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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: TrishaRoseJacobs on September 14, 2005, 12:27:07 pm

Title: ojibwe/cree question
Post by: TrishaRoseJacobs on September 14, 2005, 12:27:07 pm
Know of anyone named starwalker kiena masta? I got a copy of flyer this person put out advertising for a sweat. I've googled but aside from a few references here and there didn't find anything difinitive such as their own website.
Title: Re: ojibwe/cree question
Post by: Scott Brainard on September 14, 2005, 01:01:25 pm
Found this on http://www.autochtones.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=558& , about half way down the page:

"VOICI TES MESSAGES INDIENS DANIELLE ;

Bonjour ?  tous et toutes,
J'ai placé dans l'albume de photo, quelques photos de la cérémonie de notre mariage.

C'est notre amie Kiena Masta, Shamane Ojibwe qui a célébré la cérémonie.

Chez les Ojibwe, la femme a le droit de fumer la pipe sacrée, comme chez les Lakotas.

Fumer la Pipe Sacrée dans une cérémonie de mariage est l'équivalent de faire un serment, de signer un contract. Mais bien plus encore , car lorsqu'on se mari c'est non seulement pour la vie, mais pour toutes les autres vies qui vont suivrent.

C'est un mariage pour l'éternité.

Durant la cérémonie il y a aussi le rituel de la couverture rouge. La couverture rouge représente le sang; le sang qui se mêle lors de la première relation sexuelle entr autre mais aussi celui qui coulera lorsque la femme donnera naissance ?  ses enfants.

C'est aussi le geste qui témoigne que la Femme choisi de prendre cet Homme pour époux puisqu'il est fait devant tous les témoins présents.

C'est de cette façon que nous nous sommes marié.
Voil?  l'explication des nouvelles photos
Atiu Danielle
Métisse"

Here's a Babelfish translation (certain to be complete with many grammatical horrors):

"HERE YOUR INDIAN MESSAGES DANIELLE; Hello at all and all, I placed in the albume of photograph, some photographs of the ceremony of our marriage. It is our friend Kiena Masta, Shamane Ojibwe which celebrated the ceremony. At Ojibwe, the woman has the right to smoke the crowned pipe, as at Lakotas. To smoke the Pipe Crowned in a ceremony of marriage is the equivalent to make an oath, to sign a contract. But much more still, because when one husband it is not only for the life, but for all the other lives which go suivrent. It is a marriage for eternity. During the ceremony there is also the ritual of the red cover. The red cover represents blood; the blood which mixes at the time of the first sexual intercourse entr other but also that which will run when the woman gives rise to her children. It is also the gesture which testifies that the Woman selected to take this Man for husband since it is made in front of all the witnesses present. It is in this way that we married. Here is the explanation of the new photographs Atiu Danielle Métisse"