kevin Annett in June 1998. She and I were asked by IHRAAM to be jurors at The Northwest Tribunal in Vancouver Canada which heard the testimonies of survivors of the genocidal Jesuit Residential School system to First Nations Peoples. This is where we met our personal version of Douglas Durham, the agent for the Jesuits who calls himself Kevin Annett.
The above blathering of insanities by this ‘mile high salute’ is so absurd they do not deserve direct response. I have a very good idea, along with many, who she is, and what are her real motives and mental health issues that drive her to such frothing hatred and self-embarrassment. I respond today – once only – to expose fact from fiction for the honor of my People, my wife, my marriage and our sons. I respond finally because our enemy has weakened themselves and it is appropriate to speak good words when others will see the truth from those that have balanced minds, as opposed to those that do not.
Neither my wife nor I are public figures. We occasionally appear on the radio over the years, at the very most. Therefore I wish to continue to protect our privacy, to the extent that it has been violated. I have had many serious health issues the last few years that have left me long term in Pine Ridge. Some of these have been related to deeply severe trauma, for which I have been treated at the IHS in Pine Ridge and Regional Hospital in Rapid City. These periods where I have had to stay close to free health care for multiple surgeries as well – and severe heart issues – have been seized upon by those that oppose the ideology of freedom, who have greedily grabbed at these temporary separations from my family to insinuate every manner of non-truth and ill deed.
Lydia is my wife today, and will be until I make that journey. Her legal name is Lydia White Calf, by white man’s marriage laws – like everyone else in America – on or off the Reservation. We were married on June 24, 1994, and I am here to say that there is no better wife and woman in this world. She has stood by me through many personal crises, and political ones. Because my People are still at war, she has suffered the collateral damage of war, including horrid character assassination. She is kind, intelligent and deeply sincere. She is the mother to my Lakota sons, Wakinyan Oliver White Calf and Akicita Henry White Calf, both enrolled in the Oglala Sioux Tribe. If any of you have a problem with her, then you have a problem with me. You have a problem with my People and you have a problem with my many elders, who have loved her and taken her in over these decades. Come face me at my front door. Or come face us at the door to our Nation.
Let he, or she, who hurls the first lie, OR MOCKS MY NAME, come forward and bare the glass walls of that frail house of their stature as human beings, their lack of principle, their shallow and hollow selves, their valueless sullied harmful existence.
Let he or she who lies about myself, my good wife, our sons, my People…face their maker, our mutual Creator. Know that in my way, and by our laws, Lydia, Wakinyan, Akicita and I pray for good things for you. I am Royce White Calf. I have spoken.
Wazyata Akicita, Ptehinsilaska
March 2014
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16782761-dennis-banks-cease-and-desist-order-to-kevin-annett?clear_cache=true
(obviously the above was not read thoroughly)
https://www.facebook.com/wazyataakicita/photos
A special thanks for the relentless dedication to our People to Heather Martin, a true sister in our struggle.
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My name is Royce White Calf. I am Oglala Lakota from the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. I am full blood and I am a patriot to my People – the Palestinians of the Western Hemisphere. I stand by them until I die. For me, I was born an enemy of the state, and my war for survival has been since my first breath. For my wife, it has been since shortly after we were married. I have the following statements to make about myself, my wife, my sons, my marriage and the vicious and malicious lies being told about us all.
My wife of 20 years and mother to our enrolled sons, Lydia White Calf, and I have been stalked, harassed, and intimidated ruthlessly by the Intelligence Agencies and their cronies since the day we met Kevin Annett in June 1998. She and I were asked by IHRAAM to be jurors at The Northwest Tribunal in Vancouver Canada which heard the testimonies of survivors of the genocidal Jesuit Residential School system to First Nations Peoples. This is where we met our personal version of Douglas Durham, the agent for the Jesuits who calls himself Kevin Annett.
The above blathering of insanities by this ‘mile high salute’ is so absurd they do not deserve direct response. I have a very good idea, along with many, who she is, and what are her real motives and mental health issues that drive her to such frothing hatred and self-embarrassment. I respond today – once only – to expose fact from fiction for the honor of my People, my wife, my marriage and our sons. I respond finally because our enemy has weakened themselves and it is appropriate to speak good words when others will see the truth from those that have balanced minds, as opposed to those that do not.
Neither my wife nor I are public figures. We occasionally appear on the radio over the years, at the very most. Therefore I wish to continue to protect our privacy, to the extent that it has been violated. I have had many serious health issues the last few years that have left me long term in Pine Ridge. Some of these have been related to deeply severe trauma, for which I have been treated at the IHS in Pine Ridge and Regional Hospital in Rapid City. These periods where I have had to stay close to free health care for multiple surgeries as well – and severe heart issues – have been seized upon by those that oppose the ideology of freedom, who have greedily grabbed at these temporary separations from my family to insinuate every manner of non-truth and ill deed.
Lydia is my wife today, and will be until I make that journey. Her legal name is Lydia White Calf, by white man’s marriage laws – like everyone else in America – on or off the Reservation. We were married on June 24, 1994, and I am here to say that there is no better wife and woman in this world. She has stood by me through many personal crises, and political ones. Because my People are still at war, she has suffered the collateral damage of war, including horrid character assassination. She is kind, intelligent and deeply sincere. She is the mother to my Lakota sons, Wakinyan Oliver White Calf and Akicita Henry White Calf, both enrolled in the Oglala Sioux Tribe. If any of you have a problem with her, then you have a problem with me. You have a problem with my People and you have a problem with my many elders, who have loved her and taken her in over these decades. Come face me at my front door. Or come face us at the door to our Nation.
Let he, or she, who hurls the first lie, OR MOCKS MY NAME, come forward and bare the glass walls of that frail house of their stature as human beings, their lack of principle, their shallow and hollow selves, their valueless sullied harmful existence.
Let he or she who lies about myself, my good wife, our sons, my People…face their maker, our mutual Creator. Know that in my way, and by our laws, Lydia, Wakinyan, Akicita and I pray for good things for you. I am Royce White Calf. I have spoken.
Wazyata Akicita, Ptehinsilaska
March 2014
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16782761-dennis-banks-cease-and-desist-order-to-kevin-annett?clear_cache=true
(obviously the above was not read thoroughly)
https://www.facebook.com/wazyataakicita/photos
A special thanks for the relentless dedication to our People to Heather Martin, a true sister in our struggle.
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i have no quarrel with you….i actually have no quarrel with anyone except an associate of your wife’s and any others of his ilk……i infact only relayed what has been told to me...and what I read with my own eyes…..lemme tell the story AGAIN and summarize it better.
i never heard of lydia white calf until 2010 when elijah yenegata tewahade aka eliase graywolf went bragging to everyone on facebook how they were going to kill the pope and named her along with the radio guy. he claimed they were the only "true" lakota warriors "acicitas" and the only ones with the balls to do anything. he supposedly wanted to do this on behalf of the lakota people......where lydia and kevin exactly fit in i am unaware, but HE is the one who named them as co-conspirators and HE is the one who bragged about his intentions. so maybe you should take it up with the guy who drug your wife's name through his ramblings?
joanne happened to be in that "native" facebook group (which no longer exists) and told elijah to quit telling people he is doing ANYTHING for the lakota people or the ndn people in general since he is NOT indian AT ALL. (she was one of the first to find out that he was ethiopian)
on another page he was calling her a pope-lover and an fbi agent and a govt plant to divide "his lakota people" and went on a rant how she screwed over the lakota people by turning him in........i didnt know if she did or not...as i cant imagine her ever working with the govt....but if she did i say GOOD!! lakotas dont need ethiopians running around with insane plots on their behalf...right?
now the other time her name came up is when elijah (eliase) went around telling people that joanne robbed him, your wife and someone named jimi mcnair at gunpoint. he said this all over youtube, facebook, comment sections in different parts of the net.....that is the other time he invoked your wife's name. more than a few times joanne challenged him again on this also.....and he told her to "go defend her precious pope" and that she didnt know what it was to be lakota and a warrior...just him and his friends do.
me, a few friends recognize how dangerous elijah is with his over the top fantasies of being an ndn warrior......so we have been keeping track of him last few years.......and we had a fb group that somehow been pulled down as a "hate site" where we asked that everyone tell us thier "eliase stories" and conversations......everyone was the same.....they all believed he was lakota......and that he was plugged in to the big name aimsters and was some big time activist/enemy of the govt as well as a vet and a pipe carrier, to the extra gullible he told them he was a medicine man of the black elk family.
where does your wife fit in? she was mentioned a few times in the stories.....mostly by girls who elijah was trying to impress by saying she and arnette were involved in a plot to assasinate the pope.......on a hunch i ran her name here and there was already a thread on her......so i added what had been relayed to me to the thread......much of which were copy/pastes from joanne herself. who has no knowledge of lydia other than she is an associate of a whacko.
now it is absolutely true about me asking most indians around as i am actually involved in the community here about what they know about any of this and its absolutley true that none of them know your wife either, but do know the phony elijah, and they wondered WTF i stumbled upon and heard the rumors also before i even mentioned it.....and their reactions were just as i stated....basically "what the hell are all these twinkies thinking? we would as a people NEVER be a part of a crazy plot like that".........that is true...and that is out of MY MOUTH that i witnessed that
so i did NOT want to turn this into an eliase graywolf thread....he has his own thread.........but as i mentioned......you lay down with "graywolves" your are gonna get fleas.....you say you are not public figures....i believe that.....but you can thank mr elijah tewahade-yenegata the pride of ethiopia aka eliase graywolf into turning her into a public figure.......best course? maybe a statement from her calling him a liar and telling what she knows about both tewahade-yenegata and arnett.
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On behalf of the White Calf family, with the assistance of legal council:
In response on behalf of our relative by marriage and blood Lydia White Calf from the White Calf’s of Pine Ridge, South Dakota and Colorado –
The above post by our family member, Royce White Calf, serves as the response of Lydia White Calf as well.
This is not about Lydia White Calf, but about the vicious politics of Pine Ridge, and the war on our People, the Lakota, by agents and schills of all manner, who always expose themselves to the true people by examples such as the above. It is also obvious libel and slander on the part of those posting on this thread perpetrating this libel and slander (not the forum or the administrators) punishable by law - to any that are literate or educated.
For any who wish further information regarding Joane Spotted Bear, please contact our Tribal Council, the OST, in regard to the discussions over the last several years to employ the Bad Man Clause, banning her from our Reservation.
It might serve the administrators to verify that the IP address of milehighsalute is located in Reno, Nevada – the address of Joane Spotted Bear, on public record. Since one spam artist was outed above by the administrators, it is our recommendation and request that the administrators act judiciously. We do acknowledge that a proxy IP address may be in use. So this is not up to us, but a matter for the administrators to debate amongst themselves.
Several credible attempts by real Indian people who requested to join this forum to this effect were never granted access. Therefore, there was no choice but to proceed under the invitation to Lydia White Calf to give a public statement, as it would be impossible for the administrators not to accept her personal request to join.
As Royce White Calf stated, “Lydia is the victim of collateral damage of war”. The above attempted smear campaign and character assassination is so absurd and obvious for what it is – and has been exposed as such - there is no need for further comment.
Any further posts by any of the contributors that engage in harm to our family and our People will be summarily ignored. There is nothing left to say, despite the anticipated attempts to bait such response.
Posted under Lydia White Calf’s account for us by Lydia White Calf’s family in Colorado.
Thank you for your kind consideration and attention.
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On behalf of the White Calf family, with the assistance of legal council...
The above post by our family member, Royce White Calf, serves as the response of Lydia White Calf as well.
This is not about Lydia White Calf, but about the vicious politics of Pine Ridge, and the war on our People, the Lakota, by agents and schills of all manner...
It might serve the administrators to verify that the IP address of milehighsalute is located in Reno, Nevada – the address of Joane Spotted Bear, on public record. Since one spam artist was outed above by the administrators, it is our recommendation and request that the administrators act judiciously. We do acknowledge that a proxy IP address may be in use. So this is not up to us, but a matter for the administrators to debate amongst themselves.
Several credible attempts by real Indian people who requested to join this forum to this effect were never granted access. Therefore, there was no choice but to proceed under the invitation to Lydia White Calf to give a public statement, as it would be impossible for the administrators not to accept her personal request to join.
...there is no need for further comment.
Any further posts by any of the contributors that engage in harm to our family and our People will be summarily ignored. There is nothing left to say, despite the anticipated attempts to bait such response.
Posted under Lydia White Calf’s account for us by Lydia White Calf’s family in Colorado...
Talk about delusional...
I hope any supposed lawyer didn't charge you much. A first year pre law student wouldn't attach their name to such a statement, much less a "council" of them. Or even a "schill."
Really, we can all see there was no lawyer, just a silly bluff pretending there was.
For the record, there have been no "attempts by several real Indian people" to join on Hersloff's behalf that were blocked by us. Why would we? You keep hanging yourself by your own statements, and it's downright entertaining.
Milehigh is not JPB. He posts from Colorado, as he's always been up front about. While I've never met him in person, he and I knew some of the same places in the area from back when I was stationed at Fitzsimmons AMC in the 80s. I have no reason to doubt he is who he says he is.
Hersloff is lying about being able to track IPs. Only moderators can. This is a silly failed attempt to intimidate.
If no further comment is necessary, fine. But I doubt her compulsive need to put her foot in her mouth is done yet.
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besides.......ONCE AGAIN....
maybe she needs to check her buddy graywolf since he is the one bragging about all this and spreading it around
i just repeated what i was told, and reposted what info i was given, and gave personal testimony to what i saw.....which was OPEN DISCUSSION
many people are ignorant of the law.....many throw the words slander and libel around
yet they forget....if they do something wrong in public....or talk about wrongdoing in public like your dog-banging buddy graywolf did......then we are allowed to talk about it
i said a few times in this discussion, that i did not know you....or want to know you....and what had been told to me about you was blah blah blah.....if you dont like me discussing blah blah blah then you best take it up with the source, or make sure no one finds out you were doing it and spreading it around, or just plain dont do it......that is if it is even true
it is already common knowledge that eliase graywolf is a liar and a fraud, you could have just came here and denounced him and no one would have questioned it and would have chalked it up to another delusional graywolf fantasy....maybe you should read the thread here on him
and truthfully i STILL dont believe him just on general principal
as far as lakota politics are concerned the more i know about them the more i know i want no part of that snake pit....aint my tribe....aint my business
but as i already said, you lay down with graywolves....you get fleas
have a good day
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http://you-me-and-the-universe.mixxt.eu/networks/blog/post.Admin:18 all the videos here are now deleted.......hmmmmm
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https://www.facebook.com/american.indian.church.internation.circle?fref=ts kevin annett claiming to be reverend of NAC
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https://www.facebook.com/american.indian.church.internation.circle?fref=ts kevin annett claiming to be reverend of NAC
Yuck! That Facebook was so creepy. I could be mistaken but that so called minister thunderwolf also had pics of himself dressed as a woman. God, what is it about these people, I just don't understand.
Why are these wannabes, pretendians and frauds so damaged? What is it about Indians that attracts such emotional cripples?
We've seen them here many times and they all eventually crash and burn or have the psychotic meltdowns.
It seems like a recent mental phenomenon or psychosis. I believe some of these people have lost contact with reality. It's very perplexing. ??? ??? ???
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Milehigh is not JPB. He posts from Colorado, as he's always been up front about. While I've never met him in person, he and I knew some of the same places in the area from back when I was stationed at Fitzsimmons AMC in the 80s. I have no reason to doubt he is who he says he is.
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January 8, 2017 at 7:20 am · Reply
Nice hit piece – found this in under five minutes – – milehighsalute:
Joann Spotted Bear
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No disrespect to you educatedindian, but milehighsalute is not a male in colorado, but as we tried to tell you joann spotted bear. The Bad Man Clause was enacted on her on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation when she threatened the lives of her family members in Wounded Knee South Dakota, and called openly for the assassination of Russell Means, before his death. You may reposed with anger, however, I wish to state one more time that my wife's legal name is Lydia White Calf, or Lydia Hersloff White Calf on her birth certificate. Again, married women in the Western world are forced to use their maiden names on their birth certificates. I would greatly appreciate it if this is cleared for the record.
No one knows why Joann ambushed our home in the summer of 2010, holding Jimi McNair hostage, with her three young children, in a jeep my wife had just bought for her. She threatened to kill everyone in the house and traumatized my sons. Her son was taken from her by social services shortly thereafter. She has public records of mental health issues and problems with Law Enforcement in the State of Nevada, with many court ordered visits to rehab for meth addiction, and jail time. She refuses to acknowledge our fight to expose Kevin Annett as well.
https://sincetimeimmemorial.wordpress.com/tag/royce-white-calf/
Please feel free to contact Dennis Banks on this issue.
Thank you
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And yes, Ken Bear Chief was our legal council reading this libel by Joann Spooted Bear regarding my wife. Please feel free to contact him as well. As you may know he is a para-legal assistant to a firm that represents victims of abuse form the Boarding School Program down here in the US, and therefore has common legal knowledge. He reviewed the writings here, by Joann Spotted Bear, and advised us accordingly, at least regarding public slander and libel.
We honestly have no idea whatsoever what any of her writings are about in this lengthly thread aside from her insistence that my wife's maiden name is Hersloff. We agree that my wife's maiden name is Hersloff. She has never hidden in any manner that her maiden name is Hersloff. Her original FB name was as follows: Lydia Hersloff White Calf, as she was re-connecting with publishers and editors regarding her career as a photojournalist, which brought her to Pine Ridge in the first place. She came to photograph the boy I adopted, my son, Rocky White Calf, and then became his step-mother. She was doing a large project on Fetal Alcohol Syndrome at the time, and was sponsored by Viacom to do a pilot for a project for Viacom called The New Indian Wars, which then was shelved with the merger with Paramount. Until she married me she had been published around the world as Lydia Hersloff. This is why she still uses the name when contacting press for our causes, and were her credentials to be a Juror in the North West International Tribunal that Kevin Annett and other operatives ambushed. She was responsible, as an example, for getting me live coverage on CNN during the Camp Justice situation during Bill Clintons visit in 1999. If she did not use her maiden name in the tradition period after she married me, her publishers and editors would not have known who she was. She is American from English and Swedish descent. She has never said she was not. In fact she insists on stating she is the white wife of Royce White Calf in every writing she has published on the internet for all to see.
Thank you
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No disrespect to you educatedindian, but milehighsalute is not a male in colorado, but as we tried to tell you joann spotted bear....You may reposed with anger, however...
? "Reposed"?
Yeah, your judgement is still pretty confused. In the several years since those posts I've been in contact with him quite a bit, and his circle of friends. He's definitely not who you claim, and is who he says.
ETA: Spamming removed. If you keep repeating yourself, that's spam.
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again.....i said i never met lydia nor ever heard of her until we were working on a friend of hers, an ethiopian fraud who calls himself eliase graywolf.....one of the guys as educatedindian agrees "has the elements of all the bad guys rolled into one"
then i saw this thread and commented she was a one time associate of his......and said eliase was online bragging about a large scale imbecilic plan that was on behalf of "lakota oppression"
i know all parties involved and their friends had a falling out for whatever reason shortly after..i saw it crumble on social media...i dont know if it had anything to do with eliase's big mouth or not...but YES he was online bragging....i saw it.....and that person whose page he was bragging on took it down.....i didnt know how to screen shot back then
and then some of this stuff was on some new age twinkie messageboards ....those boards unfortunately no longer exist....i kinda pulled it all together and it was DISCUSSED OPENLY and PUBLICLY by one eliase graywolf
i mentioned more than a few times that this stuff was all ACCORDING TO ELIASE GRAYWOLF.....never once did i say i had any proof of anything other than some discussions
in fact...educatedindian even told me to provide some proof it was even discussed so i did....from a forum that had joanne and eliase arguing....and a statement from joanne herself....if i provided nothing he would have removed my post
i saw another post somewhere long ago with eliase telling everyone joanne robbed him and she was like "oh yeah, the feds interrogated me, why didnt they arrest me?" and she says they made it up.......again....this was PUBLIC and as long as it was posted PUBLICLY we are allowed to talk about it
i dunno if you actually read my posts bro.....but every single one of them i never said anyone did anything except that ELIASE GRAYWOLF bragged about this stuff OPENLY online
yes i am in denver......and i think youre mad at the wrong people here.......why arent you looking for eliase and asking him why he is involving your wifes name publicly a few years ago in all this bullshit?
your question should be "why was eliase saying lydia was on his side when he made these wild claims?".....and "why would eliase throw names around?".....and "what kind of idiot is eliase to even post such absurdity online for everyone to see anyways?".....as you know....once something goes public online we are allowed to talk about it, question it, analyze it ect ect
as i posted....i have no quarrel with you.....i have no quarrel with lydia for that matter unless she really did was involved in a stupid plot that would eventually bring the wrath of the world on natives.....but that sounded so insane that natives were involved and someone claiming to be part of the plot was bragging on effin FACEBOOK about it is just ridiculous
no one accused your wife of anything except being a part of graywolfs public babble that unfortunately many non-indians seemed to believe....why arent you angered at him? these are some good injuns here including myself.....we would rather hear lydia say "eliase is nuts he should keep me out of his talltales i publicly denounce him and call him a liar"......no one wants this crap to be true
but this is in "research needed"........not a single person here is actually even saying they believe all this anyways
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The only Gray Wolf my wife and I ever heard of and publicly exposed for being a fraud is a man from California who has appeared on the History Channel and claimed he was 'Chumash'.
http://www.luciolepress.com/Chumash_Indian_Museum.html
We appeared on different internet radio shows summoning support, with other members of The American Indian Movement (California AIM) and the Indigenous Community, to expose him in 2009/2010 and alerted the History Channel they were dealing with a fraud.
He stopped making trips to Pine Ridge after that time and to the best of our knowledge his career as a fraud has been shut down. Like all frauds, he was hateful so perhaps whatever you are speaking about is the typical blowback, gibberish and character assassination from a fraud exposed. I have never seen anything on Facebook of which you speak about us regarding some crazy conspiracy, but he did threaten to kill several other people involved in exposing him directly online. That much I remember. We don't have any records of that, it was way too long ago in a long long line of frauds we have taken on.
If you want to look into him and you find he is still out there, please take him on.
We could really use some help with this one too. He claims to be a 'Blackfoot Elder' and uses the name 'Jim Craven'. He has haunted us for 19 years, and has IP addresses from the DOJ in Washington. With him comes being trailed by Raytheon and DynCorp and Steven Segal's bodyguards - Brown Berets - assessed we had "the highest level surveillance and intimidation program on planet earth at that time", which in their words was SIGNIT and HUMINT, with 7 listening posts surrounding our property in 2001. To this day we are still under this surveillance, terrorized and harassed and death-threated. We could use some help.
https://jimcraven10.wordpress.com
This is no regular FBI:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bill-monica-mossad-global-national-security-james-craven
We could really use some help.
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Chase Iron Eyes, Dennis Banks, Russell Means (when he was alive), Leonard Crow Dog, and even our most historic Medicine Men such as Grandpa Frank Fools Crow all have this same Counter Intelligence network that was once on Jim Craven's blogroll (no screen shots): Rezinate, and Looking Back Woman and on FB, Joe Wade
https://rezinate.wordpress.com
https://lookingbackwoman.wordpress.com
We believe they are all "Jim Craven", as we saw the above on Craven's blogroll, and before we could get a screen shot, they were disappeared, that fast. Joe Wade is blocked form our FB page, so we can't provide that address. Chase has been going through the same level of attack we have within the last few years, especially by Joe Wade (Jim Craven). We all know what Dennis has been through. The last death threat I got out in front of our house was by two feds that pulled up to me in a white SUV and said "This time Royce, we will take out Lydia and your sons". My boys were 17 and 19 at that time. We were in a big war to expose Kevin Annett during that time, who is controlled opposition with Jim Craven. BothCraven and Annett were at The NorthWest Tribunal in Vancouver in 1998 and were suspiciously close to the murder of Harriet Nahanee (and Diana James - murdered in the same month - who organized the Tribunal with her husband and our friend Rudy James on behalf of Harriet). Lydia and I were Jurors, and we sent out Findings to the UN with Rudy and Dianna in July 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Nahanee
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...didn't mean to leave out that our 'attorney', Lee Hill, over Naropa was CIA murdered by the NSA
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/chriszack/
http://www.westword.com/news/the-accidental-jurist-5062161
We need some help.
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What you're claiming is very confused. It's pretty easy to find out that Jim Craven is a former economics professor until three years ago, fired in a dispute with the university administration. I see no evidence at all for the numerous claims you make about him, and you provided none. Or for your other claims. You both easily fall for and spread conspiracy claims. I wonder whether it's from misinformed paranoia, or whether you are yourself one deliberately trying to cause dissension and division.
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Thank you for starting a new page on Jim Craven. Can I suggest, while we're at it that a page is started for Eagle Cruz of Naropa (who fled Boulder in 1999), Gray Wolf of California, and Kevin Annett of Vancouver? Finally Lee Hill came to us, though he is presumed to be dead, posing as Choctaw.
Annett and Craven have a wealth of material to be discussed just by themselves. They completely destroyed and sabotaged the NorthWest Tribunal held in Vancouver of 1998, which would have been historic had it not been for their sabotage. It is time we speak up about what we have been through. It has been almost 20 years of political hell, encountering the real frauds who have sought to destroy our lives.
Thank you
Royce White Calf
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Milehighslaute, we have never heard of this person who you are talking about, or of any writings on FB. As said, the only Gray Wolf we know is the one we fought to expose who was (and possibly still is) making a living off Hollywood - a Mexican posing as Chumash. We know that the last of the Chumash vanished in the 1920's. This Gray Wolf was violent and really nasty to deal with, so perhaps he is the person you are talking of and whatever he did regarding smearing my wife's name never came to our attention. The entire issue you have presented is so confusing we can't follow it, but that is what frauds and shills are good at - perpetuating utter confusion.
As I said we could really use some help for we have more frauds on our plate than we can deal with alone anymore.
I invite you therefore to contact Joann Spotted Bear and clear for her this confusion, as Dennis has got his hands full at the moment with the big issues confronting our People, though he will help us with tedious matters if they really become a problem - and to assist us in the fight to expose the Gray Wolf we took on in 2009/2010 on this thread here. We invite all of you to assist us with the others listed in the post above, for the harm done to First Nations Peoples and Native Nations down here in the US is immeasurable by all of them.
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We know that the last of the Chumash vanished in the 1920's.
http://www.santaynezchumash.org/reservation.html
These are three bad habits of yours:
Presenting false, dubious, unproven or mangled facts,
Repeatedly posting the same thing
and repeatedly posting in wrong threads.
You managed to do all three in a few minutes with your last several posts. Next time you do any of the three you'll be temporarily blocked.
IM me or another mod.
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Chase Iron Eyes, Dennis Banks, Russell Means (when he was alive), Leonard Crow Dog, and even our most historic Medicine Men such as Grandpa Frank Fools Crow all have this same Counter Intelligence network that was once on Jim Craven's blogroll (no screen shots): Rezinate, and Looking Back Woman and on FB, Joe Wade
We believe they are all "Jim Craven"
No matter what opinion anyone may have of the above people, it's very easy to find out that they are not the same person. Why you think anyone would believe they are all this person you are targeting... I have no idea. I don't believe you are this gullible, so why are you assuming our readers are?
You keep posting in different threads trying to attach unrelated people to others against whom you seem to have some kind of agenda. I'm not going to even get into who does or doesn't deserve "investigating" right now. By blaming unrelated people for the actions of others, I'm sorry but at some point it becomes difficult to believe anything you post.
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Milehigh is not JPB. He posts from Colorado, as he's always been up front about. While I've never met him in person, he and I knew some of the same places in the area from back when I was stationed at Fitzsimmons AMC in the 80s. I have no reason to doubt he is who he says he is.
Hersloff is lying about being able to track IPs. Only moderators can. This is a silly failed attempt to intimidate.
No disrespect to you educatedindian, but milehighsalute is not a male in colorado, but as we tried to tell you joann spotted bear.
I took some time just now to double-check what the entire mod/admin team already knew when all of these bizarre accusations started. I went over the IP addresses and geolocations of where all the posts have come from.
Milehigh has *always* posted from exactly where he says he is in Colorado, including at times when JoAnn has been in completely other parts of the country (like in front of cameras, livestreaming, thousands of miles away). "Royce," however, has an extremely widely-varying writing style and "voice" and has at times "posted" from an IP registered by name to Lydia, while Royce has actually been in another state entirely. IIRC, she claimed she posted for him over the phone when we mentioned that. Maybe that's the case. I don't know.
If you're looking for people whose explanations and alliances keep changing, or who look to be sockpuppetting as one another, misrepresenting where or who or how many people they are, or trying to register multiple accounts, I'm afraid the data shows you need to turn the camera in the other direction.
EDIT: I want to make it clear here that I'm not "taking sides" in this. The people involved in this mess seem to have switched alliances and attacked one another in so many confusing ways, it's hard to tell what "side" most of them are on. I just want to say that I don't appreciate the obvious misrepresentations, blatant lies, and attempts to use our forum to advance personal vendettas, by *anyone*. The end does not justify the means. And with a lot of the people in this dirty, tangled web, it's not even clear what the ends are. Since the means are the end in the making, it doesn't look good.
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Yeah, this may just belong in their own thread.
Edit: Merging. If there's any reason this guy deserves his own thread, or if anyone can make any sense of it, feel free to let us know and we'll move it elsewhere if needed.
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The CIA shill center finally checks the IP addresses you insisted you could not above and can assure us of Jaonn's whereabout's over a 4 year period - the roaming meth addict. You apparently don't like The American Indian Movement. We don't like you either. The American Indian Movement hereby denounces Joann Spotted Bear and we will have a formal Cease and Desist Order addressing all of you: Joann Spotted Bear, Al Carrol with your male milehighsalute who you share 'similar places' with and is therefore credible to you - right on the list with Kevin Annett, Gray Wolf, Jim Craven and Don Eagle Cruz. We alone reserve the right to declare frauds, which is the lot of you. You keep on doing what you do...hating Indigenous Peoples. We'll keep doing what we do, fighting the Washichu and his wickedness. We are the Resistance.
Royce White Calf
Akicita Waziyata Ptehinsilaska
and on behalf of Dennis Banks and The American Indian Movement
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LOL
So now you're with the CIA? And the FBI? How are the Lizard People doing?
All these posts look to have come not from Royce or any NDN person but solely from Lydia Hersloff. The admins can see that the IP is registered in her name. This includes the posts from "Royce" where "Royce" claimed he was at Pine Ridge.
Only a total idiot believes that not wanting paranoid, delusional, confused and confusing, unsubstantiated rantings posted on a forum means that the forum owners and members are somehow in league with the confused persons enemies. If Lydia actually read the forum, she'd know that we already have threads on some of the people she things we should "investigate." Actually, we had warned people about them back when she was promoting these people and vouching for them.
We are not here to help paranoid, aggressive people sort out their personal vendettas. Lydia's insinuations that she's involved with the CIA and the Feds, though probably only in her own imagination, are still pretty serious claims to throw around on an activist forum. That stuff's not funny and in itself should be a banning offense, especially as it comes with threats. Even though her threats are ridiculous and will come to nothing, it's a severe drain on people's time, energy and sanity to have to deal with this display.
The CIA shill center finally checks the IP addresses you insisted you could not above and can assure us of Jaonn's whereabout's over a 4 year period - the roaming meth addict. You apparently don't like The American Indian Movement. We don't like you either. The American Indian Movement hereby denounces Joann Spotted Bear and we will have a formal Cease and Desist Order addressing all of you: Joann Spotted Bear, Al Carrol with your male milehighsalute who you share 'similar places' with and is therefore credible to you - right on the list with Kevin Annett, Gray Wolf, Jim Craven and Don Eagle Cruz. We alone reserve the right to declare frauds, which is the lot of you. You keep on doing what you do...hating Indigenous Peoples. We'll keep doing what we do, fighting the Washichu and his wickedness. We are the Resistance.
Royce White Calf
Akicita Waziyata Ptehinsilaska
and on behalf of Dennis Banks and The American Indian Movement
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I read "The CIA shill center" as the Royce White Calf description of us, NAFPS. Sounds like we all are being accused of being CIA shills.
So confusing.
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Ah, I see what you're saying, Piff. Well, that's an absurd and baseless accusation on her part, and something not be thrown around at people if you expect to be taken seriously. It's gaslighting, as well, as that's not at all what anyone said.
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milehighsalute is NOT Joann Spotted Bear!!! Dunno what we have to do or say to prove that to you. How dare you accuse us of being CIA shills!!!
I suggest you cease and desist your false accusations!
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how the hell this person gonna say they were there when joanne ALLEGEDLY (and was CLEARED) robbed jimi mcnair.........and then claim they don't know that Ethiopian punk eliase graywolf
he was the FIRST one to run to the cops
in fact with all his tough talk of "revolution" and claiming how badass he is he always threaten people with cops and first to call them
AGAIN...
I posted a few conversations, and posts relating to Lydia, who I don't know (and probably don't want to) that were all stories from the Ethiopian fraud ELIASE GRAYWOLF.......and AGAIN as I said......take it up with him
I saw her name mentioned here so I posted about what I heard of her through stupid eliase and how he was BRAGGINg about his stupid plot "on behalf of the Lakota people" and claimed he had "big people" involved including your heroes in AIM
and who cares anyways this aint the 70s....while I respect AIM's message and many of the people in AIM........there are many that I don't, and that includes the ones everyone namedrops and are the well known ones......my family has a history with AIM that you don't wanna go there with me
and if it really came down to it......i'll slap em all.......im a grown man.....they don't scare me.....