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Robert Lovelace
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Re: Robert Lovelace
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Offline Raven2

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Re: Robert Lovelace
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 09:02:44 pm »
yeh, exactly. sure i'll say i'm native, but i call myself mi'kmaq when people ask.
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Re: Robert Lovelace
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 01:22:55 am »
Moved to Research Needed.

A number of left groups and would be revolutionaries have written about him. Here's his own statement.
http://www.madaraka.com/North-America/118.html

AAFNA's statement of his adoption and background.
http://www.aafna.ca/family_council.html

Youtube of Phil Fontaine's statement about him and others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0JR_L1uYw

There's also related videos there.

Mohawk Nation News has a pretty strong statement against him. I included it below.

And Brenda Norrell's blog has a statement from MNN arguing the communities themselves are made up of "No Gonquins," whites with possibly a little ancestry.
http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2008/05/mohawk-nation-news-algonquins-land.html

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http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/a-list/2008-February/070213.html

FORK -TONGUED "SNAKE OIL SALESMAN"
ROBERT LOVELACE NEGOTIATING AT
SHARBOT LAKE 

MNN.  Feb. 11, 2008.  Does anyone know who "Robert Lovelace" is? 

He is supposedly an Ardoch Algonquin of Sharbot Lake, Ontario? 

He has been negotiating a uranium mine and a Haudenosaunee  land claim.  He's around 60 years of age, came to Canada in 1979  and claimed to be "Cherokee"!  R. R., a "Tsalagi", says he never heard of him. 

Robert Lovelace now claims to be an "Algonquin" because he was adopted by Harold Perry.  Perry says he's Algonquin too and has made millions pretending to sell Haudenosaunee land, even though he can't legally sell what isn't his.  None of the sales he conducted are valid.     

Robert Lovelace claimed to be a member of the "American Indian Movement" AIM.  Russell Means of the Lakota Nation, founder of AIM, says, "Who?  No Robert Lovelace was ever a member of AIM!" 

Lovelace also claims to be a U.S. draft dodger.  Didn't they get amnesty decades ago?  Come and get him!  He's here.  We don't want him.  He can go home now, wherever that is. 

Robert Lovelace, who could be non-native, is trying to negotiate away Haudenosaunee land south of the Ottawa River.  Why are the corporations of CANADA and ONTARIO getting him to sign away our land?  Lovelace will wear any hat than can fit his swollen head.  The following affidavit was served on Robert Lovelace.

"Affidavit of the Kahti'hontia:kwenio regarding Robert Lovelace

We Kahentinetha, Katenies, Karakwine and Iakoha'ko:wa, being Onkwehonwe Kanion'ke:haka, make this Affidavit and Notice of Claim of our free will based on our knowledge and responsibilities as Kahti'hontia:kwenio according to the
Kaianereh'ko:wa, the constitution of the Haudenosaunee.                                                         

To the attention of ROBERT LOVELACE of 1294 James Wilson Road, R.R. #1, Hardington, ONTARIO K0H 1W0 613-532-2166, of Haudenosaunee Territory is committing the following illegal acts that violate Haudenosaunee laws.  He has:

1.       disrespected the Kaianeeh'ko:wa which is the law of Haudenosaunee Territory on which he resides;

2.       falsely declared himself to be a member of the "Cherokee" Nation, while a Tsalagi member states that as far as he knows Mr. Lovelace is not Tsalagi;

3.       declared he was a member of the American Indian Movement, while Russell Means of AIM reported that Robert Lovelace was never a member;

4.   declared himself to be an "Algonquin", through a faulty adoption procedure, by Harold Perry, who may or may not be an Algonquin.  On Haudenosaunee Territory
one must meet the qualifications set out in the Kaianereh'ko:wa and Guswentha, which they do not; and   

5.   entered Haudenosaunee Territory to participate in a national conspiracy to  defraud the present and future generations of the Kanion'ke:haka; negotiated land, water and air rights in vicinity at 44 degrees 55 minutes 42 seconds north latitude and 76 degrees 55 minutes 36 seconds west longitude, including but not limited to land 100 square miles. Said land is Kanienke traditional and ancestral land to
Kanion'ke:haka. 

His betrayal has been brought before our fire and we have found that he is: 

6.   falsely impersonating a Tsalagi, Algonquin, Mohawk and AIM member;

7.   in violation of Haudenosaunee ways that prohibits alienation of any Territory;

8.       in violation of the Kaianereh'ko:wa and Guswentha which prohibits him from being Haudenosaunee; and

9.       betraying the Kanion'ke:haka by fraudulently negotiating a land claim settlement and other agreements for Haudenosaunee Territory and resources with the corporations of CANADA and ONTARIO when he has no capacity to represent us and no legitimate right to engage in negotiations concerning property to which he is not and has never been heir.   

We demand that he stop participating in fraudulent negotiations and that he leave our country immediately.   

TAKE NOTICE THAT the Kaianereh'ko:wa, our constitution, provides that the Kahtihon'tia:kwenio hold title to the land and that no man or woman accepting the laws of foreign nations or acting as agents for corporations may relinquish our title.

View background at www.mohawknationnews.com at

"Sharbot Lake"; Kahnawake Post Office Box 991, Kahnawake
Quebec [J0L 1B0]; kahentinetha2 at yahoo.com
katenies20 at yahoo.com"

Kahentinetha Horn

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Re: Robert Lovelace
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Re: Robert Lovelace
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 04:03:40 am »
I can't see what the Cote family has to do with Robert Lovelace but I just did a quick look and I didn't see anything that suggests Jean Cote may have been  Mi'kmaq. The website below discusses what is known about the family in detail , and the researchers who put this together aren't in denial about other Native lines. If there was any reason to believe Jean Cote was Mi'kmaq I would guess they would have mentioned this.

http://www.tomthievin.ca/cote.html

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This article is a survey of our Côté genealogy. There are as a conservative estimate about 50,000 — perhaps even as many as 100,000 — Côtés or persons in North America linked to the bloodline, and most, if not all of them have Jean Côté, who arrived in North America in 1634, as their original ancestor.

With 50,000 0 100,000 descendents that may not be a good rumor to be passing around unless there is actually some strong evidence ...
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Re: Robert Lovelace
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 01:50:15 pm »
A side issue, Lovelace's claim of being a draft dodger. If he claims he first came to Canada in 1979 to dodge the draft, Carter had already signed an amnesty as his first act as president, Jan 1977.

Also, I don't know enough about the region, but why would Canada's govt be negotiating with a man IDd as Algonquin if the land is Mohawk?

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