Statement from Zoi Lightfoot - Director of Legal Affairs Treaty House UK

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As I've been reading the comments made by Zoi, Linda Lou, and Liz on the Salford Sioux Facebook, I can't help but notice the disparaging remarks they all have made about NAFPS. There was a time, not too long ago, when they appreciated this forum and everything we do here.

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Firstly,sites like NAPFS are to be applauded,they are a valuable resource to people like
me who work at legislature level in the international community.There was a time not long
ago when spokespeoples,representatives and even Bands were crippling themselves
financialy just to chase one huxster down and out of their territories.As I am sure educated
indian and many NAPFS members can also confirm.

Understand me here as long as we have the international embassies of the Canadian Parliament
and the US Federal Gov, supplying europeon schools with their homogenized version of 'Indian
history' and employ white twinkies to dress up and play tourist traditional for them at official functions
Then parasites who leech the life out of our nations will always exist.

And folks like me will always need to bounce enquiries about hinkey people off of the members at
NAPFS.We've come a long way in the last 515yrs,we don't stand on hills burning our blankets trying
to get word out (although the moccassin telegraph can never be beaten in terms of plan B)We are
doing something about the various situations placed before us.

Albert Pine once said,"Do something for yourself and it dies with you,Do something for the people
and the deed becomes immortal".

Hi Ari
while i take on board your comments,it would be worth reminding ourselves that a majority of NAPFS members belong to/or co ordinate active groups in their own right.You only have to wade through the extensive NAPFS archives to grasp how effective and co ordinated they all are in their own right and as NAPFS members,internationaly.
Back to the thread topic,I personaly thank Al and the NAPFS founders for biting the proverbial bullet and taking this one on at a time when representative could not move for twinkies of all races getting in the way and seriously enflaming a very emotive issue ammongst Indian peoples of all Nations.

Congratulations to Educated Indian,Barnaby and all who write on here. I have belonged to this site now for some years and have seen the lengths to which some people will go to discredit this site and the people on here,all because those who are doing the attacking(nuagers/frauds) are afraid of their sometimes sizable incomes are reduced significantly when exposed. It is only through this site and the many more out there who support the work done on here that we are able to get to grips with the exploiters.

Thanks to you all!

Linda Lou 

PS:I heard that Sonne Raynor is in Europe again..anyone got any news?

Guess attitudes and opinions change when the questions are being asked of you and you have something to hide. Think we've seen this happen with more than this bunch.

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Elizabeth wrote at 6:40pm
"Michelle" AKA Bonita Lou Singleton, I honestly have no clue why you continue to cut and paste our posts from THIS SITE to NAFPS. Are you deliberately trying to confuse us about which site we are posting on or are you the one who is confused? Since it's clear you ain't gonna win the Native American Entertainer of the Year Award, are you looking for kudos from Burrito Boy and/or Porky? Dayum. Talk about people grasping for straws..... The only vote you and your NAFPS pals will get from me is a vote of sympathy.

I have to wonder why you keep coming to NAFPS reading my posts, and respond to them on the Salford Sioux Facebook. Why don't you reply right here? We're both members of NAFPS; I'm not a member of Facebook. As much as y'all would like for Michelle to be me, it just ain't so.

Y'all still don't have my full name right either, even though I've posted it on more than one occasion.

Liz, your white privilege is showing. You might really want to try and keep your racism in check.

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Elizabeth wrote at 7:20pm
"Michelle" AKA Bonita Lou Singleton, please make an appointment with an eye doctor so you can have your eyes checked. My picture is here for the world to see. Do I really look like a white privileged person to you? And stop accusing me of being racist. My reference to your being nominated for the Native American Entertainer of the Year Award was not a disparaging remark against Natives. You and your pals at NAFPS have been entertaining us for years now or have you not? Or have you made the assumption I have something against burritos? I love em.. especially with lots of medium taco sauce and loads of sour cream.

No comment necessary, but going to anyway. Calling someone "Burrito Boy" is racist. Is this how you really feel about people of color?   

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Linda wrote at 9:44am on May 5th, 2009

And I am afraid having done further investigations on "Michelle" who also goes under various other alias's such as Moma Porcupine who is also Trisha Rose Jacobs is a member of that site who like to proprogate slanderous materials without giving the whole truth

(con...)

That whole discussion over there is so bizarre I don't know what to say except Trisha Rose Jacobs isn't me. I'm not Michelle and don't post on sites like facebook . And I'm not Bonnie.

But I would be really interested to see an explanation of whatever it is that was posted here that Linda feels left out important information , and therefore gave a wrong impression. I'd still like to hear how Linda Lou thinks she is the blood niece of Grand Chief Ben Sylliboy - or an explanation of which of her Grandparents / greatgrandparents were Mi'kmaq and how she knows this. I'd like to see an explanation of why the genealogical information she herself appears to have put online points to nothing but English ancestry on her Mom's side.   If this is a misunderstanding why not take this opprotunity to clear things up ?

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I should add that I can confirm Momma P is not Trish Jacobs. Their ISPs aren't even on the same continent. Trish has been studying over in Europe since the beginning of NAFPS. She is not even a member of the forum anymore due to time constraints on her as a grad student.

And saying Texas is not Indian Country? There's more NDNs in the state than in most of the other 50 states, or provinces in Canada. I think Dallas has the 4th biggest urban NDN population in the country, 40,000 or more. San Antonio about 20,000.

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Linda wrote at 1:59am

LMBO....I fink "Michelle" aka Bonita has had a taste of the sour cream and she dont like
it..rofllllllll I too love burritos..it's the fake tex mex I dont like..LMAO

   
Linda wrote at 2:14am

Now,....why would any of us want to give our geneology to a group like NAPFS who in themselves cannot prove where their bloodlines come from..hmmmm?..wouldnt you say that what is  sauce for the goose etc?..and why would we expose our families in public to a bunch of nasty minded  individuals who believe they have every right to be the cyber cops of people of the nations?... hey..you guys at NAPFS banned me for saying such a thing about Moma P requesting my and others family details when this Moma P refused to divulged who she is....when moma p does this and the rest of you can prove where your blood comes from I might think about it then.Until then..hasta la vista babies

People who keep their personal information private and don't use claims about who they are to gain public trust don't have any private information the public needs to verify. If I claimed to be the niece or cousin of a deeply respected Native leader or the Consular Director of a supposed consular facility , it would be fair to expect me to provide a way to verify my own identity. The point is I'm not making any claims about myself that might wrongly gain public trust. Linda Lou is. She has also ALREADY put her family information on line, in detail and this information shows her Mom was of English descent.

It isn't unreasonable to wonder why her Mom's genealogy doesn't match up with Linda Lou's claims she was Mi'kmaq.


Zoi wrote at 3:56am

Ok let sort some things out here shall we,as we are aware Bonnie is cutting and pasting to the other site anyways,understand this Ms Singleton.

1) The Admin of this site is the very same duley elected Salford Councilperson,Linda Lou and myself have spent the last year in discussion with.Not the saleried staff person you spoke with (no disrespect to her intended and i hope Liz takes it that way as this is getting old and stale)

2) We also met the duley elected leader of said council

3) We have all said paperwork pertaining to that,what its about and WHO exactly would or would not be envolved and why.

4)This gathering is about promoting the Sovereign Nations on THIER terms,not mine,Treaty Houses Salfords or NAFPS.

5) Its about showcasing not only Indian culutures past and present,but promoting tourismn,music,film and industry as is,owned and operated BY the Indian Nations.Not me Treaty House.

   
Zoi wrote at 4:08am

6)Its about much needed International scholorships for Indian students.

7)Its about bringing the entire cast of My Lifes a Sundance to Salford.(and yes i have spoken with folks like Joanne since you posted on NAFPS,(I beleive a thread was started on her too since then in NAFPS)

its about staffing it with the existing and established SGs,some of whom now ignore you due to your trolling and disruptive ways.

9)Funding for that is to be negotiated in the business sector,with the city council itself,right in the middle of an International recession.Thats does not have a time table.

10) Is there any finance gain for Treaty House,absolutely not,Treaty House is a facility it answers only to those peoples to whom it belong as do i.

   
Elizabeth wrote at 6:49am

I apologise to the admins of this site and to its readers for the antics of the folks from NAFPS and for my responses. I should not have taken the bait from these notorious trolls and truth twisters. Here are two examples of websites run by NAFPS members solely for the purpose to defaming Native Americans:

http://DavudYeagley.org registered to Al Carroll
http://BadEagle.org registered to Brent Michael Davids

Please view these websites and draw your own conclusions about the lengths to which these folks will go in order to slander and defame other human beings.

I agree 100% with what Zoi and Linda have said and will add my own comments. Bonnie L. Singleton, Al Carroll and Moma Porcupine need to make their genealogy and enrollment cards available for public viewing. NAFPS also needs to make public any and all documents granting them the authority to determine who is and who isn't Native and the right to label individuals as frauds.

Unbelievable ... In order to understand how ignorant these so called 'representives of American Indian people" are people in the Salford Council might want to check out some of the stuff David Yeagley says ... in order to understand why so many Native people find this guy objectionable

Below are some examples of Yeagley's ideas

http://web.archive.org/web/20041030225328/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=273
FrontPageMagazine.com 2/26/2002

By David Yeagley

"Superior beauty is in the white race, with its scintillating varieties of color: red, brown, amber, golden hair... green, blue, light brown, gray eyes. In the darker races, everything is always the same, dark brown and black a beastly bore."

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"These days the white woman is expected to humble herself before the darkie
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"But Hitler was wrong in Mein Kamf (1925), when he accuses the Jewish male of a racial plot. When "the black-haired Jewish youth" finds himself sexually attracted to the fair Aryan maiden, there is no "clear aim of ruining the hated white race" through intermarriage. The Jew himself would breed out, for he is a small minority.

But the masses of darker races don't fear extinction, because they are the vast majority. The white race is the world's minority.

Its Judeo-Christian religion allowed the European Caucasian race to advance above all other people; but the darker races now encroach through integration and intermarriage, in the name of equality and diversity.

Pat Buchanan says that there's something wrong with a race that doesn't care whether it exists or not. In his new book, The Death of The West, he refers to my article, "What's Up With White Women," in which I write about a white girl who has no pride in her race or its accomplishments.

There are dark people who look forward to the end of "whitey."

http://web.archive.org/web/20061231043631/http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/04/korean_actress.php
Yeagley
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"Mixed raced people can't help what they are. Their's is no fault. But there is no need to repeat the same, or to advocate more, or to idolize such a condition by perpetuating it. When you realize you're on a wrong path, even if you didn't put yourself on it, the only dignified thing to do is to get back on the right path."

Yeagley also has a reputation supporting groups who oppose Indian sovereignty.

http://web.archive.org/web/20051222183130/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13399

Yeagley
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"I was invited to speak to leaders of Citizens Equal Rights Alliance, United Property Owners, Upstate Citizens for Equality,and One Nation. These organizations represent over a quarter of a million Americans citizens who have personally lost money,property, business, and basic civil rights as the result of aggressions by the Indian casino industry. (Not to mention the income counties and states lose to tax-exempt "Indian" casino business.)"

Yeagley
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"It's their people that created America, not Indians. Only a diabolically self-righteous liberal politician would take America out of the hands that created it, and give it to those who either lost it, or never had anything to do with it."

http://web.archive.org/web/20061206094805/http://www.badeagle.com/html/arent_pales.html

David Yeagley
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"As a Comanche Indian, I'm sensitive to this history. I believe the conqueror has a right to what he has conquered. No one owns the land. Only he who is strong enough to possess it will control it and the people living on it. That's the law of war."

With friends like this who needs enemies?

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Linda wrote at 1:59am
LMBO....I fink "Michelle" aka Bonita has had a taste of the sour cream and she dont like it..rofllllllll I too love burritos..it's the fake tex mex I dont like..LMAO

Again with the racist jokes.

Linda wrote at 2:14am
Now,....why would any of us want to give our geneology to a group like NAPFS who in themselves cannot prove where their bloodlines come from..hmmmm????..wouldnt you say that what is sauce for the goose etc?..and why would we expose our families in public to a bunch of nasty minded individuals who believe they have every right to be the cyber cops of people of the nations?... hey..you guys at NAPFS banned me for saying such a thing about Moma P requesting my and others family details when this Moma P refused to divulged who she is....when moma p does this and the rest of you can prove where your blood comes from I might think about it then.Until then..hasta la vista babies!

First, no one has ever asked for your genealogy. No one cares whether you're Mi'kmaq, as you claim, or English, as you really are. It's the lying, the pretending, that matter. You and Zoi have set yourself up with fancy titles and a fake embassy. Truth is neither of you are enrolled, you don't represent the Mi'kmaq or Anishnabe, and Treaty House does not have the backing or support of any Native American Nation. Y'all are pretendians with a pretend embassy. Linda Lou, you are the one who has posted her genealogy all over the net, most of it while you were hunting for your birth parents. I feel sorry that you didn't know your mother and father. However, claiming to be a Scoop Kid, when you aren't even Indian, is disrespectful to all those children who were abducted by the system.

Now we're "a bunch of nasty minded individuals who believe they have every right to be the cyber cops of people of the nations"? That's not the way we look at our role here at NAFPS. At one time, neither did you. Refer to my Reply #139. As I said before, I guess attitudes and opinions change when the questions are being asked of you and you have something to hide.

If I remember correctly, you weren't banned for the questions you asked, but the way you asked them. I see you're as rude and obnoxious as ever. Some things never change.

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I agree that if Zoi and Linda and LIz were doing good things and gaining support on the real merits of what they are doing , their family background wouldn't be an issue.

This is why Sandra Kolar has never been brought up in this thread -even though she has been mentioned in relation to this Gathering and treaty House. She is doing what she's doing and people support what she is doing on it's own merits . She doesn't seem to be making any unverifiable and unlikely claims about her family background to gain this support.

As an anonymous person i don't expect people to take my word for the information I post and I don't expect people to believe I am so important and well connected in the native community they should just trust me. When I research stuff I always try to post my findings with links to independant sources of the facts and I ask common sense questions based on these facts. Even if i was an English teenager in the UK what I post would still be just as relevent and just as valid.   

Zoi wrote

4)This gathering is about promoting the Sovereign Nations on THIER terms,not mine,Treaty Houses Salfords or NAFPS.

Thats nice but what are the names of these so called "sovreign Nations" and what are the names of the people who are representing them and who have agreed to work with Treaty House ?

10) Is there any finance gain for Treaty House,absolutely not,Treaty House is a facility it answers only to those peoples to whom it belong as do i.

And what are the names of the people Treaty House belongs to? The only names I have seen who openly claim to be affiliated with Treaty House are Linda Lou Flewin, Zoi Lightfoot and Liz Roemer. If it belongs to someone else and you want the public to trust this organization, why isn't this information published and open to public scrutiny? Is something being hidden, and if so why?   

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Elizabeth wrote at 10:51am
For the record, I am no friend of Yeagley or Lekay although the folks at NAFPS have repeatedly accused us of working for/with them when they are having one of their paranoid moments. No doubt some Native Americans and some human beings are offended by some of the things these men write. However, no one has the right to register for, pay for, create and maintain a website specifically designed to slander and defame. That just doesn't seem like a normal reaction to me and it's a pretty sorry excuse for the behavior of the involved NAFPS members. Furthermore, David Yeagley has scanned in his birth certificate and has placed it online for the world to see. There is no question about his ethnicity. There are questions about the ethnicities and agendas of the folks at NAFPS.
Why doesn't NAFPS set the record straight and make this information public?

Liz, you just don't get it. It doesn't matter whether someone is enrolled, non-enrolled, a descendant, white, or black. What matters is being honest about it. Don't pretend to be someone or something you aren't. Don't pretend to be Indian when you aren't; don't pretend to be a diplomat when the Nation you claim to represent doesn't know you exist. Just be honest.

I don't care whether Yeagley is enrolled Comanche. It's not his ethnicity; it's his character. His high opinion of whites and his low opinion of all people of color speaks volumes about the person he is. Your defense of Yeagley, and his freedom to say whatever he wants without criticism, shouldn't wonder me too much. That's your white privilege showing again.

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However, hear me on this . . . Exposing frauds and scams like the one y'all are trying to pull with Treaty House is more worthwhile. We are not done; we are only just beginning.

Edit to add: Or, Zoi and Linda Lou could admit to living a lie for years, admit to what they're doing, cease any further misrepresentation of themselves, and apologize for their rude and disrespectful behavior. In which case, I'll let it go. It will only be done when these goals are accomplished.

i have not been posting for awhile, yet have been reading .. not sure what i could possibly post to most of the zoi et al BS .. .. it is all so laughable, and yet so sad too .. ..

i agree completely with your above post bls, especially the part i snipped .. and i would take that further to include some others as well .. .. leaving valid questions unanswered, vulgarly attacking those who are questioning, derailing, deflecting etc etc etc .. if they think these sort of tactics will "shut us all up" they are sadly mistaken .. we are done when the goals are achieved .. when the truth is told, whatever that truth might be .. .. .. ..

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Michelle wrote at 2:00am
I think you people who have been mentioned on the frauds site, should go there and try and explain your genuine. Why rant on here. I have just visited it again, and from what I see, you have not been able to defend yourselves. Answer these questions for me if you would.

1. Is Treaty House and official Embassy of Indian people
2. If so which tribes do you represent
3. Where does any funding come from/ and where does it go
4. Are you a charitable organisation or profit making

So many questions you have never answered.

I am just a person from Manchester who happened by chance to come across this fraud site and saw this mentioned on there. I am not an indian, I am english.

Look forward to hearing your responses

Linda Lou, I have your friend request and will accept it. All I want to know is what is the truth.

The same questions we've been asking for over a year.

Michelle wrote at 3:34am
Is this anyway to invite someone to be a friend. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.to prove yourself. Reckon this says it all about the type of person you are

Linda says, "SO.come on Michelle Henry..come and meet the many family and
friends I have..tell them I am a fraud and tell them Zoi is a fraud..what u
waiting for.tell my relatives,mi'kmaw,nakota/dakota an those on Burns Lake
Reserve I am not native..make my fuckinday!".

And the same rude attitude we've experienced every time a question was asked.
 

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Zoi wrote at 5:13am
Then i suggest you ask a duley elected Salford councillor for any answer thats concerns you,Treaty House is self funded,its funds do not come from donations or charity donations,yes it is a facility that works for the Nations,who is not realy your concern as its not you is it!.
Why do you assume ANY indian person would have to prove themselves to you or anyone else,we are not asking you for anything nor would we

"Treaty House is self funded,its funds do not come from donations or charity donations" . . . Then why do you ask for donations?

"yes it is a facility that works for the Nations" . . . Which Nations? As stated before, Indian Country doesn't know you. As Bill Means has said, you don't represent any Indian organization.

"Why do you assume ANY indian person would have to prove themselves to you or anyone else,we are not asking you for anything nor would we" . . . Any person setting up an embassy/organization and assuming the role of diplomat/legal advisor, regardless of ethnicity, would be expected to introduce themselves and give verifiable references. The fact that y'all have failed to provide even one legitimate reference makes everyone doubt your credibility. Any Indian would gladly give Nation, reservation, and family. It's the way things are done. Y'all have refused to do this. This fact alone says you are not Indian.

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Linda wrote at 5:30am
I have welcomed you as a friend Michelle Henry, you will be able to see who I am on my site.And I apologise for the language...we have too many people playing childish games with us as a whole with anonymous names..it gets very tiring in the end and I know of no other race who has to prove who they are and where they come from.

Why do Indians have to prove who they are and where they come from? Maybe because of all the wannabes and pretendians. Thing is, if you were really Indian, people would know who you are; they would know your family.

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Michelle wrote at 5:51am
Zoi, are you saying, that I should contact an elected Salford Councillor, for answers that I would like to know about your Treaty House. Should it not be indians from the nations you suppose to represent. A councillor can be hoodwinked, like anyone else.

Linda thank you for the appology. As for not knowing of another race who has to prove who they are, I would expect anyone who claims to be of a race and to represent that race, to be able to confirm, they are of that race.

Michelle wrote at 5:59am
Sorry I for got to add.

Zoi, you said you are not asking me for anything, so you have no need to prove anything. Well you are asking me for something.

You are asking for Support from Salford Council, which will include, the use of premises etc etc. I am a local resident and pay my COUNCIL TAX. I do not wish to see it used on something that is not legit.

I will be speaking with my local councillor shortly about this.

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Zoi wrote at 2:01am
Couple of things Its NOT "MY" Treaty House,Treaty House is a facility owned and funded directly by the peoples who DO use it.Second at no time to my knowledge has ANY Salford taxpayer been asked to pay for this,we are well aware of the situation in Salford,funding would have come from the international business sector (some Indian owned)A majority of those coming over had volenteered to come,paying thier own way,No staff on our side of things would be paid in any way for thier time etc.This expo has been on the cards for around ten years now,its about the Nations representing themselves on thier own terms and conditions.Treaty House is merely facilitating that process.
But what interests me more than ever now,is the realisation that every one of the three times this has been attempted,its not the Indian peoples who have undermined it.I also pay all local and national UK taxs whilst residing in the UK so I fail to see what the point of that comment is.