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Title: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on April 25, 2012, 04:13:15 pm
Read Debbie Reese's post on Queen Chief Warhorse: http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2012/04/queen-chief-warhorse-tchufuncta-nation.html (http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2012/04/queen-chief-warhorse-tchufuncta-nation.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_2p6OMXoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_2p6OMXoA)

Queen Chief Elwin Warhorse Gillium of Tchefuncta Nation  http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-press-news/2011/01/indian_queen_warhorse_speaks_a.html (http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-press-news/2011/01/indian_queen_warhorse_speaks_a.html)

http://www.examiner.com/article/chahta-indians-coming-out-of-exile (http://www.examiner.com/article/chahta-indians-coming-out-of-exile)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: educatedindian on April 25, 2012, 04:53:15 pm
At one point they were called the St Tammany Chahta.

This groups says they are a branch of the Choctaw left behind during the Trail of Tears, also to have been a nation of Black/NDN mixedbloods in Florida. It may be some have NDN ancestry, wouldn't be unusual.

But it doesn't help their case when they dress up as Mardi Gras Indians. In fact they seem to have been a Mardi Gras group as recently as this February.
http://www.examiner.com/article/mardi-gras-parade-schedule-new-orleans-surrounding-areas

One of the links says they have 100 members. They also have a website still under construction.

One of the Neville Bros is their "ambassador."
http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2009/10/cyril_neville_named_ambassador.html
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on April 25, 2012, 11:55:45 pm
http://www.nola.com/community/st-tammany/index.ssf/2011/05/chahta_tribes_work_for_2010_ce.html (http://www.nola.com/community/st-tammany/index.ssf/2011/05/chahta_tribes_work_for_2010_ce.html)
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Members of the Tchefuncta Nation, made up of the descendents of 125 families of Chahta, Cherokee and Creek ancestry

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Still, “All my Indians were not counted,” she said. “We lost people. Those who call themselves Creole, or multiple races, it divides people and all those get counted in the ‘other’ category,” on the census, rather than as American Indians, she said.

“But, the census bureau did all they could,” Gillum said. What changed this count, is that the U.S. Census Bureau allowed people to identify themselves and really count the Indian nations, she said. American Indians could claim who they are, as well as record their tribal affiliation.

The Tchefuncta Nation was provided a three-digit code for its members to use on the census forms. This will allow them to track the count of members who reside in about 30 states. Only people who had their paperwork in order and confirmed their affiliation with the tribe, were given the code.


This article reads like a sales pitch for the group.

Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: amorYcohetes on April 26, 2012, 03:44:46 am
Ha! I follow Racialicious (https://twitter.com/#!/racialicious) on Twitter and was just tonight tracing back the surprisingly comprehensive, impromptu Twitter Teach-In that unfolded as Racialicious live-tweeted (https://twitter.com/#!/racialicious/status/194936623115403264) the Kellog Foundation's "America Healing" (http://www.wkkf.org/what-we-support/racial-equity/america-healing.aspx) conference under the hashtag #racialequity.  It seems to actually have been a non-attendee, the Blackfeet/Suquamish author-attorney Gyasi Ross (https://twitter.com/#!/BigIndianGyasi) (who has been mentioned on these boards (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3633.0) for his new book Don't Know Much About Indians, But I Wrote A Book About Us Anyways (http://www.dkmai.com/about-dkmai/)) who first sounded the alarm (https://twitter.com/#!/BigIndianGyasi/status/194932487955283968).  Looks like the upshot is he was invited to and accepted the offer to write an article for their blog (http://www.racialicious.com/).  Can't wait!
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on April 26, 2012, 04:27:28 pm
I've been following some of the #racialequity conference twitter stream now too. I watched more Queen Chief Warhorse videos last night also. Really look forward to Gyasi Ross's article.

I think Queen Chief Warhorse is playing Indian and encouraging others to do so also. Included in that playing Indian is merging Mardi Gras Indians festival activities with "we are an actual historical tribe". If I was her publicist I'd encourage her to dress differently at conference type events - she has a pseudo multi-tribal thing going on and it sets off red flags for some viewers.

Personally I think she might have a sort of personality cult in the making. People who are feeling lost can be told that they've been found by their tribe. She works for tight group unity and is dismissive about some other actual tribes.

I'm all for people researching their genealogy and the history of a place. I think Ms. Elwin Gillum could start a heritage community group that doesn't claim to be a current tribe. She and others could be role models for people of distant Indian ancestry on how to research their genealogy and on how to then not misuse that information.

I can see how fake tribes can be really appealing to folks. We are told that we've been found by our long lost tribe, that our sense of rootlessness and lostness has a cure, that we now have a firm foundation to stand on and an answer to all our questions.

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The Tchefuncta Nation is made up of different tribes, bands and clans with members concentrated along the Gulf of Mexico from Texas to Florida. Members are descendent of those who did not move onto reservations in Oklahoma under the Dancing Rabbit Creek Treaty of 1830 and who escaped what came to be known as the Trail of Tears.

White House pays Tchefuncta Nation visit in its 'White House' http://www.nola.com/community/st-tammany/index.ssf/2011/11/white_house_pays_tchefuncta_na.html (http://www.nola.com/community/st-tammany/index.ssf/2011/11/white_house_pays_tchefuncta_na.html)

Tchefuncta Nation, Chahta Indian Tribe http://qmsinc.biz/?p=174 (http://qmsinc.biz/?p=174)

Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Cat on April 26, 2012, 05:25:48 pm
First off Tchufuncta is a made up word... it is not a Chahta (choctaw) word. They are not a recognized group by CNO or Mississippi Chahta , and they wont be recognized. She isn't even wearing any sort of Choctaw clothing..why is she wearing a plains style dress and beadwork. The only thing she got right was the word Chahta. I think that sums it up.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: tecpaocelotl on April 27, 2012, 05:39:41 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_2p6OMXoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_2p6OMXoA)


Video has been removed.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on April 27, 2012, 06:46:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfam8m_fnV0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfam8m_fnV0) Most recent video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1962382774297432798 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1962382774297432798) Start about 15:15 - If I'm understanding her correctly she states her nation is superior to the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEULLKbUZ1o&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEULLKbUZ1o&feature=relmfu) 8:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkPpHGJcDeE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkPpHGJcDeE) 3:44 Mention of how when applying for recovery funds Queen Chief Warhorse had a complete database on all members, including their social security numbers

My concerns are about the possibility that this is a potential personality cult, drawing vulnerable people who have gone through Katrina and who seek community.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on April 29, 2012, 04:26:56 am
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Elwin Green Gillum...and a total of 825 family members crossed over on the 2000 census from being designated as African-American to Native
American. 'It was like winning the lottery,' she said of the 0.4 percent they represented in the St. Tammany statistics. 'For the first time in 100 years we could be what our family fought and struggled so we could be.' 'We are one family, many colors,' Gillum said of her family, the descendants of Cherokee Andrew Green who was born in Georgia and died at the age of 100 in St. Tammany. The Green descendants began meeting as the St. Tammany Native American Tribe of the Florida Parishes on Oct. 12, 1998, to discuss the issue of the upcoming census. 'We kept our business to ourselves, we met as a family, it was not a public campaign,' she said, 'For nights we met, young and old, filled out the census and told stories.' While the nucleus of the family is known to them, they are now trying to reach the cousins and more distant family members to gather documentation for a tribal roll.

An American Indian Heritage Is Reclaimed," Sharon Sharpe, The Times-Picayune (New Orleans), May 5, 2002, 1. Copyright 2002 The
Times-Picayune Publishing Company.

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-amindian&month=0205&week=a&msg=H4/6dm1FG9JMOJlDHhWEQg&user=&pw= (http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-amindian&month=0205&week=a&msg=H4/6dm1FG9JMOJlDHhWEQg&user=&pw=)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 02, 2012, 03:20:36 pm
Don’t Know Much About Indians (but i let non-indians speak for them anyways) [Point] http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 03, 2012, 09:57:35 pm
Debbie Reese http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/ (http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/) brings our attention to the 3 minute mark of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 03, 2012, 10:08:57 pm
And here's the direct link to Debbie Reese's blog about it http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2012/05/is-queen-chief-warhorse-native-and-who.html
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 03, 2012, 10:12:19 pm
If I'm following Queen Chief Warhorse right in that video: she says Choctaw stole her group's identity, copied her group, and that Choctaw aren't really Native Americans. And that Choctaw of Oklahoma are ripping the government off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXWRx_2zKM&feature=relmfu)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 03, 2012, 10:18:52 pm
Add into this discussion mix a great comment by Gyasi Ross

http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/#comment-517947709 (http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/#comment-517947709)

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Thank you, Dr--that's a very fair and important question.  Ultimately, the question should be "What, prophylacticly, should the Kellogg Foundation and Racialicious have done, and in the future, what should they do to ensure that they do not get hucksters pretending to be Native speaking for Native people?"
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 03, 2012, 11:36:50 pm
The Examiner article says her given name is Elwin Green Gillum. If that is correct, I think we should add it to the title of this thread.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 04, 2012, 04:19:38 pm
That is her name - Elwin Green birth name, Gillum married.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Epiphany on May 04, 2012, 07:09:27 pm
A collection of links to help with research & fact checking:

Unfinished web site:http://tchefunctanation.org/ (http://tchefunctanation.org/)

Domain Name:TCHEFUNCTANATION.ORG
Created On:01-Mar-2012 19:01:23 UTC
Last Updated On:01-May-2012 03:50:58 UTC
Expiration Date:01-Mar-2013 19:01:23 UTC

Admin Name:Elwin Gillum
Admin Organization:Chahta Tribe
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Ms Gillum refers in videos to her work with Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
She is listed as one of several honorary members:

Chief Elwin Gillum
Little Rock, Arkansas
http://sclctoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=9 (http://sclctoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=9)

She's done civil rights work with them at least as far back as 1997 http://policecrimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=180 (http://policecrimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=180)
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Save The St Tammany Chahta Tribe in Slidell, LA is a private company which is listed under community affairs and services. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $310,000 and employs a staff of 6.

http://www.manta.com/g/mw2fhwq/elwin-gillum (http://www.manta.com/g/mw2fhwq/elwin-gillum)
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described as "revered Chief of the Chahta Indians" 2010 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/georgianne-nienaber/cyril-neville-joins-voice_b_582832.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/georgianne-nienaber/cyril-neville-joins-voice_b_582832.html)
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... serves as a true Voice of the Peoples of the Wetlands; Queen/Chief Elwin Warhorse Gillum. You can Google her name and be enlightened about many things that have yet to make it to press.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/georgianne-nienaber/cyril-neville-joins-voice_b_582832.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/georgianne-nienaber/cyril-neville-joins-voice_b_582832.html)
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According to Chief Warhorse Elwin Gillum of the Tchefuncta tribe, "It's not an issue of illiteracy. It's not because my people cannot read. It's because BP has structured the rules so that no one can qualify as a fisherman."

BP’s Gulf Oil Spill: Are Native Americans a “forgotten people?” http://www.alevelbeyond.com/oilclaims/blogs/bp%E2%80%99s-gulf-oil-spill-are-native-americans-%E2%80%9Cforgotten-people%E2%80%9D (http://www.alevelbeyond.com/oilclaims/blogs/bp%E2%80%99s-gulf-oil-spill-are-native-americans-%E2%80%9Cforgotten-people%E2%80%9D)
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Past business company: LABAYOU RECORDS INC. http://www.bizapedia.com/la/LABAYOU-RECORDS-INC.html (http://www.bizapedia.com/la/LABAYOU-RECORDS-INC.html)
   

Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on May 04, 2012, 08:48:12 pm
Search results on SAVE THE ST TAMMANY PARISH CHAHTA TRIBE via http://www.guidestar.org/ (http://www.guidestar.org/)
Category: P60 (Emergency Assistance (Food, Clothing, Cash))
EXEMPT STATUS REVOKED ( details )
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This organization's exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years. Further investigation and due diligence is warranted.
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Secretary of State Louisana http://www.sos.la.gov/tabid/819/default.aspx (http://www.sos.la.gov/tabid/819/default.aspx)
Business:    SAVE THE ST. TAMMANY CHAHTA TRIBE
Charter Number:    35772407 N
Registration Date:    9/2/2004
Status:    Active
Annual Report Status:    In Good Standing
File Date:    9/2/2004
Last Report Filed:    2/3/2012
Type:    Non-Profit Corporation
Agent:    ELWIN GILLUM
Officer:    PERCY C. GILLUM Title:    Director
Officer:    BERNADETTE JOHNSON Title:    Director
Officer:    NOREEN DEBLANC Title:    Director

Several inactive non profits listed with Elwin G Gillum as director, including “R.E.A.C.H. RECREATIONAL EDUCATIONAL APPREHENSIBLE COMMUNITY HEALING CORP.”

Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on May 27, 2012, 10:56:07 pm
Just found this: Chief Warhorse Online Tee-Pee for Society Chiefs http://64.38.12.138/boardx/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32089 (http://64.38.12.138/boardx/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32089) 2008

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Oh yeah! we know who they are, they tried using their situation in LA to gather donations here in arkansas so they could buy their own community as Indians. The LR news kept putting them out there w/ a picture of an actual indian...seems the news quit doing it after we brought to their attention what they were encouraging by misrepresenting who these people are.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on May 27, 2012, 11:07:03 pm
From archived web page Feb 21 2003 http://web.archive.org/web/20030221164930/http://members.aol.com/chiefwarhorse/myhomepage/club.html?mtbrand=AOL_US (http://web.archive.org/web/20030221164930/http://members.aol.com/chiefwarhorse/myhomepage/club.html?mtbrand=AOL_US)

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Welcome to Chief  Warhorse
Tee-Pee  Online

My Online Tee-Pee for Society Chief's

We were Indians then, and we are Indians Now!
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The St. Tammany Parish Native American Tribe, descendents of a mixture of Cherokee, Creek, Chahta, “Choctaw”, an important tribe or confederacy of Muskogean stock, formerly holding most of Southern Alabama and Mississippi, with adjoining portion of Louisiana.

The Chahta Indian was Pioneers of the old Florida Parishes, they were formerly connected with the Chickasaw and crossed the Mississippi together from the West, Their first appearance in history was in 1550, when De Soto’s march in what was perhaps the most terrible Indian battle ever fought in Eastern United States.

They made their first treaty with the United States in 1786, since which time they have never been at war with the Government, and was documented by: Abbe Rouquette in Bayou Lacombe in 1845-1887.

The Chahta Indians of St. Tammany Parish, have been historically documented, as Bayou Bonfouca Choctaw, Bayou Lacombe Choctaw, Northshore of Ponchartrain Choctaw and St. Tammany Choctaw and the Florida Parishes Choctaw, all still the same Indians, and many of these settlement are present today.

It is documented that the Ducre’s of Bayou Lacombe, is the last of the Bayou Lacombe Chahta’s, the inventors of fi’le, used in today’s Creole and Cajun gumbo.

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CHAHTA POWER

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About Chief Warhorse

I have been A leader in St.Tammany Parish for Human Rights for over half of my life, which is 20 plus years.

For the Past 5 years I have been fighting for the rights of my tribe as Chief, still holding my seat as President of the St. Tammany Parish SCLC and now holding a National seat as National Board Member for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference "SCLC"; founding President Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, founding Board Member, Rev. Avery C. Alexander of New Orleans.

One thing I have learn is that you only get that which you fight for, or the squeaking Wheel gets the grease.

As an Indian I have to fight to get the right just to be "Indian", you can be what ever race you please but not Indian.


Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 30, 2012, 05:46:08 pm
A lot of what Gillum and her group are saying is also discussed in threads we have on related groups:

Discussion of Gillum's claim that Africans are the real NDNs, and that NDNs are actually "Chinese" (or something) and "perpetrating" on the lands in the US: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0

Compare Gillum's statements with the platforms and writings of these groups:

"Yamassee Nation"  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3706
Yamassee "tribe" in trouble with IRS  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Searching the forum will bring up many threads on the Nuwaubians. Here are two:
United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles With Leader Jailed  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0   
Former Nuwaubian Writes Expose  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=432.0
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on May 31, 2012, 08:07:04 pm
A lot of what Gillum and her group are saying is also discussed in threads we have on related groups:

Discussion of Gillum's claim that Africans are the real NDNs, and that NDNs are actually "Chinese" (or something) and "perpetrating" on the lands in the US: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0

Compare Gillum's statements with the platforms and writings of these groups:

"Yamassee Nation"  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3706
Yamassee "tribe" in trouble with IRS  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=590.0
Searching the forum will bring up many threads on the Nuwaubians. Here are two:
United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors: Georgia Sect Dwindles With Leader Jailed  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=19.0   
Former Nuwaubian Writes Expose  http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=432.0

This explains so much! Thank you for making this connection clear.

Looks like Gillum is following the playbook of Empress Verdiacee "Tiari" Washitaw-Turner Goston El-Bey http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/1999/spring/born-on-the-bayou?page=0,0 (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/1999/spring/born-on-the-bayou?page=0,0) and related groups.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on May 31, 2012, 09:28:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ljFSvqEZUA&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ljFSvqEZUA&feature=relmfu)

Interesting bit here said by Ms. Gillum /Chief Warhorse, early in video about 0:10 mark paraphrased:

"Another thing I'm fighting for is that we as a nation have a place of governing that is represented and recognized by the United States goverment.

They say well that's federal recognition.

And I say no that's not. That is a god given right A god given right."
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on June 06, 2012, 03:37:11 am
Gillum and group refer to the "Jim Ducre clan" often as a claim to NDN heritage. Gillum also says that they don't have any French heritage. http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.ducre/39/mb.ashx (http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.ducre/39/mb.ashx)

It is possible to piece together the genealogy of the man they are referring to. There is French heritage from the 1700s. That heritage was even discussed in a 1938 Louisiana court case Sunseri v. Cassagne- the case is directly related to this Ducre family lineage.

Gillum makes quite a few genealogy claims that can sound legit but with some research are found to not hold up at all. I think she has an audience who wants to be NDN and so they buy what she tells them.

As for her historical claims of being a tribe, some of what she says sounds like it is her own spin on http://www.unitedhoumanation.org/node/12 (http://www.unitedhoumanation.org/node/12)

This combined with what Kathryn identified earlier in this thread as related groups who claim Africans were the real NDNs - hopefully will help people think twice before joining Gillum's group. Or giving them money. Or buying everything they say without doing any research.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on June 08, 2012, 05:11:39 pm
Quality Management Services Inc does program and grant management for them: http://qmsinc.biz/?p=174 (http://qmsinc.biz/?p=174)

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Tchefuncta Nation, Chahta Indian Tribe

Provides grant proposal writing and management assistance to the Tchefuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe. Queen Chief Warhorse, the Queen of the Nation and Chief of the Chahta Tribe has numerous programs (i.e. education, agriculture, disaster preparedness, economic development, health to name a few) that benefit not only the tribe but the local community as well. The Tribe works closely with local, state and federal agencies to implement, monitor and facilitate the flow of information and ensure that assistance and technical support get to the people and communities that need it.  QMS provides grant and program management in support of various tribal programs located in Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas.

The American Chahta Indians have a rich history and culture dating back thousands of years in the southeast region of the country.  As in ancient times, the Chahta focus on agriculture, fishing, hunting and most recently solar technology and green projects.  Grant emphasis surround these key areas with the Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Department of Interior, Center for Disease Control, as well as the State of Louisiana.  Another key emphasis of programming surrounds youth and cultural awareness and preservation of the rich traditions of the tribe with the next generation.

For more information on the Tribe contact QMS at (985) 649-2603.

ST. TAMMANY NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE OF THE OLD FLORIDA TERRITORY registered Arkansas http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=286386&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=Gillum&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=&cmd= (http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=286386&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=Gillum&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=&cmd=)

Gillum's group has plans for a subdivision in Little Rock Arkansas named Chahta Yakni Falama http://www.littlerock.org/BoardOfDirectors/MeetingAgendas/Agendas/2007%20-%20Agenda%20-%2001-16-07/BC%20-%20HWY365-ChahtaYakni%20Deferral%2012-11-06.pdf (http://www.littlerock.org/BoardOfDirectors/MeetingAgendas/Agendas/2007%20-%20Agenda%20-%2001-16-07/BC%20-%20HWY365-ChahtaYakni%20Deferral%2012-11-06.pdf)


Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: educatedindian on June 08, 2012, 10:38:46 pm
If they were awarded a minority grant or contract, they are Black community org passing itself off as a Native tribe. At the very least the state should not be posting inaccurate information that legitimizes their nonsense claim.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on September 27, 2013, 06:10:27 pm
She still is posing as tribal chief of the Chahta tribe.

http://theadvocate.com/news/6896191-123/small-communitys-hope-for-sewer (http://theadvocate.com/news/6896191-123/small-communitys-hope-for-sewer)
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Epiphany on October 29, 2013, 03:32:21 pm
Oct 20, 2013 event in New Orleans:

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Queen Chief Warhorse of the Tchefuncta Nation Chahta Tribe, whose community is just north of New Orleans, came to speak about the discrimination they have faced historically and still face today.
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe" Elwin Green Gillum
Post by: Piff on January 13, 2019, 10:06:38 pm
Currently in Arkansas:

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Corporation Name    SAVE THE ST. TAMMANY CHAHTA TRIBE
Fictitious Names    
Filing #    800087067
Filing Type    Nonprofit Corporation
Filed under Act    Dom Nonprofit Corp; 1147 of 1993
Status    Good Standing
Principal Address    3221 BARROW RD STE B
LITTLE ROCK, AR 72204
Reg. Agent    ORVILLE ABRAMS JR
Agent Address    3221 BARROW RD STE B

LITTLE ROCK, AR 72204
Date Filed    06/15/2006
Officers    CHIEF ELWIN "WARHORSE" GILLUM, Incorporator/Organizer
BERNADETTE JOHNSON , Principal
BERNADETTE JOHNSON , Director
PERCY C. GILLUM , Principal
PERCY C. GILLUM , Director
NOREEN DEBLANC , Principal
NOREEN DEBLANC , Director
ORVILLE ABRAMS , Treasurer

(search https://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_all.php )

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Corporation Name    ST. TAMMANY NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE OF THE OLD FLORIDA TERRITORY
Fictitious Names    
Filing #    800087047
Filing Type    Nonprofit Corporation
Filed under Act    Dom Nonprofit Corp; 1147 of 1993
Status    Good Standing
Principal Address    
Reg. Agent    CHIEF ELWIN "WARHORSE" GILLUM
Agent Address    3600 SPRINGER BLVD., APT. 221

LITTLE ROCK, AR 72206
Date Filed    06/15/2006
Officers    CHIEF ELWIN "WARHORSE" GILLUM, Incorporator/Organizer
Title: Re: "Queen Chief Warhorse, Tchufuncta Nation, Chahta Tribe"
Post by: Sparks on October 11, 2022, 01:12:26 am
Add into this discussion mix a great comment by Gyasi Ross
http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2012/05/02/dont-know-much-about-indians-but-i-let-non-indians-speak-for-them-anyways-point/#comment-517947709)

The site is gone, but the text is preserved in the first post in this thread:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3691.0 [Don't Know Much About Indians]