Here is a link for Ishi (David Ian)'s partner, Taco Blom. I did not highlight Taco in my first post because he is quiet and hardworking, and does not womanize as Ishi does. However, as you will see, he is also conducting Inipis and selling drums. He is an olive skinned Dutch man, I think he has some ancestry from Spain. http://www.tonanzi.nl/
Vision Quest
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De kosten zijn € 450
Zweethutceremonies
Vision Quest
26 april tot 3 mei
Inhoud
Vision quest betekent letterlijk "zoektocht voor je visioen". Het is een ritueel dat in heel veel varianten in heel erg veel culturen voorkomt. Je laat in feite even alles wat je bezighoudt in het leven los en zoekt de verbinding met de wezenlijke weg van je ziel.
Vier dagen en vier nachten verblijf je alleen op een plek in de natuur met alleen Water; geen voedsel, geen koffie, geen alcohol , geen afleiding. Zo wordt je steeds helderder om de antwoorden op je vragen te vinden.
We helpen je om goed voorbereid aan jouw quest te beginnen en terwijl je alleen bent steunen we je op afstand. Je belangrijkste bondgenoot is de Natuur zelf. Zij zal je dragen en helpen de antwoorden te vinden op jouw vragen.
Wij raden je af een Vision Quest te doen als je in een labiele periode van je leven bent of als je momenteel psychotherapeutische hulp krijgt om goed te funktioneren.
AANMELDEN UITERLIJK 1 APRIL!!!
Cursusleiding
Taco en Carolyne Blom- Reyneveld
Meer informatie: www.Tonanzi.nl, 0570 601155, of 0615058755, ikbenik@Tonanzi.nl
Prijs
De kosten zijn € 450,- Dit is Inclusief verblijf in tenten (tijdens de voorbereiding en na terugkeer).
Voor een meerprijs is verblijf in een kamer mogelijk. Zie VAKANTIEVERBLIJF.
Indianenjeugdweek
21 tot 25 juli
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Tipi's bouwen, indianenverhalen beleven, overleven in de natuur, kortom ervaren hoe de indianen leefden en vooral hoe zij omgingen met de natuur.
De activiteiten worden georganiseerd op het terrein van Lothlorien en in de omliggende bossen en uitgestrekte natuur. Activiteiten worden altijd aangepast aan de leeftijd van de deelnemers en zijn actief, uitdagend, creatief en vooral leuk.
Begeleiding
Richard Slager – activiteitenorganisator en -begeleider op Lothlorien – geeft al een aantal jaar invulling aan jeugd en kinderactiviteiten in binnen en buitenland.
Fredy Wamelink, brengt vanuit jarenlange ervaring in het onderwijs , theater en jeugdactiviteiten haar visie en ervaring over op de deelnemers.
Prijs
Variërend per activiteit: € 7,50 tot € 25,00
Hele week, 10 dagdelen: € 85,00
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Uh, maybe this is a culture/language gap but... he calls himself "Taco"?
Her & Ishi are both pretty expert at hearing an argument and then in a nasty sort of tattletale spirit bringing up another issue, (usually about somebody else's flaws) so they won't have to deal with what you have said. Not the fair debating tactics my highschool English teacher once discussed.
I gather alcoholics do the same thing. If you get angry when they get drunk, the argument may well turn from one about how they shouldn't be drunk, into one about why you shouldn't be angry with them.
Ishi "Fire Cloud" Crosby is now active in the Dutch province of Fryslân. Supposedly 'chief of the Pipe Society of the (European?) Susquehannock Tribe' he works with a woman named Margriet Wolf who calls herself Margriet "Many Fires White Rainbow Wolf". The 'wolf' bit actually is her real surname I think. She is a member of the Susquahannock Tribe of Florida. She is a 'body-oriented psychotherapist, emotional body-oriented trauma therapist, masseur, healer and guide who specializes in the (therapeutic) guidance of adults and children with traumas who need extra help'. Her target group includes "children or adults with autism related disorders, delusions, mental handicaps, ADHD, high sensitivity or something similar."
Her website is manyfires.nl and she also appears on the site http://susquehannock.net/societys_in_europe/dutch/wolf.htm Apparently she is the chief of the Dutch 'Wolf Society''Wolf Society' which promotes "spiritual growth according to Indian or druidic tradition". On June 26th she will welcome Robin Youngblood, another acquaintance of this site I think. Robin will give personal readings and healings.
Margriet Wolf is also a water pourer during sweat lodge ceremonies and urges people with "phobias, depression, trauma, AIDS, lung disorders, etc" to participate in the ceremony. She does advice against participation by people who either have a pacemaker or suffer from "certain cardiac disorders or forms of breathlesness and contagious diseases" but states that she is "a trauma expert" and she will be able to advice people whether or not they can participate.
She also teaches the Wolf Clan Teachings by Grandmother Twylah Nitsch. During the course everybody will creates their own little medicine wheel by using 'indian beads'. Participants 12 years and older. Margriet's
Another seemingly important member of this gang is Jolanda "Sun Crow" (chief of the Crow SOciety http://www.crowsociety.com/crows.html) who says she was initiated by 'black shamans' in Mongolia after the spirit of a 13th or 14th century wise woman possessed her. Her 'tribe members' are all shamans or healers or mediums and all but one of them are Dutch, the exception being one Belgian. They're also all members of the European Susquahannock tribe.
Litsehimmel
Wolf is incredibly reckless. She is endangering the lives of those in her sweats even more than most frauds. Almost every one of those types of ill people should NOT be at a sweat. Traumatized people may wind up reliving the traumas and have psychotic episodes.
Wolf Society http://manyfires.nl/index.php?id=5
Is there any evidence she got a right to threat people with traumatic stress disorder or other mental issues? What is her profession? A profession with a medical basics?
Maybe she got no education and it is participation at one's own risk and this woman won´t be responsible for the results.
There is another problem. [...] Can Wolf be sure she recognizes all the signs? Can Wolf change something in the situation quickly to turn away a dangerous situation? I cannot imagine.
On the other side I heard about sweat lodges lead by Natives for Natives with PTSD. What kind of knowledge and tradition they got to heal people with PTSD I don´t know. Every culture has their own traditional ways to treat, they belong to their way.
Artemis is said to venture into the field of public mental health without any form of licensing, and at the detriment of women with severe psychological problems.
Artemis is a sect.
The black book circulating on internet since the past few months tears the company to shreds. Artemis and its seven national subsidiaries which annually try to help approx. 220 women with severe psychological problems find a job, is called 'dangerous' and 'unsafe'.
Director-owner Jeannette Poorter does not seem to be impressed by the criticism. Her company has fallen prey to a defamation campaign, is her opinion. "By women who have gotten stuck in the agner phase. Such a shame."
She does not even try to refute the reproach that Artemis is a sect. "You might consider it to be a compliment. It indicates that you have vision. The only difference is that I allow you to leave." The resistance is even understandable according to Poorter. " Artemis is an experiment. All new things generate resistance."
The black book tells the poignant experiences that 28 women had with the company. Artemis, which exclusively deals with women and in doing so has an average annual income of 800,000 euro, mostly government funded, is said to push its clients even further down into depression.
"Women who have just been released from a closed insititution are put to work within Artemis for 24 hours per week, without any form of coaching" says M.H. from G. who took the initiative for the internet black book. "I don't know of any woman who has found a paid job outside of Artemis."
H. herself worked at Artemis for 1,5 years. She arrived with a burn-out and made it to general manager of all seven centers. "Until my conscious kicked in" she says. I thought I could change the company policy, but to no avail."
Artemis coaches her clients according to the 'female freemason principle' says owner Jeannette Poorter. The women arrive as 'spinsters'. unaware of themselves and their history. Through the course 'offering to invest' in which the women are confronted with their past, and many of them have experienced sexual abuse, they arrive in the phase of 'weaver'. A quiet phase, according to Poorter.
In this phase women at Artemis receive 'the turn-around', an assesment of 11 half-days during which they're advised to start working on 'what their soul wants'. "In fifteen years society will be taken over by the right brain, the feminine consciousness" states Poorter. "During 'the Turn-around' I re-educate women into that new consciousness."
After the clients have completed the Turn-around, they will have moved past the anger phase and can enter the phase of 'designer' according to Poorter. "Designers create their own lives" she explains. "It's the entrepeneur's phase, you do not have to set up your live as others would have you do." Once women realize this, they are free and can handle anything, is the underlying idea.
Total cost of the process: 13,000 euro plus 750 euro for the Turn-around.
(Did not translate the rest of the article;emphasis added by me)
There is another problem. [...] Can Wolf be sure she recognizes all the signs? Can Wolf change something in the situation quickly to turn away a dangerous situation? I cannot imagine.
[...]There are a lot of different treatments for those people, physical is one way ...arts, sports, etc., but never the only way. And all therapists need conection with the psychotherapiest or psychologist.[...]
Wolf got an education in EMDR, this is a therapy with good results. But she can learn it without being a psychotherapist or psychologist with special education in psychotraumatology? I wonder if this is possible in some countries.
This would be a bullshit, big bullshit because you can never be sure for 100% if you recognize all the signs or not. And during a therapy you neesd all your senses and must be able to change the treat, within in a short time.
Almost every one of those types of ill people should NOT be at a sweat. Traumatized people may wind up reliving the traumas and have psychotic episodes.[...]There are a lot of different treatments for those people, physical is one way ...arts, sports, etc., but never the only way. And all therapists need conection with the psychotherapiest or psychologist.[...]
Sounds pretty logical, making sure medical expertise is guaranteed. However, I don't think that's the case here.
The case is that therapists better should know in which way a psychologist / psychotherapist works with his patient, so that the therapist does not wotk against the psychotherapie. If a psychologist decide to stabilize his patient it would be not ok to solve physical blocades completely, not with massage, osteopathie, manual therapies.
Therapist got to know about psychological practice to be sensible for alarmringing caued by a reaction of the patient.
If the therapist, no matter in which special field / profession he works, it can be that he works contrary to the psychologist - and the psychologist wonders himself, why his works does not run, the patient is not able to follow the psychotherapy.