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Title: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on September 04, 2013, 04:43:17 pm
Chuck Spezzano is definitely not First Nations, he appears to be targeting first nations and their healing money.
spezzano mentioned in a nafps post under a fraud named Philip Young, Spezzano is mentioned in the last entryon this posting.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0
 
 Spezzano has been targeting First Nations in healing money in British columbia, Canada,
 some of the targeted money was meant for Residential school survivors The Aboriginal Healing Foundation and fn's village band councils band funding are some targeted funders that have given him money for rss survivors
  Spezzano's healing model is based on A Course Of Miracles, which is a recognized cult in the U.S.A.
   To become an "advanced Trainer" in his organization you have 100 plus days of his "training" and to join or become a "oneness dheeksha blesser".this is also a recognized cult in the U.S.A.
 I am wondering if someone will help to research and verify that  Spezzano's and his Psychology Of vision is indeed a high demand group and is harmful to first nations people because his 100 day grads that he turns into "advanced trainers" lead the public and the funders to believe that they can fix peoples minds, targeting residential school survivors for money meant fot their true healing

http://fnsds.org/files/Conference%202009/Psychology%20Of%20Vision/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf

http://povcanada.com/first-nations/

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm

http://www.growthvision.bz/Default.aspx?tabid=57

lency spezzano is chucks wife and the inventer of "joining"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcOoCtUJ-kI

  does spezzano have any licensed academic accreditation/basis and recognition to his business in the U.S.A. ? he leads the public that he is highly successful and that he is an accredited psychologist.
 is he licensed ?
his 100 day grads are uncredited to practice psychology,yet they to promote themselves as such, again preying on vulnerable residential school survivors,

what makes this organization scary and threatening to first nations is that his "teachings" seem to be about commercializing power,dominance and control so the participants are better than others (the ones that don't get it)
capitalism and materialism seem to be his idea of success, this is a scary concept to peoples cultures when native traditions and beliefs are changed to suit what the participants ideas to get what they want



 is this the same chuck spezzano with California superior court charges against him that is coming to canada and holding workshops in other countries??

http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html

 If there is fraud to money meant for others and theft of the money to be spent on themselves and their group,this is a criminal act and is not healing,spiritual,or enlightened behavior

 Hopefully others will  research and share both good and not so good opinions and information about Chuck Spezzano and his spiritual business called  Psychology  of vision.












Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 04, 2013, 08:04:20 pm
In Hawaii, in the past, they did business as variations of Psychology of Vision http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/search.html?recordType=ALL&status=ALL&beginsWith=true&query=psychology+of+vision (http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/search.html?recordType=ALL&status=ALL&beginsWith=true&query=psychology+of+vision) - all those have expired. Maybe they use the name elsewhere. They continue to use Spezzano & Associates, Limited http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=81992D1 (http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=81992D1)

He is Charles Lee Spezzano, she Lenora Kay Spezzano.

MASTER NAME    SPEZZANO & ASSOCIATES, LIMITED
BUSINESS TYPE    Domestic Profit Corporation
FILE NUMBER    81992 D1
STATUS    Active
PURPOSE    TO CONDUCT SEMINARS AND LECTURES THROUGH OUT THE WORLD
PLACE INCORPORATED    Hawaii UNITED STATES
REGISTRATION DATE    Nov 15, 1990
MAILING ADDRESS    47-416 WAIHEE PL
KANEOHE, Hawaii 96744
UNITED STATES
TERM    PER
AGENT NAME    CHARLES L. SPEZZANO
AGENT ADDRESS    47-716 WAIHEE PL
KANEOHE, Hawaii 96744
UNITED STATES
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 04, 2013, 08:10:27 pm
They also did business for a few years under this name:

MASTER NAME    CENTER FOR ABORIGINAL HEALING AND VISION
BUSINESS TYPE    Domestic Nonprofit Corporation
FILE NUMBER    202846 D2
STATUS    Inv. Dissolved
PURPOSE    MEETINGS, NETWORKING, HEALING WORKSHOPS
PLACE INCORPORATED    Hawaii UNITED STATES
REGISTRATION DATE    Jan 17, 2003
MAILING ADDRESS    47-416 WAIHEE PL
KANEOHE, Hawaii 96744
UNITED STATES
TERM    PER
AGENT NAME    CHARLES L. SPEZZANO
AGENT ADDRESS    47-416 WAIHEE PL
KANEOHE, Hawaii 96744
UNITED STATES

http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=202846D2&view=info (http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=202846D2&view=info)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on September 04, 2013, 10:24:14 pm
thanx very much Piff,
 Chuck Spezzano is still very active with his spiritual business,

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/events/

 he uses the internet to advertise and lure in his participants with his self promoting puff talk.making people believe that he is has an accredited psychology degree, he advertises huge successful results about how wonderfull his business is at making people happy while it costs a lot of money for his continuing never ending"workshops",never ending because you always need more of his "teachings" to get happy, meaning more $$$
he also has his own tarot card readings for his followers to live their lives by and give answers to their life's problems

 spezzano has never been a registrant by the college of psychologists of b.c. canada to practice psychology in b.c or canada,

 If spezzano is unlicensed to practice psychology in the state of Hawaii,is he even allowed to use psychology terminology or wording in his advertisements,can he even use the word psychology? the records show that he terminated his business a long time ago, so is he deceiving the public? by misleading the public to believe that he is licensed and qualified to fix peoples minds,
i wonder what the psychologist licensing board of Hawaii would think of chuck spezzano's spiritual business if he's using terminology he isn't licensed to use??

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 04, 2013, 10:52:16 pm
Here's the Hawaii professional license check site http://pvl.ehawaii.gov/pvlsearch/app (http://pvl.ehawaii.gov/pvlsearch/app)

He doesn't have to be licensed to use psychological terminology, but ideally he would be very clear about his professional  licensing status, education/degrees, and status of any businesses.

Their large group seminars look pricey and designed to keep people coming back for more. While spending more. They encourage people to become trainers:

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Each Psychology of Vision trainer has completed 100 days of workshop training including at least 30 days accumulated during 10-day Apprenticeship trainings with Chuck and Lency Spezzano. This requires great commitment and often-unreal levels of courage to look so deeply within themselves and continue to give.

Any graduate of the 100 Day Programme who feels called to this model can apply to the Training Programme. They will be given feedback by their peers and many given feedback on their more hidden behaviours, which they are asked to look at. Having survived this they are welcomed into the group of dedicated Psychology of Vision Trainers, but this is not the end, even within the programme they are asked to continue their growth and dedicate themselves to a life of learning and giving.

http://povcanada.com/introduction-to-trainers/ (http://povcanada.com/introduction-to-trainers/)

This sounds very expensive and stressful.

Skeptic's Dictionary has a good essay on large group awareness training programs: http://www.skepdic.com/lgsap.html (http://www.skepdic.com/lgsap.html)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on September 04, 2013, 11:24:31 pm
the big problem that first nations are facing with this guy is he has already trained some first nations to be advanced trainers and he's trying to get them to train residential school survivors so they can go go back to their villages to train rss so everyone will "get along"
 the money for these "workshops" will be targeted from funding meant for true accredited residential school survivors healing,because of the deep trauma the residential school survivors suffered, it is a highly specialized field, yet chuck spezanno and his first nations advanced trainers lead people to believe that they're qualified to do so.after 100 days of his workshop days, this is barely over 3 months out of of 4 years of university needed to get a degree,
first nations government money seems to be an easy target for unethical unscrupulous con artists,and there are many variations of the same theme, get the money,and the means justifies the end, get it at all costs, no matter who gets hurt,
how unfortunate for first nations when the day happens when they're are doing this to their own people
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 04, 2013, 11:44:23 pm
the big problem that first nations are facing with this guy is he has already trained some first nations to be advanced trainers and he's trying to get them to train residential school survivors so they can go go back to their villages to train rss so everyone will "get along"
 the money for these "workshops" will be targeted from funding meant for true accredited residential school survivors healing,because of the deep trauma the residential school survivors suffered, it is a highly specialized field, yet chuck spezanno and his first nations advanced trainers lead people to believe that they're qualified to do so.after 100 days of his workshop days, this is barely over 3 months out of of 4 years of university needed to get a degree,
first nations government money seems to be an easy target for unethical unscrupulous con artists,and there are many variations of the same theme, get the money,and the means justifies the end, get it at all costs, no matter who gets hurt,
how unfortunate for first nations when the day happens when they're are doing this to their own people

This is truly sad.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on September 05, 2013, 05:10:55 pm
   It's much worse than sad..
spezzano's "teachings" are probably the most damaging therapy/counseling anyone can give residential school survivors. spezzano is still trying to take full advantage of vulnerable people and take the money the government allotted for their true healing and have it all for himself and his devout followers to spend  on themselves, there is ample proof that this was already done and now spezzano and his gang are doing it again.one of the spezzano slogans is-
STEP UP TO HAVE IT ALL
 one of our first nations ways is to share and help each other,everyone and anyone that needs help, this is one of the common traditions that kept all cultures alive and to survive 10's of thousands of years,up to this day,
  until now,
now we have to watch and protect ourselves from hucksters and frauds,
 some people appear to turned capitalist and commercialized themselves to make money even at the cost of ruining people and their culture
  it is so sad when someone in any tribe has taken these corrupt style of "teachings"and applies it to their own people for profit motivated self gain,power and control are all in the same boat.
 from what i am witnessing with spezzano's participants living his ideas on living a happy life, it all seem to be an extension of colonialism,based on their greedy needs for materialism, and not helping others, unless you're in spezzano's group or whatever other you need to be in to follow spezzano's way to live,spezzano definitely has proventhat his "teachings" splits families and village citizens into them and us that don't belong to his group
this is not detrimental to any first nations culture. the participants seem to lose track of their first nations identity by diluting the traditions by including and following spezzano's "teachings' in the first nations ceremonies.
scary scary, if these groups aren't identified for what they truly are..

what do we teach our children
 
http://povcanada.com/first-nations/



can anyone research and post the outcome of this Cali. superior court case where spezzano is listed as giving false documents under the guise of a licensed psychologist ??
chuck and lency spezzano are alleged to have given false testimony in California Superior court against a man that ended up committing suicide

https://www.google.ca/search?q=kim+berry+%2Csteve+tipaldi+verdict&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 05, 2013, 09:50:37 pm
California license search http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/wllqryna$lcev2.startup?p_qte_code=LX&p_qte_pgm_code=1800 (http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/wllqryna$lcev2.startup?p_qte_code=LX&p_qte_pgm_code=1800)

Licensee Name:   SPEZZANO CHARLES LEE
License Type:   MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST
License Number:   15654
License Status:   CANCELED
Expiration Date:   May 31, 1990
Issue Date:   August 15, 1980
Address:   46-381 HOLOPU PLACE
City:   KANEOHE
State:   HI
Zip:   96744
County:   OUT OF STATE
Actions:   No
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British Columbia http://www.collegeofpsychologists.bc.ca/verify.php (http://www.collegeofpsychologists.bc.ca/verify.php) - don't see him listed there

Some Hawaii court records http://www.courts.state.hi.us/legal_references/records/jims_system_availability.html (http://www.courts.state.hi.us/legal_references/records/jims_system_availability.html) - I'll upload clips of what is in index

California has a Superior Court trial court in each of the 58 counties http://www.courts.ca.gov/find-my-court.htm (http://www.courts.ca.gov/find-my-court.htm) In some cases a search will only work with the case number included.

Could all this be turned over to authorities - such as RCMP, licensing board, attorney? Someone who can run a full background check and collect court records.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on September 05, 2013, 10:25:43 pm
licensing area in psychology Hawaii hopefully are looking into this, perhaps they already have a file going on this group that we don't know about,

http://hawaii.gov/dcca/pvl/boards/psychology/

http://hawaii.gov/dcca/rico/about


   if a little more digging around shows fraud and manipulation to deceive the funders to dole out $$ for this group and its members he P.O.V. organization,and that indeed they're not qualified to fix peoples minds,as they lead people that they are, 
 then maybe the RCMP should know about this group,if it is really bad then perhaps some law enforcement agencies in the U.S.A. should be notified about this "non profit "group. they certainly charge a lot of money to the participants to attend his workshops/seminars, and they never seem to become healed, they have to keep going and paying to "get it".
   being unethical and having hidden agendas isn't unlawful, depending what the hidden agendas are, they could easily become unlawful and harmful to the public,
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on September 08, 2013, 01:01:52 am
 

 fyi-
spezzano's business and fees while in the U.K.
 where this site is listed they say FOR FOOLS NOT YET PARTED WITH THEIR MONEY, and they ask if spezzano woulld forgive them if they didn't pay his fee
         http://www.povevents.com/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/
 
on the web link listed below,spezzano is listed on the board of directors as a global authority on human development, andhis wife lency is listed on the advisory board..

 http://www.zhouenlaipeaceinstitute.org/en/contact/participants/

 here is where spezzano is listed as a $1000/hr "hero of forgiveness" ,private coaching sessions..

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesDailyNews/tabid/65/ID/7330/July-28-2012-News-Read.aspx

here is spezzano getting a" forgiveness award"

http://www.hawaiiforgivenessproject.org/press/Star-Advertiser-July-2012-Three-Heroes.pdf

   is there any information to show if any of the board of directors gave financial donations and what their status is in planning in the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute and the Hawaii Forgiveness Project
  I am wondering if a board of directors member that donated  large sums of $$ cash, could it be that this person bought their way in,
  and if someone was involved in planning and promoting the Hawaii Forgiveness Project and then this person was  given a "hero for forgiveness" award from their own project, what credibility does this award have,
 
and at the very least, could this person in question be using the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute and the Hawaii forgiveness project as a clever disguise for promoting his own spiritual business??

 http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/5317/categoryId/54/Chinese-Communists-Cheer-Formation-of-Zhou-Enlai-Peace-Institute-in-Honolulu.aspx






         




Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 09, 2013, 11:13:18 pm
http://web.archive.org/web/20120312030733/http://www.fnsds.org/files/Conference%202009/Psychology%20Of%20Vision/POVtriangle%202005.pdf (http://web.archive.org/web/20120312030733/http://www.fnsds.org/files/Conference%202009/Psychology%20Of%20Vision/POVtriangle%202005.pdf) Uploaded a copy of this Psychology of Vision Model, all sorts of stuff is in there including shamanism, tantra, "dark gods". Looks like a Nuage mess of Jungian influenced psychobabble.

Lots of videos to watch available through youtube. Lency starts her "download" healing whatever treatment here at about 5:06. She starts sobbing at about 6:17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk#t=50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk#t=50)

Lency builds a bliss engine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcOoCtUJ-kI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcOoCtUJ-kI)

I don't see how any of this can be helpful, in fact it looks potentially damaging and crazy making. For instance how can this be helpful for First Nations people recovering from trauma? --->

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Lency Spezzano, co-founder of the Psychology of Vision, teaches 5 day seminars that heal psychological injury and take participants through the self-annihilation process (or slaying of the ego) that leads to enlightenment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1TW8e7_YGg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1TW8e7_YGg)

Why on earth would trauma survivors need a "self-annihilation process"?
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 09, 2013, 11:27:44 pm
Top officers of Zhou Enlai Peace Institute (domestic nonprofit corporation) :

NORTH,MICHAEL     
SPEZZANO,CHARLES     
BUFFETT,MARY     
NORTH,XIAO FANG ZHOU

Spezzano is a director. http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=233694D2&view=officers (http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=233694D2&view=officers)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 09, 2013, 11:50:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6)

This is Chuck talking about the system he says he's developed. He says he was trained early on in hypnosis. He does lay out his claimed training but without names, dates, or specifics. At 1:59 or so in video he says in the 70s he studied with "psychics and shamans" but he doesn't name any names.

He has numerous videos where he holds forth on sorts of subjects from sex, Iraq, Obama, bailouts, art in schools, unemployment, Tiger Woods etc. etc.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 10, 2013, 01:24:33 am
At 1:59 or so in video he says in the 70s he studied with "psychics and shamans" but he doesn't name any names.

There seems to be a lot of differing info regarding his course(s) of study - here a three versions I found at German-language sites:

http://www.mymedworld.cc/chuckspezzano.html

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Portrait
Chuck Spezzano, PhD, studied psychology, philosophy, and sociology and received a doctorate at International University, San Diego, California in 1977. From 1973 to 1979, he was working as a psychologist at Naval Rehabilitation Center in San Diego. He lead thousands of therapy groups and personal consultations, and developed a system of workshops for rehab treatment of drug addicts. From 1980 to 1991, he worked in marriage, family, and educational counsellation. In 1975, Chuck Spezzano began to do lectures and workshops on many different healing issues. Since 1984, he has developed Psychology of Vision with his wife Lency, a method which both teach in workshops and seminars worldwide. Chuck Spezzano has written numerous books which were translated into many languages.


http://www.robert-betz-shop.de/wenn-alle-menschen-freunde-waeren-p-52188.html

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Chuck Spezzano holds an M.A. In sociology and earned his doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979, he was a psychologist at „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ and had considerable success treating war traumata in Vietnam veterans. Subsequently, he worked in marriage and family counselling. In more than 30 years of intense work and research, he developed the groundbreaking therapeutic healing method of „Psychology of Vision“, a combination of classic psychology with spiritual principles. It leads people beyond their psychological conflicts to true creativity and a meaningful life.


Despite the different/additional info provided, this bio is worded exactly like the previous one:

http://www.michaelditsch.de/koerper-psyche/chuck-lency-spezzano.html

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Chuck Spezzano has a B.A. In philosophy and psychology of Duquesne University, an M.A. In sociology, and earned a PhD in clinical psychology from United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he was a psychologist at the „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ at Miramar Air Station in San Diego and had considerable success treating war traumata of Vietnam veterans. […]
(Text + Foto POV International)


And this is what Spezzano writes on his homepage:

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm

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More Chuck Biography
Chuck Spezzano was born in upstate New York, where his father was finishing his college degree. He grew up in Bristol, Pennsylvania, just above Philadelphia. Seeing the pain in his family and desiring to help people in general, Chuck left for the Holy Ghost Father’s seminary in Cornwell Heights, Pa. Here he spent four years reading, studying, playing sports and making friends.

His next year was spent at Ridgefield, Connecticut at a novitiate, after which he took temporary vows and moved to Bethel Park Collegiate seminary, attending Duquesne University. After three and a half years he found that he no longer felt the calling to be a priest, and so he left the seminary, taking a second major in Psychology as well as Philosophy. He then graduated cum laude from Duquesne University with a Bachelor of Arts, went on for a Master’s Degree in Sociology in an experimental program that included Philosophy and Psychology, while studying Sociology from an ecologic point of view. Duquesne University is the home of existential phenomenology in the U. S., which is where humanistic psychology began.

From there Chuck moved to San Diego and began his doctoral studies at United States International University, one of the few schools in the U. S. for humanistic psychology at the time.

Profoundly disappointed in his doctoral studies, he decided that if he was to get an education, he would need to give it to himself. As a result, he threw himself into his doctoral dissertation, which was looking for a new model of healing based on vision and creativity, rather then just repair. He felt he really gained the experience necessary to make his innovative techniques, methods and models when he began to work at the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center as a psychologist.

While supervised by psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, Chuck began to study short term psychotherapies. He developed different techniques and methods to discover accelerated forms of healing, which could deal with the ever growing caseload, and the diminishing time in which to help.

It was during this time that he began discovering deep healing principles in the mind that were not written about in psychological literature. This is when Chuck also attended his first program seminar call Lifespring. Having conducted hundreds of therapy groups and individual sessions at the Rehab Center, Chuck began designing seminars that included the process principle of therapeutic group works with the power of therapeutic exercises of seminars. Chuck also became part of a team at the Rehab Center teaching military personnel to become paraprofessional counselors in an effort to combat drug abuse and to help drug abusers. It was during this time that he graduated with his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology.

In fall 1979 he left his job with the Navy and began private practice as a Marriage, Family and Child Counselor, while volunteering time as a trainer with ARAS, a workshop company with spiritual dimensions. It was also during this time that he worked more fully on his research with “the triangle model,” the psycho-spiritual steps of evolution we go through as an individuals, relationships, companies or countries. In 1982 Chuck opened his office in Orange County after moving to Laguna Beach, California. In 1982 and 1983 he also taught at the Tubb Wholestic Health Institute in Southern California, before moving to Hawaii.

While working with the Navy, one of his colleagues told him about A Course in Miracles. As Chuck began to read the Course’s workbook and text, he found most of the healing principles he thought he had personally discovered written about in A Course in Miracles. He then found many more principles there that he had not discovered, that he could corroborate and use in his healing work. To this day, A Course in Miracles remains a source point of inspiration and guidance. [...]

One cannot quite say that after reading those four versions of his biography, the question where he earned which minors, majors, etc becomes much clearer.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 10, 2013, 02:42:26 am
Great work Ingeborg!

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studied psychology, philosophy, and sociology and received a doctorate at International University, San Diego, California in 1977
- this isn't clear what he got his doctorate in at all, implied is that it is in one of those 3 subjects, but it might not be

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began his doctoral studies at United States International University, one of the few schools in the U. S. for humanistic psychology at the time.

Profoundly disappointed in his doctoral studies, he decided that if he was to get an education, he would need to give it to himself. As a result, he threw himself into his doctoral dissertation, which was looking for a new model of healing based on vision and creativity, rather then just repair. He felt he really gained the experience necessary to make his innovative techniques ..
- in this version, he doesn't clearly state what his doctorate is in, he implies psychology but doesn't outright say that

The other two bios:

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earned a PhD in clinical psychology from United States International University, San Diego

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earned his doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego

As for what he then says he worked as, all would depend on what USA state he was in and at what time, in terms of what the requirements were. In the late 70s & early 80s he may well have been able to work at particular jobs in the psychology field with only a related A.A. , B.A. degree or even work experience, requirements are much higher now.

I wonder if he actually earned a PhD in Psychology.

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The words that love made--a poetic phenomenology of the poet's experience of being a poet
Author:    Charles Lee Spezzano
Publisher:    1977.
Dissertation:    Thesis (Ph. D.)--United States International University, 1977.
Edition/Format:     Thesis/dissertation : Thesis/dissertation : Manuscript  Archival Material : English

Subjects
    Poetry.
    Phenomenology.
    Poets.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/words-that-love-made-a-poetic-phenomenology-of-the-poets-experience-of-being-a-poet/oclc/18900196&referer=brief_results (http://www.worldcat.org/title/words-that-love-made-a-poetic-phenomenology-of-the-poets-experience-of-being-a-poet/oclc/18900196&referer=brief_results)

More evidence that he is Charles Lee Spezzano:

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CHARLES LEE SPEZZANO, ALSO KNOWN AS CHUCK SPEZZANO

47-416 Waihee Place

96744 Kaneohe

UNITED STATES
CHARLES LEE SPEZZANO, ALSO KNOWN AS CHUCK SPEZZANO owns 1 trademark (registered or pending) in the European Union trademark database (CTM)
Sort: Alphabetic | Recency
PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION
Market: EUROPE
Class: 9 16 41
Type: Word mark
Number: 000078725
Filing date: April 1, 1996
Status: Live
http://trademark.markify.com/trademark-owner/ctm/charles+lee+spezzano,+also+known+as+chuck+spezzano/1192 (http://trademark.markify.com/trademark-owner/ctm/charles+lee+spezzano,+also+known+as+chuck+spezzano/1192)

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 10, 2013, 03:09:57 am
Another clip from Ingeborg's post earlier in thread, from Spezzano's bio:

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It was during this time that he began discovering deep healing principles in the mind that were not written about in psychological literature. This is when Chuck also attended his first program seminar call Lifespring. Having conducted hundreds of therapy groups and individual sessions at the Rehab Center, Chuck began designing seminars that included the process principle of therapeutic group works with the power of therapeutic exercises of seminars.

He says he took a Lifespring seminar, wonder if he took just one or if he got more involved in the group. Lifespring was a high demand large group training scam, like Est, Landmark, and other type scams.

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One thing all these organizations seem to have in common is that members are expected to "enroll" more people for their trainings/weekends. In other words, graduates were expected to be recruiters. They had you believing you were doing something worthy for their cause, so to speak.


http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring2.html (http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring2.html)

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More than a year after the tragedy, Waco is still on my mind, for I, too, once gave my life over to a cult.

But my story does not involve the Branch Davidians, or any other religious group that isolates itself in a compound. My experience was with a cult that arms itself not with rifles but with psychological manipulation. A cult called Lifespring.

Ten years ago my husband and I, 32 and 30 years old, enrolled in a course, hoping to improve our marriage. What started out as a weekend workshop grew into a five-month odyssey that ripped apart our family.
http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring3.html (http://www.culteducation.com/reference/lifespring/lifespring3.html)

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At least 30 lawsuits sought to hold Lifespring responsible for participants' deaths or their mental damages. The company paid to settle some of the suits before trial and in other cases lost jury decisions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespring)

Lifespring: Getting Yourself From Where You Are To Where You Want To Be http://www.lifespring-book.com/ (http://www.lifespring-book.com/)

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 10, 2013, 02:54:26 pm

I compared the English and German versions of the text on First Nations on the Power of Vision website:

http://povcanada.com/first-nations/

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First Nations in Canada
First Nations are the first peoples of Canada, and are made up of over 200 culturally autonomous First Nations with individual languages and traditions. Some of these First Nations groups have been decimated by colonization and nearly all First Nations people have been impacted by the Residential School policy that separated First Nations children from their families and cultures throughout the last century.

German version: First nations are Canada's aboriginals. These are about 200 ethnic tribes which are very different culturally. Every tribe has its own language and tradition.
Some tribes still today are largely decimated by former colonisation, and all tribes have been heavily impacted by the Residential Schools in which almost two generations of their children grew up, having been snatched away from their families and natives culture.


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First Nations & Psychology of Vision
About 10 years ago Chuck & Lency were inspired to work more closely with First Nations people. The POV Healing Model has been graciously welcomed in many First Nation communities, as it aligns with many First Nations belief systems. Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet.

German version: In 1991, Lency & Chuck Spezzano felt inspired to increasingly work with First Nations. Since then, they are offering at least once a year a free workshop and one apprenticeship for the First Nations in Canada. The PoV healing model was accepted gratefully by the First Nations, as it can be integrated well into their own belief system.


That PoV can be integrated or aligns with indigenous belief systems is a claim for which no evidence is being offered. Apart from that, both the English and German version say "belief system", singular, conveniently ignoring the diversity of indigenous religions.

It is in fact interesting that possibilities of free workshops and apprenticeships are not mentioned in the English version. The German version also makes use of a racist imagery – that of the natives, knowing their place, of course being grateful for what is offered to them: we boss, you dirtrag – and you'd better show the proper gratefulness. Yeccchhh.

The claim of "Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet" is similarly arrogant and racist, and rather implies the notion that, during the past several tenthousands of years, this giftedness lay dormant. 


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The First Nations Fund
The First Nations Fund was created to support the healing of First Nations so they can teach & inspire their own communities. Financial contributions have been generously donated from each country where Psychology of Vision is taught around the world. Since its inception the First Nations Fund has successfully graduated 19 First Nations people from the 100 day program, and 9 of these graduates have become FN Trainers around BC.

The First Nations Fund is administered by Susan How at the Psychology of Vision Canada office on a volunteer basis.

German version: The First Nations Fund came into being for coping with the numerous problems within the different ethnic tribes. Up to now, 25 First Nations absolved the 100 day program and at this point in time, there are 5 First Nations PoV trainers who introduce their knowledge in various regions and reservations. (Last sentence omitted in German version)


Please note the different figures given for persons having done the 100 day program (19 / 25) and becoming FN trainers (9 / 5).
On the other hand, a mere 19 or even 25 graduates in now 23 years (cf above: "In 1991, Lency & Chuck Spezzano felt inspired to increasingly work with First Nations") is nothing to write home about and does not exactly speak of an overwhelming success among Canadian First Nations.

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First Nations Fund Application
Applications for the First Nations to subsidize accommodation expenses are on an “as-needs basis” for the upcoming June 2012 Apprenticeship. The funding application deadline is April 30, 2012, applications made after this date may not be considered. Contact susan@povcanada.com for more information.

German version:
Generous financial support has gone into the Fund from all parts of the world in which PoV is being taught. This enables First Nations participation in seminars and support of travel expenses and accomodation during the trainings.

The First Nation Fund is also supported by the First Nations themselves. In every year, there is an auction during the Canadian Apprenticeship, during which donated artworks of indigenous artists are being auctioned according to the interests of the Fund.


Again, the English text does not mention any funding going into course fees while the German version does. This may be a possibility to generate (more) donations while it will be impossible for donours to know whether their monies are being spent accordingly.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 01:41:16 am
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Our First Nations Trainers are trained in The Psychology of Vision ®(POV) healing model which has proven effective in many cultures around the world from England, Germany, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Taiwan, Canada and Africa.. The three major focuses of the model are relationship, leadership through accountability and finally non-denominational spirituality.

In 1991, Dr. Chuck Spezzano and his wife, Lency, who developed this transformational healing model,responded to requests from First Nations’ communities in British Columbia to donate their time and expertise to begin healing this painful Legacy. Since then they have presented one to two workshops a year in kind, organized by several BC First Nations communities like Haida Gwaii, Gitxsan Territory, Tsleil Waututh Nation and Willaims Lake. To date there are now dozens of First Nations here in British Columbia who have received the benefit of this training and now
are fully qualified in using this healing model to now support and empower our people, thus the focus of this mandate to send out a qualified FN Healing team to further the healing on the ground in our communities.

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf (http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf)

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 01:55:25 am

Again, the English text does not mention any funding going into course fees while the German version does. This may be a possibility to generate (more) donations while it will be impossible for donours to know whether their monies are being spent accordingly.

So they could be raising money from donors in Germany and elsewhere, donors who think they are helping out "those poor aboriginals". While also getting grant money and workshop fees. Plus fees for all the "training". Everyone trained is going to feel the need to spread the word, recoup their investment of time and energy. Plus these large group trainings are abusive, people are traumatized and weirded out by them, they will tend to blame themselves and think they just need to do more trainings. More workshops and seminars. And that they need to go out and do this to other people.

"Psychology of Vision healing model" sounds scientific, hey it even has the word Psychology in there! But it isn't scientific, and it isn't sound psychology.

The Spezzanos made this all up themselves, based on other large group trainings and general Nuage psychobabble. Doesn't look they are licensed in the field of psychology currently, since they aren't licensed and they aren't working in a healthy manner in the actual legit field of psychology - they aren't as many checks and balances, no one directly to hold them accountable.

By calling themselves trainers and coaches, by claiming that this all is spiritual enlightenment they want to pass on, they are side stepping ethical boundaries. They really can do most anything in these trainings and then explain most any negative results away.

I believe they are scam artists that are after $.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 02:14:35 am
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AGHUDANG - RESPECT
Physcology of Vision - 5 day Workshop
September 30, October 2-4
10:00am - 6pm (estimated end time)

ERIC GONZALEZ INTENSIVE
October 16-18

This is an example of what one community is going through, they are having a Psychology of Vision 5 day workshop, and then a few weeks later an Erick Gonzalez Intensive.

Info on Erick Gonzalez http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.0)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.msg32107#msg32107 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.msg32107#msg32107)

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 03:06:48 am
So far haven't seen Chuck Spezzano claiming any NDN heritage, but just in case, here is his mother's obit: http://www.madduxfuquahinton.com/obituaries/Ruby-Katherine-Kane1721460222/#!/Obituary (http://www.madduxfuquahinton.com/obituaries/Ruby-Katherine-Kane1721460222/#!/Obituary)


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 03:48:57 am
A critique of a Psychology of Vision ad and web site, by a psychologist (comments worth reading also):

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Nowhere on the site was there anything to do with what I, or any other actual psychologist, would understand as the psychology of vision.  Instead, they talk about how your life will be improved, how the community is loving, and how it’s based on the principles of Relationships, Leadership and Spirituality.  I don’t know about you, but that sounds kind of cultish to me!

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Lency’s bio is even better: “Lency is pioneering Psychology of Vision’s mystical path through her joining method, which utilizes the feminine, direct access to divine love, resulting in the release of emotional pain from the body/mind and the experience of miracles of forgiveness and grace.” That’s a masterful load of crap if I’ve ever read one.

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The point is, neither of these people have anything whatsoever to do with the actual psychology of vision, and the whole website appears to be designed to funnel money into the Spezzano’s bank accounts using cleverly dressed up tarot cards and crappy seminars.  I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was a touch of pyramid scheme to the whole deal, given that they train people to be trainers (the seminar in Vancouver is being put on by some local named Kiara Fine) and harp on about community and leadership.  When the trappings of real science and research are appropriated for this kind of purpose, it further obscures to the public what science is actually about and also bilks people out of their money- and that really riles me.

http://robteszka.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/bad-ads-psychology-of-vision-and-light-healing-therapy/ (http://robteszka.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/bad-ads-psychology-of-vision-and-light-healing-therapy/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Odelle on September 11, 2013, 04:03:26 am
I was really surprised by the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute connection, so I checked out stuff from that angle:

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/5317/Chinese-Communists-Cheer-Formation-of-Zhou-Enlai-Peace-Institute-in-Honolulu.aspx


Zhou Enlai was the Premier of China under Mao Zedong. The institute is run by Xiao Fang Zhou, Zhou Enlai's niece, and her American husband Robert North. They have managed to get Henry Kissinger to say something nice about the Institute in public once (not surprising, since Kissinger's most celebrated moment was meeting with Xiao Fang's uncle and Mao). This sounds like one of those institutes that people with Chinese government connections have been opening in the US in recent years. They usually have vague mission statements like "bridge harmony between China and America!" Or, "bring together Chinese and American elderly!", and are fronts for business, used to host lavish events in which, say, Chinese government officials are introduced to American start up companies wanting to do business in China.  The people opening them also tend to get a bit of material benefits out of the deal.

What's especially creepy about Robert North, Xiao Fang Zhou and this particular institute, though, is that they seem pretty closely connected to Spezzano and his family. Check out Xiao Fang Zhou's FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/xiaofang.north

It's possible the Norths are victims of Spezzano. But it's also possible that he is using the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute for money and access to other students with the Norths' consent. Either way, it's just really bizarre.


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 02:10:51 pm
The Zhou Enlai Peace Institute says it is an initiative of the American - China Bridge - A Bridge of Peace Between Two Great Nations http://americachinabridge.com/en/who/ (http://americachinabridge.com/en/who/) Chuck on board of directors, Lency on board of advisors.

Scroll down to bottom of page and they even have photo and bio of of their legal counsel.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 11, 2013, 04:10:19 pm

I found another entry in a public portal where someone posted the question whether PoV was a cult; the thread starter was concerned about a friend who had got into this. Apart from the usual sockpuppet answers, there are two remarkable ones:

http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/ist-psychology-of-vision-eine-sekte

reply by voinvoin dd 14/08/2012

They definitely are a cult! A psycho-cult to be precise! They are using particular psycho techniques to make people dependent. First of all this is not about problem solving, but to detect persons' „weak spots“ in order to „catch“ them as fast as possible and offer the appropriate „healing method“ (of course this will cost money, e.g. € 100 for a Saturday seminar). For persons who happen to be in a difficult phase in their life, or experience a separation from their partner, problems in the family and so on, or for persons simply open and instable, this organisation is particularly dangerous! I wouldn't recommend anyone to get into contact with these vendors of „heavon on earth“.


Reply by annemk dd 13/02/2010

I disapprove of this outfit, particularly as I am a graduated psychologist myself. I know some persons who are members of this religious community (and I think this is what they are) and have heard their experience. PoV do not apply psychological or psychotherapeutic methods. Therefore, the name in itself is misleading. The practices applied there are all not approved scientifically (i.e. a serious professional does NOT apply them). Family constellation does not solve any problems, but simply visualises structures of a particular point in time. To try and solve problems via place holders is similarly nonsensical, as the person impersonated by a place holder is not able to change, and therefore the problem cannot be relieved. I don't know what these people believe. And I am outraged the name of my discipline is abused for this. Talking to a helpline will be more helpful, although I can imagine that participants will feel better for a short time after having taken a seminar. In the same way as every common experience will make one feel better (concert, protest march), this is a simple principle of the psychology of masses. Dear readers, stay away from this. These people are crafty charlatans.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 11, 2013, 05:05:01 pm

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Plus these large group trainings are abusive, people are traumatized and weirded out by them, they will tend to blame themselves and think they just need to do more trainings. More workshops and seminars. And that they need to go out and do this to other people.

Quite right. The notion that it is the individual who is to blame is brought forward in their principles. Again, this is something not published in all sections – only the sections „USA“ and „Mainland Europe“ (which is restricted to the German-speaking areas Austria, Switzerland, Germany) publish these principles:

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/

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1) Whenever there is a problem or conflict, there has to be a better way. Even in the most difficult of situations, there is always a solution that would allow everyone to win. Love, joining, forgiveness, communication, cooperation, and choice will lead us through.
2) The world is our mirror. Anything we do to others we do to ourselves first. We can only accuse others of something that we believe we ourselves are doing. We make our own reality and write our own stories. Conflicts with others reflect conflicts within ourselves. By resolving our inner issues, we automatically resolve the problems in our world.
3) Anything that happens to us serves our purpose. When painful events occur, we typically have hidden the awareness of the purpose of the events from ourselves. Through accountability, we gain the power to make another choice, and to change what we do not like in our world.
4) No one can do anything to us that we are not already doing to ourselves. No one can do anything to us that we are not also, at some level, doing to others.
5) As we change our beliefs, we change our patterns. Our direction in life comes from our attitude, which is the result of our continuous choices toward the same end.
6) We are always in the perfect place to learn the lesson we most need to learn in order to heal and grow. Our most painful experiences, once they are healed, become the greatest gifts to ourselves and to others.
7) We construct either heaven or hell on earth, depending on what we give to our relationships. They are the means to create transformation. To bond with others and heal relationships creates an accelerated path of growth, because healing the distance between ourselves and those around us heals problems.
8) Leadership lets nothing be more important than answering the calls for help around us. As we recognize that our best interests and the best interests of others are always the same, we move ourselves forward also. To have true success, everyone’s interests must be served. If anyone is the “bad guy,” everyone loses. It is essential to keep communicating until everyone wins.
9) Problems are opportunities to heal the pain of the past, disguised as the pain of the present. All healing is part of our general purpose; it leads us towards our personal purpose. It is never too late to have a happy childhood. This recognizes that all pain is a misunderstanding. As problems are solved, understanding is brought to past and present circumstances, and our history and our future change for the better.
10) The key to our fulfillment is to live our purpose. Embracing our destiny is the best gift we can give the world. Our personal destiny and purpose is to help the world in some way unique to us.
11) All manner of pain and suffering are washed away by love, when empathic “joining” between two or more people occurs. By transcending personal barriers we can become “one” with others, and experience the higher states of consciousness in which pain can no longer exist.
12) Relationships are the fundamental building blocks of life. Given that relationships are the fundamental building blocks of life, it would also hold that the path of relationships is an evolutionary path. From this it would also hold that every problem is a relationship problem at some root level.
13) We are on an evolutionary path to realize that we are Spirit, on the way to Oneness. Receiving grace and miracles is the easiest way to move toward that aim.
14) Whatever our circumstances, however we see things, the answer always lies in healing. It is what we have come for.


Part of these principles are banalities and platitudes (e.g. „There has to be a better way“). Others are devised to put the blame, either for success or for failure, to the individual person.

The principles also put an enormous emphasis on the individual, making it more or less the centre of its universe: e.g. in „the world is our mirror“, „we are always in the perfect place“, „we construct either heaven or hell on earth“. At the same time, some of these principles may easily create double-bind situations: If I am always in the perfect place, then why is my life such a mess, why is this or that happening to me? Correct answer: The only one to blame for any mess happening is – me.

Given the vast concentration on the individual and their ego, this is in sharp contrast to indigenous world views, as far as I know. So the claim of PoV integrating into indigenous belief systems is a sales argument. It is not primarily devised to draw an indigenous clientele, but to appeal to a Euro clientele: in taking these courses, we learn something which is similar to „Indian religion“.

Principles like no 3, „Anything that happens to us serves our purpose“, on the other hand is quite handy in case people do not get rid of problems, and this one serves to reinforce the individual's fault.

No 4, „No one can do anything to us that we are not already doing to ourselves“, again is a platitude, and it is dead wrong. The further explanation takes quite a different turn in claiming „No one can do to us that we are not also … doing to others“. Once more, the fault is with the individual and no one else.

Mixing in the issue of „leadership“ is probably nothing more but dangling the carrot in front of the donkey's nose: If you take these seminars, you will become a leader. The further explanation contends that „our best interests and the best interests of others are always the same“. Nope. It is my best interest to buy a decent used car for little money – while the car dealer's is interested in sending me off with a piece of junk I paid a fortune for. And this is just one example.

Pain and suffering are washed away by love and this stuff about a higher state of consciousness in which pain can no longer exist: Again the effort is with the individual. Do they feel enough love and forgiveness and advance to a higher state, or don't they – for which they will once more be held responsible (book another seminar).

Apart from all this, nothing in the principles reveals any psychological or psychotherapist method. On the other hand, they repeat one of the basic Nuage notions of the individual being responsible for their own advancement, and being the masters of their own fate. If there's anything they don't like, it's their own fault. This either puts an individual under an enormous stress of accepting everything and smiling happily at the same time, or feel like sh!t and book another seminar.

Subjecting survivors of mental, physical, or sexual harassment and violence to these principles is unethical and once more abusive. The principles will only tell them what happened effin served them right, and now forgive and smile, you're in the best of all possible worlds, and this world is of your own making and others only do to you what you bin doing to them yourself. Yecccchhh. Employing such principles on RS survivors is not going to improve their situation, it will rather endanger their health, thus not reducing problems for their communities, but multiplying and reinforcing problems.




Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 11, 2013, 08:44:23 pm
In UK - Ireland they are VisionWorks for Life http://visionworksforlife.com/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/)

In Japan Vision Dynamics Institute http://www.povj.jp/ (http://www.povj.jp/)

Uploaded here is a copy of their Trainer Application 2014. Applicants have to graduate from the 100 day program, teach a program, be in another program, pay a mentor a monthly fee, and be "able to maintain and pass on Miracles easily".

To graduate from the 100 day program: 3 apprenticeships, at least 1 in Hawaii. An apprenticeship is at least 20 days. A workshop day = 6 full hours. Plus other stuff. So looks like 100 day program = at least 600 hours (not including lunch and breaks) and coaching session time does not help with that total.

Also uploaded a copy of their trainer manual.

Lency Spezzano does a lot of arm waving, especially when she talks about "downloading".  Chuck says he has training in hypnosis, don't know if Lency does, but that is basically what she is doing. She is directing, dominating the session, pretending she is translating what the other person is saying which means Lency does most of the talking. She's in charge, this is her performance. She holds their hands and stares at them until they shake and cry. This is so boundary violating. So unethical. This has nothing to do with healing. This has everything to do with targeting vulnerable people and mesmerizing them into forking over more money and time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

The Spezzanos are acting like classic rainmaker con artists. A classic scam: A town experiencing drought is visited by charismatic con artists who claim they can make rain, they swindle everyone out of their money, and claim any coincidental success as their own and any failure is blamed on their targets.

The Spezzanos claiming they know what is best for First Nation communities is horrible.


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 12, 2013, 05:04:54 pm

Clinical vs Counselation Psychology

Spezzano sometimes is described as a „clinical psychologist“, while others claim he studied „counselling psychology“:

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm
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Chuck has a B.A. in Philosophy and Psychology from Duquesne University followed by a Masters in Sociology and a Ph.D. in Counselling Psychology from the United States International University. His professional background is in Counselling Psychology, Family Therapy, Short Term Crisis Intervention and Marriage, Family, and Child Counselling. He also worked as a psychologist at the Naval Rehabilitation Centre at the Miramar Air Station in San Diego , California , conducting thousands of therapy groups and individual sessions.

Same site, section „More Chuck biography“

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His next year was spent at Ridgefield, Connecticut at a novitiate, after which he took temporary vows and moved to Bethel Park Collegiate seminary, attending Duquesne University. After three and a half years he found that he no longer felt the calling to be a priest, and so he left the seminary, taking a second major in Psychology as well as Philosophy. He then graduated cum laude from Duquesne University with a Bachelor of Arts, went on for a Master’s Degree in Sociology in an experimental program that included Philosophy and Psychology, while studying Sociology from an ecologic point of view. Duquesne University is the home of existential phenomenology in the U. S., which is where humanistic psychology began.

Chuck also became part of a team at the Rehab Center teaching military personnel to become paraprofessional counselors in an effort to combat drug abuse and to help drug abusers. It was during this time that he graduated with his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology.

http://www.mymedworld.cc/chuckspezzano.html

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From 1980 to 1991, he worked in marriage, family, and educational counsellation.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencySpezzano.htm
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Lency received her BSc (Honours) and MSc degrees in Rehabilitation Counselling in 1975 and 1976 from the University of Arizona. She has designed and administered numerous rehabilitation agencies, training programs and treatment facilities, including the Hawaii Centre for the Deaf and HUGS for Hawaii's seriously ill children and their families.

There are several German websites mentioning a doctorate or degree in clinical psychology:

http://www.robert-betz-shop.de/wenn-alle-menschen-freunde-waeren-p-52188.html

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Chuck Spezzano holds an M.A. In sociology and earned his doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979, he was a psychologist at „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ and had considerable success treating war traumata in Vietnam veterans. Subsequently, he worked in marriage and family counselling

http://www.michaelditsch.de/koerper-psyche/chuck-lency-spezzano.html

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Chuck Spezzano has a B.A. In philosophy and psychology of Duquesne University, an M.A. In sociology, and earned a PhD in clinical psychology from United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he was a psychologist at the „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ at Miramar Air Station in San Diego and had considerable success treating war traumata of Vietnam veterans.

http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=112
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Chuck Spezzano, Ph. D.
clinical psychologist and visionary, consultant and bestseller autor.
Chuck and his wife Lency are the founders of the Psychology of Vision POV, a transpersonal model of healing that employs cutting edge psychological tools and methodology, and wields the miracle power of grace. POV centers around three core elements: relationships, leadership (answering the calls for help) and nondenominational spiritual development.

Lency Spezzano, M. S.
Relationship therapist and author.
She has created and evolved the Joining method, which uses grace to release participants from their inner suffering, connect them with the divine, and carry them into spiritual awakening.


While one might put this down to German Nuagers not knowing too much English, the same claim is also made in the author's portrait with his German publishers. Spezzano has been published by several companies owned by Random House which in turn is owned by Bertelsmann Group (Heyne, Goldmann, Riemann, Kamphausen, Integral).
The eldest available book at Amazon.de I found for one of the Random House companies was published in 2002.

http://www.randomhouse.de/Autor/Chuck_Spezzano/p105313.rhd?pub=8000

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Chuck Spezzano has a master in sociology and earned a doctorate in clinical psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. Between 1973 and 1979 he worked at „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ as a psychologist and had considerable success treating war traumata of Vietnam war veterans. Afterwards, he worked in the field of marriage and family counselling.

A British student of Spezzano's POV – and practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming claiming to have cured her brain tumour with these techniques – also repeats the claim of Spezzano being a clinical psychologist:

Arielle Essex: Compassionate Coaching: How to Heal Your Life and Make Miracles Happen, June 2004

page 9

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Clinical psychologist, Dr Chuck Spezzano and his wife Lency Spezzano inspired me so much with their specialist work on relationships that I became one of their advanced trainers and studied with them for ten years.“


Perhaps there were - errm: a few problems due to him claiming to be a clinical psychologist, so bios have largely (but not all) been updated.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 12, 2013, 07:29:33 pm
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It’s important to note the techniques in play here. Notice how Lency leads, and adopts the physical posture first. She begins the shaking, holding her face in a kind of rictus. As someone who is the centre of control, the power dynamics here matter: she is the leader of this group of about 30 people (I’m estimating from the video). For the seminars that these folk put on, the participants have likely paid a pretty penny just to be there.

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This is, at best, an unintentional scam, where Chuck and Lency Spezzano are making large sums of money of something that just happens to have no connection to reality at all. I, however, don’t think that this is unintentional. The thing is, when you believe your own bullshit, you put your money where your mouth is. The Spezzano’s are, I think, quite happy to simply accept the money of others rather than actually substantiate their claims.

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These victims (and they are victims) have done nothing less than any else would do, if we were set up with false beliefs and led down this path. The person at fault here is certainly not the victim: it is the scam artist who takes the money, who sets people up to fail, and then says that any failure is on you, and not them. This is a combination of scapegoating (the scam-artist deflects the blame for the failure of their system onto someone else) and victim-blaming (the “someone else” is the person they scammed).

All in all, I think the world would be a better place if the Spezzano’s were involved in some kind of legitimate practice, but so long as people are prepared to believe that they’re getting a good deal if someone pulls faces at them for $400, they’re going to keep making money.

Above quotes from Taking Advantage of Seeking a Better Life http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/#more-7200 (http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/#more-7200)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on September 12, 2013, 10:15:46 pm
I am really baffled by something.  How could Mr. Spezzano get a Ph.D from an university which apparently does not give out Ph.D.'s?  http://www.usiu.ac.ke/index.php?page=108

I realize that 36 years have elapsed since he supposedly received his Ph.D. in 1977, but it does seem strange to me that an organization that at one time gave out Ph.D.s now would only offer bachelors and masters degrees.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 12, 2013, 10:26:24 pm

So there are courses free of charge for First Nations? Well, guess what I just found....
This is a Newsletter from November 2012 of the Adams Lake Band of the Secwepemc Nation in British Columbia:

http://www.adamslakeband.org/sites/default/files/Nov_8_12_News_Weekly.pdf.

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The Path ofSpirit
With Susan How
November 17, 18th, 2012
At Adams Lake Recreation & Conference Centre Chase, BC

The Path of Spirit workshop will be a reminder
that you are ultimately spirit -a child of God.
When you have the realization that you are
spirit you realize that the only thing that can
stop you is you. As spirit you abandon the ego
and know yourself as forever blessed.
This workshop will be about embracing spirit as
your path to seeing how your life unfolds in
the most positive way.

Susan How is a Level II Psychology of Vision Trainer.

She has been actively involved with Chuck and Lency Spezzano and their Psychology of
Vision model since the early 80s. Over the years Susan has developed her natural gifts of empathy,
intuition, compassion, and humour and she brings these gifts to her workshops. Susan's gentle
approach to healing creates a safe atmosphere in which people can blossom.

The Psychology of Vision is a visionary healing model developed by Chuck and Lency. It offers a
practical system based on love and healing that maps the challenges we face in different stages of
our lives, and provides solutions needed to get through them. It is being taught worldwide in 13
countries including First Nations Communities in Canada.

For more information on Psychology of Vision and Chuck and Lency Spezzano go to
www.psychologyofvision.com and www,chuckandlencyspezzano. com

Registration at 9:30am Saturday morning
Workshop starts at "• 10am - 5pm daily

Registration: $150.00 per person or $250.00 for 'couples'
Cheques made payable to "Kelmuc Circle of Friendship Society"
<**Lunches provided to participants each day (notify IF any food allergies by the 12th)***
***Please bring your own water bottles as water will be available on site.***

Apparently, the Secwepemc Nation is quite being targeted by charlatans and quacks – the newsletter carries further ads:

a) By one Michael Duhaime selling „Transformational and Esoteric Acupuncture“ for $ 60 per appointment with these claims:
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It has long been useful to change one's experience of pain and discomfort into easier and healthier states of being. What is maybe less well understood is that chronic conditions are rooted in the subconscious realms of one's being. Whether it be insomnia, digestion difficulties, emotional or physical pain, menstrual difficulties, headaches, migraines, relationship difficulties, or whatever other physical presentation of disharmony, the more one resists the message from the subconscious, the longer and more complex the symptoms as the situation becomes chronic.

While Duhaime quite correctly says „esoteric“, his claims include treatment of severe disease and conditions. There is also a small print paragraph – and surprise!:

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Michel completed his diploma in Traditional Chinese Medicine in 2000, acquiring a set of medical skills that have since been complemented with other studies in Western herbal medicine, Shiatsu, Ki Aikido, Emotional Freedom Technique, Psychology of Vision, and esoteric and transformational acupuncture.
His current practice focuses on the exploration of the mind body spirit conti-nuum,
specifically addressing chronic pain and illness as opening windows into the deeper
realms of the subconscious mind.

b For a two-day seminar on „Child Trauma & Attachment“ at $ 300 per person for early registrants, regular fee $ 400

and c) one Oonna Cameron selling Reiki sessions with no price tag provided in the ad.

At the same time, the newsletter announces events scheduled for swapping used clothes and household items, a xmas donation draw, and a guide to Household Recycling – and this:

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Just Got Paid and I Don't Have Any Money Left

Community Futures, budget specialist, Dale Tomma (LSIB member) will be at ALIB in November to do one on one budgeting sessions with interested community members; she will share creative ideas with you so that there is money left at the end of the month. Each session will be no more than half an hour


The latest Newsletter dd Sep 12, 2013 carries another POV ad for a „Step to Leadership“ program consisting of 30 modules.

Step to Leadership programm (STL) consisting of 30 modules
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Registration fee is $ 2,000 per person
registration includes books, the 1 day workshop, the 2 day workshop and registration fee for the 3 day workshop
Registration is to be paid in full prior to the beginning of the program.
Payments are to be made to M Joyce Manuel, 5680 THC, Chase, BC V03 1M3

The two-day workshop is done by „susan“ (pres. Susan How), the three-day ws by „chuck“.

Can. $ 2,000 = € 1,456.35 EUR  , US$ 1,933.59 USD

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What participants will receive through this program?
The conscious, subconscious and unconscious aspects of our minds
Clear explanations, exercises, guided visualizations, videotapes and audiotapes
Examine the dynamics of your life in a safe and supportive environment
Discover your power to step beyond being a victim or a victimizer
Find practical ways to inspire your friends and family, and be a leader in the world

There are some red flags in these claims. If you are promised „clear explanations“, this usually indicates a black-and-white view of the world is being taught, we vs them. „Guided“ visualisations can also be a means to ensure participants have exactly those insights they are supposed to have. The text also equals victims to victimizers – for persons having suffered from being victimized, this will be hard stuff. Participants are also expected to „inspire“ family and friends, in other words: draw more participants.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Ingeborg on September 12, 2013, 10:29:59 pm
I am really baffled by something.  How could Mr. Spezzano get a Ph.D from an university which apparently does not give out Ph.D.'s?  http://www.usiu.ac.ke/index.php?page=108

Because that's a different university:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliant_International_University

http://www.alliant.edu/asm/about-asm/history-mission-asm.php

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on September 12, 2013, 10:42:54 pm
I am really baffled by something.  How could Mr. Spezzano get a Ph.D from an university which apparently does not give out Ph.D.'s?  http://www.usiu.ac.ke/index.php?page=108

Because that's a different university:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliant_International_University

http://www.alliant.edu/asm/about-asm/history-mission-asm.php

Ah!  Thanks, Ingeborg
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 12, 2013, 11:46:41 pm
The main organization contact for the Hawaii Forgiveness Project is Michael North. Spezzano is also active in this.

Michael North and Spezzano are also leads in the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute.

Michael North states on his LinkedIn page that he was advisor to Spezzano's business Psychology of Vision UK 2004 – 2010 http://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth (http://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth)

Spezzano, along with Michael North, and Mary Buffett do events in China for Chinese investors, I included a clip here of a translated 2010 event page. The workshop is described as "Principles of Chinese philosophy and tradition" as applied to modern financial investments.



http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Chuck_Spezzano (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Chuck_Spezzano)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Michael_North (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Michael_North)


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 13, 2013, 03:48:31 pm

   To become an "advanced Trainer" in his organization you have 100 plus days of his "training" and to join or become a "oneness dheeksha blesser".this is also a recognized cult in the U.S.A.


Spezzano says he was "enlightened" in 2007 at Oneness University. And now in his trainings people are taught to do that type of blessing. This is yet another red flag of warning about Spezzano's activities.

Oneness University (the name changes as does the founder often change his own name and self designated spiritual titles) is a large ongoing scam. People are charged quite a bit of money in a chase for enlightenment. They are mistreated. Former devotees claim that at one time they were drugged in order to produce a bliss experience. Many people ended up needing crisis mental health help.

The founder periodically makes apocalyptic type predictions, none of which have come true. And at times he has done large group "enlightenments", which is possibly what Chuck experienced.

Devotees even offered blessings via phone, for a price.

Severe Problems with "Bhagavan Kalki's" Deeksha Oneness Movement: http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html (http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html)

Oneness University: http://www.onenessuniversity.org/ (http://www.onenessuniversity.org/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 13, 2013, 07:51:16 pm
Chucks says he is a kahuna:

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In my initiation ceremony as a kahuna I was given a fish to eat that in Hawaiian also means THE SOURCE reminding me where my strength and nurturing comes from. If you remember THE SOURCE you can't remember any problem or pain. Have a great day!

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-source.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-source.html)

In his book "Friends Helping Friends" he has a section on Ho’oponopono

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/draft-excerpt-from-dr-chuck-spezzano.html?q=kahuna (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/draft-excerpt-from-dr-chuck-spezzano.html?q=kahuna)

Huna, Ho'oponopono, and other fake "Hawaiian" teachings: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3838.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3838.0)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 14, 2013, 07:26:03 pm
Unity, a Christian new thought organization, is going through major turmoil because of infiltration by the Oneness Movement, the same movement that the Spezzanos train people in.

Brainwashing In Action: Updated: http://dougbottorff.com/2013/09/14/brainwashing-in-action/ (http://dougbottorff.com/2013/09/14/brainwashing-in-action/) (Update: Blog post and comments are no longer available)

This blog post includes mention of our work here at NAFPS. Comments are worth reading too.

(An updated compilation here: http://dougbottorff.com/oneness-movement-insights-and-testimonials/ (http://dougbottorff.com/oneness-movement-insights-and-testimonials/) )



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: debbieredbear on September 14, 2013, 08:00:07 pm
That's just creepy!Especially since a good friend was involved with deeksha. Fortunately, I knew it wouldn't last long, because with her, she gets bored easily. I never went to any of the things she invited me to go to, but every other word out of her mouth for awhile was deeksha this or that. I am so glad that she is now involved in healthier things.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on September 15, 2013, 12:18:56 am
Unity, a Christian new thought organization, is going through major turmoil because of infiltration by the Oneness Movement, the same movement that the Spezzanos train people in.

Brainwashing In Action: Updated: http://dougbottorff.com/2013/09/14/brainwashing-in-action/ (http://dougbottorff.com/2013/09/14/brainwashing-in-action/)

This blog post includes mention of our work here at NAFPS. Comments are worth reading too.

Yes, the comments are interesting:

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Incidentally, I updated the posting to include the fact that the woman receiving the deeksha is the Chief of a Native Indian tribe. The Oneness cult is infiltrating them as well, even getting government funding to promote their ongoing scam.

The woman in the video with Lency Spezzano:  http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/  How unethical can you get?  You take someone who has been involved with your organization since 1991 and is now a Level 1 "trainer" and put on this performance for the audience pretending like you are getting a "download" to heal all past wounds. 
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 16, 2013, 03:55:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aPN1y2XnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aPN1y2XnI)

About 6:32 in video, Chuck says that he got a thank you letter from "one of my Japanese students" who wrote that because he follows Chuck's relationship teachings, his "wife had gone up two bra sizes". Chuck delivers this with a straight face and then tells us that this could be a possibility, that a physical form could change.




Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 16, 2013, 04:12:25 pm
Received this info, the source wants to be confidential for now, I'm paraphrasing:

In the past there have been disagreements between Chuck and other people he worked with. They had strict rules that there should be no sexual or romantic contact between teachers and students - Chuck would not uphold that.

Chuck was charismatic, people liked him, especially women. He set himself up as a guru type with mystical knowledge of students' past lives - this also was in opposition to the goals of others he worked with.

Chuck has a large cult following in Taiwan, and some in Japan, that is where most of his money comes from.

They don't know if he actually has a doctorate, they never saw it. They also don't know if he is properly licensed even if he does have it.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Odelle on September 17, 2013, 06:59:17 am
As Piff mentioned, Spiritual Ocean International Group organizes the Singapore, Taiwan and China classes. The group also seems to have a monopoly on representing and setting up classes for POV in both Taiwan and Mainland China, see below. SOI seems to be quite big, with all kinds of classes (not sure all are POV) offered all over Asia. Their angle seems to be promoting POV as a way to become a better sales person or do better in business. The titles of many of their classes seem to directly imply that POV can make you rich. More interesting, though, is the fact that POV has a history in Taiwan dating back to the 80's. I'm guessing the Spezzanos have made a lot of money!

From Baike, a Wikipedia-like site:http://baike.baidu.com/view/733134.htm

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?????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????Spiritual Ocean International Education Group holdings: SOI Consulting Corporation, Ltd.; Miracle Enterprise Management Consulting Corp. Ltd.; Life Master In'tl Training Company, Ltd.; Heaven on Earth Int'l Company, Ltd.; PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION [emphasis mine] Int'l Stock Company, Ltd.

??1989?11?20??????????????????????????????????????????????
You Mingyu and Wang Tingrong, husband and wife, established the Miracle Enterprise Management Consulting Company, Ltd. (has stock) on November 20th, 1989. ([Basically, just part of another entity, the Miracle Int'l Training Organization])

????????????????????????Dr.Chuck Spezzano ? Lency Spezzano?????P.O.V?Psychology of Vision?????????????
??In the same year [author seems unsure, so has ?? before "same year"], they acquired the sole rights to represent Psychology of Vision, established by Chuck Spezzano, Ph. D. and Lency Spezzano in Taiwan!

.... [Also mentions that they do work with Brian Tracy, and have established a lot of other companies.]

??2001?9??????????????????????????????????
In September of 2001, they developed the International Organization for the international POV Research Series and also set up the POV Int'l Company Ltd.

??2001?10????????????????????????????????????????
In October of 2001, they expanded into Mainland China to develop the motivational training market, establishing the Spiritual Ocean Training Technique Consultancy (Shanghai) Company, Ltd.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 17, 2013, 04:21:20 pm
As Piff mentioned, Spiritual Ocean International Group organizes the Singapore, Taiwan and China classes. The group also seems to have a monopoly on representing and setting up classes for POV in both Taiwan and Mainland China, see below. SOI seems to be quite big, with all kinds of classes (not sure all are POV) offered all over Asia. Their angle seems to be promoting POV as a way to become a better sales person or do better in business. The titles of many of their classes seem to directly imply that POV can make you rich. More interesting, though, is the fact that POV has a history in Taiwan dating back to the 80's. I'm guessing the Spezzanos have made a lot of money!

Lency shows off their "beach place" in Hawaii, a condo, looks to be owned not just leased. The painting she highlights is by Spar Street http://www.sparstreet.com/HTML/theartist.html (http://www.sparstreet.com/HTML/theartist.html). This might be the artist also of all the paintings Chuck Spezzano stand in front of during various videos. The Spezzanos are listed as private collectors of his work http://www.sparstreet.com/HTML/collectors.html (http://www.sparstreet.com/HTML/collectors.html). Unless the Spezzanos get a discount, my guess is that these commissioned pieces are pricey.

(later addition: Chucks videos were filmed by Noni Films and Media at Spar Street's gallery on Maui http://nonifilms.com/2010/04/01/presenting-a-new-web-series-change-your-mind-change-your-heart-change-your-life/ (http://nonifilms.com/2010/04/01/presenting-a-new-web-series-change-your-mind-change-your-heart-change-your-life/) )

From a neighborhood board meeting in 2003:

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Conditional Use Permit, Dr. Spezzano, Waihee Place - Luersen moved, seconded by Kaluhiwa that Kahaluu Neighborhood Board No. 29 support the Conditional Use Permit (CUP) given the statements that have been made tonight about the restrictions that have been placed on it, and  would include no more than ten times a year, no more than fifty people, no sleeping on site other than the resident house, maximum of fifteen cars on site at one time, the structure itself not be expanded beyond the staircase and the exterior lanai. The motion carried 8-0-0.

http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm (http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm)

Chamber of Commerce listing for Spezzano & Associates Ltd http://www.chamberofcommerce.com/kaneohe-hi/32602223-spezzano-associates-ltd/ (http://www.chamberofcommerce.com/kaneohe-hi/32602223-spezzano-associates-ltd/)

Their home and property (2 acres) in Kaneohe, Hawaii is assessed at $696,100. http://www.honolulupropertytax.com/Forms/Datalets.aspx?mode=PROFILEALL&sIndex=0&idx=2&LMparent=20 (http://www.honolulupropertytax.com/Forms/Datalets.aspx?mode=PROFILEALL&sIndex=0&idx=2&LMparent=20)

The Spezzanos don't seem to think highly of all the people they get so much money from, these quotes from Lency:

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I'm still in the research stage with this, but it appears that in the Psychology of Vision seminars, and in private sessions, we are able to lead people into enlightenment.

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My husband and I are currently working with a group of 90 people in Guangzhou China. Most of them are beginners to my work, so it will be interesting to see how far I can get with them. They are keen to get enlightened, but their level of maturity is low.

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I did the first annihilation process with the Chinese group, and despite being new to the work, they did very well. As well as a group of Buddhist monks and nuns in Taiwan, and better than the Japanese and Germans I have done the process with.

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Seminar participants in China are an interesting mix of people. More billionaires as well as mafia dons than we see in any other place.

http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity (http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity)

I emailed POV and asked what shamans Chuck studied with, as that is one of his claims, I did get a reply that my email would be forwarded to him, and that he is in Cologne Germany and probably won't be able to respond for awhile. :) Although surely a response with the names of those shamans would be easy enough to send.

(update) In that neighborhood board info, concerning a conditional use permit:

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3) The existing barn is currently used as the headquarters for their worldwide networking in the field of Inner Healing.


My bolding there for yet another clue. "Inner Healing" is a controversial counseling movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Healing_Movement
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Healing_Movement)



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 18, 2013, 04:34:43 pm
For anyone researching this Chuck Spezzano, be aware that is can be easy to confuse records for him with that of another Dr. Charles Spezzano. Even some library records confuse the two, and assume they are the same person.

Our Chuck Spezzano is Charles Lee Spezzano, he does use Dr. in some public records. He was born in 1948.

There is also a Dr. Charles Joseph Spezzano, a psychologist, born 1949. Different person than who we are researching here.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 19, 2013, 05:51:55 pm
I think the Spezzanos and their inner circle are making a lot of $. There are so many trainers, spin off groups under various names, in so many countries - it would be interesting to see what financial researchers come up with concerning all these interlocking businesses in so many jurisdictions.

One of their businesses Vision Works for Life in the UK, led by Jeff and Sue Allen:

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All our facilitators have taken a minimum of 70 days training in Psychology of Vision (PoV), including a 10-day workshop with PoV founders Chuck and Lency Spezzano.
http://visionworksforlife.com/pov-and-visionworks/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/pov-and-visionworks/)

Sue Allen runs Vision Works for Schools, aiming to get "Emotional Intelligence principles" into schools. http://www.vision-works.net/who-we-are.php (http://www.vision-works.net/who-we-are.php)


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 23, 2013, 12:13:58 am
Information from people who have attended these workshops:

When you enter the venue you must sign a waiver that states POV is not responsible for anything that happens to you. Doesn't matter if you have health challenges or not. You sign this, everyone already present witnesses this and also signs it, then you get a name tag and are allowed in.

Next everyone is supposed to "dance to the music". There is peer pressure to dance, and the dancing continues til Chuck and Lency show up. Chuck and Lency sit in nice cushy chairs, in front of the audience, whose chairs are arranged in a horseshoe shape. Where exactly you are seated is supposed to be symbolic of various issues you are unconscious of - such as birthing, death, "deep rooted chronic", etc.

There is also a chair for a participant chosen to be the "group mind". Everyone is supposed to listen to what they say, because as the Spezzanos claim "There is only one of us here".

Before the public workshop even begins the Spezzanos meet in private with their trainers, they spend about an hour working them over emotionally, they "process" them, often this is very intense and emotional.

At the beginning of the workshop the trainers stand up front of the group and read the ground rules about confidentiality and commitments. You stand up to show agreement. You are reminded of these commitments during the entire event. You cannot attend part of an event, you have to be there for every day, all day, if it is three days, ten, whatever. You are pressured to stay in the room, told that if you get up and leave to use the washroom that you are in denial of your issues.

Everyone is paired off in a buddy system and given work to do with each other. Trainers keep scanning the room, looking for people to target and upset.

Chuck sometimes roams the room, stares at people to get them worked up.

Trainers work the room, massage people's shoulders, tap their backs, touch them, and whisper to them to get them upset and emoting.

Sometimes participants basically pass out, while several people are doing supposed body work on them, the participants end up screaming, vomiting, going into delirious laughter (which is supposedly "bliss" - the goal)

A trainer held a participant and tapped their throat area hard while whispering that they needed to let go, the person was sore for weeks after this treatment.

Some people have break downs and end up desperate and incoherent. Some behave aggressively flirtatious.

Chuck tells a lot of sexual jokes. He gestures with the mic as a penis, raising it up and down.  He also states with words and motions that if a woman opens her heart, her body will be open for sex.

Chuck has promoted gambling for after workshops as he claims participants' luck has improved.

There is a lot of pressure to keep taking workshops, keep paying, keep up to their standards.

Anyone who has critical questions is told they are in resistance and not doing the work.

Anyone who leaves the group is shunned and mistreated.



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: debbieredbear on September 23, 2013, 01:05:49 am
I had a chance to speak to my friend that was involved in deeksha. She was shocked by some of the things I told her, but wasn't overly surpised in a funny way. She said she started feeling uneasy about what was going on and couldn't put a finger on it, so to speak. Then she met her current partner. He has some issues: PTSD and some bipolar issues. He is also a bit hyperactive. But he is a decent guiy, doesn't drink, use drugs or abuse people. The leader of the local group demanded my friend not bring him. My friend said, wait a minute here, you are supposed to do healing and he needs healing! Nope, they said "It's him or us!" She chose her new friend and waived goodbye to that group. So much for "healing".
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Defend the Sacred on September 23, 2013, 09:03:10 pm
This sounds like the same, high-pressure manipulation and control techniques used by James Ray and the Rebirthing cults.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 02:37:49 am
The Spezzanos target mostly women, mostly 30 - 50 years old or so. Men are usually there because they have followed their wives and girlfriends, probably often thinking they are there to be supportive.

But men are really worked over in these sessions. Chuck states that the men represent missing brothers, fathers, grandparents, male offenders, bosses, etc. in the lives of the women.

When the Spezzanos have someone do a process, the participant chooses people in the group to represent various challenges in their lives. Men are almost always chosen to represent abuse issues.

The trainers are almost all female also.

The processing sessions are very orchestrated. Lots of touch, staring, emotional music, coercion, forced catharsis.

The Spezzanos use all sorts of manipulation techniques including hypnosis.

Communities have been left devastated, families have been broken up by this group.

Lency has said they have 52 trainers around the world. And I notice that trainers may use different names for their businesses, so far usually they do have some mention of Psychology of Vision on their web site, or Chuck and Lency Spezzano. With trainers paying annual fees to the Spezzanos, after all the $ they've already put out for the endless training, plus all the other income from people attending big events - the Spezzanos look to be making a fantastic amount of money.

The Spezzanos and their trainers are not doing anything helpful, healing, spiritual, mystical, or magical. They are running a huge con, using classic techniques.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 02:41:44 am
This sounds like the same, high-pressure manipulation and control techniques used by James Ray and the Rebirthing cults.

Sure looks that way. And just like those cults and related movements, I think there is a very real concern that someone could die at one of these sessions, what with the extreme pressure and mistreatment. I think some people probably end up feeling suicidal after also. I'm not saying this frivolously - people do get seriously messed over by large group awareness trainings like this.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 02:44:52 am
I had a chance to speak to my friend that was involved in deeksha. She was shocked by some of the things I told her, but wasn't overly surpised in a funny way. She said she started feeling uneasy about what was going on and couldn't put a finger on it, so to speak. Then she met her current partner. He has some issues: PTSD and some bipolar issues. He is also a bit hyperactive. But he is a decent guiy, doesn't drink, use drugs or abuse people. The leader of the local group demanded my friend not bring him. My friend said, wait a minute here, you are supposed to do healing and he needs healing! Nope, they said "It's him or us!" She chose her new friend and waived goodbye to that group. So much for "healing".

Glad she chose her guy over the group! :)

The Spezzanos most likely would have welcomed her friend, and then proceeded to seriously screw him over. He might have been chosen to represent abusive men for the event, not something that any man needs to go through.

They would have made his PTSD much worse - what with the whispering and touching and forced catharsis.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: debbieredbear on September 24, 2013, 04:08:22 pm
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He might have been chosen to represent abusive men for the event, not something that any man needs to go through.

They might have tried, but he wouldn't have put up with it! This guy is hard headed. LOL! And my friend would have been furious because she's protective of him. Oh, she gets mad at him and sends him home, but that's different then someone else treating him badly. Not that she treats him badly.

Also interesting that most of the group is women because I got the impression from the local bunch that they were mostly women too.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 06:13:18 pm
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The Spezzanos’ greatest inspirations come from A Course in Miracles and Oneness University.
http://povcanada.com/about-us/chuck-and-lency-biography/ (http://povcanada.com/about-us/chuck-and-lency-biography/)

Chuck says he was enlightened by the Oneness University. Oneness Movement is a scam, critique of it can be found here http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html (http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html) and elsewhere online. Part of the scam is oneness blessings/ deeksha. http://www.onenessuniversity.org/index.php/what-we-offer (http://www.onenessuniversity.org/index.php/what-we-offer) The Spezzanos do their own version of these blessings.

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Joining is an emotional healing exercise used for thousands of years in our human history. The Yogi's call it Gazing, in Psychology of Vision it is a very integral part of healing through love, and becoming emotionally mature.

Quote from Victoria Buffalo Robe, active in Psychology of Vision https://www.facebook.com/events/119594208160371/?ref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/events/119594208160371/?ref=nf)

An example of how they've made inroads in First Nations communities in Canada: this grant of $475,300.00 was supposed to aid residential school survivors, instead it further traumatized people by spreading Psychology of Vision trainings. http://www.ahf.ca/funded-projects/british-columbia/ngystle-society (http://www.ahf.ca/funded-projects/british-columbia/ngystle-society) All the directors of the group that got this grant are 100 plus day grads of the Spezzano trainings.

One of the many programs is Steps to Leadership - "made up of 30 modules: 27 three-hour modules and 3 full-day workshops".

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Steps to Leadership Facilitators

This 30-module course was written by Jeff Allen and is designed for use in small groups. The facilitators are people who feel strongly called to help others understand their lives through the Psychology of Vision model. They need not be trainers or 100-day graduates but must have completed a significant number of Psychology of Vision days, around 70, before being approved.
http://povcanada.com/introduction-to-trainers/ (http://povcanada.com/introduction-to-trainers/)

The Spezzanos specifically target communities. They go after leaders, who work (and pay) their way up the ladder of the POV hierarchy. Some of those leaders have control of finances, grant money, they influence dramatically their own tight knit communities.

The money making machines the Spezzanos have built is dizzying to research. A good antidote to all this b.s. is humor, this blogger is critiquing Lency Spezzano videos: http://www.mortythedog.com/search/label/Lency%20Spezzano (http://www.mortythedog.com/search/label/Lency%20Spezzano)

Warning signs of a potential unsafe group/leader http://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html (http://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html)

My guess is the Spezzanos will use the fact that public outrage is building as fuel for their own manipulation of followers, they will claim that this is evidence of dark forces allied against them, they will claim that everyone needs to do more processing in response.




Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 27, 2013, 06:50:16 pm
Lency Spezzano can be seen in videos telling people to focus on one of her eyes. A professional hypnotherapist looked this over and says that directing people to look into the eye, either right or left, is a stage hypnosis trick, and that Lency is nothing more than a stage hypnotist.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 28, 2013, 07:44:42 pm
There is a lot of horrifying material in these videos Lency Spezzano made and uploaded for our viewing pleasure on youtube. Fortunately it does give us a chance to see what the Spezzanos are doing, without having to give them all our money and suffer being in the same controlled environment with them.

In this video she gets her target to freak out, something I won't watch, but I want to point out what she does next. This phase starts about the 7 minute mark or so. Lency is in a silk top or dress that she occasionally readjusts. She has freaked out her male target, has his attention totally captured, she touches him, directs him to focus on her right eye, indicates with a hand gesture that she is going to turn around, then she slowly half stands and does this incredibly weird, arched back, sobbing, slow turn maneuver. While staying very close to him. She ends with her hand on his chest, and she adjusts her silk garment that has been falling off a shoulder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

What the heck is she doing? It is a weird sexualized seductive maneuver. Very creepy, so very unethical.

People who know American Sign Language, and have been to Spezzano events, say Lency has created her own ASL signs to instruct her followers. Advanced trainers are taught the sign for "joining". Lency also has specific hand gestures for "divine light coming through the brain", "brain net", her supposed experience of "downloading" and more.

The signs help Lency keep the audience focused, in the midst of their entranced stupor. The Spezzanos work to overload people's minds, once they achieve that, they can plant all the suggestions they want.

Something especially heinous they are doing is working to erase memories of residential school trauma in their subjects. Lency's Original Mind video is an example of this. No way should they be messing with people's memories. The Spezzanos are preying on traumatized people and then traumatizing them further.

The Spezzanos, by imposing their Psychology of Vision b.s. on First Nations peoples, hijack people out of their own family systems and support, while indoctrinating them with this artificial cultic system. Families are close, so when the Spezzanos focus on one or two members of a family or clan, they can then scoop up 10 or more members in record time.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on September 29, 2013, 03:26:21 am
Thanks, Piff.  Those videos are hard to watch.  I am sorry, but I only see a face of evil when I watch her, not a face of bliss or love.  It is truly sad that so many people have been taken in by them.

Just for the record, I have managed to get a copy of Chuck Spezzano's dissertation and this is what is on the cover page:

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THE WORDS THAT LOVE MADE--A POETIC PHENOMENOLOGY
OF THE POET'S EXPERIENCE OF BEING A POET
A Dissertation
Presented to the
Graduate Faculty of the
School of Human Behavior
United States International University
In Partial Fulfillment
of the Requirements for the Degree of
Doctor of Philosophy
in Professional Psychology
by
Charles Lee Spezzano
San Diego, 1977
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 29, 2013, 03:02:32 pm
Autumn, does that dissertation copy include the names of instructors who accepted (if they did accept) the dissertation? Very cool that you got a copy.

That "Doctor of Philosophy in Professional Psychology" looks to have been offered only by that university, in the past.

Here is a person who has that degree, but they have a "clinical specialization", and they do the right thing with not only being licensed to practice as a psychologist, they even tell us their license #:

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Doctor of Philosophy in Professional Psychology, Clinical Specialization, United States International University (Alliant University), San Diego, CA 1982 (Licensed Psychologist: CT License #1185)

http://www.bobdeutschphd.com/about_me/education.html (http://www.bobdeutschphd.com/about_me/education.html)

Chuck doesn't seem to be licensed to practice as a psychologist.

On Lency, yeah, horrible stuff.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 29, 2013, 04:52:43 pm
Chuck says he got his degree in 1977. That might be true, but I wonder if the school was accredited by the APA at that time. He says he attended United States International University (USIU). "During the 1970s, USIU became a center for humanistic psychology". In 2001, Alliant was formed by combining California School of Professional Psychology (CSPP) and USIU.
http://www.alliant.edu/about-alliant/history.php (http://www.alliant.edu/about-alliant/history.php)

But the APA says "Alliant International University—San Diego (PhD) (formerly listed as California School of Professional Psychology-San Diego)" was given the accredition date of May 6, 1980.

In comparison, the University of California, Los Angeles (PhD) Department of Psychology was accredited  Feb. 1, 1948.

http://www.apa.org/ed/accreditation/programs/clinical.aspx (http://www.apa.org/ed/accreditation/programs/clinical.aspx)


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on September 29, 2013, 07:32:52 pm
Autumn, does that dissertation copy include the names of instructors who accepted (if they did accept) the dissertation? Very cool that you got a copy.

That "Doctor of Philosophy in Professional Psychology" looks to have been offered only by that university, in the past.

Here is a person who has that degree, but they have a "clinical specialization", and they do the right thing with not only being licensed to practice as a psychologist, they even tell us their license #:

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Doctor of Philosophy in Professional Psychology, Clinical Specialization, United States International University (Alliant University), San Diego, CA 1982 (Licensed Psychologist: CT License #1185)

http://www.bobdeutschphd.com/about_me/education.html (http://www.bobdeutschphd.com/about_me/education.html)

Chuck doesn't seem to be licensed to practice as a psychologist.

On Lency, yeah, horrible stuff.

Yes, Piff, these are the names on the dissertation, as best I can make them out, all signed with the date of May 9, 1977:  Bernice R. Roberts, Paul F. Colayzi (or Colaijzi), William D. Wilkers (or Wilkens), and W. Ray Rucker.*

On his website, he says this:

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It was during this time that he graduated with his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology.

I don't want to make excuses for these two people, but it may be a case that they started out with good intentions and then got dazzled by the $$$$$, sex, and power.  Such a familiar story.

*Additional information on above names since he types these out on the acknowledgements page:  committee members Dean Ray Rucker and Dr. William Wilkins; Dr. Paul Colaizzi, friend and mentor; chairwoman, Dr. Bernice Roberts.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 29, 2013, 09:17:11 pm
Thanks Autumn! That checks out, for instance Winifred Ray Rucker Ed.D. was indeed Dean. So Chuck wrote the thesis, it was approved, he has a degree.

And I agree, Chuck and Lency might be two people who started out with good intentions, but then went seriously, horribly  astray. They are responsible for a lot of damage.

I wonder why they aren't publicly active on the mainland USA. They run expensive trainings at their home in Hawaii, but they don't look to be also doing seminars in LA, NYC, Denver, Seattle, or other places we might expect to see these types of seminars offered. Their Trainer Program Director, Francine Girard, lives near Seattle, but does events over the border in Canada.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 30, 2013, 01:26:47 am
Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst wrote "Healing The Body Through Mind And Metaphor" http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/ebooks/healing-the-body-through-mind-and-metaphor-by-chuck-spezzano-and-janie-ticehurst-download-version/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/ebooks/healing-the-body-through-mind-and-metaphor-by-chuck-spezzano-and-janie-ticehurst-download-version/)

(Update: most of these links are now dead)

In this book we are told that we have AIDS because:

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The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.

http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/AIDS.htm (http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/AIDS.htm)

And cancer because:

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Cancer is the embodiment of self-directed anger. It reflects a place of guilt and self-attack.

A traumatic situation with a significant other will have taken place between six and eighteen months before the onset of the cancer.

http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/Cancer.htm (http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/Cancer.htm)


http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm (http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm)

In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc) Chuck claims that he is largely responsible for the healing of someone whose "AIDS went to HIV and then completely disappeared".
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: debbieredbear on September 30, 2013, 01:46:44 am
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In this book we are told that we have AIDS because:


Quote
The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.



If that's true, then how is it babies have been born with it? Oh, waity, they must have chosen it.  :'( I hate this nuage bs, blames victims and gets paid for it.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on September 30, 2013, 11:32:07 pm
Here is an example of how determined the Spezzanos (and their trainers) are to colonize and scam First Nation communities:

Breaking the Silence and Healing the Legacy

The Breaking the Silence and Healing the Legacy community healing program allows a trained and qualified First Nation team to respond to the need for supporting First Nations Residential School Survivors to address the affects of the Legacy within their home communities instead of dealing with it in isolation. It provides the Residential School survivors the opportunity to empower themselves in choosing to heal past issues rather than living in constant pain. This program also encourages the Residential School survivors and their descendants who haven’t yet chosen to heal their pain, to attend to one of our healing workshops where they can witness the positive changes from those who do participate.

For those who choose to initiate or continue their healing journey, and have been affected by the Legacy, will benefit from this Program by empowering themselves and thus gaining the courage to address their painful Residential School experiences in the safest healing environment possible. They will have access to various healing tools that are offered by the non-denominational Psychology of Vision® healing model. The freedom and leadership to be embraced and shared from past survivors will in essence have a rippling effect within their respective communities. Thus creating a safer and healthier living environment for themselves, their children, grandchildren and the future generations.

This community healing/training is especially essential to those Residential School Survivors and their descendents who have chosen to use this program. We will teach and model the necessary holistic support, coaching and follow-up care in co-operation along with the provision of our mandatory community commitment that will ensure the training of specific frontline community workers, healthcare workers and community counselors that remain as supplementary community support people. It is our mandate to train key community support staff present in each community to ensure that all participants will have access to essential support services after we finish the training.

Our First Nations Trainers are trained in The Psychology of Vision® (POV) healing model which has proven effective in many cultures around the world – from England, Germany, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Taiwan, Canada and Africa.. The three major focuses of the model are relationship, leadership through accountability and finally non-denominational spirituality.

In 1991, Dr. Chuck Spezzano and his wife, Lency, who developed this transformational healing model, responded to requests from First Nations’ communities in British Columbia to donate their time and expertise to beging healing this painful Legacy. Since then they have presented one to two workshops a year in kind, organized by several BC First Nations communities like Haida Gwaii, Gitxsan Territory, Tsleil Waututh Nation and Willaims Lake. To date there are now dozens of First Nations here in British Columbia who have received the benefit of this training and now are fully qualified in using this healing model to now support and empower our people, thus the focus of this mandate – to send out a qualified FN Healing team to further the healing on the ground in our communities.

The POV healing model is about love, innocence, empowerment, accountability for our lives, and ‘response-ability’ to ourselves and others. It is about freeing both victims and victimizers from their pain and traps, finding the hidden gifts and talents blocked by such traps, and empowering people to become successful leaders and healers in their own right. This process driven healing model is also about problem solving and evolution; is a healing model that is not just about healing and repair, but also about vision, creativity and living one’s purpose.

For more information about this program, please contact:
Meyer's Consulting

Vancouver, BC

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf (http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 01, 2013, 10:21:58 pm
Once a person has spent quite a bit of money and time (including time spent being brainwashed) to advance to a trainer level, they must sign an agreement to pay annual license fees.  In 2011 these were the annual fees:

Level 1 $4500
Level 2 $6250
Level 3 $6700
Level 4 $7500
First Nations trainers $500

But that is not all. Trainers have to go to the annual 10 day trainers conference. No exceptions. If a trainer misses a full day of the conference, they are put on probation, and must do (pay for) more conferences within the next 6 months.

A trainer needs to be available to staff for workshops. They need to take additional training. At least once every two years they have to attend an apprenticeship training.

Trainers have to book monthly coaching sessions. They have to see their coach bi-monthly. They need to listen live to recorded quarterly conference calls with Chuch and Lency. They need to study the teaching materials. Complete 3 self evaluation reports a year. These reports must be on time, this fact is stressed in the manual.

They must promote all trainers, events, funds, and products. They must do specific daily "healing exercises".

The Steps to Leadership program must be taught once in full and solo by new trainers. The program and license must be bought from the appropriate division and monitored by that division.

Any "issues of commitment" to the team is said to "reflect issues in our family of origin that are not yet cleared".

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 01, 2013, 10:33:49 pm
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In this book we are told that we have AIDS because:


Quote
The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.



If that's true, then how is it babies have been born with it? Oh, waity, they must have chosen it.  :'( I hate this nuage bs, blames victims and gets paid for it.

I hate this nuage b.s. too. People get all twisted around and confused, vulnerable to predators like the Spezzanos who claim that they know exactly why we have cancer or other health challenges.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 02, 2013, 07:56:16 pm
On a flyer for a B.C., Canada event - A Three Day First Nations Workshop, Embracing our Spiritual Legacy, with Chuck Spezzano:

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What is our Legacy as First Nations people?
As First Nations people on the earth today, we have all promised to align with our Spirit. We have promised to share our gifts as Leaders inspired by Spirit, to awaken the Shaman in humanity.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on October 02, 2013, 08:31:24 pm
On a flyer for a B.C., Canada event - A Three Day First Nations Workshop, Embracing our Spiritual Legacy, with Chuck Spezzano:

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What is our Legacy as First Nations people?
As First Nations people on the earth today, we have all promised to align with our Spirit. We have promised to share our gifts as Leaders inspired by Spirit, to awaken the Shaman in humanity.

Translation:

We have all promised to align with our Spirit:  By sitting with Lency and "joining".
We have promised to share our gifts as Leaders inspired by Spirit:  By signing up for the expensive training Program.
To awaken the Shaman in humanity:  By continuing to spread the doctrine by getting friends and family involved.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 03, 2013, 02:01:32 am
Information from survivors:

Chuck does baptisms and marriages, he says he is a minister.

Chuck often asks questions like "Wouldn't you want to receive heavens grace?", questions most people would not want to say no to. He asks questions like this, and people find themselves saying yes to him again and again.

During trainings he has people stand up, and stand wherever he tells them. Whoever is the current focus person chooses who in the room will represent parts of their life. Chuck directs the focus person as they then walk from person to person. Everyone emotes and goes through a lot of misery. Chuck directs the entire thing. You do what he says.

Chuck claims that he has special powers that enable him to read cues. What finger your ring is on, how you tilt your head when you are thinking, your supposed karmic roles - Chuck is the grand interpreter, the god who knows what everything means.

There is no room for debate. Chuck is in charge and these sessions are all about breaking down our natural instincts to fight and defend.

Long, long hours of focus are used to wear people down until they give up.

People have ended up feeling absolutely crazy. Chuck will still push and push people to emote. People have described feeling suicidal, wanting to jump out windows in order to escape the hellish sound of so many people screaming and crying in a closed room.

People end up comatose on the floor.

Once home, some people have felt zoned out for a week or more, unable to think clearly, feeling disconnected from their family.

Chuck uses signature songs, such as In the Arms of an Angel, Into the Mystic, many of Sarah McLachlan's songs. He tailors his song list according to his targets. He has them played over and over again until people fall apart. People who have left this group report not being able to listen to these songs anymore without great distress.

There is an immense amount of pressure to keep with the "group mind".  Chuck tells people that they can stop wars and earthquakes with their group mind.  He tells people they must do group mind deposits in the group mind bank for peace and healing.

Often the focus person at these events crumples and falls to the ground, or freezes in place, or shakes and cries. This is traumatic to watch and everyone else in the room ends up crying harder. Just as Chuck wants.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 04, 2013, 05:54:16 pm
Francine Girard directs their training program. http://povcanada.com/trainers/francine-girard/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/francine-girard/) http://www.psychologyofvision.com/pov-usa/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/pov-usa/) She says was a private therapist for 15 years, but doesn't say where that happened. She lives in Washington state, USA, but does not show up on a WA health care provider license search for either Francine Girard or a marriage surname of Hovde. https://fortress.wa.gov/doh/providercredentialsearch/SearchCriteria.aspx (https://fortress.wa.gov/doh/providercredentialsearch/SearchCriteria.aspx)

Francine Girard was a rapid recruit and moved fast up the ladder. Former members report that this rapid rise was mysterious to them, as other members had been in the group longer, but were not allowed to rise as fast.

She lives in Everett, WA, but doesn't seem to do any trainings on mainland USA, nor does anyone else in POV.

A former member describes a 10 day workshop in Canada, where people had to do a special walk toward Francine, so she could determine if they had "succumbed to the bliss stage" yet. If Francine decided you weren't doing it right, you got sent to the back of the line.

At times Francine acts like Lency Spezzano.

Ruby Tang is also an important part of the Spezzano money making machine. She travels with Chuck extensively, is one of his main interpreters, and has had a big influence in recruiting Asian folks. She is based in Canada.

One of Chuck's long time partners in POV is Charles Campbell. He often is at Canadian events. He is an advanced trainer. http://povcanada.com/trainers/charles-campbell/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/charles-campbell/) Charles and Chuck often run an act together - Charles lays down on the floor and tries to sleep through trainings, Chuck then berates him for his "passive behavior". Since they do this often, it sounds like a purposeful act as part of the Spezzano show, intended to get points across to the audience.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 04, 2013, 06:04:36 pm
Babs Stevens is an example of the incredibly destructive inroads that Psychology of Vision is able to make into First Nations communities. She is chief administrative officer with the Skidegate Band Council, of the Haida Nation.

She is a trainer, and has recruited many into POV. In order to keep her trainer status she has to regularly go through trainings herself, trainings which includes practice in "self annihilation".

http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/)

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 04, 2013, 07:46:27 pm
On an old archived POV forum, when asked what literature inspired Psychology of Vision, Jeff responded that along with A Course in Miracles, principle books include Gifts of Unknown Things by Lyall Watson, and books by A. A. Attansio. Jeff is Jeff Allen, one of the very top people in POV. http://visionworksforlife.com/about-us/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/about-us/)

Lyall Watson is known for having made up part of the hundredth monkey story http://www.skepdic.com/monkey.html (http://www.skepdic.com/monkey.html)

A. A. Attansio writes fantasy and sci-fi stories http://www.aaattanasio.com/ (http://www.aaattanasio.com/) A recent tweet Attansio posted on his twitter feed "The truth we conceive is the deception we perceive."

Chuck tosses many religious and psychological systems into a blender, and mixes them up completely until they are a total mess. This includes his own versions of tarot, fantasy literature, Sufism, Hinduism, Judaic mysticism, and more.

Chuck directs people to stand in a certain arrangement in the room, fitting the shape of a pseudo Kabbalah Tree of Life. He then "processes" them through this design. He is following on the heels of other groups that have ripped off the Kaballah, notably Kabbalah Center International, whose group attracts famous people like Madonna.

In 2001 on a POV forum someone expressed concern about an ex-partner, mother of his child, who had joined the group. He reported that she now felt superior, spoke with the loaded language of a cult member, and was obsessed with the group. He wrote "she's working her ass off now for Mr Spedzanno's arrival in her country (The Netherlands) and of course the master will only arrive when there is enough money to be made".

Archives of an old POV site http://web.archive.org/web/20010722003547/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20010722003547/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/)


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 04, 2013, 11:28:17 pm
I've uploaded two clips here from POV archives 2001 on what the "mind bank" is according to Chuck.

Former members report that they are heavily pressured to engage themselves with this imaginary mind bank, they are told they have to do regular practices to keep it going.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 04, 2013, 11:31:34 pm
More clips from archives, these in a category labelled "Funds", along with a suggestion that people make donations.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 05, 2013, 02:19:29 am
http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

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In 1980 Chuck travelled to Vancouver, Canada for his first lecture. He began doing psychic development workshops up the west coast but by 1982 seeing the need he switched to only conducting healing workshops. He travelled frequently also to New England and then to Minnesota. In 1983 he was invited to Japan, the U. K. and Germany for the first time. By 1987 he was travelling regularly to Switzerland, the U. K., Japan, Canada and France.

In 1990 Chuck and Lency began travel to Taiwan for the first time, and in 1991 to Malaysia. In 1991 he and Lency met with Edna Brillon, a First Nations woman, and found they had the same vision about supporting First Nations Peoples.

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It was also at this time, 1991, that the Psychology of Vision model was given its name by Chuck. And while their work has gone beyond human and shamanic vision into spiritual vision and higher consciousness, the name Psychology of Vision, or POV, holds a dear place in their hearts.

So this is how Chuck presents the history of his group. He's been at these fraud schemes for awhile now.

In his July/Aug 2000 newsletter, Chuck laid out his plans to expand across the mainland USA.

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My book tour through Orange County, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland and Seattle was exhilarating and successful.

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A new company called LLC has been established to begin operations in North America. Lency and I are planning some talks and a one day workshop in Orange County in September before the Canadian weekend at the end of the month. A few years ago I was inspired to reopen the US after years of traveling internationally but we have not had time in our busy schedules to allow for this before now.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010722003547/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20010722003547/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/)

But they don't look to be active on the mainland USA now at all, I wonder why.

A Canadian Child and Family Psychologist was active with POV for years, former members say they saw her at many workshops. Dr. Barbara Ann Marcus Perks is now on retired status with the College of Psychologists of British Columbia (they regulate the profession), meaning she is not currently licensed for active practice.

From 2007:

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Dr. Barbara Perks is a Child and Family Psychologist who has worked in schools and private practice with children, parents, and staff. She is a member of College of Psychologists of British Columbia and a member of the College of Teachers of British Columbia.

She has a Bachelor of Science in Education and Psychology from Pennsylvania State University, a Masters of Arts in Developmental Psychology from Columbia University, and a Doctorate in Counselling Psychology and Child Psychology from the University of British Columbia.

Barbara, a POV Advanced Trainer, has been part of the Psychology of Vision community since January 1990. She works with the energy of bliss and joy through a healing method.

Courses: Teaching Steps to Leadership -POV, courses for young children and teenagers.

http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?archive_id=0&page_id=606272817&page_url=//www.psychologyofvision.com/Facilitator_bio.asp?id=88&page_last_updated=2007-10-29T03:31:04&firstName=Barbara&lastName=Perks (http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?archive_id=0&page_id=606272817&page_url=//www.psychologyofvision.com/Facilitator_bio.asp?id=88&page_last_updated=2007-10-29T03:31:04&firstName=Barbara&lastName=Perks)

Personally, I find this mind boggling, that a psychologist would ever involve themselves with POV.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 05, 2013, 05:04:36 pm
Top POV trainers Jeff and Sue Allen are very active, on the workshop circuit, in schools, and in charities such as Vision Zambia.

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We all seek happiness. In fact, all our actions and behaviours are dedicated to this end. So why do we get so off-course? Vision Works for Life is based on the Psychology of Vision model, a path of the heart that has helped tens of thousands of people around the world improve their lives. Whatever challenges you, if you’re ready to expand your horizons and remove the blocks that stand in your way to a more meaningful future, VisionWorks for Life can help you too.

http://visionworksforlife.com/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/)

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Psychology of Vision is a complete programme for change developed over 30 years of working with people all around the world.  Life Manual is a personal study programme based on this model, to guide you through changing your life. Working through carefully designed exercises, you use the full range of tools that have made this life change model so successful in transforming behaviours and attitudes.

http://www.pov-lifemanual.com/ (http://www.pov-lifemanual.com/)

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VisionWorks teaching programmes equip young people with the key life skills that underpin a happy and successful life.


http://www.vision-works.net/index.php (http://www.vision-works.net/index.php)

Jeff Allen http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/jeff-allen/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/jeff-allen/)
Sue Allen http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/sue-allen/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/sue-allen/)

A tag line often seen on Psychology of Vision materials is "friends helping friends".

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 05, 2013, 10:11:56 pm
Former members report that Chuck's teachings tell people dealing with sexual abuse that they should ask themselves "What is the gift it brought you?" Chuck teaches that a child who was sexually molested attracted that to their life for a reason, to make them feel special, and as if they were giving the gift of Love.

At times Chuck teaches that one way being abused is a gift, is that the abuse gives people the power to rebel and reject family members, so they could become independent and run their own lives how they want. It made them become special.

Chuck leads abuse survivors to believe that as children they manipulated these abuses to happen to them.
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Also reported is an apparent  high rate of serious car accidents experienced by both followers of Chuck Spezzano/ Psychology of Vision and also by Erick Gonzalez's devotees. Former members think this may be because they are taught to do a lot of zoning and spacing out. They have been so messed with that their judgement and reaction time abilities are seriously screwed.

A POV member along with his children were killed in a serious car accident in B.C. At the next POV workshop in Vancouver, Canada, Chuck and Lency kept a tight grip on the surviving wife, used the family tragedy as a way to "process" participants, and the woman "didn't have a chance in hell to escape how POV would next affect her life forever".

Several top trainers have been in serious car accidents.

A VP of Erick Gonzalez's group also was in a bad car accident. She was active with POV for several years and then branched off doing many psycho active drug retreats with Gonzalez.
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One of the many sources Chuck Spezzano seems to draw upon is Bert Hellinger's Family and Systemic Constellation methods. Chuck doesn't credit this, but there are very strong parallels. Hellinger's business looks to be yet another training seminar scheme. Some people on the Nuage marketplace list both in their bios http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php (http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php)

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POV teaches people to fear attack, to believe that they are being attacked by dark forces, and to do practices to supposedly prevent attack. POV followers always have to be mindful that supposedly they are always trying to sabotage their own selves from the inside, also that there is outside danger. And as far as I can tell, according to Chuck, if you are actually in danger from the outside, this is probably because you drew it to your self. In other words, you are to blame. Trust no one, only POV.

In the Jan 2010 newsletter, Chuck wrote:

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It seems most of us dodged the bullet that came at us in December. Yet, now there is almost a steady stream of attack going on – vicious ego attack, astral attack, fear of change attacks, fear of loss attacks, ignorance and prejudicial attack.


Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on October 05, 2013, 11:58:56 pm
One of the many sources Chuck Spezzano seems to draw upon is Bert Hellinger's Family and Systemic Constellation methods. Chuck doesn't credit this, but there are very strong parallels. Hellinger's business looks to be yet another training seminar scheme. Some people on the Nuage marketplace list both in their bios http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php (http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php)

Their "training" sounds like a living hell to me, and what kind of training is this?

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I lived in Hawaii with Chuck, Lency Spezzano and their family (founders of Psychology of Vision) as part of the training.
(bolding mine)

http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 06, 2013, 12:54:24 am
One of the many sources Chuck Spezzano seems to draw upon is Bert Hellinger's Family and Systemic Constellation methods. Chuck doesn't credit this, but there are very strong parallels. Hellinger's business looks to be yet another training seminar scheme. Some people on the Nuage marketplace list both in their bios http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php (http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php)

Their "training" sounds like a living hell to me, and what kind of training is this?

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I lived in Hawaii with Chuck, Lency Spezzano and their family (founders of Psychology of Vision) as part of the training.
(bolding mine)

http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php

Living with the Spezzanos as part of the training - so that could mean they have people working for them, without proper salary. She might have had to work for them, unpaid, and even have to pay for the privilege at the same time. I don't know her specific situation, but it does happen as a matter of course in Nuage circles.

Plus this is so unethical. More evidence of how the Spezzanos do everything they can to bust through healthy boundaries.

The Spezzanos claim they are doing a type of healing psychology, but they forgot the part about how there are supposed to be clear boundaries between client and health care provider.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 06, 2013, 01:53:58 am
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A 2001 event The 10 Day Canadian Psychology of Vision International Training
We will be joined by First Nations participants as many aboriginal communities are embracing the Psychology of Vision as a healing model. The First Nations people bring their native spirituality and traditions to the training and their presence adds depth to the workshop process.
Professional, well-trained staff including many students of the Psychology of Vision Advanced Training program.

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/psychologyofvision/10DAY2001.html (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/psychologyofvision/10DAY2001.html)

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About 10 years ago Chuck & Lency were inspired to work more closely with First Nations people. The POV Healing Model has been graciously welcomed in many First Nation communities, as it aligns with many First Nations belief systems. Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet.
http://povcanada.com/first-nations/ (http://povcanada.com/first-nations/)

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Taking Down the Walls - In this live lecture Lency describes her joining with the First Nations people of Northern Canada. This inspiring lecture is a story about how we can overcome our potential differences.

Tracks:
Taking Down The Walls
1 Cultural Genocide
2 My Friend & the Technique of Joining
3 My Friends's Integration
4 The Next Healing
5 Finding Our Innocence
http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/cds-and-dvds/the-fall-from-grace-and-taking-down-the-walls/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/cds-and-dvds/the-fall-from-grace-and-taking-down-the-walls/)

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PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION CANADA

'A FIRST NATIONS WORKSHOP - NOVEMBER 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, 1998
Prince Rupert, British Columbia, Canada.

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/psychologyofvision/1STNATIONS.html (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/psychologyofvision/1STNATIONS.html)
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Patricia Peters's Overview

Current
 store clerk at N'Quatqua First Nations
Past
 Room Team or clean up crew at Psychology of Vision
 Sales Representative at Psychology of Vision
Social Development worker at N'Quatqua First Nations

Receptionist at N'Quatqua First Nation
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/patricia-peters/76/7a5/204 (http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/patricia-peters/76/7a5/204)
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Melissa Meyer, from the Tsimshian Nation, Lax Kw'alaams/Port Simpson, BC, is a University of British Columbia graduate in Fine Arts, a traditional weaver, and a Psychology of Vision trainer.
http://www.synergiescanada.org/journals/bcn/bcstudies/265/675 (http://www.synergiescanada.org/journals/bcn/bcstudies/265/675)
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AUGUST 12TH,13TH & 14TH, 2005
ALERT BAY, BC

We are honoured to extend this invitation to former students of St. Michael’s Residential School to attend a gathering this summer in Alert Bay, BC.
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Healing workshop: Psychology of Vision healing exercises – First Nations Trainers. Theme: Reclaiming and empowering true self.
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Healing workshop: Psychology of Vision healing exercises– First Nations Trainers. Theme: Embracing spirituality and letting go of the past.
http://www.turtleisland.org/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3867&start=0 (http://www.turtleisland.org/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3867&start=0)
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News article from 2001:

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Dr. Charles Brasfield, a North Vancouver psychiatrist who has treated hundreds of native residential-school victims, says they typically require lengthy one-on-one counselling, which Health Canada refuses to pay for.

When bands spend money on quick-fix New Age therapies such as Neurolinguistic Programming and something called
Psychology of Vision, he says, Health Canada looks the other way.


``Typically, these quick-fix money-makers try to get an aboriginal `trainer' as a front,'' he said. ``We tried to warn medical services how public money was being spent but they weren't interested.

``We're very concerned about the influx of these money-making quick-fix therapies. They're very expensive and they're just sweeping reserves.''

Agrees Vera Manuel, a Secwepemc playwright and qualified traditional therapist: ``It's a feeding frenzy out there -- all kinds of so-called therapists are coming out of the woodwork.

``These New Age therapies are becoming as oppressive to us as the first wave of religion -- some of them are like cults. This is not a good use of the small amount of money we have.''

(the entire article is very worth reading) http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TurtleIslandNativeNetwork/conversations/topics/240 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TurtleIslandNativeNetwork/conversations/topics/240)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 07, 2013, 02:35:16 am
A presentation in 1999 at the The Canadian Aborginal AIDS Network ‘HIV/AIDS Community Building’ Forum:

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The Psychology of Vision
Presenter: Edna Brillon
The Psychology Of Vision workshop was a three day event based on personal and group healing with
an Aboriginal focus. Much of the work done in this workshop was intensely personal to the participants,
and out of respect for them and their own issues, much of what happened in these workshops
must remain confidential. However, the guiding principle behind the workshop, and the format used, is
recorded here for those who may be interested in attending one of Edna’s Psychology of Vision sessions
in the future.
Edna Brillon has traveled all around the world, making trust among people a reality. Her workshop is
based on four principles. Integrity, Accountability, Love, and non-denominational spirituality.
According to Edna, we are now living in the native renaissance. All over the world people want to
know us, and want to know our history. And though we are still in pain, we seem to forgive and heal
more quickly than other people. One of our roles perhaps is to heal and forgive and teach others around
the world how to do this as well.
One of the greatest issues with the native community is that we, as individuals, feel everyone else’s
pain. Children are especially sensitive. They take other’s pain, the pain of their mother’s and grandmothers,
and swallow it. It is a shamanic gift, this, and a tradition in native communities. Except that
Shaman used to swallow the pain and bring it back up again in great black balls and spit it out, to
achieve healing of their subject. We have lost our ability to bring it back up, and so we walk around
with the great black ball of pain in us. It is our ancestor’s pain, and the pain of our families, friends and
parents.
The goal of the Psychology of Vision is to begin to go in and heal this pain, to remove core issues and
replace it with the universe. This pain stops us from being who we are, and once it is removed, we are
free to live as we were intended to live. One of the ways to accomplish this is to bring people together
to share their pain. The workshop works with group and group process. We can’t deal with the pain
alone. Over the three day workshop, trust and energy is built, and a willingness to heal is unearthed. A
small group in a short time can do wonders.
The workshop is broken down into nine components. These are titled
1. Scout/Pioneer (exploration)
2. Relationships (without sacrifice)
3. New Level Of Communication
4. Chronic Problems
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5. Heart
6. Spirituality
7. Abundance
8. Letting Go
9. Leadership
There are four parts to the human mind.
1. Conscious mind — smallest of these, less than four percent of our makeup.
2. Subconscious mind — is a little bigger, and is like a video tape recorder. It records everything
that has happened to us from our birth onwards. We can access all emotion and feeling, everything
that happened to us, through the subconscious mind.
3. Unconscious mind — the healing work of the workshop is done here. One issue cleared up
here clears 10 in the subconscious mind and a 100 on the conscious mind. It is here that resides
myth, story, legend, and metaphor. The old people of our culture, when they used to see someone
in trouble, would not lecture them or tell them they were wrong. Rather they would tell a
story. The unconscious mind is a great healing place.
4. Higher Mind — place of enlightenment and the higher miracle mind. The worst thing that
colonization did to natives was take away a natural state of higher mind. Before contact, we
resided here — whole and unfettered. Contact brought us down into the conscious and subconscious
mind, which are fear based. Our consciousness was lowered.
When the clear, round circle of the higher mind is divided, becomes subfractionated, we become
small, troubled, isolated, and lonely. Our ego wants us to be divided in this way, but our higher mind
wants us connected. Each time in our workshops we clear up a core issue we erase a line that divides
our higher mind. The removal or clearing up of our core issues begins us on a journey of wholeness
back to enlightenment and the miracle mind. We are no longer working from a basis of fear. This is the
goal, through group process and personal revelation, of the workshop Psychology of Vision.

For more information on these workshops call Edna Brillon at
http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/HIVAIDS%20Aboriginal%20Skills%20Building%20Forum%201999.pdf (http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/HIVAIDS%20Aboriginal%20Skills%20Building%20Forum%201999.pdf)
pgs 29, 30, under category of Care, Treatment, and Support

Using search terms "psychology of vision" with "first nations" brings up a lot more worth looking over online. POV has been recruiting First Nations people for quite awhile, most especially First Nations women.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 09, 2013, 02:39:51 am
Chuck Spezzano is purposefully foul mouthed in seminars. He pronounces the word "control" as "c*nt troll", making women feel horrible and guilty for supposedly being too controlling. Women are shamed, made to feel like hags and witches for most anything they do. He also has regular crude routines with hand gestures and his microphone.

As Chuck directs people around the room in a seminar, he asks leading questions that more and more close down people's ability to think. Survivors felt herded into a mental corner, guided to surrender over and over again.

People end up in a child like state. There is immense pressure to cooperate, be good, do as directed.

Chuck claims that everyone's luck will be better after seminars. He uses "luck" as a sales pitch especially in Asia. Some trainers are addicted to gambling.

Sometimes Chuck and trainers dress up their act with words like "leadership" and "business", but it really is the same old act:

Break down people's boundaries
Have them reveal personal hardships and info
Make them emote and purge
Rebond them to POV

Doesn't matter what the theme is, it is the same every time, break you down and rebond, over and over.

Survivors experience numbness, dissociation, and other signs of trauma.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 09, 2013, 03:57:42 am
This is a good example of how Psychology of Vision is presented in a variety of different ways, with different visuals and emphasis, in this case with talk of leadership and business:

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Creating Leaders for Change
We are a team of Visionary Leaders committed to being in service to an
evolving world. We provide a new approach to management, leadership
and partnership. It is our purpose to serve leaders who recognize the importance of consciousness in business.

• We offer Leadership Training, Corporate Training, Workshops,
  Business Leadership Coaching and Steps to Leadership Programs.

• We recognize that systems and strategies are collapsing around us
  and a new paradigm is essential for future success.

• We are committed to awakening organizations and individuals to
  a new sense of self, a sense of purpose and support a commitment
  to change.

• We promote and foster a new way of doing business - a way that
  will move you creatively through these economic crossroads.

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Betty Lou Hunt is a Coach/Facilitator who operates Prince Rupert Occupational Rehab and is a founding partner of Cornerstones Wellness Centre. She is a Psychology of Vision* trainer with 38 years experience in motivating people to make changes in their lives.

http://www.visionaryleaderscanada.com/index.html (http://www.visionaryleaderscanada.com/index.html)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 09, 2013, 04:13:24 am
There is no confidentiality. During trainings and sessions people are forced to divulge personal history. Advanced trainers dig deep to get information on people, and then talk this over among themselves. Trainers get information on people from community members and family, even estranged family.

So when POV has recruited community leaders and their families, and all those people are busy recruiting others, this makes for a painful sense of exposure and lack of basic privacy for survivors who still live where all this is going on.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 09, 2013, 02:59:00 pm
I believe this is affinity fraud. POV targets communities, recruits leaders, and has them recruit others, all within their own affinity group.

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The people who promote affinity scams often join or pretend to be members of groups. They then convince respected members of the group or religious leaders to help promote the scheme. Often leaders of the organization become the first victims in the scam and unwittingly encourage others within the group to follow suit.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/sk/news-nouvelle/2010-03-29-fraud-fraude-eng.htm (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/sk/news-nouvelle/2010-03-29-fraud-fraude-eng.htm)

Lency outright claims that she has "joined" with First Nations.

It's a type of pyramid scheme - trainers are encouraged to spend more money for trainings so they can recruit more people and make more money they then can give to the Spezzanos.

It is a fortune telling scam. Chuck keeps people hooked with his daily card readings that sometimes include predictions that bad things will happen if people don't do as he says.

POV is stage hypnosis and magic performance tricks.

POV is aggressive, scorched earth salesmanship. Selling by pounding on people's doors (minds) until someone says "Yes, sign me up".

It is psychological and physical violence, people are very badly mistreated. It is unethical, health info isn't kept confidential, people are not allowed to keep their healthy boundaries, psychology is "practiced" without a license. Harsh gossip is promoted in isolated communities and then mined for more information.

POV is run as a cult. Chuck and Lency channel heavens wishes and blessings.  Worship is encouraged. POV splits up families and bonds each individual to the POV pseudo-family. The top trainers even behave like Chuck and Lency. Anyone who dares leave is harassed and shunned. Chuck has set up an us vs them mentality in his people.

Chuck encourages gambling addiction. He tells people that "our luck" is increased by POV activities and that everyone should gamble.

All the money Chuck is making, where is it going? Is it all being properly legally reported? What businesses and charities is POV involved in? Is Chuck funding his gambling addiction with this long running seminar con?

Research and critique:

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision)








Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 09, 2013, 07:47:41 pm
The videos Lency Spezzano puts out are difficult to watch. If you can watch one, I recommend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

The woman with Lency is Babs Stevens http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/) - a POV trainer and chief administrative officer with the Skidegate Band Council

When Lency starts out with the "today is your birthday", she is using her usual intro, this is the start to the hypnotic induction, she directs us to imagine that it is our birthday, ask for what we want.

You will see Lency make odd hand and arm gestures. She is trained in American Sign Language and has also invented her own sign language for various POV terms. This is also her way to keep focus trained on her.

Babs says "I would like to heal Contact". Now keep in mind, Babs has been part of this Psychology of Vision organization for quite awhile, she has been recruited and is heavily invested.

Lency is a white woman, a con artist, directing and controlling a First Nations leader. Lency runs the show, interprets what Babs is saying, and "heals" her.

Lency says Babs wants to receive the removal of the negative influence of colonization. In fact Lency claims she can remove it from the minds of Babs and others entirely. For generations to come. Then she says this is because there is "only one of us here".

"Only one of us here" is A Course in Miracles slogan that POV uses often. How racist is that? Lency, a white, dominant woman, telling First Nations women that there only "one of us", which in this case means "there is only Lency and her need for money". Obviously there is more than "one of us" in this video, in that room, and everywhere.

Lency talks at length on how committed POV is to First Nations. She claims that POV shares similar values with First Nations "original culture". So she is claiming that diverse First Nations are one "original culture", and that everything is the same, all about oneness.

When she speaks of oneness she is also speaking of Oneness, as in the Oneness Movement that POV is a spin off of.

Lency claims that POV is causing "cultural renaissance" in First Nations communities. Lency makes a somewhat clumsy pitch for more FN families to join.

Lency says POV receives so much back, "so much grace and beauty".

Then Lency's face goes through contortions, she cues the music, and she tells the audience that this is a big one, that we will feel this in our brain.

She tells that if we feel uncomfortable it is okay, it is just things going on in our brain.

Lency takes Babs' hands. The two women laugh, make faces, Lency does a predatory staring routine. All while the music plays, a woman singing about Shakti. Babs has what looks like a mild seizure, Lency sobs and cries.

Lency eventually directs verbally and with a gesture Babs to look at a specific camera. The Shakti music is louder, Lency has a hand on Babs' shoulder, Babs looks like a wreck.

We get to see the audience, women are smiling, one woman is rocking in place (about 10:32). Lency directs another trainer to join them, this is Melissa Meyer, Tsimshian http://povcanada.com/trainers/melissa-meyer/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/melissa-meyer/)

She's rolled the audience at this point, people are trembling, laughing, one guy has the shakes, the music continues, Lency comments that there are so many people in that room who were suffering from being colonized, implying that they have now all been healed. Lency refers to Melissa as "my daughter" at the end and kisses her.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 10, 2013, 02:56:09 am
Concerning POV charities, this includes past archives of their sites, my use of bolding:

2009

Psychology of Vision communities support at least three charitable funds: VisionAfrica in Zambia, the First Nations in Canada and Bethsaida Orphanage in Kerala, India.

None of these charities are ‘registered’; this minimises running costs and ensures that the money raised goes directly to the people in need.

It is our belief that through relationship with all involved we offer the greatest benefit to all parties; our giving is personal and we work to build communities.

As many of you already know we have received many generous donations and collected thousands of pounds, dollars, euros etc. We would like to thank all of you who have donated to these funds over the years, and appreciate everything that has been given or will be given.

Thousands of people around the world also appreciate all you have given and they know that they are not alone whatever their circumstances.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090523211154/http://www.pov-int.com/charities (http://web.archive.org/web/20090523211154/http://www.pov-int.com/charities)

2011

Psychology of Vision communities support at least four charitable funds: VisionAfrica in Zambia, the First Nations in Canada and Bethsaida Orphanage in Kerala, India and a community in Bangladesh.

None of these charities are ‘registered’; this minimises running costs and ensures that all the money raised goes directly to the people in need.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110326103328/http://www.pov-int.com/charities (http://web.archive.org/web/20110326103328/http://www.pov-int.com/charities)

2013

The Psychology of Vision community supports a number of charities or funds, sometimes by arranging special events or by collecting money during a seminar. The money is used in various ways, to see how please click on the links below to access the website pages dedicated to the fund. In all cases it is not simply about giving a financial hand out, the guiding principles of the Psychology of Vision are also applied.

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/charities-and-funds/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/charities-and-funds/) follow the links on that page to their individual charity pages - "The First Nations Fund is administered by Susan How at the Psychology of Vision Canada office on a volunteer basis." , Vision Zambia, registered charity in UK, run by Master POV Trainer Jeff Allen http://www.visionzambia.co.uk/ (http://www.visionzambia.co.uk/) , something in India with websites aimed at German and Swiss, something in Bangladesh that originates in Japan http://www.cocoro-v.org/english/index.html
 (http://www.cocoro-v.org/english/index.html)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 10, 2013, 02:50:42 pm
Chuck Spezzano does a daily divination card routine that keeps people focused on him via Facebook and elsewhere. They are all psycho-babble, but this one actually does deserve being highlighted. Chuck got locked out of the hotel internet and so of course this means that the terrorist shadows in his mind sabotaged him. You know, how they do.

He directs us to find out just how many terrorist shadows we have in our mind. So this means many of his followers are doing exactly that today. Looking for terrorist shadows in the hidden part of their mind, believing these shadows cause sabotage even out in the physical world, then doing religious practices to somehow heal this. Or something like that.

People can believe what they want, behavior is what mattters. Chuck promotes these beliefs to keep people extremely confused and unable to function - and more likely to give him $.

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HEALING THE TERRORIST SHADOW

HEALING THE TERRORIST SHADOW is the card for today. It is a hidden part of the mind that sabotages you and what you are doing, which obviously happened to me as I tried to write about this card and got locked out of the hotel internet. Ask how many you have. Forgive yourself and your belief system and put them all in Heaven's Hands...Have a good one!

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-terrorist-shadow.html?view=classic (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-terrorist-shadow.html?view=classic)

Chuck has also used the phrase "crazy wisdom" for one of his cards, this is a big waving red flag. Gurus who claim they use crazy wisdom use this as an excuse for anything they do to their followers, including abuse them. No matter what, they have an escape clause "I ripped you off because that was the only way to enlighten you and free you from your terrorist shadows.".
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on October 10, 2013, 03:36:34 pm
Quote
Lency Spezzano Provides Today's Entertaining Consumer Alert! http://www.mortythedog.com/2013/10/lency-spezzano-provides-todays.html

Yes, Piff, that video is the most bizarre.  It is especially hilarious to see it in the still photos, however, as mortythedog puts on his site and you have copied above.

I have just finished reading the ebook "Stripping the Gurus" for which Al put a link on this this site some time ago (and I just now got around to reading), and the author, Geoffrey Falk, talks about the "crazy wisdom" which so many of the gurus utilize.  "This may hurt but it is for your own good" is the idea there, and you can see it with Chuck (Chunk, as Morty refers to him -- I thought it was a typo at first, but it isn't) and Lency so much.  Yes, crazy, crazy, crazy!
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 10, 2013, 05:13:49 pm
Quote
Lency Spezzano Provides Today's Entertaining Consumer Alert! http://www.mortythedog.com/2013/10/lency-spezzano-provides-todays.html

Yes, Piff, that video is the most bizarre.  It is especially hilarious to see it in the still photos, however, as mortythedog puts on his site and you have copied above.

I have just finished reading the ebook "Stripping the Gurus" for which Al put a link on this this site some time ago (and I just now got around to reading), and the author, Geoffrey Falk, talks about the "crazy wisdom" which so many of the gurus utilize.  "This may hurt but it is for your own good" is the idea there, and you can see it with Chuck (Chunk, as Morty refers to him -- I thought it was a typo at first, but it isn't) and Lency so much.  Yes, crazy, crazy, crazy!

This "crazy wisdom" stuff, looks like it is a Nuage guru's  favorite way of dodging responsibility. "This may hurt but it is for your own good" - an excuse for making people vomit, cry, scream, laugh hysterically in Chuck's seminars.

Osho/ Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh claimed he was a master of crazy wisdom too.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 10, 2013, 05:24:06 pm
Survivors report that Chuck Spezzano has been invited numerous times to potlatches and Haida historical events, but he never honors those invitations. Instead he pushes people to provide venues and funds for his own events.

Elders and others say "Why hand over so much power to those people they are not even here?".

Survivors say that Chuck is a coward. That he may fire off his terrorist mind missiles in the form of his daily card readings, but he can not defeat First Nations communities.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on October 10, 2013, 06:37:07 pm

This "crazy wisdom" stuff, looks like it is a Nuage guru's  favorite way of dodging responsibility. "This may hurt but it is for your own good" - an excuse for making people vomit, cry, scream, laugh hysterically in Chuck's seminars.

Osho/ Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh claimed he was a master of crazy wisdom too.

Yes, Piff, and be sexually abused and hand over all your worldly possessions -- but it is for your own good, your "enlightenment".
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 10, 2013, 11:33:04 pm
Chuck made use of the 9/11 tragedy for his next November newsletter.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011212153953/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/newsletter_now.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20011212153953/http://www.visionhosts.co.uk/newsletter_now.htm)

THE WORLD & BUSINESS AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH
Chuck Spezzano


September 11th was a wake-up call to Business, the West and all of us individually. Such an experience of personal and collective catastrophe depicts a mastery level test of human consciousness. We take such tests, either at a shamanic or mastery level, in an effort to leap up in consciousness. If we fail a shamanic level test it feels like our heart has been ripped out. A mastery level test is even more grave and if we don’t pass the test it feels as if our world has collapsed. These tests can either kill or gain power in consciousness for us.


In the next one hundred years the world will undergo more of a profound change than it has in thousands of years, and it is likely that Business will change most of all. This will occur because if the world is to change, and it must if we are to prevent catastrophic and cataclysmic events, Business will be both the fulcrum and the platform for this change. By giving birth to itself at a whole new level, it will become the midwife of the future.


To accomplish this level of leadership, Business must change both its ethics and its goals. It can no longer think in the short term but must take a long, wholistic view. Anything other than this will prove to be both self defeating and bad economics. When this occurs we all pay for the profit of a few.


Business can no longer afford attitudes of ‘take the money and run’ or ‘slash and burn’ economics. We must think ecologically, not just of the environment, but in terms of the whole world as one household. We must include off the ledger costs as well as those normally on it. Our new economic vision must include three generations in its outlook rather than just our own perspective. When we have included not only our children but all the children now and to come, Business will finally have the perspective that it is meant to have, not just now but one that works for all time.


The new Business, which will come from a place of high vision, integrity and leadership, will speak from a place of both common sense and right mindedness. This will be remarkably effective both in the long and the short run because it will no longer seek to take advantage or sell superfluous commodities that don’t add value. Business will maximize its effectiveness by right relationships, wholistic intent and global inclusion.


The September 11th attack was a wake up call for Business most of all. An attack was made on the symbolic center of Business, the World Trade Centre and it collapsed. This catastrophic event was carried out by terrorists, religious fanatics coming from disenfranchised people. The goal of Business in the next one hundred years is to enfranchise and include everyone. This is possible for Business in the next hundred if it first changes its attitude and goals.


To ignore the need for inclusion is a mistake of catastrophic proportion, which will gear the world toward war economies. War is always bad for Business, people and the environment. It engages in a win-lose attitude, rather than an integrative one. This produces loss and defeat in the long, and sometimes short-term, for any who continue in the win-lose way. Business must overcome what it sees as the dichotomy between profit and an all inclusive or Integrative Attitude.


The Integrative Attitude is initially a bigger challenge as it addresses the underlying quality of issues. It naturally recognizes the importance of learning and joining to find the way forward. This Integrative Attitude, which brings about new levels of partnership, also has greater ease, freedom, success and long term solutions.


Business must overcome its short-sighted, reactive approach, understand the long-term trends both in Business and Society to realize the remarkable opportunities present. Business vision must necessarily include the unfolding of world and societal progress as a major factor, otherwise it will still keep trying to conduct Business as it has always been done, which will fall far short in the coming times.


Business must become a true partner and friend to government because it will be called upon to support, help and share both the responsibility and leadership. It will instruct in better business practice and in some cases be called upon to bail-out and eventually take over many government services. It can only do this if Business’s goal changes from money and winning to wholistic, economic success and wellness. This will be not only for Business, but also for the population at large.


International companies will recognize that they are not just multi-cultural but transcultural, taking the best of all cultures into a new and unique culture, that helps people become citizens of the world.


Business will recognize itself as the key factor for unity, peace and prosperity in the next one hundred years. Business must carry the vision, keep the faith and lead the way for change.


This can only happen if there is a personal transformation of ethics. The longer Business tries to conduct business as usual, the more opportunities will be lost. Business has the potential to shorten time immeasurably in new levels of prosperity and unity. Business’s gift of taking advantage of opportunities and the desire for a greater effectiveness will be the inspiration which will initially move it to see a new and better way forward.


When we are motivated for a new vision in Business, which will work not just for those in Business but for everyone, it will occur. Whether we move forward through inspiration and truth or pain and necessity is up to us. Confucius once wrote that the smart horse moves at the shadow of the whip.


September 11th
The depth of the wound and the drama of September suggests a soul wound, something which was deep in our collective consciousness. Basically something of this magnitude comes directly from our unconscious. This means that the issue, though deeply repressed, erupts to the surface to be healed. These are parts of our own mind judged, fragmented, repressed and projected on the world outside of us.


The first and most obvious factor to be healed from the unconscious is that of shadow figures. In the last week I have heard people present Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, President Bush and the United States Government (for bombing) as shadow figures. Obviously, terrorist shadow figures reflect both our collective conscious, and our unconscious minds. We must each find the part of ourselves that we have judged, dis-enfranchised, repressed and projected and heal them.


Our thoughts, beliefs and self-concepts that we have buried, give rise to the world around us. Within our own minds these shadows are the parts that chase us in nightmares. They just want to come home; they are the parts that psychologically need to be accepted, welcomed back and re-integrated lest there be even worse times or challenges ahead.


Western society has been collectively poised at the brink of entering a new stage of partnership for the Earth, which has the effect of bringing about new levels of peace and prosperity. When we enter this stage, we finally will have the collective courage and willingness to re-open and re-enter the unconscious mind, which as children and adolescents most of us cemented over out of fear.


The unconscious or soul level of the mind contains those elements which, like the subconscious, are threatening to the ego. In this unconscious there are levels of pain and transcendent joy that we don’t want to face. There is within our unconscious mind the power of miracles and that which can transcend the natural laws. The unconscious mind contains a symbolic, mythic and energetic world full of ‘demons,’ ‘dragons’ and ‘treasure.’ As the unconscious comes to the surface we can face catastrophic or cataclysmic events or we can experience a time of unparalleled partnership, friendship and cooperation.


If we partially succeed as seems the case with the September 11th events, we will have aspects of both catastrophe and cooperation.


What occurs in the future for better or worse depends on all of us. The key factor is whether we take a healing attitude that brings us together or a reactive, judgmental attitude that divides us. We are now in a window of healing, grace and guidance flooding the Earth. This has been going on for the last two years and will continue for at least another eleven. This is meant to be the turning point in consciousness for the Earth, a stepping beyond dissociated independence and a real step into world partnership and interdependence. This will help everyone, even those not yet at this level.


If there is fear of this next step or if we fail to see the way then there will be some sort of catastrophic undoing. This is why it is important for all of us to commit to a better way, a next step. We have all experienced ‘undoing’ in our lives, where things were going forward smoothly and then fell apart in some form of sabotage. At a psychological level, all sabotage is really a form of self-sabotage and the ‘undoer,’ the ‘destroyer’ and the ‘terrorist’ are key shadow elements of our own mind. If we don’t accept and integrate these back into ourselves then we will have to face them again later.


On an international scale, even if we defeat the terrorists it will be only a stop gap measure for the next ten to twenty years and the problem will be worse next time. At this stage our responses and solutions must become qualitative rather than reactive. We must find a way to enfranchise and help all the people of the earth or there will remain a fertile breeding ground for terrorists.


We must effectively raise the consciousness of the Earth, healing ourselves, joining in partnership, friendship and raising the standard of living for the whole earth.


For the most part what we can do personally has to do with watching our own minds. We will either be part of the solution or part of the problem. We must remain proactive through attitudes of friendship and healing ourselves or we will fall into the traps of fear, negativity and power struggle. Going forward together with confidence is precisely what we need for the world to move into this new stage of friendship, partnership and collective prosperity. A war or any type of conflict reflects a war within ourselves and it generates fear it which also reflects a fear of going forward as in any power struggle.


Our stepping up and positive attitude is the biggest contribution we can make toward peace at this time. This gives us the awareness of our need to heal and join when we get reactive, angry, depressed or fearful. We can only suffer pain or become reactive in fear or anger when we have acted negatively toward someone.


One easy way to correct our mind is to re-choose and respond to that person with love and compassion. This attitude of no-judgement doesn’t permit others to hurt us as that would set us both back, but it allows us to act and respond in such a way to always make the situation better. Only with love will a situation get better. Only with love can there be a miracle or a jump in consciousness.


What we can do is to frequently examine our feelings and our attitudes toward those with whom we work and live and those around the world. Anyone we are thinking or acting lovelessly toward is someone we could help rather than hinder. Whenever we judge someone, we don’t see them, we see the parts of ourselves that we dislike or hate. Through giving support and love we can all contribute and progress. Whatever we do, we will now do it together.


'The World and Business since September 11st' has been written for the soon to be published VISIONS magazine Volume 3, Fall/ Winter edition. If you would like

to receive a copy of VISIONS please contact your Country Coordinator, or

email Psychology of Vision Promotions LLC - promotions@psychologyofvision.com

- and the issue will be mailed to you.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 11, 2013, 06:51:36 pm
The 10 Day Apprenticeship program to be held Tuesday, October 15 – Thursday, October 24, 2013 in Hawaii has sold out. 50 people, $3,000 tuition, unless you've already done their 100 Day, then you only have to pay 1,500. So even if everyone got the 100 Day grad rate, that is $75,000 the Spezzanos make. Just for that one event.

The apprenticeship tuition does not include lodging, food, or transportation.

In order to get that special deal of only $1,500, you've already done 30 days of other apprenticeship programs. Doing so would cost about $9,000 total. Plus you've taken the Steps to Leadership program, not really clear how much that costs, but it does cost, both money and time.

And there is more stuff you have to do. So a possible low ball figure of how much a person has spent before being eligible for the $1,500 apprenticeship rate is easily $10,000.

A person who has already invested $10,000 in POV, plus missed paid employment time, missed family and community time, has in the process had their brain washed over and over again. They've been love bombed and generally messed over.

Now they can pay for the apprenticeship. Plus their travel, lodging, food, missed work time etc. For about 10 days they are worked over some more.

Probably they want an hour worth of one on one with Chuck Spezzano, that costs $1,000.

There are books and study materials to buy, Then people can take the Mastery Program, $4,000. This gives you a 10 day event, webinars through out a year, 50% off of a coaching session.

At this point, you probably sound like this:

Quote
I look in your eyes and feel God’s beauty
Way beyond and transcending any role, rule or duty
Feeding us to fullness on every level
Helping us to eradicate every demon and devil
Working tirelessly to get us all here to this spot
Where we can each go inside and untie every knot
We wholeheartedly thank you over and over again
Helping us all to heal every problem, hurt, wound and/or pain
You are part of God’s Foundation that feed our souls
Helping to reach Oneness as our only goal
You help raise our Spirit’s in delightful ways
You truly are the Brilliance of God’s Great Rays

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm)

And you probably now want to become a POV trainer. In order to do that, one requirement is to be able to "pass on Miracles easily". Along with all the other hefty costs for continuing seminars and sessions, the entry level fee is $4,500.

Once you are a trainer you cannot rest. You have to keep to a strict schedule of requirements, and you keep paying $.
http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Autumn on October 12, 2013, 06:02:36 am
I wondered if the Spezzano's two children were involved in the family business, but it appears they are busy elsewhere.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano is a photographer and seems to be living now in New York and working for a media company.  He is a photographer and has posted quite a few photos online and, from what I can gather, sells them and donates the proceeds to charity.  I attached one of his photos of his dad at the beach that he posted on a blog.  Chunk's (Chuck's) hair was darker then, since the photo was posted in 2004.

http://cspezzphotos.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_archive.html
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-h-spezzano/B/930/16A

J'aime Leilani Spezzano is an actress/artist.  I wonder if she taught Lency any of her moves?

https://www.facebook.com/JLSpezzanoActress
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2684205/
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 13, 2013, 01:02:05 am
Chuck tells followers that if they are stuck in traffic and late for something, they can use their minds to slow things down, suspend time. They should relax as they do this, and then they will arrive at their destination in plenty of time. Chuck suggests this often and really wants followers to try it, whenever people are busy and possibly going to be late.

Ex-members say that practicing this altered state of consciousness while driving a vehicle is not safe, and may be partly responsible for the apparent higher rate of accidents followers get into.

Lency Spezzano often tells people during her performances that nothing is real, everything is just a projection upon an imaginary screen. Lency taps her water bottle and says that this and everything else, is not real.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 13, 2013, 12:11:41 pm
Everyone has to sign waivers and have this witnessed and cosigned before being allowed into a workshop room. The waiver states that POV is not accountable for any outcome from participating in the workshop. People are not given copies of this.

There is no informed consent. No info given on the true credentials of the Spezzanos and trainers, no license number given, no accurate description of techniques and methods used, and no time frame given as to how long treatment will be. There are no evaluations written up and available in client files.

Chuck Spezzano says his goal is to bring psychology to the world, but this is not about healthy psychology at all. He's not licensed, he is not supervised, he doesn't give informed consent, and he is experimenting on people while he takes their money.

Under these circumstances, Chuck and Lency and their trainers should never be working with Residential School Survivors, especially never with their memories.

Quotes from survivors researching POV:

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When we began to research more about the care of Residential school survivors , trauma treatment was mentioned many times. As we researched trauma treatment we  discovered that there are serious laws and regulations around trauma treatment and mental health. If residential school survivors are entering a process of trauma treatment and especially memory trauma treatment there are standards of care that licensed practitioners are responsible for. If deemed that malpractice occurred than the following standards of care would be violated:

1)     failure to secure consultation or supervision

2)     practice in isolation, the quality of which significantly departs from the quality of practice generally accepted by the peer community

3)     failure to adequately document the treatment

4)     failure to demonstrate knowledge of and adherence to mental health law and ethical principals

5)     failure to demonstrate knowledge of or ability to utilize in treatment the available authoritative clinical & scientific literature on trauma treatment

Unlicensed practitioners may not be sued for malpractice but they certainly may be sued for negligence.

Hypnosis should be used only by licensed health and mental professionals with advanced degrees within their area of expertise. Lay persons using these techniques with potentially traumatic material may be illegally practicing psychotherapy. Those who conduct trauma treatment need to be qualified.

At a minimum professional practice entails meeting the requirements for licensure as a health service provider at an independent level, this means the practitioner has fulfilled the minimum requirements of successfully completing an accredited organized clinical degree and a program including its requirement participation in a number of supervised clinical practica, an intensive clinical internship , residency, and or post-doctoral fellowship.

Those who are not licensed at an independent level are expected to practice under the supervision of licensed professionals who have clinical and legal responsibility  for their cases.

Therapists using hypnosis should be familiar with the most current legal rulings in their jurisdiction regarding admissibility of hypnotically refreshed recollection. Therapists should have a working knowledge prior to doing trauma treatment: developmental theory, models of memory, suggestibility, trauma theory ,dissociation ,psychopathology and assessment.

A therapist has a duty to sufficiently inform a prospective client about the nature of the treatment to be provided ,especially about its limitations and risks.

These notes are from Memory Trauma Treatment and The Law, recommended reading for those who have been mistreated .
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 16, 2013, 04:37:29 pm
Lency Spezzano has replied to some of the comments on Youtube that are critical of her hypnosis videos:

 Lency Spezzano 12 hours ago

Dear Sal R, I can understand that the healing? method is not understood by you - it is? a radical technique that requires emotional courage - clearly not for everybody. But why the character assassination? Why go to every video we have shared on Youtube to leave the message that we are cons running a scam? Is that the only motivation you can imagine for what we do - money? All the seminars that Chuck and I have taught in First Nations communities were ones we donated; feedback is always great

 Lency Spezzano 12 hours ago

There are about 50 of us PoV Trainers around the world, and so far none of us has gotten rich off leading the trainings. :) It? is a high overhead business, and it is a challenging lifestyle. Calling PoV seminar participants "victims"? whom we hypnotize and abuse is an insult to thousands of people world-wide who truly value the work.

 Lency Spezzano 12 hours ago

If we were damaging? people we? would have heard about it from them, or from witnesses of that abuse. What is your motivation for attacking us so strongly? I know some people enjoy writing nasty things on the internet, but you clearly have your own agenda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk&feature=c4-overview&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk&feature=c4-overview&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 16, 2013, 04:54:33 pm
Survivors report that Chuck and Lency Spezzano are often told that their workshops have caused serious damage in people's lives.

One participant, a native women, "actually said right to Lency's face in front of a large first nations workshop in North vancouver (the room was probably about 200 participants) that she felt it was a mind fuck what she was experiencing" from their work. The woman said she had done a seminar in June, and it was now October, and she was still suffering and not coping very well.

"Lency stood up front of everyone and said yes, this is a mind fuck, that is what we are doing here."

No compassion or concern was shown for the woman reporting distress.

Lency has often spoken publicly about being called a cult leader, her reply is that people just don't understand, that POV is all about healing, and any who criticize are just trying to attack their healing work.

"It doesn't matter what complaint you have , they will always turn it into an issue of 'rebellion, shadow, or the dark soul patterns' "

Some people have experienced psychotic events from POV that have affected their lives for years.

Some people have been kicked out of POV trainings, one woman for having an extreme reaction, one man for being too sexually aggressive, among others.

People who have been damaged aren't checked in on, there is no healthy supportive follow up, they are considered rejects and throw aways. Of  course, it is actually good that POV doesn't continue to mess with them, it gives people an opportunity to recover.

Hopefully anyone who has been damaged and rejected by POV will get help. Don't believe what Chuck and Lency Spezzano say, they are con artists.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 16, 2013, 08:21:33 pm
In 2009 Chuck and Lency Spezzano did an event in California - Next Evolution: Mastery of Heart, Mind, & Spirit

The Next Evolution
Mastery of Mind, Heart, & Spirit

October 10-12, 2009
Marina Del Rey, California
The new era that lies before us provides a tremendous opportunity to:
• Evolve Your Self
Evolve Your Health
• Evolve Your Relationships
• Evolve Your Prosperity
The 3-day seminar will include:
• Practical Tools to Live a Happier Life
• Healing Skill Development Exercises
• Yoga and Meditation

Psychology pioneers Chuck and Lency Spezzano will be leading sessions for people on the healing path, whether the goal is self-discovery or a desire to deepen intuitive insights.
Learn how to:
• Bring to light harmful issues from within and resolve them quickly
• Inspire creativity, purpose and fulfillment
• Find solutions where everyone wins

Leading yoga instructor and sound therapist, Guru Singh is an authority on Kundalini Yoga and an accomplished composer and musician. He will be facilitating the use of meditation, yoga postures, mantra and sound to restore physical, mental and emotional harmonies.
Learn how to:
• Use mantras in combination with rhythmic breathing to sharpen your mental focus
• Become aware of and use your prana – life force – to heal and empower yourself
• Remove patterns of competitive, limiting emotions and thoughts
• Achieve the sacred purpose of your life

3 days - $595

http://nextevolution.eventbrite.com/ (http://nextevolution.eventbrite.com/)

In Lency's promo video she says that she and Chuck "resonate" with Guru Singh's vision.

Guru Singh http://www.gurusingh.com/ (http://www.gurusingh.com/)

Guru Singh is a devotee of Yogi Bhajan http://www.gurusingh.com/qa-with-guru-singh-7/ (http://www.gurusingh.com/qa-with-guru-singh-7/)

http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id17.html (http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id17.html)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 16, 2013, 09:12:53 pm
Dec 2009 Facebook note from Lency Spezzano:

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This evening Chuck and I initiated 20 Apprenticeship participants into becoming Oneness Blessing Givers. Such a sweet evening! Thank you AmmaBhagavan! XXXXXXX

Also from 2009:

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Chuck has finished a wonderful training for Buddhist Monks and Nuns in Taiwan

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Lency and Chuck are back home together in Oahu, Hawaii together after their travels to Europe, Canada, USA, China, Taiwan, Singapore (and that's just recently) They've facilitated healing with Buddhist Monks and Nuns. First Nations of BC. Executive Chinese Businessmen and women. A very, very wide range of European, Asian, North American, South American, Australasian and African men and women. children, babies and parents fathers and grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers (add 'Great' to elders).

2010:

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We had a spectacular day of healing for our PoV Steering Committee, and our Trainers' Conference opened with a beautiful day of sweet grace via Chuck. Day Two will be mine. Every day more Trainers are initiated as Blessing Givers as well. Profound commitment to the coming victory of mankind.

2011:

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In the early days, I would stand in front of the seminar group and, by simply loving them, make people cry.

Skype Enlightenment Process:

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I'm not going to attempt to pull the Apprenticeship participants into enlightenment, because the group mind isn't stable enough. Some people would be overwhelmed and frightened by the self discovery. I will wait to do the enlightenment process in my 5 day seminars, or in private sessions, where everybody there knows what they are getting into.



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 17, 2013, 01:30:45 pm
I wondered if the Spezzano's two children were involved in the family business, but it appears they are busy elsewhere.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano is a photographer and seems to be living now in New York and working for a media company.  He is a photographer and has posted quite a few photos online and, from what I can gather, sells them and donates the proceeds to charity.  I attached one of his photos of his dad at the beach that he posted on a blog.  Chunk's (Chuck's) hair was darker then, since the photo was posted in 2004.

http://cspezzphotos.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_archive.html
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-h-spezzano/B/930/16A

J'aime Leilani Spezzano is an actress/artist.  I wonder if she taught Lency any of her moves?

https://www.facebook.com/JLSpezzanoActress
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2684205/

Interesting that neither of the Spezzano children look to be POV trainers, "Oneness Blessing Givers", or working other types of nuage seminar scams.

Chuck has three siblings, his brother has been listed in public records at the same address as Chuck and Lency, but haven't seen mention of him being active with the company.

Lency is involved in an Arizona business with her brother

http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=L09869170&type=CORPORATION (http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=L09869170&type=CORPORATION)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 17, 2013, 01:59:21 pm
I assumed that the Spezzanos were doing their own spin on Oneness Blessings, but I'm wrong, this is straight up Oneness Movement.

Pam Carruthers, a POV trainer:
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Pam is now a Oneness Blessing Giver, so the Grace and healing is accelerated for everyone.
http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/ (http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/)

From Lency's Facebook:

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Oneness
December 8, 2009 at 2:08am

This evening Chuck and I initiated 20 Apprenticeship participants into becoming Oneness Blessing Givers. Such a sweet evening! Thank you AmmaBhagavan! XXXXXXX
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 18, 2013, 12:15:43 am
Fulfilling the Promise, Living the Vision
Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano.
Canyon de Chelly, Arizona, USA
October 16, 17 and 18, 2002.

Many promises were made by the US government to American Indian tribes to provide care and support for material necessities and responsibility for cultural preservation as outlined by the United States Trust Doctrine. These legal and binding agreements and compacts are known as "Treaties". Often times, US government and military representatives traveled to First Nation territories and communities to meet with and hold council with tribal leaders in order to make these agreements official, formal and legal. American Indian tribes and their leadership accepted and hosted these historic treaty meetings with the utmost sincerity and seriousness. Under traditional protocol persons were identified and introduced, words shared, explanations given; then under the perception of truth, negotiated terms were agreed upon, consecrated by a ceremony and blessed with a prayer, the Creator being a witness to both the spoken and written word. These treaties were the supreme and final communion from one human being to another, from one nation to another for the good of the people and generations to come. It is important to note that during many of these treaty negotiations tribal leaders and nations agreed to these treaties under great duress and hardship i.e. starvation, disease, forced relocation and loss of life, and many times limited English was only known and spoken by Indian interpreters.

Four hundred and fifty five treaties were signed by the US government and American Indian tribes. The US government violated provisions in everyone of these 455 treaties. American Indians never once violated or broke their word in any one of those 455 treaties. Today, American Indians live and see the consequences of those broken promises; they face ongoing challenges in achieving the quality of life and existence for which their ancestors sacrificed their lives, land, language, traditions and natural resources, all for the love of their children, elders, women and future generations.

As descendents of First Nations, it is difficult to forget the sacrifices, injustices and suffering experienced by ancestors and grandparents. Events such as Cherokee removal and the Trail of Tears and the Navajo Long Walk are important historical lessons that still profoundly impact native communities today. Through processes of healing and reconciliation, we can continue to address and support quality of life choices in respective native communities and governments in order to facilitate a process that Indian people may define, identify and promote integrity, empowerment, joy and vision.

Psychology of Vision is a healing model used around the world. It has proven very effective in facilitating and supporting the healing of First Nations people and communities. Through the marriage of the principles of psychology and spirituality, POV introduces a model of wellness and healing that heals the "traps and blocks" in the mind and uncovers the hidden gifts everyone has.

The POV model addresses and challenges individuals through processes of integration and joining, calling upon the help of the higher mind to seek and embrace higher vision as well as accepting Grace and Joy as part of life's experience. POV has been proven to work with people of all ages, cultures, and spiritual beliefs. POV workshops are currently held in North America and Hawaii, Asia, Europe and Africa.

Since 1991 Chuck and Lency Spezzano have been traveling to different areas of British Columbia, Canada, working pro bono with First Nations, reaching a greater number of people who otherwise would not have experienced the POV model. This has facilitated the healing of hundreds of people/families affected by the devastation caused by residential schools in Canada (known as boarding schools in the U.S.). While attending a healing retreat in Canada in June 2002, Fidel Moreno was particularly impressed and moved by witnessing such profound healing of survivors of these residential schools. Fidel's experience of this work has expanded his vision of the healing of American Indian communities in the U.S.; he has witnessed how Psychology of Vision really addresses issues such as multi-generational grief, depression, anger, rage and violence as well as historical traumas. His vision in assisting American Indian communities was one shared by the Spezzanos, who had been praying to meet someone to help them share their gift of the Psychology of Vision with American First Nations people.

Bringing Chuck and Lency Spezzano to Canyon de Chelly is fulfilling Fidel's vision of introducing Psychology of Vision to the First Nations of the United States. Chuck and Lency have agreed to facilitate, pro bono, this 3 day retreat/workshop for the Díne First Nation.

In the last four years the Spezzanos have fund raised well over $200,000 to train a number of First Nation facilitators and an even greater number of First Nation students committed to becoming facilitators. These First Nation facilitators are currently involved in First Nation communities, providing healing through the teachings of POV as well as continuing to work on themselves. Some of these First Nation facilitators will be involved in the 3 day retreat at Canyon de Chelly located in Chinle, Arizona.

This 3 day retreat and workshop will address historical trauma, multi-generational grief, family and relationship issues, problem solving (which may include addiction or health issues) and cycles of violence. Exercises of integration and joining will focus on self-value, self-healing, family healing and community wellness through higher mind, higher purpose and higher vision workshop processes. We are asking for your agency and your branch of the Díne Nation to support the Canyon de Chelly retreat and the healing of First Nations people by posting and distributing information regarding retreat/workshop dates and location to as many agencies and programs as possible. Fees for workshop/retreat are being waived for First Nations participants of the US; each participant will be responsible for their travel, lodging and food expenses and arrangements. The retreat/workshop fee for non-First Nation participants is $650USD. Everyone is welcome.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021012103336/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/canyondechelly.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20021012103336/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/canyondechelly.htm)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 18, 2013, 03:42:23 pm
I don't know if Fidel Moreno (Healing Winds http://www.healingwinds.net/about.html (http://www.healingwinds.net/about.html) ) has done any further work with Psychology of Vision. He does have many POV people on his Facebook friends list, including Chuck Spezzano.

I haven't found any post reviewing the Canyon de Chelly 2002 event, nor any evidence that POV did further trainings there.

Looking through past archived POV forums - there are many distressed, hurting, confused people posting, asking questions and sharing life challenges with POV people who are not trained, not licensed, not keeping health confidentiality, with people giving really bad advice.

Serious depression, abusive relationships, addictions - all answered with psychobabble.

Lency gives some particularly bad advice in these forums. No matter what the issue, Lency will suggest more "joinings". more hypnosis, more indoctrination into the POV cultic mind.

Chuck & Lency are a form of cancer quacks, as are their trainers who preach the gospel of http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm (http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm) This Healing A-Z stuff looks an awful lot like Louise Hay's Heal Your Body A -Z book http://www.hayhouse.com/details.php?id=273 (http://www.hayhouse.com/details.php?id=273)

Trainers have to keep recruiting, keep developing followers, keep churning out workshops, in order to keep their trainer status and perhaps advance. Trainers doing workshops for women with breast cancer are especially appalling because their motivation is to keep their POV training status, and because the psychobabble blames the victim.

Chuck Spezzano likes sci-fi and fantasy books, this is evident in his "teachings". His divination card for today is:

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HEALING THE SOUL STEALER SHADOW is the card for today. This is a person who through the use of unconscious, magical power is able to leach off energy and even stop someone's evolutionary progress by seemingly stealing their very souls to use the energy for their own dark magical ends. It is a rare shadow but one whose hatred within us can lead to virulent self-attack. it is time to forgive these beliefs about our- selves and melt down the shadows to add their energy to our wholeness

This is a great example of how Chuck Spezzano works hard to keep his followers scared. This is an example of his creating a false us vs. them dynamic. Chuck and Lency keep their followers close, and tell them that the outside world just doesn't understand, isn't mature enough for POV healing, and that it contains danger.

Followers of Chuck and Lency Spezzano can never rest. Because not only do they have to fear outsiders, they also have to fear their own internal bad stuff that supposedly rises from their psyches for healing. Also, any problems POV followers see in their environment are supposedly their own inner bad stuff rising up for healing. This is endless. Chuck cranks out divination card readings, books, newsletters, to keep people hooked on his every word, as if he has answers for everything. Chuck even claims that he has special understanding of political and world events. And followers end up doing things like joinings with their idea of Dick Cheney as a result.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 18, 2013, 09:21:26 pm
More on that "joining" with Dick Cheney bit:

from Lency Spezzano:
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posted 15 March 2003 08:01 PM          Thanks Julian - I was surprised to see how much aggression and fear I felt when I joined with Mr. Cheney. Wow! I think this is the person we should really focus on. The other guys seem so mild now in comparison. Thank you all for doing this work. XXX L

from a follower:
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posted 16 March 2003 09:04 PM      Dick Cheney is a very hard nut to soften. Maybe I just imagined a cuddly bunny wanting recognition. However, it is good to suspend judgement if only for a moment and let something else through: a miracle. Love to you all at this crucial time, you are inspirational.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040216092657/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/frameforum.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20040216092657/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/frameforum.htm)

People can believe what they want. If people want to "join" with Dick Cheney and they aren't harming themselves or others in the process, there is no problem. But POV uses beliefs like this to keep people hooked and paying for very expensive endless seminars.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 20, 2013, 02:22:38 pm
Resources

Exposing Psychology of Vision http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision)

Ngystle Society http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Ngystle_Society (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Ngystle_Society)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 20, 2013, 03:29:43 pm
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Back in 1984, when Chuck was the minister of Windward Unity Church here on Oahu, he taught a number of weekend retreats for the congregation.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041214035343/http://psychologyofvision.com/newsletter_2003.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20041214035343/http://psychologyofvision.com/newsletter_2003.htm)

Chuck Spezzano now says he was enlightened by The Oneness Movement, and he teaches their practices to his followers.

The entire Unity Church is currently dealing with being infiltrated by The Oneness Movement scam http://dougbottorff.com/category/oneness-blessing-fraud/ (http://dougbottorff.com/category/oneness-blessing-fraud/)

I asked the Unity Church if Chuck is still a minister, their reply: "He is no longer a minister with Unity."
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on October 20, 2013, 07:20:15 pm
If Chuck is not a minister , does that mean all the people he married and babies he baptised in his workshops are also just as bogus as his Psychology Of Vision "healing" model/program ??
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 20, 2013, 10:26:08 pm
If Chuck is not a minister , does that mean all the people he married and babies he baptised in his workshops are also just as bogus as his Psychology Of Vision "healing" model/program ??

Baptism is not a legal procedure, it is religious, but I wonder just what he says he is baptizing the babies in? What religion? Or, is it -his- religion, and he is the top minister/guru?

With marriages, the legal part will vary according to the location.  In some places Chuck would need to be an actual minister, maybe he is a minister in the Oneness Movement? I wonder if all those marriages he's performed are actually legit?
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 20, 2013, 10:56:32 pm
For instance, in Hawaii a marriage performer needs to be licensed http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/licensing-of-marriage-performers/ (http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/licensing-of-marriage-performers/) Don't know if Chuck is licensed in Hawaii.

In British Columbia, for a religious marriage ceremony, the religious representative has to be licensed http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/marriage/howto.html#ceremony (http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/marriage/howto.html#ceremony) Properly licensed people are called marriage commissioners. A search can be done here for specific cities, then view who is licensed there http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/search/marriage_commissioners.cgi (http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/search/marriage_commissioners.cgi) Chuck is not licensed in Vancouver B.C. , don't know if he is licensed elsewhere.

Everyone who has been married by him would be wise to double check that they are actually legally married.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 21, 2013, 04:49:35 pm
Psychology of Vision and their franchises have their own language - for instance when they speak of Oneness they are referring to the Oneness Movement . They use words like "giftedness" and "dead zone" along with other words they have coined to mean specific things within their group. They also use a lot of more general Nuage ideas, such as "ascension". Lency and others use pseudo-Hindu terms too. They talk about chakras supposedly opening in various ways using various practices. And there is always danger just around the corner, trainers and followers talk often about "shadows" and other dangers that they have to be constantly concerned about and process. For instance Chuck often claims that we all have just barely "dodged a bullet" but that we can't relax yet, more bad shit is on the way.

POV is designed to keep people always busy, always stressed, always needing to go to more seminars to learn supposed answers to their supposed problems. POV invents "problems" that only they have the cure for. Because POV drains bank accounts and screws people over - they create more problems for people, who then believe they have to stick closer to POV for salvation. POV could just as easily be a fortune teller in a storefront telling their victim that more candles need to be burned, and paid for, to keep a curse at bay.

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 21, 2013, 04:58:37 pm
Some clues for visual id of our culprits - Chuck is rotund, wears brightly colored pseudo Hawaiian shirts. Lency has short white hair.

Jeff and Sue Allen are their top people http://visionworksforlife.com/about-us/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/about-us/)

Francine Girard directs the trainer program http://povcanada.com/trainers/francine-girard/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/francine-girard/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 22, 2013, 11:43:19 pm
Chuck Spezzano is using his own version of Neuro-linguistic Programming. For instance in this horrible ultimately victim blaming video he has done on the theme of domestic violence, he uses the term "embedded commands". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNHV6qmF31I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNHV6qmF31I) "Embedded commands" are specific NLP techniques.

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NLP, ... , relies heavily upon (1) the notion of the unconscious mind as constantly influencing conscious thought and action; (2) metaphorical behavior and speech, especially building upon the methods used in Freud's Interpretation of Dreams; and (3) hypnotherapy as developed by Milton Erickson.

http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html (http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html)

That above quote about NLP could very easily be said also about POV.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 24, 2013, 06:51:20 pm
Chuck and Lency Spezzano tell two entirely different stories about their wealth, specifically about their properties in Hawaii.

Chuck says "I've learned to create all kinds of things. I once decided I was going to get moved to Hawaii without having to, to pay for it. And that's exactly what happened, somebody moved me to Hawaii a couple years later, paid for all the expenses. And you can create anything you want that you believe in."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU)

Lency says, in response to questions about where the $ comes from  "I inherited money from a family farm land sale and we felt it was the best investment we could make for our kids and grandkids. The downpayment on our other property came as a gift from my parents soon after we were married."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhNN5nKUaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhNN5nKUaA)

47-416 WAIHEE PL, Honolulu County, 2 acres, owned by Charles L Spezzano, Lenora K Spezzano. 2013 total property assessed value $696,100

57-20 KUILIMA DR #121, owned by Charles L Spezzano, Lenora K Spezzano. 2013 total property assessed value $1,541,900

(Do parcel searchs here:  http://www.honolulupropertytax.com/Search/GenericSearch.aspx?mode=ADDRESS (http://www.honolulupropertytax.com/Search/GenericSearch.aspx?mode=ADDRESS) )

Chuck and Lency tell their followers that they too can learn to manifest prosperity by imagining it. Chuck and Lency charge followers thousands of dollars for this bogus "advice". This continuing scam enables the Spezzanos to keep up with their property taxes.

When Psychology of Vision raises money from their devotees for their First Nations fund, where does all that money go? This "fund" is not a registered charity.

Psychology Of Vision Promotions Inc http://www.manta.com/ic/mtql87d/ca/psychology-of-vision-promotions-inc (http://www.manta.com/ic/mtql87d/ca/psychology-of-vision-promotions-inc), B.C. Canada, is run by Susan How, a POV trainer. Susan How also administers the First Nations Fund http://povcanada.com/first-nations/ (http://povcanada.com/first-nations/)

A Chuck and Lency Spezzano Realty Reality Check http://www.mortythedog.com/2013/10/a-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-realty_18.html (http://www.mortythedog.com/2013/10/a-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-realty_18.html)




Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 25, 2013, 07:22:32 pm
We've mentioned a Michael North several times in this thread:

*officer of Zhou Enlai Peace Institute, with Chuck Spezzano http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35596#msg35596 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35596#msg35596)

*(the Robert North here is actually Michael North) http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35616#msg35616 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35616#msg35616)

*main organization contact for the Hawaii Forgiveness Project is Michael North http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35643#msg35643 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35643#msg35643)

Chuck Spezzano performed the wedding ceremony for Michael North and his wife

A woman named Ong Kar Khalsa helps run Psychology of Vision Promotions Inc.
http://povcanada.com/contact-us/ (http://povcanada.com/contact-us/)

Michael North on his Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/darwinesque/about (https://www.facebook.com/darwinesque/about) says Ong Kar Khalsa is his daughter

Ong Kar Khalsa also says Michael North is her father https://www.facebook.com/ong.khalsa/about (https://www.facebook.com/ong.khalsa/about) She also says Hari Singh Khalsa is her father, I'm assuming spiritual father

This Hari Singh Khalsa is "one of Yogi Bhajan's original students"
http://www.yogawest.ca/camps/khalsa-mens-camp/ (http://www.yogawest.ca/camps/khalsa-mens-camp/)

Guru Singh led an extraordinarily abusive cult http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id17.html (http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id17.html)

Chuck and Lency did an event with another Yogi Bhajan devotee, Guru Singh. In Lency's promo video she says that she and Chuck "resonate" with Guru Singh's vision. http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35852#msg35852 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35852#msg35852)

Michael North http://www.chinaroyalties.com/en/management/michael-north/#.UmsrGBDBM1I
 (http://www.chinaroyalties.com/en/management/michael-north/#.UmsrGBDBM1I)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 31, 2013, 06:20:29 pm
Here is a great example of what Psychology of Vision and related enterprises sell:
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Do you want to:

    Have happier richer more fulfilling relationships with everyone, including your partner
    Understand how to truly accept others as they are
    Learn how love has no boundaries
    Clear your blocks to scarcity, whether it is wealth, love or any aspect of lack
    Learn what self love really is
    Gain a zest for life never before experienced?

If you answered yes to any of the above then we invite you to join master trainer Jeff Allen and his international trainer wife Sue Allen to this life-changing workshop. Now is the time to invest in YOU.

http://visionworksforlife.com/events/the-essential-relationship-the-next-level-3-day-workshop-west-sussex/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/events/the-essential-relationship-the-next-level-3-day-workshop-west-sussex/)

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The Essential Relationship….The Next Level! – 3-day workshop – West Sussex
Pricing
Earlybird when booked and paid for before 27 October – Solo £200, Couples £350
After 27 October – Solo place £300, Couples £500
100-day Graduates – £175

Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on October 31, 2013, 06:50:31 pm
In a conditional use permit request, a barn on the Spezzano's property is described as "the headquarters for their worldwide networking in the field of Inner Healing". http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm (http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm)

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The Inner Healing Movement refers to a grassroots counseling movement among Christians of various denominations. Its methods are largely based around the calling up of suppressed or hurtful memories in order to deal with them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Healing_Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Healing_Movement)

Many Christians believe the Inner Healing Movement is deceptive and dangerous.

Chuck and Lency Spezzano do invoke the name of Jesus at their joining sessions. Lency claims she channels the group mind energy and that she receives Jesus energy. This is forced on followers, even if they are not themselves Christian.

Survivors of Psychology of Vision say this is extremely disrespectful, especially towards residential school survivors.

The Spezzanos behave as modern day missionaries.

Survivors say their communities need to be rebuilt through health, not through artificial belief, not through the Spezzano doctrine.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 02, 2013, 06:50:19 pm
APTN Investigates will be airing a show soon on the harmful effects of cultic groups, including Psychology of Vision, and Earth Peoples United (Erick Gonzalez), on Haida Gwaii families and communities.

The promo is available online, at the end of the current episode. I'll post a link to the full episode when it is available in about a week.


http://aptn.ca/pages/news/category/investigates/ (http://aptn.ca/pages/news/category/investigates/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 03, 2013, 07:01:19 pm
Ethical therapists do not hypnotize people who may be involved in any court action.  In fact using hypnosis to alter the memory of someone who may eventually be seeking legal action against their abusers, may itself be illegal.

Lency and Chuck Spezzano using hypnosis on Residential School Survivors who may eventually be involved in court action, or other First Nations people who may be in court concerning land claims - the Spezzanos are misleading and mistreating people.

Lency not only uses hypnotism  unethically, she also claims she herself has processed "the missionary figure" that abused First Nations people. She did this for 3 days at an event, insisting that no one talk to her because she was supposedly still processing, yet at the same time she expected everyone to watch her. So, she pretends to be a holy martyr taking on the effects of pain and abuse, for the redemption of her followers/victims. Yuck.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 08, 2013, 08:16:28 pm
Chuck Spezzano says he achieved enlightenment at Oneness University in 2007. He and Lency teach Oneness practices to their own followers. Their trainers also advertise themselves as Oneness Blessing Givers.

Followers are encouraged to visit Oneness University.

Here are some quotes from someone who visited Oneness University in 2011. She was recruited by a Unity church teacher.

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After arriving in India and traveling out of Chennai my concerns began when we drove up to the Oneness University “campus” and realized that it was a locked down facility with guards at the gate and high walls with barbed wire.  It is out in the middle of nowhere, so there wasn’t much of an alternative other than to go into the campus. To me it felt like I had ended up in a minimum security prison with a few people I knew, but we were to be in silence, so I couldn’t talk to them. There were bars on our dormitory windows and guards at the entrance to each dormitory, the dining hall, and the “class room” where we had our daily yoga instruction/indoctrination.

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The circumstances surrounding the activities of the program were so disorienting that it took a few days for me to put it all together and realize that far from a healing retreat, I had ended up half way around the world, and at great expense, in the middle of a cult.  It was like being in an insane asylum.  During the yogas and time spent at the temple, many of the 200 plus people in the program lost total control of themselves and cried out loud, screamed, hit themselves, laughed hysterically, and rolled around on the floor.  Some appeared to be having psychotic breaks.  This was encouraged by the Oneness staff, and no aid was given to these people.  In addition to the chaos surrounding me, I was also dealing with the tactics of the cult designed to break you down and surrender yourself to them.

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Even after we had made it through the interview/indoctrination process (during which the Oneness US rep told us that the program was like a combination of est and getting hit in the head by a 2×4) required by Oneness for us to leave and we were able to get into the cars we had hired to take us back to Chennai, I didn’t actually know if they were going to let us out until the guards stepped away and the gates opened and the cars drove out.

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After getting home I felt traumatized and fell into a very deep depression.  I felt surrounded by emptiness.  I was sleeping about 20 hours a day, which lasted for about two weeks.  Gradually I was able to be up for a few hours more at a time. I had one chant in particular from the yoga sessions that kept repeating in my head, and I had to sing songs to myself to stop the sound of the chant. This problem with the chanting went on for about two weeks.  I had a great deal of trouble relating to anything in my life, including family and friends.  I found that the only people I could comfortably talk to were the others who went on the trip with me.  We were all very traumatized, and got together occasionally to talk about how we were feeling and to see how everyone was doing.  I talked to a therapist, and she said I had PTSD.

http://dougbottorff.com/category/oneness-blessing-scam/ (http://dougbottorff.com/category/oneness-blessing-scam/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 09, 2013, 02:27:30 am
Some quotes from Couple questions alternative healing groups’ activities on Haida Gwaii , more available at link http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/  (http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)

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The other group being discussed in Haida Gwaii is Psychology of Vision. Despite its name, the two founders Lency and Chuck Spezzano are not psychologists.

In fact, Charles Spezzano was fined in 2004 for acting like a psychologist while not being licensed by the state of Hawaii.

Chuck Spezzano told APTN Investigates that because he works internationally he doesn’t need to be licensed. He said he is not a psychologist and calls himself “a coach.”

But he says the work he does is indeed psychology.

Dutheil says the POV sessions were a horrible experience for her.



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APTN Investigates asked Charles Spezzano to explain one of the many type of healing methods POV uses. It’s called an “original mind download.”

“It’s a blessing. And if you’ve ever received a blessing where you can feel it, that’s what a download is meant to be,” he replied.

How does that help a person looking for healing, we asked.

“Basically it provides some wholeness. Where there was a split mind or conflict or something like that, it brings peace,” he said.

We asked him how one becomes qualified to do a download.

“Well, first of all, you experience it and then you learn how to pass it on,” Spezzano replied.

The Spezzano’s are shocked that they are being accused of being a cult and that the work they are doing is dangerous. Chuck Spezzano claims more than 40 years’ experience. Lency Spezzano claims they are a great help to First Nations. She says that wherever POV goes, there is a cultural renaissance in the community.

They help people, insists Charles.

What they do not do is disempower people in order to take their money, he added.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 09, 2013, 04:21:24 am
APTN Investigates video is now available online http://aptn.ca/pages/news/category/investigates/ (http://aptn.ca/pages/news/category/investigates/)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 11, 2013, 03:53:29 pm
There is a report in this thread of an adult who felt suicidal during a POV event. In the APTN Investigates episode about POV, there is a report of youth feeling suicidal after a POV event, in fact the Spezzanos are not welcome back in that area.

If you are involved in POV and have suicidal feelings, please take this seriously, and please get help from a source other than POV. There is lots of good help available that will assist in your recovery.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on November 22, 2013, 05:30:51 pm
Two top Psychology of Vision trainers are now targeting  Upper Nicola Band in Canada. Band members are given this two day event for "free", but these events actually come at great cost, they are recruiting events.

In order to keep their training status with Psychology of Vision, trainers have to stay busy, they have to fulfill annual requirements, such as holding these trainings.

The usual buzz words are here, designed to attract people thinking they will be learning actual leadership skills.

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 Authentic Leadership in Douglas Lake With Melissa Meyer and Doug Anderson

Two Day Psychology of Vision Workshop Nov 23 & 24, 2013 Douglas Lake, Upper Nicola Band

"Authentic Leadership"
With Psychology of Vision Trainers; Melissa Meyer and Doug Anderson

 (Please note Upper Nicola Band Members attendance is no $0.00 charge.)

Authentic Leaders recognize that there has to be a better way" and this is where the surrender or turning one's life over begins. They know that the old way of leadership based on roles, duty and sacrifice no longer work and are inspired to empower everyone around them beyond this. Authentic leaders are prompted to share their gifts and talents and respond to the calls for help. They find the way through situations with ease and grace. As Authentic leaders we understand that leadership is a healing path and a path of modeling and mentoring so others naturally follow us as we continue to move forward. We are committed to our own healing and prefer to find a better way for ourselves, our families, organizations and communities.

Come join Melissa Meyer, Doug Anderson and the Upper Nicola Band Members for an interactive, experiential, transformational weekend, there are sure to be deep healing and some fun times to be experienced this weekend!

Location: N'Kwala School Gymnasium, Douglas Lake Indian Reserve

Event Details: There are 25 seats available for non-Upper Nicola Band members at a cost of $175.00 each, payable (at the door) to the Upper Nicola Indian Band office. Please pre-register with NKwala Manuel at training@uppernicolaband.com or call NKwala at 250-350-3342

Contact Info: NKwala Manuel at training@uppernicolaband.com or call NKwala at 250-350-3342.

Registration: Saturday Nov 23, 2013 9:00 am - 10:00 am

Workshop Times: Saturday and Sunday Nov 23 and 24th from 10am to 5pm. Times are approximate, please note Saturday’s session may go closer to 6 pm.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: moreinfo on November 28, 2013, 06:38:20 am
beware of these tricky words!
 "there has to be a better way and this is where the surrender or turning one's life over begins"
Pov wastes no time taking over who you are ,already making you believe who you are is not good enough, surrendering to pov is giving up your life for their life.
What we possess within ourselves and  with our families is very special and belongs to us not pov, turning one's life over is a huge loss when you let pov convince you that your life is not good enough. Even if we have a tough life , it is still our own life and that is some of what makes us who we are.
 There are ways for support that can allow us to stay in our families to find peace with each other without surrendering who we are. Protect yourself from these spiritual thieves that displace human relationships that are inherent to our families. They make you believe that you are loved and cared for by pov family and rebond with pov members, soon you will be talking their talk and seeking their friendships and praises. Every moment you spend with them, is less time you give to your own family, this includes resources as well. Money that should be given to your own.
Ask yourself, Who do I love more ? My relatives? or POV trainers and pov participants? If your answer is your family , then turn around and walk back to them , leave POV in the dust. Doing this will save you so much time,
time that POV would suck out of you for eternity, and then when you finally one day had enough of POV, you will waste even more time trying to get their "mind manipulations" out of your system, you will grieve for the time wasted with pov and resources it took from you, and the gap between you and your real family.
 The world has alot of challenges , as bad as life can seem for some , suffering in other parts of the world is so unbearable. Children in refugee camps, survivors of war. We can assess our lives and see where we want to invest, if you want your life to improve , directly invest into caring about yourself and your family. Be the one to make that happen.
Don't let  pov scam you into believing that they are going to lead you to the way, cause all your going to hear over and over is " are you willing to surrender?"  Know your worth and perserve it!
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: debbieredbear on November 28, 2013, 06:02:40 pm
I am reading the book "Manson" and this creeped me out, moreinfo. Charles Manson used similar tactics and isolation on his followers. Manson was a gifted manipulator when he read Dale Carnegie's book. He still controls some of his followers, and in fact has made new recruits even though he has been in prison for decades.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on December 11, 2013, 10:51:42 pm
In 2002 Chuck and Lency Spezzano did this event with Fidel Moreno:

Fulfilling the Promise, Living the Vision
Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano.
Canyon de Chelly, Arizona, USA
October 16, 17 and 18, 2002.

"We are asking for your agency and your branch of the Díne Nation to support the Canyon de Chelly retreat"
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35871#msg35871 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35871#msg35871)

In 2004 they did an event at Cloud Eagle Sanctuary at Nambe Pueblo, New Mexico. Fees were to go to Native Vision, Arts and Communications Ltd. attn Fidel Moreno http://web.archive.org/web/20040401202630/http://psychologyofvision.com/event_7thgeneration.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20040401202630/http://psychologyofvision.com/event_7thgeneration.htm)

 “WE ARE THE 7TH GENERATION . . .

“WE ARE THE ONES WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR . . .”

A GATHERING OF VISIONARIES, HEALERS AND TEACHERS

THE “SACRED HOOP” OF ALL NATIONS GATHERING

MAY 10th to 16th, 2004
CLOUD EAGLE SANCTUARY at NAMBE PUEBLO
IN THE LAND OF ENCHANTMENT, NEW MEXICO
30 MINUTES FROM SANTA FE

INVITED SPECIAL GUESTS ARE: CHUCK SPEZZANO OF POV
CHRIS GRISCOM OF THE LIGHT INSITUTE, MARGARET BEHEN-QUITNANA, CHEYENNE/ARAPAHO VISIONARY & TEACHER, CECELIA FIRETHUNDER, LAKOTA VISIONARY AND COMMUNTY ORGANIZER
PRECILIANO CARRILLO, HUICHOL SHAMAN AND SINGER,
LARRY LITTLEBIRD, STORYTELLER, HEALER AND SINGER OF Santa Domingo Pueblo
AND GINNY “LA DONA” GENTRY, of the Eagle lineage from Don Miguel OF THE FOUR AGREEMENTS AND THE TOLTEC WAY

OTHER REGIONAL HEALERS, ELDERS, TEACHERS AND VISIONARIES FROM THE NAVAJO NATION, COCHITTI, SANTA CLARA AND TAOS PUEBLOS WILL ALSO BE FACILITATING NON-PLENARY WORKSHOPS.

7 DAYS OF TEACHING AND VISIONING CIRCLES & 7 EVENINGS OF PRAYER AND HEALING CIRCLES – ORAL HISTORIES, PROPHECIES, TEACHINGS, CEREMONIES AND EVENINGS OF SONG, DANCE AND CELEBRATIONS TO HEAL AND EMPOWER BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO MOVE BEYOND THE PERSONAL PAINS AND FEARS AND VISION THE BIRTHRIGHT AND TASK OF CREATING JOY AND BRINGING THE LIGHT OF GRACE AND HOPE TO A WORLD
THAT IS IN TRANSITION AND SPEEDING TOWARDS CHANGE . . . WE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN NAVIGATE THE COURSE . . . WE ON THE PATH . . . WE CAN SET THE COURSE . . .

FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND ELDERS WELCOME . . . TRADITIONAL NORTHEN* AND SOUTHERN STYLE LODGES* WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE FIRST 100 PARTICIPANTS
SINGLE AND FAMILY TENT AND CAMPING SITES ARE ALSO AVAILBLE – HOTEL & BB LODGING AVAILABLE 20 MINUTES FROM GATHERING.

Hotel/Lodging Reservations by: Cities of Gold Casino Hotel
Tel: 877-455-0515 Fax: 505-455-3060 Email:www.citiesofgold.com


*TRADITIONAL NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STYLE TIPI – SLEEPS 20 PEOPLE
7 DAY AGENDA FOR SPEAKERS, PRESENTERS, FACILITATORS AND PROGRAM

MAY 10-MONDAY- SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION AND MOVEMENT

8:30AM – 7TH GENERATION GATHERING INTRODUCTION- CECELIA FIRETHUNDER – Lakota Visionary, Activist, Educator and Healer and Mother.

9:00 AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO – PLENARY SESSION SPEAKER/PRESENTOR
“WE ARE THE ONES WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR”

12:00 PM – 2:00PM LUNCHMEAL WITH YOUR CLAN/FAMILY IN TIPI

2:00PM – 4PM – CECELIA FIRETHUNDER – “WE ARE THE 7TH GENERATION”

4:00 – 6PM – CLAN/FAMILY CIRCLES

6:00- 7:30PM – DINNER WITH FAMILY/CLAN IN TIPI

8:00 – 10PM – SOUTHERN DRUM – TRADITIONAL BIG DRUM AND DANCE

10:00-12AM – TIPI CREEPING AND SNAGGING(JUST Kidding!!!!!!!!!!!)
sleep, sleep, sleep, SLEEP, SLEEP, SLEEP AND REST FOR THE 2ND DAY.

MAY 11- TUESDAY – SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION AND MOVEMENT

9:00AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO – POV

2:OOPM – 4PM – PETER SCHLIESSMANN – CEO & PRESIDENT OF TOUREXTREM
“ CEREMONY & RITUAL AS ACTION AND ENERGY”

8:00PM-10PM - ZIMBABAWE DRUMS & DANCING

MAY 12 – WEDNESDAY – SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION AND MOVEMENT

9:00AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO- POV

2:00PM – 3PM – CHRIS GRISCOM – THE LIGHT INSTITUTE
“THE LIGHT OF SPIRIT AND THE GRACE OF VISION”

8:OOPM-10PM – NOSOTROS- LATIN & NUEVO FLAMENCO SONG AND DANCE

MAY 13 – THURSDAY – SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION AND MOVEMENT

9:00AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO – POV

2:00PM – 4PM – PRECILIANO CARRILLO – HUICHOL SHAMAN & HEALER
“ THE POWER OF DREAMS, VISIONS & PRAYER”

8:00PM-10PM – MIRAMBA MUSIC AND DANCE


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MAY 14 – FRIDAY – SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION AND MOVEMENT

9:00AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO - POV

2:00PM-4PM - LARRY LITTLEBIRD – STORYTELLER AND SINGER
“FROM ANCESTOR’S TO THOSE YET UNBORN –THE LEGACY”

8:00 – 10PM – BRIGITTE SCHMITZ AND FRIENDS – OPEN MIC –
PERFORMANCE, CHANTING, SONG AND DANCE


MAY 15 – SATURDAY – SUNRISE PRAYER, MEDITATION, AND MOVEMENT

9:00AM – CHUCK SPEZZANO – POV

2:00 – 4PM – “LA DONA” GINNY GENTRY – THE TOLTEC WAY/FOUR AGREEMENTS
“We ARE the WARRIORS of Love, Grace, Peace and Joy . . . Our MISSION is . . . “

9:00PM – 9:00AM – Native American Church Ceremony*

9:00pm – Purification Lodges – MEN’S AND WOMEN’S & MIXED LODGES

MAY 16 – SUNDAY- FEAST, CELEBRATION & GIVAWAY/GIFTING CEREMONY

10:00AM - SUNDAY WORSHIP & PRAYER AND VISION STATEMENT

7:00 PM – FEAST & CELEBRATION – NATIVE ROOTS – AMERICAN INDIAN RAGGAE

For More Info, Please call 505-474-0135 or 505-455 7284 or Email: pejuta@earthlink.net

FEES: US$1000.00 for Individual
US$1,5000.00 per Couple (2)
US$2,500.00 per Family/Organisation (4

http://web.archive.org/web/20040401202630/http://psychologyofvision.com/event_7thgeneration.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20040401202630/http://psychologyofvision.com/event_7thgeneration.htm)
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on December 18, 2013, 08:52:37 pm
Chuck Spezzano posts a daily "healing card" on his Facebook pages and blog. His followers often thank him, claim that the specific card is very meaningful to them at this moment, devotion and gratitude is expressed. Today's card is:

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PASSING THE SHAMANIC TEST
PASSING THE SHAMANIC TEST is the card for today. A Shamanic Test is an initiation to reach a higher place of power and consciousness. It could easily be a life or death situation. You put it all on the line to reach a higher place. The easiest way to pass a Shamanic Test is to use grace which is always given us. Our requests allows us to receive it. Also to call for Divine Love which brings miracles and Divine Presence. What could go wrong then? Then there is no need for challenge but allows us to simply embrace the higher place as Heaven's Will for us... Using grace is the only way to cheat and have greater integrity. Have a fine day!

This is an example of a standard format he uses. On http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/) he has quite the spectacular claim: "Chuck uses healing cards to channel Heaven's Spirit."

The American Cancer Society has been contacted about Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst's b.s. claims about the meaning and possible cures for cancer. Their response includes:

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As you may know, researchers have done many studies to see if there is a link between personality, stress, and cancer. No scientific evidence has shown that a person’s personality or outlook can affect their cancer risk.

One of Chuck's influences is Bert Hellinger, who invented a very controversial pseudo-therapy, systemic constellations. Chuck does his own spin on this in seminars.

The method has been called quantum quackery and pseudo-science. Antifascists have taken Hellinger to task for this dubious therapy.

Bert Hellinger was a Roman Catholic friar for a time, Chuck Spezzano studied to become a Catholic priest. I think Chuck has invented his own Nuage religion, drawing upon many other systems and beliefs, and he has set himself up as the top dog.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on December 27, 2013, 08:38:06 pm
Some Spezzano family members and supporters have responded to the growing discussion and critique of Psychology of Vision. Often the response is along the lines of telling us that we are engaged in character assassination, running a smear campaign, are unprofessional, attacking, harassing, and that anyone who has had problems because of POV are unique individuals who already had serious problems. The Spezzanos are described as "clean, transparent, and genuinely focused on doing the highest good for everyone that they can".

I encourage family members and supporters to join in on the conversation, read through the forum first for awhile, introduce themselves, and discuss these concerns about POV.

More than one person has felt suicidal directly because of exposure to POV. POV is a large group awareness training, these trainings are untested, unsafe, controlling, money making operations. POV has been horrible for residential school survivors.
Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on January 04, 2014, 08:54:19 pm
In order to be an advanced trainer, people have to go to Oneness University in India. They describe themselves as "Psychology of Vision Trainer and Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver."

Some trainers are known for being harsh and confrontational, including Joanne Roberts of Prince Rupert, B.C., Canada. http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/about-us/ (http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/about-us/) Survivors report that some trainers are heartless, without compassion, and that they leave their victims frightened and confused.

When First Nations communities are infiltrated, and authority members become part of this destructive group, the community suffers. Job opportunities, education, general morale, and contracts can all be influenced.

The Spezzanos have been running the Psychology of Vision money making machine for awhile. I think they have people addicted. Just like in an abusive relationship, they are able to manipulate and keep people hooked. Hopefully their followers will eventually understand that the Spezzanos are not magical, they are not holy, not special. Being made to feel a certain way in a seminar doesn't mean the trainers are gifted, good people. Followers are just being played, strung along like fish on a hook. Large group awareness trainings can produce a rush, because our bodies and minds have a response to being messed with. The trainers are abusive and then seem to offer the cure. Just like abusive relationships.

From the outside, it is easy to see that the Spezzanos use First Nations people to enhance their own reputation and marketing. White people who attend seminars are told that there is the extra bonus of First Nations people there. White people can feel like they are going to get something special and that they are going to help "Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet.".

I'd like to see copies of any waivers and other paperwork POV has participants sign, feel free to message me if you can pass on copies, or post them here.

Unless POV is brought down by possible illegalities, if they are involved in financial crimes, or if they are sued by former members, I wonder what will stop this money making fraud machine. Fortunately more people are becoming educated, and more are deciding to not fall into the POv trap.



Title: Re: research needed on Chuck Spezzano's " Psychology Of Vision healing model"
Post by: Epiphany on January 05, 2014, 10:05:35 pm
Chuck Spezzano has described Visionary Leaders Canada (Prince Rupert, BC, Canada, run by two POV trainers Betty Lou Hunt and Joanne Roberts, they also run Cornerstone Wellness) as "Just an amazing group of people with a beautiful vision to move First Nations and Business forward! Do check them out!"

Hunt and Roberts in various promo literature for events, brochures, flyers, and online, have used several paragraphs of text from someone attributed as "Oneness by Rasha". Especially when it is the event description it would be easy to assume that this is from a POV member, or at least done by permission.

But it turns out that Rasha is not allied with POV, in fact she critiqued "Oneness University" and deekshas back in 2007. (scroll down to August 2007 http://www.onenesswebsite.com/speak.html (http://www.onenesswebsite.com/speak.html) ). And she did not give Hunt & Roberts permission to use her work.

Rasha gave us an official statement:

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"The book entitled Oneness, which I transcribed, is not associated in any way with any other teacher, guru, or organization that may also be using the name “Oneness.”  I have, thankfully, never received “deeksha” or a so-called “Oneness Blessing” from anyone affiliated with POV or the group in India calling themselves “Oneness University." I do not wish to have unsuspecting, sincere spiritual seekers confuse the pure teachings of Oneness, who some people consider to be God, with the agenda of that organization." Rasha
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on January 09, 2014, 02:48:31 pm

It seems that one of the persons interviewed for the APTN docu is being harassed on his Facebook site by Mr Spezzano Jr:

https://www.facebook.com/thomas.greene.71653

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Thomas, I am so disappointed that you are continuing to slander my parents. From the intensity of your posts, it seems like you are not open to doing balanced research and are perpetuating and creating your own slanderous libel. This is illegal in both the US and Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

I can see you care about your community deeply, but it also seems you have let that feeling take you on a personal rampage in a completely inappropriate direction. I personally ask you to desist from making attacks against my parents and Psychology of Vision on your Facebook account or otherwise. Continuing to do so is illegal, along with the rest of the misinformation being peddled about by amateur, self-titled "reporters" and "researchers." I did a thorough review of everything you sent to me. There are some links describing cults, support groups, etc., but none of those platforms have anything to do with my parents or their model. The other links are shamefully bad reporting and research. Almost every attack was completely untrue and the rest were taken out of context. The APTN "Plastic Healers" was especially bad, unbalanced reporting. Their cursory research was ridiculous and they also failed to mention the many other special reports about the positive impacts Psychology of Vision is providing and has provided in First Nations communities that they have done. You may not be aware of the nature of the Internet, but everything you sent was a non-professional site. Much of it was completely unrelated to my parents. You can't take everything you find on the Internet as truth, much of it is not. Unfortunately, it appears you have been having trouble with that discernment. I will attempt to clear up some of your confusion so that you can move on with your life, do some actual good for your community, and stop breaking the law. You wrote this to me: "your parents place their own heads or brains on their "participants" head or place their agenda/dogma in between the "participants" brain and heart so the answers the people find are your parents version and ideas on what is good for them, this is not healing, it is thought reform and mind control. " That is complete and utter nonsense. Where did you read that? Or did someone tell that to you? Clearly you have never been to one of my parents workshops, so I wonder how you could come up with something so slanderous yourself. What you've written, along with the rest of your posts, are simply not true. What is this that you post?: "some cult researchers say that the PoV cult is one of the most evil cult they've ever seen because of what they did to the residentiol school survivors." Again, this is ridiculous. Who are the researchers? Where is this coming from? Thomas, just because anyone on the Internet can post anything about anything, it doesn't mean it's verified fact - just because it's on a website - especially a personal blog - it does not make it truth. My parents have also had a lot of success in helping residential school survivors heal and move on with their lives, which is their goal in providing these seminars free to First Nations participants. My parents don't take ANY money from First Nations participants. First Nations seminars and workshops are donated at no cost, unless the participant is NOT First Nations. For example, if other international students want to take the courses (that are often translated into Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, German, Italian, an others - requiring a staff), they have to pay for their courses. This shouldn't be some horrifying shock to you. It's the way business has occurred around the world for millennia. Most schools of thought do charge training fees or tuition to keep their schools running: Harvard University, The Academy of Art, most everyone. What is unique about my parents is that they donate their seminars to First Nations and other groups around the world. It is not to make money. It is to give back. You say their participants never "heal or enjot their lives, they always have to chase the "answer" which they'll never get." Thomas, this is simply not true. My parents' model is designed to give individuals the personal tools to heal themselves and connect to their higher self, or whatever spiritual belief system the participant chooses to adhere to with their own free will. My parents have worked with First Nations, Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Native Americans, Buddhists, Shintoists, Confucianists, and even atheists. Their model is not to enforce their belief system upon anyone, their practice is based upon the simple principle of forgiveness. As you forgive the outside world, you forgive the outside world, you forgive yourself and heal, and as you forgive yourself and heal, you also forgive and heal your perception of the outside world. It's not rocket science - nor is it brainwashing. In fact, it directly opposes cults, brainwashing, mind control, or any of the nastiness that you post. You also say, A Course in Miracles is cult. It is not. Though your definition of cult seems to be anything that is spiritual? Here you can see a number of the most respected individuals in the world: "Since it first went on sale in 1976, over 2 million copies of A Course in Miracles (ACIM) have been sold worldwide and the text has been translated into twenty languages. ACIM is distributed globally, forming the basis of a range of organised groups.[31] The teachings of A Course in Miracles have been supported by commentators and authors such as Robert Schuller,[32] Oprah Winfrey,[33] and Eckhart Tolle.[34] "A Course In Miracles" is also taught in many Unity churches.[35] However, due to ACIM's claims to "clarify" or even supersede[36] some of the teachings of orthodox Christianity, the book has been judged negatively by some Christians." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles#Reception

My parents also have NO affiliation whatsoever with Oneness University. They and some of their students attended some of their courses a number of years ago, but were shocked and disgusted to learn about some of their practices. My mom actually spearheaded a campaign to learn and expose the truth about Oneness University. My parents do not support their practices, community, or methods. They have wanted nothing to do with that organization once they had an opportunity to learn more about them. They adamantly steer people away from that organization, their practices, and beliefs. They would NOT want their students to be affiliated with that organization in any capacity. You and your so-called "researchers" need to get your facts straight. If you attempt to destroy someone, as you are attempting to do both my parents and all the tens of thousands of people around the world they have helped, you have to have the mental willpower to do balanced research. Without a balanced, analytical approach to what you are doing, you are manipulating all of the people who are reading your posts. To be honest, it seems you have been just as brainwashed by this misinformation as anyone a part of a real cult. It's worrisome, unhealthy, and downright illegal to pursue these untrue attacks. We are now in the process of cleaning up this misinformation. We will likely have to take legal action against the defamers to clear up the misinformation and slander they are spreading and issue a public apology. If you have any further questions or attacks, I would be happy to educate you further about your ignorance. Hopefully I can then continue to clear up the damage that you have been doing to thousands of people around the world, not just my parents. Again, I request that you desist in your illegal pursuits of public defamation and character assassination of Chuck and Lency Spezzano and also let go of your slanderous, unfounded attack against and character assassination of Chuck and Lency Spezzano and also let go of your slanderous, unfounded attack against Psychology of Vision and its students and trainers. Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org
Christopher Haokalani Spezzano

I have also made copies of our conversations and screenshots of your public defamation posts on Facebook to hold you legally accountable for any further unfounded damage you choose to do.

Spezzano Jr is not only putting emotional stress on Mr Greene ('I am so disappointed'), he's being racist and using the old stereotype of the 'stupid ndn' by telling him he isn't able to do a valid, 'balanced' research.
 
Junior also cannot see (also pretty usual for Nuagers) that there is a huge difference between criticism and libel. So stuff which does not please him or his parents does not qualify as 'libel'. Many a plastic and fake does not like to be criticized and called out for what they do, but this does not happen to be libel or slander.
In the case at hands, it cannot be libel since everything NAFPS got has been taken from PoV sites and thus is information provided by their very selves.

There are numerous more racist undertones:  e.g. just caring about the community, too daft to see the big picture, in one word: a 'stupid ndn'.
So he says he 'personally asks' Mr Greene to 'desist from attacks'. First of all, it isn't attacks, it is posting facts. But perhaps it is not all that easy for him to see his parents exposed for what they are, and he will have been exposed to their rhubarb for all or most of his life. But his personally asking someone to stop criticism does not make continuing opposition illegal, as he choses to insinuate.

Junior's attack on APTN with 'especially bad, unbalanced reporting' and 'ridiculous research' is racist again. Despite their running a renowned and professional TV station, as 'Injuns' they are being defamed as 'amateur „reporters“'. Yes, it must hurt terribly to be outdone in an interview by a […] (please insert racist ephitet) and having to backpeddle to „I'm a mere coach, no psychologist“. These […] are getting sooo uppity, aren't they? They won't even know their place nowadays and shut their ndn faces while white masters or Great White Fathers are giving them a load of BS. Times are getting simply dreadful. [sarcasm off]

And of course there is a lot of dangerous, untrue, ridiculous etc stuff on the internet – that's why Junior's parents' sites are on, e.g., and that's why he is able to post racist BS on facebook.
There is a claim of his parents having been able to help survivors of residential schools. Oh alright, he doesn't continue the sentence, perhaps he meant they „helped them out of their money“, or „out of their healthy mind“ or something like that. Where's the proof, Christopher? Where are the umpteenthousand RS survivors who were helped? Let them step forward for a few expertises by real psychologists, not by PoV-“trainers“ and such. We want reliable, hard-working scientists to evaluate these claims.

Not to forget: if Chuck S. is so convinced he is helping tens of thousands – why doesn't he have his PoV peer-reviewed? I mean, by real scientists, not by a bunch of snake-oil vendors. Let's see what renowned psychologists make of this so-called therapy. If it is so convincingly excellent as the Spezzanos want to make us believe, then the therapy should pass the review with flying colours.

And there is this gem:
It's the way business has occurred around the world for millennia.
Business? I thought they were on about a therapy! Ah so. Thanks for the clarification, Christopher.

So all of Junior's drivel basically amounts to him publically admitting that his parents do not offer a therapy, they are running a for-profit business to finance their life-style.

Oh, and 2 million people did ACIM? Remember the line of „Eat sh!t – 10 billion flies cannot be wrong“.... On the other hand, 2 million out of 200 (only USA) or probably 400 million (including Europe) – that's not all that much to write home about, innit? Although it is enough to finance a comfy life for a handful of persons. But again: it's a claim, no proof offered.

And Ms Lency 'spearheaded a campaign to learn and expose the truth about Oneness University'?
Perhaps this was a covert action – there's nothing on the internet about this... So, where's the proof, Christopher?

Junior also accuses Mr Greene of 'character assassination'. Funny thing about this is that also German Nuagers and plastics come up with this. The German version (okay, so Germans are said to be efficient) also happens to be a bit more impressive, literally translated we call this „assassination of reputation“. However, there is no such crime in any code of law.


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Hi Thomas, how can you list Morty the Dog as a credible source? It's one of the most unprofessional sites I've ever come across, and again it is rife with misinformation. I would not continue to cite that site as a credible resource to go on the offensive. It also seems to be the main source you share. That you think such a site is credible is what is shocking to me, and that's what I'm trying to get across to you. Morty the Dog, PSIRAM, and NAFPS are unprofessional sites that could be anyone. Both the PSIRAM and NAFPS are both exhaustive in content but again lack credibility. Some of the "research" is simply laughable. The thread on PSIRAM is less than five people doing a bunch of guesswork (or even fewer people pretending to be multiple individuals - you have no idea because the site is unproffessaional [sic] and not credible) between points of misinformation. It's horrible, and it will be corrected. PSIRAM is more academic in its approach - but still unprofessional. WikiPedia itself cannot be seen as a source for verified truth in news or the academic or professional communities, so these knockoffs of Wikipedia fall even further from the mark. The reason for that is anyone could type anything as reported fact, even things that are the furthest thing from the truth, and people like you believe it.
Christopher Haokalani Spezzano

What's worse is that you are perpetuating the misinformation on these sites as professional and academic when they are not.
Christopher Haokalani Spezzano

As far as I have read it, what is published by NAFPS, Morty, Grifters and Psiram may be 'worrisome' and 'unhealthy' as far as the Spezzanos are concerned, as it (hopefully) will decrease their income. Why, they may even have to look for a real, honest job in their ripe age for a change. What we publish, however, is not illegal and it isn't untrue.

And of course Christopher cannot refrain from some racist bits and pieces in offering to educate Mr Greene about his ignorance. Is this something like an obsession with the racist stereotype of the 'stupid ndn' we see here? Christopher may want to take a few more PoV seminars – what was it he wrote again:
As you forgive the outside world, you forgive the outside world, you forgive yourself and heal, and as you forgive yourself and heal, you also forgive and heal your perception of the outside world.

Christopher also believes NAFPS, Psiram, Monthy the Dog, and Grifters Hotel are all lacking credibility, they're unprofessional, and even un-academic. Unfortunately, he's getting on slippery terrain here and calling Psiram un-academical in one sentence, then „more academic“ in another, and his mis-spillings of unprofessional give away he's edgy. Let's take this as an indication the Spezzanos are somewhat worried about their pleasant lifestyle and income.

Perhaps we need to enter some of his sentences into our Nuage to plain English dictionary....

Nuage speak: „They're unprofessional and un-academic“ translates to:
„F---, they're hitting the nail right on the head. They got me by the b---! How do I get out of this mess and keep my income on comfy levels?“

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on January 19, 2014, 07:19:52 pm
Several people have reported feeling suicidal during and after POV seminars. Based on descriptions of what happens in seminars, my guess is that many, many people have felt suicidal, triggered by the abusive POV practices.

Turns out this is used as a selling point.

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The process of going through self annihilation is shattering. You must face the horrendous self hatred we all have buried inside us, which we glimpse only shallowly when we are most depressed. In this process you must face everything you judge in yourself: every flaw, every mistake, every failure, every mortifying embarrassment, every shame, every imperfection and all of your self disgust. It isn't pretty. You want to kill yourself.

So POV tells people that they have to go through this process, in order to eventually find what POV defines as God.

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm)

Lency claims that we all have "horrendous self hatred" buried inside, but she is wrong. Many of us do not. Any of us who do, can find help perhaps from a healthy faith community, and also find counsel with a licensed, ethical, therapist.

Chuck and Lency Spezzano make b.s. up, convince people they have these b.s. problems that only they the Spezzanos understand, and then take lots of $$$ from their victims in exchange for supposed cures.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on January 20, 2014, 09:55:05 pm
Apparently, Spezzano Jr so far did not give up harassing Mr Greene:

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Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
Thomas, you didn't answer my questions.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
Secondly, you can't pin the expenses of travel and living on Psychology of Vision. They get no benefit from that. That should be clear and logical to you. In fact, one of the main reasons why their are program fees is because it is expensive to throw an event with lodging, food, travel, and sometimes international interpreters. This really shouldn't be some earth-shattering revelation. This is how business is done everywhere in the world. Everywhere. You are pinning all of the associated fees of life, expenses and choices that each person has to make as a grown up in this world, onto Psychology of Vision.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
It would be as if I claimed that Columbia University was a cult and teaching me mind control because I went to school there and I had to pay associated of actually living in New York City, while also paying for my tuition and student life fees (that I would pay at any university). Do you see how crazy that sounds?

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
Again, I am asking you to stop this rampage against Psychology of Vision and my parents. The information you are spreading is not true.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
My parents and some of their students attended Oneness University for a little while, but they soon realized that it was not for them. They have no affiliation whatsoever with Oneness University. They do not endorse them in any way.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
Again, the links you sent are not professional. Professional research is done with a scientific, annalytical approach. It is done by peers. Amateur researchers don't often know the first things about doing credible research. Thomas, these sites are creating false materials and spinning the truth to get Internet clicks.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
You are feeding into these sites. Can you please tell me which ones you are contributing to and which posts you've made? I'd like to be able to have the opportunity to counter your arguments in a professional way.

Christopher Haokalani Spezzano
Please answer my questions honestly, I've done the same for all of yours. Did Laura D giving Erick Gonzalez a gift of $50,000? Also, was she romantically enamored with Erick Gonzalez at any time? I'm also curious if Laura D now romantically involved with you? These issues all seem to be very important in regards to the stories you are peddling on the Internet and your Facebook page. I will do my very best to answer any and all of your questions. My parents have nothing to hide, and they've done nothing wrong.

Again, Junior gives us a lot of allegations and no proof, some different racist stereotypes for a change, plus that he now seems to seek refuge to a little smear campaign...

First of all, he is now employing a different racist stereotype by using the term 'rampage' to characterise Mr Greene's efforts to educate the public. The racist stereotype chosen now of course is the 'savage ndn'.

Christopher once more says his parents run a business. This is what NAFPS, Psiram, Morty the Dog, and Grifters Hotel have been saying all the time: PoV is a business, it is no science, and it is not done out of charity to help persons in distress. Other than to help them out of their money, that is. So thanks for another confirmation.

But, Christopher, since you claim to have had an education at a university, you should be aware of the differences between a business and a university. Unfortunately, you aren't. Of course Columbia (if that really was your alma mater, you send your former profs cringing with shame) is no cult. A university, in particular a renowned one, provides its attendants with a diploma, accepted in the business world and in science, on which they can build a life-long career. It is rather pretentious to equate a pyramid scam like PoV with an honourable university. With PoV, persons participating can only expect a sheet of paper not recognized anywhere outside PoV. A university also does not restrict its research to look for further ways to make money from its students, but does independent, scientific research, and this is a far cry from PoV.

Actually, if your parents' enterprise did happen to be a university, their methods and practices would be subject to peer review. Clearly, this has not been the case, it is not presently, and they are trying their utmost to prevent this from ever happening. Just why, since they seem to be so convinced they got the cure-all of all personal problems? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Things being as they are, Christopher's comparison of his parents' outfit to an honourable, renowned university comes across as conceited and pretentious. It seems exposition to PoV makes one lose one's grip of reality and facts.

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My parents have nothing to hide, and they've done nothing wrong.

Oh? What about this little slap Spezzano Sr got in Hawaii for posing as real psychologists?
What about all these trumpeting announcements as 'the world's most renowned psychologist' on numerous websites? Why are there no seminars offered in the USA outside of Hawaii?

And we're also curious why the Spezzanos left California in a hurry in 1982/3, after Chuck having set up shop in a private practice just a few years before? Was this simply because he needed the change to a warm climate with a sea-breeze – oh, wait a minute.... he had this in California already.

We also may detect a certain obsession with professionality or amateurism in Christopher:

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Professional research is done with a scientific, annalytical approach. It is done by peers. Amateur researchers don't often know the first things about doing credible research.

It is quite evident that Christopher isn't able to recognize professional research, even if it bites his behind. First of all, a professional, university-educated professional may be expected to be able to spell. It is somewhat embarassing to publish mis-spillings like „annalytical“, or even „their“ instead of 'there', and even grammatical glitches like „Did she giving...“. I must say, in my day, a course in sociology and politics – as Christopher claims to have done – meant that one not only knew a lot of 10-Dollar-words, but you were also expected to spell them correctly.

Perhaps all these orthographic and grammatic accidents reveal that some people are getting a bit nervous. This would be quite appropriate, since Christopher choses to dig up something from the relic box of racist stereotypes:

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Did Laura D giving Erick Gonzalez a gift of $50,000? Also, was she romantically enamored with Erick Gonzalez at any time? I'm also curious if Laura D now romantically involved with you?

This is not just insolent but goes beyond.
First of all, Christopher here attempts to whitewash the culprit, and turn a victim into the wrongdoer.

A plastic seeking to establish sexual relationships to his female students is something very well known to us here at NAFPS. Many of the plastics do; it is one way in which they try to establish dominion over their supporters and control them. Our boards also offer various examples of plastics inventing so-called ceremonies involving sexual relations, claiming these were genuine native.

Often, plastics are having such relationships while being married or maintaining a longterm relationship to someone they largely keep away from their business. This enables them to claim the marriage or relationship was wrecked which of course is used to raise hopes in the student to become this lady's replacement. It is also not unusual for a plastic to have sexual relations to more than one of their students at the same time, telling them to keep this quiet so that the other students don't become jealous. Just look at various threads here at NAFPS, there are several examples.

Another category of plastics is not content on starting relationships to those of his students willing enough, but prey on the reluctant ones. This perhaps gives them a more profound impression of their abilities. There are also various examples of such behaviour in our threads. Still another category of plastics commit rape which makes it very plain that this is not about sexual needs or desires, but about dominion, control, and exerting power.

Any such a relationship between a 'master' and a student also is not a relationship between two consenting and equal adults – it cannot be. There will always be power distinctions, an imbalance in power between the persons involved, which again shows such relations are about dominion and control in the first place. Exerting power and control over others is what the plastic is after and one strong motivation for them to enter this business, and a plastic can only maintain the flow of cash coming in as long as he is able to maintain control and dominion over his students.

As far as Gonzalez is concerned, he seems to be afraid to just rely on sweet-talking and also employs various drugs to make his students stay & pay.

Anyways, it is wrong and insolent to call such relationships "romantic", as Christopher does. This constellation is not about romance, never was, and never will be. While such a relationship lasts, it is employed to make women comply with the demands of the plastic. When the relationship, or the commitment to the cult, has ended, such an allegation is also convenient to smear the credibility of a person - whether the allegation happens to be true or whether it is a lie to begin with.

In which way is Christopher's allegation concerning Ms D racist? There are several aspects. One of them is the soooper-potent non-white male (as I take it Christopher will have swallowed Gonzalez claims of being Maya hook, line, and sinker) who also happens to be far better equipped than your usual white male. And of course to a racist, all these potent, abundantly equipped non-white males are eager to lay white women, 24/7. The racist even goes farther and believes that once a woman has experienced such a superior non-white stallion, they are damaged and can never again be content with a white man. Of course women inclined to have sexual relations with a non-white persons will be 'loose women' to the racist who thus relegates them into a lesser class.

Actually, this meant quite an effort to dig down into the racist relic box that it is hard to believe a person not even 40 years of age holds such beliefs. Two possibilities come to mind: Christopher only wrote what his father (whose age is far more in congruence with having been exposed to such stereotypes) told him to write, or Christopher passed on his password to his FB account.

Another possibility is that this attitude reflects which values and attitudes Christopher had taught to him in his parental home.

Wait a minute – and persons passing on attitudes like this are out to help First Nations, Asians etc to evolve, and to heal them? Errrrmmm....

Another racist stereotype this little smear campaign of Christopher's involves is once more the 'stupid ndn' which, again, is aimed at Mr Greene for allegedly believing the tales of a 'loose woman' and taking them serious, so that he is prompted to mutate into a 'savage' going on „rampants“.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on January 20, 2014, 10:18:39 pm
In regards to analysis, Chuck Spezzano in his book If It Hurts, It Isn't Love, states:

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Analyzing a problem is resisting the solution, because to analyze is to break up the whole into little pieces by thinking we will find the answer there. "Analyze" is really "anal lies"

http://books.google.com/books?id=_fEjIeMzeaYC&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=%22chuck+spezzano%22+anal+lies&source=bl&ots=OY8iacq7k3&sig=HcTPDuMmpmutDxHZDjnpincGK08&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eJ3dUqLgKYGHogT9g4DQAQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22chuck%20spezzano%22%20anal%20lies&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=_fEjIeMzeaYC&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=%22chuck+spezzano%22+anal+lies&source=bl&ots=OY8iacq7k3&sig=HcTPDuMmpmutDxHZDjnpincGK08&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eJ3dUqLgKYGHogT9g4DQAQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22chuck%20spezzano%22%20anal%20lies&f=false)



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on January 31, 2014, 07:58:50 pm
Because Christopher Spezzano continues to try to bully critics on Facebook, I want to encourage him and others to join the discussion here, if they can be civil, and respect the rules. Facebook just isn't going to work for a proper discussion. Bullying doesn't help either.

In regards to bullying - attempts to discredit critics by bringing up their possible 12 step meeting participation is so wrong. Any of us working to be clean and sober deserve some basic human dignity. Claiming that critics are bad because they may have struggled with substance abuse, may have gone to meetings, just makes bullies look like what they are - bullies.

Neither does the "woman scorned" tactic work either. Claiming that a survivor is "just" a woman scorned, and so should not be listened to, is a classic attempt to discredit the messenger and distract from the message. 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: debbieredbear on January 31, 2014, 09:48:49 pm
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In regards to bullying - attempts to discredit critics by bringing up their possible 12 step meeting participation is so wrong. Any of us working to be clean and sober deserve some basic human dignity. Claiming that critics are bad because they may have struggled with substance abuse, may have gone to meetings, just makes bullies look like what they are - bullies.

I second this. I was at a spiritual event, to which a big fraud came. He was NOT leading this. The person who lead it was "the real deal." The leader asked two young men to sing for him. Before they sang, they thanked him and others for helping them get clean and sober. The fraud, when he got a chance to speak, went on and on about how HE had never drank and HE had never used drugs. The women on either side of me, gasped at his rudeness. Some people think that never drinking and never using drugs makes them superior. It does not.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 02, 2014, 11:16:09 pm
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Our kahuna (Hawaiian shaman) wrote a book called Change We Must, and this is the month where we can prepare physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually for transformation.

This is from Chuck Spezzano's December 2008 Nightlight Newsletter. There is quite a bit wrong about this sentence and this sentence also represents the general wrongness of Chuck's entire Psych-Nuage endeavors.

I don't think kahuna = "Hawaiian shaman". I don't know what he means by "our kahuna" - don't know if he means his family has one, Psychology of Vision has one, or if he is saying that Hawaii has one.

He says "our kahuna" "wrote a book called Change We Must". So he is saying that "our kahuna" was Nan Veary, author of Change We Must: My Spiritual Journey.

But  this is not accurate. Nana Veary was not a kahuna, never claimed to be.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=773.msg32181#msg32181 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=773.msg32181#msg32181) Here she is on a list of Recommended Reading - Native Hawaiian Resources.


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Nana Veary

Change We Must
The life story of one of Hawai‘i’s most respected kupuna. She tells delightful stories of growing up with her grandparents, learning ho‘oponopono, feeding sharks, listening to plants, and her religious journey of spirituality from ‘aumakua to Pentecostalism to Unity to Zen Buddhism.

Kupuna does not equal kahuna.

So Chuck (who also claims that he himself is an initiated kahuna) got all that wrong. He then uses what he has mangled for his own personal agenda.

Credit is due to the good folks at Huna is not Hawaiian https://www.facebook.com/AboutHuna (https://www.facebook.com/AboutHuna)  for helping understand this.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 03, 2014, 11:51:41 pm

There is actually something like a peer review on PoV available:

http://miami.uni-muenster.de/servlets/DerivateServlet/Derivate-2119/diss_elbina.pdf

This is an inaugural dissertation:
Abdelwahab Elbina: Psychology in modern everyday perception, experience, and actions. Münster 2004

On p. 231 ff, Elbina points out:

„The scene of healing the soul in our contemporary therapy society is very manyfold, historically intertwined in a complex way and in part hardly manageable. Nonetheless, one may speak today of a sort of parallel three-worlds therapy society resp mainly of three therapy cultures co-existing side by side:

1. The regular culture of the world of lawful therapies
[…]

2. Those therapies which enjoy scientific recognition resp are scientifically founded, but have not as yet been introduced to the catalogue of health insurance paid therapies, like e.g. client centered therapy, family therapy, or systemic therapy. This second type of therapy culture often is discursively integrated in a universitarian/academic framework [...]

3.  Apart from these two worlds of therapy cultures, one can encounter, in a manner of speaking in the wild, a fastly increasing, unmanageable abundance of wild alternativ therapy forms which are neither interested in scientific recognition nor in recognition by health insurances (the „free“ alternative therapy culture).
[...]

The alternative culture of wild therapies has contributed to the emergence of an approach of „He who helps is right“. During this research of today's psycho-culture, I encountered the following forms of alternative therapies (unsorted due to reasons of capacity and space): „Primal Scream Therapy“ (Arthur Janov), „Tantric Approach“ („Orgasmic Potential!), the „Healing Power of Erotic Energy“ (Osho Rajneesh/Baghwan), „Psychology of Vision“ (Chuck Spezzano, 2001), „Suggestion Therapy“, „Positive Psychology“, „NLP Therapy“, „Perceptual Cybernetics […]“

There are in fact more than two pages of so-called alternative therapies listed by Mr Elbina – among the others are:
Enneagram Seminars, Psycho-Somatic Energetics and Energy Healing, Radical Therapy, Sound Therapy, Touch for Health, Physio-Holistic Therapy, Hazelden Therapy, Family Constellation according to Bert Hellinger, Spiritual Lightwork, Breath Therapy, Shamanic Work with the Inner Child, Feldenkrais and Dance with Waveworks, Psychedelic Therapy, Aura-Soma Therapy, Work of Byron Katie, anthroposophically oriented psychotherapy, Psychotonics, astrological psychotherapy, Light Healing, Crystal Therapy, Mind Machines Therapy, Mind-Body Medicine, Craniosacral Therapy, Osteopathy, Craniosacral Balancing, Emotional Release, Psycholytic Therapy, Dolphin Therapy, Colour Light Therapy, Shamanic Drumming, Orgone Therapy, Acupressure, Bach Blossoms, Neo-Tantra, Rolfing, Satsang, Psychogenetics according to Chris Griscom, Prana Healing, Channeling, Feng Shui, Core Energetics Therapy, Impasse-Priority Therapy, Transpersonal Psychotherapy, Healing Hypnosis, Exstatic Trance, Holotropic Breathwork, Soul Retrieval, Selfresonant Healing, Body-Mind Centering, Body Scan, Focussing, Hoffman Quadrinity Process, Recall Therapy, Kinesiology, Behavioural Kinesiology, Brahma Kumaris, Reincarnation Therapy and many more.

The dissertation earned Mr Elbina the title of a Doctor in Psychology, so this does give us an idea which standing „Psychology of Vision“ has in academia and scientifically-based Psychology.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 05, 2014, 03:29:35 pm
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Spezzano has told audiences that he has seen, for example, cancer and haemerrrhoids cured through his use of Psychology of Vision, which is influenced by Course material.

(The Course referred to is A Course in Miracles)

New Age: A Guide : Alternative Spiritualities from Aquarian Conspiracy to Next Age, Daren Kemp, Edinburgh University Press, 2004 - pg 22
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 05, 2014, 04:23:59 pm
Jeff Allen in the UK is a POV master trainer. He and his wife Sue run Vision Works for Life, which is directly POV related. He is a member of the POV Steering Committee, which in the 2011 POV trainer's manual are listed as Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Jeff Allen, Hiromi and Hideaki Kurihara, Julie Wookey, and Francine Girard.

He claims an:

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early and powerful connection to the land, the wildlife, and the tribal and shamanic practices of Africa.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 05, 2014, 10:17:02 pm

Christopher Spezzano is still bullying Mr Greene on Facebook:

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The stories that are being spread on these sites are ridiculous and often lewd. Are you aware that Grifters and NAFPS both have posted falsified information, quotes, and even book titles? Do you stand behind this? Can you see that anyone can post anything on those sites? Well, almost anything, nothing we've posted to try and clear up these materials is kept on those defamation sites very long. Administrators seem to delete comments almost instantly if it counters or disagrees with the hate campaign that those sites have launched against us with your help. These sites have no professional standing, these are not peers reviewing others in an open, dignified manner. The people involved with these sites can pretend to be a anyone and hide in the shadows as they lie and create more fodder for their and your hate campaign. No one uses their real names. There is no ability to provide a rebuttal. It's awful and these people want to destroy us, it sounds like they would be happy if we were wiped from the earth. As one human being to another, I can't tell you what an awful experience this is for us, especially because my parents have done nothing wrong.

So then, Christopher, please do provide information as to exactly which information put up here or at Grifters Hotel was 'falsified'. However, this does not involve information which got hastily changed and adjusted on PoV et al. sites after the horse had bolted. If something was 'falsified', as you claim, this means changes were effected malevolently and on purpose. You want to give proof for an accusation like this.

And quite to contrary of what you claim, Christopher, admins at NAFPS do not delete posts made by supporters of plastics, let alone 'instantly'. This is an unfounded allegation, and one you cannot prove.
You also don't need to worry about our standing, professional or not. If there is any rebuttal you want to publish here at NAFPS, please submit it. But of course once it is published, all of us may feel free to criticise it and perhaps this is what you don't like. Errrm, then again you said 'no ability', not: no possibility.
However, from the above quote it becomes apparent that you also don't know what peer review means. Someone who claims an academic education should know.

So you say your parents 'have done nothing wrong'. I think I asked about that little slap way back in 2004 before, for posing as a psychologist. Meanwhile, we have learned that Spezzano Sr also claims to have been 'initiated' (Nuage speak once more) as a 'kahuna', so he has been exploiting indigenous cultures before he hit British Columbia. Cultural exploitation is wrong. 'Nothing' seems an inappropriate word, doesn't it.


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They've been doing their best to provide healing to the planet, and they've completely changed the lives of tens of thousands of people. They've saved countless individuals, marriages, and families. They help people reach forgiveness and reconnect with loved ones. There is no brainwashing. There is no funny money.

Oops, aren't we getting a bit big-headed here, Christopher? Healing the planet? Perhaps you should rethink this phrase – healing the universe sounds much nicer and way more, yes: universal. 'Healing the planet' is also best Nuage speak and reveals what PoV is and intends to be.
Again, Christopher, you just speak about 'countless individuals, marriages, and families' without offering any proof for even as much as one. So where's the peer review for PoV?

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I was also told that while you may have used AA to quit drinking, that you've had a notorious cocaine problem and that you've also been harassing others in your community, sometimes sexually with kissy noises and worse

Is there any rule or even law saying that a person who used to abuse substances is not allowed to voice criticism? No, of course there isn't. You also will be very much aware that this reference to earlier problems is way besides the point. It is only employed to shame Mr Greene in the hopes of making him shut up. This is called bullying and intimidation. If there is no other ways in which you can support your parents, I'd recommend you abstain from trying – with friends like you, they don't need enemies.

The same goes for Christpoher taking exception at some alleged „kissy noises“ Mr Greene may or (more probably) may not have made. But really, Christopher – are you that easy to shock? I mean, your father publishes books with sentences like:

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I love sex as much as the next man. Okay, maybe even more than the next man, because I'm Italian.
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If you ever don't know what Chuck is talking about, just assume it has a sexual reference. […] He can't help it; he's Italian.
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I look at the world with three eyes. A guy's view of the world is limited. […] He doesn't realize that looking at the world through his „periscope“ does not give him the „whole“ perspective.  And as we all know: „Women are from Venus. Men are from Penis.“
(Quotes from: Chuck Spezzano, What Men Don't Know about Sex, 2001. 78 pages)

So the man's father uses cheap excuses for talking dirty as much as he can and Christopher here pretends to swoon and faint at some 'kissy noises'? ? ? Pull another one – this one had bells on it.

Apart from that, it is of course not true that Chuck S. is Italian: he is of Italian ancestry. But using one's ancestry and their nationality, alleged or factual, as an excuse for a little private (or not so private, since he's writing books about it) obsession with sex – well, that's a lame one. It may come as a surprise to the Spezzanos, but there is no Italian gene for dirty talk or salaciousness.

I'd like to second Piff's above invitation: join this board and we can discuss the issue with you. Just refrain from any bawdy talk, four letter words, and childish behaviour.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 06, 2014, 01:12:25 am
Charles Lee Spezzano was licensed as a Marriage and Family Therapist 08/15/1980 - 05/31/1990. California license, address of record in Hawaii. But in the 1996 edition of Marquis Who's Who of the West, his bio leads with "Spezzano, Charles Lee, psychologist ".

Maybe Chuck was licensed elsewhere at that time, and we just can't find record of it. He was eventually in legal trouble in 2004.

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In fact, Charles Spezzano was fined in 2004 for acting like a psychologist while not being licensed by the state of Hawaii.

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)

Here is a good read about some of the Who’s Who scams (hat tip to Ingeborg for locating this) http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/1999/0308/063.html  (http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/1999/0308/063.html). The books may appear prestigious, but people write their own bios, and the info is not always fact checked.

So reading this bio, we need to keep in mind that Chuck wrote it.

It costs $7.95 to see the full bio online, a partial snippet view can be found through Google Books.

WorldCat has these notes included for their catalog entry on the bio:

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Occupation: seminar leader, lecturer, trainer, writer
Born: 1948
Education: BA in Psychology and Philosophy, Duquesne University, 1970
Education: MA in Sociology, Duquesne University, 1971
Education: PhD in Counseling and Psychology, U.S. International University, 1977
Career: Pres., lecturer, seminar leader, author, Spezzano & Associates, Ltd., Kaneohe, Hawaii, 1990—
Career: Founder, seminar leader, Break-Through Seminars, Tokyo, 1985
Career: Private practice marriage, family and child counselor, 1980-92
Career: Interim minister, Windward Unity Church, Kailua, Hawaii, 1983-84
Career: Senior trainer, ARAS Training Corp., San Diego, 1979-80
Career: Psychologist, therapy supervisor, workshop coordinator, Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center, National Academy of Sciences Miramar, San Diego, 1973-79
Career: Director community relations, counselor, Bradshear Associate, Pittsburgh, 1971-72

I'd never come across this one before: Founder, seminar leader, Break-Through Seminars, Tokyo, 1985 - I suppose this could have been a couple of seminars he took out for a spin in Tokyo as he worked on fine tuning his act.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 09, 2014, 06:03:23 pm

The PoV site also provides a German version of the Trainers' Manual. The English version of the Manual is discussed in several articles over at 'Morty the Dog':
http://mortydog.blogspot.de/2014/02/psychology-of-vision-trainers-manual_8.html

German Trainers' Manual:
http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013-dt-Trainerhandbuch.pdf

There are a few interesting details in that Manual, e.g. regarding payment of licence fees. Apparently, every trainer is supposed to pay an annual 'licence fee' according to grade aquired:

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page 21
trainer grade 1: 5,000
trainer grade 2: 6,750
trainer grade 3: 7,500
trainer grade 4: 8,000

These were the amounts due in 2013.
The PoV site names 46 trainers altogether, with no detail given as to their resp grade. In the comment section of a YouTube video, Lency Spezzano claims there were 52 PoV trainers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTpkQ6R4oQ
However, details as to actual figures might get adjusted subject to circumstance: While presently the PoV site claims eight trainers in Canada, a twitter message from Babs Stevens, a Canadian PoV trainer, dd April 27, 2009 reads:
https://twitter.com/babsstevens/status/1636002244
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14 Canadian POV trainers co-facilitated a 2 1/2 day workshop 'The Spirit of Partnership' awesome healing happened!! Go Canada Go!!!

So assuming trainers will be paying grade II fees on average, a total of 52 trainers will pay an annual sum of $ 351,000.

However, payment details given for trainers in 'Mainland Europe' are also quite interesting:

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page 24/25
"Payment of annual licences must be made in US Dollar per bank transfer to:
International Association of Psychology of Vision
Vom Staalweg 3, 4500 Solothurn, Switzerland
Bank address: Credit Suisse (CS)
P.O.Box 3xx, 4502 Solothurn, Schweiz
Account no: 150 2491xxx
Swift Code: CRESCHxxxxx
IBAN: CH87 0483 5150 xxxxx
Bank clearing: 48xxxxx
All cost for transfering amounts have to be covered by payer.
Further inquiries to be made with Susanne Ernst: su.ernst@xxx "

Oh, a Swiss bank account? To which all 'Mainland Europe' trainers are supposed to transfer their annual licence fee.

As of yet, 'Mainland Europe' consists of the three countries of Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. Since it is apparent that there are a few more countries to be subsumed as 'mainland Europe', this offers some future perspectives.

However, there is NO company or association by the name of „International Association of Psychology of Vision“. Google the name, and the only two results Google comes up with are from the PoV Trainers' Manual, English and German versions. It is nowhere registered as a company or an association, and it doesn't even get mentioned outside the Manuals.
This means European trainers are expected to pay their annual fees to a Swiss account owned by whomever and to which whoever might have access to. Isn't this quite convenient an arrangement? For whoever, that is.

The Manual also mentions a „PoV International Association“ or „PoVia“ - same again: this association is nowhere registered, and Google can only find two results for it: the PoV Trainers' Manual.

Since the English manual seems to date back from 2010 (specifying the fees due for 2011), while the German version dates from 2012 (fees due for 2013), this seems more than an accidential oversight.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 09, 2014, 11:49:57 pm

Some more info re this „International Association“ which allegedly owns the bank account.

Googling the above mentioned address does provide results:
The address in the town of Solothurn belongs to a company by the name of:
PoV-DACH GmbH which was founded in 2012 and is a successor of a liquidated company named Psychology of Vision DACH.

DACH simply stands for the three countries Germany (Deutschland), Austria, and CH is for Switzerland.
'GmbH' is more or less the same as a limited liabilty company.

This is the info provided by Swiss authorities on PoV-DACH GmbH:

http://www.moneyhouse.ch/domizil/Solothurn/Vom_Staal-Weg_3.htm

The official info names Susanne Ernst as a recipient of correspondence.
Three names are connected to the PoV DACH: Susanne Ernst, Mathias Keller, Josef Neuschmid.
While Ernst and Keller are mentioned on the site with a trainer's bio, Neuschmid doesn't show up anywhere on PoV sites as a trainer, but is mentioned in several advertisements of lectures and seminars done by PoV or Chuck Spezzano in person.

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PoV-DACH GmbH, in Solothurn, CH-241.4.011.204-3, Vom Staal-Weg 3, 4500 Solothurn, Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (Neueintragung). [company with limited liability (newly founded)
Statutendatum: [date of statute] 31.07.2012.

Purpose: Organisation and conducting of lectures and events in the field of awareness raising, personality development and communication as well as trading goods of all sorts, and realising of further services connected to the main purpose. May adapt related branches of business, hold interest in other enterprises at home or abroad resp resume or found enterprises, establish branches at home and abroad and furthermore engage in all commercial, financial, and other activities which will further the enterprise's purpose as well as purchase, hold, and sell real estate and properties at home and abroad
Capital fund: CHF 21,000.00.
Persons registered: Ernst, Susanne of Basel, Solothurn, associate and head of management board, single signing authority, 70 parts per stirpes at CHF 100.00 each
Keller, Mathias of Oberbueren, Worb, associate and manager, single signing authority, 70 parts
Neuschmid, Josef, Austrian national, Zurich, associate and manager, single signing authority. 70 parts per stirpes.

Please take due note that there is no mention of any therapies in general or psychotherapy in particular. Neither does counseling get mentioned, or healing.
However, the company's statutes give it the freedom to engage in a multitude of economic activities, like trading goods of all sorts, selling and buying real estate in all countries, it may aquire other companies both at home and abroad – in one word „engage in all commercial, financial, and other activities which will further the enterprise's purpose“. This is carte blanche for PoV-DACH GmbH to do whatever they like – or rather: whatever secures a profit.

And also please take due note that the GmbH was founded in 2012 to replace a former association or company named „Psychology of Vision DACH“ which had been founded in 2003.

On the other hand, despite having been liquidated in 2012, PoV-DACH still seems to have an active Facebook site with entries from Feb 2014:
https://de-de.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-of-Vision-DACH/129397559608

This is info on the liquidated PoV-DACH:
http://www.moneyhouse.ch/u/psychology_of_vision_dach_CH-241.6.003.671-7.htm

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Date of registration: 09.12.2003
Purpose:
The Association's purpose is to further personality development, health, and spirituality. This may be achieved, amongst others, by offering courses, seminars, lectures or other events, through public relations as well as by other suitable activities.

Comparing the two statements re their purpose, the GmbH has a far broader range of activities.
However, the fields of 'health' and 'spirituality', mentioned with the association, have been omitted in the LLC statement of purpose.

Title: Re: PoV First Nations Fund
Post by: Ingeborg on February 10, 2014, 04:41:45 pm

The PoV site publishes a Trainers Manual both in English and in German language. At first sight, these seem to be identical, until one realises that the German version is considerably longer than the English one. Comparing the respective tables of content, it becomes apparent that the German version contains an entire section which is not to be found in the English one: Section K.

Section K deals with the so-called First Nations Fund. So it appears somewhat odd that this part of the Manual is not included in the English version. Further reading suggests a few reasons as to why section K does not get published in English language:

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K. International Guidelines of Price Reductions for PoV trainers, staff, participants, and partnership with the First Nations (FN)

1) Definition and Principles of the international funds and reductions within PoV
PoV means to set an example of sustainable support. Therefore, our approach is that of an empowering system for individuals or groups who are in need of temporary assistance. The following principles are the result of first experience with financing participants and trainers. The goal is future success.

Principles:

No rebates and no special cases which would result in the loss of equality.

All 100-Day Graduates (including trainers and participants of the Master Programme) receive a reduction of 50% on PoV events. Exception: Promoters who are not able to give such a rebate.

Promoters have the option to grant free access to workshops in exchange with equivalent jobs.

Trainers who feel inspired to support a certain issue are free to do so according to their own means. These issues will not be supported by the PoV Trainers' Programme – neither financially nor in the way of a reduced trainer's licence fee.

Among the funds which have emerged from inspirations by various trainers are presently: Bangladesh, Africa, India, and Buddhist monks and nuns.
This sort of funds have developed from trainers' own initiative, their commitment, and with the support of various trainers and are therefore no issues supported/promoted by PoV.

2 PoV FN Partnership and Pov FN Fund definition

There is a programme supported by PoV – the First Nation Fund. This programme developed from a vision which still unfolds. Through the actions of First Nations, many relationships between PoV and FN participants and trainers have developed over the years, and there were many investments. The PoV Trainers Programme will also in future financially support FN seminar participants and trainers. Subsequently, the details of the FN Fund will be given in detail:

p 45

3 The First Nation Fund
Of the existing First Nation Fund, 50% go to FN trainers working with First Nations in remote reservations and communities and to FN trainers whose participation in Trainers' Conferences is supported.
The other 50% of the First Nation Fund are used to support FN seminar participants in the 100-Day Programme as well as seminar participants who aim at becoming trainers themselves.

Reduction of Seminar Fees

Promotors who do not organise specific FN events are free to grant rebates of up to 50% to FN participants.

FN seminar participants have to apply for the scholarship with the Promoter and are obliged to send a copy of their application to Susan How (susan @ povcanada com). Contents of the application is the reason why a reduction is applied for, and an explanation in which way an FN scholarship may contribute to the wellbeing of the planet (e.g. when the seminar participant intends to apply POV contents within family or community resp pass them on to tribal elders or supervisors in the tribe).

As a gesture of „gratitude“ to have obtained a scholarshop, the applicant is obliged to send their seminar results in the form of a letter to Susan How and to the Promoter of the event subsequently to the seminar.

Financial Support

Will be granted for events contributing to graduation from the 100-Day-Programme or meet Trainer expectations.

Presently financial support is only given for longer trainings (at least 5 days) with Master Trainers, if the Fund is able to support the event.

It is possible to have travel expenses of FN participants to an FN workshop supported financially.


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FN participants must apply for additional financial support for travel expenses, accomodation or other expenses for the training chosen by them. Contents of the application is the reason why a reduction is applied for, an explanation in which way a scholarship could contribute to the wellbeing of the planet (e.g. {b]seminar participants intend to apply PoV contents within family or community resp pass on to tribal elders or superiors in the tribe[/b]).

As a gesture of „gratitude“, applicant is obliged to communicate their seminar results in form of a letter subsequent to the seminar.

Applications for financial support must be sent to Susan How:
susan @ povcanada dot com

Donations which intend to support one or several FN participants with the payment of their seminar fees are welcome.

The FN Fund manager receives $ 100 USD [sic] per month. Presently, Susan How is the manager of the FN Fund.


4 PoV FN Trainer work (workshops on the basis of donation) in FN communities

The FN community must write a letter to FN Fund manager Susan How (susan @ povcanada dot com) in order to initiate the support by an FN trainer in their community via contractual agreement. The agreement must contain all issues regarding the aspect of workshop costs.

Splitting of costs: one part (50%) of the costs will be covered by the event organiser, the other part (50%) will be supported by the FN Fund.

All materials (brochures, flyer, or other promotional material) must be marked as a PoV cooperation between an FN community or FN organisation and the PoV FN Fund.

Should an FN fee occur, it must be identified that this fee will only cover workshop costs. The fee must correspond with local market value.

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A probable profit will be shared 50/50 between the PoV Fund and the FN community. The profit share of the FN community must be spent on future PoV events or on the establishment of PoV.

Subsequently to the event, the community is obliged to write a letter containing a short financial report on the cost and number of participants of the event. In this way, balance and transparency of relations are meant to be observed.

Workshop costs (including costs for staff):

Travel expense or petrol, or both in case of confirmation
Accomodation
Catering for employees (lunch may optionally be served for participants if catering is not available otherwise; costs for lunch can be added to the seminar fee).
Taxi to and from airport.
Accomodation in town if the trainer cannot travel directly from flight to FN community.
Rent of stereo equipment.
Fee for DJ of $ 150 USD [sic] per workshop.
Child care for the children of course instructor if necessary.
FN workshops on donation basis with PoV Master Trainers or Chuck and Lency

Other participants may participate in FN workshops on donation basis and pay a fee corresponding with event fees outside of FN communities. Fees of such participants will be used as means of payment for the costs of the workshop. The number of such participants is limited to 25% of the total number of participants in the event.


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5 Prerequisites for FN Trainers and Exchange of Trainer's Licence

Payment of the same licence fees as all other trainers.

It is possible to pay the licence fee, in part or in total, through work with FN participants:

Balance of $ 350 USD [sic] per seminar day held in FN groups with at least 4 participants.
$ 175 USD for every half workshop day of four hours (in the morning, in the afternoon, or in the evening) with at least 4 participants.

$ 40 USD for every Coaching Session with FN clients (one session is one hour of interactive work on a specific issue). Further $ 40 USD will be paid by client.

$ 50 USD for every counceling with an FN trainer applicant (cf Prerequisites of FN applications).

Status control of FN trainers' licence will be done by means of quarterly reports of FN trainers and will be retraced by the FN trainers' year coach.

The FN trainers' coach will report to PoV Trainer Programme Manager (Francine Girard).

Note: If FN trainers receive payment for their event with FN participants, the FN trainer will receive no exchange on his/her trainer's licence, and the FN community is not entitled to finanical support from the First Nation Fund.

Should the balance of exchange with the trainer's licence of an FN trainer exceed the cost of the trainer's licence, it will not be possible to transfer the rest of the balance into the following calender year. The trainer, however, is free to transfer the balance to the trainer's licence of another FN trainer.

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6) Prerequisites for application as an FN trainer

All persons interested in the PoV Trainers' Programme must take part in the Master Programme one year prior to their application. FN members will receive a 50% rebate on the fees of the Master Programme.

During their first trainer's year, FN Trainers will pay half (50%) of the current trainer licence of a T1 Trainer.

During the year of application as a PoV Trainer, the FN applicant will receive monthly counceling by a current FN Trainer (the FN Trainer Councillor will receive a credit of one counceling worth $ 50 USD per month in exchange of their own licence fee).

During the year of application as a PoV Trainer, the applicant is obliged to support FN Trainers in their workshops. Their costs will be taken care of (First Nations Fund) and their assistance will be credited with $ 100 USD per workshop-day on their first Trainers' Licence fee.

Emphasis mine


First of all it is to be noted that section K does not mention how the fund is funded. Where does the money come from? Are PoV'ers expected to make regular contributions? This is probably the or one way the fund receives monies, as a video put up at YouTube suggests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPG8Gzc-jI

However, there is no information provided regarding the funding, or how contributors to the fund will receive information on how the fund will spend monies received. The info provided by section K suggests that the actual use of monies is decided upon by the so-called Fund Manager which is PoV trainer Susan How. Apparently, there is no other body controling the Fund Manager. Within the hierarchic system of PoV, How probably receives directions and answers to persons higher up in the system, and this will be the so-called Steering Committee comprised of Chuck and Lency Spezzano and the present four Master Trainers.
 
It is not transparent from section K who else may be responsible for the accounting of the FN Fund, so no information is available to contributors as to the amonts received by the fund, either. As far as contributors are concerned, the fund may as well be a giant black hole. I wouldn't say the fund was nothing but a black hole, but as transparency is neither intended nor offered, it is easy to see how the fund may become one. The only instance in which section K does demand transparency concerns the use of funds by FN communities towards the FN Fund. In other words: while the Fund expects transparency by recipients of monies, it is not willing to grant transparency regarding its own handling of monies.

Title: Re: PoV First Nations Fund and the systematic targeting of First Nations
Post by: Ingeborg on February 10, 2014, 04:54:01 pm

Additionally, the way funding of events and trainers is described in the above section K, we may speak of the fund enabling and encouraging a systematic targeting of ndn nations and ndn communities, which is what happened and still happens in British Columbia. Our friends at Psiram have found ads, reports etc for PoV events in several nations throughout British Columbia.

Of course this system of targeting does not get lined out in so many words in the manual, however, there are various incentives to organise FN events presented in section K:

As far as I understand the manual, benefits under the FN Fund do not only apply to trainers who are FN themselves, but also to white trainers doing events and counseling in FN communities for an FN clientele. Trainers will have their expenses largely refunded and can even work off their trainer's licence fees in part or in total by events etc organised in an FN setting. This is quite an incentive - and one which works to the inclusion, or rather: targeting of more and more FN nations and FN communities. In particular since comparable regulations do not apply when trainers organise events for a non-NF clientele.

A second aspect targets FN trainers and trainer applicants, and through them, FN nations. In order to receive funding, they have to explain how their becoming a trainer may contribute to the 'wellbeing of the planet'. One may argue that this reflects a certain conceitedness on behalf of PoV, but it certainly puts pressure on trainers and trainer applicants since their work is expected to have effects on the entire planet, not just one ndn nation. Some possibilities are being introduced to trainers and applicants, like e.g. they must commit themselves to applying PoV within their families. They may also commit themselves to passing on PoV methods to their tribal elders (this is sheer colonisation!) and to their supervisors within tribal structures. From the word chosen in the German version, it is quite clear that applicants will promise to 'mission' their bosses within tribal managements and draw them into the PoV system and apply PoV methods and take PoV seminars and courses, too.

Given the structures and control instruments lined out in section K, these assertions will be more than a convenient lip service to receive funding, but their realisation will be supervised by PoV, e.g. with trainers having to hand in quarterly reports. So before being accepted into the trainers' programme, applicants will assert in writing that they will start their own snowball system of luring in more and more persons from their social and professional environments. Not only family members, but tribal elders and tribal representatives and managers, i.e. targeting both the traditional structures and the 'modern', present-day management of nations and communities.

This means the attack is not (only) from bottom up, but rather the other way round: from top to bottom. Get elders, managers, traditional representatives in your pocket who then will change tribal structures from above and make tribal members discard their traditional ways in favour of PoV. At the same time, FN participants not part of tribal managements or not of elder status will be worked at during seminars, 'joinings', 'counseling' sessions etc to drop tribal traditions in favour of PoV methods.

Communities and nations who accept PoV in their region thus invite termination and cultural ethnocide – and what's worse, the system will make them realise much of this themselves. As PoV members (and particularly as profiteers receiving benefits from PoV funding), they will have to discard whatever PoV tells them to get rid of in the way of their traditional way of life, world view, customs, etc., probably up to their identity as FN. All this, however, is done under the disguise of being particularly 'FN friendly' - although this happens to be the same old, same old: as a strategy, this has been applied for several hundreds of years, and during the last say 150 years with an emphasis. Or, as the founder of Carlisle Indian School (the first residential school for ndn children in the USA) used to put it: 'Kill the Indian and keep the man'. In plain words, PoV uses the racist approach of white persons knowing best what is good for the Natives.

Once again, First Nations are denied to make their own decisions and to develop on terms chosen by themselves, but are expected to accept whatever gets handed out to them and be grateful for it. And this gratitude is even demanded and controled by PoV as persons receiving monies from the fund are 'obliged' to write letters to express this 'gratitude'. In most cultures on this planet, *expecting* gratitude is viewed as a no-go, and this includes FN cultures. So instead of being particularly FN-friendly and reflecting a vast similarity to FN cultures, as PoV claims, it in fact violates essential values of these cultures.

The eventual result for FN PoV members and trainers will be deculturation, in favour of an acculturation into a cult and snowball scam. Which means the trophy to be won is even less than with governmentally introduced strategies: not acculturation into the dominant culture, but into the fringe culture of a cult aiming at keeping a tight grip on their victims in order to keep profits rolling in for the cult's top few.

As a good part of PoV activities in native communities seems to be events and seminars for children and teenagers, they furthermore ascertain that part of the young generation is introduced to a set of rules and values not in compliance with tribal traditions and ways of life, while at the same time also making them more or less unable to adjust to the dominant culture. One way in which this is ensured by cults e.g. is the redefinition of terms and words who are given a different, cult-specific meaning. Terms like 'downloading' or 'joining' come into mind here, but are only two examples of such a redefined vocabulary. In the long run, this means communication with and relations to the world outside of the cult are becoming difficult for cult members, and thus get minimized.

Within First Nations, this targeting eventually will contribute to the creation of a two-class society of those who belong to the cult, and those who don't. As tribal managements are included in the assault, further pressure on FN members to take PoV seminars and counselings is easy to imagine and even encouraged by this system.

It is therefore quite apparent why section K only gets published in the German version of the Trainers' Manual: If I was PoV, I'd hate to publish section K in a language understood in Canada.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 18, 2014, 12:13:37 pm
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"Chuck Spezzano is available for private coaching sessions while he is in the UK in April and July 2014. His fee is £675 per hourly session."

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

This converts to $1243.14 Canadian, or $1120.77 USA
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 20, 2014, 04:54:37 am
Are the events in this chronology connected?

Early November 2013: The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network (APTN) aired a program called "Plastic Healers" which included a portrayal of Psychology of Vision and Chuck and Lency Spezzano as unprofessional participants of ethnocide on Haida Gwaii. In the broadcast even a devotee of a rival New Age healer denounced POV as having no follow-up or sense of caring for the damage they created.

The host of the program said of Psychology of Vision: "Despite the name, neither of the two who run it are psychologists."

Rob Smith, the journalist who covered this story added:  "The Spezzanos have a troubled past. In 2004 the State of Hawaii rapped Chuck Spezzano's knuckles for working as a psychologist without a state license. This was for his part in a controversial child custody case. Spezzano swore in an affidavit the father was unfit. The problem is he's never been licensed to practice psychology in Hawaii. And still isn't."

This is reinforced by a telephone comment from Chuck Spezzano aired on the program. When asked by Smith if he considered himself a psychologist, Chuck Spezzano replied, "No, Robert, I don't. I consider myself a coach."

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)

Nov. 29, 2013: Lency Spezzano announced on Facebook that 2014 will be her final year of making visits to non-US countries in retail marketing the POV capitalist enterprise. 

Later, Lency's "semi-retirement" announcement was made official on the POV events page.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events.htm)

Is there any evidence of Lency announcing her pulling back from foreign travel prior to the APTN Investigates expose?





Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on March 20, 2014, 04:57:04 pm
i have seen these spezzano's lie before, in fact they're masters of denial. they turn any problem into the vivtims fault,or they wished it on themselves to be sick, or was a rapist in a past life is why you've been sexually abused. i've seen their advertisement for a "workshop" in vancouver bc, it was advertised as the ONLY CHUCK SPEZZANO EVENT IN CANADA,so sign up now , it's your only chance to see chuck, well you know what chuck spezzano returned to vancouver if there's money for chuck to be made, i'm sure chuck will show up.same goes for lency spezzano
as far as lency spezzano goes, her retiring could be another big lie and stradegedy to keep their numbers and money flowing in to her catch stage hypnotist act workshops, i don't believe a word about her retiring,
the true healing field will be a better off place with any cult person getting out of their business, i surely do welcome lencys retirement and hope it's true.
 P.S. i was told that stage hypnotism was banned as a healing method in canada , perhaps this would bring an early retirement, I SURE HOPE SO.
anyway I'LL believe it when i see any one of these spezzano's retire, one of their slogans is STEP UP TO HAVE IT ALL... and from what i see about them is that they really are driven to have it all , with nor consideration of others feelings or well being to get what they want MONEY
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 22, 2014, 02:39:48 am
Speaking of hypnosis, watching any of Lency Spezzano's "Joining" YouTube videos will give you no shortage of demonstrations of the Hypnotic Gaze Technique. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos?flow=grid&view=0 (http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos?flow=grid&view=0)

There are a number of these presentations where she points to her eye and instructs the subject to focus there. In nearly all them the client undergoes a process of tremors while Lency displays a vast array of mime expressions as she "channels." Meanwhile what she calls "Bliss Music" is played. Here is a link to a pretty blatant example. Notice how she uses her hands at 1:40. It happens so fast that most people would miss it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

In the next example, the subject's tremors are so bad that Lency has to use some considerable effort to bring the client back down. Start at 12:58:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY)

This is all exhibited with the premise of "downloading" some sort of vaguely defined force or energy as a "gift." But given the fact the Spezzanos are in the business of retail spirituality and charge their customers such an exorbitant amount of money I should think calling this a "gift" is a misnomer. The subjects in these presentations appear to be Psychology of Vision trainers, including the next example featuring Babs Stevens. She appears dazed and then delirious in the final shots, starting at 9:47 when Lency gives her stage directions. POV trainer Melissa Meyer joins the scene and at 13:03 Lency calls her "my daughter," placing herself in the role of surrogate parent, reinforcing the concept of the Spezzanos as being at the peak of the hierarchy of this corporation with several levels of management. Parts of this YouTube were used in the APTN investigative news program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

Although Lency appears to have deleted most of the negative comments on the YouTubes and left her responses, one comment by Brian Lynchehaun attached six months ago to the above example survived, "It's truly unfortunate that the Spezzano's continue to perpetuate these scams."



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on March 22, 2014, 06:51:35 am
With special mimik- and breathing technics you can fetch different emotions, this you can learn in a drama school ("founder" Dr. Susana Bloch / Alba emoting).

In my opinion it is a cruel game with transference and countertransference, where Spezzanos exceed the safeguarding border of the guest again and again. In this way you can stalemate someone and force reactions and emotions coming up to the surface the guest normally got under control. The guest is under enormous stress, he / her cry or become angry, etc., maybe the emotion Spenozza mirroring (she knows what the guest want) and / or this emotion the guest cannot control anymore. I think by their laughing - reaction the guest try to get back its controll about his / her emotion and its reaction. But Spenozza don´t let him / her.
This behavior is abusive, even if the guest preconcerted this "session". Normally the guest should declare a sign when it is enough for him / her so Spenozza goes out of this situation.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 22, 2014, 04:58:02 pm
Thank you, that is very interesting. The drama school factor, i.e., putting on stage shows is an important element in Psychology of Vision indoctrination. Except, as you say, the main point is not to entertain but to dominate, manipulate, and extract enormous sums of money.

Lency has a brother and daughter in the acting profession. Lency refers to herself as being in "show business" around the 1:30 mark in this "Joining" YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)

Would "Stage Show Hypnosis," combining dramatic and hypnotic techniques, be an accurate description of what we are seeing here?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on March 22, 2014, 07:11:56 pm
"Surrender your mind and replace it through something else, in this case here the thoughts wich imply the wishes of this young man (or another person) by hypnotic techniques"
In medical or psychological way it is not an aim or part of a hypnotic - therapie to replace something. I just know hypnotic therapie using in medicine and psychotherapie, but not enough. But for me it is clear, this Spezzano - hypnotic got nothing to do with the medical or psychological way.

Maybe Spezzano claims to call it hypnotic because she try to look firmly in someone´s eyes, and replacing something .... ???????????
I don´t know if there are existing different kinds of hypnotic therpies,... maybe, but I don´t believe it. Even I don´t know, what kind of hypnotic techniques esoteric people are "developing"... phantasie don´t know bounds.

I think Sp. hypnotic is not a stage drama, what she is doing is demonstrating power, a cruel behavoir, it pressurize, for me she got no empathy for the other people.

This could be dangerous for instabil persons. Example: Some persons live with a second emotion, they needed it to control their first emotion, which are existing through former lifeevents. If they lose their control about their second emotion, the first emotion can come up into the surface. Maybe this person will be overrun by this first emotion and cannot treat or manage this events which are coming up anymore. Second emotion could be "anger", the first "fear", just examples. 

Could this be called "manipulate"?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 22, 2014, 07:33:42 pm
Yes. I think we're arriving at the same conclusion but just through different semantics and interpretation of what we are seeing. But in either case it boils down to  what Lency is doing is potentially very destructive. The subject in this YouTube is a good example of what you have been pointing out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY)

Addendum: Lency claims what she is performing is not hypnosis. In her Ripoff Report rebuttal she claims: "Do we use hypnosis? No. Do we use violence and manipulation? No."

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on March 23, 2014, 07:22:22 am
The answer they wrote in Ripoff Report tells it´s own story. Terrible.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on March 23, 2014, 05:11:02 pm
this letter is a hypnotherapists answer to a question asking if Lency Spezzano used stage hypnotism.remember that the "participants"in these youtubes are "advanced trainers and have been hypnotized many, many times by the spezzanos and they  expect  it, that's why they go into their trance state so fast and easy, they expect it and want it to happen to them !! i also bet the participants would even go into competition to see who goes into trance the fastest to show how devote and how quick they"get it"
also one of the reasons stage hypnotism is banned as a healing model in canada is because in large group stage hypnotism, there is no screening of each individual, so they do not know what will be "uncovered" and they do not have proper trained help for them when something really traumatizing is revealed, the hypnotist (Lency in these videos) does more damages to the victim and creates an extremely dangerous situation for them to be in.
already the spezzanos broke confidentiality and are unethical by filming and posting the videos of their victims on the internet , yet the victims adamantly blame others and bully those that question this group or speak up to voice valid concerns, they do not want to hear or listen because they're indoctrinated thet they have all the answers and how dare us that "don't have it"talk like that to them.
the truth of the matter is...
THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OF US HERE,
 and many of us that are here still have objective critical thinking that we're all keeping, no fake psychologist or stage hypnotist is taking that away either.

   this hypnotherapist was asked if lency spezzano used stage hypnotism in her "healing act"...
 when the stage is already set and by the victims showing up wanting this and expecting this to happen to them, the answer can only be yes. it's all a staged act, getting the victims to believe they've been healed,
here is a very revealing example of lencys staged "healing act",

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY

there are advanced trainers/recruiters for PoV that actually think this is cutting edge healing, i think they call it the "astral vibrational energies from the universe" coming into your brain and then to your heart,all via this downloading  methods and techniques  used by lency or an advanced trainer like in this video posted on the internet, some also think this can be used in real healing centers for chucks victims to show up from around the world to get brainwashed under the guise of healing. i bet a lot of chinese are going to be the new "willing" victims, i bet B.C's first nations are used up now with the public ed campaign about PoV and their trainers

here is letter from hypnotherapist counselor answering if she thought lency spezzano used stage hypnotism.
 
- Hi xxxxx The stage is set," Look into my right eye" is a simple hypnotic induction technique, this can only be successful if a person is a 'good' hypnosis subject, not everyone will allow themselves to go into hypnosis.  This technique would not work for most but if a person "believes" this will work, it will!
 
All hypnosis is self hypnosis,  Almost anyone can be hypnotized if they are willing.  You can begin the indoctrination process by setting the 'stage' which the leader and trainers of psychology of vision seems to be very good at. 
 
I have worked with members of Cults for a number of years, they are all similar in that they set the 'stage'.  As a  Counseling hypnotherapist I can use this title to insure that when I am brought into a school setting for  to talk about how powerful  the mind is and how it can work to enhance your life simply by changing your thoughts, the young people 'believe' they can be hypnotized, I don't have to do anything, I just show up, there is already an expectation that they will be hypnotized . I want everyone reading this post to understand that all hypnosis is self hypnosis, you cannot force anyone to do anything they do not want or believe they can do.
 
So getting back to the video, this man already believes he can change his mind, Lenzie did not 'do' this to him, he did it himself, he believes it can be done...so it will be done!
 
Having said this, when cults get into your belief system and people belive that the cult masters/leaders are the only people who can help them...now we have a problem, the members of the cult organization give up thinking for themselves. They have stopped believing in themselves, they now look outside of themselves for answers never realizing the truth..that lies within each one of us all.
 
Tribal man used to rely on memory and instict to find food, he knew which berries were safe to eat, which water was safe to drink, then the tribes formed and decisions were left to the Elders of the tribe.  The came Tribal Doctors..we began to rely on others.  And so it goes today, we rely on others to tell us what is right or wrong.
 
There is no way you can prevent cults from forming and cult leaders to stop taking advantage of people. The world needs to wake up. This is a huge subject but simple to understand.  People who have emotional pain chose to run away from it, some will join groups so they can talk about their pain and learn new ways to move forward.  Others will drink/drug hoping to outrun the emotional pain, some choose religion.
 
The mind is a powerful tool for change but the change must begin within us, we need to stop blaming ourselves for being who we are.  why not us the mind to heal us. instead of relying on others, why not get to know ourselves, most people live theri whole lives nevr know who they are, never seeing the prefection of themslves, we all come into the owrl as perfect beings, we are ll different in many ways but we all have beauty, wisdom and we are all loved.  We have to see the beauty of ourselves, when we change our thoughts about ourselves everything would change.

these spezzanos are still proving to be incredible shitty liars, they have stated they do not use hypnotism but.. the youtubes show they do,

I remember reading somewhere that you can't polish shit, you can try and try to polish shit but it does not work, its still shit , that saying described what the spezzanos along with their 100 plus day "grads" and especially their "advanced trainers" are doing - polishing shit and selling it to the unsuspecting public.

this is why sites such as NAFPS are so important for people to read when they want to better their lives, they can read about a bad harmful fraud group or "shaman and learn to stay away and learn to make a better choice for them selves in bettering their lives
 there are a lot of people out there trying to sell you polished shit. no matter how polished it is.. it is still SHIT
 i am very grateful for everyone at NAFPS they help people to learn the difference
thank you all so very much for helping and going above and beyond everyone else that help to  research groups, whether finding out if they're good groups but especially when they're harmful, i know a lot of people have been saved from falling into a false healing trap by the wonderful researchers at nafps
thank you all very much again and again
 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 24, 2014, 12:39:51 pm
As an experiment I typed in the query "Lency Spezzano" and "right eye" in Google. Taking into account Google has highly personalized searching parameters, on my machine the search engine found this intriguing undated result in http://waatpp.it/people/said-spezzano/ (http://waatpp.it/people/said-spezzano/)

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Lency Spezzano: Webinar Progress
Lotta Gaber said... Thank you Lency and I am looking forward to our 4th session on monday. In the meantime, I always can see in my mind your "right eye" and that is a great support through the day. It is a great reminder..:-) ...

The source is given as http://lencyspezzano.blogspot.com/ (http://lencyspezzano.blogspot.com/) but you can't get there from here.

In addition, under this query the Google Images mode gave me several stills of Lency pointing at her right eye.

The search also led me in a domino way to this quote about Lency from Lynne Franks, which appeared in her book Absolutely Now! in 1998. Franks is considered the inspiration for the New Age fad-following character Edina Monsoon in the BBC series Absolutely Fabulous:

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During her sessions she put on rather corny mood music and would go round the room looking deeply into our eyes. When it was my turn I felt as if she could see straight into my soul. I knew she could feel my pain, and through focusing her energy on me I was able to let out suppressed emotions and tears. I recognised the build-up of sadness I'd been holding inside me since childhood and I was gradually able to release it. At last I was in a safe place where I knew I could let go of my pain and I found myself crying uncontrollably. There are very few people who don't give way under Lency's stare.

Then I was led to this other quote from someone in the APTN Investigates piece about the aftermath of the Spezzano visit to Haida Gwaii. It seems she belongs to a rival cult, but that does not diminish the point she makes here:

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In my own experience it felt irresponsible because there was no aftercare. Like I felt like things were like ... blown open like this emotionally ... Whatever was brought up in that workshop wasn't dealt with in the capacity of kind of closing the container and making sure people are safe after they left, and there was some really unsafe situations that arose from ... attempted suicides, yeah.
 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on March 24, 2014, 04:32:57 pm
"remember that the "participants"in these youtubes are "advanced trainers and have been hypnotized many, many times by the spezzanos and they  expect  it, that's why they go into their trance state so fast and easy, they expect it and want it to happen to them !"

Possible that is hypnotic? Well, than there are existing more different forms of hypnotic technics I imagine. I read later in a book by Jean Harro that are following subjects are classified under autohypnosis: Common Trance situation, such as spontaneous trance, meditation, intensive concentration, total inanttention, daydreaming, Highway - phenomenon. In autohypnosis there is a shift of attention from external stimuli towards your inner or outside. This is a dissociation of conciousness, in extreme situation it can develops flight or multiple personality disorder, today DID.

I have never seen this aspect under "hypnotic". I think that Spezzona´s work is transference and countertransference, this is in my opinion possible in a combination with hynotic techniques. First they introduce autohypnosis and than combine the work with transference and countertransference makes it easier. For me it is comprehensible, but I really don´t know how it works in practise.

Sandy quote: "... would go round the room looking deeply into our eyes. When it was my turn I felt as if she could see straight into my soul. I knew she could feel my pain, and through focusing her energy on me I was able to let out suppressed emotions and tears. I recognised the build-up of sadness I'd been holding inside me since childhood and I was gradually able to release it. At last I was in a safe place where I knew I could let go of my pain and I found myself crying uncontrollably. There are very few people who don't give way under Lency's stare.
In this case I ask myself how often "hypnotic" is used by esoteric people to flight away, ... how often you try to explain something and they do not listen .... how often do people are so far away from their inner that they cannot decide anymore, what they want and what not .... and people are susceptible, pushed aside in helplesness and fear. In the last point people cannot recognize this allways."

That is the technique I wrote about, the terrible thing is: Normally in therapy the therapist dissolve this at the end, sometimes during a therapiy. The therapists makes clear, what is going on in a reflection. The therapist can use this to find out in contact with the patient what is going on in the patients mind and feeling. They clarify.
It is not a good way to increase the mirroring untill the patient is totaly helpless. These patients in Spezzonas starring group are misinterpreting experiences, turn them into false backgrounds, so that it is easier to flight, they deliver the answers, questions and autonomic, self - responsibility to other people.

"there is no screening of each individual, so they do not know what will be "uncovered" and they do not have proper trained help for them when something really traumatizing is revealed, the hypnotist (Lency in these videos) does more damages to the victim and creates an extremely dangerous situation for them to be in."

At least they let this. They can damage a lot, and it is also sure that they cannot recognize the signs with reliability of the people, who are mentally harmed, even a psychologists with a lot experiences could not be sure absolutely. I even cannot imagine that Spezzona could recognize the signs when she would talk about the experiences during the starring technique.

"Having said this, when cults get into your belief system and people belive that the cult masters/leaders are the only people who can help them...now we have a problem, the members of the cult organization give up thinking for themselves. They have stopped believing in themselves, they now look outside of themselves for answers never realizing the truth..that lies within each one of us all."

Not everybody got a connection to his own inner and to do introspective, find out what emotions come up in which situation, which reactions follow, why it happend, what happened in their inner, what muster of behaviour are existing ... this way could harm themselves so hard that they decompensate. In this case it is important, this person looks for professional help, someone educated, who knows about the different signs of reactions, recognizes when it is too much, explain, ... . It is not obvious to some affected people for themselves what happened to them, they cannot reach themselves.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Defend the Sacred on March 24, 2014, 04:34:11 pm
Stirring up trauma, pushing people into a highly emotional state where they relive old traumas, and then leaving them with no aftercare is the norm for most of these nuage, workshop culture exploiters. Wounded, emotionally flayed victims stagger from "peak experience" to "peak experience," from one expensive workshop to the next.

I've been on the receiving end of the desperate phonecalls from people who've been spiritually devastated by these kinds of abusive workshops. I believe these cult leaders are intentionally inducing trauma so their victims will "trauma bond" with them. It's a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, I think, where they see the people who stirred up the old trauma (and caused new trauma in the process) as the only person who really understands what they've been through, the only person who can really help them. They enter into a cycle of abuse, and as much as it is harming them, they've had their minds so messed-with that it can be incredibly hard to break free.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 25, 2014, 12:14:23 pm
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Many cults seem to induce trance using disguised, non-direct methods. The pre-hypnotic strategies available to, and often utilized by, destructive cults include singling out someone and giving him/her a great deal of positive, special attention which then increases compliance to authority, and the use of group pressure and/or the demand that one "take center stage" and perform something in front of others (who are expecting a specific kind of performance). This tactic, called "love-bombing," is almost universally employed by cults.

From The Manipulation of Spiritual Experience: Unethical Hypnosis in Destructive Cults by Linda Dubrow-Marshall, Ph.D. and Steve K. Eichel, Ph.D., ABPP

http://www.carolgiambalvo.com/unethical-hypnosis-in-destructive-cults.html (http://www.carolgiambalvo.com/unethical-hypnosis-in-destructive-cults.html)

According to the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual, "joining" is an activity that is among required activities for the mid-level managers in this commercial enterprise  (p. 20)

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf
 (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

Dubrow-Marshall and Eichel continue

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By prolonging trance states, and with the use of repeated inductions, the cultist may become more and more pliable, less critical, more dissociated from him/herself and more apt to accept spurious and even preposterous notions as "facts."

Sound familiar?

Here is another case study. The final 60 seconds of this Lency infomercial is particularly worth watching if you prefer to fast forward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5k2Ch77VU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5k2Ch77VU)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on March 25, 2014, 04:12:03 pm

As has been mentioned, PoV trainers from British Columbia have founded a Ngystle Society based in Skidegate on Haida Gwaii, with which they promote and organise PoV seminars, as well as seminars with plastic shaman Erick Gonzalez ( see http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.0  ).

However, Ngystle also promote the use of pseudo-medical devices in their premises. Although the rates are not exorbitant ($ 5 resp meanwhile $ 6 for 30 minutes), it has to be pointed out that they are targeting a non-affluent community. What is worse, Ngystle are using the community newsletters as a platform for publishing advertising articles and they are making numerous health claims attributed to the devices.
Further info on the devices – e.g. a so-called Amethyst Bio-Mat and a device called Trinfinity8 – are provided by our friends at Psiram:

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Trinfinity8

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Amethyst_Bio-Mat

In an advertising article published in the Skidegate newsletter dd Jan 15, 2009, Ngystle say:

http://www.skidegate.ca/Newsletters/Jan15.09.pdf

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[…] A session lasts 30 minutes and costs $5.00.

The Amethyst Bio-Mat is a „pad“ which lies on top of a massage table. As you lie on the Bio-Mat, far infrared rays are passed through Amethyst Crystal. The rays penetrate 6-8 inches into the innermost recesses of the body, stimulating heating and regeneration of nerves and muscle tissue layers. It reduces swelling, increases blood flow and has been shown to destroy cancer and viral cells without harming surrounding healthy cells. The Bio-Mat:
relieves pain & joint stiffness
Increases blood circulation
Decreases hyperactivity
Strengthens the cardiovascular system
Rejuvenates skin & cellular function
Induces deep Delta State of relaxation
Reduces stress and fatigue
Boosts energy & vitality
Burns calories and controls weight
Removes wastes & toxins
Boosts the immune system
Regulates Psychological well being.

All of the above claims are unsubstantiated – the effects have never been proven scientifically. The devices are not acknowledged by scientifically based medicine.

On top of that, the claim of the device „destroy[ing] cancer and virus cells“ may endanger the health and lives of their customers who, relying on such promises, probably delay medical treatment. Another aspect is that Ngystle, as far as could be established from an internet research, does not have any medically trained employees who will be in a position to realise whether clients suffer from dangerous conditions or not.

Claims like „Decreases hyperactivity“, and „Induces deep Delta State of relaxation“ rely on a state of relaxation brought about by spending 30 minutes relaxing on a mat. A „delta state“ must be something new to science. However, this is nothing which lying on the sofa in one's living room wouldn't bring about, either, and this also does not cost clients $ 6. As far as a decrease of hyperactivity is concerned, it is again unproven and unfounded, at least beyond any calming effect to be had by lying down on any sofa at home. Hyperactivity is a medical condition and needs respective treatment by experts, not by Nuagers selling applications of some devices they believe nifty.

Ngystle also claim the device was in a position to „rejuvenate skin & cellular function“. Oh wow – we haven't only got a device to free us from cancer, it's also the proverbial fountain of youth. Or is it? No way. Devices or applications sold with such arguments will have a very restricted effect – the effect of increasing the weight of the vendor's wallet.

The same is true for the claim „burns calories and controls weight“. HTH can any technical device, or rather its inlay of amethysts and tourmalins, burn calories I consumed and control my weight? That's easy: it simply cannot and will not. If losing weight were to be achieved by some mat, or by buying expensive dietary supplements or whatever, the only garment size produced in this world would be size 0.

The claim of the device „removing wastes & toxins“ is a sales pitch often used in the Nuage and pseudo-medical scenes („detoxification“). This claim is rhubarb, too.

Another claim is: „boosts the immune system“. This, too, is quite common within the Nuage and pseudo-medical scenes and lots of soooper-remedies, dietary supplements etc are sold with this promise. However, if you're in a normal state of health, all you need to rely on is your regular immune system. Contrary to such claims as the above, you should rather pray your immune system does not get boosted – since this would mean you developed an auto-immune disease.

The promised regulation of psychological well-being – well, again this can be obtained far cheaper by a good rest on your sofa at home. The device is not able to do anything beyond what your sofa will do for you.

Many of the promises made cannot be controlled by the client and simply depend on clients' impressions. A client believing in the claims and the device's effectiveness will be rather prone to look into the mirror afterwards and be sure they got less wrinkles than before. They expect to have more energy and vitality, so they will feel this way.

Advertising dubious devices with health claims BTW is illegal according to EU law and an offence. I wonder whether this is any different in Canada and how did they get away with using health claims in their promotional texts for the past five years....

All in all, Ngystle bought themselves a few nice money-printing machines: the one effect their devices will have is to generate income for them. Oh, and one of the group targeted by them and ushered onto mats and what else they got in the way of devices are Residential School Survivors.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 28, 2014, 04:09:12 pm
Ngystle Society, Psychology of Vision International Association (with the Swiss bank account), Oneness University, America-China Bridge Ltd., First Nations Fund ...

It would be nice to know if the RCMP, Scotland Yard, Revenue Canada, US IRS, Hawaii Dept. of Taxation and other government agencies are creating a chart as they try to piece together the (literally) crazy-quilt of Psychology of Vision and how all these and many other corporate bodies inter-relate, especially when it comes to money. POV is, after all, a business making an enormous profit from retail spirituality and junk science as they prey upon vulnerable and damaged people.

Part of the insidiousness of POV are the fraudulent credentials the founders present to the world. On a superficial glance Charles Lee Spezzano could pass as a professional. But he is far from that. As documented here on NAFPS, his Ph. D. is not recognised by the APA and he is certainly no psychologist. Yet Charles allows himself to be described as "one of the world’s leading psychologists" as evidenced by this POV marketing in the UK:

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)

If Charles is such a leader, why doesn't he have a listing in Wikipedia? It appears a gentleman named Matt Blythe attempted to file an entry on Spezzano, but was denied because, among other things, Charles was not considered to be worthy of recognition:

http://wiki.verkata.com/en/wiki/User_talk:Mattblythe
 (http://wiki.verkata.com/en/wiki/User_talk:Mattblythe)
Blythe, by the way, has a YouTube demonstrating the "Power of Joining":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M772WwuhP5Y
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M772WwuhP5Y)
One of the corporate entities deserving more scrutiny is Spezzano & Associates Ltd. This enterprise has Charles as President and Lenora as Vice-President. Psychology of Vision appears to be merely a branch and front end of SAL.

Excerpts from the POV Trainers Manual:

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

Quote
p. 4 "The Trainer works with Spezzano and Associates Limited (SAL) to develop the principles, the model and their own process."

Quote
p. 4 "The Trainer works with SAL to develop the means of taking the work to communities and people who are not able to pay the market rate for
training."

Quote
p. 11 "The Psychology of Vision Trainer Has Access to:
 
1. Attendance (without paying additional tuition) to the 10-Day Training (each language will be provided $4000 USD towards English translation).
2. Permission to use the copyright, trademarks, names goodwill of The Psychology of Vision and the right to call oneself a PoV Trainer. (for China speak to China Committee)
3. One coaching session every other month from a PoV Coach designated by SAL.
4. Conference calls with Chuck or Lency."

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p. 21 "All Trainers who enter the program will have to, at some point, deal with their independence issues at a very deep level. This can be
easily recognized and identified when the Trainer begins to act out authority conflict issues through complaining, bad attitude, or other expressions of the rebel shadow or story. This is the biggest challenge for Trainers in the program. Usually, at some point in the training everybody faces these issues and feels they are at a crossroads. At this point, they may decide to go off on their own (and they do so with the blessing of SAL), or they decide to move forward within the Psychology of Vision structure and take positions of authority and assist with policy."

Naturally these passages bring up a host of other issues, for the time being let's focus on exactly what role SAL has in the POV organization. Does SAL overrule the POV Steering Committee (which also has Charles and Lenora as members)? How many stockholders are there in SAL? Does SAL have other non-POV for-profit undertakings? Where does SAL stop and POV begin?   

Lenora's Linked In describes her as a trainer at Spezzano and Associates:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lency-spezzano/16/bb8/285 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lency-spezzano/16/bb8/285)

The Hawaii Dept. of Commerce and Consumer Affairs has Spezzano and Associates Ltd. listed as a domestic profit corporation.

http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=81992D1&view=info
 (http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=81992D1&view=info)
SAL was incorporated in 1990 and the Spezzanos are the only two officers. The corporation's purpose is "TO CONDUCT SEMINARS AND LECTURES THROUGH OUT THE WORLD."

In the tradenames/marks category, rights to both "Psychology of Vision" and "Psychology of Vision Press" have expired. Presumably someone else could snap up those trademarks today. POV's purpose is given as "SEMINARS, LECTURES, SELLING PRODUCTS (BOOKS, AUDIO & VIDEO TAPES, CARD DECKS)."

A look at the POV Trainers Manual will confirm this organization is a cult centered around Charles and Lenora, but even more than that it is a for-profit business selling spirituality at very expensive rates.

   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: DoctorLao on March 28, 2014, 05:42:06 pm
Quote
  "I believe these cult leaders are intentionally inducing trauma so their victims will "trauma bond" with them. It's a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, I think, where they see the people who stirred up the old trauma (and caused new trauma in the process) as the only person who really understands what they've been through, the only person who can really help them."

In case it adds suitably to:  http://omgrey.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/breaking-the-betrayal-bond/  ("Betrayal Bond. Trauma Bond. Stockhom Syndrome. These terms all describe the same thing: a deep, inexplicable bond with someone who has hurt you.")

Coincidentally, I see this same subject comes up today in replies posted at: http://www.manipulative-people.com/can-character-disorders-hit-bottom-do-they-ever-change/

That's a site about psychopathy and covert aggression in society ("the phenomenon of our times"). Not cultism, nor exploitation of native culture. 

As a nonDN, I've no personal cultural heritage or experience from which to speak about appropriation of native tradition and identity first hand.  But in current life and times I do directly, personally experience what strikes me as a rising tide of character disorder and malicious aggression - taking many forms, seeking all kinds of satisfactions.  Always the expense of others - whoever, the more the merrier.




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 28, 2014, 08:08:16 pm
The Ngystle Society is advertising an event "Divine Dance to Awakening" with Bernie Koftinoff. Bernie has been active in the Oneness Movement for many years http://www.meetup.com/Oneness-Blessing-Meditation-Circle-Okanagan/member/128280562/ (http://www.meetup.com/Oneness-Blessing-Meditation-Circle-Okanagan/member/128280562/).
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 29, 2014, 03:07:02 am
lencyspezzano.blogspot.com is no longer open to the public, but pieces of it still surface. I found this in:

https://pipl.com/directory/name/wookey/julie/ (https://pipl.com/directory/name/wookey/julie/)

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A few years back I learned at Oneness University that Joining was what they called deeksha (the Sanskrit word ... Lency Spezzano - lencyspezzano.blogspot.com
If this was "a few years" after attending Oneness University, it seems obvious Lenora was still enamored with the institution for awhile.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on March 29, 2014, 12:35:52 pm
I got some problems to see there an aspect alike a Stockholm Syndrom, even there are common aspects to esoteric bond. Normally the victims are in a situation where they got extreme experiences with threats on the one hand with death or deathtrap incidences and on the other hand a life - saving bonding to the offender is the only one who can save their (victims) life.
Victims are looking for reasons and appologies of the offender´s crime This is a strategy to survive a situation they normally cannot stand by.

I can imagine, the abuse in esoterics ways will develop in dangours ways, like these occultism and satanism which are existing today... 
Some experts say, the boundary between esoteric, occulism and satanism is indistinct.

What possibilities these special esoteric people can use to develop there fraudulant ceremonies maybe will eclipse these fraudulant ceremonies of today.
Are these esoteric people mentally ill? I don´t know....
There are people who are very intelligent, calculating, got a need for power, and what they miss is empathy for life.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 31, 2014, 05:06:43 am
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 1

If you perform a Google search on "Psychology of Vision" or the Spezzanos in short order you will run across websites and posts (some of them now gone) introducing POV with titles like Grifters Hotel, Cult Education Forum, Bad Ads, Taking Advantage of Seeking a Better Life, our own New Age Frauds Plastic Shamans, Plastic Healers, Lency Spezzano's Junk Science Jamboree, and Ripoff Report. Not exactly the kind of publicity any business retailing spiritual enlightenment would desire, but there it is.

POV has gained more than a few critics, and it isn't because these "rebel" thinkers are part of dark shadowy forces as Charles Lee Spezzano would have his lucrative paying customer base believe. Remember reading in history about the "Age of Enlightment"? It was also known as "The Age of Reason." The term "enlightenment" belongs to the critical thinkers, not charlatan capitalists who are marketing tired old retreads of Oneness University practices and platitudes. Charles Lee Spezzano's use of the term "rebel" suggests he considers himself an authoritarian figure. 

Yet Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano claim POV is not a cult?

Even other practitioners in the business of spiritual healing are wary of Psychology of Vision. Although this is not really my cup of tea I am willing to agree there are people in that field who are sincere and walk their talk. Live and let live, except when people get victimized, is my creed. As Grifters Hotel always said, this is about behaviour, not belief.

Dave Oshana--

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"A false teacher will provide entertainment based around ritual much like Morris Cerullo's Christian Healing Crusades. Chuck Spezzano's Psychology of Vision events use emotional songs and on-stage enactments of forgiveness with surrogate parents. Rebirth is a common theme in Ancient Mystery Schools including Freemasonry and Christianity.

Exciting parlour tricks seen on the advaita scene are the classic 'advaita shuffle', 'Who's in?', 'The Three Card Find the "I"' trick and 'Truth, dare or promise'. These devices are fail-safes. If they don't work in producing awakening (and they typically don't in the hands of an unawakened teacher) they at least provide entertainment, bewilderment and confusion. The Zen equivalent of these 'slick-tricks' (as Andrew Cohen calls them but avows to never use) are koans, tea ceremonies and kwat slaps."

http://www.nonduality.com/hl929.htm (http://www.nonduality.com/hl929.htm)

Rasha--

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"The book entitled Oneness, which I transcribed, is not associated in any way with any other teacher, guru, or organization that may also be using the name 'Oneness.'  I have, thankfully, never received 'deeksha' or a so-called 'Oneness Blessing' from anyone affiliated with POV or the group in India calling themselves 'Oneness University.' I do not wish to have unsuspecting, sincere spiritual seekers confuse the pure teachings of Oneness, who some people consider to be God, with the agenda of that organization."
 
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.130;wap2
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.130;wap2)
Kelly Tobey-- In a ratings list of spiritual-oriented workshops, Charles and Lenora Spezzano ranked in the bottom 10% out of 106.

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"In the list of workshops below I will give a grading when I think extra discernment is needed. After the words “discernment needed”, if I put one or more *‘s it is because I think there is an environment of (usually unconscious) encouragement to give your power away to the facilitator's belief systems rather than encouraging you to evaluate for yourself, what fits with your journey, and what does not. In other words the facilitator may not be owning that the belief systems they are presenting, and their evaluations of participants, are her or his perceptions and not necessarily the "truth".  You will also find *'s if I observed belief systems presented that I thought were potentially detrimental. The more *‘s I have used the more careful use of discernment I would suggest. (And to add: facilitators often grow and get better at their craft so some of the people below may be even more skillful now, than they were when I first participated in their offerings)"

"Chuck and Lency Spezzano; Psychology of Vision, Emotional awareness, uncovering of inherent giftedness   Discernment suggested **"

http://www.kellytobey.com/workshops.htm
 (http://www.kellytobey.com/workshops.htm)
Normally the online POV response to criticism has been to simply delete or hide all trace of anything that proves inconvenient to their little charade and hope no one is watching, sweeping it under the rug, such as removing all mention of the strong connection and philosophical indebtedness the organisation has to Oneness University, or the principles expoused on the Healing Metaphors website, both purges of which have been documented on this forum, Psiram, Grifters Hotel (now defunct), Morty the Dog (also defunct). Some creative searching will get you to the dead sites.

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision)

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iJCWUrTOzh8J:griftershotel.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iJCWUrTOzh8J:griftershotel.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Although friends and family of POV have responded on Facebook in predictable reactionary ways, and Charles Lee Spezzano made a very self-destructive phone call to APTN which was aired, the only official post-APTN Investigates (Nov. 2013) responses worth noting are from Lenora Kay Spezzano. She had a series of remarks addressing criticism on her "Joining" YouTubes. After a short time the critiques were deleted but the text of her reactions remain, creating a strange shadowboxing effect. These videos already marginalize POV into what is politely called the "esoteric" category, but her disconnected comments are not doing her or her business prospects any favours and only confirm the image of POV as some kind of old-fashioned medicine show selling snake oil.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

The aforementioned Ripoff Report is where we find the closest thing to an official response to the growing critical investigation of Psychology of Vision.

Here is the original complaint, made in Sept. 2013, before the APTN broadcast--

"Chuck and Lency Spezzano run an international scam. They hold large group trainings around the world, claiming that they are healing. They coerce people into paying lots of money to take these trainings, to climb their hierarchy ladder to become trainers themselves.

These trainings are like the classic Est type seminars of decades past.

They practice affinity fraud by preying on specific communities, draining their money, and training their leaders to continue the scam.

The large group trainings are very high pressure. People are pressured to not go to the bathroom, people are not supposed to leave early or arrive late. Audience members are encouraged to freak out, all in the supposed name of healing. People end up screaming, sobbing, vomiting, laughing hysterically.

Videos of Lency Spezzano doing one on one sessions before an audience are available online.

Classic tools of manipulation and persuasion are used, including hypnosis, coarse language, touch, and aggression.

This isn't psychological therapy, this is not spiritual healing, this is a scam."

On Nov. 3, 2013 Lenora Kay Spezzano filed a response with the leading sentence: "Nothing that is alleged in this report is true." Then she followed with a long narrative that our friend Sturmboe beautifully summed up as: "The answer they wrote in Ripoff Report tells it´s own story. Terrible."

From my own research into the POV cult, the Ripoff Report complaint appears to be 100% accurate. It provides a true premise from which to build. There is nothing in it I find false from my diggings.

Here is Lenora Kay Spezzano's rebuttal with my inserted lecture notes.

"Nothing that is alleged in this report is true. The Psychology of Vision is an organization that is owned by the Trainers themselves (I believe there are presently 52 of us.) All organizational decisions are reached by unanimous decision, either by the Trainers as a whole body, or by the Steering Committee, which consists of the Trainers who have achieved Master Trainer status (there are currently 7) and our program director. Chuck and I, as founders, do not get more of a voice than any other Trainer or Steering Committee member. The organization operates from a completely horizontal relationship between Trainers, not a hierarchy with a cult figure at the top."

As mentioned earlier, POV is a commercial branch of Spezzano and Associates Ltd., the only two officers of SAL being Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano. The actual number of stockholders is a public mystery. That being said, the POV Trainers Manual presents a very different version of what Lenora is claiming here about being flat. Either she has not read the Manual of her cult or she is lying. This multi-layered organisation is far from level and the Manual promotes subservience to Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano, indirectly giving this couple the role of parental authority. The souls who surrender themselves to this scam must be very desperate. It makes me feel sad to see human potential wasted on such a con game to enrich two such obvious frauds.   

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

Quotes from the POV Trainers Manual:

Quote
P. 4 "The Trainer conducts their business in a manner that consistently preserves the reputation of Chuck and Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision."

P. 6-7 "The Steering Committee (SC) is composed of a group of Trainers who make decisions on behalf of the whole. It lies at the heart of the PoV Trainer community as a whole, holding its best interest in mind at all times. Any new decisions being made by the SC for the community are always referred to the LR, which they can then communicate to their region. The SC is responsible for monitoring the evolution of the Trainers and their process. It also is part of the final decision making process for new Trainer applications. The SC handles personal and delicate situations that may arise for Trainers with care and consideration for the PoV community. It ensures privacy of personal and sensitive information and protects it at all times. All individuals coming directly to the SC with a query, complaint or any other communication are referred through the local representative to ensure transparency. The SC respects the trust given to it by the Trainer community of the Psychology of Psychology of Vision. At present, the Steering Committee members are Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Hiromi and Hideaki Kurihara, Jeff Allen, Julie Wookie and Francine Girard."

p. 11 POV trainer required to "Attend or listen to the records of the quarterly conference calls with Chuck or Lency."

p. 11 POV trainer has access to "Conference calls with Chuck or Lency."

p. 12 POV trainer has "Access and permission to download from the website unpublished books and Chuck’s (1600+) card sets to use for sessions, workshops, seminars."

p. 13 "Attendance at the 10-Day Trainers’ Conference each year (without paying additional tuition plus each language will provide $4000 USD towards English translation). This event is the heart of the program. Chuck and Lency share the cutting edge of their work and point all of us as a team at the crest of the wave so it moves us easily, deeply and quickly into our year. Note: Although this is a benefit, it is also a
commitment to attend."

p. 13 "Trainers receive one coaching session every month from a peer trainer or coach. Coaching sessions are the backbone of the program.
They support the Trainers to deal with their issues and stay in the easiest and truest flow of their lives. They are also used as supervision/consultation of cases from workshops and individual sessions. This supervision assists the Trainers to learn their craft and stay
professional. Every six months each coach will write a summary of each Trainer’s process to share with Chuck, Lency and other coaches."

P. 14 "Quarterly Conference Call with Chuck or Lency. Different days and times will be chosen to account for the different time zones. These are compulsory and therefore recorded and translated for all trainers to listen to if not able to attend. Following are the steps to access conference calls recordings on the website: Use firefox for the web browser, sign in and go to “ my account”, open the file manager and click on + in front of the folder “ trainer resources”, select the folder “ recordings”, to download, double click on the call desired (scrolling
up or down to find the appropriate file)"

P. 15 "Chuck’ s Workshop & Session Cards. Trainers have access to download Chuck’s Workshop & Sessions Cards (1600s+ cards) from the website. They are an essential tool to a PoV Trainer. (These are not to be given to non-Trainers.)

Further Coaching with Chuck and/or Lency Spezzano. Chuck and/or Lency Spezzano are available for further coaching deemed necessary by the trainer and their coach. Lency and Chuck hold all of the people in the program dear, and they are available to any Trainer. They don’t have much extra time, so opportunities usually arise during trainings. Sometimes competition, jealousy, specialness issues may arise around access
to Chuck and Lency. Remember those issues are inherited from our families and it is what everyone has to heal."

p. 17 "Staff Chuck and Lency’s workshops and trainings in your country wherever possible. A Trainer is to do their best in this regard. Missing a workshop is like missing a practice. A workshop is a great opportunity for support, which in turn helps the team. Most importantly, attending local works helps brings greater ease into a Trainer’s life." 

p. 18 "Quarterly Conference Calls with Chuck or Lency. Listen live to the recorded Quarterly Conference Calls from Chuck and Lency. This is to insure that the whole community is updated with the latest process and tools from Chuck and Lency. Chuck and Lency then don’t need to repeat themselves as they see the Trainers in their own locations throughout the year."

p. 19 "Study all of Chuck and Lency’ s teaching materials (the books, the card decks, and the triangle). For the English speakers, this
includes all un-published books posted on the Trainers’ Resource Centre on the Trainers’ section of the website. Unfamiliarity with the material is like a musician not being familiar with his music. Trainers need to be able to recommend material to clients and students as well."

(The triangle was pretty much swiped from Bob Trask. The Trask/Spezzano connection and why it was severed is a worthy target for investigation.)

p. 23 "Trainer leaving the program can receive a session from Master Trainers or Chuck and Lency. We recommend this to bring graceful and
supportive closure to their time as a PoV Trainer."

p. 26 Double bonus score in the sexual misconduct section: Mention of POVIA and sexual shenanigans: "While these policies are intended first and foremost for the benefit of participants, they are important for the following reasons as well.
First, ensuring that Trainers maintain high levels of integrity enhances the value and impact of the teachings of Psychology of Vision worldwide. Second, it reduces the potential legal liability of PoV Trainers, Psychology of Vision International Association (PoVia), and Chuck
and Lency Spezzano."

p. 28 "For examples, Apprenticeships are Chuck and Lency’s best opportunity to help Trainers step past some of their chronic issues. The intention of the recommendation to attend one Apprenticeship every two years is to produce more professionalism, dedication, a greater level of success and more team spirit."

p. 29 Level 1 requirements include: "All personal assignments fulfilled (as given by Chuck, Lency or their coach)"

p. 30 Level 2 requirements include: "One 5-day with Lency," and "Attendance in at least one Apprenticeship every two years, a 5 day every
other year with Lency or Master Trainer, and other required training."

p. 31 Level 3 requirements include: "One 5-day with Lency," and "Co-facilitation with Chuck or Lency or a Master Trainer."

p. 31 Level 4 requirements include: "Every year takes an Apprenticeship or 5-day training with Chuck or Lency."
Level? No. A multi-layered cult centered around Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano? Yes. This document is personality-driven, not process-driven.

Lenora Kay Spezzano's Ripoff Report reaction is so rife in fallacies it will have to be dealt with in parts. Given the width and depth of the unprofessional claims she has gifted to the community of critical thinkers, this will have to be deconstructed in pieces. There is a rich compost of material to dig through.

Although it has been proposed in this forum POV leadership is about ego and sadistic power, I believe the profit margin rules over all. These two Spezzanos are, after all, Americans who worship the dollar over any other God as evidenced by Charles Lee Spezzano's hourly rate of over $1100. The only thing worse than asking for such an hourly rate is the poor sod who will pay it. That is the type of individual the Spezzano con game counts on. Desperate and vulnerable.

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250
 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)
More to come in Part Two. Cheers.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 02, 2014, 11:46:52 am
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 2

Here is part two of Lenora Kay Spezzano's reply to a complaint filed on the Ripoff Report:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)
 
Lenora's second paragraph is a single sentence, and this installment of part two will focus on this one line.

"The Psychology of Vision is a path of the heart that focuses on the healing of relationships, leadership (or helping others) and non-denominational spirituality."

Although the UK and North American Psychology of Vision websites had, until early 2014, included the proud claim, "The Spezzanos’ greatest inspirations come from A Course in Miracles and Oneness University" (apparently the Oneness University connection had become a liability so all references were quietly purged with no explanation), the POV has a very Christian veneer. To be more specific, the greatest inspiration appears to be the Catholic upbringing of Charles Lee Spezzano. Hardly "non-denominational." Even a former POV trainer told me the Spezzano corporation had the feel of a religion. And he didn't mean it as a compliment.

As Psiram documents, Charles Lee Spezzano "claims to have studied to become a priest, to have joined a seminary and taken temporary vows, after which he joined Bethel Park Collegiate seminary and attended Duquesne University, where he claims to have studied Philosophy and Psychology, with a B.A. obtained from this university."

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision#Chuck_Spezzano (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision#Chuck_Spezzano)

Note that Duquesne is a private Catholic institution. I point this out because throughout his upbringing and early adulthood, the Catholic Church served as Charles Lee Spezzano's most dominant model for building a business organisation.

The late website Grifters Hotel initially made this assertion, and upon contemplation I believe the writer was on to something. POV is more Catholic than Protestant when it comes to the number of levels of authority in the institution, as well as the emphasis on ritual. Grifters Hotel argued that Charles Lee Spezzano was recreating a fast food version of the Catholic Church, with himself in the role of Pope. A reading  through the POV Trainers Manual reinforces this concept, and a look at the commercial relationship between Spezzano and Associates Ltd. and POV confirms it. Charles Lee Spezzano is on top of a multi-level business corporation that retails junk spirituality and science for profit. 

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

This might also explain why Gay culture has not been recognised in any POV-generated material that I have seen. Lenora Kay Spezzano frequently uses the term "cutting edge" to describe her curriculum, but socially POV seems stuck in the traditional monogamous gender roles that were the norm during the Spezzano's formative years in the 1950s and early 1960s.   

Believe me, my purpose here is not to knock the Catholic Church, but let's face it, that institution is hardly a friend to the natural rights of women. This view is mirrored in Charles Lee Spezzano's ersatz Catholic recreation, and nowhere is that more evident than in an article from 2008 quoting UK cult-follower Jeff Allen who is erroneously identified as a psychologist and founder of POV.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html 
 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html)

The writer/comedian Kate Smurthwaite had a few choice words to share about the POV view of women--

http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html (http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html)

In fact, Charles Lee Spezzano has let his audience know more than once, in video and in text, that God is male when he asks, "Who's your Daddy?"

http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-maerz-2014-2/
 (http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-maerz-2014-2/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiGapL4HNSE  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiGapL4HNSE)

High ritual, steep hierarchy, traditional gender roles = Psychology of Vision. Charles Lee Spezzano is the Pope of POV. In one interview with an admirer Charles Lee Spezzano allowed himself to be described as a Messenger for Heaven, i.e, God's translater. Obviously, in the Great Chain of Being, Charles Lee Spezzano walks among the top ranks of humans, as high as any mortal can achieve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_gen9AsxA
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_gen9AsxA)

And he will bestow his enlightened wisdom to all who seek.

For a price. A very heavy price.



To be continued.


     

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 03, 2014, 11:39:44 am
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 3

We continue to examine Lenora Kay Spezzano's arguments in defense of Psychology of Vision as she responded to criticism of the cult in The Ripoff Report.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)

Here is Lenora's next contribution--

"Seminar participants develop their own connection to grace and healing, and do not need to go through any PoV Trainer at any time to access it. Focus is always made on empowering the participants in their lives, not developing dependency on PoV Trainers. Participants do heal the pain of old emotional injuries and release it, but there is no emotional 'freaking out' in the seminars. Although there is a lot of laughter, none of it is 'hysterical.' The seminar is not like EST, except for similar guidelines about how to operate in a group setting (i.e. be on time, try not to leave the room during a session unless necessary, please do not side-talk to your neighbor - throw all jokes out to the center, etc.)."

First, as always, consulting the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual will demonstrate how often Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano insert themselves as intermediaries between the paying client and the source of "enlightenment." Developing dependency of POV trainers is part of the scam. Empowering people is the last thing POV is interested in. This is a for-profit corporation, not an altruistic endeavor.

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

Anyone who charges $1100 US an hour has no incentive for empowering people as a first priority. That person is motivated, in a very openly arrogant and egotistical manner, by the coin of the realm. It is obscene and outrageous. By charging this amount for an hour of his time Charles Lee Spezzano is worshipping mammon over God and is not walking his talk.

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250  (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

The Spezzanos are the gatekeepers you have to pay off before you can enter the esoteric realm of some artificial and fleeting state of mind they have created. They are the ticket collectors for a bizarre funhouse of their invention. The experience might make you scream and tremble and vomit and perhaps you felt a sense of release, but it was all fake. Fraud. Not real. Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano are not included as the subjects of this forum devoted to frauds for nothing. They have earned this recognition.

People who desire emotional healing need to go to real professionals with real professional credentials who charge reasonable fees, perform responsible follow-up, are accredited by national professional organisations, and don't rely on cheap theatrics and ritual to dazzle the vulnerable and wounded. The Spezzanos fall quite short of meeting any of these requirements.

Lenora Kay Spezzano's YouTube "joining" presentations always focus on her, rather than the client, as the center of attention. We never see a solo camera shot of the customer during the "downloading"," but we have plenty of footage of Lenora's face. This reinforces the idea that a Psychology of Vision authority figure needs to be present for the spiritual transformation to happen. The YouTubes are all about Lenora, not the client. The compliant POV trainers who participated in this demonstration of Lenora's spiritual powers are there as mere props in order to amplify her greatness.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos  (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

The Spezzanos are takers, not givers. Lenora's YouTubes are so revealing. A real professional product marketing person would have advised them to give more attention in those YouTubes to why this "Joining" would be beneficial to the new recruit. The center of attention should be the satisfied customer. But instead Lenora chose to selfishly highlight her talents in the art of somnolence and comes across as a sadist and cult puppeteer. It astounds me that these videos exist for the world to see. The manipulation is so obvious and utterly destroys Lenora's above defensive remarks. POV is its own worst enemy. There is nothing here to attract any reasonable person.

The Spezzanos are fishing for vulnerable people with money who are in so much inner turmoil they are unable to use their critical thinking skills. A cruel person would call these clients suckers. I call them twice victims.

People do freak out in Lenora Kay Spezzano's "joining" sessions, and Lenora herself has provided the evidence.

Here is the most classic example. Start at 3:35--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY

Revisit the above link at about 7:00, watch Lenora point to her right eye, again, and observe Jordan's reaction. The remainder is very disturbing. Empowering? No. Developing dependency? Yes.

EST and POV do share the perception from the mainstream that both of them are dangerous cults. The "group setting" scenario does bring to mind one of my favorite online resources, 10 fun ways to social hack an awareness training from the inside out. I'd love to see the RCMP send an agent to a POV workshop and try out some of these helpful tips.

http://lgattruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/10-fun-ways-to-social-hack-an-awareness-training-from-the-inside-out/
 (http://lgattruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/10-fun-ways-to-social-hack-an-awareness-training-from-the-inside-out/)

So many lies to counter, so little time.

Part 4 is next.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 04, 2014, 02:54:55 am
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 4

Lenora Kay Spezzano continues to react to criticism in her Ripoff Report response.

"There is no cult-like 'us vs. them' mentality in PoV that cuts ties with participants' family and friends. PoV is about recovering failed relationships with our family members, forgiving our parents for our childhood injuries and being accountable for what takes place in our lives. For example, we have received the feedback that First Nations communities in which the Psychology of Vision has been taught experience a cultural Renaissance; as emotional healing takes place in the families, there are not as many crises taking place in the community, and as the level of crisis in the community reduces, members have the luxury of time to learn their languages and ancient skills from the elders before they are lost."

I would agree with Lenora that the POV mentality is not "cult-like." Rather, it is just a straight-ahead "cult" without the "like."

Whenever POV looks like it might be in trouble, Charles Lee Spezzano issues a round-the-wagons "us vs. them" call for his customer base. He employs the use of fear to gather the troops. The outside world is a hostile place, but here in POV you are safe. Keep those payments coming and Pope Charles will protect you.

This sample from the January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter is pretty typical.

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"January 4, 2010 at 9:29am

January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter
Chuck Spezzano

It seems most of us dodged the bullet that came at us in December. Yet, now there is almost a steady stream of attack going on – vicious ego attack, astral attack, fear of change attacks, fear of loss attacks, ignorance and prejudicial attack.

Disengage yourself from anyone who is attacking because even if they are right, they are totally wrong. How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse. Violence except in self defense shows ego-driven behavior which only works for and brings more darkness as we approach the dawn. Have faith. The sky is lightening."

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=261854654609 (https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=261854654609)

From the November 2011 Nightlight Newsletter

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"How November unfolds is so tied to these last few days of October. At the level we are at now, we have succeeded in clearing major catastrophes and have started to reach a place of celebration and leaps forward in consciousness but first priority has always been to clear the danger. We have dodged a bullet in October."

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/10/nightlight-newsletter-chuck-spezzano.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/10/nightlight-newsletter-chuck-spezzano.html)

From the April 2009 Nightlight Newsletter

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"In the last two years we have dodged a number of bullets meant to be catastrophic and one cataclysm was downgraded to a catastrophe."

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/lovingpurelove/conversations/messages/42779 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/lovingpurelove/conversations/messages/42779)

From the October 2009 Nightlight Newsletter

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"We dodged a bullet in September. There was enough healing and transformation so that the collective upheaval that could have occurred was more of a belch than an explosion."

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/IAMradio/conversations/messages/854
 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/IAMradio/conversations/messages/854)

This is all about whipping up terror and creating an "us vs. them" mentality. The fear-based world of Charles Lee Spezzano has more bullets than a Tarantino film. I feel bad for POV followers who suddenly wake up and realize they have been had after spending so much money and energy on nothing but adding to the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. bank account. In Europe that would be the Swiss bank account.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665)

If you go back and read the original complaint about POV in the Ripoff Report, the writer made no mention of cults, or the destruction of families. Lenora took it upon herself to introduce these topics. This tells me she must be well accustomed to hearing these charges in the past and out of habit gave Ripoff Report the standard POV talking points.

Later on in her response (which we will get to later) she makes a conjecture about her critic, "Perhaps someone recommended the seminars to a family member and it was interpreted as a correction or a judgement, for example." It would be safe to say this must be a fairly common happening in order for her to bring it up. So much for bringing families together. 

Lenora's comments about the First Nations is probably the biggest fabrication in her entire rebuttal screed. Surely the Spezzanos knew APTN was going to broadcast a very revealing and damaging piece about them, and Lenora wrote this shortly before the program aired, probably as an attempt at spin control. If anything, it appears Haida Gwaii is politically and socially more dysfunctional than ever thanks in part to the Spezzanos and members of their cult. APTN portrays a society that is hardly enjoying a "cultural Renaissance."

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)

A devastating report by professional journalists should be enough, but if it isn't then one does not have to look any further than this very forum to confirm the last point. Indeed, it is THE main topic of discussion on this thread. There is no need for me to elaborate.

The question is: What are the Spezzanos going to do to make amends to Haida Gwaii and be accountable for the damage they have created?

We will continue this essay with pt. 5.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 06, 2014, 03:58:58 am
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 5

The next two paragraphs continue Lenora Kay Spezzano's response to a Ripoff Report complaint about business practices in the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. money machine called "Psychology of Vision"--

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd/kaneohe-hawaii-96744/psychology-of-vision-spezzano-and-associates-ltd-chuck-and-lency-spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)

"Does the Psychology of Vision use mind-altering practices? By definition, all emotional healing practices, such as forgiveness, would alter the mind in a positive way. Healing removes psychological patterns and obstacles that limit our ability to enjoy our life and have constructive relationships. The result is relief, expansion, happiness and a greater ability to give and receive love. Do we use any form of drug in the seminars? No. Do we use hypnosis? No. Do we use violence and manipulation? No."

"PoV's joining method utilizes love as a healing tool. This love comes from the Source of love (the Creator, Allah, God, the Higher Self - however the seminar participant has chosen to define it) and is effective regardless of the cultural background or religion of the participant. The Psychology of Vision has a non-denominational spiritual framework that leverages its students on their own spiritual path. For example, Muslim students of the Psychology of Vision in Bangladesh appreciate an enhanced direct experience of Allah's love in their prayer time. Seiks in Canada use it to bring more intimacy into their relationship with Guru. Buddhist monks and nuns in Taiwan use it when they advise members of their temple."

She is being misleading at best. In this forum we have recently addressed the issues of the use of hypnosis and manipulation by Lenora, as well as the nondenominational claim. In addition, as she demonstrates over and over in her "joining" YouTubes, Lenora presents herself as the conduit between these astral forces and the client.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

It is in Lenora's next paragraph where we can move into a few new topics--

"The PoV polices itself professionally, and any complaint about a Trainer's behavior is subjected to a review process of accountability and consequences. If any of us PoV Trainers were damaging people we would have heard about it from those victims, or from witnesses of that abuse. If we were swindling people we would have heard it from them or from their families. We have never received feedback that seminars are over-priced or are not worth what people paid for them. Also, seminar participants are not pressed to bring new members to seminars, or to raise funds that benefit Trainers in any way."

Four thoughts immediately spring to mind.

First, it is true that in the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual (p. 21-26) they describe a type of Star Chamber of discipline (with a "permanent record" file) and it reveals the very hierarchy that according to Lenora does not exist. It makes one wonder if Charles Lee Spezzano was subjected to any POV disciplinary measures when he brought shame and a lack of integrity to the organisation in 2004 when the State of Hawaii fined him for impersonating a psychologist.

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf  (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html (http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html)

POV cannot have a situation where it "polices itself professionally" unless they have professionals to begin with, which they don't.

Second, POV has been aware of people who have been damaged by their practices, but in their culture of blaming the victim they simply refuse to accept responsibility. For example, it doesn't take a viewer very long to determine that many of Lenora's clients in the YouTube videos are shaking beyond control. Even some of the onlookers were in a state of tremor. But the Spezzanos apparently don't see this as a problem, as this comment from a 2003 POV forum illustrates--

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"- a Shaker obviously causes attention to be drawn to him or her, and ego latches on to anything like that. It can also be very distracting and even scary for people who don't know. Chuck once talked to The Shaker, and at the same time, had a conversation with the non-shaker in the same person. It was very interesting. There was a choice going on."

http://web.archive.org/web/20050308165054/http://psychologyofvision.net/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000194.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20050308165054/http://psychologyofvision.net/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000194.html)

See? It was the shaker's fault. Not Spezzano's. It would safe to assume Charles and Lenora turned a deaf ear to all sorts of damaged people. There is a choice going on. Just like obviously Lenora also does not consider the fine Charles received in 2004 to be a form of Impostor Syndrome or a swindle of sorts. Or that one of their own POV websites, in UK, is currently advertising the upcoming visit of Charles Lee Spezzano thusly:

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"CHUCK SPEZZANO is one of the world’s leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy."

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)

The man cannot even earn an entry in Wikipedia, and by his admission to APTN he is no psychologist. During this same visit he will charge $1100 an hour for a personal consultation. This is what is known to most people as false advertising and a "swindle" I would say. His God is the Almighty Dollar.

But in terms of finding classic examples of blaming the victim, nothing can surpass the work Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor co-authored by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Patrick (later Ticehurst). In reading these it would be reasonable to conclude that the writing partnership consisted of Patrick describing the malady (given her nursing education) and Spezzano inventing the allegory. Once the mainstream world began to pay attention to this source, it evaporated from the public online world and recoiled from the light of truth as rapidly as references to Oneness University, again without explanation.

Fortunately the Spezzano/Patrick work is still available for public inspection at this link--
   
http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm
 (http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm)

Here are some choice entries. Notice that even in cases of congenital disorders the victim is still to blame. Original Sin is alive and well in these little horrifying Spezzano/Patrick "factoids." The very first example serves as a perfect premise, but many others are given to supply you with a feel for just how sensitive and caring Charles Lee Spezzano really can be--

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Birth Defects

A birth defect is an abnormality that is present at birth.

It represents unfinished business from ancestral patterns and/or a past life metaphor. We are being called to heal this soul level issue.

The area of the body affected can give us more information about the metaphoric meaning of this symptom.

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Down's Syndrome

Down’s syndrome is a congenital abnormality (one that is present at birth). It is the result of having an extra chromosome in our genetic make-up, usually number 21 or 22.

Down’s causes moderate to severe mental retardation, oriental appearance of eyes, flat nose or absent bridge of nose, a single palmer [sic] crease on a short broad hand and a dwarfed body.

If we have Down’s syndrome, it means that we have come to learn some lessons at a soul level. We are here to seek soul fulfillment and the completion of a cycle, yet we are stuck in the transition between the old level and the new.

The two main soul lessons of Down’s syndrome are correcting over-willfulness and giving up the ego’s plan in exchange for heaven’s plan.

Oriental?!?

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Parkinson's Disease

Parkinson’s disease is a nerve disorder characterized by a slowly spreading tremor.

It shows that we are caught in an unconscious fear about accomplishing our soul purpose or promise.

This unconscious, or soul level, issue has us "shaking in our boots."

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Muscular Dystrophy

Muscular Dystrophy is characterized by the wasting away and atrophy of muscles.

It is believed to be a genetic defect in muscle metabolism that can be inherited from one generation to the next. Typically symptoms show up early in life, and it is more common in males than females.

Having Muscular Dystrophy indicates the existence of an ancestral issue that has left us weak, debilitated and afraid (paralysis).

A guilt issue has become a family script and now there is a level of self-attack.

Somewhere in the past generations of our family, there is a belief that being strong, powerful or cruel, caused damage, and therefore we are afraid to have strength now.

Muscular Dystrophy is a compensation to cover over and make up for this issue.

We are being called upon to let our weakness be heaven’s strength.

This inspires us to let heaven be in charge so that we know our power and strength will be used with the highest integrity.

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Meningitis

Meningitis is the inflammation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord.

It represents where we are disillusioned about something that we consider central to our life, which has led to anger, disappointment and death temptation.

Meningitis can point to a surfacing core memory where we felt unsafe and unprotected. Our conflict comes from feeling emotionally attacked in such a way that it steals our courage and makes us fearful.

It can stem from feelings of unrequited love or from not getting what we were trying to get. This can happen in spite of having acted in the correct, prescribed way to get it.

We feel a frustration or anger from not getting what we want. Our conflicts stem from an unwillingness to move on.

While every illness has a relationship component, this one may place emphasis more on our purpose, career or "doing" side.

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Glaucoma

Glaucoma is a disease of the eye, resulting from a pressure build up within it. This pressure can eventually lead to optic nerve atrophy and blindness.

The predilection for this disease is inherited ancestrally. It is representative of an emotional pressure, or a place where a part of us (a self) is suspended in emotional trauma.

We are pushing ourselves to do something, but can’t see a way to do it and go forward.

Blindness eventually ensues because there is something we don’t want to see. At some level we are adamant or stubborn about something.

We are reluctant to recognize our responsibility and the need to change, find the way forward or lead. Instead, we give ourselves away emotionally until we reach a point of feeling stressed and overwhelmed.

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Prostate Gland

The prostate gland secretes fluid, which becomes part of the semen.

The prostate gland represents issues involving sexuality and masculinity.

Problems with the prostate indicate a level of sexual guilt and an interruption to our natural flow or creativity and emotional processes.
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Gall Bladder

The gall bladder is a pear-shaped sac on the under-surface of the right lobe of the liver. Part of its function is to provide gastric juices to the digestive process to help break food down for assimilation.

Problems with the gall bladder indicate that feelings of anger and bitterness have become overwhelming and that we are judging what is going on.

We feel attacked and bitter about something and/or someone’s bold effrontery (gall).

We are projecting arrogance from a shadow figure, a part of ourselves that we have fractured off as an unbearable belief about our self.
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Fibrocystic Breast Disease

Fibrocystic breast disease is characterized by single or multiple benign tumors of the breast, showing that we have cut off an element of nurturing.

While we push to move forward, we are holding on to something unresolved from the past. Part of our life’s purpose is nurturing those around us, but because we didn’t feel nurtured ourselves, we carry a grievance.

This grievance-judgment hides our own guilt, which in turn hides our soul level gift of nurturing. Instead of embracing the act of true giving, we have either adopted a role, or we have withdrawn from the gift of nurturing altogether.

This gift was meant to nurture the very parent we have a grievance with for not nurturing us. All of this is a conspiracy that has to do with giving nurturance.

We see it as too big a challenge for us, because we perceive the need around us as too great.

But, like any purpose, heaven does it through us; we don’t accomplish it alone. So we could receive heaven’s nurturing for those around us.
 
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Fibroids Uterine

Uterine fibroids are fibrous, encapsulated, connective tissue. Found in the uterus, these benign tumors vary in size from a few millimeters to the size of the abdominal cavity.

They demonstrate that we are rooted in the past with some grievance under a buried level of guilt. We have a desire for birth, but are afraid to let go of the past and give what it takes to make a leap forward.

Our desire for birth goes only as far as the desire. The fibroids depict our unwillingness and blockage to nurturing and truly birthing ourselves.

This block stems from a place where we are giving and not receiving.

We may be caught in the mothering role of taking care of the whole family. We are using the role and our family as an excuse to not move forward and live our life in such a way that would encourage and support them the most.

We are being called for commitment to the birth of self, which would generate ease.
The following disease description is particularly cruel given the fact diarrhea is a major killer of children in the world amnd in areas of great poverty. But Charles Lee Spezzano probably thought this was pretty witty.

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Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.
Lenora worked with the deaf earlier in her career. That makes the following entry twice as insensitive--

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Deafness

Deafness is a complete or partial lack of the ability to hear.

It signifies that there is something that we don’t want to hear either about relationship (left ear), or career (right ear).

We have a fear of our purpose, and there is something that we are refusing to learn. There is an area where we have cut ourselves off, which is holding us back from joining the dance of life.

Because we want to do things our way, there is something we don’t want to hear from others or from within. Deafness means we have some stubbornness and unwillingness to listen and communicate.
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Diabetes Mellitus

Diabetes mellitus is an impairment of the body’s utilization of sugar.

Sugar is used in several languages to describe sweetness and love. Metaphoric statements and "pet names" such as "Give me some sugar," "Honey," "Sweetness" and "Sugar love" are abundantly used in the English language with those we feel close to.

The problem with diabetes is not that there is not enough sugar available; it is that the body is not able to metabolize it normally.

Emotionally, there is a hidden fear of sweetness and intimacy. Just as the body can’t completely transform the sugar into a usable form, we may have love in our life, but somehow we are not able to receive or experience it fully.

We might be in a loving, nurturing relationship or be the member of a very loving family, yet we are simply unable or unwilling to feel the love at a deep level.

The problem, therefore, is that we have a block to receiving nurturing and love. This is often an ancestral issue passed on inter-generationally.

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Cystic Fibrosis

This is a disease of the exocrine glands (i.e. glands that secrete externally).

Cystic Fibrosis is an inherited disease, which usually begins in infancy and is rooted in unresolved pain. It affects the pancreas, respiratory system and sweat glands.

Problems caused by this disease include chronic respiratory infections, heat intolerance and pancreatic insufficiency.

Cystic Fibrosis indicates that there is some kind of self-deception going on. Metaphorically, an ancestral ‘big hairy spider’ is weaving a web of deception around us as a result of repressed sibling Oedipal patterns, usually involving a "cyst-er" (sister).

We are unable to "secrete" the pain due to some deep issue from the past in our family. This may be hidden by sexual guilt and revulsion, which are compensations for the attraction.
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Constipation

If we are constipated, then we are having difficulty with our bowel movements, due to the passage of hard and dry fecal material and sluggish action of the bowels.

Constipation shows us that we are holding on to the past. We are holding on to our "shit" (emotional detritus), with a conflict between the need to let go and the refusal to let go.
To truly appreciate the following you need to find a recent photograph of Charles Lee Spezzano--

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Obesity

Obesity is a state of being abnormally fat and is one of the ways in which we hide our true self, true power, purpose and sexuality.

We are caught in major patterns of indulgence and sacrifice; we are substituting food for love, bonding and creativity.

We have deep feelings of insecurity and are trying to fill up our unconscious, hidden feelings of desolation, misery and desperation.

Our obesity is an attempt to create padding to protect us from the shocks and downfalls of life.

Overeating is a way to tranquilize our emotional pain and fear. There may be a massive compensation for feelings of failure.
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Alzheimer's Disease

Alzheimer’s disease is a form of dementia, involving the loss of memory, speech and physical ability that is accompanied by the deterioration of intellectual function and disorientation.

This is the result of a lifetime of unprocessed emotion and shattered dreams, combined with a loss of hope that comes from our feeling that time is running out.

From shattered dreams we derive the feeling of missed opportunities; not living up to our potential, disappointment in ourselves, the desire to return to a better past, unwillingness to deal with the present, regression from purpose and from life, and retreat into the past.

There is a great desire for us to forget and so we live in the past, no longer feeling strong enough to deal with the present, which has only been disappointing.

Suffering from Alzheimer’s means that we have a lot of experiences that we have not understood or processed emotionally.

Suffering from broken dreams, and having been overwhelmed with life’s losses and disillusionments, we withdraw into ourselves and into our own world.
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AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome)

This disease means our body has lost its ability to fight off infection. Infection by the HIV virus has caused serious damage to our immune system.

Normally our immune systems produce antibodies to fight off foreign agents but, because we have a poorly functioning immune system, "opportunistic infections" take advantage and infect the body.

The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.

At some level, we experience an inability to receive or give help. We are caught in a trap of indulgence, martyrdom or rebellion, rather than leadership.

The martyrdom takes the form of not receiving help and at the same time criticizing parents, family and society’s ability to give.

Yet, we are ignoring our vocation, refusing to heed the call to giving, to leadership, purpose, vision and not allowing ourselves to have all the help and comfort we crave.

In the YouTube Can AIDS Be Healed, Charles Lee Spezzano expands on this topic and also claims he has worked in cases where AIDS and cancer have been cured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc)

It was the Spezzano and Patrick entry on cancer that probably brought the most unwanted attention from the POV standpoint--
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Cancer

Cancer involves the transformation of healthy functioning cells into malignant, or harmful, cells. The altered cells transfer faulty information to their offspring, and the cancerous cells grow in an abnormal and destructive way.

Cancer is the embodiment of self-directed anger. It reflects a place of guilt and self-attack.

A traumatic situation with a significant other will have taken place between six and eighteen months before the onset of the cancer.

At some level, it is an attack on another through self-harm. It highlights that we have a need to give that has gone wild, or is completely misplaced, in addition to a fear of our purpose.

Cancer reflects a fear of the next chapter in our life and a fear of major or radical change for the better.

Tumors encapsulate our repressed anger, malice and conflicting, hidden belief systems.

We are trying to shelter our pain or disappointment and are attempting to hold back negative self-beliefs and evil self-concepts. These mistaken beliefs and self-concepts stem from unresolved emotional fractures and broken hearts.

We can get more information about our particular cancer by cross-referencing the information in this section with the body part affected.

For example, if we have cancer of the stomach then we know that our anger is also about our ability to accept, integrate, receive and be nurtured. It may also reflect aspects of introjection, (swallowing others emotional pain).

The late Morty the Dog shared the Spezzano and Patrick description of cancer with the American Cancer Society, who filed the following response--
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Dear Steve,

Thank you for sharing your important concerns with your American Cancer Society.  As you may know, researchers have done many studies to see if there is a link between personality, stress, and cancer. No scientific evidence has shown that a person’s personality or outlook can affect their cancer risk. This information can be found at the link below:

> Questions People Ask About Cancer:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/questions-people-ask-about-cancer
 (http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/questions-people-ask-about-cancer)
The Society often reaches out to organizations when we see something we think is not right, not fair, or not productive to the fight against cancer; however, we cannot do this in every case. That's why we rely on people like you, our supporters, to help us.

Your words can mean more than you might think. As a volunteer organization, we know well the power of the public to change the course of cancer. Therefore, we encourage you to personally contact those who give platforms to Chuck Spezzano and others when you want to express your opinion. Together, we can make a difference.

Thank you again for helping your American Cancer Society to create a world with less cancer and more birthdays.

Sarah
Online Cancer Information Specialist
Attachments provided. Collected by Sandy S.

Rather than defend their dogma, it appears the Ticehurst website censored all Spezzano references and even deleted one of Charles Lee Spezzano's YouTube videos on "Self-Health." According to Psiram, the Spezzano and Patrick/Ticehurst "Healing" information is currently available only by invitation.

http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision#Healing_Keys (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision#Healing_Keys)

One former trainer, who on the whole still praised the Spezzanos, wrote to me and observed this Spezzano/Patrick aspect of Psychology of Vision was showcasing the corporation at its money-grubbing worst and admitted it was an Achilles Heel of the organisation. He dismissed it as a sideshow, which is a typical POV rationalisation. In my view, much like the allegiance to Oneness University, this other deleted portion of POV history is part of the central core of their philosophy. POV is becoming a dwelling where the builders are knocking down the foundations. Sooner or later the whole thing is going to fall down. 

Third point-- the overpriced aspect of POV. In this regard Lenora could be correct in terms of the naive and manipulated cult followers not willing to complain directly to POV. But it is not hard to find such complaints even from POV adherents when one surfs through the Web in a critical manner. I think Brian Lynchehaun, who was on to the POV confidence trickster game ahead of the curve, addresses Lenora's rationalisation quite well when he brings up the behaviour of "buyer's remorse"--

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"So it’s important to note the financial commitment that the participants have made here: they are predisposed to accept most anything that Lency does as ‘correct’ and/or ‘appropriate’. A rejection of what she does would lead to buyers remorse, a state we all try to avoid wherever possible."

http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/ (http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/)

Well said. It has been suggested by critical thinker humanists who want to save cult victims that if POV followers add up how much of their financial resources have been spent on following the Habitrails the corporation requires for loyalty, including taking into account the non-subsidised travel, food, and lodging and then take an inventory of how much your POV involvement has cost in terms of family/friends connection and whatever cultural connections you had in defining your most precious and primal inner self-- the result might be enlightening. True enlightenment, based in the real world.

My impression of the POV trainers is that they are not stupid people (well, most of them), but have been spiritually and emotionally damaged to a point of desperation where the mainstream system has failed them and they are reduced to detouring down a dead-end street called "Psychology of Vision" which is run by a couple of back-alley confidence tricksters. 

In most organisations, the higher you rise, the more power you acquire. But not in Psychology of Vision. Instead, the higher you rise, the more money Charles Lee and Lenora Kay Spezzano can extract from you. One look at the "trainer fee" schedule in the POV Trainers Manual (p. 11) will confirm that. And they remain the top two most powerful people and always will no matter what since they are the President and Vice-President of Spezzano and Associates Ltd., the company that owns POV.

The Spezzanos like to cite the overhead of their operations when defending their outrageous fees. I would counter that you can find someone locally who, unlike the Spezzanos, has an academic degree recognized by the APA and can provide you with better help and follow up at a much more reasonable and less greedy rate.

Some POV trainers have spent enough money on Charles Lee and Lenora Kay Spezzano that if they had invested the same amount in a legitimate professional academic degree they might have had a real future in the field of psychology by now. Instead they have wasted all those dollars and energy on a confidence game and emerged with nothing more than a worthless set of credentials that are meaningless in the real world. They've been had. POV is not Harvard. It isn't even a GED degree. It is nothing. No one outside of the tiny esoteric POV snowglobe respects or recognizes these credentials.

Finally, Lenora's claim that "Also, seminar participants are not pressed to bring new members to seminars, or to raise funds that benefit Trainers in any way" has been pretty well destroyed by our own Ingeborg's research into how the "First Nations Fund" works. Read posts # 144-147 on this forum:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665)

The most authoritative primary source on how the First Nations Fund scam (and the POV Swiss bank account) worked was the German version of the POV Trainers Manual. But, surprise, surprise, this site was removed after Ingeborg exposed the inconvenient truths contained within it right here on this forum. Typical POV response. This joins the Oneness University and Healing Metaphors in terms of Soviet style purges. Censored with no recognition or taking responsibility that it ever existed. This seems a bit hypocritical for an organisation that claims it will help clients face their personal demons of denial.

Here's the link tnat will lead you to nowhere, a fitting allegory for POV--

http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013-dt-Trainerhandbuch.pdf (http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013-dt-Trainerhandbuch.pdf)

So much for "transparency," or "cutting edge," or "paradigm shifts." Same old practices expected as usual from a multinational corporation. Covering up and lying while victimising gullible people in order to enlarge the bank account.

Not that we need any more, but we continue this series of examining the Ripoff Report rebuttal of Lenora Kay Spezzano in the next installment, part 6.





Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 06, 2014, 02:36:34 pm
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 6

Here are the concluding three paragraphs of Lenora Kay Spezzano's rebuttal to a consumer complaint in Ripoff Report. In this final installment of my essay, Lenora makes an attempt to identify the motives of her critic--

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019#comment_1
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019#comment_1)

"For the Psychology of Vision to have drawn such attack, it is likely that two elements are involved regarding the attacker. The first is that the person has a fear of feeling their suppressed or repressed emotions - they are not on a healing path themselves, and feel threatened that other people might expect them to face their emotional issues. Therefore, the Psychology of Vision becomes a frightening thing. The second element is that the Psychology of Vision has become ammunition for a fight the person is already in. Perhaps someone recommended the seminars to a family member and it was interpreted as a correction or a judgement, for example. When that fear is the filter of perception of us, there is little that could be said that would allow us to be seen as well intentioned and beneficial. At the same time, it is clear that the writer of the report has a different agenda - a personal reason for attacking us and attempting to destroy our reputation. He is not someone who is just speaking up to protect innocent consumers. He has never been to a Psychology of Vision training, and has no training in psychology."

"It appears that the fellow also went to all of the Youtube videos we and others have uploaded and posted on each of them the accusation that we are cons running a scam. As if money could be the only motivation for doing what we do? All the seminars that Chuck and I have taught in First Nations communities were ones we donated - often twice a year. It is the opposite of draining communities. So far, no one is getting rich off this work. :) Perhaps the author of the attack does not have an understanding of the overhead involved in promoting events internationally. We require a full time staff of 5 at our home base, for example, and more help during our heaviest months. It is also obvious that the author of the attack has not studied psychology."

"As I mentioned, we are an association of 52 Psychology of Vision Trainers around the world. Our international website is http://www.psychologyofvision.com (http://www.psychologyofvision.com), and Chuck's and my personal site is http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com). The Youtube videos referred to in the report are examples of one exercise - a 'download' - experiencing oneness with another as a way of opening our minds to receiving grace. While the videos do not show the primary form of work that I do, they are a taste of the work. Here is one example:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)."

Now for some disclosure here. I know the identity of Lenora's critic. If Lenora's above stabs in the dark are an indication of her occupational deductive or intuitive ability then I'd say she does not know very much about psychology. The first time I read this I had a long laugh. She is so off the mark on almost every point. Before you ask, no, I am not the writer of that original criticism.

Lenora is correct when she says "As if money could be the only motivation for doing what we do?" Although money is the chief motivation, we cannot discount the motivation of power and the ego-boost of heading a cult. As the YouTubes demonstrate, there is some sort of sadistic game taking place here.

As stated before, her misleading comments on donating to First Nations were addressed by Ingeborg on this forum. As it happens POV has deleted the German POV Trainers Manual from the online world, but fortunately we can provide part of the transcript here.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

It does indeed seem no one is getting rich from POV-- except the Spezzanos. I hope Revenue Canada and the US IRS and the Hawaii Department of Taxation are following this discussion. Particularly the information from the now deleted German POV Trainers Manual about that Swiss bank account--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665)

The figure given of 52 POV trainers is considerably less than the 70+ mentioned in years past. There are more than a few ex-POV trainers and spiritual healing colleagues out there who are not entirely smitten by Charles and Lenora.

I find it fascinating Lenora went out of her way to highlight one of the most damaging and self-incriminating YouTubes on the eve of the APTN exposé. This is the one where she places Babs Stevens under what appears to be hypnosis, making her client virtually comatose by the end of the presentation, and then Lenora presents herself as Melissa Meyer's surrogate mother. This is a creepier than usual "download" and APTN made use of it in their investigative piece. 

In conclusion, Lenora Kay Spezzano failed to make her case and did an inadequate job defending the charge that POV is anything more than a scam and ripoff. The original critique stands.

 


 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on April 06, 2014, 05:16:35 pm
POV is a cult or a religious organisation? Those authorized experts who can explore the different organisations, can they classify POV in a category as cult or religious organisation or something else? I got no experiences and I knew too few about POV to classify.
But I try to envision to myself which results can develope from POV´s way and there are just very few aspects based on a part of the following letter https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=261854654609. Just few, there is a lot coming up in my mind when I try to understand what is behind, and this is my way to see.


From the letter (in italic)

1. "Violence except in self defense shows ego-driven behavior which only works for and brings more darkness as we approach the dawn."
2. "On the other hand, never let anyone victimize you. It hurts you and increases both of your guilt."
"Disengage yourself from anyone who is attacking because even if they are right, they are totally wrong. How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse. "

> 1. What do POV understand about "Violence"? I think POV differentiate between physical and psychological aspects, but what is violence, what is it not?
Some emotions are a kind of violence, and everybody got his different emotions:  Pleasure, mourning, grief, anger, etc. they due in a context to its causations and excited reactions - and this a part of conversation and exchange between people -  should be.
Negative emotions are a kind of violence, they hurt, its causations hurt, the excited emotions hurt, hurt myself and other, maybe. The pain shows there is something going wrong, I want other to know and understand this, I don´t want this any longer, they should stop this. There is no place for a smile in me. And this brings more darkness to me? Yes, this is ok. Or is this wrong, do I got no right to say what is not ok? It doesn´t mean I addict to a constant hate or pain.

> 2. What should I do now with my bad emotions? I don´t disengage myself, I make something clear, I do not want to  tear someone in pieces.
I am guilty for my bad feelings of my bad emotions. Without being guilty I cannot explain honestly to other people what happens to me with their behaviour, I cannot clear the context. If I disengage, how could I reach the other one and ask him to stop this hurt? How could I expect this person will understand me? How could I understand someone whom I have hurt? Could I stop my harming behaviour without facing what I have done and do? Impossible. If I really try to find out what all this really means to my inner, I must confrontate and reflect this. There are the causations, my reactions, my emotions, well this process tells more than words just can do. Well, they belong together. Negative emotions left a bad feeling inside, they don´t feel well, fine or happy. Their task is to identify, to understand, comprehend that there is or was a situation which was bad, it must be stopped. And I don´t smile when I am angry or sad, I don´t laugh and turn my pain into lies. And I don´t misuse other energy.


For some people to feel the pain of bad emotions is important to understand those bad liveevents they have been undergoing, they were terrible, hurting, fearing, false ... and often they learn they are not guilty. (for e.g. abuse, see later).

I know people who disengage - dissociating - their emotions and reactions away from the causations, they got no connection to their inner, they are mentally ill and a lot of them suffer from this way of life. Sometimes the causations, emotions and reactions don´t belong together, they are  acting in a muster and cannot stop this at all. Do POV force this way of dissociation?
People with these kinds of mental desease learn to reflect and confrontate their life, to understand what happened, and then they can change something on their own. This is a hard way to walk to face the facts, maybe integrate ... and look for a good way to live. It is not easy in practice, not successful at every time. Sometimes it is easy towalk, sometimes it seems impossible. This is one part of a psychotherapy, POV do not touch this part.


"Even in situations where you are totally overwhelmed by another’s attack, you can use that energy that comes against you to lift you up into higher consciousness."

What do POV tell me? I use the other one´s energy to fight him back to deliver the guilt, just then I am not guilty anymore. I need to abuse negative emotions to fight against other people, who harmed POV or me in reality or in suggestions? And its causations? This is a terrible feeling to behave in this way. And I must be blinded not to comprehend what I do to other people (critics; ...), blinded fore the harm, suffer, tears, I will be guilty. There is no excuse in delivering guilt. This is not the way I want to live. But this seems the way POV want from their people?
In a higher consciousness it is easy to lose the sight and contact to life. This higher consciousness is too far away from living, there is no nearness and no place for reflection.
Could POV ever understand, comprehend the processes of other way of thinking, emotions, reactions, is there even a place for it?
Or better put this in honest words: This must not be a part of a successful aim in their "therapy", it would be counterproductive for the results. Results? "To forgive" To forgive whom and what? Who is part of the world?


"The key is to value peace, which shows how much you value yourself and to employ forgiveness when you are not peaceful to bring you peace. It is our purpose to forgive the world. It is what we came for. This shows that we do not value smallness, nor consider ourselves small but recognize our greatness and equally that of others as children of Light, though some may have lost their way. Peace is the gateway to true greatness, rather than the exaggeration of the ego. Peace generates love, abundance and happiness. What is in our mind, even the most hidden bits, are displayed in the world around us, so to forgive is to forgive ourselves for the hidden negativity within us."


Peace is not something I can get or buy, I must work for it, and a higher place to reach is not my kind, not in this way I got to see this in a forced connection with forgiveness.
Do POV understand, there are lifeevents of people who don´t want to feel peace for it, that there is no place to forgive? Noone should tell me whom I have to forgive, whom not. This is always my individual decision. POV tell me if I forgive other who hurt me, I don´t forgive myself; but this is a cruel correlation, a lie.
What does it mean to violated victims: If victims forgive their tormentors, they forgive themself (victims)? This is a cruel emotional blackmail and maybe they will clutch at these straws to disappear from the pain, they don´t want to live with it.
Those tormentors who hurt other, abuse, misuse, hit, afflict, crucify ... do POV forgive them? Do POV really imply the victims they should forgive their tormentors to forgive themself? Have they (POV) ever felt on their own, what they force the victims who are been hurt to do? If the victims are not successful to forgive, maybe they feel guilty, feel guilty as the tormentor told the victim again and again and again: "You are guilty for what you have deserved." The tormentor justify his violation of the raped woman. Cruel!
There are people who don´t want to feel peace or forgiveness. Are the victims wrong? I saw the documentary "Höllenleben" at youtube and the woman was asked, if they can forgive their mother. No, they cannot. And the woman, all these people of this group in this woman, they all got the right to say this. (Höllenleben is a documantary about a woman with DID who survived satanic abuse, the documantary is hard)
I know about people who where hurt very hard through their lifeevents, they got the right to say "I am so angry and I don´t forgive." Who got the right to tell them they must forgive?
All this does not mean, these people stay in bad emotions for all the time. But to feel the pain shows them very true that something was very wrong.
Certainley they look for peace and a good way to live, but they chose on their own. This is a great difference. And maybe some of them can forgive teir offender, maybe, maybe not.
To forgive this is no the right of POV, and this not therapy what POV is doing.

 
I don´t think, POV wants to walk this cruel way, but how often they do it? Do POV know something about psychology? I can not say, but I could imagine yes. How deep is their understanding and knowledge and what do they misconstrue I cannot say.
I fear, in this special way POV works, there can never be conversation and understanding, there is never a deep listening. For POV it seems easily to pervert or lose some facts, embedded in some true facts - a cruel mix losing its real meaning. And they don´t have a close look what they cause by their work. Truth and understanding is not what POV is looking for.
In their work they I see, that they have got and work for a therapeutic aim in mind. There is a beginning, a reason to start their therapy. But what they don´t do: They don´t let the people walk their own path with an individual aim of therapy, they cannot find their needs, cannot reflect themselves. There is no way to walk, this "mid" way, is it lost, forgotten, misused?
And what is about the end of the therapy, its results, are they dissolved and cleared? It doesn´t seem to me, maybe that's also not what POV wish, they want dependency, no freedom, no own decisions. But responsibility is everybody his own thing. POV is not responsible because everybody chose on its own to follow POV, no matter how free is somebody to be able to chose.
You cannot deliver responsibility, even POV cannot do this. But in this case, what is responsibility?

This is just few I understand from the little of their work POV offer, if they would offer more, I don´t know what results are coming up. Maybe POV will fear the answers of critics and experts.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on April 06, 2014, 05:32:51 pm

@Sturmboe:

can you please effect one change to your above contribution?

DE kursiv = EN in italics

(Although we use the term "kursiv" in German language, English-language readers will rather make a connotation to "curse" which means something completely different). Thnx


For matters of convenience:

Bitte ändere doch das "in kursiv" oben auf "in italics". Englischsprachige Leser haben sonst eher den Begriff "curse" vor Augen, was fluchen bedeutet. Danke.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on April 06, 2014, 08:39:59 pm
http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/[/url][/quote][/quote]] (ftp://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)
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Lenora's comments about the First Nations is probably the biggest fabrication in her entire rebuttal screed. Surely the Spezzanos knew APTN was going to broadcast a very revealing and damaging piece about them, and Lenora wrote this shortly before the program aired, probably as an attempt at spin control. If anything, it appears Haida Gwaii is politically and socially more dysfunctional than ever thanks in part to the Spezzanos and members of their cult. APTN portrays a society that is hardly enjoying a "cultural Renaissance."[/color][/color]

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)
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A recent response from First Nations leader in British Columbia in regards to the viewing of new age cults plaguing our indigenous peoples as reported on plastic shamans Aptn investigates.   


Approaching 70, with my privileged life nearly half over, I reflect on the condition of Indian Peoples:- I have seen the effects of the Whiteman's government, religion and foolish assumption of superiority. It is a sad and sorry litany of abuse.-My Mum often spoke lovingly of the time when the POTLATCH was our only form of government AND religion. She lived this ideal all her life, remaining a strong MUSGAMAGW even in the face of the destruction brought by the churches, DIA, welfare and industry. I am glad that she did not get to see the PHONY HEALERS & THEIR CULTS, the most recent group of maggots feeding on the decaying flesh of our Nations.- They are the NEW SMALLPOX sent to destroy Our Peoples.

Hemas Kla-Lee-Lee-Kla (Chief Bill Wilson, BA, LLB)

To learn more about this true blue leader read:

First Nations Chief Bill Wilson retells family history in B.C.

ww2.canada.com/vancouversun/features/apology/story.html?id=ed488591-6320-409a-bbc6-1043d170c9f1



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 07, 2014, 11:11:15 am
Attached for educational purposes and in case the RCMP did not get a chance to read Section K (First Nations Fund), the non-copyrighted 2013 German version of the Psychology of Vision Handbook (must be signed in to view).
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on April 07, 2014, 05:40:54 pm
here is a link to a little poster that says a lot..

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1525360_10152205535464297_627747463_n.jpg

there is help for those people that had this happen to them.

here is a link that may help to open up and seek other ways and directions in seeking recovery.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/fw/counseli.htm

 if you've been deceived and deluded by a recruiter into joining a high demand cult group.. remember that you are not the first and unfortunatly not going to be the last, remember that you are not alone ,there are many caring legit people and a lot of helpful information that will help you in recovery.   
  if you're considering joining a group, prevention is the best medicine and researching about the groups is the best remedy, this nafps site is an excellent place to start researching whether groups are harmful or credible.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 08, 2014, 06:42:55 am
Before Charles Lee Spezzano's "Self-Health" 2010 YouTube was deleted from public view by Janie or Julian Ticehurst, his quote in the video sermon about the cause of diseases was documented--

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"You can't have health problems unless you feel guilty about something, and then at an even deeper level you can't have a health problem unless you're getting revenge on someone."

Spezzano's Twitter promoted the video--
https://twitter.com/ChuckSpezzano/status/12429692405 (https://twitter.com/ChuckSpezzano/status/12429692405)

But if you follow the link provided on Twitter it has been removed. It was in YouTube under Janie's name--
http://youtu.be/7JABEQNu18k (http://youtu.be/7JABEQNu18k)

This was the same YouTube where our friend NoCon had questioned Spezzano's professional credentials in the comments, especially given the fact in Janie Ticehurst's Healing Metaphors biography, her co-author Charles was described as a "psychologist." Julian Ticehurst gave this reply--

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"That's true. Chuck Spezzano is not a psychologist, he isn't licensed. He describes himself as a Coach. Janie describes herself as a Health Coach. Janie is a Registered Nurse. She is not licensed to counsel or to be any form of psychologist. All the best and thanks for raising this important point."

Snip taken from the source is attached, courtesy of a person interested in social justice for First Nations (I salute you! Good catch!)

A few months ago the College of Registered Nurses in British Columbia confirmed there is no one in their register under the name of "Janie Ticehurst." So either she is registered under her maiden name, or she isn't registered at all in BC. It is possible she might have been registered elsewhere, but that would not do her any good after she migrated to Canada. In any case, she needs to do some updating here so if a BC citizen wishes to lodge a complaint about a supposedly professional nurse promoting destructive and superstitious health advice, such as the above quote from Charles Lee Spezzano, the CRNBC can take disciplinary measures without using detective work.

Shortly after Julian's response appeared, the entire "Self-Health" YouTube was removed.

Just for emphasis and because an attempt was made to cover this up, let us read this quote from Charles Lee Spezzano once again--

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"You can't have health problems unless you feel guilty about something, and then at an even deeper level you can't have a health problem unless you're getting revenge on someone."

This, my friends, is really the keystone to the Spezzano & Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision scam. You are bad. We will rescue you while charging incredibly high fees and if the attempt fails it is your fault because you are bad. We are never to blame.

Around and around it goes. Many SAL/POV trainers go out in the world and attempt to duplicate this scam with their own spin. In British Columbia, this has translated into a disaster that will take a few generations to repair for FN. Two words spring to mind: Affinity Fraud.

In a previous post our comrade moreinfo has provided a link for people brave enough to start the journey back to the real world and escape this vicious circle of SAL/POV manipulation.




 








Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 08, 2014, 08:13:23 pm
Here's a quick rough draft attempt in identifying the Spezzano & Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision structure and current personnel. My sincere apologies if I have inaccurately transcribed some of the names. I was using Google translator and it is highly possible some of them need correcting. This is a draft and is meant to be fine tuned and enhanced.

Top tier

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Spezzano & Associates Ltd.

Charles Lee Spezzano, President

Lenora Kay Spezzano, Vice-President
---------------------------------------------Charlie Latiolais, Office Manager

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2nd tier

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Psychology of Vision Steering Committee

Charles Lee Spezzano, Lenora Kay Spezzano, Jeff Allen, Julie Wookey, Francine Girard, Hiromi Kurihara, Hideaki Kuirhara
----------------------------------------------Francine Girard, Program Director, other executive duties

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3rd tier, by region, and subdivided into further tiers by trainer level, if known:

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Europe

Level 3: Susanne Ernest
Level 1: Anke Schuppan, Anne-Kathrin Koch, Claudia Schönfeld, Kurt Sommer, Mathias Keller, Rebecca Wildi, Torsten Konrad

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Taiwan

Wendy Shieh, Daphne Wang, Krystal Hsu, Jordan Kao, Chi-Ching, Joy Huang Huishu, Yanni Hwang, Joyce Cheng Cheng, Ian Y. Lai, Amanda Blue.


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ASK Taiwan/Hong Kong

Peter Lo, Franklin Fan, Twiggy Lam, Marissa Fan, Avis Law, Kelvin Ho, Camille Liu.
Staff: Jenny Soares

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Canada (chiefly British Columbia)

Level 2: Susan How
Level 1: Doug Anderson, Babs Stevens, Joanne Roberts, Betty Lou Hunt, Charles Campbell, Melissa Meyer
Staff: Marianne Vermilyea

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UK/Ireland

Master Level 4: Julie Wookey, Jeff Allen
Level 2: Sue Allen
Level 1: Alex Patchett-Joyce, Alison Banks, Avril Woodward, Barb Jones, Evie Prior
Unknown: Nicky Rangecroft
Staff: Linda [Sankey?]

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Japan

Master Level 4: Hiromi Kurihara (also works in Singapore's "Growth Vision"), Hideaki Kurihara
Level 2: Yume Yuko, Mami Yoshida
Level 1: Kumakura Riko, Yukiko Ito, Murai Kumi, Shimakura Junko, Naoko Takahashi








Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 10, 2014, 04:25:31 am
"Realize that when you have an illness, some hidden part of your mind wanted it to occur."--Spezzano and Ticehurst

One of our NAFPS readers asked me to write a little more about the Healing Metaphors A-Z by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst. I earlier posted several of the very cruel descriptions of various misfortunes by Spezzano and Ticehurst where the person suffering the malady is always at fault--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)

By extending this train of thought as these writings apply to individuals and then imagine turning it to whole societies it would be logical to conclude that Charles Lee Spezzano also believes the entire FN civilization suffered their abuse and near-genocide at the hands of Euro North American Manifest Destiny invaders because it was brought upon themselves for their bad behaviour. We may as well include the treatment of native Hawaiians, Jews in Central Europe in the 1930s, African-Americans throughout United States history, Chinese and Korean victimisation by Japan in the 20th century, women in all cultures throughout time ... the list is endless. This evil  philosophy and outlook would be consistent with someone having the belief that he is God's agent and has a strong sense of entitlement. Someone like well-fed American white male early Boomer Charles Lee Spezzano. Miracles come easy when you marry into money.

There is no sense of social justice here. The victim is showered with guilt in order to be manipulated with the end result being the "rescuer" making a profit. That is, in a nutshell, how POV captured Haida Gwaii. After POV falls, Haida Gwaii leaders who bought into this scam will be recorded in history as collaborators of frauds who sold their own culture down the river in exchange for-- nothing important. Not a legacy most people would cherish.

NAFPS has already posted evidence how Charles and Lenora feel superior to Asians, so it is natural to assume this racism is not limited to one culture. Both of them were raised in the 1950s/1960s in areas where if not political then social race segregation was rampant. They still have some deep-seated generational/regional issues to work out as they try to reconcile themselves to the realities of the 21st century, judging by their writings. In Lenora's case we can add the layer of substantial affluence as a further barrier to the experience of the "common" person, which introduces a substantial class division as well as a racial one. Lenora never was really grounded to the personal economic realities of normal working people, to put it in a polite way. 

Charles is one very disturbed, insecure and vainglorious character-- sort of like George Armstrong Custer. Look at the way he portrays himself (or allows it to happen) in various POV websites, Facebook, and Twitter. This is one BIG ego blinded by his own magnificent self. Yet, even a cheap pop culture website like Wikipedia considers him too unworthy for coverage.

The Healing Metaphors can be still be viewed on the Wayback Machine. In spite of later efforts to erase it from public view, as well as eliminate Spezzano's connection to it, you can still read it here--

http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm)

In my earlier coverage I neglected to include the "Healing Keys." After throwing the victims in the dirt and stomping on them, Spezzano and Ticehurst offered a series of "Healing Keys" to help the potential high-paying customer rally back to life. These "Keys" are also listed in the same webpage above. In many examples the cure is worse than the disease or problem.

Before I highlight these special remedies, I want to point out that their website does state at the bottom margin of the first "Key"--

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Please feel free to quote - Please would you note that it is from "Janie Ticehurst" or Chuck Spezzano" or "Lency Spezzano" as credited and include a link to www.healingkeys.com. Thank you very much!

Here are the "Keys," which I will note are the full responsibility of "Janie Ticehurst" or Chuck Spezzano" or "Lency Spezzano" (this reads like a Boolean argument resulting in badness). So sit back, relax and take a deep breath, but don't clear your mind. Instead, use it.

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Love and Bonding

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind.

Imagine yourself as a baby in your mother’s arms. Feel the light inside of you joining and connecting with the light inside of her. Now feel the light from within her connecting with the light in your father. In the same way, now, feel the light within you connecting and reaching out to the light within everyone around you as you grow into the present time.

You may need to repeat this exercise, especially with those close to you. Continue feeling the light inside of you joining with the light inside everyone who comes to mind until you feel completely peaceful, loving and loved. You can do this exercise until everyone has turned into light.

Now envision the part or parts of yourself physically, and at a mind level, that are experiencing the symptoms of your illness. Also do this with any emotional aspect that you intuitively feel may have led to this illness. Intensify your awareness of this part of yourself.

Feel all the love that you have in your heart and soul, as well as all the love that heaven and those around you want to give. Pour all the love flowing through you into the fearful, guilty or conflicted parts of yourself that led to your illness. As you pour this love into yourself and others, experience how this changes and heals the situation.

This is an excellent exercise to do once a day, focusing on the most traumatic times of your life until they are full of peace and have been re-bonded. In a few days, or when you get to the next stage of growth in your life, another level of re-bonding may be required to heal the same incidents again at a deeper level in this new stage of growth.

Love and Bonding - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Choice

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. It's time to make a new choice about your illness.

    You may have a thousand layers of conflict that have brought about a chronic illness. Each choice for health leads you in the right direction. One openhearted, sincere choice could clear many or all of the other mistaken issues.
    What is the new healing choice you want to make?
    Consciously make this choice when you first wake up in the morning, and make it again just before you go to sleep at night. Include this choice at any other time you think about the illness.
    Every choice you make for wellness and healing your illness can help. It is especially helpful to choose to resolve any fear, anger, guilt and conflict you may be experiencing, as these feelings can exacerbate the illness.

Choice 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Forgiveness Exercsie [sic]

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind.

Realize there is a grievance at the root of every problem, and using your intuition and trusting the first answer that pops into your head, ask yourself:

If I were to know who it is that I have a grievance against, it’s probably _________________.

Picture this person standing in front of you.

Ask for help from your higher mind. Recognize that you have used this grievance to hold your whole life back. Now choose not to use this person as a way to hold yourself back. Choose this situation to become a place of peace instead of grievance.

Ask for the gift of forgiveness to fill you. Now, specifically ask for forgiveness for this person to fill your heart and, when this is complete, feel the energy of forgiveness flowing from your heart to theirs. Ask your higher mind to help with this flow. If the new situation does not feel completely joyful, repeat the last part of the exercise. Through willingness, each time you practice this exercise you will make it and yourself better.

Forgiveness 2 - More information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005


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Gifts

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Reflect quietly on your illness. Feel into it and ask yourself what gifts are hidden underneath it.

Take some time to reflect upon what the main gifts might be. If nothing comes to you, set your intention for the answer to become clear in your dreams or to somehow show itself metaphorically during the day.

If you keep your intention on this, and really want it, then it will be revealed to you. Examine how your illness is a defense and a distraction from receiving these gifts.

Ask yourself the following questions using your intuition, trusting the first answer that pops into your head:

    What is the main gift that your illness is meant to defend against ?
    Why have you been afraid of this gift ?
    Imagine yourself energetically embracing and embodying this gift.
    Who needs this gift from you?
    As this person comes to your mind, feel yourself sharing this gift with them from your heart to their heart.

Repeat this with each gift that comes into your mind. Giving the gifts that your illness is hiding will reinforce your awareness of your gifts. As your need for the illness as a defense disappears, so will the illness, and you will be free.

Gifts 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005


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Grace

Relax and take a deep breath. It is time to allow grace into your life and as a healing agent for your illness. Sit quietly and clear your mind of everything except your illness.

Ask your higher mind for help here and now and ask that grace be poured into your fear and the conflicts generating it. Feel the healing energy of grace as it touches the roots of your illness. Grace will come to you as you ask for it.

Ask for it to fill you. Welcome this healing energy and fill your life and relationships with it. Feel your emotional burdens and your illness melting away in the love and light of grace.

Grace 2 - More information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Integration


Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Realize that when you have an illness, some hidden part of your mind wanted it to occur. Answer the following questions using your intuition, trusting the first answer that pops into your head:

    How many selves have been generating the conflict that caused the illness?
    How many parts of your mind actually wanted this illness?
    On how many levels are these conflicts and self-destructive parts occurring?
    No matter how many pieces or layers there are, feel the energy of each side of the conflict gravitate to one or the other of your hands. As you visualize all the conflicting pieces in each hand, ask yourself: What do they look like? What color(s) are they? What shape(s) are they? What do they smell like? What texture are they? How heavy are they? What sound do they make? Really feel the energy of each side of this conflict in each of your hands.
    Melt all these pieces and layers into a golden, white energy, the basic building block of the universe.

Now, gradually bring your hands together, joining the energy. As your hands come together and your fingers interlock, the energy may combine itself into a new healing symbol or may remain as this golden, white energy.

This will always occur unless the next layer of conflict comes up. You can always integrate anything dark or negative into your higher mind and the light of your spirit. If dark feelings or symbols keep coming to the surface, you have the opportunity to clear a great deal of what’s been holding you back.

Integration 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

The next one is a good argument for letting go of POV and getting a real life again--

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Letting Go

 Letting go is a very powerful healing principle. Underneath every illness lies an attachment, and the extent of the illness is the extent to which we are holding on. We have a need that we think will be fulfilled by maintaining an attachment to something from the past that we feel is now missing in our life.

We try to get this need met by holding on, even though what we are holding onto may no longer exist. Our need for the thing that we are holding onto may grow into an indulgence, from there to an addiction and finally into an idol, which we think will save us and make us happy.

Subconsciously, we believe that somehow our attachment will meet our needs; however, it is the act of holding on, and the fantasy that accompanies it, that keeps us from moving forward. Our ability to receive is blocked by the levels of need, demand and expectation that are a part of any act of holding on. Our holding on, and its self-defeating tactics, keep us stagnant and point us in a death direction.

Willingness to find what we are holding onto and let it go allows us to become free and enables us to move forward. As we let go of whatever illusion or fantasy we have held onto, we move back into the flow of life. Paradoxically, having let go, we become open and able to receive.

Letting go of the attachment causing our problems in health can heal us and move us into the next stage of our life. When our heart refuses to move on, our attachment holds us back in our life. Holding on keeps us bound to where we were and ties up our energy, turning us away from availability and life. The principle of letting go is that whenever we truly let go, something better will come to take its place and will move us forward in a whole new way.

Here is a powerful Letting Go Exercise
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from 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

A repeat of "Bonding," I think
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Love and Bonding

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind.

Imagine yourself as a baby in your mother’s arms. Feel the light inside of you joining and connecting with the light inside of her. Now feel the light from within her connecting with the light in your father. In the same way, now, feel the light within you connecting and reaching out to the light within everyone around you as you grow into the present time.

You may need to repeat this exercise, especially with those close to you. Continue feeling the light inside of you joining with the light inside everyone who comes to mind until you feel completely peaceful, loving and loved. You can do this exercise until everyone has turned into light.

Now envision the part or parts of yourself physically, and at a mind level, that are experiencing the symptoms of your illness. Also do this with any emotional aspect that you intuitively feel may have led to this illness. Intensify your awareness of this part of yourself.

Feel all the love that you have in your heart and soul, as well as all the love that heaven and those around you want to give. Pour all the love flowing through you into the fearful, guilty or conflicted parts of yourself that led to your illness. As you pour this love into yourself and others, experience how this changes and heals the situation.

This is an excellent exercise to do once a day, focusing on the most traumatic times of your life until they are full of peace and have been re-bonded. In a few days, or when you get to the next stage of growth in your life, another level of re-bonding may be required to heal the same incidents again at a deeper level in this new stage of growth.

Love and Bonding - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Purpose

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Then answer the following questions using your intuition, trusting the first answer that pops into your head:

    Your illness is a distraction from your purpose. It is a way of stopping you from leaping forward in vision to see what it is you are called to give. What percentage would you guess that your illness is keeping you from your purpose or its next level?
    It’s time to change your life-direction away from the distraction of illness and toward your purpose. If you feel that you are already living your purpose, there is obviously more that you are called upon to do and have done through you.
    Commit to your purpose. If you want to know and live your purpose with your whole heart, you will. But if the illusion of fear is greater than your desire, you will not succeed. Ask that the fear be removed. Choose to know and live your purpose, because you will know yourself and your happiness, as you step up to keep the promises your soul made for this life.

Ask for help and grace to complete your purpose. Fear of our purpose comes from thinking we have to do it all ourselves. In truth, when our purpose is accomplished, it will have been done through us by grace.

Purpose 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Trust

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Allow yourself to realize that trust is the power and investment of your mind. It has to be given either to fear or to success.

Choose to give it to success. Feel, see and sense everything turning out well. Feel, see, sense and hear a new and happier future turning out for you. Open yourself to healing with a new confidence, knowing that healing can and will occur.

Move through any fear or negative emotion by choice and will, until you can feel a great faith in your own healing. Do this until the thought, feeling and confidence of a positive outcome opens up.

As your trust increases, so will your openness to love, grace and healing. As this place of trust grows from within, you will begin to feel the increased certainty of healing.

Every time you think of your problem, know that you have a choice in how you invest your mind. Do you want success and health, or illness?

In the time to come, whenever you think of your situation put your trust in yourself and in the situation. Invest your mind wisely as it creates your reality.

Trust 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

As far as the following goes, I'd suggest to Charles Lee Spezzano, with his non-APA accredited Ph. D., "Doctor, heal thyself"--

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Truth Exercise

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Allow yourself to realize that it’s time to commit to the truth, and specifically to the truth of having good health in your life.

Ask that the truth about your life and the untruth about your illness be revealed to you. When your desire for the truth becomes greater than your fear and attachments, the truth will reveal itself to you and liberate you.

Invoke the truth when there is anything other than excellent health in your life. Desire the truth as an easy way through any problem.

Truth 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

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Understanding

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Use your intuition to explore your illness.

First of all, look for negative emotions or unfairness in the situation around you. Negative emotions are signs of misunderstanding. When this occurs it will eat away at you and generate problems, which can be health problems.

The principle is this: where there is pain there is misperception; where there is misperception there is misunderstanding.

Examine your life , both past and present. If something hurts, even if it was the past, you have brought the pain and misunderstanding into the present.

Go back two years before the onset of your illness and makes a list of all the painful situations in your life that occurred between that point and the present.

Next to each situation write what the emotional pain was, and also the misconception and misunderstanding that you made (you should have three columns: ‘Situation’, ‘Emotional Pain’ and ‘Misperception and Misunderstanding’).

Later you may wish to make another list of all the significant misunderstandings and painful experiences in your whole life.

While this may take a little study, it is very worthwhile. Learning to think in this way can save you years of pain where, from a position of righteousness, you might have felt that someone caused you pain or aggravation.

If you feel bad, then you are responsible, because you have misperceived and misunderstood.

Next, ask yourself how the situation, pain and misperceptions serve you.

    What self-image are you using this to re-enforce?
    What does it allow you to do?
    What is it you don’t have to do?
    What are you using it to hide from?
    Who are you attacking with this self-image?
    When you attack yourself with this self-image, how much narcissism and spitefulness is there in it?
    What excuse does this self-image give you?

As your understanding develops, you may begin to realize the extent to which you have been using emotional pain as a defense, especially against fear.

Once you realize that emotional pain is part-and-parcel of an ego strategy, mistake or misunderstanding, you can begin to understand the situation and make another choice.

Ask yourself the following questions about the disease itself, and the misunderstanding beneath it, trusting the answers that spontaneously come into your mind:

    With whom do you have the misunderstanding that needs to be healed?
    What is the misunderstanding about?
    How have you used the misunderstanding?
    What purpose does it serve for you?

Allow the energy of your understanding to fill you. Build a bridge of love and connection to the person with whom you have the misunderstanding, instead of using them for some purpose that can only hold you back.

Build bridge after bridge until you feel love and bonding completely restored. Ask your higher mind to give you understanding. You will know when this occurs by the peace, compassion and self-value you will feel.

Understanding 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

Look into my right eye. Look into my right eye. Look into my right eye. Look into my right eye.
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Willingness

Relax and take a deep breath. Clear your mind. Sit quietly and relax. Feel all the stress melting out of you, down through you out of your feet and into the floor.

When this feels complete, ask for heaven’s help to bring you into a new level of willingness today. This willingness will open you up to whatever form of healing wants to come to you.

It is time to be willing to take whatever steps you need in order for healing to occur. If this feels difficult, or if you feel resistant, then just choose to be willing to be willing.

Willingness will open up layers of your mind or emotional aspects of your illness for healing. Willingness moves you quickly through this territory because you no longer use it to hold yourself back. The greater the willingness, the bigger the leap forward you can take.

Willingness 2 - More Information

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

For some reason this has all been hidden from public view. Gosh, I can't imagine why. It is so profound!

Hey, did I just see a crowd of eyes rolling?


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 11, 2014, 12:33:31 pm
POV has lost a lot of trainers in the last few years. You don't have to go too far back in time to discover a list of trainers that numbered well over 70. Now they are down to 52. That is considerable license fee revenue lost for the Spezzano & Associates bank account.

There are many indicators out there that being part of the Spezzano & Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision corporate bureaucracy is not all that rewarding, but this relatively sudden drop in trainer numbers is pretty dramatic. The question is-- why?

Just as SALPOV has attempted to erase all online mention or connection to one of their "greatest inspirations" Oneness University, so too have some former trainers tried to distance themselves from any connection with SALPOV.

My favorite subtle sleight of hand came from the former trainer who is in the attachments here. Compare the profiles, particularly the "now you see it, now you don't" final sentence. I believe she changed this around the start of of 2014.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on April 12, 2014, 02:07:57 pm
Lenora's Ripoff pt. 5

Notice that even in cases of congenital disorders the victim is still to blame.



To me it seems in frauds practice the guilt and to be guilty got another - very harming - meaning. These people (victims) are not just simply guilty. There is more to it than meets the eye.

Just some thoughts:
"Transmitted Blame": People are guilty for a guilt they should not to be blamed - ideally - by a guilt caused by bloodline, ancestors, families, gene, prior - lives, deseases, etc.; pleaded guilty as criminal charged and sentenced to live this life: They have to bear the blame.
They could not prevent it, could not help it but they are guilty.

"True guilt": They are also be blamed for the way of life they really live(d), for their acts, emotions, thoughts and words, and for some deseases.

"False guilt": They are also be blamed for things, situations they are not guilty for, but other people, offender, told them so again and again until they believe it, they got to believe it. Sometimes there was no other way to survive this situation - no matter if their feelings told them there was something happened was definitly not right, maybe they breaked this feeling down, the truth hurts too much and they cannot survive this knowledge.
If frauds tell victims they should forgive their offender, thus frauds can confirm the guilt of the victims, force them to feel guilty and be ashamed of what happened without clearifing the situation. The way alike often the offender did / do it, offender will be much obliged for the frauds work.


Guilt and shame feel unpleasant, maybe victims ask those frauds: "Please, put this experience in my life away, make this all undone."
Certainly some frauds know that this wish is impossible, but they find a way, these victims learn to live with a temporary dissociated guilt: The guilt vanishes untill something happens like a trigger and the guilt delivers again from the subconscious to the conscious what was concealed. Frauds can abuse this facts to drive the people in a devil´s circle of guilt, shame and fraudulant therapies.

If the victims are denied and too confused to explain the blame, they cannot comprehend why they feel guilty and be ashamed in the context of their life and circumstances, cannot identify of which experiences they are guilty, which share they got and which not. There is no way to walk for heal.


This suits some people:
Victims live in an inconsistent life of different forms of guilt and shame and they are not able to help it on their own.
They are in a dependency, can not control and - be often blinded - they are at the mercy of frauds by their helplessness. And they are alone, in a frauds circle which screens the life from outside, reflection becomes more and more difficult, sometimes impossible.
Guilt and shame become a power tool and can be abused by frauds again and again, push victims in a devil´s circle and confirm the guilt.
Those who are really guilty for a victim´s blame, for e. g. offender, deliver the guilt, proceed as usual, maybe they tell the victims "you have deserved to be guilty and got to be punished." Offender become judge and execitioner. Frauds and offender can avail each other.

Victims got to live in a inconsistent antagonism with a constructed meaning behind, charged lies hold up the fraudulant construct.
The "transmitted blame" could make it generally possible to dissociate easier for the victims, the genuine feeling for a real directed relationship to the blame is missed. But on the other hand they cannot refuse what they cannot identify. Caught in a interspace, and no feet on the ground.
The events in which they are really guilty ("true guilt") are likely to trigger the feeling of guilt and shame, which hold up the presence of the wholeness of guilt and shame in general. This can be misused in false contexts. Thus, victims are tangible and vulnerable. There is no way for victims to learn to live with their guilt.
The "false guilt" can be used to confirm the guilt of a victim, their feeling to be harmed by the blame and shame.

This kinky mix-context of lies, half-truths and truths in the context of the different forms of guilt is often difficult to disentangle for the victims.
To be true victims should not differentiate and solve the different forms of blame, this would be counterproductive for fraudsters work. And victims themselves are to often not able to refuse their loyalty to the helping person (fraud), wether he harms the victim.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 12, 2014, 11:24:56 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano's upcoming hourly rate for private consulting during his UK visit just went up from £675 to £700. Until last December the website said "His fee is $1000 USD per hourly session" and then converted to the £675 (over $1100 USD) amount. I find it interesting the advertised fee changed from dollars to pounds.

So in just a few months his rate went up almost $200 USD. Imagine the size of the ego and self-delusion of the person allowing the marketing of themselves at this fee. As vainglorious as Custer.

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

http://web.archive.org/web/20120712103525/http://www.povevents.com/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20120712103525/http://www.povevents.com/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/)



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 13, 2014, 12:10:07 am
Jeremy Marchant of Emotional Intelligence at Work, a UK business consulting enterprise, has this data included in his biography--

Quote
"He learnt the practical application of emotional intelligence from Psychology of Vision.  He assisted with the development of the PoV UK Fundamentals of success programme for businesses and he is accredited by them to deliver this programme. He has completed the PoV Steps to leadership programme and over one hundred days of PoV workshops."

http://www.emotionalintelligenceatwork.com/jeremy-marchant/#.U0nQuld7Tpc (http://www.emotionalintelligenceatwork.com/jeremy-marchant/#.U0nQuld7Tpc)

There was another part of this website called "Our Use of Psychology of Vision" which was still there a couple months ago, but now it seems to have vanished. It had a photograph of Charles Lee Spezzano taken when he was much younger, and included this somewhat revealing description--

Quote
"A primary source of emotional intelligence at work‘s EI material is based on Psychology of Vision, as developed by Chuck Spezzano.  This takes a largely mainstream post-Freudian approach [see, for example, Eric Berne, A layman’s guide to psychiatry and psychoanalysis] and elaborates it with extensive borrowings from other sources of which Carl Jung, NLP and transactional analysis are the most obvious.  Chuck’s genius is to keep the complexity but hide it from the client (unless the client is interested in it) so as to provide a powerful transformational approach."

As of right now, this link is dead. Cannot say if it was taken down on purpose or not--

http://www.emotionalintelligenceatwork.com/resources/our-use-of-psychology-of-vision/#.UnGgheKzLpe
 (http://www.emotionalintelligenceatwork.com/resources/our-use-of-psychology-of-vision/#.UnGgheKzLpe)

This quote is an illuminating and unique observation on Spezzano's methods by a POV cult member.




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on April 13, 2014, 10:01:34 am

Well, in the context tells that much, and this does not support their work at POV;
if POV uses just some aspects and they adulterate the original therapies, the results can be terrible for some .

Psychoanalysis is being discussed controversial, some supporters deny any changes in the Freudian therapy, others modify it.
However, everybody should be aware very keenly that this "going back to childhood experiences" could be dangerous, the patient maybe had to confrontate harmed experiences, maybe he cannot stand by, they overwhelm him and under which he may collapse. In traumapsychotherapy there is the realization that psychoanalysis is very often contraindicated, rightly.

NLP, Neurolingiustisches Programm = neurolinguistic programm), people say you can use this for better communication, but it is also abused for brainwashing, it sometimes also be combined with hypnosistherapy or parts of hypnosistherapy, for e. g. "NLP Hypno coach." But know very few about NLP.

Aspects from Transactional analysis I know by behavioral therapy. It is a long way for people to learn step by step to find out, why they got their behavior, which emotions and reactions appear and why. They try to understand themselves and they search on their own for a better way to live. This is not easy, do not feels always well.


http://www.dgta.de/pdf/TA-Definitionen.pdf about Transactional analysis, translated:

"Transactional analysis (TA) were founded by the American psychiatrist Eric Berne and today it is enriched, modified and further developed worldwide.

The TA provides theoretically established consistently very philosophical , psychological concepts to live near people with respect to themselves and others with their experienced reflected reality, to anlyze and modify if necessary. TA integrates ideas from the depth psychology, Gestalt theory, behavioral therapy and from systemic approaches.

Specifically defined transactional analysis is a qualified dealing with the of realities through communication. Therefor are relational aspects in the foreground and the gestalt / shape of encounters. The use of transactional analysis concepts got his aims to make life meaningful and joyful and to cooperate equal with each other.
This is done to the satisfaction of Transactional Analysts mainly through the promotion and development of autonomy as self-directed , spontaneous and to be able to  apply oneselves expression in and around the world.
"



only german
http://www.fresh-academy.de/nlp/?

gclid=CMnr8r3r3L0CFRCWtAodmyMAlQ
http://nlpportal.org/nlpedia/wiki/Hypnose

http://nlpportal.org/main/links
with some links for english literature and texts

german and english
http://www.xing.com/net/mindxcel
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 15, 2014, 12:12:54 pm
The attached snip speaks for itself--
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 18, 2014, 04:33:12 am
Although Charles Lee Spezzano includes business consultant advice among his services, his own Spezzano & Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision is not exactly a shining example of a thriving organisation. In fact it appears to be experiencing shrinkage, with limited prospects for the future. The Canadian First Nations experience is their weakest area and perhaps an indicator of what the future holds for SALPOV. It is also likely to be the next place where SALPOV will be openly investigated by law enforcement, especially given the targeting behaviour which was codified in the German version of the POV Trainers Manual, covered in this forum by Ingeborg.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

Naturally, that manual was quickly taken offline after it was translated here into English. But I expect the RCMP has read it by now as well as several investigative journalists. If not, we still have it available for your enjoyment.

If you look in past versions of the SALPOV website you'll find they had many more trainers than today, and nowhere is the decline in numbers more dramatic than in Canada. SALPOV also had more central administrators: Hawaii Business Co-ordinator (Peggy Chang), Business Manager (Ian Haugh), and Public Relations (Susan How)

http://web.archive.org/web/20030801100100/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/contact.htm
 (http://web.archive.org/web/20030801100100/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/contact.htm)

In his LinkedIn, Ian Haugh still lists his SALPOV employment as "Chief Executive, Spezzano & Associates (Psychology of Vision), September 2001 – June 2008 (6 years 10 months)" and "CEO & Trainer, Psychology of Vision UK, Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Alternative Medicine industry, 2000 – 2007 (7 years)."

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ian-haugh/6/477/543  (http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ian-haugh/6/477/543)

However, in my mind, the President of Spezzano & Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision is the real CEO. And that person has always been Charles Lee Spezzano. There is no way the Spezzanos are going to relinquish total control of SALPOV. This has hurt them. A true thriving business does not disempower the employees, instead it trusts them to do well. In a paradox, letting go of power actually increases your ability to influence. The Spezzanos have not learned this.

One has to wonder about the alternative universe version of this cult's development if the top two had trusted other people more-- if the Spezzanos had allowed themselves to be handled by true professional publicists how much farther they would be today. I doubt even Lynne Franks would have allowed Lenora Kay Spezzano to release those obviously scammy "joining" YouTubes, which are becoming a laughing stock at parties around here. Or for Charles to release those corny YouTubes one critic has called "The Chuckster the Huckster Show." Instead of Lenora going overboard with misleading rationalisations on Ripoff Report and Charles making such self-destructive statements for APTN Investigates, they could have employed a real professional to supply superb doubletalk. Who knows, maybe a seasoned spokesperson could have reined in some of the damaging Facebook comments by peripheral characters in this drama like Julian Ticehurst and young Christopher Spezzano.

In the old websites, SALPOV was expanding. There was the Gaia-Mind website http://web.archive.org/web/20030618094424/http://www.gaia-mind.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20030618094424/http://www.gaia-mind.com/) and, unlike today, a very open embrace of Charles Lee Spezzano with the "Healing Metaphors," which he co-authored with Janie Patrick/Ticehurst, complete with the SALPOV logo stamp of approval http://web.archive.org/web/20030805174005/http://healingadventure.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20030805174005/http://healingadventure.com/)  . It seems today this is hidden under a rock since it has proven to be somewhat embarrassing, even to other trainers. Another example of retreat and shrinkage.

During the highwater point for SALPOV they had an active forum the public could read http://web.archive.org/web/20090105194235/http://www.psychologyofvision-forum.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20090105194235/http://www.psychologyofvision-forum.com/) -- This feature was discontinued, perhaps due to Facebook. Recently SALPOV used the expensive non-transparent commercial product Comindwork as a cloudtool for communicating official transactions. What is striking about the early forums is how many of the participants in there are still involved with SALPOV today in one way or another and how few new trainers have been recruited.

But the biggest difference I see in looking over these earlier SALPOV websites is how the language has changed. The Spezzanos attended Oneness University in India in 2007 and later counted it as one of their two "greatest inspirations." After that point words like "deeksha" and "oneness" and "oneness blessing" began to crop up. Oneness University was praised for several years on SALPOV websites and the philosophy of this institution was incorporated into SALPOV teachings. The "Card for the Day" issued by Charles Lee Spezzano honoring the founders of Oneness University on August 29, 2010 read--

Quote
AMMA AND BHAGAVAN is the card for today. These are enlightened avatars in INDIA and they signal your friends in high places whatever your beliefs. In writings around A COURSE IN MIRACLES it states that their [sic] are more masters on the earth right now for the 'celestial speedup' and the opportunity we have to leap to a new level of consciousness that is interdependent instead of independent.
 Let us be thankful for all the work and grace these masters bring us and how they model a higher way. The growth of spirituality with its incumbent love and joy will rise as we learn the mutuality of interdependence. Let us be open to the work these older brothers and sisters from all over the world are providing for us.
Posted 29th August 2010 by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/08/amma-and-bhagavan.html
 (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/08/amma-and-bhagavan.html)

Even to this day, a First Nations administrator named Babs Stevens who is aiding the Spezzanos in their profit-driven ethnocide of Haida Gwaii lists herself as a "Oneness Blessing Giver" in her LinkedIn profile and on Twitter as a "Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver."

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30
 (http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30)

https://twitter.com/babsstevens (https://twitter.com/babsstevens)

Check these out too for Oneness U. influence--

https://www.gwaiitrust.com/AGM_2010.2011/HH_2010.2011/HH_Nygystle_Application_Dec_1_2010.pdf (https://www.gwaiitrust.com/AGM_2010.2011/HH_2010.2011/HH_Nygystle_Application_Dec_1_2010.pdf)

https://www.facebook.com/events/218148471551173/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/218148471551173/)

Around the start of this year SALPOV went on a bender attempting to remove all online trace of the Spezzano connection to Oneness University (obviously they missed the above reference), apparently in response to catch up to a claim made unofficially by Christopher Spezzano--

Quote
"My parents also have NO affiliation whatsoever with Oneness University. They and some of their students attended some of their courses a number of years ago, but were shocked and disgusted to learn about some of their practices. My mom actually spearheaded a campaign to learn and expose the truth about Oneness University. My parents do not support their practices, community, or methods. They have wanted nothing to do with that organization once they had an opportunity to learn more about them. They adamantly steer people away from that organization, their practices, and beliefs. They would NOT want their students to be affiliated with that organization in any capacity. You and your so-called 'researchers' need to get your facts straight."

"Doing your homework" and "getting your facts straight" is a Spezzano hallmark reaction, as well as calling any criticism "libel," "defaming," and "character assassination." After Christopher Spezzano's Facebook comments, a mad rush was made to erase all mention of OU on SALPOV websites, even the Oneness University listing on Charles Lee Spezzano's LinkedIn vanished. When Christopher's comments were posted on this forum awhile back Ingeborg commented Lenora's anti-Oneness University efforts must have been a covert operation, since there is nothing online to support this claim. But there is plenty of evidence SALPOV endorsed Oneness University long after 2007, clear up to 2014 in fact. If these online worshipping comments remained up online in error, then it does not speak well as a business model in terms of SALPOV's ability to communicate, does it?

SALPOV is still teaching philosophy and using semantics taken from their Oneness University experience. In an ethical business, once a flaw is discovered in the product, the consumers are alerted and a recall is issued. But in the Spezzano case, Oneness University was simply erased from their history as if it didn't exist. No formal statement has been given. For a group that uses the term "transparency" so much in their manual, they don't seem to exercise it.

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

If I were a SALPOV client or trainer I would ask for a rebate. If Christopher Spezzano is right, then his parents are teaching something they don't even believe. This makes them scam artists.

The Spezzanos need to issue official statements on the German POV Trainers Manual coverage of the First Nations Fund and the Swiss bank account, the Healing Metaphors cover-up, the 2004 Hawaii fine for Charles impersonating a professional psychologist, the deletion of Oneness University from their history, the false advertising of Charles as a psychologist, and how they are going to repair the damage they have created on Haida Gwaii. Instead, my guess is that they will simply shrivel up and count their money.

After the APTN Investigates piece, Lenora announced 2014 was her final year of international touring. Charles is not getting younger and as the law and press closes in he'll probably fold up soon. This is a personality-driven cult and since the Spezzanos have not groomed any obvious replacements, I see a dead-end future for this business enterprise. They are now a damaged brand.

As the tough economy keeps chugging on, young people want authentic training and academic/vocational degrees that will give them a job. SALPOV, as a fringe cult, is not going to give them that. Having SALPOV on your list of credentials is worthless. Comparing it to Harvard as Christopher Spezzano did, is ridiculous. It has no value. It has no future. Even as a vehicle to fill the Spezzano bank account it appears to be faltering. Maybe there is hope for the world after all.

























 



 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on April 18, 2014, 05:51:57 pm
Chuck Spezzano will visit Burg Rothenfels and held workshops in english with german translation

http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10305&gclid=CJm

Sometimes he is mentioned with the title "Dr. der Psychologie", but this titel seems directly translated from english into german. In germany Dr.der Psychologie" is an accredited degree and it is not allowed to use this titel when you are not a psychoplogist.
I think the title of Speezona should not be translated in this way because it implys to german people a false profession.

German page:
http://www.pov-int.eu/uber-uns/chuck-und-lency-spezzano/
Der Bestseller-Autor Chuck Spezzano ist Doktor der Psychologie
engl.:The best-selling author Chuck Spezzano is a doctor of psychology
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 19, 2014, 03:50:24 am
Speaking as a former member of the faculty in a respected research university, I would say Spezzano's weak academic resume would not earn him an interview in the institution where I was employed. At the time he was given his Ph. D. (which was not even in clinical psychology), his school was not accredited by the APA. Plus, his 2004 Hawaii fine for impersonating a psychologist in a case that resulted in an unfortunate suicide has never been fully explained in SALPOV literature. That alone would kill any chance he had in the world of real professionals.

Yet, Spezzano has allowed himself to be touted on a POV website as "one of the world’s leading psychologists" in marketing his 2014 UK visit, where he'll also be charging almost $1200 USD per hour for personal consultations. This man has no shame. He has earned his place here on this forum as a total fraud. We can only hope Scotland Yard is paying attention while he is in the UK.   

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

Another entry in the long list of lies from SALPOV.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 21, 2014, 04:06:13 am
This is a sad case I am about to relate since it demonstrates the desperate lengths people in pain will go to in order to find relief and how scam artists are just waiting to pluck them up. Ever notice in most biographies of SALPOV trainers how they were in some state of despair/unease/pain with their lives spiraling downward and out control at the time they joined up with this cult? Or they lacked direction and needed to be told what to do? Or they were just plain needy? No one in a moderate state of mind based in reality would even consider handing over thousands of dollars to these obvious dodgy confidence tricksters. Only the vulnerable get on board.

Marianne and Michael Vermilyea of Vancouver BC were SALPOV trainers at some time in the recent past, but both are now out that status. Marianne however remains connected as a staff member, helping Susan How coordinate events, if the SALPOV Canada website can be believed.

Marianne, unfortunately, suffers from Macular Degeneration, a not very fun disease of the eyes. I wish her the best in having this condition healed.

According to the co-authored Charles Lee Spezzano (with "RN" Janie Ticehurst, or, Janie Patrick) "Healing Metaphors," Marianne has this disease for a reason--

Quote
Macular Degeneration

Macular degeneration is a breakdown of cells in the eye resulting in loss of central vision in the affected eye, while peripheral vision remains unaffected.

This condition represents the way in which we are missing what is obvious, in front of our nose, and central to our life.

Suggested Healing Keys:

Purpose
Truth
Grace

OR

Choose from List of Healing Keys:

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

http://web.archive.org/web/20130606035534/http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/MacularDegeneration.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20130606035534/http://www.healingkeys.com/Metaphor/MacularDegeneration.htm)

In short, Spezzano says Marianne has this problem as a result of her own doing. I guess that even though she had attained SALPOV trainer status it was not enough to save her from this malady.

Charles Lee Spezzano told us in a YouTube he worked with people who defeated cancer and AIDS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc) , so why hasn't he saved Marianne using the "Healing Keys"?

Evidently Marianne bypassed the SALPOV method and moved to another "spiritual healer" who the Spezzanos can only observe from afar and salivate at his profit margin with envy, Dr. and Master Zhi Gang Sha--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w)

What is that Sha has and the Spezzanos don't? Passion. Charisma. A true sense of show business. The SALPOV machine has grown tired, weary, outdated, using phrases that have been behind the curve for several years. Their YouTubes are corny and have gained an audience who view them only to laugh. They had it so easy for so long. They are in a commercial money making machine dead zone, victims of habitual thinking. But now the waters grow rougher and they can't bail out the boat fast enough as they sink.

I am guessing Marianne has consulted professionals on her condition and it has not generated the results she desires. I find it fascinating that rather than lean on SALPOV for a solution she jumped the fence to another "spiritual healer." So much for the "Healing Metaphors." Even a SALPOV insider needs to go to a competitor for help.

Given the widespread condition of cancer which has an impact on almost every family in North America at some time or another, it astounds me that SALPOV followers still accept this exceptionally destructive and ignorant description of people who suffer from this disease. I regard the following statement as almost genocidal, as in, "these people are weak, they deserve what they get"--

Quote
Cancer

Cancer involves the transformation of healthy functioning cells into malignant, or harmful, cells. The altered cells transfer faulty information to their offspring, and the cancerous cells grow in an abnormal and destructive way.

Cancer is the embodiment of self-directed anger. It reflects a place of guilt and self-attack.

A traumatic situation with a significant other will have taken place between six and eighteen months before the onset of the cancer.

At some level, it is an attack on another through self-harm. It highlights that we have a need to give that has gone wild, or is completely misplaced, in addition to a fear of our purpose.

Cancer reflects a fear of the next chapter in our life and a fear of major or radical change for the better.

Tumors encapsulate our repressed anger, malice and conflicting, hidden belief systems.

We are trying to shelter our pain or disappointment and are attempting to hold back negative self-beliefs and evil self-concepts. These mistaken beliefs and self-concepts stem from unresolved emotional fractures and broken hearts.

We can get more information about our particular cancer by cross-referencing the information in this section with the body part affected.

For example, if we have cancer of the stomach then we know that our anger is also about our ability to accept, integrate, receive and be nurtured. It may also reflect aspects of introjection, (swallowing others emotional pain).

Suggested Healing Keys:

Purpose
Truth
Grace

OR

Choose from List of Healing Keys:

From 'Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor'
© Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst 2005

As described earlier on this forum, the American Cancer Society very neatly negated this specific absurd and sadistic Spezzano/Ticehurst premise. When I read the above statement, and many of the other Spezzano metaphors I can't help but feel these views either sprout from a very Catholic sense of guilt, or from an enthusiasm for the concept of Eugenics. Either way, this central core of SALPOV theology is not a positive or healing philosophy. It is all about making the follower weaker so the Spezzanos can jump in as surrogate parents, "saving" the client while emptying their finances. I do not understand how anyone can lose a loved one to cancer and still accept the above condemnation of the victim by a total fraud. If you are a SALPOV cult follower who has lost a loved one to cancer, and if you still allow the above description to define that person, you have sold your soul to the Spezzano bank account. And I feel sorry for you. You are indeed a member of a cult.

Think I'm wrong about the "surrogate parents" idea? Read the POV Trainers Manual before you judge--

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf
 (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trainer_Manual_2011_English.pdf)

The RCMP and the College of Registered Nurses of British Columbia is reading this, I hope. 



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 24, 2014, 11:54:49 am
The "Healing Idols" card pack by Charles Lee Spezzano should be his next forthcoming "Tarot-lite" effort. In his LinkedIn profile (the same one where his 2007 attendance at Oneness University mysteriously vanished), Spezzano lists this as his current literary project--

Quote
Chuck Spezzano's Projects

    Healing Idols Deck
    Team Members: Chuck Spezzano

    New Card Deck looking at the idols that distract us from our True Selves

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396)

This is from the August 2, 2012 Spezzano blog--

Quote
Idols are both some of the most common and at the same time some of the deepest traps. Idols are the false gods we worship depending on them to make us happy and save us but they can be bitterly disappointing so it seemed a great issue to shine some light on

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/08/it-turned-out-to-be.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/08/it-turned-out-to-be.html)

Of course this deck would not be complete without a card about Charles the Idol himself, right? And I'm sure he'll supply that. And shadow rebels exist, and astral attacks are real, and Lency's "downloading" is genuine, and Haida Gwaii is experiencing a cultural Renaissance thanks to SALPOV, and it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime.

I wonder if the impending release of this for-profit Spezzano work is one reason it suddenly became so important to bury the Spezzano/Ticehurst "Healing Metaphors" from public view? Perhaps the latter mentioned work existing online would hurt the sales of the former? Just a thought, probably off the mark. I'd like to provide a link to the astoundingly misanthropic work at the core of Psychology of Vision's theology, where the victim is always to blame, even for birth defects--

but as it so happens the Metaphors which were available thanks to the Internet Archive have been (big surprise) removed just in the last 48 hours!

http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20130915052756/http://healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm)

Oh, what a shock, yet another of the many rather messy and inconvenient historical Spezzano truths have been censored from public inspection. But what about the "transparency" so touted in the POV Trainers Manual? Fortunately, the most important nuggets of the Charles Lee Spezzano "Healing Metaphors" have been documented on this forum. So when his "Healing Idols" deck is published, critically minded reviewers can consult this "Healing Metaphors" foundation of SALPOV theology on NAFPS as a foil for the nonsense Spezzano is sure to pontificate in the card deck. We are performing a public consumer protection service.

Just joining us? Here's a slice of the "Healing Metaphors" just so you get an idea--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)

These official "Metaphors" are still available if you are anointed by the cult. I have not seen what they look like since they have run away into a protected zone, safe from public scrutiny, like frightened entitled people fleeing into a gated community so they won't be contaminated by (shudder) "ideas." I'd be curious about a few things behind that Iron Curtain. Is Spezzano's name still associated with them? Are there still metaphors for cancer or down's syndrome? Is there a stated reason back there why they are hiding from the world? Is this how SALPOV trains its followers to respond to criticism?

http://www.thebodyrelationship.com/ (http://www.thebodyrelationship.com/)

In SALPOV there are three main dogmatic supports holding up this sagging cult. First, the "Healing Metaphors" really spell out just how SALPOV view their clients in contempt and make them crawl for help. I would propose the vulnerable are kept that way until they are financially squeezed dry. This essential part of their theology is currently under a purge from public view. Second, their one of "two greatest inspirations," Oneness University-- like the first example, this has proved to be an uncomfortable association even though it has provided SALPOV with their main theology and much of their current terminology. Again, like the first example, SALPOV has gone to great lengths to erase all history with it, with no public statement. Third, the Course in Miracles. Still openly embraced.

A house divided against itself cannot stand, as Lincoln said.

Given the increasing speed in which both Spezzanos are descending into the 9th level of megalomania I should think "Healing Idols" will be a hoot to read for cult-watchers. Both Spezzanos now come across as smug and supercilious members of an economic class and self-appointed station that should make this new card pack drip with irony.

Attachments from August and September, 2012
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on April 27, 2014, 04:49:11 pm

I found a promotional text on PoV on a German website whose name translates to 'healing directory'. It is basically a platform publishing promotional texts by alt-med healers, therapists, spiritual healers etc as well as a short introductory text on the resp healing methods. Persons or companies who wish to publish their info may join the platform for free, but there is a premium membership allegedly providing the service of the entry being found more easily. The site also carries Google ads.

They have got two texts explaining what PoV allegedly is, one by a German Newage author, the other one written by PoV DACH:

http://www.heil-verzeichnis.de/therapien/psychology-of-vision-%28pov%29-1238/


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“Psychology of Vision is a groundbreaking healing model developed by Chuck & Lency Spezzano, in which modern psychological knowhow takes effect with spiritual principles. It demonstrates clearly and distinctly how our inner and outer world is connected, what gives us back the power of decision to change our life, recognise and overcome current challenges.
 
Psychology of Vision deals with three main elements of our life:
Relationships, leadership, and non-confessional spirituality. To understand the meaning and the power of relationships is the key to change, since all our problems ultimately are relationship problems. All our relationships reflect the relation to ourselves and at the same time, this one reflects our relationship to God. When we heal our relationships, we can thus heal all other aspects of our life.
Leadership describes our leadership qualities and means to be able to be responsive to those persons who need our help. It is the readiness to help which at the same time serves ourselves. For when we overcome whatever tries to hold us back from helping others, both of us will be freed. Spirituality – dissociated from religion – means natural spiritual feelings and spiritual meaning which every human being, according to their spirit and consciousness, shares with everybody else. The connection between all human beings on one level of consciousness is continued in a relationship to the divine.

Psychology of Vision – a new psychological school of the 21st century

Psychology of Vision is built on the works of the visionaries Freud, Jung, Frankl, and Perls, and takes into account experience from hypnotherapy, gestalt therapy, and NLP. In their therapeutical practice, Chuck and Lency Spezzano have also acquired and won their own insights, models, concepts, methods, and techniques which as a whole form Psychology of Vision.
Basic principles and teachings from „A Course in Miracles“ have confirmed the original approach of Psychology of Vision and at the same time opened new perspectives on further psychological and therapeutical research tasks.
The aim of Psychology of Vision is a holistic transformation which will not only make life worth living, but also adorable! It is a science and an art which enables us to discover all aspects hidden in the subconscious, unconscious resp. the shamanic and in the spiritual consciousness. This special psychology makes it possible to perform consciousness work even more target-oriented, easier, and clearing and healing much quicker.
(Wulfing von Rohr, author and journalist, on Psychology of Vision)“
Emphasis mine

The second text seems to be from PoV:

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What can Psychology of Vision do for us?
1. PoV supports us human beings in overcoming psychological and spiritual obstacles and to develop a personal responsibility.
2. PoV offers a mind map of consciousness as well as the tools necessary for a deep personal change.
3. The PoV model enables persons to create a positive vision of future which includes themselves, their families, and the world.
4. PoV enables an intuition for one's own emotions and creates a connection to our heart which changes the perception of our environment
5. PoV facilitates understanding, solving of conflicts and builds bridges between cultures.
Psychology of Vision also offers the possibility to absolve a 100-Day-Programme. This will teach worldwide professional tools which enable participants to integrate the principles of Psychology of Vision into their own life. Emphasis will be on teaching the fundamental methods and concepts. The founders of the method, Chuck and Lency Spezzano, in person train participants of this programme all over the world to become Psychology of Vision Trainers. Participance in the Trainer's Programme will take place in the sense of a personal invitation. Persons who completed these advanced and profound trainings is authorised to use the title of Psychology of Vision Trainer.
Source for the text and for further infos is the German section of: http://www.psychologyofvision.com/dach/infos.html


Short info on Wulfing von Rohr (from his German Wikipedia article):

"W. von Rohr is a German citizen living in Austria and has been working for the state-owned TV stations as a journalist and producer of documentaries between 1974 and 1994.
At the end of the 1980ies he studied at the University of California [they don't get any more precise as to where and what], and, between 1986 and 1998, lived in Santa Fe/New Mexico. Besides numerous publications in the field of astrology and Newage as an author, editor, translator and counselor, he is also an organiser, moderator, and seminar leader for congresses and conferences on cultural exchange, peace issues, and spirituality, as e.g. the International Peace Conference in Munich 1999, Interreligious Talks Luzern/Switzerland 2000, Peace Days Salzburg (Austria) 2002, Angels' Days Salzburg and Munich 2006, 2007, 2008; The Gathering Conference for Light Workers in Solothurn (Switzerland) 2008, Vital Force Symposions in Zurich (Switzerland) 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011, Aura Basel (Switzerland) 2009 and 2010."


Wikipedia also lists several publications on astrology, Tarot, numerology, and New Age.


Amazon bio:
"Wulfing von Rohr, born 1948, is a researcher of consciousness and culture, an author and co-author of books, seminar leader, translator, and editor. Up to now, he has published more than 90 books as an author or co-author. He makes appearances as a moderator and in part as an organiser of spiritual meetings [as mentioned above]. He was a guest speaker at the Mid-Summer Conference in Colorade in June 2009. He is the moderator at the Vital Force Zurich and at Aura Basel (annual conferences), but also at the „Iron Forum“ (a medical congress) twice in Basel and once in Zurich. In March 2011, he participates in the Conference The Gathering in Sedona, Arizona as the only German-language speaker.

W. v. Rohr has been a TV journalist and producer of TV documentaries for ARD and ZDF [state owned TV stations] for 20 years. He was a board member at the professional organisation of German Yoga teachers (BDY) and contributed to the curriculum for the training of Yoga teachers. He is the founding chief editor in charge of the ANGELmagazine which he directed for two years. He is a member of the International Society of Deep Psychology and participated for more than ten years in their Autumn Conferences in Lindau as a speaker or workshop director. […] His latest project is a weekly internet radio show with German-language and international guests within the framework of „Awakening Zone“. Wulfing von Rohr is seen as the leading adept of the spiritual movements and development in Europe, North America, and parts of Asia."


Additionally, von Rohr has business contacts to Spezzano, as he translated several of Spezzano's books, like e.g. „There must be a better way. Basic Principles of Psychology of Vision“, or „Soul Cards“ (April 2008).

In the acknowledgement section of the German translation of „The Tao Index: Personal Development and Relationship will be co-factors in business success or failure in future“ (February 2009), Spezzano writes:
„The acknowledgements would not be complete without mentioning my German agent Wulfing von Rohr“.
This means von Rohr is or has been more than just a translator of a few books.

Judging from a publication written by von Rohr („Small revelations. Proposals for a conscious life“. October 2009), he says in chapter 7 „There will always be a next step“:
“What I describe as practices to imitate […], I have experienced in a similar form in Chuck Spezzano's „Psychology of Vision“ seminars […].“
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on April 28, 2014, 01:13:42 am
Von Rohr is absolutely right... there always will be a next step in chuck spezzano's psychology of vision. this translates to you will never be "healed" because you will never "get it". the love and happiness he promises is always out of reach because he has his "programming" of you set up so you always have to pay for the next workshop. it's a lose lose situation for you. you have to pay a lot of money not only for his programming of you but for air fares and hotel rooms. all for what is a bogus snake oil programming of your self . chuck spezzano is not a recognised healing model anywhere but in his own organization that amounts to nothing more than a cult taking control over your life.
read and research about  chuck spezzano before you take a chance with your life changing for the worse by joining them. it amounts to nothing more than a real super rotten carrot on a big stick. you're never going to "get it" with this group. chuck spezzano has his group set up so you'll never get it and it's all about chuck spezzano getting your money by having to take more and more of his fake psychologist "teachings". as someone quoted about this group.. don't walk away from this group... Run away from them. I like to add ..spread the word to others about PoV. do not allow or let others fall into their trap..
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 08, 2014, 02:53:07 am
I typed the query Lency Spezzano joining on Google and this brief display was included in the results--

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Lency Spezzano - Chuck and Lency Spezzano's Home Page
www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencySpezzano.htm
Lency is an empath, a mystic and an explorer of divine consciousness. ... Lency is pioneering Psychology of Vision's mystical path through her joining method, ...

This text no longer exists in the main body of the page, but it did at one time. This statement doesn't really inspire the reader to view Lenora Kay Spezzano as a serious professional in the field of mental health.

Then we find a card of the day from Charles Lee Spezzano--

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Oct
24
HEALING THE DEMON METAPHOR

HEALING THE DEMON METAPHOR is the card for today. It reflects self concepts, shadow figures we have inside and demonic possession. Today invite love, Divine Love which brings miracles and Divine Presence in to heal these subconscious and unconscious parts of our mind as they are meant to stop God's Love and grace. But love always comes when it is called and Divine Love and Presence even more so. What is a part of our ego is melted away and the fallen angels are redeemed. Today let these hells within be healed. Have a beautiful day!

Posted 24th October 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Demon Metaphor

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-demon-metaphor.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-demon-metaphor.html)

If people want to promote belief in empaths, demons, angels and mystics that's fine. But they shouldn't expect to be taken seriously as professionals in the field of psychology at the same time, particularly when neither one of the Spezzanos are real licensed psychologists.

It seems very wrong to me in light of how much the paranormal, supernatural, and junk science is embraced by the leaders of this group, not to mention the lack of credentials, that Psychology of Vision is listed under "Psychologists" in the online Honolulu Yellow Pages.

http://www.yellowpagecity.com/US/HI/Honolulu/Psychologists/Page+4/ (http://www.yellowpagecity.com/US/HI/Honolulu/Psychologists/Page+4/)

Too bad the Yellow Pages do not have a category for "Plastic Healers."


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 10, 2014, 03:23:41 am
Awhile back I ran across a forum on MD Junction under the category of Online Support Groups › Rheumatoid Arthritis › Rheumatoid Forums and found this thread from 2012:

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/rheumatoid-arthritis-discussions/general-support/10034024-that-friendthe-one-who-knows-everything (http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/rheumatoid-arthritis-discussions/general-support/10034024-that-friendthe-one-who-knows-everything)

As you can see the contributors are discussing the Charles Lee Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst "Healing Keys/Metaphors" concerning Rheumatoid Arthritis. Since all public access to the metaphors have recently been carefully obliterated from Internet, we don't have a record of exactly what Spezzano/Ticehurst wrote, but we can be pretty sure it involved blaming the victim for the malady. See, that's the scam. Create a sense of guilt, then offer a "cure" to erase it. This is not a SALPOV sideshow, the "healing Keys" are a metaphor itself for the central business philosophy on how this for-profit retail spirituality corporation preys on vulnerable people in a broader way. Of course the "healing key" to cure yourself from this SALPOV disease is to relax, take a deep breath, clear your mind, and walk away to reclaim your life and save your money.

It is interesting and somewhat amusing to see how the Spezzano blame-the-victim view of disease fares when it is presented to real people in the real world  who use critical thinking, particularly if they suffer from the disease Charles would like them to feel guilty about. Here are some sample quotes:

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I'm going to be blunt and say that this is bullshit! All out bullshit!

Having a positive attitude does help, but it doesn't cure. When I had ovarian cancer (10 yrs ago) then had major surgery and chemo, I had a very positive attitude (not sure why). My odds of long term survival was not great, but I thought that my positive outlook would give me a better chance of survival. Ends up, statistically, it makes no difference for survival rates but it does make the journey so much easier. I had people tell me that I did so well because I was positive. I always cautioned them to change that mindset. Basically they were saying that if someone doesn't survive then they must of had a bad attitude? So they were responsible for their deaths? Not so.

So this article and your friend are making you the cause of your illness. Like I said, bullshit!
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The following contribution has provided us with yet another lost disease metaphor that survived the public access purge. We can document this for the record of consumer protection:

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That has to be the most ludicrous drivel I've ever read!!!!!! Here's what they believe about a FRACTURE,for Pete's sake:

A fracture means that the surface of a bone has been broken or cracked.

This shows an area where we are caught in self-attack and judgment of another. Something that was buried at an unconscious level has now come up for healing.

As a result, we have lost a level of confidence or strength; we have experienced a fracture of self, which points to some deeper emotional conflict.

At some level, we have suffered a kind of emotional fracture or heartbreak as a result of this conflict.

The area of our body that has suffered the fracture will give us a significant clue as to our underlying psychological process.


Are you kidding me?!

Amy, if she truly believes these things, I feel bad for her because she's being completely misled.

If I were you , I'd just ignore her because she's ignorant to the realities of life apparently.
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Sounds like someone needs a reality check. She needs to actually live in someone else's shoes for a few days to experience the day to day pain we suffer. May be good whack on the back of the head? Oh were you experiencing negative pain? sorry about that I just needed to relief some of mine so my RA wouldn't act up. Some people. I say move on. Let her have her beliefs, Karma is a %(*^H!
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Imagine that?.....mind over matter when it comes to RA????

Its obvious that your friend has not experienced the pain of RA.

What it means to try to get up off a chair after trying several times to rock your self up, waiting until the coast is clear so that no one notices your struggle.

I know that every time I try to get off a chair, I do think positively, but the pain that is still there, yes, I do eventually get up and stand to walk, with a pain that does not leave.

Another positive experience is how I can waive the car on that wants to let me cross the parking lot because I know that I will not walk quite fast enough and don't want to piss off the driver. Yes, that is certainly positive thinking....

I positively know that if I give myself 4 hours to get ready for work each day, I can make it to work, as I painfully hold my blowdryer and can't dry my hair the right way..or give my self time to pick out clothing with few buttons, so that I can positively put the blouse over my head, which causes great pain in my shoulders.

I am positive that if I bring four pairs of shoes, I will start out with stylish ones, but as the day goes on, I change them frequently as I eventually end up with the orthopedic ones, all after only a few hours at work.

Yes, we can all be positive, but that does not magically cast a cure for RA.....with all do respect, I wish I could magically

ZAP your friend with RA for just a while and see if positive thinking cured her !

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One has to wonder, how did Charles Lee Spezzano arrive at these mystical metaphors? As has been proven throughout this forum, very little about SALPOV is actually original. In spite of their claims of being "cutting edge," "ground breaking," or "paradigm shifting" most of the concepts of this personality cult have been lifted from somewhere else. The "inspiration" for the "Healing Metaphors" is no doubt from the Louise Hay work from 1984, You Can Heal Your Life.


The New York Times had a long article on Hays by Mark Oppenheimer on May 4, 2008, entitled The Queen of the New Age that is worth reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/magazine/04Hay-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/magazine/04Hay-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0)

The reader can get a sense of the wider esoteric culture that SALPOV is attempting to profit from, and just how late and behind the New Age fashion curve the Spezzanos always have been. We also see how rinky-dink the SALPOV extended family of healers and hypnotherapists are when compared to the true big money hucksters. I thought of the SALPOV spinoffs when I read this part--

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WITHOUT THE AIDS EPIDEMIC, Hay House wouldn’t exist. Louise Hay would be another workshop leader taking predominantly middle-class white women on retreats where they recite affirmations, short statements meant to bring a new, desired reality to fruition. (Examples include “I now create a wonderful new job” and “I live in the perfect space.”) There are hundreds of these workshop leaders and authors; their seminars are advertised in New Age publications, on the Internet and on the bulletin boards in health-food stores and at yoga studios. Most of them never become rich. Like the aspiring motivational speaker played by Greg Kinnear in “Little Miss Sunshine,” they work a minor-league circuit, trying to develop a following and maybe land a book deal. AIDS gave Louise Hay a following.

Then I read the following paragraphs, which portray a major weakness in Hay's premise, a weakness repeated by Spezzano and Ticehurst--
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But while Hay may have hedged about whether positive thinking could cure AIDS, in her writings she was adamant that thoughts — not just sexual behavior — could help cause it. “Venereal dis-ease,” Hay writes in “You Can Heal Your Life,” using her eccentric spelling, “is almost always sexual guilt. It comes from a feeling, often subconscious, that it is not right to express ourselves sexually. A carrier with a venereal dis-ease can have many partners, but only those whose mental and physical immune systems are weak will be susceptible to it.” And that mental weakness can be self-loathing, hating one’s looks or just a fear of aging.

In person and in print, Hay mentions these causes only to play them down: “In no way am I trying to create guilt for anyone”; “this is a time for healing, for making whole, not for condemnation.” But she cannot escape her own logic: if our thoughts create our circumstances, then we are always, in the end, to blame. When I asked her if, since people’s thoughts are responsible for their conditions, victims of genocide might be to blame for their own deaths, she said: “I probably wouldn’t say it to them. I don’t go around making people feel bad. That’s not what I’m after.” I pressed harder: Did she believe they are to blame? “Yes, I think there’s a lot of karmic stuff that goes on, past lives.” So, I asked, with a situation like the Holocaust, the victims might have been an unfortunate group of souls who deserved what they got because of their behavior in past lives? “Yes, it can work that way,” Hay said. “But that’s just my opinion.”

As I have pointed out earlier, in extending their blame-the-victim views it is logical to conclude SALPOV must believe FN deserved the abuse it suffered from Anglo invasion because of some guilty thinking. Maybe the SALPOV leadership needs to find themselves a "healing metaphor" and "healing key" for the disease of Manifest Destiny? The Spezzano contact in BC has been anything but a "Cultural Renaissance."
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: educatedindian on May 13, 2014, 01:14:00 am
POV has sent letters to three critics in an attempt to silence and intimidate them and force a public apology. The critics shared the letters with NAFPS mods. They agreed to our commenting upon the letters. I decline to post any of the critics' names, though two of them said it was OK to do so for them.

The letter claims to be from a reputable law firm, but it's nothing like any I've ever seen. Two lawyers consulted by the critics agree, in their words, "It's pure BS" and legally useless. I seriously wonder if a junior employee at the firm sent the document on the company letterhead without the firm's knowledge or approval.

In fact, the form is "signed" by the typed in name of the firm "Donald Sutherland and Associates", followed by simply two big initials, said to be Donald Sutherland's. I highly doubt the firm would send a letter not listing the lawyer allegedly handling the case. The letter also lacks legal language and instead accuses the three critics of defamation simply for having an opinion about POV.

The letter claims the firm has taken over 300 screen shots of posts by the three critics at half a dozen websites including NAFPS. It goes on to try and give a little history lesson in libel law, almost like a junior law clerk wrote it.

Finally the letter was not sent by courier. It's the kind of thing perhaps one person at the firm agreed to do as a courtesy, hoping to bluff someone.

There are also three letters of apology the firm allegedly demands the critics sign within ten days. Those ten days passed four days ago, with no further action. Pretty safe to say those letters and threatened deadline failed.

The three things that POV or the firm claims were libelous are:
That POV harmed Native communities.
That POV people may have used hypnotism.
That people taking part in POV have been harmed.

I don't claim to be an expert in Canadian law, but under US law none of those arguments are even remotely libelous. Clearly people have been harmed by POV, esp NDNs. Funds that could have been used to actually help and heal people have been diverted to POV. Some of the POV people were clearly trained in hypnotism, so to point to the possibility of that being used is not libelous.

That POV would resort to this shows makes them look to be bullies, and desperate ones who just want to shut up critics.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on May 13, 2014, 03:29:43 pm
Regarding hypnosis, it is just not clear among professionals, whether hypnosis is only the whole treatment or if the state of trance severally can be called hypnosis. Trance belongst to hypnosis, it is a part of hypnosis. POV makes people to go consciously or unconsciously in a trance, this can definitely be described as self-hypnosis, a form of hypnosis. This is not a Hypnosis - treatment in the traditional sense , as they are performed in hypnosis therapies. There is a difference and there are various forms of hypnosis treatments.


Did Chuck S. clarify his proffessions? As I know by medicine books there are always a short description about the authors: Age, course of studies, university, educational attainment, working places, ... I wonder, there is nothing what can be retraced in a simple way.
And who is Lency? Nothing is clear.....
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on May 13, 2014, 03:49:06 pm

Did Chuck S. clarify his proffessions? As I know by medicine books there are always a short description about the authors: Age, course of studies, university, educational attainment, working places, ... I wonder, there is nothing what can be retraced in a simple way.
And who is Lency? Nothing is clear.....

I know this thread is long, but the answers to your questions are in there. :) Lency Spezzano is Chuck's wife, she does a hypnosis type act that she calls "joining". Chuck's education has also been researched.  An excellent source of info on the Spezzanos and Psychology of Vision: http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision (http://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on May 13, 2014, 06:25:21 pm
I know Lency is Chucks wife, I know what psiram writes.

But what I try to say is: The education of both is not clearly and obvously mentioned as it should be. Nothing is really obvious, nothing really traceable.
If you look into reference books about medicine and psychology there is a short text about every person who wrote scientific texts, with their officially recognized professional title, their work, etc.. This all must be traceable.

In this way POV presents themselves is not ok.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on May 13, 2014, 07:28:04 pm
Sturmboe, I apologize for misunderstanding, sorry about that.

I agree with you, POV does not present themselves professionally at all, and it is not okay. They attempt to sound scientific and professional, they claim they are doing research, but they behave unethically.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 14, 2014, 01:14:44 am
The 2011 English language Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual has been removed from public view during the last few days. This document has been a rich primary source for researching the inner structure of SALPOV, exposing the organisation as a personality-based cult with a steep hierarchy.

It is still available for those of you who are signed in to this Forum. Merely click on the attachment.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 14, 2014, 12:29:42 pm
Psychology of Vision Trainer Application Process 2015

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trainer-Application-Process-2015.pdf (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trainer-Application-Process-2015.pdf)

Also attached:

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 16, 2014, 03:51:59 pm
"This world is actually a dream, it is an illusion. The same thing is said by quantum physicists."--Lenora Kay Spezzano in "Healing the Great Wars Download"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg&feature=c4-overview
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg&feature=c4-overview)

The SALPOV bullying letter sounds like a purely deceptive and manipulative way to take advantage of Canada's strange law on "defamation." Rather ironic since it is instigated by U.S. citizens, who supposedly cherish free speech. Apparently the Spezzanos believe in the "free speech for me but not for thee" philosophy. We have to remember, the Spezzanos are wealthy Americans. Charles and Lenora wear the blinders of entitlement and their followers enable this condition.

Here is my response to the news of the Spezzano letter-- 

One by one the most self-incriminating SALPOV primary sources have been vanishing from public view in 2014. The Spezzano/Ticehurst Healing Metaphors-- gone. All mention of the Spezzanos' love affair with one of their two "greatest inspirations," Oneness University-- gone. The Trainers Manual-- gone.

As a flipside note, also in 2014 at least one former trainer has been quietly erasing any connection to the cult from their online profiles and résumés. I am betting more will follow. SALPOV is now seen as a damaged product, and justifiably so.

There still exists three primary sources to point to for obvious signs of deception and greed. The egos involved are much too invested to erase these circus exhibitions so I don't expect to see them self-censored very soon.

First, in promoting the 2014 visit of Charles Lee Spezzano to the UK, he has been marketed for several months thusly--

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CHUCK SPEZZANO is one of the world’s leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy.

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)

Of course the entire sentence is a lie. Deception. False advertising. He is not a psychologist and in fact was fined for pretending to be one in a tragic case that resulted in a man's suicide in 2004. Yes, a man died and an online document exists charging both Spezzanos with outright lying and contributing to the distress of this individual--

http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html
 (http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html)

So now Charles Lee Spezzano calls himself a "coach." Only the brainwashed members of his cult would consider him to be a highly respected professional and world figure. He isn't. To the common viewer Mr. Spezzano is a pretty transparent huckster preying on vulnerable people.

Second, the same UK SALPOV website that touts Charles Lee Spezzano's false credentials also has a section where you can have the opportunity to have an hour of personal consultation from this internationally known leading "psychologist"--   

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Chuck Spezzano is available for private coaching sessions while he is in the UK in April and July 2014.

His fee is £700 per hourly session.

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

In North American terms that is over $1000 both in CAD and USD. For an hour. Of his time. Incredible. Shameless. Greeeeedy. What do you suppose the great historical spiritual teachers in history, like the Christ Jesus from Charles Lee Spezzano's Catholic indoctrination for instance, would say about this high-end retail spirituality?

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And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
    —Matthew 21:12–13

Charles Lee Spezzano is a lost man.

When the SALPOV Oneness University purge began, the UK website marched in lockstep with the program and deleted the politically humiliating connection. So it stands to reason the above two UK SALPOV perversions remain online with the approval from Hawaii HQ.

Before I get to the third bullet, let's remember the main points of this post are how SALPOV deceptive and greedy practices are documented by members of their own online cult. I hope you'll recall the now deleted quote from SALPOV indoctrinee Jeremy Marchant--

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"A primary source of emotional intelligence at work‘s EI material is based on Psychology of Vision, as developed by Chuck Spezzano.  This takes a largely mainstream post-Freudian approach [see, for example, Eric Berne, A layman’s guide to psychiatry and psychoanalysis] and elaborates it with extensive borrowings from other sources of which Carl Jung, NLP and transactional analysis are the most obvious.  Chuck’s genius is to keep the complexity but hide it from the client (unless the client is interested in it) so as to provide a powerful transformational approach."

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37086#msg37086 
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37086#msg37086)

Hiding is deceptive. And manipulative. Mr. Transparency goes out the window. Also NLP has sometimes been compared to hypnosis, which brings us to--

And now (drumroll) for the third point-- Lenora Kay Spezzano's low-budget load of corny/campy "joining" YouTubes that has earned a following among students of the bizarre. Now that the Healing Metaphors have been self-censored, the Lenora videos have been elevated to the most current self-destructive SALPOV public product in terms of hurting their attempt to pass as "professionals." 

Lenora Kay Spezzano has posted more than a couple dozen Youtube examples of her "joining" technique. Here is a link to all of them--

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

At one time these Youtubes had several critical comments, but most have been removed. Oddly, Lenora's responses to deleted critical observations remain on many of them, creating a strange impression, like some crazy paranoid bag lady shuffling down the street talking to herself. The Spezzanos really need a professional social media manager if they want to perpetuate their scam with a veneer of professionalism. As it is they just come across as two aging con artists utterly out of touch with modern technology. Rather than engage and take responsibility and defend or discuss connection with Healing Metaphors or Oneness University or other smoking guns to their own hypocrisy they chose to just delete their past. Bad move. Internet remembers.

In her Youtube infomercials, Lenora describes what "downloading" and "joining" entails--

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"Now I want to give you the gift of a healing download. And this download will come through the higher self, through the Holy Spirit, and it will be using my brain to transmit this healing, or correction, of what in Psychology of Vision we call 'The Great Wars.'"

... "So as the download starts to come through, and I can feel it already, you'll start to feel inside of your brain the change in the brain pattern in your neuro-net. So, if you remember from college when you were studying science, the science of the brain, your thought patterns are in there physically through the firing of synapses, so you get a certain pattern of thought again and again, these patterns get really deeply entrenched."

"This is not something that I'm doing. Its something that's organised from a much higher level of our minds, and I'm just being a conduit. Its coming through. And my brain feels the changes that your brain will be feeling. So my brain is transmitting the sort of ironing out of those ruts in your mind ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg&feature=c4-overview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg&feature=c4-overview)

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" ... We are not our body. We are not the body. This is a vehicle. Its a purely neutral thing, if something's going wrong, if lack of health is showing up in us its only to draw our attention to something, its just a communication to us but the body's free from our, from our beliefs and our issues and all of that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg)

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"So the download will address the beliefs that you have that show up in your neuro-net as a frame pattern that limits you. So we're going to erase the limiting pattern and replace it with the truth that, you know, you're God's child, you have a rich Father ..."

At one point in this segment Lenora apparently feels the forces of "downloading" impatiently bearing down and admits she is performing these "joining" sessions as a form of marketing. But who is "They"?--

"So, you can probably feel the ... they don't wait. They don't understand show business. It's just already started."

... "So, just surrender your mind, and be willing to have that thought change."

... "Look into my right eye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)

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"This download will remove the belief that you should feel shame. It will remove the pattern, the habitual ingrained pattern in your neuro-net, the firing of the synapses that habitually take you and lead you into shame. It'll remove that and replace it with the understanding that you're innocent ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys)

In the "Healing the Dark Night of the Soul Download" the multiple role of director/actor/scriptwriter played by Lenora is very obvious since nothing seems to be working right. Apparently the subject isn't responding, so in an effort to stall for time Lenora tells the audience, "Wait. The intensity. You're feeling this, right? In your brain. Wow. I can hear the bones in my head cracking ..." She can be heard directing the audio crew, "If you guys can tee up the 'Bliss Music' and keep going through and start over again if you need to." At one point she even consults the triangle Charles Lee Spezzano lifted from Bob Trask (that amusing chapter of Charles' past needs more exposure, I think) and says, "Dark Night of the Soul. Where is it on the triangle?" More than others, this Youtube exposes the stage management of these presentations. And the word "stage" will become a key point here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8)

The quintessential Youtube by Lenora is the "Greater Intimacy with God Download." If there ever was evidence she is using hypnosis, this video is it. Watch her hands carefully at 1:40-1:45. Jordan's responses, including basically freaking out at one point, pretty much tell the story. This is also the video where Lenora goes into a very strange sort of spin that is not seen on the other presentations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

Another strong entry for the hypnosis argument comes from the "Freedom from Judging the Ego Download" as you watch Lenora bringing the client down from the trance starting at 12:55. This Youtube is a particularly sadistic entry in Lenora's demonstrations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY)

Hypnosis and Psychology of Vision have a strong bond. Charles Lee Spezzano tells us he was trained in hypnosis in this Youtube, Change Your Mind Change Your Heart   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6)

He also used to include hypnotherapy as a skill on his LinkedIn (see attachments, which originally were discovered by Grifters Hotel). He endorsed hypnosis when he wrote a positive review in 2006 for a work by German SALPOV cult member Peter Reiter (who died in 2013)--

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"This book presents a very easy way to change yourself to be more of your true self. It also allows you to help others to change. This is what the future holds – friends helping friends. And having fun while doing it. Because what you are about to learn is fun, easy and effective. It is intriguing because you are unraveling the mystery of yourself. It is fun because it can be done in your bedroom or study by yourself, with a friend in a café or with a group at a party. It is entertaining and educational. It is easy because it can be done by you with a simple understanding of what is presented in the book. And finally, it is effective as it uses the principle that is central to hypnosis to bring about change: by assigning meaning to a symbol and changing the symbol, you effect change in what is symbolized."

https://web.archive.org/web/20130207162635/http://www.seelenhaus-methode.de/zur-methode/empfehlung-dr-spezzano (https://web.archive.org/web/20130207162635/http://www.seelenhaus-methode.de/zur-methode/empfehlung-dr-spezzano)

In addition, a simple Google search will reveal many of the SALPOV followers have gone on to careers that include the use of hypnosis and hypnotherapy. Hypnosis is in the DNA of SALPOV. In one of her Youtubes, Lenora calls her husband the "King of the downloads." This bridge strengthens the download/hypnosis connection.

Earlier on this thread Piff found an interesting comment by Victoria Buffalo Robe dated Jan. 4, 2012 on the Facebook site for the short-lived Psychology of Vision Joining Series. The series was advertised like this--

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Psychology of Vision Joining Series

A Joining series to explore our inner worlds

“Pain and suffering are washed away by
love: This happens with empathic joining
between two or more people. By transcending
personal barriers we can become one with
others and experience the higher states of
consciousness in which pain can no longer
exist.”

~ Psychology of Visions Core Principal #11

Join us for a series like no other.

With alternating POV Guest Trainers This series will count
towards Days in the "100 day" Psychology of Vision Program.

Melissa Meyer Feb 1st and Feb 15th

Susan How March 7th and April 18th

Charles Campbell March 21st

Victoria Buffalo Robe April 4th

1530 Adanac st. Buzz 403

7pm-9pm

By Donation
(Suggested $20)

“If grass can grow through cement, Love can find you at
every time in your life” ~ Cher

For more information or to register, please RSVP
Victoria Buffalo Robe at 604 505-8867

And in the comments Victoria made this thought provoking comment--

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Joining is an emotional healing exercise used for thousands of years in our human history. The Yogi's call it Gazing, in Psychology of Vision it is a very integral part of healing through love, and becoming emotionally mature.

This gazing technique has a name: Trataka.

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Trataka plays an important role in yoga. Parvati practised shambhavi mudra, which forms an integral part if inner trataka. Trataka is practised even in hypnotism. The eyes possess the power to act as a reservoir of energy as well as a transmitter. Through the medium of the eyes, we are able to express many things. We are able to express sorrow, joy, anger, displeasure, cheerfulness, malice, etc. Through trataka we can acquire great power.

http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2005/cmar05/tratak.shtml (http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2005/cmar05/tratak.shtml)

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Inner Tratak:- It involves gazing continuously at mental picture or an object or concentrating our mind at any of the seven chakra ( in beginning we concentrate on Agnya chakra, the point slightly above and between two eyebrows). With regular practice we try to visualize an object of our interest and the same picture is then retended in mind for long time as per our strength and capacity. When we are able to retain a particular thought for about an hour then we should try to elongate the time duration of our practice with great care. Remember, visualization has tremendous power. When we advance in the practice of inner Tratak then, we can hold a single thought for a long time and the visualization of mind crystalizes and finally manifests in our real life. We can attract health, wealth, prosperity, respect and much more in our daily life by using visualization technique.
Advantages- It helps in building confidence, gaining strong will power and intelligence, improves co centration and the power of visualization. When we advance in the practice, we can establish contact with our spirit guide and seek their help. We develop power to hypnotise anyone.

http://thedivinepowerwithinyou.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-wonders-of-tratak.html (http://thedivinepowerwithinyou.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-wonders-of-tratak.html)

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TRATAK – A sure gateway to develop psychic powers

Tratak Sadhna is one of the best simple and super most technique among all to achieve various powers & siddhies. Tratak is the practice of staring or gazing at an external object. It was a method of meditation that involves concentrating on a single point such as a small object, black dot or candle flame. It is often used in yoga as a way of developing concentration, strengthening the eyes and stimulating the Brow (agya) Chakra. Tratak is sadhna for mind control & awakening. Tratak is considered to be helpful in developing psychic powers. For all those wishing to tread on the path of Sadhna and excel in the fields f hypnosis, magic and attain higher spiritual powers. Tratak is considered an extremely powerful spiritual exercise. However, attempting it without proper assistance under the guidance of a trained teacher or guru can be dangerous.

Amazing Benefits of Tratak

Develop Focused Concentration Power: Strong projection of Intention. Enter into relaxed peaceful and meditative state; free from restlessness & wandering thoughts.

Develop Hypnotic Eye:

    To influence the people.
    To control the person in your positive favour.
    To calm down negative reactions.
    To Hypnotise & induce trance level.
    No body will dare to look into your eyes.

Develop Psychokinesis: Move any object through your focused mind, eye and hand energy.

Develop Inner Vision: Clairvoyance, clair audience, clair sentient. Acquire the higher state of consciousness.

Seek Remedies: Guidance in the form of psychic visions, symbols, feelings & colour visions.

Go to Past Life: See future visions, travel astral – communicate with divine masters, angels, guides & spirits.

Programme Your Subconscious Mind: Tratak is the best technique to influence subconscious effectively. Programme your subconscious mind to change your habits, weakness. Personality, to achieve your dreams & goals.
Source : By: Dr. N. K. Sharma

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/meditation/tratak-a-sure-gateway-to-develop-psychic-powers?track=cntshrd (http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/meditation/tratak-a-sure-gateway-to-develop-psychic-powers?track=cntshrd)

As you can see the eye gazing technique seems to be interpreted several ways. Rev. Dr. Brian David Phillips has a very interesting post exploring this topic--

http://briandavidphillips.net/2012/12/31/hypnoticstare/ (http://briandavidphillips.net/2012/12/31/hypnoticstare/)

I understand Lenora Kay Spezzano is upset that her "downloading/joining" video performances have not been hailed as examples celebrating her role as the earthly conduit between astral forces and humankind, but instead has been categorized as "stage hypnotism."

So, let us look at the evidence. On this forum we have established without a doubt the SALPOV machine has no problem with being deceptive in how it presents itself. We have established they manipulate vulnerable, wounded, and fragile people. We have established, thanks to the German trainers manual, how they   targeted FN in a very strategic way. We have established SALPOV is a steep hierarchy and profit-driven corporation where only the top two executives have any real power as they exploit the labor of their too-trusting minions. We have established SALPOV is not respected by several other spiritual healers. We have established SALPOV is not respected by the American Cancer Society. We have established Charles Lee Spezzano is so insignificant even among New Age healers that he does not warrant an entry in Wikipedia. And we have established the SALPOV presence on Haida Gwaii has not only brought pain and suffering, but also those on that island who continue to serve the Spezzanos are selling out their own culture and don't appear to have any qualms about doing so.

And now for my opinion about Lenora's Youtubes, which I am free to have as a human walking between Earth and the sky. From my perspective Lenora is not acting as a conduit for anything except for the transfer of her gullible client's cash to her bank account.

Part of the definition of "Stage Hypnosis" includes that it is performed before an audience and usually has a shill in the group. In Lenora's case the entire room was filled with shills. Lenora herself called the videotaped effort "show business" and the hokey music only strengthens the view that this is a theatre production, not real healing in progress. It is all staged.

There is a very strong argument for defining her Youtubes as an example of stage hypnosis, particularly with her constant pointing to her right eye in many of the vids and how she can instantly turn on a dime and go in and out of her faux-trance expression as she orders stage directions to her crew. Now that the "Healing Metaphors" have been purged from public view, these "downloading" videos are the foremost new public access Achilles Heel for Psychology of Vision. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on May 25, 2014, 07:24:56 pm
Lency now has this site up: The Truth about Chuck and Lency Spezzano http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 26, 2014, 03:18:00 pm
Excerpt from Psych Web, Hypnotic Induction Techniques, Direct Gaze Method

http://www.psywww.com/asc/hyp/art/ind08.html (http://www.psywww.com/asc/hyp/art/ind08.html)

Emphasis is mine:

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Direct Gaze Method
This process is the Direct Gaze Induction Technique. This is the most powerful technique of all, and also the most difficult to use because you have to express perfect confidence. If you have any doubt, hesitation, or fear, it will show in your eyes; the subject will read it and it will inhibit their response.

If the subject is standing, you say to them, "All right, I want you to fix your eyes right here." Take the index finger of your right hand and bring it up under your right eye. If they're seated, or lying down on their back, say exactly the same thing.

When you're looking the subject in the eye, it is important for you not to blink. Narrow your eyes slightly, enough to keep your eyeballs from drying out. Time your counting in response to what you see happening in the subject's eyes. If you don't see any response, stretch out the suggestions. (ex. Five -- eyelids heavy, droopy, drowsy and sleepy, your eyelids feel so heavy. Four -- your heavy lids begin to feel as though they're getting ready to close. Three -- the very next time ....) The moment you see the subject beginning to blink, pick up the tempo and say 'And now they begin closing, closing ...'

Spoken to the subject

Now I want you to look right here. Don't take your eyes from mine. Don't move or speak or nod your head or say "uh-huh" unless I ask you to. I know that you hear and understand me just as you know it. If you follow my simple instructions, there is nothing in this world that can keep you from entering into a very deep and pleasant state of hypnosis, and doing it in just a fraction of a second. Now, take a deep breath and fill up your lungs. (Take a deep breath and take your right hand and move it in an upward motion in the air). Now exhale. (Bring hand down as they exhale) That's fine. Now a second and deeper breath. (Bring hand up) Exhale. (Bring hand down) Relax. Now a third deep breath. (Bring hand up) Exhale. (Bring hand down)

(Note: The following sections are for performing therapy)

(Raise your hand up over their head, about three feet in front of them, two feet above their head, pointing finger) And now, I'm going to count from five down to one. As I do, your eyelids grow heavy, droopy, drowsy and sleepy. By the time I reach the count of one, they close right down and you go deep in hypnotic slumber. Deeper than ever before. All right, Five (Start moving finger down) -- Eyelids heavy, droopy, drowsy and sleepy. Four (Moving finger down) -- Those heavy lids feel ready to close. Three (Moving finger down) -- The next time you blink that is hypnosis coming on you then. Two (Moving finger down) -- They begin closing, closing, closing, closing, closing, closing, closing, closing them, close them, close them.

They're closing, closing, closing, closing .. One

(Place right hand behind subjects head at base of skull. Grasp subjects left arm at elbow. With a sudden forward pulling movement of the right hand, say) Sleep now.

(Use a deepening technique and test subject)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on May 26, 2014, 05:01:05 pm
Lency now has this site up: The Truth about Chuck and Lency Spezzano http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)


Elucidation is something different than this, what L.S. writes. To me it seems like a bound of counter attacks by the assaults of other critics - but nothing is really clearified in important aspects and critics I had expected.

Quote: "It is not for everybody because not everyone wants to get in touch with their repressed pain so that it can be released and healed."
In this one sentence I criticize that is not the point "that not everyone wants to get in touch..." Fact is, not everybody is stabilized enough that he is able to stand by the confrontation with his pain. To force someone in contact with his problems, when he is not stabilized could be dangerous.

As the pain surfaces, it opens up the issue to be healed, washing out the pain and suffering, until only the joy of the experience of Oneness with God remains. It is a universal experience. With a little practice, as each person is relating to the other, it’s possible to read his or her painful life process like a book, recognizing we are the same and we are all connected.

Quote: "Life’s pain and suffering just waits until the conscious mind is willing to register and acknowledge its existence."
Not correct. Sometimes pain breaks through the surface and a person reacted as he never wanted to do this, cannot understand, what happened. To often the acknowledge comes in hard work.
"Once it has, the pain not only releases, it becomes the basis for strength, maturity and wisdom. Suffering is just the raw material for our growth; for most people, they have already done the hardest part of their lives – all that is left is to process the raw material so that it can be “smelted” with awareness, and the end product is gold." There are people who are growing "wiser", but this is often hard work they decided to go this way, radical acceptance

"People who have not only survived a crisis, but have integrated the process emotionally, generally do not wish that the crisis had never occurred." Puh, what a sentence. What is about those people who had hard life - experiences, and they are asking: Make this away, make it, as this never had happened to me" (for e.g. sexual abuse) They can learn to live with their experiences, but often there is no "do not wish that the crisis had never occurred, because they are glad to be the human being that transformed through the process. Joining reaps the benefits of our tough life experiences." Is there really a transforming process? If people talk about their bad life experiences, their own words hurt, there is an experience ... even they know those words will help other to know "you are not alone". But these words hurt, realising an experience, this not gone, not away.

It would be ok, if POV would present their psychological training with a lot of other psychologists and psychotherapists in symposia, discussing about its contains, what must be changed, what is good. There may be some good aspects, but POV on their own cannot particularize it. Psychological therapies are constantly changing in an international or national exchange, multidisciplinary. And another case here: supervisors should coming from outside, and noone from POV.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 27, 2014, 02:16:13 am
With Lenora Kay Spezzano's announcement that she will no longer be making international visits after 2014, it would stand to reason that she might be going more into the webinar route. She has an existing webinar series that appears to be about two or three years old.

www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyWebinar.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyWebinar.htm)

These webinars are presented in graduated steps and in viewing the summaries one can see why Lenora is so defensive about her "professional" standing and why she is so very insecure about the charge that "downloading/joining" is anything other than what she claims it is. Her "look in my right eye" technique is at the foundation of a very expensive set of webinars.

If her Youtube "joining" videos are any indication of how that practice is supposed to work, they raise a number of very legitimate observations and questions a reasonable person would pose regarding hypnosis, harm done to the client, and Lenora's "scientific" definition of how the process works. Any critical mind should be able to express these views without fear of being accused of defamation, libel, or slander. To legally threaten people for questioning the validity of "joining" is simply bullying, cyber or otherwise. It reveals a defensive intolerance for criticism and is another point in favor of the charge that Psychology of Vision behaves like a cult. Here's a link to the Youtubes. I find them fascinating, but probably not for reasons Lenora would prefer--

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

Here's the first part of the series--

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Enlightenment & Beyond

Lency Webinar Series

In this 8 session Webinar series, Lency Spezzano will take you all the way through the introductory level of her work to the most cutting edge, groundbreaking level of inducing enlightenment. The Enlightenment & Beyond -Webinar Series is divided into two levels, Level 1 & Level 2. They can be taken one at a time or together.

In Level 1 of this Webinar, Lency will introduce her Theory of Everything, teach her "Joining" Method for releasing unconscious pain, and take participants through healing their major prenatal, birth and childhood issues.

In Level 2 of the Webinar, Lency will lay the foundation for "Enlightenment" and take participants through the self-annihilation process that slays the ego. In the final session she will give the energetic "downloads" for enlightenment and other steps on the way to God Realization and Oneness.

Each of the 8 sessions is an hour and a half to two hours long.
For more information about the series, please contact Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

TUITION:

Enlightenment & Beyond-Level 1 "Joining" ($200 USD)

Enlightenment & Beyond-Level 2 "Enlightenment" ($200 USD)

Enlightenment & Beyond-Level 1 & 2 ($400 USD)

PLEASE NOTE:

By registering for the Ascension Webinar series, I agree to keep the recordings that I access or receive confidential, and will not share them with, or show them to any other persons.

TO PURCHASE:

To purchase recordings of the Enlightenment & Beyond Webinar series, please complete this secure online form:

Click Here to Purchase Enlightenment & Beyond

We will process your payment and provide access to a Private Page on Chuck and Lency's website where you can view the Enlightenment & Beyond Webinar Series from your computer.

For more information or assistance, please email the Hawaii Office at Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com or call 1-808-239-4502 during normal Hawaii business hours. Thank you! =)

Lenora also has a Youtube preview of Enlightment & Beyond--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTpkQ6R4oQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTpkQ6R4oQ)

Part two--

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Ascension

Through Life-Theme Resolution

Lency Webinar Series

In the Ascension webinar series, Lency Spezzano will be sharing her perspective of what is going on for us personally and collectively in this very important vibrational process here on planet Earth, and delivering her cutting edge healing work.

Lency has recently made huge breakthroughs in identifying and resolving the great life theme issue that we now have the unprecedented opportunity to complete. It is a very important moment in human history. Those of us who are doing this work are pioneers who have chosen to clear our personal unconscious minds ahead of the collective in order to usher in the collective dimensional shifts that are available for the first time in history.

Lency will assist us in resolving the life-theme issues that are presently with us as well as vibrating within us from other incarnations, in order to shift our awareness to accelerating levels of reality, and guide us into the experience of harnessing its potential. It is an exciting time to be alive!

Each of the 4 sessions is an hour and a half to two hours long.
For more information about the series, please contact Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

PRE-REQUISITE:

This is an advanced level course that is only open to people who have worked with Lency in 2011 or 2012 in a 5 day or 10 day program or have completed her Enlightenment Webinar Series. It will only be available in English.

TUITION:

Tuition is $200 USD ...

Lenora also has a Youtube preview of Ascension Through Life-Theme Resolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8P-QS9ZWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8P-QS9ZWw)

Part three--

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Life in the 5th Dimension

Lency Webinar Series


Note from Lency:

"Hi guys! Huge breakthroughs have been happening in my seminars - actually pulling people out of the 3rd and 4th dimensional grid systems to energetically experience life in 5 D - my best strategy for bringing light to the collective. There is wonderful feedback! [See right hand column.]

"I will offer another webinar series titled Life in the 5th Dimension as preparation for leading the way in the planetary birth the last 11 days of 2012.

"If you are interested, but haven't done the prerequisite training, the earlier webinars are offered as recordings (for beginners, a total of 12 two hour sessions), and the new ones will be available also. For information or registration please email our Hawaii Office at Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com."

xxxxxxL

Each of the 4 sessions is an hour and a half to two hours long. For more information about the series, please contact Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

PRE-REQUISITE:

This is an advanced level course that is only open to people who have completed both:

-"Joining" and "Self annihilation/Enlightenment" work (available through Enlightenment & Beyond or completed with Lency in 2011 or 2012 in a 5 day or 10 day program)

-"life-theme resolution work" (available through Asension: Through Life-Theme Resolution)

It will only be available in English. Apologies to non-English speakers.

TUITION:

$200 USD ...

Part four--

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God Is

Lency Webinar Series


The "God Is" webinar will utilize Lency's latest healing technique called Flying. Flying is different from previous healing techniques in that flying starts with the miracle.  From the blissful state of the miracle, emotions can be bailed and tremendous healing can be accomplished-all from a state of "flying in the miracle."

Flying with Lency:

My first Flight with Lency was so impressive that it took me a long time for the return and the landing.

I was in a Space of total Love and I was Fearless. Only Light and a very high Energy. No judgement only Joy and Happiness. This new awareness followed on many more small flights whith Lency and after that I learned to make small flights by myself into this very high conciousness called 5th Dimension. This is a beginning of a journey into En..light..ment. I am so grateful for this experience, because being a Spiritual Warrior who seeks only for the Truth this is the place to get connected.

This is the Dimension where we come from and where we long to come back to!

It is possible to realize this now and here on this earth and where we are living now in the 3d Dimension. Thank you for this experience, Lency.

xxxxLove you.
L.G.


Each of the 4 sessions is about an hour and a half to two hours long. For more information about the series, please contact Hawaii@chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

PRE-REQUISITE:

This is an advanced level course that is only open to people who have completed:

-"Joining" and "Self annihilation/Enlightenment" work (available through Enlightenment & Beyond or completed with Lency in 2011 or 2012 in a 5 day or 10 day program)

-"life-theme resolution work" (available through Asension: Through Life-Theme Resolution or completed with Lency in 2013 in a 5 day or 10 day program)

-"5th dimension" work (available through Life in the 5th Dimension)

It will only be available in English. Apologies to non-English speakers.

TUITION:

$200 USD ...

Grand total fee for the entire series, $1000. This is quite a deal considering Charles Lee Spezzano charges more than that for an hour of his time for personal consultations.

I like Sturmboe's idea of having the Spezzanos present something like this webinar series to a conference of real professional psychologists. Oh man, wouldn't that be fun to watch?



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on May 27, 2014, 07:40:52 pm
From Lency's web site on a page titled "Sillier Stuff" http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/sillier-stuff/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/sillier-stuff/)

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Are Chuck And Lency Connected with The Inner Healing Movement?  No.

Yet in the minutes of a neighborhood board meeting in 2003:

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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP), WAIHEE PLACE –Peggy Chang and Consultant Geoffery Paterson representing Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano presented the following:

1) Spezzano and Associates is applying for a Conditional Use Permit Minor, to permit a meeting facility on their property located at Kaneohe, Hawaii 96744, which is the permanent home of Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano.
...
3) The existing barn is currently used as the headquarters for their worldwide networking in the field of Inner Healing.

http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm (http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm)

Maybe the Spezzanos would argue that their own reps didn't know what they were talking about? Although "worldwide networking in the field of Inner Healing" sounds pretty specific and purposeful to me.

Also on the new site:

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Of the thousands of First Nations people that we have served in those pro bono seminars (a large percentage of whom were residential school survivors), Chuck and I have never received feedback that suggested we hurt anyone.

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/are-the-spezzanos-targeting-first-nations-or-other-indigenous-peoples-metis-inuit-or-native-americans-for-financial-gain/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/are-the-spezzanos-targeting-first-nations-or-other-indigenous-peoples-metis-inuit-or-native-americans-for-financial-gain/)

Apparently the Spezzanos have not watched this yet: http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/12/plastic-healers/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/12/plastic-healers/) Part of this video involves the Spezzanos, several people state that POV is irresponsible and unsafe.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 28, 2014, 03:48:10 am
Hi Piff. Just today this was posted on Internet in German:

http://krisenbegleiter.wordpress.com/tag/chuck-spezzano/ (http://krisenbegleiter.wordpress.com/tag/chuck-spezzano/)

Google English translation:

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Book Recommendation: Chuck Spezzano - awaken the inner healing powers

May 27, 2014 Leave a comment

Behind our illnesses, relationship and life problems very often stuck unconscious and subconscious life patterns. This can be seen in all its depth and resolve to lead a healthy and fulfilling life, to which loads the new book by Chuck Spezzano a. The special feature of this new masterpiece is here that the reader insights, methods and techniques find that originate from Spezzanos immediate, over 35 years of therapeutic work. This book provides vivid knowledge and vital wisdom with very practical methods and exercises. A wholesome counselor and wise companion on the journey to the self, to better health, happiness and joy of life.

SBN: 978-3-86616-259-4 256 pages
Hardcover
1st Edition
Price: 19,95 EUR

Filed under News Tagged with Chuck Spezzano , healing powers

To say POV is not part of the Inner Healing Movement, one would expect Lenora means in a narrow sense the organisation based on the philosophy of Agnes Sanford. So they can be involved in the field of inner healing without being part of the Inner Healing Movement, see? Just like they can call their corporation "Psychology of Vision" without being psychologists. Or constantly use the terms "Oneness Blessing," "Deeksha," and "Oneness" after condemning Oneness University, where they attended and gained much of their current theological terminology, one of their "two greatest inspirations" in fact.

The Spezzanos are real masters at lifting terms and repackaging the ideas of others that don't really belong to them and then become offended when the original connections are pointed out.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on May 29, 2014, 07:31:38 am

Quote: "That Chuck and I have falsified our educational background information; ...; that we damage vulnerable people in our seminars in assorted terrible ways; "

Well Chuck Spezzona is a psychologist, he got the right to carry this title with his name. Why he does not do this in the most of his books, I don´t know. Does he fear the reactions of his colleague? His books are no medical books, they are guidebooks, medical guidbooks - but guidebooks. And also psychlogists can work not in a correct way, a graduation is not a guarantee for a good educated work.

People can be damaged in seminars, this is always possible. Maybe Spezzona can regignize this, maybe not.


Quote "So, to return to the videos, which focus on one form of joining, the reason I ask for that assistance is because I, like most people, am “right eyed” in the same way that I, like most people, am right handed. So, if the person looks into my left eye, which is not my dominant eye, we aren’t really looking straight at each other."
Do we need a dominant eye to starre effectley at someone? Just the presence of a person in a room can make you feel growing stiff. There are other aspects too: To be freezed for your inner heavy wish to reach something, if you don´t reach it, you are disappointed, ... don´t know, if you can stand this by anylonger, ...

Quote: "With both of the other person’s eyes looking into my right eye, I can look back into their left eye, the “window of the soul, to see their pain; this is physically evident in the pupil of the eye, which takes a different aperture according to what the person is feeling."
The reaction of a pupil depends on many factors, to reduce this to a simple feeling of the soul is bullshit, this is not  physically evident. To feel what another person feels is possible, but you must be clearly on youself, that this feeling is maybe your own feeling, maybe it is this, what someone really feels. You can work with this, but this is a tightrope walk to accept the limit / boundery of the other person and not to cross. POV cross the limit, this is that what I see in their videos, for me on my own this is not acceptable.

Quote: "As the pain surfaces, it opens up the issue to be healed, washing out the pain and suffering, until only the joy of the experience of Oneness with God remains. It is a universal experience."
Not every pain which is coming up is ready for heal. This is false, for some people dangerous if they decompensate.

Quote: "With a little practice, as each person is relating to the other, it’s possible to read his or her painful life process like a book, recognizing we are the same and we are all connected."
It is really ok, to read in someone like in an open book? To person who are vulnerable, not protected? To look straight in someones eyes could let a person freezing and he is not more able to react autonomically, unable to change on his own the situation he wants to flight off. And it is not a little practice to understand a person in a psychologically way.

Quote "Life’s pain and suffering just waits until the conscious mind is willing to register and acknowledge its existence."
Bullshit, not every person can say on his own, if he is strong and stabilized enough to stand by his inner feeling of the life - experiences he had in his life. Sometimes it is better, somone tells this vulnerable person, not to go further to his conscious or subconscious. Not everybody can controll what is coming up. It is not ok to be in this way dependent from Spezzona.

Quote "Chuck has never claimed that he can cure any illness, and would never discourage anyone from seeking medical treatment."
Well, but Chuck S. said in his video, all deseases can be healed, also Aids, cancer, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc
This is false.

Quote: "The bloggers claim that us looking at the metaphors of illness with people (similar to Louise Hay’s work) is actually us blaming them for having their symptoms. This, of course, would have no value for the client – blaming a person for their illness is completely counterproductive to their healing and wellbeing. Taking accountability, on the other hand, gives the client power in their life."
Blaming is one way POV uses, in their keys of healing they are written. Well, I know some of them as old tradition sentences. There are phases people with deseases, like cancer look for their guilt, "because  an innocent person couldn´t get this illness, ..." and POV ditch in this cavity. And POV use a transforming from physical issues into psychological issues. You cannot transform it, but they are a way to look  for something forgotten or lokk for different ways to understand people with mental issues better, but they never claimed up to a diagnosis.

Spezzona fend off that they harm people, if they had done this, they have would known this by response.
As educated in psychology they should know very well, that harmed people maybe don ´t tell them, what POV have done. If this people were asked, if something is wrong, they smile at you, tell you brightly "Oh no, it is all ok. You are great." What should they tell, when they don´t find in their inner the words about what is going on in their inner? And maybe ist is better to keep silence. Or maybe they are fading out, there is something going wrong, because this could not be, .... And some reactions are coming late, so late, that these people have no more a connection to POV in their mind.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 30, 2014, 01:22:03 am
In the 2010 Can AIDS Be Healed Youtube, as Sturmboe says, Charles Lee Spezzano does indeed give the impression he can cure and/or heal cancer, AIDS, and Myasthenia gravis. The victims are to blame, of course. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlx4hkT8OTc)

Here are some selected quotes:

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I've worked with a number of things where there was supposedly incurable cancers, I've worked twice with AIDS where it went down to HIV and in one case completely disappeared, where the people became naturally healthy again. I've worked with Myasthenia gravis where it is supposedly incurable and that was cured.

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Basically an illness is a conflict in the mind, conflict in relationships that has been displaced on to the body ... We take out on our bodies what is subconscious in our minds.

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Some of the research around cancer at six to eighteen months before the onset of cancer there's been a significant trauma with someone close to them.

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Just recently worked with someone, I did the last session this morning where we had thirteen sessions together, and their AIDS went to HIV and completely disappeared.

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I got started with this because a good friend of mine who was in her late sixties when I was a young man, she had this inoperable cancer. She had a tumour as big as a rugby ball. And in one healing exercise in a workshop it went from the size of a rugby to the size of a softball.

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There's no problem, physically or any kind of problem that doesn't come from some form of guilt.

On the APTN Investigates exposé of SALPOV last November, Charles in a phone interview made the following somewhat disingenuous statement to journalist Rob Smith--

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/12/plastic-healers/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/12/plastic-healers/)

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I don't make the statement that I heal cancer, people heal themselves or they don't heal themselves.

We also see Spezzano's old Catholic guilt trip coming to the surface again, which is also a major component of the blame-the-victim Healing Metaphors, by Spezzano with co-author Janie Patrick/Ticehurst.

Here is their take on AIDS--

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AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome)

This disease means our body has lost its ability to fight off infection. Infection by the HIV virus has caused serious damage to our immune system.

Normally our immune systems produce antibodies to fight off foreign agents but, because we have a poorly functioning immune system, ‘opportunistic infections’ take advantage and infect the body.

The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.

At some level, we experience an inability to receive or give help. We are caught in a trap of indulgence, martyrdom or rebellion, rather than leadership.

The martyrdom takes the form of not receiving help and at the same time criticizing parents, family and society’s ability to give.

Yet, we are ignoring our vocation, refusing to heed the call to giving, to leadership, purpose, vision and not allowing ourselves to have all the help and comfort we crave.

Suggested Exercises:
Purpose
Forgiveness

And here is their take on cancer--

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Cancer

Cancer involves the transformation of healthy functioning cells into malignant, or harmful, cells. The altered cells transfer faulty information to their offspring, and the cancerous cells grow in an abnormal and destructive way.

Cancer is the embodiment of self-directed anger. It reflects a place of guilt and self-attack.

A traumatic situation with a significant other will have taken place between six and eighteen months before the onset of the cancer.

At some level, it is an attack on another through self-harm. It highlights that we have a need to give that has gone wild, or is completely misplaced, in addition to a fear of our purpose.

Cancer reflects a fear of the next chapter in our life and a fear of major or radical change for the better.

Tumors encapsulate our repressed anger, malice and conflicting, hidden belief systems.

We are trying to shelter our pain or disappointment and are attempting to hold back negative self-beliefs and evil self-concepts. These mistaken beliefs and self-concepts stem from unresolved emotional fractures and broken hearts.

We can get more information about our particular cancer by cross-referencing the information in this section with the body part affected.

For example, if we have cancer of the stomach then we know that our anger is also about our ability to accept, integrate, receive and be nurtured. It may also reflect aspects of introjection, (swallowing others emotional pain).

Suggested Healing Keys:
Purpose
Truth

As pointed out earlier on this forum, the American Cancer Society weighed in on the Spezzano/Ticehurst view of cancer, and I am sure they would say the same thing about the above Youtube.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)

Here is part of what the ACS said--

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As you may know, researchers have done many studies to see if there is a link between personality, stress, and cancer. No scientific evidence has shown that a person’s personality or outlook can affect their cancer risk. This information can be found at the link below:

> Questions People Ask About Cancer:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/questions-people-ask-about-cancer

The Society often reaches out to organizations when we see something we think is not right, not fair, or not productive to the fight against cancer; however, we cannot do this in every case. That's why we rely on people like you, our supporters, to help us.

Your words can mean more than you might think. As a volunteer organization, we know well the power of the public to change the course of cancer. Therefore, we encourage you to personally contact those who give platforms to Chuck Spezzano and others when you want to express your opinion. Together, we can make a difference.

If physical healing is among the products being marketed by the retail spirituality corporation of SALPOV, I think they need to hire a professional public relations person, because they are sending out mixed messages. As it is their merchandise is filled with flaws.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 31, 2014, 06:26:47 pm
Today I found another bit of Oneness University evidence the Spezzanos neglected to erase online when they tried to rewrite their own history a few months ago and pretend the place was never one of their two greatest inspirations. This small data tidbit acted as a lever to enable me to go on a ramble afield through the mire of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV). So here goes.

You'll notice in Lenora Kay Spezzano's The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision she is very vague about the SALPOV broken love affair with OU. No dates are given, no particulars, no specifics on what the "number of reasons" were--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/
 (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

"Felt true to me." What does that mean? To say there is no relationship between SALPOV and OU is simply not true. This is yet another Lenora whitewash, to put it politely. Until early this year, Oneness University was still touted on SALPOV websites as one their two greatest inspirations and listed on Charles Lee Spezzano's LinkedIn profile. After 2007 OU terminology and philosophy became woven forever into SALPOV dogma. There will always be a relationship between the two. To correct it, SALPOV will have to offer a rebate to former clients who were vulnerable or gullible enough to sign up post-2007 and then Charles and Lenora will have to rewrite their whole gospel, finding some other intellectual property to rob. From what I can see, OU is alive and well inside the core of SALPOV. Let's hear it for "Oneness" and "deeksha" and "blessing giver"!

Concerning SALPOV's integration of Oneness University into their product, a corporation with integrity would've said, yes, we made a mistake, we are sorry, we learned. Please accept this rebate. But SALPOV attempted to cover it up. And now, only after being exposed do they begin to admit any sort of problem. And, as the pattern goes, the first response is pretty glossed over and unacceptable. The second step will be to blame underlings and others, as they have already done with other issues such as the UK POV website continuing to maintain that Charles is actually a psychologist.

I mention this because OU dogma is being passed as part of the bogus SALPOV healing to the people of Haida Gwaii thanks to the missionary work of the Spezzanos and their cult followers. SALPOV personnel on Haida Gwaii who advertise themselves as "blessing givers" and toss around "Oneness" like some sort of wonderful goal are really promoting OU covered with a thin SALPOV veneer. If SALPOV really thinks OU is bad, then they need to stop operations in BC since the OU philosophy remains intact in the SALPOV curriculum. The Spezzanos robbed the philosophy of one culture, repackaged it, and are now imposing it on another culture.

During the whole 2012 Mayan calendar scare, which was the New Age equivalent of the Y2K panic, the Spezzanos did their best to cash in that trend. Part of that included a rare visit to the mainland United States in a joint workshop with Guru Singh. It was held in the Los Angeles area in 2009--

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/next-evolution-mastery-of-heart-mind-spirit-tickets-362530338 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/next-evolution-mastery-of-heart-mind-spirit-tickets-362530338)

Guru Singh and his complicated connections with the Spezzanos have been mentioned by Piff a couple times in this forum. Apparently, unlike the Spezzanos, Guru Singh has no problem being associated with Oneness University and his connection with the place is all over Internet. As an aside he also appears to have a more coherent and well-managed organisation than SALPOV.

The Next Evolution promotional material included some Youtubes from Guru Singh, Lenora Spezzano, and Charles Lee Spezzano. The emphasis is on their partnership and how they fit well together--

http://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos)

My favorite video is from Charles, please note the image at 1:55--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTQ6v6zIVM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTQ6v6zIVM)

Pictures speak louder than words, so they say.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 01, 2014, 06:58:18 am
Chuck S. does not claim that it can cure diseases, neither cancer nor AIDS. He tells that in the period in which the meetings or treatments took place, there was a cure. He claimes that every desease can be healed. When and how the healing process took place can not be specified on certain events or periods for sure. But indirectly it suggests to people that his treatments are involved in the healing processes without verifying this. Although he claims that the patient / client is to be healed from his own .... but it is up to the patient in his suggestion how CS has opened the path for healing and how he has an effect on the healing process by the treatments, whatever this could mean, whatever the patient / client want to interpret or can.
This is quite diffuse, because the way of a cure for the client may not be tangible, and then not even comprehensible. If something goes wrong, maybe he can not trace back the date from the way ran in the wrong direction.
Spezzona suggest he helps people by explaining the facts, but this is no healing, it is superficial, it dissociates, ... some facts are false, ...

Spirituality is a very important aspect in healing for Spezzano . I agree with that . But spirituality develops individual, it may develop in the course of treatment at the end, maybe not. But not at he beginning of a treatment. Spezzano forces this process by taking place from the outside. Here is the danger that clients will not have a authentic relationship to itself and a spirituality, they will asking for more external help and way of life, for more spirituality, to those form of lifes they have no real connection. This can be a prepared ground for an abuse of Native American ceremonies and healing practices, especially in this case, Spezzona has connection to Haida Gwai, the contact can mislead people to misunderstand Spezzona got authentic relationship to Native Americans.

In the bookshop Lehmann 's can be read in books under " look inside the book ." Some are in English
http://www.lehmanns.de/search/quick?q=spezzona

I have read into some , with the good will to find there positives. But, heavens , is there a bullshit inside, and that of a psychologist. Unbelievable . Creepy .... This is not a professional help, he wants to bring with his books to the people. This can be dangerous ...


Well, since Spezzona claims that cancer is curable, that any disease can be cured, the following book surely he knows, a good basis on Oncology: http://www.amazon.de/Die-Onkologie-Epidemiologie-Pathogenese-Grundprinzipien/dp/3540646485/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1401602184&sr=1-9
In the various diseases of cancer, the treatment results should be uncountable under his guidance .....
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 01, 2014, 01:22:42 pm
Found this on the Down 2 Earth Psychic Centre webpage. It does help when one tries to categorise where Psychology of Vision belongs in the world of science (bold emphasis is mine)--

www.down2earthpsychic.net/practitioners-are-go/ (http://www.down2earthpsychic.net/practitioners-are-go/)

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Practitioners are GO!
By Anni3 On May 27, 2014

It’s been a very busy couple of months at the Down 2 Earth Psychic Centre to say the least! Annie Conboy has been joined by some very talented practitioners to offer something for the body, mind, emotions & spirit for everyone. As well as treatments, workshops, counselling and meditation groups there is a lovely library space to sit & enjoy a cuppa with cake. In June the Centre is also expanding it’s activities with Reiki share sessions & a ‘Time Out With Baby’ group.

The passion to collaborate & offer services in a holistic way has brought everyone together. Each practitioner understands that we are energy beings & that when our energies get out of balance we may need a range of supportive services to help us make sense of & rebalance our energy. Along the way we also tackle the ‘big’ questions like why am I here, why is this happening to me, what can I do about my life & is there still guidance & support from loved ones who are no longer with us. Whatever question, circumstance or challenge, the practitioners have techniques & services that can help. So if you are interested in your spiritual development or the afterlife, would like some Reiki, Crystal or Spirit healing, a hands on therapy like reflexology or Indidan Head massage please call in & see us.

Working in the Centre we have:

Annie Conboy, Intuitive Medium & Psychic offers Spirit, Aura, Past Life & Card readings; Awakening & Down2Earth Workshops on a variety of topics; Reiki or Spirit Healing; Development, Trance & Open Circles. Find out more at www.gia-ltd.co.uk

Kay Austerberry, Reiki Master, EFT & Emotion Code Practioner. Spiritual Medium.Find out more on her FaceBook page.

Sue Brooks, Aromatherapy, Equine Touch & Natural Horsemanship

Helen Lasham, Counselling, Bach Flower Remedies
 
Maxine McKeown, Shamanic Wayshower & Animal Communicator

Catherine Ritchie, Crystal Healer & Angelic Reiki Practitioner. For more info about her therapies please visit her web site.

Helen Speak, Psychology of Vision Trainer

Caroline Tiler-Ansell, Reflexologist, Massage (including Indian Head massage & Sports massage), Aromatherapy. There is more info on her FaceBook page.

To be fair, Speak is apparently not a current SALPOV trainer (she is not listed on the UK present website), and, if true, according to the Trainers Manual should not be be advertising herself as such. What I find interesting is that Psychology of Vision fits right in there with practices associated more with the paranormal than with hard sciences and it is accepted as a good fit.

As Grifters Hotel always said, our problem with SALPOV is about behavior, not belief. If SALPOV wants to embrace a New Age clientele that is fine, but the very name of their corporation is misleading. They are not licensed professionals in the field of psychology or mental health. Their "research" is not subject to scrutiny in academic journals. They are accountable to no one. And as we have learned, everything they say needs to be fact-checked.

Perhaps the time has come for APTN to broadcast a second, follow-up investigation, starting with the First Nations Fund chapter from the 2013 German POV Trainers Manual , because the one thing SALPOV does seem scientific about is how they target the FN audience.


http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 03, 2014, 03:26:49 am
Lenora Kay Spezzano's coverage of the dark 2004 Tipaldi episode in her recent online defense of SALPOV is very interesting--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-happened-in-2004-with-the-state-of-hawaii-regarding-chucks-status-as-a-psychologist/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-happened-in-2004-with-the-state-of-hawaii-regarding-chucks-status-as-a-psychologist/)

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What Happened in 2004 with The State of Hawaii Regarding Chuck’s Status As A Psychologist?

Nothing at all. We were marginally involved with a custody battle many years before, in that we wrote letters of support for a woman in relation to the child custody case with her ex-husband. The ex-husband’s lawyer claimed that, because our Psychology of Vision logo was on our stationary, that the logo meant we were both claiming to be licensed psychologists; so the judge ruled our letters were inadmissible, even though Chuck signed his letter “Chuck Spezzano, Ph.D., M.F.C.C.” and I signed “Lency Spezzano, M.Sc.” As it turned out, our letters did not figure into the final outcome, because the judge ruled in favor of the wife anyway.

The woman in question now lives in Hawaii and remains a SALPOV devotee. And whoever that judge was who ruled the Spezzano letters were not allowed  knew a fake when he or she saw one.

Notice Lenora did not address the APTN data presented both in their broadcast and in text--

http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)

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The other group being discussed in Haida Gwaii is Psychology of Vision. Despite its name, the two founders Lency and Chuck Spezzano are not psychologists.

In fact, Charles Spezzano was fined in 2004 for acting like a psychologist while not being licensed by the state of Hawaii.

Chuck Spezzano told APTN Investigates that because he works internationally he doesn’t need to be licensed. He said he is not a psychologist and calls himself “a coach.”

But he says the work he does is indeed psychology.

And she also did not address this charge from the unfortunate Mr. Tipaldi himself--

http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html (http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html)

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I declare that all allegations of abuse are incorrect and false. Almost without exception all alleged allegations that have been made against me are a result of the children’s mother using fraudulent documents that are contained in the record of this case by Chuck Spezzano, Lency Spezzano, Katherine Snow Davis, Christine Snow, and Cindy Yanover. All of these individuals supplied written documents that were entered into the record by Sarah Carpini. All these individuals claimed in their individual documents they were licensed professional to practice in the area of Psychology, Marriage and Family Therapists or Social Workers. All of these individuals were personal friends of Sarah Carpini. The attached documents are from the State of Hawaii Licensing division for said alleged professionals showing these individuals were in fact not licensed. See exhibits C, pages 1 through 9. The licensing division in Hawaii did in fact take action against these individuals. Also see order from Judge Watanabe, Fifth Circuit, State of Hawaii. I had never been or was not abusive or a threat, Exhibit C, pages 10 through 13, Guardian Ad Litem report, Exhibit C, pages 14 through 20, and Affidavit by Alena Tyler, Exhibit C, pages 21 through 24.

I declare that there is a document in the record by Chuck Spezzano, claiming to have seen me as a patient in a professional capacity. I declare that at no time have I or had I been a patient of Mr. Spezzano. Mr. Spezzano’s document paints a very negitive [sic] picture of me.

...

November 1995

Mother introduces additional documents into record by individuals, one claiming to be a licensed psychologist who claims to have seen the father in a professional manner, which is disputed.

Note:  There are letters from the state of Hawaii DCCA that all of the individuals were not licensed and action has been taken against them for these letters. On 4/26/2004, I personally spoke with, the attorney for the state of Hawaii Denise.P.Balanay@dcca.hawaii.gov who is taking action against, RE: PSY 2003-5-U - Chuck Spezzano who claimed to be a licensed psychologist in a letter that is in the record of this case that had been produced into the record by the mother. Ms. Balanay stated to me that because this is an on going case there was not much she could do at this point to further help the father without jeopardizing her case against Mr. Spezzano. She informed me that she would talk with her supervisor to see what more she could do to help the father.

Tipaldi accused Charles Lee Spezzano of lying. So we have a professional journalist and dead man presenting an alternative view of Lenora's version of events.

Given Lenora's track record so far on sticking to reality ("This world is actually a dream, it is an illusion. The same thing is said by quantum physicists."--Lenora Kay Spezzano in "Healing the Great Wars Download"), I'm siding with a professional journalist from APTN and Tipaldi himself.

Steve Tipaldi 1954-2004.

http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/

He died. That was not a dream or illusion. 



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 04, 2014, 08:33:29 pm
Lency Spezzano says she has never heard any complaints about POV seminars. Either she is not listening, or is lying, or both. Serious concerns and complaints are available, including in the APTN episode "Plastic Healers", here on this forum, and elsewhere.

If Chuck and Lency truly cared about people, once they heard that some participants feel suicidal, they would stop what they are doing. Because safety should come first. POV is not safe.

Lency claims:

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The PoV First Nations Fund has brought $1.5 million USD of resources to British Columbia to support First Nations in their healing over the past 20 years.

I'd like to see a detailed list of those "resources". Is she referring to seminars?

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The First Nations Fund

The First Nations Fund was created to support the healing of First Nations so they can teach & inspire their own communities. Financial contributions have been generously donated from each country where Psychology of Vision is taught around the world. Since its inception the First Nations Fund has successfully graduated 19 First Nations people from the 100 day program, and 9 of these graduates have become FN Trainers around BC.

http://povcanada.com/first-nations/ (http://povcanada.com/first-nations/)

Success From The Inside Out – For First Nations Customized Coaching and Training http://21stcenturydynamics.com/success-from-the-inside-out-for-first-nations/ (http://21stcenturydynamics.com/success-from-the-inside-out-for-first-nations/)

Lency characterizes critics as malicious, lying attackers. Her supporters are being rallied to step up and provide glowing testimonials. Lency continues to act as a high demand group leader. She and Chuck continue to not pay heed to serious safety concerns.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 05, 2014, 05:29:51 pm
Lency Spezzano says she has never heard any complaints about POV seminars. Either she is not listening, or is lying, or both. Serious concerns and complaints are available, including in the APTN episode "Plastic Healers", here on this forum, and elsewhere.

If Chuck and Lency truly cared about people, once they heard that some participants feel suicidal, they would stop what they are doing. Because safety should come first. POV is not safe.


They can never claim on there were never problems. Certainley there were problems, even problems they were not able to find a solution. To care about people with suicide issues is not easy, it is not ever claer if this person is vulnerable to attemped suicide or not .... maybe it is better Spezzonas close thier eyes and be deapth on their ears not to come clother to this difficult problem .... better they put themselve in a situiation never to be respnosible for what they are doing, for what will happen?????


If Chuck Spezzona has finished his study in psychology with a accredited Ph.d., he got a right to carry this title. There are rights to change the title from Ph.d to "doctor" or other way round, this is in different countries managed by state. The question is: Has Chuck Spezzona a right to treat as a Ph.d, as a psychologist in Hawaii? Is his profession in Hawaii accepted by Hawaian state? If it is accepted, he can work as a psychologist in Hawaii. And than he will be responsible for all what he is doing in his treatment with his clients. But maybe his profession is not accepted, maybe he needs some education or special examination to get his profession recognized, maybe he needed to study again? I don´t know, how is the law in Hawaii. If Spezzona finished with Ph.d he is a psychologist, he is allowed to carry this title, definitley. Ana also he can lost his accredition by state, if he makes fatale mistakes.
Whatever happened, this part is dubious. I don´t know what really happened, that this thema "psychologist or not" raised up to a problem which won´t be clearified by Spezzona at least.

But this sentence: "Chuck Spezzano told APTN Investigates that because he works internationally he doesn’t need to be licensed. He said he is not a psychologist and calls himself “a coach.” is false. It doesn´t matter if you work internationally, if you work in a country as a psychlogist you need to be accepted by state in this country where you work.
As a coach, if this is not a recognized profession Chuck Spezzona could be in the position not to be responsible by state for his ttreatments  and for its results. If a client is harmed by Spezzona and he tries to file charges on Spezzona, maybe the law say: If he doesn´t work as a psychologist there is nothing we can do against him. In this way Spezzona has assured himself not to be jugded by state. But I don´t know if my thought is correct.
This way would not be ethically and it is not an psychologically accepted in my opinion.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 06, 2014, 02:23:35 am
At the time Charles Lee Spezzano graduated with his Ph. D., which was not even in clinical psychology, his school was not accredited by the APA. In many cases in the USA having an unaccredited degree is worthless in the job market. So, he is not licensed in Hawaii to practice psychology and might not be granted this privilege even if he applied for a license, given his flawed degree. In probably all of the United States, he could be fined, like he was in 2004, for presenting himself as a psychologist.

Charles, Lenora Kay Spezzano, and cult-follower Julian Ticehurst have all gone on record admitting Charles is not a psychologist. It seems to me that the very name of their "Psychology of Vision" organisation is very misleading. If your water pipes were bad and you saw a corporation called "Plumbing with Vision" you would expect the staff to be qualified plumbers, right? And if it turned out  they were not, you would feel scammed. The Spezzanos are not professionals in the mainstream sense of the word. And neither are the diminishing number of SALPOV trainers. This is a cult, not a true medical healing enterprise.

But yes, he can use the title "Dr." as any Ph. D. in the USA can, no matter what the degree was in, like theatre, education, agriculture, etc. His use of the title cannot be considered a medical one.

In using the "coach" description he has found a very convenient way to circumvent the law in order to be accountable to no one while creating havoc in the lives of vulnerable people and accumulating vast sums of money (e.g. charging over $1000 an hour for personal consultations).

Notice that SALPOV has hardly any presence in the USA, their home country. Why is that, do you suppose?

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 07, 2014, 08:32:34 pm
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Is Chuck Spezzano A Psychologist?

If you read Chuck’s resume section on this website, you will know that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology. I have never heard him refer to himself as a psychologist, and we have never advertised him as one, because that would require a psychologist’s license. We don’t edit the promotional material that PoV promoters and Trainers around the world create, as it is primarily in foreign languages. If some have been calling Chuck a psychologist instead of saying that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology, I’m sure it has been brought to their attention now.

--Lenora Kay Spezzano, The Truth About Chuck and Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-chuck-spezzano-a-psychologist/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-chuck-spezzano-a-psychologist/)

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... I've worked as a psychologist for the U.S. Navy ...

--Charles Lee Spezzano at 0:37 in the YouTube Change Your Heart, Change the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=PL3A0C019D53295DA6)

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CHUCK SPEZZANO is one of the world’s leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy.

--Psychology of Vision UK website, which seemed to have no problem participating in the Oneness University data purge that took place all across various POV and related websites a few months ago, so one can assume Hawaii has influence over this mention as well.

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 07, 2014, 09:46:51 pm
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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

--Lenora Kay Spezzano, The Truth About Chuck and Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision


http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/
 (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

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Okay, so we're going to be having a joining session. In Psychology of Vision we're starting to call them "Oneness Sessions" now.

--Lenora Kay Spezzano, Psychology of Vision trailer, at about 6:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo)

A wave of thanks to the individual who found and modestly shared this. This person has requested anonymity.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 08, 2014, 04:15:17 pm
He (Spezzona) graduated Cum Laude from Duquesne University (the best school in the U.S. for Existential Phenomenology, Which is where Humanistic Philosophy and Psychology come from) in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in 1970, getting his Bachelor of Arts degree, with a double major in Philosophy and Psychology.
He received his Master of Arts degree in Sociology from Duquesne as well, in 1971. Hey what hired as a counselor and director of outreach at the Brashear Association, there in Pittsburgh in 1972. Later in 1972, Chuck moved to San Diego, California, to begin his Ph.D. into Counseling Psychology from the United States International University.
Chuck chose USIU Because They had the strongest Humanistic Psychology program he Could find in the U.S. at the time. (USIU and the California School of Professional Psychology joined in 2001 to form Alliant International University.) He graduated with his Ph.D. in 1977.

Whether Spezzano is a psychologist or not, the university, where he studied, could confirm or deny at least in which subjects he has his summa cum laude. I think the evidence could be provided to the public.

I think it is problematically to set a focus on the issue if he is probably not a psychologist, it could lead away from this matter what he is doing and why.

Even if he has a non-APA accredited degree, he can work with this university degree with a right to treat as a psychologist and he is allowed to call himself psychologist?
I guess, a lack of accredition does not mean that the diploma is not valid. Is the diploma valid and Spezzano has summa cum laude completed in psychology and philosophy, he has a Ph.D in these two subjects.
In which countries he get the right to work as a psychlogist is from country to country different.

But possibly C. Spezzona never wants to work as a psychologist just to avoid the responsibility?
L. Spezzona canvass clients with the fact, C. Spezzona is a psychologists. This makes confidence. But as a psychologist C. Spezzona is committed to be actually up - to - date informated, maybe proofed. I think, as a "coach" he does not. One fact, e. g. : Psycho - analysis by Freud is very often contraindicated for patients with traumatic stress. If Spezzona forces his patient to go more and more back in his own biography, he can commited a retraumatisation. As a psychologist he will be responsible. But as a "coach"? C. Spezzona never calls himself a psychologist, he always declare himself as a "coach". I suggest this is not conservativness.

One important question here is, in what extent Spezzano can be pressed charges and punished for a result of mistreatment and does he need to fear consequences or not?

For example, a patient accuses the "therapist" of a  failed treatment. What can happen, depending  in the function of the "therapist"? Does the "therapist" treat as a psychologist the patient with psychologically technics, the "therapist" needs to court accountable his treatments and he can be pressed charges and be punished.
Declare the "therapist" himself just as "Coach", maybe fixed in a treaty, and he treated in this function the patient, maybe he can be pressed charges in case of a false treatment, possible he needs
to a court order and has render an account of his treatment.
But does a "therapist" just acting as a "coach" needs to fear this? Could it be, that due to the legal situation he cannot be judicially pressed charges and punished as a "coach", due to the legal situation than the charges had to been dropped and he will not be responsible for his treatment, and thus he goes unpunished. Is this factual and legal position correct or wrong? I don´t know.

Here in Germany it is said - bitter: "The treatment indeed is gone wrong, but if you're so stupid, entrust yourself to a layman, it's you own fault, to trust in the so-called " Therapist ", he does not have a qualified knowledge to be able to treat you adequately and you will embark with a good faith on your own responsibility in his hands" The offender will not be able to be pressed charges. Shit happens.

How can a "therapist" use the result of the court in the public or in his organization? Just telling a bit of the truth to the public he can use the result (leading to false conclusions) as pressurizing medium (the business with fear, guilt and shame is profitable), as advertising, as a false acquittal or as a proof that his treatments were correct. The "Therapist" just needs to ignore some false comments / thoughts and doesn´t need to correct other one´s statements - and the "real true story" runs its way. Responsible for false conclusions? No.
His supporters don´t attack the "therapist´s" hand which feeds their wishes - and maybe an attack could strike back one day. Then in the same position as this patient?
Maybe it is said: There was no proof of  a guilt, the therapist could not be proven for a wrong treatment, therefore its treatment has been correctly "... and the blame lies with the patient. The "therapist" can manifest the guilt of the patient in the public just by keeping silence about the truth.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 08, 2014, 06:12:03 pm
here ia a link describing money making schemes, from reading about the great research about hoe PoV is set up and run in this forum, it looks like the spezzanos are great at deception and misleading the public from who and what they really are.
 when they say they help first nations in the rebirth of their culture, i can't help but think how insulting this is for any indian nation to see and read,here is another white man recreating indian culture and traditions to his diluted beliefs, people in their right minds say this spezzano and PoV is even a worse form of colonization of indian peoples than what was already done to them. people have come forward and tried to get help from one of the spezzanos, they do not want to hear anyones problems, i'm beginning to think the spezzanos at least know that they cannot help people that are having problems from their :workshops", not answering the call for help is one way of avoiding reality,remember they say nothing is real, it's all an illusion, when a person ends up in the emergency room from attempted suicide is not an illusion and is very real, when it's from problems from a pov workshop, that is very real too, yet the spezzanos would rather believe like in this actual case of someone asking an advanced trainer for help was told ... there is only one of us here, you're just telling a story and clised the door on her, yeh, these are the type of people we have to deal with when question or speak up about this high demand group,
when the spezzanos say they hold pro bono "workshops " for indian cultural Renaissance,they're full of shit about them being free, they bum money from people in other countries to pay for first nations PoV "teachings".they even have a first nations blanket dance video showing them bumming money..
 one of the things they say is indians have the answer to help world problems and we have to help them so people can learn from them, in essence..give us money and we'll go in and help save them. we all know that the spezzanos positioned some devotees in villages , some under the title of"advanced trainers"and 100 plus day grads that recruit for PoV.. some have important job positions and have used them to push PoV onto village citizens, indoctrinating them so they will be driven to teach PoV teachings so everyone will get along. this is why PoV is so dangerous to first nations, if PoV had they're way then the whole village would be PoV, this is absolutely nothing with any first nations culture. it amounts to nothing more than power, dominance and control of first nations people.
here is an interesting article that will help you make your own decisions whetere or not PoV fits into this scheme, personally i see the PoV "advanced trainers" set up described almost to a perfect fit here

http://www.financialindustryscam.com/mlm.htm#definition

 any one can call themselves a psychologist, but to be licensed is another story, the psychology licensing board of B.C. said chuck spezzano was nec=ver licensed in B.C. or Canada ... ever,. he can duck under the psychology licensing board laws if not registered. the spezzanos deny knowing about all the advertising about them where they're promoted and deceiving people that they're indeed licensed psychologists, if this is the cs=ase ,then they sure don't know how their business is run, but then these people seem to be masters of denial and another case of it's someone Else's fault yet again they are not accountable or responsible, how can they think there is only one of us here and we don't have to be accountable..
 the fact that is coming out about these spezzanos ...                                 
     some have spoken up asking for help, none was offered,
        the one fact the spezzanos neglect is
 
     THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF US HERE
                 WE ALL HAVE A VOICE
              AND WE"RE SPEAKING UP.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 08, 2014, 06:37:02 pm
" any one can call themselves a psychologist"

In Germany you can call yourself a "psychologist" only when youre finished your study with a diploma. Without having a diploma and you call yourself a "psychologist" is betray. It is different in other countries?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 08, 2014, 08:14:01 pm
in canada you have to be a licensed psychologist to legally practice psychology,  Dr. Amy Janeck from college of registered psychologists in bc stated that-chuck spezzano has never been licensed to  ever practice psychology in bc or canada, that's where the law comes in to protect people, there are people promoting and / or deceiving people that chuck is a psychologist in their puff talk advertisements to make him look legit to lure unsuspecting participants into signing up with PoV all from using misleading loaded jargon language
 as shown in this nafps forum.. psychology of vision isn't what they portray themselves to be to the public, this is why this nafps is so important, to help people to make better choices in seeking to making their lives better, sites with public education about harmful controversial groups is much needed because it's obvious that there are a lot of con and scam artists out there trying to take advantage of already vulnerable people.
 anyone can call themselves what ever in canada, its what they do with it that is what to watch out for, i don't understand why health canada doesn't take heed of these unlicensed psychologists and do something about them ?? i recently saw on the  tv canadien news that there was a crack down on unlicensed dentists in bc, why do they allow unlicensed psychologists to freely operate?? i bet you cannot get insurance for Pov.. as a matter of fact participants have to sign a form giving away their rights for medical coverage, i think because PoV is classified as experimental and no insurance would cover something experiemental anyway also they get you to sign waivers to free them from responsibility.. so it is truly buyer beware of these groups that don't have the well being of participants at the top of the list
 we need tougher laws in canada to stop these unethical people from taking advantage of someone trying to better their lives and taking resources meant for true healing.
these people that made a financial business to take advantage of vulnerable people amount to nothing more than cruel people, especially when they say it's the victims fault for "not getting it" and to get it ...come back next time, spend more money and try "getting it" this time,
it looks like PoV is set up so no one will ever get healed. they have to keep coming back to spend more money for the next "new" topic you need to get healed from ...chasing that rotten carrot on a big big stick, there is no instant quick fix to heal our mind, people have to do hard personal work for answers that are good for themselves to live better inside themselves, be careful of those cult leaders that will scoop up you and your own belief system and change it to their own indoctrination, you will not know this is even happening to you, be careful..
the spezzanos claim they don't target first nationd  but it is a documented fact that they do target first nations.
here is an admission by melissa meyer..she tell how she can teach rss pov so they can go back to their outlying village to teach PoV so everyone will "get along" ,how insulting this must be is to all first nations, getting saved by another white mans idea what is good for us savage indians

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf

after a real licensed qualified hypnotherpist saw this promotional youtube  for PoV showing the haida woman getting "tuned up" by lency,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY
 her comment was this is nothing but stage hypnotism and babs stevens wants to be like lency so bad that she goes into her "trance" so fast is because she wants to be just like lency and wants to please her..to show how good she "gets it"

a medical doctor said they're trained to recognize brainwashing while in medical school and babs stevens is obviously being brainwashed in the lost original mind pov promotional youtube.

 he said before they couldn't say names,but now that this is out and has been on national tv and other forms of media he can say it's obvious that babs stevens is being brainwashed and this is nothing to do with healing as advertised by the psychology of vision advertisements.
there is this to add, anyone can talk with the rcmp about cults, the rcmp on haida gwaii have an open file about both chuck spezzano's psychology of vision because of the physical threats to people questioning,speaking up and haveing an opinion of PoV and the devotees the "participand=ts" didn't agree with, and there is an open file on erick gonzalez cult group - earth peoples united because of the illegal drug use, the helucenogenics erick doles out to his devotees are medicines when used properly and according to the tribes and cultures territories where the medicines grow, but erick gonzalez doles out copious amounts that disrespect the proper hab=ndling of the medicines and turns it into nothing more than recreational drug use and abuse,
the rcmp say everyone knows cults are bad for people and they need to be watched ,who knows what triggers are put into the "participants"? there have been extreme cases on tv with mass suicides and murders from participants in cults, people relate these crimes to big city problems but cults are far reaching , even to a far away remote place like haida gwaii,
i personally agree with the rcmp that these cults and "participants" need to be watched and made aware of, even stopped because the same "teachings" and indoctrinations are the same as in the big cities where people relate and associate the craziness and crimes committed from their cult involvement 
so what is to stop thes bad things from happening in a small place like haida gwaii ? some participants already showed the potential for extreme violence to protect PoV and their leader from anyone speaking up,what is the next level they maybe triggered to do ??, I'm glad the rcmp have a file on and are understanding what these groups of people really are.
 people really need to be protected, in more ways than just public education and informed consent about cults.
  it is a good sign that doctors, teachers real educated health care professionals and especially the help of the rcmp that this is a real problem and that there have been problems from peoples involvement with these cults that need to be properly addressed for everyones well being, not just the cult leaders well being of more financial gain with the means justifies the end results.that is what b=needs to be fixed up ... the means these people use to take control to gather people and their financial resources up.
 i would say police protection and knowledge about these groups along with people in professional and health positions are needed and welcome to help public education about harmful groups and tactics used by the advanced trainers and 100 plus day grads to influence prospective "participants" and family members.and to show what is being funded with government money..


buyer beware
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 10, 2014, 06:57:05 am
con and scam artists

C. Spezzona has some knowledge in psychology, possibly through a course of study or part study (canceled, not check deposited or only sporadically attended classes, I do not know). L. Spezzona is certainly
 trained by her husband, but has also attended courses at the school (but she did not mention which school it was and what kind of courses she attended).

That Spezzona have a basic knowledge, I see this at their behaviors and practices they "advise and coaches" to the people, their attitudes, beliefs, etc. For some of people it is difficult to detect this maybe.
There are some points in which I come to the realization that their psychological knowledge cannot only be easily make out in pieces in their image or is just learned from books. There is more behind. But they suggest for their goals a direction that leads psychologically astray ... but does it really - consciously - astray? Or perhaps it border on abuse and abuse of power? Just a con and scam artist?

Spezzonas bring in a variety of psychological areas especially vulnerable people, again and again in a helplessness and avail themselves of fear, guilt and shame, and shame is something that few people want to deal with, if it hurts too much, this is often when people have mental health problems. They act abusive, exceed the limits, ignore any signs that shows that a situiation for a human is really unbearable. This can be used to promote a dissociative behavior that  a client can use to come out of an for him intolerable situation. Unfortunately it is not even certain that the client can notice this "unbearable". And not everyone is able to flight ahead. A client can be caught in a situation, he responded again and again with the same patterns of behavior and can not step out on their own of this situation.

That which both propagate, their attitudes, their help and the way they forces on humans can lead to immense psychological damage, especially for psychologically vulnerable people.
I recognize a lot, but I have never experienced that this is used in that form .... used or abused? .... When I see what this can cause to human, thenmy stomach convulsing together, it makes me sick, I am appalled ..... but I'm actually still missing the right words that can describe the emerging feeling.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 11, 2014, 04:36:46 am
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

In Lenora Kay Spezzano's recent online attempt at spin control, she reveals that SALPOV does indeed have an "us vs. them" mentality. Her critics are painted as low-life character assassins while she and Charles Lee Spezzano are being so maliciously victimized and martyred for the cause of spiritual healing (cue up the "Bliss Music") as their motives are only pure and angelic. Oh my goodness, how terrible that these altruistic messengers are being so slandered, defamed, and subject to libel! Wow, we critics must be really bad people.

The concept of freedom of thought and speech and presenting very inconvenient researched data must be regarded as social insubordination for Lenora. Until we came along, the SALPOV cult followers and possible recruits were easier to manage. But now those poor sods who subscribe to the dogma are exposed to *gasp!* critical questions and observations that SALPOV cannot control as we threaten the corporation's profit margin, which is what all of Lenora's hand-wringing is about. Remember, we are dealing with an American who has never known a life outside of wealth and a sense of entitlement. We are regarded by Lenora as the rabble, the riff-raff, the muckrakers, the troublemakers, the proletarian, the street people, the undesirables, the wage-slaves, the cultural marginals, the uppity lower classes who could never afford to pay the high fees required by SALPOV without major sacrifice. In her world her husband charges over $1000 an hour for a personal consultation and that is accepted as normal. According to her, we don't have the right to question anything about SALPOV which is why they sent that bogus legal notice to some of our comrades.

Rounding up cult followers to provide glowing testimonials in an echo chamber only serves to demonstrate that SALPOV is indeed a personality cult.

But if the Spezzanos are the high-profile and famous world figures they say they are, then they are standing in the arena of public opinion. It is reasonable to expect SALPOV should be open to inspection. We have critically reviewed the unethical business practices of this corporation that sells spirituality as a retail product and we have provided reality-checks to dubious SALPOV claims with our research and documentation. Of course SALPOV is upset, but the truth is the truth and Lenora Kay Spezzano is not telling the whole truth in her recent online reactive response. Almost everything she claims on there has already been easily challenged on this forum. A true seeker will search this forum and realize that when it comes to SALPOV where there is smoke (and mirrors) there is fire.

Lenora's description of those who dare to question SALPOV reads like she has been visited upon by some disease. Well, obviously the Spezzanos and their cult followers "manifested" this growing army of inquisitive minds looking into the peculiar and bizarre practices of the upper executives of the Spezzano & Associates Psychology of Vision for-profit corporation. In employing the Spezzano/Ticehurst own Healing Metaphors philosophy, we can only conclude SALPOV has brought this unwanted and uncomfortable attention on themselves because they must have done something they feel guilty about.

To quote Charles Lee Spezzano--

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There's no problem, physically or any kind of problem that doesn't come from some form of guilt.

The SALPOV philosophy is that the victim of any misfortune is to blame, and since the Spezzanos are playing the victim, then obviously they are to blame for their own discomfort. The "Healing Key" here is to take responsibility and make amends.

One amend the Spezzanos could provide would be to pay for all the exit counseling that will be required for SALPOV survivors before the entire corporation crashes after a death spiral, a descent that has already begun.

SALPOV is a personality cult designed to fatten the coffers of the Spezzano bank account. It is nothing more.

For too long SALPOV has been accountable to no one thanks to the way they have weaseled around licensing laws. The time has come for them to be seriously investigated by law enforcement and media. APTN gave it a good start, and I commend them. But this attention needs to grow. And from what I understand it appears this is starting to happen.

As the saying goes, "What goes around comes around."




   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 15, 2014, 12:21:56 am
Lenora Kay Spezzano's official statement regarding the SALPOV and Oneness University connection:

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

The Spezzanos attended OU in 2007. Great effort has been spent attempting to erase all trace of OU from SALPOV websites, but the following quotes are still on their blog. Look at the dates. Observe, and learn--

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AMMA&BHAGAVAN

Today's card is AMMA-BHAGAVAN. These are two enlightened masters from India who are a couple. They started the Oneness movement and hope to raise conciosness [sic] the world over through Oneness blessings. As with so many of our spiritual leaders, they are great channels of love and grace dedicated to helping end the suffering of humanity. So the experience today is one of grace to help us all move forward.

Posted 9th October 2009 by Chuck Spezzano

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AMMA&BHAGAVAN

AMMA&BHAGAVAN are the card for today. They are Indian Gurus who bring a lot of grace and miracles to the earth and like all holy people are interested in uplifting humanity. As a result they can be called on to intercede on our behalf. They are symbols of wholeness here on earth and they betoken a grace-filled day.

Posted 21st August 2010 by Chuck Spezzano

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AMMA AND BHAGAVAN

AMMA AND BHAGAVAN is the card for today. These are enlightened avatars in INDIA and they signal your friends in high places whatever your beliefs. In writings around A COURSE IN MIRACLES it states that their [sic] are more masters on the earth right now for the 'celestial speedup' and the opportunity we have to leap to a new level of consciousness that is interdependent instead of independent.

Let us be thankful for all the work and grace these masters bring us and how they model a higher way. The growth of spirituality with its incumbent love and joy will rise as we learn the mutuality of interdependence. Let us be open to the work these older brothers and sisters from all over the world are providing for us.

Posted 29th August 2010 by Chuck Spezzano

Until early this year, Oneness University was still listed on SALPOV websites as one of the Spezzanos' two "greatest inspirations." Interesting that Spezzano credits the OU founders with also starting the "Oneness movement." Remember that fact every time you hear "Oneness" or "Deeksha" mentioned in SALPOV by the Spezzanos or their trainers from now on. Much of SALPOV is simply a repackaged version of Oneness University.

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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 15, 2014, 03:49:22 am
there is so much information that contradicts these spezzano cult leaders everything they claim and say about themselves being anygood is readily proven to be nothing but lies,
 maybe to them everything is an illusion, they're not licensed to practice psychology yet they have no problem having others using deceitful advertising=g to promote themselse as credible and licensed psychologists, they try to deflect it by saying the advertisers are promoting themselves like that without their knowledge, this doesn't say much about how they run their spiritual business. and an easy way to deny themselves.
 we can safely say that their "teachings" are all an illusion because people are tricked into thinking they're buying something special in the healing field from the spezzanos and psychology of vision.
these spezzanos still need peer review from everyone licensed and educated in the real professional healing world, i wonder how they have gone on with their stage tricks for so long without being investigated by the feds in all countries they do their circuit in ??!!
people are catching on about the "participants involved in this cult, they ask why are they so miserable, judgmental, and just stick with and friendly with other members of the cult. the people asking totally understand their behavior when they find out they follow chuck/ lency spezzano's cult psychology of vision,
a real qualified trained professional hypnotherapist said all the lency brain washing videos are all an act, everyone's putting on a performance to please lency spezzano and the willing victims all want to emulate lency.. this sounds like making clones of her to help recruit more victims.
people in all walks of life can fall for these cults and the word needs to be put out and spread fast to help stop them from falling into this emotional money trap
here is another cult research site mentioning chuck and his wife lency warning people and revealing the spezzanos ties to the oneness university cult..

http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?4,105647

 i find it disgusting that these people are still operating in canada and targeting first nations, the spezzanos say everything is an illusion, it looks like it's real to me that people are catching on to their scheme,it's long over due and it looks like they're deluded to think they're so right that they don't have to hear real valid concerns from people that had bad reactions from being involved with them.it is not the victims fault yey the spezzanos carry on with absolutely no damage control to help anyone in trouble after their "workshops" lency says no one reported problems but someone was suicidal after a workshop and tried to get a hold of lency on the phone to try to get help, i was told lency kept appointing a time and postponed it to never answering the suicidal persons call for help, that is one case of denial with a common stragedy used by them . they do not want to hear negative reports or comments .when they refuse to support their victims, then this is a very dangerous group to try to get personal help from.
read about them and make an educated choice about signing a waiver and your rights to protect yourself by joining them..
you have every right to ask about THE HIDDEN AGENDA with this group and to have every question answered honestly, everyone has a right to know about any group they're thinking of joining and not be told -one thing they say-" if you want to know... then you have to come to a workshop and see for yourself"is one classic cult response among many traits and responses for you to know,
people have asked 100 day grads, an advanced trainer and lency herself, not one of them helped.one person had the rcmp called on her by 2 100 plus day grads that have called themselves "councilors,I was told by a survivor she went to the local "advanced trainer"/recruiter for help with the way her life was turning bad ..  the advanced trainer told the person seeking/asking help told the victim "there's only one of us here, you're just telling a story" then closed the door on the person then acting like the victim never existed ignored and shunned..and then lency spezzano herself did not answer the phone to talk with a person in serious suicidal trouble, she's luck to be alive and has found a better happier life after getting out of PoV, her children are lucky too because she is a beutiful loving mother that did not deserve the treatment ,or lack of follow up care from the spezzanos.
these are some stories told by survivors of the PoV group that the spezzao=nos do not want to hear.
  i wonder if it's fear phobias imbedded in the victims brains about bad accidents and luck or evil spirits  happening to them and their families through their unethical use of hypnosis if they speak up or they're made not say anything negative about the spezzanos and Pov. i hope more survivors read through this site and overcome their implanted fears to speak up about
do your research well
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 17, 2014, 01:51:20 am
The belief in exorcism of demons and the Devil is alive and well in SALPOV, a byproduct of the Catholic upbringing of Charles Lee Spezzano, who originally wanted to be a priest. But now he gets to be Pope in his own empire.

In the world of SALPOV, ego equals (cue the echo sound effect) THE DEVIL!! This means if you question any of the practices of SALPOV, you are obviously serving (echo effect again) SATAN, since all criticism of this cult is characterized as "astral attacks." This solidifies the SALPOV cult "us vs. them" mentality by dehumanizing their critics. So much for "Oneness." You'll see what I mean as I quote Charles Lee Spezzano himself later in this post. 

Allow me to explain why the Spezzanos are far from being the professionals in the field of psychology they claim to be and have more in common with carnival acts and cheap con games than they do with science, or even with other New Age beliefs. I have to hand it to the Spezzanos, they have really made fools out of a lot of rich people, even members of the Chinese Mafia according to Lenora, and for that I grudgingly say Bravo! When someone is especially good at something, they deserve some recognition.

I can see that in Europe and Asia they have been very talented in relieving wealthy dupes of their cash, but unfortunately in the process they also cleaned out the savings of innocent wage slaves. The SALPOV slogan should be, "There's a Seeker Born Every Minute." In many ways, getting away with a good con game is the stuff of legends. But part of the game of being a grifter is to quit while you're ahead, a lesson the aging Spezzanos are learning the hard way.   

They over-reached in targeting BC First Nations in a strategic way, and documenting how it was to be done in the German version of their Trainer's Manual, in the process providing "Exhibit A" for any potential affinity fraud trial. Did they really think no one would notice? They got fat and complacent.

SALPOV crossed the line from talking gullible rich people out of their money to victimizing an entire culture they grossly underestimated. All they saw was the psychological power of Manifest Destiny. It is the American Way! The Spezzanos know what is best for you unfortunate and unenlightened non-Americans. We'll create emotional havoc, pat ourselves on the back, and then leave forever! And with no accountability for the consequences of our actions! For Lenora to proclaim her efforts created a "cultural Renaissance" for FN is incredibly arrogant, colonial, and missionary. She is an Ugly American.

You can't fool all of the people all of the time, as Abraham Lincoln said. BC FN are creating the first crack in the Spezzano personality cult. The Asian and European SALPOV cult followers need to read and listen to the critics on Haida Gwaii. Current SALPOV cult followers would do well to step back from the noise the Spezzanos are buzzing in your ear and use your independent thinking. It is for your own good. Are you still capable of *shudder* natural independent thoughts outside of what the Spezzanos tell you to think?

Before I stray too far, let us get back to exorcism and how the Spezzanos are anything but mental health professionals.

The following is selected from the August 2013 newsletter from Charles Lee Spezzano--

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Every little upset, every emotion other than what proceeds from love can now be traced this month all the way back to the origin on consciousness, “The Fall,” when fear, separation and judgment began.  The Fall is where we fell into the nightmare of separation.  Of the six major levels of guilt, this is the primordial guilt from which all the other layers of guilt emerge.

You can do this exercise to help heal.  Take any little upset and invite love into it.  Ask yourself what in your adult life led to this new incident.  Invite love and Divine Love into those situations.  Then ask how old you were as a child when this began and see what comes to your mind.  Invite love and Divine Love into this scene until it’s all better.  Then go back to the womb.  If the childhood incident happened at nine years old, then there was some kind of upset at nine months in the womb.  In the womb we are like sponges, if our parents or anyone close are having an upset, we take it in as if it were ours.  We may compensate for it but it’s still in us.  Invite love and Divine Love here.  Love always comes when it is called and at every step miracles of Divine Love are waiting to come to us unless our ego blocks it but by inviting it in we make a new and better choice.  What happens in the womb and childhood shows our soul patterns.  If we don’t help our parents with their issues, we catch these patterns and they show up in us or in people around us until we get the lesson and bring the healing gifts we brought in also welcoming in Heaven’s gifts for such occasions.

Ask yourself what percentage of this upset pattern came from your ancestors.  Invite in love, Divine Love and Divine Presence to your family tree bringing them and yourself freedom from this karma.  Ask yourself what percentage of this came from your soul pattern.  Invite love, Divine Love and Divine Presence into all your lifetimes and the pattern brought in to this one.  Once this is complete, bring this energy into this life and up to the present.  Now ask yourself how much of this pattern came from the collective consciousness of humanity with all of its pain from the past.  Invite love, Divine Love and Divine Presence into the collective until this part is healed.  Next ask what percentage comes from the astral.  This is the dark supernatural of demons, devils and dark lords which is the metaphor for the darkness of the ancient ego.  Our pacts with the devil were really pacts with the ego.  This is our ancient attack and bad attitude where we turned away from Heaven and Oneness.  Invite love, Divine Love and Divine Presence into this area and as the light comes into the darkness these “demons” are redeemed and returned home.

Finally ask what percentage of this problem pattern is coming from The Fall.  Invite love, Divine Love and Divine Presence in here.  It is this remembrance of God and His Love that melts some of the dream away but certainly this problem pattern.

Guilt! Oneness! Catholic imagery! Demons! And the Ego = Devil! Whew. I get tired just reading all that.

But wait, there is more on the Spezzano blog--

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CLOSING THE OPENING TO THE ASTRAL

CLOSING THE OPENING TO THE ASTRAL is the card for today. The astral is the ancient ego sometimes depicted as devil, demons, etc. We can get openings to the astral through being unconscious or being indulgent emotionally or physically. We can have many rifts in our mind that open us to the astral. You can ask how many and what effect it has had on you. Then ask God or one of your Friends in High Places to repair these rifts and plaster the whole area over with light...Have a fine healing day !!

Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Closing the Opening to the Astral

Thank you for viewing our Blog!  We also have a website:  www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

Posted 1st October 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Closing the Opening to the Astral

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HEALING THE DEVIL(TAROT)

HEALING THE DEVIL (FROM THE TAROT DECK) is the card for today. This symbolizes healing our ego, ignorance and the chains of limitations. Have a fine day!!

Posted 12th February 2012 by Chuck Spezzano

But wait, after employing a Tarot card image (which can hardly be counted as a "professional" activity for one claiming to be active in the field of psychology) there's more!

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HEALING THE DEVIL

HEALING THE DEVIL is the card for today. The Devil in this case is the tarot of the Devil that represents ignorance as well as being chained by darkness, negativity and bad attitude. This is a very transformational day when all of these things which we usually hide from ourselves are shown to us so we can choose again, let them go and commit to the truth. Have a most powerful day!

Posted 5th November 2011 by Chuck Spezzano

Love that "bad attitude" reference. But there is more!

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HEALING THE DEVIL(TAROT)

HEALING THE DEVIL (TAROT) is the card for the today. It represents ignorance and a place we are enslaved so healing it creates freedom and awareness. Whatever had you stuck whether hidden or not so hidden can be dissolved today if you are willing and go with the flow of the unfolding…Have a beautiful day!

Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Healing the Devil (Tarot)
"Devil" card from the Archetypes and Shadows Deck by Chuck Spezzano,
Artwork by Petra Kuehne:  http://www.petralefaye.de/.

Thank you for viewing our Blog!  We also have a website:  www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com.

Posted 4th November 2013 by Chuck Spezzano

My, how Orwellian.

In the world of SALPOV, if the Devil = the ego, then "ego annihilation" is a form of exorcism. Think about it and wonder where that comes from. Sort of makes one view Lenora's "downloading" videos in a new light as well.

The Spezzano product is not medical, it is not professional, it is not healing. It is Medieval superstition, hocus-pocus, and an expensive carnival sideshow. They prey on emotionally and intellectually vulnerable people and count on non-critical minds to back them up. Their online "testimonials" might help with creating a sense of fear and "astral attack" threat to bring the cult followers together and keep them in line, but as far as attracting new recruits, well, it comes across as desperate, pathetic and controlling. Not great salesmanship.

It is an old and predictable story told over and over again in history. The SALPOV part in this tale is not a place I would care to be.   

Omnia mutantur, nihil interit.




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 17, 2014, 06:46:49 pm

I think different. I believe that their "occult words and explanation" disguise their psychologically way of work. There is a concept behind, and this concept leads or forces people to (in my opinion) unacceptable way of life, for some people it will be very difficult to break out of this muster circle.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 17, 2014, 10:30:50 pm
i think it's really sad to see what these spezzanos' are doing to people, and i think sturmboe is right it will be extremely difficult for the heavily indoctrinated ones to break out of PoV's grip on their brains, there probably ones like the "advanced trainers" that readily go into "trance so fast to please lency.. they will probably take it to the grave with them.
it doesn't look like the spezzanos will free them or sell them their idea of happiness. what is the goal of the spezzanos?? is it to turn everyone into advanced trainers? so they can as melissa meyer said about first nations- go into their outlying villages and teach everyone PoV so everyone will get along ??
this sure doesn't sound like the promised cultural renaissance as PoV advertised for fn's. i can't see this helping anyone in mainstream society either, what am i missing about this group that makes them any good ?
the spezzanos are unlicensed ,unqualified to fix peoples minds , it looks like they have no qualms about stealing other peoples ideas and presenting it as their own, so far i don't see anything good this group has to offer, at the start of this forum i asked for help to research them .i am so grateful for all the contributors in nafps, i know if there was anything good to say about chuck and lency spezzano it would have been found and posted, yet the spezzanos are so deep in their own denial they cannot even ask themselves questions about what went wrong so they can try to fix it, instead they attack anyone that has an opinion and evaluation they do not like. this sounds like a really unhealthy group to get involved in.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 18, 2014, 12:27:21 pm
SALPOV UK CEO Jeff Allen has posted a 2011 video of Lenora Kay Spezzano giving a presentation in Germany entitled "Awakening." Although it is difficult to endure, it is worth watching for SALPOV cultwatchers and students of the peculiar and bizarre.

http://vimeo.com/98423979 (http://vimeo.com/98423979)

It is graphically a better than normal online definition piece but with strange editing and occasional static in the sound. Although the camera is mostly stationary, with Lenora giving her presentation for the entire 19+ minutes, the cuts and fades are frequent and distracting. It appears to be compiled of sliced audiovisual snips rather than a steady, uninterrupted and sustained thought process. Some of the edits make no sense. Not unlike SALPOV itself!

The SALPOV Triangle the Spezzanos "borrowed" from Bob Trask and made more complicated is in the background. In one rare spot where we can see a few people in the audience, I recognize "Ian" who was subjected to apparent hypnosis in Lenora's Youtube, "Abundance Download."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)

This video has three distinct parts. It begins with the pseudoscience the Spezzanos have lifted from the New Age status quo. Citing "quantum physics" is a tried and true game of smoke and mirrors that has been used and repeated by retail spiritualists for a few decades now. Lenora tries to sound like she has performed original research and is a scientist when in fact she is merely parroting the worn out party line of her fellow illusionists. Real scientists call this "Quantum Flapdoodle." She also talks about the "neuro-net," a topic that comes up frequently in the Youtube "Downloading" gigs.

I think the first part can be entirely skipped. It is just cotton candy and unoriginal blather Lenora has swiped from other sources.

The middle part starts to get interesting. At 7:35 Lenora makes a reference about going to India years before to be mentored. Probably her tip of the hat to Oneness University.

At 8:00 she says--

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The great thing about the feminine aspect of Psychology of Vision is that any healing your POV trainer has attained they can pass on to you at a vibratory level from brain to brain.

Wow. Did I hear that one right? Let's replay that bit--

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The great thing about the feminine aspect of Psychology of Vision is that any healing your POV trainer has attained they can pass on to you at a vibratory level from brain to brain.

Yes. She sure said it.

At 9:00 Lenora addresses the strange feelings you might experience in your cranium after repeated exposure, I presume, to hypnosis, oh, excuse me, I mean  "Downloading/Joining." After going on about feeling shifts and gyrations in your braincase she concludes--

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Don't go to a doctor and pay for a MRI. It's a waste of money. You're just downstream of the Psychology of Vision healing.

No, don't go consult any REAL medical professionals! They'll just tell you that you been victimized by a dangerous cult headed by two unlicensed quacks! And obviously we at SALPOV are always right and never lie. We are the messengers and conduits for Heaven. But if you have to waste money, waste it on us!

It is the final third part of this video where things get really weird. For you veteran SALPOV watchers I would suggest fast forwarding to 9:50 and just watch the rest of it. Lenora reveals a lot of incredibly self-incriminating information on many levels, conscious and otherwise, and gets super intense about it. You can sense the frustrated actress within her yearning to be free. It is quite an entertaining show in an Ed Wood sort of way.

This video poses the question: Is Lenora a cynical grifter, or, is she simply crazy? It could be that Lenora Kay Spezzano will need exit counseling from herself with the help of true professionals.  Does she really believe all that drivel she is spouting? In any case, the posting of this video did not do SALPOV any favours.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 18, 2014, 04:05:49 pm
I believe the spezzano empire is falling apart and they are making these desperate moves to justify themselves and attempt to keep what's left of their flock contained in their narrow mind set.
 Putting out "the truth about Psychology of vision and chuck spezzano" demonstrates how hard up and desperate they are to counteract  anyone's negative opinion, summation and evaluation of them, all it did was make them look even more foolish to those that still have their critical thinking.
Now lency posted this goofy, and again strange 19 minute video of her spewing out nothing but drivel that makes no sense to objective thinkers, I think this is meant for the spezzano non-critical thinking devotees that are programmed and made to have to listen to and follow her. and probably the devotees to spread this to the public to show how dedicated they are and again to be kept locked into the narrow mind set o  are made to think lency made a profound discovery and have to spread the PoV gospel and "teachings"
 i wonder how they can say everything is an illusion in that crazy video, if you go stand out in the freeway and a car comes and hits you that's because you're not an illusion?? why is  lency  telling her devotees this nonsense ? where is this going to take them ??,this could get them in rea trouble, if the advanced trainers in important job positions juggle money from government money for a Pov workshop, is that meant to be an illusion too,  taking money meant for real qualified healing for people and leaving them short of funding is not an illusion, it's mean to the people that really need proper help. mean and selfish, shame on those people that do this.
I also believe the devotees are programmed to believe lency and  to be able to "advance"themselves in PoV. no one can argue or have a different opinion of what lency says, they all have to eat it all up...or else.."they don't get it"and have to keep coming back..no matter what
Maybe lency spezzano herself  is made crazy and insane from all the quantum heaped up bullshit they created from stealing other peoples work and presenting it to the devotees and unsuspecting public as their own.
No matter what happens in the research done on exposing Pov for what they are..I don't think lency will ever go to a real licensed professional psychiatrist or psychologist on her own, they have too big an elitist attitude and ego to lower themselves to seek professional help. They cannot hear or listen to other people's input, it's been proven by their shunning and ignoring of their "participants" cries for help.
 It looks like it's long over due for an intervention to  be pulled on lency spezzano and her "advanced trainers"so they can be properly psychologically assessed for their sanity, who knows this PoV may have made at least one of them insane if not more than one, if one has been driven mad, it is one too many.Maybe that would get the spezzanos' attention that they are harming people and realize people's minds need to be fixed by proper licensed trained health care professionals.  .
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: debbieredbear on June 18, 2014, 05:19:12 pm
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At 8:00 she says--



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The great thing about the feminine aspect of Psychology of Vision is that any healing your POV trainer has attained they can pass on to you at a vibratory level from brain to brain.



Wow. Did I hear that one right? Let's replay that bit--



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The great thing about the feminine aspect of Psychology of Vision is that any healing your POV trainer has attained they can pass on to you at a vibratory level from brain to brain.



Yes. She sure said it.


This fits with the video I saw a few weeks ago where lency was asking someone what she wanted for her birthday and the person, giggling, says she wants lency to download the divine feminine for her. It was creepy and I couldn't watch more.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 19, 2014, 12:52:06 am
In the DVD Chuck Spezzano The Psychology of Vision 2007, a lecture filmed in London, Chuck says "About 92% of all the people in Canadian prisons are First Nations people."

What the hell is he talking about?

Some fact checking:

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In 2007 -2008, 17.3% of the total federal offender population was Aboriginal compared to being 4% of the Canadian adult population. They represented 19.6% of those incarcerated and 13.6% of those on conditional release (parole).  For women, this over-representation is even more dramatic—33.1% of women in federal penitentiaries were Aboriginal.

http://www.oci-bec.gc.ca/cnt/rpt/oth-aut/oth-aut20091113-eng.aspx (http://www.oci-bec.gc.ca/cnt/rpt/oth-aut/oth-aut20091113-eng.aspx)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on June 19, 2014, 01:18:22 am
This fits with the video I saw a few weeks ago where lency was asking someone what she wanted for her birthday and the person, giggling, says she wants lency to download the divine feminine for her. It was creepy and I couldn't watch more.

That "birthday" thing is something Lency does over and over in her videos:  "Today is your birthday and you can ask for ANYTHING you want because God is your father and he is rich".

I agree with you, Debbie -- Creepy.  Very creepy.  (And hard to watch.)

Lency is harder to watch than Chuck, though.  I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could sit through hours of watching her doing her hand waving, face grimacing, teeth grinding -- and not run for the exit.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 19, 2014, 01:31:38 am
it is just as sad as it is sickening to watch what lencey is doing to her willing victims, or pardo me i meant to say her programmed victims, the videos are meant for her devotees and disciples to watch to help keep them to be devote followers, you see the same people over and over again in her sickening videos. they are programmed to think they have to go to these workshops, over and over again and again. i bet these aren;t sickening and creepy for the pov disciples to watch, unless they're starting to get their objective critical thinking back, i don't think this will happen because they are not allowed to think like that.
 a hypnotherapist said it's obvious the're hypnotized and they are programmed to have to listen to her, they have to listen and obey what she and her husband chuck say and the videos are meant to keep them in check and devoutly spreading the PoV gospel. you see how she gives her cues and commands in everyone of her "its your birthday" videos, i think to the victims she is the giant santa clause from the heavens making the victims believe she's giving them something special and what ever they want.
 i believe the hypnotherapist summation/ evaluation of the PoV leaders and their program. lency is nothing but a stage act using the oldest hypnotist tricks in the book.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 19, 2014, 01:59:06 am
I agree, Lency is much harder to watch than Chuck. Yet Chuck is just as dangerous, maybe in a different way, because he looks relatively "normal" as he speaks, yet he says such horrible stuff.  Just finished this long video that is all of Chuck speaking, he starts out right away blaming rape victims for being raped.

Buyer beware. I really feel for any family and friends of people who are caught up in this.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 19, 2014, 02:38:21 am
after hearing horror stories and reading all the documented research, much of it compiled from what the spezzanos published themselves, with all this evidence , how can anyone think anything but that chuck and Lency spezzano are dangerous people, if the spexxanos' are dangerous, then i believe it is safe to say that the "advanced trainers" are also dangerous people to the public, they do hold their own PoV workshops and at the very least a variation of Chuck & Lency spezzanos' "teachings" .
   THE "ADVANCED TRAINERS" ARE EVEN LESS QUALIFIED TO WORK WITH PEOPLES MINDS. the advanced trainers also deceive the public that they are credible and qualified.I reality they and the 100 plus day grads of  are probably even more dangerous than their leaders and controllers Chuck & lency Spezzano.
when you think about these people pretending to be councilors from 100 days of workshops, that is barely over 3 monts of going to a university or college, we all know they take 4 or 2 years to complete to be tested to get your degree.. yet these PoV devotees must be made to believe their PoV 100 day grad certificate is enough to go make money for and with the PoV dogma.   for all the money a person can wast on a worthless 100 day grad cerificate that amounts to nothing more than showing how much you wasted on PoV, you're much better off going to get a proper education, or if you're looking for healing, what is the goal of the spezzanos'? turning you into an advanced trainer ?? then again you're better off to go see a licensed credible professionally educated psychologist than risking your life and sanity with a charlatan
 here is another dangerous example of harming people...a PoV survivor said she finally got brave enough to speak about being sexually abused at a chuck "workshop". chuck told her the reason she was sexually abused is because she was a rapist in her past life..
 we're lucky she's alive today because she turned suicidal after chuck packed up and left, leaving no proper trained people for after care her other than the local "advenced trainer" and a couple of 100 plus days of actual workshop "grads" we all know these people are not qualified to do mental health work,yet some call themselves trauma councelors,life skills coaches to name a few titles
 there are other people having problems from exposing themselves so deeply in the spezzano large group awareness training environment that are speaking up. everyone says the same thing. there is no proper back up care when the spezzanos go to the next place on their circuit.
 there are more and more people coming forward and telling how chuck turns "participants " against family members, it seems common for chuck to turn his victims against the ones they are close tt so they can create his new "family" for them to belong to.
these are definitely not very nice people for anyone to be involved with,
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 19, 2014, 12:09:00 pm
Yesterday Piff made a reference to the DVD Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision (container title: Inspiring Heart, Mind and Soul). This was filmed July 23, 2007 in St. James Church, Piccadilly, London.

This DVD is 90 minutes of Charles Lee Spezzano performing his act to an audience of people who appear to be new to SALPOV. I did not recognize any of the familiar faces. So we are seeing the "gateway" Spezzano here.

Most of the performance is pretty routine for Spezzano-watchers. All problems boil down to guilt, all solutions boil down to love. He used a FN rape victim as his blame-the-victim example. Incredibly insensitive and destructive. The word "justice" is not in the SALPOV vocabulary. I should think activists involved with the movement to stop violence against women would be outraged at the assertions of Charles Lee Spezzano.

Charles exhibited the crude and obscene jokes he is famous for, in a CHURCH, to an English audience of strangers. It didn't go over too well. He kept having to tell the viewers it was OK to laugh. In short, he sort of died.

Toward the end is where the fun starts. Spezzano tells the assembled crowd he is going to perform a "Oneness Blessing," and he adds, "It's just an energy transfer, it's called a Deeksha Blessing."

He does this without pontificating further or defining what it means. What Lenora Kay Spezzano calls "Bliss Music" begins and lights go dim when Charles directs the stage crew (see attached). Then as the music plays, which is never identified but appears to be from India, Charles stands in front with his hands raised, imitating one of his "greatest inspirations," Amma and Bhagavan (see attached).

I figure this DVD was made shortly after Charles Lee Spezzano was finished with his enthusiastic participation in classes at Oneness University. As we can see, OU had more of an impact in shaping the present curriculum of SALPOV than Lenora claims in her recent statement.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 19, 2014, 06:52:31 pm
This 2007 video of a speech in London, I find it appalling how Chuck Spezzano uses stories of First Nations people as a way to sell his product. He acts as if he is an all knowing expert on First Nations history and experience.

Chuck tells a story of a FN woman who had been raped 2 months before the workshop. He says that she was angry and that he told her she had to forgive the perpetrator. Chuck said "any time you are angry, you take that pistol and it becomes a machine gun and you shoot everyone around you" - he mimed the gun use as he said this. He also said that because she was angry, she was committing "emotional rape" on her family.

So, according to him, it was her fault. She was in her victim pattern and it was her responsibility to heal everyone. Chuck says he had her role play this out with other workshop participants, most everyone in the room became triggered and upset, according to Chuck this is apparently a good thing. She was told that she had to heal all the perpetrators, she had to give up her independence and ego (according to Chuck, ego is bad), and apply forgiveness and redemption.

As moreinfo has detailed, the Spezzanos are damaging people, and they especially target FN people.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 19, 2014, 07:24:34 pm
   another one of the things chuck spezzano says is - you wished it on your self ??!!
to me i can't help but think - how in the hell can a 2 year old baby wish sexual abuse on itself, i'm not surprised those poor unfortunate souls that took a chance with chuck and lency spezzano turned suicidal, 
people really need to know about this group and maybe real government health officials need to scrutinize PoV with a fine comb ,
there are reports of ambulance cases for women that attended chucks work over shops because they were having nervous breakdowns from not being able to deal with what chuck exposed in them in front of the group in a community where everyone knows each other. and there is no confidentiality for the victims.
and yet there are people positioned in the communities that still push this cult sickness onto the unsuspecting people, it is really good that there are sites like this nafps to help people to learn about harmful groups and make the people less unsuspecting, public education seems to be the best way to go about dealing with these groups when PoV has mambers in village band councils and health centers supporting them and helping bring more "workshops" into the villages,
they are so brainwashed that they even say"because chuck said" it must be true, weel it sure is being proven that just because chuck said,it is not true or good for people, the deeply devote ones will probably fight to their death and take it to the grave that chuck is the best, because they were made to think that way, those poor victims, some willing victims like the ones writing the glowing testimonials praising chuck don't even know any better or anything else.
brian lynchman called this woman a willing victim and a part of the organization so she's doing this to pleas lency and help recruit for what she called an amazing healing session. hopefully no one in their right mind would want themselves to end up this way and see that it's brainwashing through and through,a doctor said part of their training was to recognize brainwashing, he said it's obvious this woman is brainwashed and this is not healing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY

this is worse that the original colonizers did and it needs to be addressed immediately, 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 21, 2014, 01:14:48 pm


I read a bit in some "view in the book" in the internet parts of C. Spezzonas books.

One problem, I understand it in this way in Spezzonas book view, Chuck Spezzona explains that are just few true emotions, which are mostly be covered by other emotions. Some so called real / true emotions are fear and anger ... guit has another aspect - he reduces and simplify all these emotions and its varieties down to these few emotions, pure and unaltered.
It is true, that secondary emotions cover  primary emotions, but all these emotions are existing.
A person develop secondary emotion for he can better stand by a situation.
I understand Spezzona, as if the covering emotions were nothing more but lies and the originary emotions had to come up to the surface so the person can understand himself better. But in this way I fear this person would just realise a part, something bad in the past he needs to let vanish for getting a better life in future. How can he develop an understandable relationship between the past and actual life? I cannot imagine that this runs. C. Spezzona forces people to sperate themselves. But maybe it is better to learn how to integrate one´s past, a part of one´s life he can never let disappear.  If this would be possible ... tell me, how to live with a black gap in your life?

Emotions are often not in pure forms and often it is so difficult to find those words which can describe correctly what one really feels. C. Spezzona  take these words and leave other speecheless.
Reduced to those "basic true" emotions I can imagine that people can develope an inner emptiness, Often it is very hard to stand by this emptiness and they need other people who lead them in life, who tell them, how to live, what to think, what to chose, ... . Emptiness makes people having fear, being helpless. There is a willing, but no decision-making ability... maybe they think they got no other choice than to be dependent for a help C. Spezzona or someone else gives them. C. Spezzona got easy explaining, maybe it seems chaotic, but maybe just on the surface. This chaotic way doesn´t let people develop an understanding of themselves, but it can fix people in helplesness and dependence.
Life is complex, not always easy to understand, sometimes it is dangerous to walk back on the way, being unprotected.

The guilt of being abused could have another background too: A lot of people who were afflicted by sexual violence learned to be guilty, the offender told them, on their own they feel guilty and dirty, ashamed... It is for them so difficult to learn that they are not guilty, it is a hard way to learn to unite the intellectual knowledge and the feeling of not being guilty. It could be, that they know intellectually they are not guilty, maybe know, that they had no chance to averted this terrible event. But the feeling let some struggle back, time by time and they need to learn again, this comes in little steps in therapies, it needs time, courage and endurance. Also to clearify the emotions, put in words, about what happened. It is hard to find the words when a afflicted person feels speechless. And C. Spezzona forces this feeling of guilt, he deals with the feeling of guilt, and he took the words away other needs to find out, he take away the chance that the afflicted people got the right to be angry, worry, sad, disppointed, ... I hope that afflicted people find a way to get a qualifiyed therapist or psychologist, both needs time, courage and endurance.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 22, 2014, 01:26:06 am
after reading through the research on the spezzanos' and their "spiritual" business, i go back to reading this site about warning signs of dysfunctional cults and fing there are many, many yes answers questions that apply to chuck & lency spezannos high demand (cult) group - Psychology Of Vision.

http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/Warning_signs_of_dysfunctional_cults.html

they also have an indepth look at the oneness university, chuck has stated that this was one of hie 2 founding sources for inspiring PoV... but now time the spezzanos' are denying any association with ou and their inventors,bi=ut there is plenty of evidence to show they are full of shit about any involvement...

http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html

there are people that spent thousands to go attend a 21 day workshop event at oneness u for programming as suggested by the spezzanos if they wanted to continut trying to advance themselves in PoV...

http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html

 one cannot feel anything but sorry and pity for those poor souls that are duped into thinking the PoV is worth anything in the healing field to teach others or made to believe that this is personal healing to better your life.
 I truly hope the devotee deciples can overcome their phobias and get proper trained help to free themselves so they can truly begin to enjoy their lives.
but as sturmboe said  there are people that need to follow, and it will be a difficult task if not impossible for those that have been locked into and indoctrinated into this false belief system , those with 20 or more years of spending money on this group will probably never be able to break free, thinking they are right and on a healing journey and will take it to the grave with them.
a person working in cult exiting said - one of the first signs of someone already locked into the cult mindset is they get mad and protect the leader when questioned or even have any opinion about the group, every person in PoV and the erick gonzalez cult are all very angry people to those that speak up , how can this be called healing?? in any true healing group they're taught how to handle these situations ,every one knows bullying is not healing, yet these PoV and gonzalez devotees express a lot of bullying behavior, some even teaching their grand kids how to give dirty looks , it's strange to see the devotees in health care positions and all other disciples behave like this, are they so programmed that they don't know better, i'm beginning to think so.. it's not fair to the grand kids or people depending on having good people in health care positions.
sad but true. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 22, 2014, 05:55:16 am
Not everybody is innocent. What is someone doing, if he is guilty for something. He can learn to live with his guilt. But he can never cut away, what happened. There is too often the wish: "Make this off, as it would never have happened." This wish is impossible to fulfill.
It doesn´t seem to me POV helps people to learn to live with guilt. In what a situition POV forces them? This would be another aspect to see.

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"one of the first signs of someone already locked into the cult mindset is they get mad and protect the leader when questioned or even have any opinion about the group"
I don´t agree with that. First it is difficult to say if someone is mad or what this "mad" really is, what mental issue. This reaction is also often seen by people who lived for years in families with physical and emotional misuse.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on June 22, 2014, 10:10:55 am
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"one of the first signs of someone already locked into the cult mindset is they get mad and protect the leader when questioned or even have any opinion about the group"
I don´t agree with that. First it is difficult to say if someone is mad or what this "mad" really is, what mental issue. This reaction is also often seen by people who lived for years in families with physical and emotional misuse.

Please. In this context, 'getting mad at someone' simly means 'getting angry'.

Aber bitte. Im obigen Kontext heißt 'getting mad at someone' soviel wie 'auf jdn wütend werden'.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 22, 2014, 11:04:13 am
OK, I translated "mad" directly, do not know this in this context as the meaning "being angry".

Also in this context "being angry" it happen by people who lived for years in families with physical and emotional misuse.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 22, 2014, 01:10:41 pm
In the following Jed McKenna forum on Amazon.com, Lenora Kay Spezzano made a comment which had some very real-world replies--

http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=FxLRL2NAR2SVT1&cdThread=TxCDIWI27KC5F4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=FxLRL2NAR2SVT1&cdThread=TxCDIWI27KC5F4)

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Customer Discussions > Jed McKenna forum

I became enlightened 3 weeks ago...

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Initial post: Aug 4, 2011 3:02:01 AM PDT

Lency Spezzano says:
...and brought 17 other women along with me during a 5 day seminar. The psycho-therapeutic healing technique that I have been developing for 28 years, Joining, is the perfect tool for self-annihilation. The Jed McKenna books and Haunted Universe were a good framework for me to help myself and the others understand the paradigm that we broke into. Since awakening, I have assisted others into enlightenment as well. It takes courage to face the self-hatred, rebellion against God, etc., deep in the mind, but those coming through my work can get a lot of the healing as a "download," rather than having to brave the territory alone. It is challenging, but very doable. Lency Spezzano, co-founder of the Psychology of Vision

Posted on May 30, 2012 7:57:28 PM PDT
Anon_nonA says:
why women ? Weren't there men ?

No offence .. but it kind of sounds fishy..

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 8:07:27 PM PDT
Lency Spezzano says:
Hahaha! It was a women's seminar, but since then men have gone through the process just as well. :)

Posted on Oct 9, 2012 5:24:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 9, 2012 5:27:33 AM PDT
Joey says:
this doesn't sound like enlightenment. it sounds like using concepts from books to mythologize what were likely some darn nice mystical experiences. still, not enlightenment.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 3:34:53 PM PST
Tom B Radar says:
Sounds like an article worthy of The Onion, fool!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 17, 2013 12:15:46 PM PST
Amazon Customer says:
Seeing through the illusion can be facilitated for free by volunteers, and online. And by the way, YOU can't become enlightened. That's sort of RULE #1 of enlightenment, by the way.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2013 10:23:31 PM PDT
overdrive sandwich says:
really getting a kick out of it, huh?

Posted on Sep 17, 2013 9:35:13 AM PDT
Lila Sterling says:
Just can't stop laughing...

A few observations. How many times has Lenora been enlightened? If she was not enlightened until mid-2011, does this mean all her previous teachings regarding spirituality were unenlightened?

The Spezzanos are well-known for lifting the material of others, repackaging it, and calling it their own (Course in Miracles, Oneness University, Louise Hay, Bob Trask triangle, Quantum flapdoodle, etc.)

I am not familiar with the work of Jed McKenna or Steven Norquist (author of Haunted Universe). When I read their works, I wonder if I'll find that many of their concepts have been lifted, twisted, and absorbed into SALPOV?

In checking out McKenna's homepage, I enjoyed this quote--

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I am not the last word on 'Truth' as there is no last word. However, I am rather intolerant of folks who are trying to sell tomatoes from an empty cart.

It would be interesting to hear what McKenna, Norquist, Trask, Amma and Bhagavan, and Louise Hay would have to say about Lenora's "downloading/joining" or "Oneness session" YouTubes.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

Notice Lenora also described her "downloading/joining" as a "psycho-therapeutic healing technique." She is basically calling this psychotherapy. According to Psychology Today, "Psychotherapy" is defined as--

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Psych Basics
Psychotherapy
What is Psychotherapy?

Psychotherapy is the practice of spending time with a psychological professional trained to help diagnose and treat mental and emotional problems. Therapy can take various forms—cognitive behavioral therapy, mindfulness-based cognitive therapy, psychodynamic therapy, or a combination of these—but at the center of each is the caring relationship between a mental health professional and a patient.

Hmm. As any reader of this forum knows, Lenora is not a licensed professional and is not qualified to be inflicting her version of psychotherapy on victims. In many jurisdictions, she could be legally prosecuted for doing so. This might explain why the Spezzanos have not targeted the other 49 of the United States, their home nation. They are fortunate to be living in a state that is especially lax in the area of mental health regulation. Once Hawaii enacts a hypnotherapy law with some teeth, Lenora will be out of business.

By the by, hypnosis is one of the tools of psychotherapy.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 22, 2014, 05:02:34 pm
thx for the correction notice Sturmboe,
i eas referring to the PoV people as being angry, in reality they become very angry when their leadr or group is questioned or even just discussed.
some of the PoV and erick gonzalez people have resorted to threatening people with a summary beating up and one huge mean energied woman threatened someone with her vehicle coming so close to the person that the person had to jump out of her way.
 it's already like these paople live in a commune in their own heads and they always stick together when out in the public together. people notice and talk about them, but they continue to do this, they're the last ones to know how obvious they are.
they not only turn angry and threatening but resort to spreading mean lies about people that speak up. probably thinking they're discrediting the people speaking public education about these groups.
 this is one way that PoV and this group.. is splitting people apart from their families and others in the communities they live in.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.0
 it was a hypnotherapist that said when these people defend themselves and their leader by becoming angry and threatening towards those exposing them, turning angry because they're already hooked and indoctrinated into the cult leaders belief system, i believe what she's saying about them is true, she helps people exit cults and has been doing it for quite a while,
 yes people can get angry for many things, but when spefically applied to a classic cult devotees response, i think it to be one of the true signs of cult involvement, i see it first hand and up close
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 22, 2014, 07:15:45 pm

i eas referring to the PoV people as being angry, in reality they become very angry when their leadr or group is questioned or even just discussed.
 it was a hypnotherapist that said when these people defend themselves and their leader by becoming angry and threatening towards those exposing them, turning angry because they're already hooked and indoctrinated into the cult leaders belief system, i believe what she's saying about them is true, she helps people exit cults and has been doing it for quite a while,


The way how they react is not only taking part in cults. One aspect is the fear. If an offender is brainwashing his victim by telling and showing him that he is the only one who can and will help, if the victim does not obey and fulfill the requirements the offender told, than the victim must be punished, and this is always the blame of the victim, the offender told again and again, he wasn´t the person who wished it, it is the result of the vicit,´s behaviour. An offender can build on his lies a bottom of a fear the victim has to live on and don´t know how to come out of this vicious circle. By the time, the victim believes the offender is right, with the inner knowing, that all this is false and hurting, but it is to dangerous to have look on the truth. There is always the question: "What will happen, when I break out? Is the offender just right? Can I stand by the punish he manace me? When I am punished, am I wrong?" Sometimes it seems for the victim more secure to obey and believe the offender is right - just to be able to survive. There is fear, blame, ... In psychotherapie it could be, the victim got the feeling the therapist want to break down the safty world, fears the punish will maybe come and maybe cannot stand by, and the victim feares he will be punished or die. So it could happen the victim is very angry about the therapist and fighting against.
In therapies the therapist and the vicitm clarify this situation step by step, the victim learns to break out of this circle, learn, what a true safty place really means, learn to decide on his own and being resonsible.
What the hypnotherapist says happen in cults, in some families and in the worst way in satanic cults, world wide organized: trigger, programming, conditioning - brainwash. Brainwash can be such a terrible work, basing on a deep psychological knowledge.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on June 23, 2014, 02:12:41 am
     brainwash. Brainwash can be such a terrible work, basing on a deep psychological knowledge.
   I always thought all BRAINWASHING was something terrible to have happen to you , no matter how good the intentions or how you're programmed and who's doing it to you, we see it all the time in advertisements and commercials trying to sell you a product, but when you have people doing this to vulnerable people for control and profit is disgusting, and to top it off the people are progremmed to protect and promote the perpetuate-rs.
the people that had this done too them ahave a long road in their personal recovery. It's like they are double whammied with something to heal from, many probably were looking for qualified help in the first place, when the end up brainwashed on top of their personal problems , this will be a tough job for them to fix ,what a disaster to end up in
 here is another educated comment about these spezzano people and the advanced trainer from Haida Gwaii..

http://brilyn.net/taking-advantage-of-seeking-a-better-life/




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 23, 2014, 04:36:23 am
Lenora's Enlightenment, Part 1:
 
In my last post I touched on Lenora Kay Spezzano's "enlightenment" of mid-2011.

Enlightenment can come in different forms. It is a very individual thing, and for most of us it is a private and independent awakening, shaped by our own experience. To the Spezzanos, independence = falling away from the inter-dependent Oneness they worship as a result of their experience as devotees of Amma and Bhagavan, the leaders of Oneness University, where Charles and Lenora "borrowed" much of their theology.

To be independent means one is not likely to be a vulnerable client for the SALPOV program. So, independence is bad. Dependence on the SALPOV program is good. And profitable! Critical minds need not apply. Or the poor.

If you are a wage slave, who experiences enlightenment as a result of living on the edge while having to exist on a level where you barely scrape by providing for your loved ones, the Spezzanos don't really want to dirty their soft white hands with you. Nor will they recognize your enlightenment as valid, especially if your version of enlightenment means you can see the Spezzanos are emperors who wear no clothes! Charles charges over $1000 an hour for private consultations. The rabble need not bother applying. "Enlightenment" in the SALPOV world is only for those who can cough up the cash.  Jesus himself couldn't qualify for SALPOV courses because he would've lacked the primary qualification-- lots of money.

You'll notice in Lenora's protestations she does not deny they are about money, she just claims they are about more than that. I submit the "more than that" is just smoke and mirrors and they are indeed just all about money.

It is possible, although I for one remain wary, that Lenora did experience some form of enlightenment in 2011. But what she did with this concept is very capitalist American. Rather than treating her transformation as the sacred and unique happening it should be, she packaged, institutionalized, and marketed it. And then, being the cultural imperialist that she is, she held herself up as a "high priestess" and with the zeal of a Tupperware salesperson attempted to sell it to other cultures. One Haida person calls her efforts "psychocolonization." The real Hawaiians call it "ethnocide," as the Spezzanos have also swiped some of their schtick from the natives of their home state, Hawaii.

In many ways SALPOV is the McDonalds of "spiritual healing," except that it isn't affordable. But it is fast mass-marketed assembly-line junk food for the soul.

Lenora wrote at length about her "enlightenment" and it remains posted. I will bold the more, um, "interesting" passages--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm)

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Lency has been exploring new realms of consciousness in the last few weeks. Here is her experience - posted on her Blog and on Facebook:
Saving the World through Feminine Power
Social Media posts by Lency Spezzano during her extraordinary healing seminar for Women which took place in England this July 2011

WEDNESDAY, JULY 6, 2011
Bringing a new level of the Feminine!
For the last couple of years my dear girlfriends in England, Evie and Avril (and before that, Julie) have made it possible to do a 5 day seminar with just women. The women's seminars are always powerful, deep and special in a way that really can't be described, but I am especially excited to go this time, because I have a great new gift to share. During a deep session with the Buddhist monks and nuns that I worked with in Taiwan in June, one in which we were executing "self" annihilation (especially valued by Buddhists), I went through a very interesting metamorphosis. The only way I can describe it is that it felt like I evolved from a caterpillar to a butterfly - a strange experience. By the end of the session I felt that I had transformed to a different archetypal identity, the High Priestess. It sounds strange as I type it here, but there is a very different feeling to it...like there is a bright light in my head that hadn't been turned on before. So this is the newest "download" that I can share with the women in Bicester. It feels like perfect timing - the next level in Feminine Power. I can't wait to see everyone there!
xxxxxxx
?Lency Spezzano

Letter to my Mastery Program friends

In our Mastery Program, which is open to graduates of the Psychology of Vision 100 Day Program, we are all so close as a community that we group email each other several times a day. We share laughs, our healing process (which is continuous for us as a group), our victories, jokes, wisdom we chance upon, etc. This evening, in Bicester, England, I touched in with my Mastery friends with these words about Day 2 of the Healing the World through Feminine Power seminar:

Missing you all here. This women's seminar is operating at the level of the Mastery Program, for the most part, because of the Trainers, the four Mastery Program girls and me being in the group mind. But the healing is beyond the beyond. We healed the Oedipus issue all the way back to the original separation from God this afternoon, heartbreak after heartbreak. During that process I healed an absolutely tremendous heartbreak I had no idea was buried deep within - the heartbreak that came after my experience of The Holy Instant. To have been transported completely out of the dream of this world, into Oneness with God, and then to have fallen back into the dream, was pain well beyond any worldly heartbreak possible. My brain has changed forever after that healing. Rather than just channeling Heaven's grace, now I can feel God coming directly through me. I can't wait to pass that on to you.

And that was just one part of the day's process; each section was inexpressibly powerful. Earlier in the day, as an example, we discovered how we will save the planet, how the Grandmothers will speak. It is wonderful to have Florence with us here, to have such incredible aboriginal intelligence and leadership from a matriarchal culture. Again, it is just beyond words.

Love you all so much, and feel you with us here. Will keep you informed of our progress.

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? Lency Spezzano

WEDNESDAY, JULY 13, 2011
Feminine Power seminar update day 3

We started the day off with self-annihilation, slaying of the ego. This is something that I have practiced on three groups before. First, when Chuck and I taught a 4 day seminar in Tokyo in early May.

I had gone through the process on my own over four and a half days during that terrible time just after the earthquake and tsunami in Japan and the launch of the war in Libya. It felt like there was some kind of opening in the collective consciousness of the planet, and most people faced the feeling that all the talk about 2012 is true, that something really is going to happen to us on a planetary scale. I believe that what the human race will be going through is ego death, as the vibration or frequency of our existence changes, to become finer and higher. Our egoic selves, our suffering will have to go. For the ego, that is death.


The process of going through self annihilation is shattering. You must face the horrendous self hatred we all have buried inside us, which we glimpse only shallowly when we are most depressed. In this process you must face everything you judge in yourself: every flaw, every mistake, every failure, every mortifying embarrassment, every shame, every imperfection and all of your self disgust. It isn't pretty. You want to kill yourself. You recognize that all the evil you have seen outside yourself is just the projection of your own guilt. As you surrender and accept it all, without resistance, you face the understanding that all of that self hatred was really just disguising the fact that, in fact, you resent God. You discover your rebellion against God. You see that the concept of Satan is only the truth about who you really are. You are in a fight for supremacy with God, and it is a fight to the death. This is what we have really been hiding from. When you accept that and move through it you are so ashamed that you plead with God, beg God, please, please, please, to destroy you. To make it that you never existed. To never even have been a thought in the mind of God. Then, as you let go, and you die, there is God.

After the process you are still you, and still have an ego, but there is a great emptiness inside where before there was self and there was suffering. It is a huge relief. Going through it on your own is a harrowing experience. But if you are led through it in a joining session (the Psychology of Vision's feminine aspect) by someone who has already gone through it, you can get through it much, much more easily.


Because many of the Japanese PoV students are adept at joining (thanks goes out here to how much Master Trainers Hiromi and Hideaki, and the other Japanese PoV Trainers value it) and the Japanese in general have such a good attitude as students, I had the courage to propose it to them that they die. They agreed. I think the influence of Buddhism on their culture made it something they knew to be the true direction.

They were heroic. We did the process over two days, in two afternoon sessions. Two thirds of them (it was a large group, somewhere between 150 to 200 people) completed the process at a more shallow level on the first day, and on the second day one third got all the way through to the same point that I had reached . Every person in the room was glad for the experience.

Next, I tried it on a group of Germans. Half of them said it was the thing they most wanted. No one was willing even to break the surface of the emotion. They stayed in dissociation, but, after 45 minutes, were willing to follow me through something else that I was able to find inside myself and heal - giving up the notion of authority being outside yourself. That in itself was extremely liberating, and it was a triumphant session, but a no-go as far as self-annihilation.

My next chance to try it out on was a group of 70 monks and nuns in Taiwan. I figured I had pretty good odds with them, especially as Trainers Chi-Ching and Joy had made sure they had good training in the joining method. In the two consecutive sessions, which were part of a 5 day seminar, almost all of them got through the process. You can imagine how grateful they were - it's what they are all about.

So this morning, in our group of women (half of them being Trainers and Mastery Program members), with our purpose of coming together to heal the world and make the planetary shift be an easy birth - I knew the deck was stacked in our favor. As we began, I dropped into a new layer of the the pain of the healing process. It was beyond any self attack, but it was horrible just the same. It was desolate, empty separation - an unbridgeable distance between me and God. Unconsolable loss. The women dove in, starting with the self hatred, committed to following me all the way through. I cried and cried until, again, there was God. When the miracle of that hit my mind, I started to laugh the laughter that always comes with a miracle (which is the end result of a joining session). But that laughter turned into a belly laugh that went on and on. I literally screamed with laughter for half an hour (Evie's iPhone captured a lot of it - I have a feeling it is going to become a popular ring-tone in our crowd). 

It was laughing from relief. It was the laughter of getting the joke - the ridiculous notion that this dream of separation from God could be real. All of the women followed me, most rolling on the floor with laughter. There was a great nothing inside them, where they had been before. They got all of the way through the process in half an hour, and laughed their asses off for half an hour, and then it was lunch.

The afternoon started with us facing all of the evils of the world. Every race was represented in the room, and we had access to face the result and reality of genocide, slavery, war and our personal and ancestral guilt for all that has happened. We accepted that the nature of this world is impermanence, and that anything we are attached to will change. So we accepted all change - willing for absolutely EVERYTHING to change - bring it on! With that miracle we took a quick break, and came back...

...to let go of the need to have any control over anything in our lives. To accept the primary tenet of all the great religions, which is to turn over control to a higher power, the way Muslims and Christians surrender to the Almighty. Giving up the role of being the captain of your own ship, and letting go of the tiller of your life so that you can lean back and float down the river of the Great Tao. A young woman led us back to the Garden, before we fell in this lifetime, back to when we were whole, where all was everything. With her we faced the passive aggression that was the reason for the failure and of our lives - our lack of success was an attack on God for not taking care of us. We followed the rage to its end, which was, again, God. Our desire to control fell away, and we once again could clearly and plainly see that everything is perfect! How could it not be? The whole idea that anything wrong could happen was ridiculous, hilarious! What freedom, and ease. Life is a delight. We are back in the garden of our happy childhood.

Tomorrow will probably bring another layer of the self-annihilation process, but who knows? Anything could happen, and it will be absolutely perfect!
xxxxxxx
?Lency Spezzano

THURSDAY, JULY 14, 2011
Day 4 of the Women's Seminar
In the morning session all 17 of the participants and I became enlightened. It was hilarious to do it as a group. I highly recommend it.
In the afternoon we moved on to other issues higher on the PoV Triangle, Heart Enlightenment and Communion.


I have never laughed so much in my life as I have this week. We had a party for the Trainers in the seminar afterwards (and Chuck had joined us from Taiwan). It was so funny to see all the women acting like me...speechless, mindless.  :)  Everyone's sense of humor is so outlandish, and, somehow, everyone now can whistle well, even those who couldn't before. The Tao is so amusing.
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?Lency Spezzano

FRIDAY, JULY 15, 2011
The Final Day
In the morning of day 5, the last day of this year's Saving the World through Feminine Power seminar, I taught everyone how to go into the void - thanks, Peter Evans, for bringing this wisdom into our community. When you go into the void, you drop your identity completely to enter the mirror world that quantum physics says is the fundamental source of this universe. It is the anti-matter, non time and space world in which everything is non physical, and the experiences there are nirvana. It is strange to demonstrate the method to a group of people. You drop your self, go have an experience, and when you come back you have to take a few moments to remember who you are, where you are, and what you are doing. It's like waking up from a coma in a strange place with a bunch of people staring at you.  :)  "What am I doing? Oh, demonstrating the void exercise," I said both times I showed them. So funny.

In the afternoon we healed the Oedipus Complex all the way up through to God the Mother. Receiving love and bonding with the Great Mother that had been known in ancient times, but lost to us, was so powerful. And when that bonding was complete, we received the combined and equal love of God the Father (having healed that side of Oedipus earlier in the seminar) and God the Mother at the same time - thus ending the Oedipus Complex. When that occurred, we integrated the archetype of the High Priestess.

The cherry on top is that tonight is the full moon. We know that we fulfilled our mission. From the enlightened viewpoint we now can see that there is no real world to save, only a virtual one. But in this video game called life, the healing of Mother Earth is a milestone, after which we get to move up a level. We play the game of forgiveness and integration until we heal ourselves enough to wake up in the macrocosmic sense. Then the universe will disappear, and we will get the cosmic joke: we never left our real home of Oneness with God. Until then, the 18 of us will enjoy the video. It is hillarious - the Great Tao has SUCH a sense of humor!
xxxxxxx
?Lency Spezzano

SATURDAY, JULY 16, 2011
Enlightenment is no place to camp :)
Being enlightened is so cool. Instead of feeling the world is real, you experience it as being only virtual, like a very good video game. So everything is easy, and it is so fun having so much of the ego gone. From time to time it still tries to reach up and grab your ass through your old habitual patterns that you haven't looked at and healed yet, but you know what it is trying to do, and you just heal it and it then it is back to the fun.


Enlightenment itself was no place to camp, really. PoV takes us to God Realization. The people stuck in enlightenment get pretty bored just knowing that the universe isn't real. They know it is meaningless as a source of anything of value, but they don't realize that it is the classroom of the Holy Spirit, and that the direction is Heaven, waking up in the macrocosmic sense. So they think there is nothing to do. They don't know the object of the game. The participants in the women's seminar spent one two hour lunch break before we went on to heal the next step. After getting Enlightenment of the Heart, they all said it was great to get God back. Then, in the end, receiving Mom and Dad's love together equally, both in the dream sense and in the cosmic sense out of the dream, was just so explosively sweet and touching.

It is raining in Bicester. My plan to take Alex PJ's dog on a hike to the ponds on the huge estate where she lives in the mews will have to be postponed. I love the English countryside. Last night, from our restaurant window, we saw a hare hop by who was so big it looked like a wallaby!
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?Lency Spezzano

SATURDAY, JULY 16, 2011
The Beloved
The final piece of healing to embody the High Priestess archetype came through in my meditation today. It is recovering the relationship with God as the Beloved.

I played this recording as the intro to the last healing of the seminar. Very powerful. A shout out to Melissa and the Great Tao for providing.  :)
http://www.nityama.com/blog/interview.html
xxxxxxx
?Lency Spezzano

In My Defenselessness My Safety Lies
In the last couple of days I had the chance to coach two of the participants from the women's seminar on how to navigate their lives post enlightenment. Like all the women in the group, their lives are completely different. Although things seem to be the same, nothing feels the same, because everything in their lives has shifted into a virtual reality. They wondered how they would go about living their lives. What about their long term goals? What would they do with themselves now? What about their relationships?

Primarily, they needed guidance on letting go of the habitual expectations and demands they had previously had on their lives. Together we went through the process of recognizing that the world could not provide anything that would or could be a source for satisfaction of desires (and it never really could). It was empty, meaningless in that regard. It was only a video game that would lead them on their journey to awaken from the dream. It was not real, and never had been, and could not give them anything real. For example, if you had always wanted to have a baby, would you still want one, knowing that the baby wouldn't be real? If you had been working up to manifesting a partner, would you still want one, knowing that any needs you have could only be satisfied outside the dream, and not by any partner?

They went through the process of letting go of any habitual demands on the world, and anything they had ever wanted from it. They let it burn away to ash, to nothingness. They let go of any possibility of it providing meaning or sustenance.

And as they did, each got the most beautiful expression on their faces. It was the look you see only on small children who haven't figured out that this world is a dangerous, bad place. It was the look of total defenselessness and innocence. The world could not hurt them, because it could not withhold from them what they desired, or cause them any disappointment. The world was a safe place again.

For all of us an adventure lies ahead of us - discovering what it is like to play the game of life this new way in all the situations of our lives...what will be different, while staying the same?
?Lency Spezzano

Needless to say her fellow participants were all paying customers.

So, what have we learned here? Lenora tells us she embodies the "High Priestess" and can now act as a conduit for God. Also, that she bought into that nonsense about 2012. I was personally acquainted with the late José Argüelles, one of the originators of the 2012 scare, which I consider the New Age version of the Y2K paranoia, and I highly suspect even he would've regarded the Spezzanos as plastic shamans, especially if he had viewed Lenora's "downloading" YouTubes.

I wondered who Peter Evans was and found this website from Portland, Oregon, USA--

http://lifeprinthomeopathy.blogspot.com/ (http://lifeprinthomeopathy.blogspot.com/)

Please note it includes this passage [also, see attached]--

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Psychology of Vision... a powerful release technique developed by Chuck and Lency Spezzano, this method is based on the work of A Course in Miracles and The Oneness University.

Looks like Peter and company didn't get the orders from Hawaii to censor all mention of Oneness University. Hey guys, you better hurry up and goose-step with the program before Charles and Lenora brand you as "rebel shadows"!
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 23, 2014, 04:42:06 am
Lenora's enlightenment, Part two:

Freshly enlightened, Lenora contributed to enlightenment.com. Once again, I have cast the more engaging quotes in bold. It highlights the sense of entitlement and feeling of superiority that comes naturally from someone who was raised as an affluent white American. So incredibly patronizing and self-anointing. I think someone's ego wasn't really annihilated and one look at the self-marketing on the current Spezzano website will prove that.

Well, let us proceed--

http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity (http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity)

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self annihilation process is leading people to enlightenment

    Posted by Lency Spezzano on August 20, 2011 at 9:58pm in Enlightenment Tools, Technologies, and Teachers
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I'm still in the research stage with this, but it appears that in the Psychology of Vision seminars, and in private sessions, we are able to lead people into enlightenment. My first success at this was with a group of 17 women (myself included) in a seminar in England 6 weeks ago. Since then I have done the process with small groups and individuals in person and over Skype video. PoV Trainers who received this process have produced the same results with their students in a seminar in Japan. (In the Psychology of Vision we have 50 Trainers around the world using the healing model that my husband, Chuck, and I have developed.) A very encouraging result. As best as I can tell, we have something of an enlightenment wave occurring.


Permalink Reply by Anthony Glazer on August 21, 2011 at 11:46am
    What are you calling "enlightenment"?

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 22, 2011 at 9:15am
    It's not an experience of mystical higher consciousness, although the base feeling is one of happiness, freedom and gratitude. The main quality of it is an abiding awareness that the world is an illusion, an absolute trust in the unfolding of the Great Tao, a sense of playing along with things as your "character" in the dream, a sense of detachment from events, being in the world but not of it. Ego still comes up at times to bite your ass, but you are immediately aware of it as your lingering ego, and it is easy to dismantle it. New layers can be annihilated as you progress. Less tolerance of bull. No outside authority. You don't do anything you don't want to do. More efficient at work, but little if any attachment to the outcome. Everything is more fun. But primarily, it is a paradigm shift. Although you might get involved in the dream, you never forget that that is all this reality is - a virtual reality.


Permalink Reply by Anthony Glazer on August 22, 2011 at 11:58am
    Thanks

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 22, 2011 at 8:12pm
    There is also a feeling of emptiness that focuses mostly in the belly, as well as the front of the brain. And a mindlessness that I was already pretty used to, but which has made many of the others laugh at themselves a lot. I watched one of our Trainers, who could normally juggle many technological devices at the same time, while multitasking the life of her family and business, not be able to operate her iPhone. She just laughed and put it away.

Permalink Reply by Anthony Glazer on August 23, 2011 at 7:54am
    In my experience these unusual feelings, sensations, changes in awareness happen constantly as we increase our consciousness.  Eventually we develop an intuitive sense as to their significance, although the meaning often doesn’t appear until later, sometimes long after their occurrence.   Many are simply the result of our turning our attention inward and becoming aware of what has already been going on within us.  But many are new, not at all usual to ordinary life, and which emerge in us as we become able to experience them.

    Certainly the starting point for any real change in ourselves has to be the awareness of a Supreme consciousness in and behind everything, and the realization that our physical senses, our normal mode of functioning as humans gives us only a very limited and false experience.  What we live as humans, our experience of being human, isn’t an illusion in the sense of being unreal, but in the sense of being limited, partial, distorted, false.       

    Enlightenment in one way or another is the process of moving out of this limited human consciousness which traps us, in a sense, and emerging into a higher, greater consciousness, one increasingly closer to that of the Supreme consciousness.  Because there are so many different aspects of this Supreme consciousness, and endless gradations of them, there have developed many different spiritual paths, and also many different views of what enlightenment is, or isn’t, all of them playing different roles throughout human history.

    This often makes very confusing any attempt to find our way through the myriad of traditions, paths, teachers, gurus and what not facing us today.  And although nearly any of them can be a starting point, ultimately we have to develop the capacity to do several things.   The first is to detach ourselves from our thoughts, feelings, emotions, even physical sensations, and watch everything going on in us without any reaction.   For most of us this is very hard to do at first.     

    We are used to identifying with this chaos of activity within ourselves, all the pleasure and pain that goes along with it, and as a result we suffer and have all of the problems of being human.  Because we are so used to it--in fact this normally represents to us our reason for and mode of existence, it is very difficult to change.  The techniques you and many other teachers offer are methods to help us do so. The process of letting go of all this identification is of course the source of seemingly endless difficulties, seemingly endless discussion, and seemingly endless work for numerous healers, guides and teachers.  The process is long and troublesome because of the strength of our old ways of functioning, the intensity of the habits we carry with us, developed not just in this life, but over many lives.

    But as we are able to detach ourselves from all of this inner activity, the attachment to life as we normally see it, we begin to be able to experience some of the larger consciousness behind it, and of which we are normally unaware because it is blocked by this activity, such as peace, joy, and freedom from the concerns and stresses of ordinary life.  We often begin to be aware of our non-physical senses, of the many non-physical forces and beings acting on us and through us of which we are normally unaware, even of the many non-physical worlds and planes of existence and their influence on the world around us.

    And as we are able more and more to live in this calm state, we also begin to be aware of some consciousness, some intelligence guiding us, not usually in words, but in an awareness, a kind of intuitive sense of things, of what should be done, should be said, of the why and meaning of many things in our life and that of others.  This is the Guide we have to learn to follow, this quiet voice, this awareness, eventually even as a spontaneous action, and which only comes in its purity within a calm internal state, free from all human thought, emotion and reaction.   

    As we increasingly let go of all of our attachments to life, we are able more and more to live constantly in our state of peaceful bliss, without need of all of the constant activity and diversions that most of humanity finds so necessary and appealing.  We no longer require much of anything outside of ourselves, and we only need to act when circumstances impose themselves on us, or we receive the impulse to do so from the inner Guide.     

    But this is not our final goal, or merely a preparation for the eventual movement out of the body into some non-physical state of bliss, as is taught in so many spiritual traditions.  Rather it is the base, the foundation for the development of a different kind of consciousness, a different kind of existence, a different form of functioning completely outside anything in human experience.  What you have described here is certainly a necessary step in that direction.

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 23, 2011 at 8:33am
    Right, it's a process. What you are describing is what, in our model, we would call evolution toward God Realization, which is the ultimate goal we are moving toward. In the description I shared earlier, I described the qualities of the shift we have just settled into on our map - enlightenment. It's not the end all; it's just a marker along the path. It is, however, a pretty profound shift compared to the daily steps toward maturity we make, or even the great breakthroughs. It's a radical shift, a huge relief. And, if a person has a lot of emotional courage, and some training, they can accomplish the process pretty quickly. It takes a willingness to die, and a deep desire to end everything that is false about you. It is really not a pretty sight when you look at and digest the horrendous self loathing that is our ego.


    My husband and I are currently working with a group of 90 people in Guangzhou China. Most of them are beginners to my work, so it will be interesting to see how far I can get with them. They are keen to get enlightened, but their level of maturity is low. [Sandy S. interjection: Oh my God! Can you believe this?!?]

Permalink Reply by Anthony Glazer on August 23, 2011 at 11:48am
    But even the ultimate goal of what you are calling God Realization is itself a process: that is, it is not a goal in the sense that we understand it, but rather the eventual movement out of the finite human existence, into the complete consciousness-power of the infinite, of the Supreme on all levels, acting through an individual form in an endless process of self-evolution. This is something that is beyond the human capacity to conceive or experience in any but a very limited way, something that is beyond any spiritual tradition or realization, something that is beyond anything existing on Earth or anywhere else in the universe at present.  Yet it is something that we are moving towards, or rather being pushed towards, and so we need to be aware of it to the extent that we can.  I am not writing lengthy responses to your posts because I enjoy doing so, or I necessarily think that you don’t already understand much of what I say, but rather because your posts touch on important points that in my view need to be clarified.     

    Spiritual development, inner development of the sort we are talking about here, is no longer an option for humanity; it is a necessity, or will be increasingly so as the world conditions inevitably deteriorate, confronting us with innumerable personal and collective crises of many sorts, crises which will more and more be beyond the capacity of traditional human means to solve, whether individually or collectively.  What we are doing by teaching these methods is not just presenting some means for achieving individual happiness or contentment, although that is part of it, but rather teaching how to move ourselves out of the limited experience and power of the human, into an alignment with the infinite power of Divinity.  The extent we can change our consciousness will determine our capacity to adapt to changing world conditions, to move through the inevitable turbulence and difficulties no matter where we are, no matter where we live or in what conditions.     

    Certainly even the awareness of the dynamics we are talking about represents a profound shift in the normal human view of things, and the capacity actually to make the change varies enormously.  What is ultimately being demanded of us is a complete transformation of the human personality, something which none of us, no matter how strong our will, how great our dedication, can accomplish in any short or painless way.  Nonetheless everyone, if they have a real inner need, a sincere will, can make constant progress toward it, even developing the necessary persistence, patience, endurance, strength, courage and trust in the Divine Guide that they don’t have at the outset.  I have seen remarkable examples.

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 23, 2011 at 4:39pm
    I agree with what you are saying. It is why we have the schedule we have, working around the world with as many people as we can, and working with the collective unconscious as well, at every opportunity.     

    I have had many mystical experiences, the most profound being an experience of Oneness with God that was, in my estimation, a brief experience of our true, ultimate reality. It was outside of the physical universe, outside of time and space. It is awakening from the dream at that level that is my goal. Anything within the dream is just a means to that end, just a lesson for reintegration and forgiveness that will heal the belief in sin, guilt and fear that tie us to our idea of separation.     

    Enlightenment, per se, isn't mystical in itself. It's a paradigm shift. I think Jed McKenna does a very good job of defining what enlightenment is and is not in his Enlightenment trilogy. Have you read that, Anthony?       

Permalink Reply by Anthony Glazer on August 23, 2011 at 6:53pm
    I've only watched a few of his videos.       

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 24, 2011 at 8:35am
    Oh, no kidding? I highly recommend them. The first one is Spiritual Enlightenment, the Damndest Thing. A very engaging read.  :)   

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 26, 2011 at 8:57am
    I did the first annihilation process with the Chinese group, and despite being new to the work, they did very well. As well as a group of Buddhist monks and nuns in Taiwan, and better than the Japanese and Germans I have done the process with. On Sunday I will do another self-annihilation process and an enlightenment download.

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 28, 2011 at 7:50pm
    The Chinese did excellently on the second annihilation process and the enlightenment download they received on the last day of the seminar here. Almost everyone got through. I wish I could speak and write Mandarin, so I could get feedback about how they are feeling today. I'm sure I will get some feedback eventually. But they did tell me yesterday that they felt a great sense of emptiness and freedom after the first annihilation session two days before. Seminar participants in China are an interesting mix of people. More billionaires as well as mafia dons than we see in any other place. I wouldn't have dreamed that I could talk about God and all things spiritual here, but it works because I am not promoting any particular religion or cult. And the people are so hungry for it. This is the place we feel our work is most needed, in the grand scheme of things.

I'm still in the research stage with this, but it appears that in the Psychology of Vision seminars, and in private sessions, we are able to lead people into enlightenment.
My first success at this was with a group of 17 women (myself included) in a seminar in England 6 weeks ago. Since then I have done the process with small groups and individuals in person and over Skype video. PoV Trainers who received this process have produced the same results with their students in a seminar in Japan. (In the Psychology of Vision we have 50 Trainers around the world using the healing model that my husband, Chuck, and I have developed.) A very encouraging result. As best as I can tell, we have something of an enlightenment wave occurring.

Permalink Reply by Lency Spezzano on August 30, 2011 at 4:47am
    I got this feedback from a woman from Switzerland that I did an individual session with on the enlightenment process over Skype video. No feedback yet on how the Chinese group did.     

    Dear Lency,

    I am really happy. I feel in a flow and there is one major difference. If something happens or I do a mistake I don't feel guilty. It is a great relief, and I can easily accept how things are. The ease is also because I have no fear and worries anymore. Therefore my relationship with my husband and my children feels peaceful :-)

    I am conscious when the ego jumps in but it is not a problem.

    Thank you sooo much for your help and guidance
    Love xxxxxxx


    ?Lency Spezzano

I cannot find the "research" supposedly conducted by Lenora in any professional journals. Like everything else about SALPOV, they are accountable to no one and respond to all criticism with either silence, deleting the online evidence, posting outright reactionary untruths (as we have very ably documented on this forum), or making legal threats. I suspect the only research conducted by Spezzano and Associates is economic; how they can improve their profit margin by ripping off the latest New Age fad. That seems to be their "soul pattern."

"Less tolerance of bull"? Then how can Lenora tolerate herself? "No outside authority"? Well, at least that part is consistent. The Spezzanos have been very adept at sidestepping government regulatory agencies and avoiding all responsibility for the consequences of the pain they have caused. I still maintain they should foot the bill for SALPOV survivor exit counseling, especially in British Columbia. But according to Lenora that is all just a virtual video world and not real. How very convenient.

But wait a minute, here I am trying to apply logic to the policy of a couple of grifters. Every charge will be met by some doubletalk. As we have demonstrated many times on this forum nothing either of the Spezzanos claim can be taken at face value. And when we catch them in a lie they just counter with another lie as evidenced by Lenora's recent online broadside ironically entitled The Truth About Chuck and Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision.

Becoming enlightened is just part of being alive, and every individual has their own independent way of finding it. You don't need the self-appointed "high priestess" at the expensive for-profit SALPOV to shepherd you.   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 29, 2014, 11:47:29 pm
The academic credentials of Charles Lee Spezzano has been a topic of conversation in this forum in the past. In examining a copy of his PhD dissertation, even more questions can be raised and further falsehoods in Lenora Kay Spezzano's "Truth" rant are revealed.

The "Dr." prefix used so often by Charles Lee Spezzano is an academic, not medical, title. He earned a PhD. in "Professional Psychology" from United States International University in San Diego in 1977.

At the time he was awarded this degree, the school was not accredited by the APA, hence this degree alone would be useless by most hiring authorities. In his LinkedIn page, his own SALPOV webpage, and in Lenora's recent "Truth" screed, we are told Charles Lee Spezzano's degree is in "Counseling Psychology."

But as we can see by the attachment this is not true.

So we have found yet another Spezzano lie to add to the long list of SALPOV misrepresentations.

This is not a trivial detail. It is important. In the academic world this is called Faking Your Academic Credentials and would result in being let go. Kicked out. Fired. For Lying.

Is there a difference between a degree in "Professional Psychology" and his claimed "Counseling Psychology"? Apparently there is. It looks like it varies from school to school, but it would appear the former is more generic, academic and quirky in nature, while the latter has more medical gravity. Plus, the former is somewhat more unusual. At USIU I am guessing this was sort of a made-up interdisciplinary degree and presented as an innovation at the time. Not a bad idea, actually. So why are the Spezzanos running away from it? I thought they liked the "cutting edge"? I am truly mystified.

The thesis is entitled The Words That Love Made--A Poetic Phenomenology of the Poet's Experience in Being a Poet. As far as I can see this effort did not involve any field work or medical research. Rather, it reads like a term paper required for a Masters Degree in Literature program, generously padded for thickness with lots of poetry by famous poets, and some poetic prose by Charles himself. Indeed, the library holding the copy I am reading has used the US Library of Congress classification PN1031, which is for poetry, not psychology.

Most dissertations make for dry reading, and this one is no exception. I won't even try to critique the content, but it seems clear Spezzano feels an allegiance to Jung. I am not a Jungian, but that is beside the point. Our problem with SALPOV is, as Grifter's Hotel always said, about behaviour, not belief.

There are some parts of this thesis that might be of interest to SALPOV watchers everywhere. Here's a passage from leaf 38--

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The investigator's interest in the poetic path as a healing path came as a result of his work as a counselor. For the last three and one-half years, he has worked as a psychologist for the Federal Government at the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center at NAS Miramar, San Diego, California.

Let me get this straight. He doesn't have his PhD yet but he is already a "psychologist"? This Navy=psychologist claim is repeated even today on YouTube, his own current SALPOV webpage (see attached), and in Lenora's "Truth" screed (in the same document she claims "I have never heard him refer to himself as a psychologist." Oh how nice it must be to live in such denial). I'm confused. Even after he was awarded his doctorate, he still couldn't legally (in the United States) call himself a "psychologist," so what gives? I sense a semantic shell game taking place here.

It seems that many people who hold a PhD in "Professional Psychology" had to get a second degree or go through significant continuing education before settling into private practice as a true professional. Spezzano's only post-PhD education was attending classes at Oneness University in 2007, quoted as one of his two "greatest inspirations" but became an educational activity which was purged from his LinkedIn resume and other websites early this year for some reason.

He's not a clinical psychologist. He's not a counseling psychologist. He's not any kind of psychologist. He is, as he and Lenora will both tell you, a "coach." So wouldn't it be more accurate to call their for-profit enterprise "Coaching of Vision"? 

So what has Charles done with this fabulous education other than make fools of vulnerable wealthy people? Well, we have these fine writings from his collaboration with Janie Ticehurst in the Healing Metaphors--

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Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.

Classy, isn't it? Diarrhea is a major killer in the world of poverty. But that passage is not nearly as offensive as the next one. Asian readers please take special note--

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Down's Syndrome

Down’s syndrome is a congenital abnormality (one that is present at birth). It is the result of having an extra chromosome in our genetic make-up, usually number 21 or 22.

Down’s causes moderate to severe mental retardation, oriental appearance of eyes, flat nose or absent bridge of nose, a single palmer [sic] crease on a short broad hand and a dwarfed body.

If we have Down’s syndrome, it means that we have come to learn some lessons at a soul level. We are here to seek soul fulfillment and the completion of a cycle, yet we are stuck in the transition between the old level and the new.

The two main soul lessons of Down’s syndrome are correcting over-willfulness and giving up the ego’s plan in exchange for heaven’s plan.

If Spezzano's fellow American Madison Grant was alive today I am sure he would've heartily endorsed SALPOV's view of human frailties, foibles,  race, and birth defects. Like I said, I am not a Jungian, but I wonder what Carl would've made out of the Spezzano/Ticehurst definition of Down's Syndrome?

Remember what SALPOV cult follower Jeremy Marchant wrote before it was mysteriously vanished from Internet--

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"A primary source of emotional intelligence at work‘s EI material is based on Psychology of Vision, as developed by Chuck Spezzano.  This takes a largely mainstream post-Freudian approach [see, for example, Eric Berne, A layman’s guide to psychiatry and psychoanalysis] and elaborates it with extensive borrowings from other sources of which Carl Jung, NLP and transactional analysis are the most obvious. Chuck’s genius is to keep the complexity but hide it from the client (unless the client is interested in it) so as to provide a powerful transformational approach."

That isn't all Charles would hide from the client.

Somewhere, on another plane of existence, Carl Jung is probably puking his guts out.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on June 30, 2014, 05:45:45 pm

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Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.


Many deseases got in the psychosomatic its relationship between somatic, physis and psychic reactions. In these keys there are little wellknown details but they are not coherent to the psychological issue that it is understandable - but some can reflect themselves.
People with eating disorders, Bulimia nervosa or Anorexia nervos, who are abusing laxative have got an psychic issue: A lot of these people got not a good relationship to their own body, not to them as a person. Eating disorders are a way for a self - destructions like suicide step by step.


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Diarrhea
There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.
Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.

In these both sentences people with eating disorders basing of a psychological issue can reflect themselves. POV claimes on, they had to take a deep look why they hide from their problem. But how this reflecting will go its way by POV I fear this could end in a catastrophy.

Chuck Spezzona tells he is just a coach, and this means (maybe?) that he got no intention to help in a pschological way. Coaching is much easier, with a distance to individual substantiated treatment, people can use his advises and what then happened is another matter, but not more in the responsibility of POV

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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 02, 2014, 02:44:52 am
Occasionally I'll run across references where Charles Lee Spezzano was the performer at a wedding ceremony and marry people (e.g. Michael North).

Anyone know under what religious authority he delivered this service?

According to the Hawaii Dept. of Health--

https://emrs.ehawaii.gov/emrs/public/registration.html
 (https://emrs.ehawaii.gov/emrs/public/registration.html)

 
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There are four types of marriage and/or civil union performers in the State of Hawaii ...

    Religious

    Religious Marriage Performer

    Minister, priest, or officer of any religious denomination or society who has been ordained or is authorized to solemnize marriages according to the usages of such denomination or society, or any religious society not having clergy but providing solemnization in accordance with the rules and customs of that society (HRS §572-12)

    Religious Civil Union Perfomer
    Any ordained or licensed member of the clergy (Act 1, section -4(b), Session Laws 2011)

   Judge

    Judge for Marriage Performer
    Any justice, judge or magistrate, active or retired, of a state or federal court in the State (HRS §572-12).

    Judge for Civil Union Performer
    Any judge or retired judge, including a federal judge or judge from another state who may legally join persons in chapter 572 or a civil union, (Act 1, section -4(b), Session Laws 2011)

Obviously Spezzano falls into one of the first two categories. Anyone out there know the details? Was it via his association with the Unity Church, which is quickly becoming the American front organisation for Oneness University in many cities? Example below--

http://unityhouston.org/get-involved/oneness-ministry/oneness-travel-program/ (http://unityhouston.org/get-involved/oneness-ministry/oneness-travel-program/)

Here is the text of Hawaii Revised Statutes 572-12

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572-12 By whom solemnized


A license to solemnize marriages may be issued to, and the marriage rite may be performed and solemnized by any minister, priest, or officer of any religious denomination or society who has been ordained or is authorized to solemnize marriages according to the usages of such denomination or society, or any religious society not having clergy but providing solemnization in accordance with the rules and customs of that society, or any justice or judge or magistrate, active or retired, of a state or federal court in the State, upon presentation to such person or society of a license to marry, as prescribed by this chapter. Such person or society may receive the price stipulated by the parties or the gratification tendered.

Hawaii Revised Statutes - Division 1: Government - Title 31: Family - Chapter 572: Marriage - Part 1: Requisites, Procedures [CC 1859, §1285; RL 1925, §2950; am L 1929, c 104, §6; RL 1935, §4640; RL 1945, §12361; RL 1955, §323-12; HRS §572-12; am L 1969, c 19, §2; am L 1974, c 15, §1]

It would be good to know the theological foundation and qualifications of Charles the wedding performer.




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 04, 2014, 03:46:56 pm
Today the USA is celebrating "Independence Day."

Since the Spezzanos regard "Independence" as a negative attribute, I'd like to extend the meaning of this American holiday to celebrate the SALPOV survivors worldwide who had the courage to turn around, walk away from this personality cult, and get their lives back. There is much more to living than feeding the Spezzano bank account.

Happy Independence Day! Welcome back!

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 12:42:44 pm
I am sure a lot of the nuances of the original meaning of the following post have been lost in the not always accurate Google translation, but in some ways it has produced some gems. I particularly like the mention of Charles Lee Spezzano "guiding thousands of dollars in therapy groups and individual talks ..."

Here's a link to the original--

http://pov.tw/events/49%E6%9C%88%E7%94%9F%E6%B4%BB%E5%8A%A0%E6%B2%B9%E7%AB%99%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E6%9C%83-4-2014-07-09/ (http://pov.tw/events/49%E6%9C%88%E7%94%9F%E6%B4%BB%E5%8A%A0%E6%B2%B9%E7%AB%99%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E6%9C%83-4-2014-07-09/)

And here's the Google translation. Highlights are mine--

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From April to September, "life stations" Sharing
July 09 perception association activities no comments

Date / Time
Date (s) - 2014/07/09
6:30 pm - 9:00 pm

Address
China Wenchang activity center in Delhi

Category

    Perception association activities


Our lives will have many big and small problems or doubts, bring emotional ups and downs that we hope to share their feelings through stories and the life course, in emotional self-healing process, providing mutual support and full of energy companionship, witnessed the courage and extraordinary life.

Leading: percent of seniors who know see

Date: Every second and fourth Wednesday of each month at 6:30 pm to 9:00 twice.

04/09, 04/23; 05/07, 05/21; 06/11, 06/25, 07/09, 07/23, 08/13, 08/27, 09/10, 09/24

Location: Wenchang Road, Shihlin District, Taipei City 211 Edward Wenchang Activity Center

Reference: dedication

Introduction

This book is a book full of practical wisdom, Chuck. Dr. Spiegel Sanna his thirty years of counseling experience, this book will bring to the unity of our hearts. The book describes how to fragment our hearts are obstacles in our lives ? ? We are frustrated by the bitter reality, words and deeds toward just another tragic ending.

This book will give us strength, indicating the end of our lives are all sorts of personal choice, how can we use our right to choose to let their thoughts and outer life one. This book provides tools we need to change in order that we can enjoy more for long life and enjoy the love, everyone can be released from the pain via treatment and understanding.

If you read this book, if you really ?? exercise book, one thing is guaranteed that you will no longer blindly toward broken hearts again. This book allows you to regain your strength and your heart, your heart is a fountain of life happiness.

About the Author

Chuck. Spitzer Sanna (Chuck Spezzano, Ph.D.), Psychology of the founders.

Dr. Counseling Psychology American International University in San Diego, in 1972 began his career counselor to family therapy, marital counseling, child counseling professional background, guiding thousands of dollars in therapy groups and individual talks and addiction treatment had planned workshops, and served as a psychologist in California Naval addiction center.

Twenty years ago, he was inspired by "A Course in Miracles" (A Course in Miracles), and the reference to Gestalt therapy (Gestalt Therapy), hypnosis (Hypnotherapy), neurological linguistics (NLP) and other principles of treatment, and wife Nancy (Lency) jointly developed the emotional and spiritual treatment approach ? ? perception psychology. At present this method has been held in many international seminars, workshops, training courses, and Chuck spend more than two hundred days a year traveling around the world teaching.

Now, more than nine countries translated Chuck over 20 books, including the popular was "hurt, not love." The past 10 years, Chuck and more people will look to focus on business achievements and difficulties, he believes the new century, for-profit companies should not only target, but to be able to fully realize the meaning of life and the purpose of life. Chuck and his wife currently live in Hawaii Ohana island.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 07:51:27 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 1

The time has come for us to systematically address Lenora Kay Spezzano's recent online document where she attempted to answer the growing number of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) critics and gain some spin control. My reproduction of her text is for the purpose of nonprofit review, consumer education, and providing even more leads for law enforcement and the media.

Although in the legal notice colophon the website owner is identified as Spezzano and Associates Ltd. (not Psychology of Vision-- interesting, isn't it?), the entire work has a running note in the bottom margin-- "Copyright © 2014 The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision." This would suggest the "The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision" is yet another independent entity. Did they file Articles of Incorporation under that name in Hawaii? Otherwise this copyright statement is useless.

www.the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com (http://www.the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com)

As simple citizen investigators from several different nations, we do not have the resources of law enforcement or professional media, but we have done our best to gather available evidence to educate the public about the SALPOV cult. We are aware both law enforcement and some media are using the information we are providing. The horse is out of the barn.

So let us embark on this granular examination of Lenora's reaction--
 
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Introduction   

Hi – I’m Lency Spezzano, and if you are reading this, it may well be because your search engine led you to a blog that is claiming peculiar things about my husband Chuck and myself, and the Psychology of Vision. Normally, we would not respond to Internet attack; unfortunately, the level of zeal involved in this libel is so high, and the accusations are so bizarre, I feel we need to respond with the truth, in support of the many thousands of people around the world that are doing the Psychology of Vision work, who could be hurt by the slander in some way.

Notice the words used here: peculiar, attack, zeal, libel, accusations, bizarre, slander. And that is only in the first paragraph! She is rounding up the wagons against those heathens and instilling a sense of fear in her cult followers to keep them in line. Objective non-cult viewers will immediately see this for what it is. From this point on Lenora has given up on recruiting new people, she is merely trying to defend the profit margin supplied by the vulnerable people who bought into this SALPOV fantasy.

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The attacks on us claim:

"That Chuck and I have falsified our educational background information; that we have created a cult so we could be worshipped as its leaders; that we damage vulnerable people in our seminars in assorted terrible ways; that we have targeted Indigenous people for financial gain; that we are simply cons running a scam for money, and other complete falsehoods."

She has the above passage in quotes, which is strange since the original source is nowhere online. Perhaps it exists in an as yet unreleased legal document to be served on us critics. But in fact the educational background of both Spezzanos has been falsified by their self-purged mention of attendance at Oneness University in 2007, and the fact is Charles does not have a PhD in Counseling Psychology as SALPOV websites claim, according to his dissertation it is "Professional Psychology." Unaccredited by the APA, I might add. The English language POV Trainer's Manual, which has been deleted online after we brought attention to it, clearly proves SALPOV is a personality cult. The German POV Trainer's Manual disproves her First Nations claim. I don't think the Spezzanos are "simply cons running a scam for money." I think that in addition to that they enjoy the ego/power trip. Lenora's YouTubes confirm that last point.   

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These deceptions have been picked up and spread by individuals who are hiding behind false identities, so as not to be accused of, or charged with, “cyber-harassment.” [1] Acting as if their motivation were to protect the vulnerable, rather than to intentionally do harm, the various bloggers combed through our past looking for anything to use against us, and when they couldn’t find anything improper, they started inventing improprieties out of thin air. The attackers invented malicious quotes, supposedly written or spoken by us, falsified input from “experts” and even fabricated names of books we have supposedly written. The people who engineered this campaign against us have never met us or attended any of our seminars, and they know no person who has been damaged in our seminars. I can say this with confidence, because I am certain that we would have heard about such an occurrence if it happened. We would have received negative feedback on the seminar feedback form, as well as feedback from our Trainers who live in that community and were friends with all the participants.

First off, many people who have bad experiences with both Spezzanos throughout the past do not want to be identified. Apparently the Spezzanos are known to be vindictive and prone to tantrums. And some of their followers are not any better. Those of us who are SALPOV watchers are in possession of more information than we can make public because we do not want to screw up the lives of our sources. I'll just say the world of SALPOV and those who have been in the Spezzanos' wake is not entirely comprised of obedient zombies. The spark of critical thinking keeps the fire of human individualism alive.

Also, there are several SALPOV critics over the last few years who have used their real names. At least one of them had to contact the RCMP over threatening emails from an unbalanced SALPOV devotee.

Second, the whole cyber-harassment charge is a non-issue. SALPOV is in the public arena. Free speech is free speech. It amuses me that an organisation that has skirted around the law for so long in terms of avoiding government regulations and licensing is suddenly quoting it to defend themselves. "Free speech for me, but not for thee." Interesting they quote a USA source but sent their bogus legal letter to Canadians.

Third, this quote: "Acting as if their motivation were to protect the vulnerable, rather than to intentionally do harm, the various bloggers combed through our past looking for anything to use against us, and when they couldn’t find anything improper, they started inventing improprieties out of thin air. The attackers invented malicious quotes, supposedly written or spoken by us, falsified input from 'experts' and even fabricated names of books we have supposedly written."

Actually we found a lot that was improper. And we are generously sharing it with people more powerful than ourselves in several countries. No authorities have told us our data is unwelcome. As for the rest, Lenora needs to provide examples of the supposed inventions, falsified input, and fabricated book titles. Personally, I have no idea what she is talking about.

Fourth, we have dealt with this claim earlier on this forum: "The people who engineered this campaign against us have never met us or attended any of our seminars, and they know no person who has been damaged in our seminars. I can say this with confidence, because I am certain that we would have heard about such an occurrence if it happened. We would have received negative feedback on the seminar feedback form, as well as feedback from our Trainers who live in that community and were friends with all the participants."

This is Lenora living in denial. Apparently she didn't watch the APTN broadcast and does not follow the data presented on this forum by people on Haida Gwaii. I attribute this to her wealthy upbringing, where the problems of little people do not register on her radar. But my comrades might have another opinion.

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The original attackers are doing this to us – as best as I can tell – not because there is any form of evidence that we have done anything wrong, but as a political means of hurting the feelings and reputations of certain First Nations elders and leaders who have been our friends and supporters of our work for over 20 years; it hurts our friends if the attackers hurt us. The attackers want the Psychology of Vision work to not be helpful to Residential School Survivors, and other First Nations people. But the Psychology of Vision is nothing like what they claim. It has proven to be very beneficial to Residential School Survivors, as well as other Canadians (click to see letters of support from First Nations and other Canadian students of PoV Canadian Testimonials). just as it has been helpful to people all around the world. The Psychology of Vision does not replace cultures with a new culture, it leverages people on the spiritual path they are already on. (Click on this link to see a short story describing one example of First Nations Residential School Survivors’ healings ? The Miracles of Forgiveness)

And here Lenora plays the victim. In SALPOV, if you are victim that means you brought your malady upon yourself because you are guilty of something. So according to SALPOV doctrine we troublemaking critics are playing a role we are destined to play in helping liberate the cult followers so they can join the rest of us in the real world. And the problem with this is-- what?

Oh. Wait a minute. I forgot. The problem is this-- it interferes with the Spezzano & Associates Ltd. profit margin.

Speaking personally, I was interested in the Spezzanos before I knew about their presence on Haida Gwaii.

The testimonials are about as valuable as cheap "zombie points" in a video game. There is no one in there with any respected objective, academic, cultural, or government credentials. The whole point was to round up the cult followers and have them give a loyalty pledge. And it plainly comes across that way.

"The Psychology of Vision does not replace cultures with a new culture, it leverages people on the spiritual path they are already on." Excuse me? How does annihilating the ego and performing Deeksha blessings fit into Haida culture? This is a very arrogant and Ugly American colonist statement. It was this kind of thinking that got the USA into Vietnam, and maybe Haida Gwaii will be the Vietnam for SALPOV. 

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It is a strange position to be in, to have spent your entire career in the helping field, to have received honors and appreciation from people and organizations around the world for your work (for example, see endnote)[2] and ultimately, in your sixties, have people who do not even know you do everything they can to ruin you and your family.

My question is-- how were they able to get away with this nonsense for so long without being held accountable by governments or the press to a greater degree?

The example award presented to Charles Lee Spezzano was given by group headed by his buddy, Michael North, making this an insular recognition. 

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Many of the attacks accuse us of targeting First Nations people for financial gain. In actuality, rather than “take” money from First Nations, Chuck and I have donated around 30 3-day seminars to First Nations communities over the last 20 years, and have brought $1.5 million USD of donations to BC in their support. All of the Internet attacks against us have been this far off base.

Read the German language POV Trainers Manual, Section K. We'll get into more detail as we go along.
 
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References and Footnotes

1. States have enacted ‘cyberstalking’ or ‘cyberharassment’ laws or have laws that explicitly include electronic forms of communication within more traditional stalking or harassment laws.” See, “State Cyberstalking and Cyberharassment Laws,” National Conference of State Legislature (NCLS). http://www.ncsl.org/research/telecommunications-and-information-technology/cyberstalking-and-cyberharassment-laws.aspx (http://www.ncsl.org/research/telecommunications-and-information-technology/cyberstalking-and-cyberharassment-laws.aspx) (accessed Feb. 2, 2014).
 
2. Here is a link to a video of Chuck receiving a “Hero of Forgiveness” award at the annual Hawai’i International Forgiveness Day event held at the Hawaii State Capital in July, 2012. https://vimeo.com/84539619 (https://vimeo.com/84539619) 

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.       
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 08:35:10 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 2


In her next installment, Lenora tells us she was basically pretty ignorant on the Wild West anarchy of the Internet. This "paradigm shift" reveals that perhaps she is not as "cutting edge" as she thinks when it comes to social change and cultural trends.

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The Nature of The Internet   

Most people don’t understand the nature of the Internet – I certainly didn’t until this happened to us. Lies can be put on just one blog, and they get shared and re-shared by people looking for material for their own blogs, which then gets shared again and again and again, running up the number of “hits” of viewers. They all feed off of each other for new content to stay competitive. If an attack of this kind happens to you, in a short time, any Google search on your name or company brings up the false information and attacks before real information about you can be found. Soon, the entire first page of the search can be nothing but attack, and a recent study shows that 89% of Internet users do not look beyond the first page of results. That can be catastrophic for any individual or business targeted by this kind of Internet criminal.

Yes, lies get repeated over and over such as-- Charles Lee Spezzano is psychologist! She bemoans the lack of critical thinking by Internet users, yet refers to people who apply critical thinking regarding her activities as "criminal." We'd all like to have our cake and eat it too, but life doesn't work that way most of the time.   

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The bulk of the attack against us is supposedly from Indigenous people, but my research showed me that in some cases these bloggers are only pretending to be First Nations, and appear to have even destroyed the lives of some Indigenous healers. The sad thing is that many individuals doing research on the Internet view these blogs as gospel, not realizing the nature of the Internet or what makes a credible source.

Once again, she cries about lack of critical thinking, but whines when it is directed at her activities. I am not acquainted with all of the SALPOV investigators and survivors, but the people I have communicated with come from different countries and cultures. We share a universal concern about the damage being done by the Spezzanos. Some of the critics come from the New Age community and a few of them are fairly close to Ground Zero. Not all is happiness and light within the Spezzano cult.

Perhaps her premise that the "bulk of the attack against us is supposedly from Indigenous people" is due to this forum hosting several of us. Many critics who are not FN have signed on to this forum because here we can share research and our interests overlap with the mission of NAFPS.   

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It is easy enough to prove what your finances have been, and what your education was, but it is another thing to try to prove what is in your heart. How does one prove that they are not a “predator?” How does one defend their motives?

First, SALPOV has yet to reveal their finances. We are especially interested in that Swiss bank account. No joke, SALPOV has one. Second, there are valid questions about the educational background of Charles Lee Spezzano. Third, motives are revealed by actions. We'll get to all of these as we progress.

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The people leading this character assassination campaign against us, and the bloggers who support them on their forums, do not appear to be the least bit interested in hearing the truth about us. Whenever someone has tried to correct the false information on the websites, their comments were either never posted or were removed quickly. One of the bloggers often boasts that he cannot be caught or stopped. If that is true, it is a sad state of affairs for the future of the Internet.

On the contrary, the critics have gone to great effort to learn the truth and share it. She calls this "character assassination." We call it "enlightenment" and educating the public. It will be a sad state of affairs when free speech is curtailed on the Internet thanks to the likes of cult leaders such as Lenora Kay Spezzano.

Many critical comments were removed from Lenora's YouTube videos and on SALPOV Facebook pages. When it comes to removing and deleting uncomfortable data, the SALPOV machine holds the prize. It is very Soviet-like in that way. I am not aware of any SALPOV comments being removed from the websites of critics. In order to make a point, the late Morty the Dog asked that SALPOV defenders also pay $1000 before posting comments since Charles Lee Spezzano charges $1000 for a personal consultation. And SALPOV supporter Julian Ticehurst actually became a member of this forum, but he deleted his posts and backed out by his own choice from what I understand.

I have no idea who boasts they cannot be caught or stopped, but I have found it amusing to read Lenora's psychological profile of some of her critics, particularly the initial Ripoff Report author who I know personally. Lenora is pretty clueless. And I mean REALLY clueless.

Some of our sources have been closer than she thinks.

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I am hoping that if you hear a little about Chuck’s and my history, you will not readily believe that we are exploiting the Indigenous peoples we have actually honored and supported, pro bono, with our energy and resources for the past 20 years.

If you are interested in the truth about who we are, I would like to tell you a little bit about our background and the work that we do in the Psychology of Vision. The accusations will each be addressed, but I feel it fair to state here that all of the cyber-attacks on us that I have read are completely untrue, and in fact, in every case, they are the exact opposite of the truth.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 08:56:43 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 3

In this segment Lenora gives us an occupational autobiography, probably her strongest chapter in this online document. We see an earnest young woman out to do good. Frankly, her academic credentials are more impressive to me than those of Charles. Her encounter group experience was a hot and hip new activity at the time. It also messed up a lot of people since there was little follow-up (sound familiar?)

She entered public service with the best of intentions. But at some point something turned weird. Why?

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Lency Spezzano, Professional Background   

I graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Arizona in 1975. Because the U of A had the best school in the nation for Rehabilitation Counseling, I stayed there for my graduate studies, and completed my Master of Science degree with High Distinction in 1976, specializing in working with deaf and multiply [sic] disabled deaf people. (My full name at the time was Lenora Kay Abel; Lency is the nickname I have had all my life.) I completed the regular psychiatric supervision for the practicum and internship elements of the M.Sc. program before graduating, working as a counselor for the Community Outreach Program for the Deaf in Tucson, Arizona. From 1976–77 I also served as their Coordinator of Counseling.

Of all the coursework I did in psychology when I was in school, my favorite classes included participation in what was called “encounter groups.” As an under-grad I was a participant, and in grad school I was a trained leader of these group encounters. The concept was for participants in the group to gain psychological benefit through increased self-awareness and social sensitivity, and to change behavior through interpersonal confrontation, self-disclosure and strong emotional expression. In these groups we communicated, took risks, and got to know each other in a therapeutic way that helped us understand ourselves better and supported our emotional growth and maturity. That background in having a therapeutic effect with a group of people, rather than just one person at a time in counseling, had a major influence on the work I developed as my contribution to the Psychology of Vision.

Not long after I received my M.Sc. degree, I was invited to Hawaii to write grants to develop much-needed programs and services for Hawaii’s deaf and hearing-impaired population. I accepted the challenge, working first as the Director of Honolulu’s Information and Referral Service from 1977- 78, as the Director of the Hawaii Center on Deafness from 1978-79, and the State Coordinator of Services for the Deaf for the State of Hawaii, Department of Social Services, Division of Vocational Rehabilitation, from 1979-81.

So I have to wonder. What does Lenora think of the Charles Lee Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst "Healing Metaphor" on deafness?

 
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  Deafness

    Deafness is a complete or partial lack of the ability to hear.

    It signifies that there is something that we don’t want to hear either about relationship (left ear), or career (right ear).

    We have a fear of our purpose, and there is something that we are refusing to learn. There is an area where we have cut ourselves off, which is holding us back from joining the dance of life.

    Because we want to do things our way, there is something we don’t want to hear from others or from within. Deafness means we have some stubbornness and unwillingness to listen and communicate.

Just wondering.

Back to Lenora's story--

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As I matured, my interest in my spiritual development and personal growth also grew, and to support my own evolution, I developed a support program for children with life-threatening illness and their families. That program is still in operation today under the name “HUGS” (Help, Understanding and Group Support) – previously called “The Young People’s Support Center.” The program was based on concepts from A Course in Miracles[1], and it was an astounding success.

Red Flag 1, Course in Miracles.

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There was so much joy at our parties, passers-by at the church where we held our bi-weekly events often wanted to join the group, never imagining that it was a gathering of children with life-threatening illnesses and their families. Even our funerals were such loving, joyful celebrations of life that they turned into parties that lasted for hours and hours – no one ever wanted to leave.

I learned so much from those kids and their families; the healing I received in the process, and the skills that I developed in that rarified atmosphere served me well in later years as I developed the feminine aspect of the Psychology of Vision – the “joining method,” which uses grace as a healing tool.

"Joining." Red Flag 2. Also, the self-directed "served me well."

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Through my work in this program, I learned that – however human beings self-identify in terms of age, ethnicity, sexuality, gender, socio-economics, religious beliefs, educational backgrounds and levels of health – we could come together in a purely horizontal, equal level of relationship. And whenever that happened (a rare event in this world, because of the competitive nature of our egos), people from diverse backgrounds and ages would see themselves as the same, as equals, through a beautiful extra element that also showed up in their joining: Love. In fact, all thirteen of us who came together to create the program, did it on this horizontal basis. I was the one who had the paying job to run the program, but that did not make me more important than those who were doing what they were doing as a gift. I was simply in a leadership position that could facilitate the process.

I'm a little confused here. First we're told Lenora developed the program, but then she says a group of 13 people shaped this thing. She "was the one who had the paying job to run the program." Very well. Apparently still a public servant at this time, did her superiors know she was basically mixing Church and State? Well, it was the Reagan era. If one of my staff people came to me today and declared they were basing their customer service on A Course in Miracles, it would seriously undermine my confidence in their ability to think critically and do their job. Case study: I actually had a supervisor who was a Course in Miracles follower. He was universally hated by the whole organisation and his departure was widely celebrated. "Manifesting" and magic thinking didn't work too well for him. 

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The love at our Support Center events was so palpable that it was like being in another, higher dimension, one in which love was the natural reality. And where there is love like that, emotional healing occurs automatically. As a result, I became an avid student of love, wanting to know how much love there is available to feel. And, as my capacity to give and receive love grew, I discovered that love is a very powerful healing tool.

"Another, higher dimension." Red Flag 3.

This passage about Love brings to mind a documentary about the Beatles from a couple decades ago called It Was Twenty Years Ago Today. In it, that old Yippie, Abbie Hoffman, was asked, "Is love all you need?"

"No," he responded, "It's nice to have. It's nice, as in peace. But it is not, and this is basically the flaw in Beatle politics: Justice is all you need."   

As we seen earlier in this forum within the insensitive remarks by Charles Lee Spezzano concerning the FN residential school survivors and other people who have suffered from the cruelty of humankind or disease, the victims are to blame and seeking "justice" just isn't in the 3 card deck.

Rather than seeking justice, SALPOV victims are told to employ forgiveness, which comes at a very expensive service fee. Yet, when it comes to those of us who dare to offer accurate critiques of SALPOV, they regard our observations as slander, libel, criminal cyber attacks and want legal justice. Sort of a double standard taking place here, wouldn't you say?

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I could tell you amazing story after amazing story about what I learned from those children, but I would love to share just one of them here, from a book I wrote and published in 1995, Make Way for Love, A Story to Open Your Heart, The Arthur Story.
[link provided on her website]

I invited Chuck out to Hawaii to do in-service training for the Center’s volunteers, partly because of his experience teaching at a holistic health Institute (where he taught “The Psychodynamics of Catastrophic Illness” and “Healing Relationships”), but primarily because of his level of understanding and application of A Course in Miracles. But you should know more about Chuck’s background before I go further.

This passage intrigues me. Watch Charles Lee Spezzano's enthusiastic endorsement and appeal to materialism in his YouTube Mo Money. As he markets the concept of manifesting for selfish gain at 2:50 he says--

"I once decided I was going to get moved to Hawaii without having to pay for it and that's exactly what happened. Somebody moved me to Hawaii a couple years later, paid for all the expenses."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU)

So, who paid for Charles to move to Hawaii? Makes ya think, don't it?

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References and Footnotes

1. A Course in Miracles is a self-study curriculum which aims to assist its readers in achieving spiritual transformation. 

Fascinating. If Lenora had stayed in the belly of the beast and changed it from within I'd be more receptive to her protestations in general. But somewhere in this narrative she crossed over to the Dark Side of her Ego and, ironically, became the very sort of figure the Spezzanos warn their trusting followers not to become.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 09:14:39 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 4

Now we shift to the credentials of Charles Lee Spezzano.

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Chuck Spezzano, Professional Background

Chuck’s first vocational goal was to become a priest. Later, during his third year at collegiate seminary, he realized that he felt a calling to be helpful to more people than just Catholics, and that he would like to marry one day and have children. He graduated Cum Laude from Duquesne University (the best school in the US for Existential Phenomenology, which is where Humanistic Philosophy and Psychology come from) in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in 1970, getting his Bachelor of Arts degree, with a double major in Philosophy and Psychology. He received his Master of Arts degree in Sociology from Duquesne as well, in 1971. He was hired as a counselor and Director of Outreach at the Brashear Association, there in Pittsburgh in 1972. Later in 1972, Chuck moved to San Diego, California, to begin his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology from the United States International University. Chuck chose USIU because they had the strongest Humanistic Psychology program he could find in the US at the time. (USIU and the California School of Professional Psychology joined in 2001 to form Alliant International University.) He graduated with his Ph.D. in 1977.

We need to enhance this description with the facts that USIU was not accredited by the APA in 1977 and Charles listed his degree on his thesis as one in "Professional Psychology," not "Counseling Psychology" as his official online biographies claim. So what is the deal there? This is a very serious discrepancy which alone would qualify him to be classified as a fraud for the purposes of this forum and also have him removed from the faculty of any academic institution.   

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Chuck was employed as a psychologist by the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center at the Naval Air Station Miramar, in San Diego, from 1973-79, and he also became an instructor at the Naval Drug and Alcohol Counseling School, their program to train Navy therapists, from 1974-79. From 1979-82 Chuck was a seminar trainer for ARAS (Awareness-Respect-Affection-Support) Trainings, which were based on a spiritual and personal growth model. This is where he developed his love for being able to help many people at once, rather than helping them just one at a time.

Oh, I love this mention of ARAS because it gives me an opportunity to bring up the Bob Trask connection. Trask, the ARAS chief who came up with the triangle the Spezzanos "borrowed," had a sudden parting of the ways with Charles Lee Spezzano. You professional reporters would do well to find out why. The resulting story will be fun and Lenora's above statement will contain an unintentional ironic humor.

And let us mark this, Lenora called Charles a "psychologist" here. Later in this document she claims SALPOV has never claimed Charles was a psychologist. Hmmm. Someone is suffering from a "split mind."   

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Chuck developed a seminar system for those in rehab, as an adjunct to the group and individual therapy treatments, to accelerate the healing process. It was also where he began to formulate his “Steps to Oneness,” a roadmap of all the steps, stages and levels that individuals, couples, companies and countries go through on their way to Oneness. It was because of the ever-heavier caseload, and shorter time allotted by the governmental budget for rehab, that Chuck studied short-term therapy models, and developed many methods and techniques for transformation that easily accessed the subconscious and unconscious levels of the mind.  When I first encountered Chuck’s model I was utterly astounded – even though I had recently received a M.Sc. in counseling, and I thought I knew the state of the art. In terms of effectiveness, Chuck’s insights were well beyond any traditional therapy I had studied in graduate school.

So how did Lenora first encounter Spezzano's work? What was the networking here?

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From 1979-83 Chuck developed a private practice as a licensed Marriage, Family and Child Counselor in Orange County, California. In 1983 he moved to Hawaii and served as the interim minister for Windward Unity Church, in Kailua, Hawaii, for one year. In 1981 Chuck began teaching his first international personal growth seminars, and I joined him in that calling in 1984.

Charles Lee Spezzano's experience as the interim minister for Windward Unity Church is another era worth investigating. I don't know why he later connected so closely to Oneness University, but I am wondering if his Unity ministry was the initial spark that fed his enthusiasm for Bhagavan and Amma. Later the Spezzanos would betray them.

Note to SALPOV corporate partners or influences-- they will throw you under the bus with no qualms if your association impacts their profit margin.

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Chuck and I had begun working together in Hawaii in 1983 and were married in 1984. Together we have developed the Psychology of Vision model, a path of the heart that focuses on the healing of relationships, leadership (or helping others) and non-denominational spirituality. With this as our base, we have created many healing techniques and principles. http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/) This is Chuck’s 42nd year as a counselor/coach, and by the end of 2014 he will have 38 books (a few with my participation) published in Germany, with one or more books published in 19 other countries. He has a dozen other books in the works.

Putting together both of our backgrounds, I think it may be clear to see how the Psychology of Vision was inspired, and how it is based on the power of forgiveness and love, because, as Chuck and I have seen in seminars countless times, forgiveness is the key to happiness. I will now begin to answer the many attacks on us that have resulted from the primary attacker’s efforts.

And I will continue the reality checks.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 






Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 09:34:26 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 5

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Is The Psychology of Vision A Cult?

Yes.

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As I understand it, a cult is a religious or spiritual group with rigid ideas and authoritarian practices. Members give their power over to the group’s leader, and, in the process, they surrender their identity. Members are encouraged to cut their ties with family and friends, and for these reasons they are seen as exploitative and dangerous.

Read the English language version of the SALOV Trainer's Manual before continuing. Even though SALPOV took it down from public view, I maintained a copy which is attached. After reading it, you will see everything Lenora claims here is not true. SALPOV is a steep hierarchy and a personality cult. It is all perfectly laid out in their own words.

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The Psychology of Vision is the opposite of a cult. It is an organization that is owned by the group of Trainers themselves (there are presently 48 of us). All organizational decisions are discussed until the Trainers reach a unanimous decision, either as a whole body (for major decisions) at our annual Conference, or by the Steering Committee, which deals with day-to-day issues. Chuck and I, as founders, do not get more of a voice than any other Trainer or Steering Committee member. A Trainer’s vote, at Level 1, is as important as a vote of a Trainer Level 4. This is because our organization operates from a horizontal relationship between Trainers, not a hierarchy with a cult figure at the top. Any difference in the levels of Trainers purely reflects the level of leadership through service that the Trainers have attained, not their value or their importance.

Seminar participants develop their own connection to grace and healing, and do not need to go through any PoV Trainer at any time to access it. Focus is always made on empowering the participants in their daily lives, not on developing dependency on PoV Trainers. Participants do heal by releasing the pain of old emotional injuries to realize the truth; but contrary to the attack allegations, there is no emotional “freaking out” in the seminars, and although there is a lot of laughter, none of it is “hysterical.”

Poor Jordan was subjected to the hypnosis otherwise called "Downloading/Joining" and got hysterical at a couple points and had to be calmed down--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

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No cult-like behavior exists in PoV, as far as I can see, nor is there any version of the typical “us versus them” mentality that would encourage seminar participants to cut ties with their family and friends. In fact, that is the opposite of what PoV is about. We focus on recovering failed relationships with our family members, forgiving our parents for our childhood injuries and being accountable for what takes place in our lives in relation to others.

The very existence of Lenora's "Truth" online document, equating honest criticism with criminal activity and rounding up the cult followers for loyalty oath "testimonials" reveals the opposite of what she is claiming about cult-like behavior. I would agree with Lenora that "No cult-like behavior exists in PoV." Instead, I would say rather than "cult-like" it is just a plain straight-ahead "cult."

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The Psychology of Vision governs itself in a professional manner, and any complaint about a Trainer’s behavior would be subject to a review process of accountability and consequences. If any of us, as PoV Trainers, unintentionally happened to hurt or damage a person in any way, there are clear processes in place to address a seminar participant’s feedback.

True professionals interested in transparency would open their complaints to the regulators of the public sector. The insular nature of their "discipline" only confirms the cult nature of SALPOV.

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Insofar as a “cult” may be accused of “swindling” their “followers” out of money – we had never been accused of any such thing. To my knowledge, neither PoV, nor Chuck and I personally, have ever received feedback that seminars are over-priced or are not worth what people paid for them. (A recent research of the price of popular seminars being taught in Germany found that Chuck’s and my PoV seminars are mid-range in price.) Also, seminar participants are never pressed to bring new members to seminars. This is a very important value for Chuck and me.

Read Section K of the German language SALPOV Trainers Manual--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674)

Plus, who else charges over $1000 an hour for personal consultations like Charles Lee Spezzano does? 

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If people return to PoV seminars, and bring friends or family with them, it is not because we employ some kind of “mind control” over seminar participants, as “cults” might. People return because they value the healing they have received, and want to continue along that path. The process of healing emotional injuries, heartbreaks and defenses is only of interest to people who value it. People have to already be on their healing path to have any interest in the Psychology of Vision. It is not for everybody because not everyone wants to get in touch with their repressed pain so that it can be released and healed. For those who have not developed this value, they may feel threatened by those who have, which I feel is a primary reason for the kind of attack that accuses us of being a cult.

She is right about SALPOV is not for everybody. Most wage slaves cannot even begin to afford the high fees demanded by the Spezzanos. Only the affluent need apply. Apparently the wealthy class has no shortage of fools willing to part with their money. 

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 


 

 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 09:54:05 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 6


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Is A Course in Miracles A Cult?

Psychology of Vision is compatible with A Course in Miracles, which is a self-study spiritual thought system. Its primary teaching is that the way to universal love and peace—or, in their terms, remembering God—is by undoing guilt through forgiving others. It is a set of 3 books. There is no leader, no group, and therefore, it is not a cult.

The teachings of A Course in Miracles have been supported by such commentators and authors as Robert Schuller, Oprah Winfrey and Eckhart Tolle.

"Robert Schuller, Oprah Winfrey and Eckhart Tolle," not exactly a lineup I would embrace as champions of critical thinking. As I understand it, Helen Schucman "scribed" ACIM with the help of an "inner voice" she identified as Jesus Christ. Isn't that so special?

For some time SALPOV websites counted ACIM along with Oneness University as their two greatest inspirations. 

I'll just say this in plain speaking-- in my opinion ACIM is just another crackpot theology. If the Spezzanos eventually throw this inspiration under the bus like they did with their worship of Oneness University, then all they will have left is their bare greed. Since ACIM is pretty much in the public domain they can pillage from it all they can. Much better than coming up with something original. Although horribly behind the curve, the Spezzanos do try to ride whatever New Age fad will turn a profit (e.g. the "quantum physics" or 2012 or Deeksha or Louise Hay silliness). I have yet to hear a single original thought originate from the mouth of either Spezzano that was not previously expressed by some other New Age trend setter.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 11:00:14 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 7

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Are the Spezzanos Targeting First Nations (Or Other Indigenous Peoples – Metis, Inuit or Native Americans) For Financial Gain?

Of course they are. All you have to do is read Section K of the German language SALPOV Trainers Manual--


http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674)

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This attack on us suggests that, not only have we billed exorbitantly high prices for our work with First Nations people, but that we have targeted the “Indian Residential School Settlement” (i.e., the Federal monetary compensation for residential school survivors) for personal gain. It goes so far as to suggest that entire grants, written to fund agencies for years at a time – such as the one that went to Haida Gwaii’s Ngystle Society’s programs for Residential School Survivors – went directly to Chuck and me. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The fact is, over the past twenty years, Chuck and I have donated one to two seminars yearly to First Nations communities in British Columbia, Canada, on numerous reserves – each at the invitation of a particular First Nation. This didn’t begin by our targeting First Nations people; we visited one community by invitation, and it just grew. More and more families invited us to their reserves and we responded. The result was always the same – First Nations people openly demonstrated their love and support for our work wherever we went.

We have never taken a penny in payment for these First Nations seminars, although in most, but not every case, we have received reimbursements for such out of pocket expenses as hotel and food, and a part of our airfare. Some agencies may have budgeted some funding to pay for some of the expenses of putting on PoV seminars – I don’t have information about that; for example, one place provided a free lunch to participants in the seminar, which I think may have come from their agency’s budget. But I can say that the source of funding for the production costs of First Nations seminars that Chuck and I have taught came primarily from asking non-First Nations seminar participants to donate the equivalent of a full priced seat (we allowed up to 25% of the seats to go to non-Natives, but no more than that, for this fundraising purpose). Since Chuck and I did not charge for our services, and the promoters always promoted us free of charge, the hard costs of the seminars were easily covered.

Sort of reminds one of Nixon's "Checkers Speech"--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqjwBDH-vhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqjwBDH-vhY)

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Chuck and I felt called to contribute what we could to Indigenous peoples because we feel that, in the next century, their voices will be crucial. We chose to support them on their healing path, because, as has become more and more historically evident, many First Nations, Metis, Inuit and Native Americans have publicly demonstrated their concern for the survival of all human beings on planet Earth. We recognize that they have been working toward the benefit of humanity throughout history, despite, and because of, living in many different forms of oppressive colonial conditions.  Chuck and I also have believed that human survival will ultimately depend on the ability of all peoples to return to the values and understandings related to our human connection with each other and the “natural world” on which we are all dependent.

".. return to the values and understandings related to our human connection with each other and the 'natural world' on which we are all dependent." And at what point in all of human history did that state ever exist? Even in prehistoric times humans were still at war with each other. Of course if you believe in the Christian concept of the Garden of Eden, as the Spezzanos clearly do since they equate the Ego with the Devil, then such a utopia once existed.

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So, we have wanted to do this work with, and in support of, Indigenous peoples, especially while this generation of elders is still alive. Over twenty years ago, Chuck and I determined that, “If we support First Nations in their healing now, they will be in a better position to support the world in the future.” Since that time, we have listened to their voices, as well as supported and witnessed the work they have been doing, which has been so vital to their own healing as Indigenous peoples; and more broadly speaking, we believe that their work, in terms of what it adds to the collective consciousness, is vital to the very future of this planet. [1]

How Jungian. And misleading.

If you watch the APTN broadcast, which Lenora refuses to recognize in her entire document, you will see several FN people, including elders, making critical comments about this cult.

Bill Wilson has recently stated:

"Approaching 70, with my privileged life nearly half over, I reflect on the condition of Indian Peoples:- I have seen the effects of the Whiteman's government, religion and foolish assumption of superiority. It is a sad and sorry litany of abuse.-My Mum often spoke lovingly of the time when the POTLATCH was our only form of government AND religion. She lived this ideal all her life, remaining a strong MUSGAMAGW even in the face of the destruction brought by the churches, DIA, welfare and industry. I am glad that she did not get to see the PHONY HEALERS & THEIR CULTS, the most recent group of maggots feeding on the decaying flesh of our Nations.- They are the NEW SMALLPOX sent to destroy Our Peoples."

Tell it like it is, Bill! Right on! "Maggots" is a good description of SALPOV.

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Another motivation for me, regarding these donations, was connected to the basic idea of tithing – an old spiritual value of giving ten percent of the good that comes to you back to those who have contributed to your own well being; it is an appreciation for blessings you have received. In my mind, our tithing back to the Indigenous peoples of the Americas is in gratitude for the continued ceremonies that many different Indigenous nations, groups and individuals continue to perform to balance out the negativity of our (global) collective consciousness, and the many blessings that their work brings to the table, for each and every one of us, whether we have known to ask for it or not.

Of the thousands of First Nations people that we have served in those pro bono seminars (a large percentage of whom were residential school survivors), Chuck and I have never received feedback that suggested we hurt anyone. To my knowledge, those seminars have always included a form for feedback when it was over; the worst feedback I can remember receiving was from one man who suggested I not use the word “chakra” in describing how the joining method works, because they didn’t have that concept in their Indigenous healing model. I learned from that feedback, and figured out a way to describe the process without using spiritual jargon.

In other words, change the terminology but not the psychocolonisation practice. Canadian trainer Babs Stevens still describes herself as a "Oneness Blessing Giver" on her LinkedIn and a "Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver" on Twitter.

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Our main goal has been to develop First Nations PoV Trainers to carry on the work. Presently, we have two First Nations PoV Trainers. They “pay” for their licensing as Psychology of Vision Trainers by donating work to First Nations communities. So, in effect, the international Psychology of Vision Trainers’ Association also contributes to First Nations in B.C.

Why do any of the SALPOV cult graduates, regardless of geography or ethnicity, need to pay for a "license fee" on the first place? The above paragraph can serve as Exhibit # 2 in the British Columbia vs. Spezzano and Associates Ltd. affinity fraud case, after the German language SALPOV Trainers Manual Section K.

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The truth is, Chuck and I have never received any governmental funds from Canada or any other country. Rather, we have donated at least 30 three-day seminars to First Nations communities in British Columbia, Canada, over a period of 20 years, without ever receiving any financial payment for the considerable amount of work we did. We also donated seminars to the Navajo Nation in the Southwestern US, to Native Hawaiian people in Hawaii and Buddhist monks and nuns in Asia.

In addition to our First Nations Fund, the Psychology of Vision has also created three other funds, which students of the Psychology of Vision support internationally. In our India Fund http://www.freundschaft-mit-indien.de (http://www.freundschaft-mit-indien.de) we help the Bethsaida Orphanage in Kerala, India, where Chuck and I are the honorary parents of 975 orphans. The fund also helps support 2,600 children in 25 neighboring villages that were orphaned by the tsunami, as well as other community programs.

Our Africa Fund http://www.visionzambia.co.uk (http://www.visionzambia.co.uk) supports a community of approximately 35,000 in Linda Compound near Lusaka, Zambia, contributing to their Aids hospice, community school, infant nutrition program, infrastructure for clean drinking water and women’s self-help groups. The fund also contributes to our son’s charity for Wisdom School in Ghana, where he taught fifth grade.

I am sure the Spezzano/Ticehurst take on AIDS must be a great comfort to these children--

"AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome)

This disease means our body has lost its ability to fight off infection. Infection by the HIV virus has caused serious damage to our immune system.

Normally our immune systems produce antibodies to fight off foreign agents but, because we have a poorly functioning immune system, ‘opportunistic infections’ take advantage and infect the body.

The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.

At some level, we experience an inability to receive or give help. We are caught in a trap of indulgence, martyrdom or rebellion, rather than leadership.

The martyrdom takes the form of not receiving help and at the same time criticizing parents, family and society’s ability to give.

Yet, we are ignoring our vocation, refusing to heed the call to giving, to leadership, purpose, vision and not allowing ourselves to have all the help and comfort we crave.

Suggested Exercises:
Purpose
Forgiveness"

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In our Bangladesh Fund http://www.cocoro-v.org/english/join_e4.html (http://www.cocoro-v.org/english/join_e4.html) we donate seminars to aid workers in Dhaka’s slums, as well as support various school, farming and women’s programs there, aiming at a hunger and poverty free Bangladesh by 2021.

Our First Nations fund http://povcanada.com/first-nations/ (http://povcanada.com/first-nations/) does fundraising to cover accommodation and travel expenses for Indigenous people in Canada who want to attend Psychology of Vision seminars. In addition to the pro bono seminars we have donated to First Nations communities, for many years all seats in seminars that Chuck and I taught anywhere in the world were free for First Nations participants. In 2009, the PoV Steering Committee made the decision to make the “First Nations Fund” PoV’s official means of “tithing back,” which included recommending to all PoV seminar promoters around the world that First Nations seminar seats be available at half price.

I can say without hesitancy that, rather than “strip” First Nations communities of funding and resources, the Psychology of Vision has done the very opposite of what we have been accused of. The PoV First Nations Fund has brought $1.5 million USD of resources to British Columbia to support First Nations in their healing over the past 20 years.
 

We would all love to see an example of the transparency your organisation so frequently touts in action and read an account of this money trail, please? Particularly in British Columbia.

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But more importantly, in First Nations communities where the Psychology of Vision has been taught, we have received the following feedback: as emotional healing takes place in the families, there are not as many crises taking place in the community, and as the level of crisis in the community reduces, members have the luxury of time to learn their Nations’ languages and ancient skills from the elders before they are lost.

I think the current residents of Haida Gwaii who are not SALPOV cult followers might have a different opinion. Inconvenient, isn't it? You didn't quite brainwash the whole place. Well, you did have Erick Gonzalez competing with you. I understand you Spezzanos had a chance to meet him. Quite a story there.

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I remember one First Nations woman, a strong leader in her community, telling me that she credited PoV for giving her time. Time to be with her family (rather than having to always be responding to community crises and tragedies), time to learn her language, and time to learn such skills as how to tan a deer hide for the doeskin dress her daughter would need at her traditional coming of age ceremony. Their Nation had nearly lost those arts, and nearly lost its language.

And yet others on Haida Gwaii consider SALPOV to be a "Manifesting" Destiny force. Introducing Oneness University inspired Deeksha and Oneness Blessings can hardly be counted as a positive influence on Haida Gwaii. A local leader, Babs Stevens, in my opinion which I am free to have as a human walking between the Earth and sky, is clearly being hypnotised and manipulated in Lenora's YouTube entitled Original Mind Download.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY 
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

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References and Footnotes

1. Just to be clear, when I refer to the “natural world” in which we all live, or to some Indigenous peoples’ "relationships to their traditional lands, waterways and resources - I'm not talking about “Indian” stereotypes, such as the "Indian as Nature or as natural"; nor am I saying, “All Native people are so spiritual.” What I am talking about are the many Indigenous peoples who have already led the way in this regard, and those who are continuing to lead the way - the most recent being, for example, the Idle No More movement, which began in Canada and quickly caught fire across the globe. That said, as much I don’t want to sound like a corny wannabe, I do believe that many Indigenous groups and individuals have a very valuable sense of relationship with the - brace yourself! - "Great Spirit" who occupies the planet as a body.

Wow. She utterly failed here. She is totally talking stereotype. "Some of my best friends are non-white." She comes across as the square undercover narc attempting to be hip while trying to bust someone for smoking frog venom.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 06, 2014, 11:37:49 pm
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 8

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Are Chuck And Lency And The Psychology of Vision Only about Money?

When people whose first vocational goals were to be a priest, and to work with severely disabled people and dying children, it is not because they are only about money. Being a Psychology of Vision Trainer is very challenging and draining work, the overhead is high and the rewards are not primarily financial.

If we were only about money, there are much easier ways to acquire it. PoV Trainers are motivated by the love in their hearts for humanity and their desire to relieve suffering.

She is right. The Spezzanos are indeed not just about making lots of money, they are also about acquiring a sadistic kind of power over people, as evidenced by Lenora's YouTubes. Notice how she first poses her question as if it was just pointed to her and Charles, and then extends it to the trainers as if they were extensions of herself.

The trainers are being used as sandbags here. Most of them are probably not making all that much money, especially with all the fee-based requirements the Spezzanos demand. But you can bet the two top CEOs of Spezzano and Associates are raking it in. 

The fact Charles charges over $1000 an hour for a personal consultation wrecks the integrity of Lenora's whining about her defense they are not obsessed with money.

I won't dispute the fact both Spezzanos entered the occupation of helping others with the best of intentions. But it didn't last long. Somewhere along the line they crossed over to the Dark Side of greed and power. They have indeed become the very dark astral forces they warn their followers about. Unfortunately, one of the requirements of being a SALPOV client is to check your brains at the door, along with any sense of dignity, class, or (shudder) independence. A few souls have managed to crawl out of the SALPOV crazy house and are among the people working to convince British Columbia authorities that a public system of exit counseling needs to be in place as a support for SALPOV survivors trying to reclaim their lives.

It looks like the Spezzanos left the field of public service three decades ago and became retail spiritual capitalists, selling their vaporware to wealthy gullible people who were not subject to USA consumer protection laws. If they had remained in the low-paying and altruistic field of public service then perhaps I could have an iota of respect for them. But instead they chose to put profit ahead of social responsibility, as indicated by the damage they have created without admitting any responsibility for the negative consequences of their actions as outlined in this forum.

If they had been cast in the Big Chill, a movie where Boomer plans were torn asunder, they would've played the parts of corporate sellouts.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 12:01:44 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 9

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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

Of all the twisted misrepresentations spread on Lenora's online screed, this one is the most blatant. I won't waste my time repeating all the evidence we have already presented on this forum disproving this fantasy. The fact remains that Oneness University was a major influence on SALPOV teachings and is now too deeply embedded for the Spezzanos to remove. If they deny OU teachings then they must also deny much of their own curriculum and shut down their money-making operation.

SALPOV tried to remedy this by erasing all online connection with OU. My, how Soviet of them.

I'd love to hear in detail why Lenora does not approve of Oneness University. Both SALPOV and OU seem equally crazy to me. Perhaps her objections coincided with some negative press OU got for being a huge scam. So much for loyalty. Yet, OU philosophy is alive and well in SALPOV.

I'd like to take issue with her use of the word "seminar." This indicates equality among the participants, and as we have plainly seen in SALPOV promotional material and manuals, this is never the case. I am very familiar with the seminar method and have seen no evidence this is practiced in SALPOV. "Indoctrination" would be a more appropriate term. In a recent Facebook exchange, a loyal SALPOV follower attempted to approach and comfort Lenora as a fellow equal human being over the terrible and "nasty" treatment we critics are dishing out, and the Queen Bee let it be known she did not require the advice of underlings in no uncertain terms. This is consistent with the Great Chain of Being as outlined in the SALPOV Trainers Manual: God - Spezzanos - Trainers - Easy marks - Rabble - Troublemakers.

Notice the absence of detail in this post. No dates, no specific reasons. This is a pretty shifty-eyed and Nixonian answer. How did the Spezzanos first become enamored of OU? How much of OU philosophy worked its way into SALPOV theology and terminology? What caused Lenora to back away and exactly when did that happen? Why has this OU objection never appeared from an official online SALPOV source until this 2014 statement by Lenora? 

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 
   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 12:17:41 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 10

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Is Chuck Spezzano A Psychologist?

No.

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If you read Chuck’s resume section on this website, you will know that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology. I have never heard him refer to himself as a psychologist, and we have never advertised him as one, because that would require a psychologist’s license. We don’t edit the promotional material that PoV promoters and Trainers around the world create, as it is primarily in foreign languages. If some have been calling Chuck a psychologist instead of saying that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology, I’m sure it has been brought to their attention now.

Well, you know how that darn Internet works. "Lies can be put on just one blog, and they get shared and re-shared by people looking for material for their own blogs, which then gets shared again and again and again, running up the number of “hits” of viewers. They all feed off of each other for new content to stay competitive."

Lenora actually calls Charles a "psychologist" earlier in this document. That ol' split mind must be acting up again.

Internet also tells us over and over again that Charles has a PhD in "Counseling Psychology," but his thesis is presented as part of the requirements for "Professional Psychology." What's the deal with that?

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Chuck was still licensed as a Marriage, Family and Child Counselor in California when we set up our office in Hawaii. (There is a slight difference in strategies between Psychologists and Marriage Family and Child Counselors – the latter being committed to short-term intervention.) Chuck’s MFCC license was for California, and Hawaii did not yet offer MFCC licenses. Chuck had already moved on from having a private counseling practice to working internationally as a seminar trainer. The primary benefit for a therapist to be licensed is so that local insurance companies will pay for a certain number of sessions for people who live in your state. To go through this process of “third party payment” generates a lot of paper work, which would require us to hire additional office staff. Since Chuck was not developing a local private practice, and he and I were seminar trainers – which was our calling – we could not see any benefit for him to become licensed as a psychologist in Hawaii.

Yes, plus this way the SALPOV trainers do not have to be held accountable by government regulators. Also, all that nasty bureaucratic overhead from being licensed would mean a smaller profit margin for the Spezzanos.

Given Charles Lee Spezzano's history, I highly doubt he could qualify to be a licensed psychologist in Hawaii without some continuing education other than his 2007 Oneness University experience. His 2004 fine for pretending to be a psychologist might also hurt his chances.

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Although we will do some private coaching with people around the world, we generally try to steer people to a PoV seminar, if possible, because that is the more cost effective approach for the client. As Trainers, we don’t have the time to accomplish individually what can more easily be accomplished in a group. Our primary interest is what is in the best interest of our clients. As such, sometimes the nature of the issue the person wants to heal seems to them to be too personal to talk about in a group; so for them, the private coaching session is an option.

Private coaching at $1000 an hour. Nice. But it is always more profitable to make stew than serve steak. These two are really a piece of work.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 
   


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 12:56:41 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 11

Here is Lenora explaining why her "downloading/joining" sessions are not hypnosis. The YouTubes she references can be found at this link--


https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

If you are not familiar with the videos, I'd suggest watching a half dozen of them or so before reading on, otherwise this won't mean much. I realize they are hard to watch for most normal people. What can I say? I have watched them all and am still walking on two feet. Viewing these is sort of like attending a Luis Buñuel film festival.

Frankly, I find these videos to be disturbing, sadistic and very bizarre. She has failed to convince me this is not some form of hypnosis. And as a free person I am entitled to this opinion and can express it. Using SALPOV logic, any attempt by Lenora to stop people from expressing this view, as she has tried, reveals an insecurity and sense of guilt that we critics are on to something.

But I'll tell you what, here's fair play. You have watched the YouTubes, now read Lenora's defense of them. I won't interrupt her with my usual intrusions. Get out your malarkey meter and decide for yourself what is real here. 

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Is Lency Spezzano Merely A Stage Hypnotist?


I have had some YouTube videos up that we filmed at our PoV Trainers’ Conference a couple of years ago. In those videos I was teaching the Trainers how to do an advanced form of joining called “receiving a download.” The bloggers who have been attacking us seem to think that, because I ask the Trainers in the videos to look in my right eye to do the process, that that is proof that I am a stage hypnotist.

First, it’s important to know that what we are doing in this process is “joining” – which is the simplest, yet most powerful healing method that I know of. All that is required is to relate to another person (or group of people) in a horizontal manner – recognizing that, although all human beings are unique, at a deeper level we are the same, and we are all connected.

So, to return to the videos, which focus on one form of joining, the reason I ask for that assistance is because I, like most people, am “right eyed” in the same way that I, like most people, am right handed. So, if the person looks into my left eye, which is not my dominant eye, we aren’t really looking straight at each other. With both of the other person’s eyes looking into my right eye, I can look back into their left eye, the “window of the soul,” to see their pain; this is physically evident in the pupil of the eye, which takes a different aperture according to what the person is feeling.

As the pain surfaces, it opens up the issue to be healed, washing out the pain and suffering, until only the joy of the experience of Oneness with God remains. It is a universal experience. With a little practice, as each person is relating to the other, it’s possible to read his or her painful life process like a book, recognizing we are the same and we are all connected.

Life’s pain and suffering just waits until the conscious mind is willing to register and acknowledge its existence. Once it has, the pain not only releases, it becomes the basis for strength, maturity and wisdom. Suffering is just the raw material for our growth; for most people, they have already done the hardest part of their lives – all that is left is to process the raw material so that it can be “smelted” with awareness, and the end product is gold. People who have not only survived a crisis, but have integrated the process emotionally, generally do not wish that the crisis had never occurred. This is because they are glad to be the human being that transformed through the process. Joining reaps the benefits of our tough life experiences.

Although looking into each other’s eyes while joining is helpful, it can just as easily happen if a person is too shy to look in another’s eyes, or if connecting over the telephone between distant countries; this is because joining is about heart connection. It happens just as easily one-to-one as it does in a group of hundreds of people who are looking at each other, rather than just at the person who is leading the group. We are all connected.

Joining, as a universal experience, happens regardless of whether you call that Source of Love “God,” “Creator,” “Allah” or “Higher Self” – or even if you don’t believe in a Supreme Being at all. It takes place at a level of the mind that is deeper than culture or religion; it’s the place where we can experience the Love that is continually pouring into us, whether we are noticing it or not. So, joining starts out with the experience of emotional intimacy with another person, as we see in the video I refer to above, and ends in the experience of emotional intimacy with God.

I learned about real intimacy from the kids with life threatening illnesses. As a child nears death, people they know tend to distance themselves, in an attempt to protect themselves from the pain of loss. I decided to see what would happen if I moved closer to those children instead. When I did, I discovered that, if you are willing to be one with another person, it is easy to feel the emotion they are feeling. I also discovered, if you feel it with them, the emotion just automatically releases. What I came to know was that our emotional injuries heal automatically if we are willing to acknowledge and feel them.

PoV Trainers, such as the ones seen on the “receiving a download” videos , are willing to experience being one with the pain of others, because they are also, at the same time, tapping into grace, the Love of God. The combination of feeling the group’s pain, while also feeling the grace from above, creates a tremendous experience of tenderness in our hearts as we lead the joining sessions. That grace also heals us and helps us to evolve at the same time. The thing that makes Psychology of Vision trainings so powerful is that the Trainers are always doing their own healing alongside their seminar participants.

In this story, from Make Way for Love [link provided on original website] The Tokyo Couple, I describe what the experience of joining feels like as a major issue is healed. The Japanese couple in the story healed the grief of losing their only child to death in just a few minutes, while sitting in a public place, without anyone around us even noticing as we moved our minds through deep despair to transcendent bliss. Well, people probably noticed us hugging and laughing at the end, but my point is, the process does not have to be dramatic.

If you can define yourself as including the other, if you are willing to be that other person, just as they are, you have access to their heart, and they have access to yours. When PoV Trainers work with a group of people, they define themselves as the group – kind of an “all my relations” understanding – while also feeling their connection to God/Creator; this allows the whole room to remember God’s love via the Trainer’s mind. This experience usually rocks a room, and it is not unusual for everyone in the seminar to be healing and crying at the same time in the beginning of the joining session, and for everyone to be laughing together at the end. It’s a real blast, but it’s not for everybody; the experience is treasured by people on the healing path, but not interesting to people who are not motivated to confront their pain.

The bloggers thought it was scandalous that I, a white person, would say that I could “join” with First Nations people. All I can say is that I have spent hundreds of hours crying with First Nations people, feeling their pain along with them and celebrating with them when they were free of it. I am grateful because I have grown a lot through that process as well, gaining maturity and developing my capacity for love. I have tremendous respect for First Nations, for what it has taken for them to survive individually and as peoples.

Below is a link that shows me working with a PoV Master Trainer from England. You will see the intimacy that allows us to be one, which invites the love into our joined minds. She and I are feeling the same emotion at the same time, going through the same healing, and ending up with the same gift, which we share with the others in the room. Every mind in the room went through the same transformation, and experienced the same miracle of love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk)

Joining is simple, safe and efficient and it does not require a Trainer or a seminar to experience its benefits. Psychology of Vision practitioners use it with their loved ones at home when a conflict arises, and they use it to pour love into their children when they tuck them into bed at night. Joining is true, natural relationship. It is love.

This love comes from the Source of love, and is effective regardless of the cultural background or religion of the participant. The Psychology of Vision has a non-denominational spiritual framework that leverages its students on their own spiritual path. For example, Muslim students of the Psychology of Vision in Bangladesh appreciate an enhanced direct experience of Allah’s love in their prayer time. Sikhs in Canada use Psychology of Vision to bring more intimacy to their relationship with the Dharma. Buddhist monks and nuns in Taiwan use it when supporting those who come to them for help.

Somehow the expression "Digging your own grave" comes to mind. It used to be said that "Religion is the last refuge of a scoundrel." This needs to be updated in Century 21 as "New Age Spirituality is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open. 
   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 01:11:01 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 12

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Does Chuck Claim To Have Cured Aids and Cancer?

Here is my answer to this question--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37400#msg37400 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37400#msg37400)

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Chuck has never claimed that he can cure any illness, and would never discourage anyone from seeking medical treatment. It is common, however, for people who have illnesses to want to supplement their treatment with holistic, body/mind approaches as well. Many people who have sought out Chuck to work on their health issues have had remissions from their illnesses. Chuck always acknowledges that it is the client who is responsible for creating the positive changes and healing. This is always the case, whether just the medical model is used or if a holistic one is used.

In the Psychology of Vision, health issues can give us clues about what is going on in our subconscious minds. It is sort of like a psychiatrist doing dream analysis – physical symptoms can also be read as symbols for the conflicts in our minds. Healing the emotional conflict certainly doesn’t hurt a person’s chances of healing physically, and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that it is helpful, but we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims.

In the above paragraph Lenora has basically renounced and discredited all the work by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurt and their Healing Metaphors/Healing Keys. This had the SALPOV stamp of approval but looks like it has been thrown under the bus. It it ever gets revived, remember Lenora has gone on record as saying "we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims."
 
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The bloggers claim that us looking at the metaphors of illness with people (similar to Louise Hay’s work) is actually us blaming them for having their symptoms. This, of course, would have no value for the client – blaming a person for their illness is completely counterproductive to their healing and wellbeing. Taking accountability, on the other hand, gives the client power in their life.

The Louise Hay influence, and the connection with ethnocide and genocide, was addressed in the following post--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289)

It should go without saying that guilt is the primary lure the Spezzanos use as their bait on the hook to land the souls of their wealthy victims.

One former trainer told one of our comrades that he regarded the guilt-inducing Healing Metaphors as the weakest and most vulnerable aspect of SALPOV theology. He also thought the religious overtones were too stifling.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 01:38:29 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 13

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What Happened in 2004 with The State of Hawaii Regarding Chuck’s Status As A Psychologist?

Nothing at all. We were marginally involved with a custody battle many years before, in that we wrote letters of support for a woman in relation to the child custody case with her ex-husband. The ex-husband’s lawyer claimed that, because our Psychology of Vision logo was on our stationary, that the logo meant we were both claiming to be licensed psychologists; so the judge ruled our letters were inadmissible, even though Chuck signed his letter “Chuck Spezzano, Ph.D., M.F.C.C.” and I signed “Lency Spezzano, M.Sc.” As it turned out, our letters did not figure into the final outcome, because the judge ruled in favor of the wife anyway.

This unfortunate episode is apparently much more involved than the brief and uncaring brushoff given here by Lenora Kay Spezzano--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37415#msg37415 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37415#msg37415)

Hey, a guy died here by his own hand way too young. And he accused the Spezzanos of lying. I think Steve Tipaldi deserves a bit more consideration than the nonchalant disregard exhibited here by Lenora.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 02:00:19 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 14


"Let them eat cake!" she proclaims with her nose in air and a delicate wave of her hand, dismissing the "trivial"--

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Sillier Stuff

In addition to these untruths, there are a number of accusations that do not warrant more than a brief answer. The blogs continually churn up nonsensical accusations, and I suppose addressing them would be a continuous process. Let me just address some of the initial suggestions, as I understand the whole strategy has morphed into hooking Native Hawaiians into the movement against us, and I may have to start the response anew.

Oh God, now we have to deal with the Native Hawaiians who we swiped stuff from! When will this Hell ever end?

The Spezzanos have inappropriately appropriated native Hawaiian culture into their theology, as outlined earlier on this forum. Lenora can blame us for pointing this out, but this is part of our role as public educators. I am glad to see we made an impact here.

 
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Does the Psychology of Vision Promote Cultural Ethnocide in First Nations Communities?  No.

Yes.

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Are PoV 100 Day Graduates Sent Out into The Field as Trainers?   No.

Are There California Superior Court Charges Against Chuck Spezzano?  No.

Is the Psychology of Vision Guilty of Affinity Fraud, Pyramids or Ponsie Schemes?  No.

The German language SALPOV Trainers Manual, Section K, can serve as Exhibit #1 in an affinity fraud case, I would wager.

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Does Chuck Recommend Practicing An Altered State of Consciousness While Driving A Vehicle, And Do PoV Seminar Participants Have A Higher Number of Vehicular Accidents?  No and no.

Actually, I'd like to see statistical research for this, using Haida Gwaii as a case study. I would encourage the RCMP to look into this.

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Are Chuck And Lency Connected with The Inner Healing Movement?  No.

Two responses, one from Piff, another from myself--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37383#msg37383 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37383#msg37383)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37389#msg37389 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37389#msg37389)

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Is Chuck The Equivalent of The Psychopath Charles Manson?  No.

Do Psychology of Vision Trainers Have to Meet Annual Requirements for The Number of Trainings They Teach?  No.

She's dancing around on this one. The English language SALPOV Trainers Manual is filled with a long list of annual requirements for trainers, including a very steep "license fee" and compulsory attendance at monthly and annual ritualistic indoctrination sessions.

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Do Chuck and Lency Spezzano Invoke the Name of Jesus in Their Joining Sessions, or Claim to Channel Jesus Energy?  No.

They don't have to. Remember, A Course in Miracles was scribed by Jesus himself.

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Do Lency and Chuck Spezzano Use Hypnosis on Residential School Survivors Who May Eventually Be Involved in Court Action?  No.

What an interesting thing to bring up. I wonder why she did? And what is with capitalising all the key words throughout this chapter?

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 07, 2014, 02:05:53 am
The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 15

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In Conclusion


It is my hope that I have answered the many allegations against Chuck and me in a way that makes it clear, to those who are searching for the truth, that the lies presented against us do not register concern, but constitute completely fabricated stories meant to do harm, rather than to protect. To my knowledge, we have never had a complaint from a First Nations person about their experience in a seminar. Quite the opposite – as I expressed earlier – we have been highly honored and appreciated by First Nations and other Indigenous peoples, agencies and individuals for our pro-bono work through the years. And the opportunity for us to be helpful in this way has been an honor.

Our primary focus has been to help people heal their heartbreaks and all forms of suffering, and raise the level of collective consciousness on the planet. I thank you for reading my response to its conclusion. If you would like to learn even more about Psychology of Vision and its Trainers, please visit us at psychologyofvision.com (http://psychologyofvision.com).

With love,
Lency Spezzano, for the Psychology of Vision Trainers’ Association

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on July 08, 2014, 12:31:00 am
after reading all the research , opinions , evaluations and summations about this group, the one thing that stands out is these spezzano's are masters of denial.if there is something negative about them they deflect and blame someone else,
 they say no one has ever complained or reported problems from PoV involvement, yey there are many reports on this nafps site,and other people brought forward concerns and problems about PoV involvement,and as usual did nothing, this is only one reason these PoV people are dangerous.
 and they prove themselves to be incredibly bad liars. here is on big important example of lency and chuck lying to deflect ,blame others or they themselve just aren't getting it as they say about others incluc=ding people having problems,
here are some other links other than the german trainers manual describing targeting first nations.
here is Melissa Meyer letter that describes how they're (PoV) going to cure first nations so they can go back to their outlying villages and teach PoV so every one will get along..to me this is an outright admission to target first nations

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf

here is a grant to an outpost group for PoV called the ngystle society, the money is meant to heal residential school survivors with PoV.. we can ask the value for dollar for this rss healing, how many rss got real trained help,or how many were actually recruited, if there were very few rss that signed up, where did the rest of the money go and who spent it. this shows one amount of the dollar value involved with first nations and PoV

http://www.ahf.ca/funded-projects/british-columbia/ngystle-society

here is the PoV outpost group showing advertising for chuck spezzano and PoV ,this ngystle society is on the Haida indian reserve and shows how PoV has a foothold on and over a first nations culture

 Lency Spezzano says NO we are not like charles manson, but i can't help but think is lency becoming charles manson like?? what is the next step with imbedded commands in her victims.?? these people do need to be watched and possibly charged with an affinity fraud charge for misappropriated funding like targeting of residential school survivors.
   Lency's posting all this nonsense on the internet that probably doesn't make sense to anyone with a critical mind..maybe if she knew what she was talking about she would not post her nonsense that her devotees have to eat up and act like she is saying something profound and a wonderful way to live, this is unrealistic to her devotees to follow but follow they have to if they want to advance in their controversial group
  Lency appears to be loosing her mind and this is what she's passing on to her "advanced trainers" and her 100 plus days of actual workshop grads who signed up to eat the PoV shit.
 how are her devotees going to be able to handle what amounts to nothing but fantasy, oh yeah , i forgot that Lency is one of the ones that says It's all an illusion, maybe that will be their statement if they ever get to court,... it's not true, it's all an illusion. this might make more than one devotee nuts and insane in their heads
 what's really  proving to be an illusion about PoV is people being led to believe that they are licensed psychologists with their fancy advertising and people are being led to believe they're getting healed .as shown in this video that a real medical doctor said it's obvious babs stevens is getting BRAINWASHED. the doctor said part of their training was to recognize brainwashing. is this what anyone wants to happen to them , where they end up in psychology of vision like this willing victim.? what is the ultimate goal of these spezzanos ? turn everyone into people like this haida woman?? and the spezzanos call this brainwashing performance  cutting edge healing? from what i see , i can freely say it looks to me like babs stevens is getting her mind flushed out and replaced with the imbedded command  - "there's only one of us here" probably so she can think she doesn't have to be accountable to anyone in her job position, she is made to r=think she can do whatever she wants, i bet she was targeted for this because of her job position, i fail to see how any of the spezzano "teachings" can be called healing. can the spezzanos' prove this is healing by providing a written evaluation of themselves by a credible educated licensed institution,
if you haven;t seen this or any of lency spezzanos' videos, be forewarned it is very disturbing to watch another human being put through whatever lency spezzano calls it .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY

   the real truth about Chuck and Lency Spezzanos' Psychology of Vision is NO ONE SEEMS TO GET HEALED, they have to keep returning and it costs a lot of money to be one of their victims, think about it... stay away from these people.., their advanced trainers and 100 plus day grads are programmed to recruit you, that's obvio  if you read the research about PoV. anyone indoctrinated into PoV is programmed to recruit by helping put on workshops and pushing the PoV dogma onto the public to bring up the numbers, it's all written in their trainers manual, following PoV is an unrealistic way to live a life,especially if you have a familty you will always leave to attend the needed workshops, all the money spent on PoV would be better and more wisely spent on your real blood family. not the super dysfunctional family the spezzanos created and want you to join

this comment from lency caught my attention...

Is Chuck The Equivalent of The Psychopath Charles Manson?  No.

did anyone have an idea charles mansons group was going to end up doing what they did.?? this is only one example of death and murder from cult involvement, and is an excelent example of why cults are no good, if lency says charles spezzano is not like charles manson, what is to stop charles spezzano and his group from becoming charles manson like ??
all cults need to be watched ,observed and exposed because who knows what the next step will be with the induced psychosis put into the "participants'



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on July 11, 2014, 06:55:30 pm



https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)


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Is Lency Spezzano Merely A Stage Hypnotist?


First, it’s important to know that what we are doing in this process is “joining” – which is the simplest, yet most powerful healing method that I know of. All that is required is to relate to another person (or group of people) in a horizontal manner – recognizing that, although all human beings are unique, at a deeper level we are the same, and we are all connected.

So, to return to the videos, which focus on one form of joining, the reason I ask for that assistance is because I, like most people, am “right eyed” in the same way that I, like most people, am right handed. So, if the person looks into my left eye, which is not my dominant eye, we aren’t really looking straight at each other. With both of the other person’s eyes looking into my right eye, I can look back into their left eye, the “window of the soul,” to see their pain; this is physically evident in the pupil of the eye, which takes a different aperture according to what the person is feeling.



If you starr in someones eyes you can force someone into freeze, maybe. A situiation in freeze this "victim" is helpless, can´t react, can´t move, can´t step out, maybe fear of passed events comes up, and he cannot control this situation anymore.... this could happen .... and this could end in a terrible situation. For someone who was taumatized he could feel this helplessness in the same way as he was in this terrible situation happened long time ago, where he felt life - threatening, reacted with freeze, fight or flight. In L. S. starring stage this feeling could come up again, helpless, life - threatening ....

I cannot imagine that L. S. just need to look in the eyes to feel the pain, I cannot believe she recognizes this in the pupil, ... there are surely more signs she uses to recognizes when someone feels fear, anger, sadness, ... . and the crowed around forces the "victim" deeper in this helpless situation, presented in its exposed situation.

I know about this starring at people, ... in my opinion noone should use "starring" in a contact with people with mental issues, never, never, especially if someone (think) he / she acts as a therapist .... but a therapist himself must standby a situation if a person with mental issues starres at him. Reverse effect in POV trainer - philosophy?

The "victim" is not in the same level as the other, how could this be?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on July 11, 2014, 10:21:43 pm
 if you take time to look at those frighteningly weird videos of her "downloading" and "joining" youtubes of Lency and her willing victims, she does the same thing s everytime, in the introductions when she says - Todays your birthday" ,"you can have anything you want" i wonder if those phrases are the magic passwords to send the victims into the state they end up in on the videos ?? the advanced trainers seem so eager to please lency that it appears like a competition to see who can please lency and become just like he the quickest ??
 getting back to a mad threatening dog, that is all lency spezzano reminds me of a predator and exactly like a mad dog, if you have ever seen a dog baring its teeth and intimidating you right up in your fave, just like lency spezzano is doing to those people she has captive under her spell, these people have no choice with her, they have to go through this mental torture and take what she dishes out to them ,they have to listen to her if they want to advance in this controversial high demend group - Psychology of Vision. personally i like to call the spezzano scam- the Psychology of DIVISION. simply because they want to split you from your real family, husband or wife and get you into his "spiritual" family, at all costs ,it doesn't seem to matter how the ends justify the means, there are so many people telling stories how the spezzanos tried to get the "participant to turn against the one they were closest to in their real family, how can this be called heling ? how can these spezzanos still pretend they are doing good and say no one has come forward, well it looks like there are many people ,it even made it on APTN tv under plastic healers on Haida Gwaii and these spezzanos still say it'e the victims fault
i hope the nafps research site grows in the numbers of people researching this group and make a good critical and now informed consent about joining Pov, the spazzanos themselves look like they would give informed consent about themselves. nor provide you with life insurance for you when you have problems,
nor do they provide proper after care other than their advanced trainers and 100 plus day workshop grads that are much less qualified than the leaders of this cult, chuck and lency,both chuck and lency do not have credible licenses for being psychologists but deceive the public they are with their slick internet ads,
  when you research frauds and cults ,you learn how to read through the fancy puff talk internet ads and learn what questions to ask the group, and we have the right to ask all the questions we can and to get truthful hones answers to everyone of them, not get glowing testimonials from people that have been victims for 20 or more years of involvement, these people will never say anything bad about any experience with PoV, they are not allowed to, the fact that lency posted her "truth about chuck and lency" should raise the red flag real high about what she's trying to protect,
 the spezzanos say they're being attacked by people researching and exposing them ,
 ignorance about any cultist , controversial group is a danger to the public, if you're planning on bettering your life.. it is well worth it to research everything you can about the group before you sign up and risk your mental and financial health,
 there are some that will lead you into a deep emotional money trap, research PoV well ,it looks like the only good thing said about PoV is from themselves advanced trainers and 100 plus days of actual workshop grads, there is nothing written by qualified ,educated licensed professional people in this field and i highly doubt that you will
 
 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 12, 2014, 04:22:28 am
Days of Wine and Roses With Spezzano and Associates Psychology of Vision

A couple interesting recent SALPOV generated online documents have grabbed our attention. Here's the first one from Facebook--

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July 4
You know lency there is this massive pattern of god damm powerlessness going on, Powerless people attack people to assert position for whatever reason and there are many. Sometimes to defend yourself is so, sometimes not. Some want a good fight as it puts the light on you and how bad you are so they don't got to look bad. People try to hide there mistakes we all do, and while actions are not always acceptable, see the feelings behind them..and just choose to be powerful and shine..powerful in our own way..sometimes when you withdraw your investment in those who have attacked you are giving them no more permission and they have nothing to fight against as you wont unless necessary..so they might as well give up..as i won't its not giving up but getting on with life, and enjoying the best and best to come and feeling awfully sorry for those who do that crap. I have at times.. but not to level of nastiness. Good to have caring people in the world..most of all they never win...as you are not fighting..they play and abuse only themselves..

    2 people like this.
    Lency Spezzano Yes, all very true, and I am well beyond that stage. I have been reaping many gifts from the attack. Most recently, it has brought to mind the awareness of how much disapproval I faced in my childhood so that it can be healed.

    July 4 at 2:36pm · 1
    Lency Spezzano I know that everything that happens to me is happening because it is in my best interests. I do not feel defensive, and have not. I made the website so that students can refer their family and friends to it if they become concerned. It is hard enough for them to be on a spiritual path without this kind of nastiness.

    July 4 at 2:37pm · 2
    Lency Spezzano But for me, the gifts I have received are precious: I no longer care what people think of me, and I have been freed from many attachments, such as having a good name and reputation, being seen as truthful, etc.

    July 4 at 2:37pm · 1
    Elna Macdonald Lency and Chuck I love you

    July 4 at 11:22pm
    Lency Spezzano Hi Laura,

    July 5 at 3:34am
    Lency Spezzano I appreciate your willingness to empathize with me, Laura, but you didn't catch any of my feelings. I'm okay. Emotional waves do come and go, but as elements of higher consciousness and healing. Your coaching is to someone not me, or my experience. But I appreciate the love behind it. xxxxxxx

    July 5 at 3:37am

    Laura Madley
    July 5 at 5:44am

So nice to hear Lenora is finding our observations to be of good use, reaping the rewards of our criticism. This admission should weaken any legal case she would endeavor to press against those of us who happily dwell in the dark astral forces as we celebrate being free human beings using the critical minds God gave us. It all works out to be mutually beneficial. That nasty bogus legal letter to our comrades in Haida Gwaii from Lenora was obviously a mistake. 

Note this: "I am well beyond that stage"; "I do not feel defensive, and have not."; "I no longer care what people think of me, and I have been freed from many attachments, such as having a good name and reputation, being seen as truthful, etc."; "Your coaching is to someone not me, or my experience."

There is no way Lenora is going to allow herself to be in a position of weakness to be comforted and receive advice by underlings. That would undermine her authority, which in turn would hurt her brand and ability to pose as Queen Bee demanding expensive tribute in the form of SALPOV fees and licenses. 

You would think by now, after decades of "downloads" and having been "enlightened," Lenora Kay Spezzano would be way past still having to resolve childhood disapproval. But noooooo. See, the process never ends. That's why you still need to keep coming back to SALPOV and emptying your savings into the Spezzano bank account.

According to this video, Lenora's main childhood disapproval came from her mother. Start at about 9:30. A performance worthy of an audition for an Ed Wood film.

http://vimeo.com/98423979   (http://vimeo.com/98423979)

Let us combine this with the July 9 post by Charles Lee Spezzano--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/07/london_9.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChuckandLencyRSS+%28Chuck+and+Lency+Spezzano+RSS%29 (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/07/london_9.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChuckandLencyRSS+%28Chuck+and+Lency+Spezzano+RSS%29)

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The workshop and the lecture here in London were really fun, deep and full of grace. We dealt with all manner of the Dead Zone issues, such as fusion, roles, rules duties, co-dependency, the Oedipal Conspiracy, competition, scarcity, stress, the Family Conspiracy. It was light and easy and done much differently than I usually do workshops. It was more like an Apprenticeship without so much homework. It was light, fun and easy…It is always so much fun for me in London with so many friends here. I have been to London and environs 80 plus times since 1983. It feels like home. The first time I came here in '83 I was interested to see if I could feel the English side of me. My mother's maiden name was Shelton and her mother's maiden name was Cooper…The English side of me doesn't show but I feel it. I have always been warmly received here. They do appreciate a well presented idea. Lency arrived yesterday from Hawaii getting ready for her 5 day Women's Workshop. We picked her up and got her settled in the hotel to sleep till today when I showed up.
Last night after settling Lency in we had a wine tasting of 6 italian wines…It was an Italian night with Robert Holden, who works a lot with Hay House, cooking up a very special 4 course italian meal…Wow ! What a night…sometimes i drank water just to surprise my liver. The red wines were very big and robust. So much good wine…Our host Tony Prior led us in a grand evening. Matthew Lizzie Prior's fiancé was also there for the first time to one of our wine tastings where I was present also. if you are going to be drinking fine wines you want to be in the company of fine people like I was last night…So, here I am in my hotel room waiting for Lency to wake up so we can have our all day date….Oh, Boy!!
In the meantime I thought I would add a little to my blog other than my card for the day. I usually donate all my time to the books I am writing. so many books and they are trying to push through all at once. Right now I am working on 12 different books. I finished one yesterday. It 's the latest card deck-- HEALING THE IDOLS DECK… it is a book that explores the unconscious key element that is always present in any pain or upset. Idols hide right in front of us and they are buried at unconscious levels also. This card deck gives us a way to understand, find and heal idols... We still need an artist which my publisher, Urania,promised would happen easily and quickly. This is a major healing work that opens up spiritual areas of the mind also. I would guess it will appear in Germany this next year.
 I think it is time for me to pull out some of my writing and do a bit of catching up. I wrote the titles for about 3 dozen new chapters since just before I left on this trip. I have had so many creative ideas  with relatively little time to write. It always feels so good to write…I also have another book here for editing…
I will leave you with one thought that came from a t-shirt I was given 25 years ago…Good boys go to Heaven…Bad boys go to London…
Somehow I always keep going back to London…
Love You,
Chuck

Yes, Charles is a Bad Boy, but not in the romanticised way he portrays himself. More in the way I would suspect the RCMP and a few other governmental agencies are probably profiling him.

Interesting that Lenora brings up Mother problems at the same time Charles tells us as he brown-noses to his London readers, "The first time I came here in '83 I was interested to see if I could feel the English side of me. My mother's maiden name was Shelton and her mother's maiden name was Cooper…The English side of me doesn't show but I feel it." Now how many years have these clowns been posing as family relationship experts and they STILL have Mother Issues?!?

How can Charles and Lenora pose as surrogate parents for all vulnerable easy marks when they themselves still have major unresolved guilt on their feminine parental influences? I say "guilt" because, according the Charles, all problems boil down to that emotion.

There are a couple other fawning and really self-destructive comments undermining the "professional" image myth made by Charles here. Hay House and hustling his yet unpublished Healing the Idols deck. He did it to himself. The man is such a New Age panderer, known as "Chuckster the Huckster" by others in the New Age community, and for good reason. Tarot-like card sets might be a good seller, but it certainly does not inspire confidence in regarding the creator of this parlor game as a professional in the field of psychology, which is how the Spezzanos desperately want to be regarded. The 3-card trick could just as easily be performed by a slot machine in Nevada. I never cease to be astounded by the gullibility of Spezzano's cult followers to accept the random game as a true sign of what they need. This is a very neat, and I suspect lucrative, scam.

The cheery and glowing references to alcohol are so telling and reveal Charles to be utterly unprofessional. As a supposed family therapist he should know about the incredibly destructive and widespread power of alcohol and alcoholism on family dynamics. Yet we see alcohol consumption as a form of celebration time and again throughout SALPOV images and text. The impact of alcohol on FN communities is particularly devastating. The Spezzano encouragement of alcohol consumption by example can be viewed as yet another form of insensitive psychocolonisation.

I know the drugs pushed by a cult rival of the Spezzanos, Erick Gonzalez on Haida Gwaii might be more exotic, but the fact remains alcohol is by far the most destructive drug of all in the long run, and appears to be culturally promoted by Charles Lee Spezzano (to prove he's a "real man"?) with little regard for his audience. And why is that? Because SALPOV is all about Charles Lee and Lenora Kay Spezzano.  Cultural sensitivity, individual needs, human dignity, who needs that stuff? Those little annoying details-- for example officially registering your "charities" or applying for professional licenses, these things just add a layer of complication that get in the way of making a bigger profit margin, so why bother?   

According to Lenora's recent screed--

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Chuck was employed as a psychologist by the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center at the Naval Air Station Miramar, in San Diego, from 1973-79, and he also became an instructor at the Naval Drug and Alcohol Counseling School, their program to train Navy therapists, from 1974-79. 

A "psychologist"? Really? And if he was employed as a drug rehabilitation person, then why is he today celebrating the consumption of alcohol with his emotionally wounded clients who, many of whom I would wager have experienced the torture of living with or being themselves an alcoholic?

His YouTube on "Intervention" comes across as quite insincere given his many online references to appreciating the qualities of drinking spirits. We have seen photo after photo of SALPOV dinners where the wine flows as freely as the SALPOV fabrications. Maybe an intervention on Charles himself is in order here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusW2hVEN-A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KusW2hVEN-A)

If you are considering signing up with SALPOV, and if part of the dysfunctional family dynamics that you experienced involved a family member who suffered from alcoholism or if you yourself exhibit these traits and are seeking help, then obviously Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision is not the place for you. Seek help from a REAL professional experienced with treating addictions-- and this includes alcohol, tobacco, gambling, smoking frog venom and misusing other drugs, seeking approval from those who cannot give it, co-dependency, worshiping false idols (like the Spezzanos), relinquishing cash to con artists for vaporware, whatever.

But, if you are the kind of person who enjoys pouring money down a rathole, then SALPOV is the right place for you!


 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on July 12, 2014, 09:15:02 am
if you take time to look at those frighteningly weird videos of her "downloading" and "joining" youtubes of Lency and her willing victims, she does the same thing s everytime, in the introductions when she says - Todays your birthday" ,"you can have anything you want" i wonder if those phrases are the magic passwords to send the victims into the state they end up in on the videos ??


This phrases can be used as a trigger which can starts a programm, on which a victim is conditioned. But I would not say if POV is acting in this way for I got not enough knowledge about their way of practicing (I´ve never been ther) and I don´t know ist there any evidence about a practicing "brainwash". In generell this is possible. Cults and satanic cults are working with it.

In the movies I see that L. S. behaviour is peculiar, staginess.... strange. Does C. S not see this, as a studied psychologist he must have been taken attentively to this behaviour...... L.S. falls a victim by herself or ....

This form of "entlightening" could help people to develop an unsocial behaviour with lack of understanding that an act is unlawful, they don´t care and feel anymore if they harm someone else. A relationship is becoming impossible.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on July 12, 2014, 06:26:43 pm
   after reading more research and opinions,summations and educated evaluations about these spezzanos, i do not see any thing that could be classified as an "attack" on them , there is no meanness or hatred said in any post written anywhere about them, yet they say they're under "attack" . i am beginning to wonder if this is a blatant message for that disciples to go and take up battle stations and go into more of their threatening and bullying behavior to those that question or have critical thoughts about PoV.
 all i see written is researched and documented facts and educated opinions about PoV that is all meant for public education and informed consent about the Psychology of vision cult group that the unsuspecting public needs to know about. not an attack as lency is projecting out to PoV devotees,
 it's obvious PoV and their advanced trainers and 100 plus day grads will not tell you the real truth behind PoV, they are too heavily indoctrinated to make any critical objective comment or evaluation about PoV, instead they will try to recruit you, probably they're so heavily indoctrinated they aren't aware of themselves that they're recruiting you, at this stage with 20 plus years of PoV "workshops" we can safely bet that these people are heavily programmed and indoctrinated  to support at all costs the PoV leaders and their imbedded belief system - psychology of vision,
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 13, 2014, 03:47:41 am
Here's a curious SALPOV find. The Rev. Mahara Brenna of Vancouver, BC makes a couple references to our subject in an interesting context. She is an "International Facilitator, Holistic Rebirther, Multi-Faith Minister, Community Builder and Mediator." Not sure what her connection to SALPOV might be. My intention here is not to knock Rev. Brenna's deal at all, but merely to point out she presents yet another perspective and view on how SALPOV fits into the New Age universe.

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AS A HOLISTIC REBIRTHER Mahara assists people to heal emotionally and spiritually. By employing the connected breathing pattern or Rebirthing breath in conjunction with “Psychology of Vision™” reprogramming, one releases the wounds of the past, and frees the body to begin its healing. The inner Light of the Soul is liberated and the natural wisdom stored in the body emerges.

A 3-hour private session consists of counseling, family of origin exploration, Rebirthing, reprogramming of limited core-beliefs, and integration into present time aspects of the Self that have been lost along the way.

Life is an ongoing journey of death and rebirth. To the degree we allow ourselves to continually shed old skins, we awaken new energies, aliveness, creativity and spiritual awareness. Rebirthing deepens our gratitude for life and connection to the magnificence of Source that dwells within us and all around us.

       Individual 3 hour Session= $275.
    Couples Mediation 3 hour Session= $350. [includes preparation]

http://www.maharabrenna.com/rebirther.php (http://www.maharabrenna.com/rebirther.php)

Compared to the over $1000 an hour Charles Lee Spezzano charges for a personal consultation, her fees look downright reasonable. I'm interested in how she can deploy SALPOV and advertise this programme in her workshop without, apparently, being a trainer and being forced to pay the incredibly expensive "license fee" the Spezzano's require.

Also, note the use of the word "reprogramming." Perhaps in New Age circles that word has a positive glow. But for those of us not immersed in the esoteric terminology of that insulated and isolated subculture, for those of us who talk in plain English, this word has a very negative impact. It smacks of brainwashing and conditioning. Although perhaps she didn't mean it in that way, using the phrase "Psychology of Vision reprogramming" comes across as quite accurate to me.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on July 13, 2014, 12:28:50 pm
 Quote: "after reading more research and opinions,summations and educated evaluations about these spezzanos, i do not see any thing that could be classified as an "attack" on them , there is no meanness or hatred said in any post written anywhere about them, yet they say they're under "attack" ."

The critics are all attacs of the way POV is working and treating people, they are C. and L. S. who are acting, they are standing behind their life - work, they believe in that ... I can understand if they feel attact by others criticism ....


Quote: "Here's a curious SALPOV find. The Rev. Mahara Brenna of Vancouver, BC makes a couple references to our subject in an interesting context. She is an "International Facilitator, Holistic Rebirther, Multi-Faith Minister, Community Builder and Mediator." Not sure what her connection to SALPOV might be. My intention here is not to knock Rev. Brenna's deal at all, but merely to point out she presents yet another perspective and view on how SALPOV fits into the New Age universe.

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    AS A HOLISTIC REBIRTHER Mahara assists people to heal emotionally and spiritually. By employing the connected breathing pattern or Rebirthing breath in conjunction with “Psychology of Vision™” reprogramming, one releases the wounds of the past, and frees the body to begin its healing. The inner Light of the Soul is liberated and the natural wisdom stored in the body emerges."

http://www.maharabrenna.com/rebirther.php


Also, note the use of the word "reprogramming." Perhaps in New Age circles that word has a positive glow. But for those of us not immersed in the esoteric terminology of that insulated and isolated subculture, for those of us who talk in plain English, this word has a very negative impact. It smacks of brainwashing and conditioning. Although perhaps she didn't mean it in that way, using the phrase "Psychology of Vision reprogramming" comes across as quite accurate to me.


"programming" and "deprogramming" are - among others - terminology of psychology. "Trigger, Programming and Conditioning" are used by offenders in cults, etc with highly effective. It is horrible.

In traumapsychology therapists use "de-programming" to solve and delete a "programming" of an offender who left this in a victim.
"Re-programming" I cannot find as a terminoloy of psychology and as I understand this word I see there no good results. As I understand "Re-programming" means to programm something new or twist the existing programming into another muster without solve and delete. I can see there a connection POV and Rebirthing.... in a lot of esoteric ways .... not good...
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on July 13, 2014, 05:13:01 pm
 these critical evaluations educated comments about PoV are attacks on lency and chuck... then i can see these as attacks are for the common good of all the people to learn about chuck and lency, there is something just not right about chuck and lence with their trade mark name for their business-psychology of vision, people are getting hurt and running into problems from involvement in pov and these spezzanos are not listening or trying to fix the problems people are having.
 people need real professional help, not some repetitious dogma over and over again until they're indoctrinated to believe the dogma and they're healed PoV is  now a known cult - psychology of vision is a cult.
  if and when real professional people decide to critique this high demand group and come to the same conclusions as this and other forums talking public education and informed consent .. how can that be considered an attack ?? 
  there are people that commented about their negative experiences with pov, this is their right and they have every right to be angry, and make this personal, but instead choose to do public education so people do not fall into the same emotional , financial trap they did by joining PoV thinking they would make their lives  better , it didn't and there was no proper professional help for them, insted they were blemed shunned and even ridiculed by PoV devotees , so they spoke up, and lency and chuck are not listening, hopefully people considering joing PoV are reading and listening to what is being researched and published about PoV.
 i would like to add that the research is very well done by absolutely credible researchers , the RCMP support the researchers, saying everything written is 100% true and accurate, so it looks like the RCMP did their own evaluation, maybe there will be more news from the RCMP to follow.
  it looks like these spezzano's are so locked into their own egos and controlling the "ones" they already collected into their indoctrination that they forgot about the other people, they're not listening to the other people, i wonder why they can't take the time to listen to people with problems stemming fron PoV involvement, maybe they are at least smart enough to know they are unqualified to fix damaged minds,
 the spazzanos had this saying - "there is only one of us here" . i don't know if this is a subliminal imbedded command put into their victims so PoV and the deciples don't have to be accountable to others for their harm done, or it frees up the "advanced trainers/recruiters' to do what they want to support and push PoV onto people in indian villages to access government funding ? there might be more to this command when implanted into PoV victims.
well .... here is another fact.
THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF US
and we have the rights to speak up voice opinions ask questions ' make summations and evaluations and best of all.. we have a right to be heard. thankfully our audience is growing,

 i wonder if these spezzanos ,the 'advanced trainer" and the 100 plus days workshop grads listened to the people having problems instead of blaming, ignoring shunning and making mean lies about them. .. if they took care of their participants and fixed what made them have problems, would these "attack" be happening,??
their own "laws of attraction" at work i guess,
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on July 14, 2014, 01:55:35 am
   

 Lency Spezzano Yes, all very true, and I am well beyond that stage. I have been reaping many gifts from the attack. Most recently, it has brought to mind the awareness of how much disapproval I faced in my childhood so that it can be healed.

    July 4 at 2:36pm · 1
    Lency Spezzano I know that everything that happens to me is happening because it is in my best interests. I do not feel defensive, and have not. I made the website so that students can refer their family and friends to it if they become concerned. It is hard enough for them to be on a spiritual path without this kind of nastiness.

these above  comments are quite disturbing to me, the first shows me the spezzanos are on a mission of negligence about again not listening to people that developed problems from PoV and it's still all about themselves, the victims have to eat this up too, instead of learning from it, seeing lency telling her minions that she "learned from the attack" i wonder if she realized at what age she learned to lie and blame the victim
maybe she should send a payment to sandy s for helping her in her "healing"

 the idea that lency wrote her "truth about Lency and chuck" for her devotees and their families instead of providing written evidence about psychology of vision being a good group for people to really learn about hopefully the family members concerned about PoV know that all all lency wrote is nothing but puff talk using people heavily indoctrinated in PoV to write their glowing "testimonials" for lency to make themselves look good and credible

  the only reason wrote and published that site ..to keep her paying customers exactly that paying customers, nothing more nothing less, this makes me wonder about how good lency spezzanos critical thinking is, if she can't see how shallow her ploy is to convince her victims families that maybe facing emotion and financial problems trying to stay in Pov that they are a good healthy group worth staying in.
 
 hopefully the victims family members still have their critical thinking and haven't been indoctrinated by the family member to not make an objective decision about PoV

 i've read where people are having trouble fitting back into their life before these 10 day workshops, some having trouble within their own families, PoV has this thing called "emoting" where the victims are always crying and they have to figure out why they're crying, any little simple thing can trigger them to cry, how can this be classified as a healing method, programming these people to think they're healing by crying over anything and =then figure out why they're crying ,then made to believe they're they're healing. if you ask anyone in the real healing field, everyone of them will tell you this is wrong and outright dangerous to the victim.
i can't help but think it must be embarrassing to be reduced to this state and paying big money for it too,

the more i learn about PoV the more i want to yell out to everyone seeking to better their lives to
choose carefully, stay away from damaging frauds , at least ask if they're licensed and qualified to fix peoples minds,  everyone has the right to know truthful answers.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 14, 2014, 03:29:26 am
Words, words, words. When it comes to the SALPOV systematic psychocolonisation of Haida Gwaii, according to the blueprint as outlined in the German language Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual, Section K, we can present all the text documentation we want but it would have little effect. The language is dry and the bureaucracy and hierarchy is Byzantine. Contrary to what Lenora Kay Spezzano claims, SALPOV is hardly a level corporation.

But back to words. That's right. In order to truly appreciate just how some Haida leaders are being manipulated, there is no substitute for Lenora Kay Spezzano's "downloading/joining" Youtubes. This is a case where seeing is believing.

The victim here is Babs Stevens. Here is Bab's LinkedIn information--

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        Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator at Psychology of Vision Trainer, Skidegate Band Council CAO
        Leadership and Business at Skidegate Band Council

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Babs Stevens' Experience
Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator
Psychology of Vision Trainer, Skidegate Band Council CAO

1972 – Present (42 years)
Leadership and Business
Skidegate Band Council

And here is her Twitter autobiography--

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Babs Stevens
@babsstevens

Psychology of Vision Trainer and Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver.
Skidegate, Haida Gwaii
Joined March 2009

Does Babs have any respected academic credentials that enable her to be giving therapy or healing of any kind? Apparently not. This is a very common weakness of most SALPOV trainers. For the most part, they are unqualified to be doing what they are doing, just as the Spezzanos are. SALPOV training does not count in the real world. I know, I know, Lenora says nothing is real. And as far as having SALPOV certificates on your resume, she's right! SALPOV actually is an acronym for Spezzanos Always Love Profit Over Virtue.

Apparently Babs has not caught up to the order issued from Hawaii that any reference by SALPOV trainers to their strong philosophical debt to Oneness University needs to be purged Kim Jong-un style. That Deeksha and Oneness Blessing stuff is so 2007. In fact, it never existed, don'tcha know?

The really sad part concerning what you are about to watch is that Babs is in a position of political authority on Haida Gwaii, and we see her being totally manipulated and controlled by a wealthy American (Protestant raised) white woman who has no clue about Haida culture. In short, she is an Ugly American who knows with missionary zeal what is best for all of you unfortunate non-white non-Americans.

From a poem I recall long ago, or least my best recollection:

All men are brothers, White Anglo Saxon Protestants, and others.
We are all One in his sight, White Anglo Saxon Protestants, and those who are non-white.


This video serves as a perfect symbolic microexample of how SALPOV has been attempting to get a foothold in FN culture. In surrendering her personal power and dignity to Lenora Kay Spezzano, Babs is, by extension of her position of public trust, handing over Haida Gwaii as well. Some would call this video a good court exhibit for an affinity fraud trial--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

Here are some details I notice from this YouTube--

The camera zeroes in on Lenora most of the time. The victim is secondary. In all of these "downloading/joining" pieces, Lenora is the star. The subject of the brainwashing is not important.

Babs is not really allowed to speak for herself. Everything she says is restated and transliterated by Lenora to fit SALPOV dogma.

Babs is subjected to stage direction by Lenora as her hand microphone is adjusted (1:35 and 1:55) and she is told what camera to look into (9:47). It is obvious Babs is merely a small prop being used for a broader agenda.

The fun really starts at 5:30 when the "Bliss Music" starts. It takes about a minute for Lenora's hypnosis to really take effect. After 6:35 Babs is pretty much a quivering wreck for the remainder of the almost 14 minute piece. She looks dazed, disoriented, and acts like Renfield to Lenora's Dracula.

As the "Bliss Music" plays on, SALPOV trainer Melissa Meyer joins in the scene, and the camera pans on the quivering people in the audience who apparently have money to burn in order to attend this freak show. At 13:05 Lenora calls Melissa "my daughter." It is that creepy surrogate parent thing going on again, confirming the cult aspect of SALPOV.

Every inhabitant of Haida Gwaii should be required to view this YouTube video. Actually, all of British Columbia should watch this video. What Lenora Kay Spezzano did to Babs Stevens is something she would like to perform on all the people of Haida Gwaii. So hey, does Lenora have a deal for you! Submit yourself to "downloading" and be reduced to a near drooling quivering zombie! And as a bonus you get to be the "child" of an entitled wealthy American! Doesn't that sound like an enlightening experience? 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on July 15, 2014, 06:24:28 pm
I see some reactions different.
L. is always controlling the situation. She is showing her own emotions what her client can understand and maybe ingest. The client showes by her own reflection, in which emotional position she is and L. S. can work with it, this is a work with mirroring, transference and countertransference, L. S can use this to control the situation.

L. S. seems to me in her working way abusive, and in this abusive aggressive (her mimik, lean forward, ...)  . L. S. keeps no distance, she is always behind the border of her client acting in her "aura", (this safe area which tell other people: You can come up to this border, but keep this distance to me I need and do not come closer to me).

In this way L. S. works, a client can be pushed into a high stress level, the client is  as paralyzed, unable to react and realize, she has nearly no chance to change the situation, no matter how painfull it is. In this video her client shows some signals she she cannot stand by this harmfull situation anymore - almost, and it would be the best to break down this circle L. S. creates and controlles. I interpretate the highly stressed situation the client could not stand by her laughing (this can be an overreaction and sometimes it can stops a circle she is dodging in) ... but L. S. don´t let her step out. When L. S. feels she lose the control of her client she moves more foreward. But by her smile (I see there aggressivity in it) she gives the client the feeling L.S is doing the best for her soul... , L. S. don´t let the client decompensate, don´t let her break down at least, ... but almost .... she works at the border of a client, a hard way to got the situation under a totally control. Her client almost decompensate for few times, her stress level was very high. When the client came out of this situation for e. g. with a deep breath (exspiration can facilitate the declamp of a stressed situation) she didn´t seem to me relieved but keeps a hard strain to come through the event she maybe couldn´t realize indeed what happened to her own (this is what I feel). The stress didn´d end, ... well, to breath out can help, but it also can let someone decompensate totaly, if someone got no skill.

And these chairs, what impossible decisions are behind, unbelievable? The chairs can develop the stress level more higher: People need to fixes themselves on the chair not to fall down or they fix their leggs to get contact to some real material (tells them where they are). If someone react with a high sympathetic nervous system the chairs can push this stress and global tonicity higher, in this way a person can be fixed and immured and cannot initiate another reaction anymore, a reaction that could changes something. For both ways of a sympathetic reaction "fight or flight" or the other one "freeze" it can be very harmfull.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 15, 2014, 07:14:33 pm
Although the English language version of the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual has been removed from public view (an action which contradicts the "transparency" SALPOV touts), we can still read the quite revealing following document--

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http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trainer-Application-Process-2015.pdf
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Psychology of Vision Trainer Application Process 2015

Prerequisites of the PoV Trainers’ Training Program

All applicants to the Training Program must have:


-Have graduated from the PoV 100 day Program. (See next page for particulars.)

-Completed teaching the ‘Steps to Leadership’ program SOLO with a minimum of 4 graduating participants by the application due date JULY 1st 2014.

-Applicants for 2015 will need to be in the 2014 PoV Mastery Program. This assures us that the applicant has received PoV’s latest cutting edge work.

Idle hands are the Devil's workshop. At this point it is safe to say the applicant has invested thousands of dollars and hours into supporting this cult. Their ability to think critically by this stage has been squeezed out of their craniums. If any of them who have reached this corporate height manage to step forward and demonstrate the capacity to give us a critical and free opinion of SALPOV, I'll need a defibrillator. It just ain't gonna happen.   

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-Is able to attain and pass on Miracles easily. PoV uses the word miracle as described in the Course in Miracles - receiving a miracle is allowing the indwelling of Spirit through an act of complete forgiveness.

Remember, A Course in Miracles was originally dictated by Jesus the Christ using the humanoid Helen Schucman as His vessel. Just so we are all clear on what SALPOV is based on, other than Oneness University.

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-Have declared in writing by email, to the Trainer Program Director (presently Francine Girard) the intention to apply to the program. The Program Director will announce to the Trainer Community the applicant’s intention to join so that the Trainers are aware of them and give them extra support and feedback. Final due date for this declaration is January 30th 2014.

Francine Girard's rise and role in SALPOV really deserves more attention. Ironically, she lives in the mainland USA (in Everett, Washington, close to Vancouver BC) a place where SALPOV has yet to really take hold. I believe Francine's educational background is in engineering.

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-Read at least three of the Psychology of Vision books written by Chuck and/or Lency Spezzano.

But wait, Lenora told us she and Charles are not on top of the pyramid! I'm confused.
 
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-Access to a computer and familiarity with self-evaluation reporting, e-mail, Skype and the Internet.

-Applicant is required to have a PoV trainer as mentor during the application process. The sessions are to be monthly and the mentor fee is the
responsibility of the applicant.

"Less than a month ago, Santa Mira was like any other town. People with nothing but problems. Then, out of the sky came a solution. Seeds drifting through space for years took root in a farmer's field. From the seeds came pods which had the power to reproduce themselves in the exact likeness of any form of life …Your new bodies are growing in there. They're taking you over cell for cell, atom for atom. There is no pain. Suddenly, while you're asleep, they'll absorb your minds, your memories and you're reborn into an untroubled world...Tomorrow you'll be one of us..."

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THE 100 Day Program Description

Prerequisite and specifications to graduate from the 100 day Program:

-3 apprenticeships, one in Hawaii

-In order to attend an apprenticeship, one has to have done at least 20 days of training in the PoV model, which must include 20 joining session and/or the recommendation of a Psychology of Vision Trainer in order to attend.

A joining session is defined as:

At least 45 minutes long

Downloads may count as long they are at least 45 minutes long, or the whole room, including every participant, got into the miracle.

45 MINUTES long!? These people ARE freakin' out of their tiny little minds. Have you seen any of Lenora's incredibly bizarre YouTube examples of "downloading/joining"? Most normal people can't take just a few minutes of viewing these things.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

No wonder these trainers come across as folks who have had their minds turned to mush. No wonder those "testimonials" come across as lifeless and cookie cutter loyalty oaths. But we are, after all, talking about a cult here.

If you combine the terms "Hypnotherapy" and "Psychology of Vision" in Google you will find numerous Spezzano students who created their own spinoff business and even current trainers in SALPOV (e.g. Avril Woodward) who proudly advertise their hypnotic skills.

"Downloading/Joining" is just hypnosis repackaged, which is not surprising since I have yet to find one single original idea in SALPOV. Everything in it consists of warmed up leftovers from some passé New Age fad. Americans are generally on the "cutting edge" of Nonsense Du Jour, and by the time the Spezzanos catch up the idea is already cold to the wealthy classes that can afford the luxury of this fluff. But not in Asia, or in Germany, or in the UK. See, even if what the Spezzanos do was legal in the USA, which it isn't in most states, then they would be laughed off the stage for their corniness.

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-May be in a group setting or in an individual session.

-DELETE Exceptions only possible if highly recommended by a PoV trainer are and not to be taken lightly.

I think this "DELETE" part was left in there by accident by Francine Girard, who is usually the one who compiles these. Interesting, isn't it? I'm sure there must be a little Drano drama behind this line.

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-Taking STL is mandatory to graduate.

Although STL sounds like an acronymn for a venereal disease, it actually stands for "Steps to Leadership." Frankly, people would be luckier to be subjected to the former rather than the latter.

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-In countries where there is no STL (e.g. Malaysia), students may apply for exceptions in order to be able to graduate from the 100 Day Program. They then might be asked to read a couple of Chuck's or Lency’s books and write a report on them to ensure they are familiar with the
psychological and spiritual dynamics and principles.

We are back in high school, I see. Oh, and I am once again shocked, shocked I tell you, that the writings of Charles and Lenora are required reading, indicating they are on top of the pyramid.   

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-STL can count once as a STL participant and another time if as a STL facilitator.

-The remainder 55 days can be taken with any certified Psychology of Vision Trainer.

-Mini-programs/series count to maximum of 10 days. They must fulfill the series requirements. (See point 4: ‘What Constitute a PoV day’ below).

-Accomplished within 5 years.

The following sections seems so amazingly complicated for such a small organisation. The only thing worse than a large bureaucracy is a small bureaucracy, I always say.

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100 Day Graduation Verification Process


-Counting PoV days is the responsibility of Participants.

-Trainers and Promoters must give certificates to all PoV days they give. It is crucial Trainers explain the certificates and the 100 day program to their participants.

Hopefully as part of full disclosure the Trainers let the participants know these certificates are utterly worthless in the real world.

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-When a participant is getting ready to graduate they need to provide proof of attendance of those 100 days by show of certificates. If participant is missing certificates they ask the facilitator to attest they did indeed participate those days in question.

-There is one local person who verify the 100 days:

UK-Ireland: Avril Woodward
Europe: Susanne Ernst
Japan: VDI- Mami Yoshida
Canada: Susan How
Taiwan (non ASK participant): Daphne Wang
ASK -Taiwan and Hong-Kong: Jenny Soares
Singapore: Yanni Hwang

What constitutes a PoV day:

-A PoV workshop day is 6 hours of ‘working’ hours (lunch and breaks not included). For example: a Saturday or Sunday one-dayer.

-No coaching sessions given by any PoV trainer count toward a PoV day

-No study groups, mini-workshops, forums, etc. count toward PoV day even if led by a trainer

-Exception can be made if a trainer teaches a series or a mini-program with curriculum (for example 12 evenings), there is a possibility that they might count as days. These mini workshops need to be taught by the same Trainer so that they are process-driven within a closed group. Drop in sessions do not count.

-If this is the case, the Trainer writes and describes that program and sends it to the Program Director (Francine Girard at present). Given her approval, it can be counted as PoV days.

-A PoV day from a series/mini-program counts as 3 separate teaching sections. The total sections divided by 3 will be the number of PoV days
that can be credited. (For example 12 evenings equals 4 PoV days.)

-The trainer will hand out a certificate at the end of the program, stating that is was a mini-series, with X-sections in total and the equivalent of X/3 per PoV day.

-Mini-programs counts to a maximum of 10 days.

-Three 2-hour long Webinars by a Master Trainer equals 1 PoV day.

-An evening part of a PoV workshop counts as 0.5 day, e.g. Friday afternoon/evening through to Sunday counts as 2.5 days. But, if that evening is open to anyone who does not participate in the complete workshop, it does not count as 0.5 day.

-All participants must be at the beginning of the workshop to counts as PoV days. Example: Participant may take 3 days out of 5-dayer if they are at the start of the workshop.

All certificates must have the hours as well as the equivalent days. One PoV day is 6 ‘working’ hours no breaks or lunch included. Trainer can find a template on our Comindwork website. Also Trainers must inform their promoters about certificates.

Got all that? There will be a test later.

Comindwork, by the way, is a very expensive secure non-transparent intranet communication system used by corporations and other organisations.

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The Application Process for Trainers Program 2015

Guide for Applicants

Stage 1:
Apply by submitting your application to your Country Application Coordinator (CAC). Email your application letter, picture and biography (see below for details) to your WAC no later than July 1st 2014. Please see last page for WAC contact information.


Application:
i. Write a letter of one page or less including:

-Background – experience, training, skills and interests.

-Why do you feel it is true for you to become a PoV trainer and join this team? Please speak from your heart. Once you have all your pre-requisites, this is by far the most important section of your application form. Once you have your prerequisite, this is by far the most important part of the application form.

There is that odd phrase again, "feel it is true for you." In Lenora's rather pathetic and feeble recent screed chapter on why Oneness University was no longer the greatest thing since sliced bread, she used the term "it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U." What does this mean in New Age Speak? In Lenora's case it apparently means she gave herself permission to be vague and not answer the question. But I am sure the Spezzanos have a stricter standards when they review the applicants. Want to go far in SALPOV? Then do as she says, not as she does.

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ii. On a separate page summarize PoV studies, including when, with whom and where 100 day completion was. List all the PoV books read.

Yes, and be sure to list the ebook Healing The Body Through Mind and Metaphor by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst! Great stuff in there! Available in hardcopy in German! The more who read this the better! Oh. Wait. It has been hidden from public view for some reason. What a shame.

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iii. Please state when and where you taught ‘Steps to Leadership’ with at least 4 participants.

iv. Also, please list the long training attended or plan to attend in 2014.

Photograph and Biography: Submit a digital picture (head shot only, passport photo size, 200 dpi). Give a short biography of your life stages.

Stage 2:
Application will then be sent to all Trainers from your region for feedback. A 30-minute interview in person or by phone will be scheduled with a Master Trainer. The interview will be used to discuss and evaluate current foundation and strengths. You will discuss your application letter, feedback from local Trainers and the interviewer, and get recommendations for your next step.

Stage 3:
If your application is accepted at the local level, your WAC will present your application to the Psychology of Vision Steering Committee (SC). Currently the SC includes Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Jeff Allen, Hiromi and Hideaki Kurihara, Julie Wookey and Francine Girard.

Stage 4:
The Steering Committee will make final selections and you will be advised as soon as possible (no later than September 30th 2014) as to whether or not you are invited into the program.
 
If your application is declined: You will be given SC feedback and able to discuss a course of action on how to improve over the next year.

Stage 5
(if your application is accepted): First of all, you must begin travel plans a.s.a.p. for the Trainers’ Conference (flights, passport, visas, hotel, etc.). The Trainer Conference is always in Hawaii, USA.

Secondly, you must read the Trainer’s Agreement 2015 and confirm to Trainer Program Director (Francine Girard). Payment of Trainer fee is proof of having read, understood and agreed to the Agreement, Sexual & Financial Integrity Conduct, as clearly defined in Trainer Manual 2014. This must be returned by December 1st 2014.

Attached is a copy of the English language 2011 Trainers Manual, which was taken down not long ago. The 2014 version is apparently not available to the public. This document pretty much contradicts all of Lenora's claims that SALPOV is not a steep hierarchy personality cult with the chief incentive of gaining profit and power. Those who are immersed in SALPOV probably can't see it, but the rest of the world certainly can.

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Finally, new Trainers may not teach workshops until their coach gives them permission. Do not plan workshops right away after being accepted as a trainer.

Although Lenora has claimed SALPOV is a level corporation, it isn't. This claim "does not feel true to me." This is made more fascinating by the fact that there are now less than 50 trainers. 

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PoV Trainers’ Input Into Application Process:

All PoV Trainers are requested to participate in the application process for new Trainers. The following is a description of their required involvement.

i. Assessment of New Applications by the Local Team of Trainers: The Worldwide Application Coordinator (WAC) sends the application letters to the local Trainers. Local Trainers then give feedback on the following questions:

-How do you see/feel the capability of the applicant as a Trainer?
-How do you feel about having them in the team?
-What skills of the applicant are most appreciated/strongest?
-What are the applicant’s problems/issues?

And let us not forget, do they have enough dough to supplement the Spezzano's lavish lifestyle? Charles probably has his expensive wine cellar, and Lenora is an expensive whine seller. These two are a real piece of work.

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ii. A summary of applications and interviews is composed by the Master Trainers (T4) following the evaluation: The feedback of the local team of Trainers is shared in an interview with the applicant by the T4. Any comments, doubts or concerns about the applicant from local Trainers are communicated in the interview. The interviewers also communicate what they see as the applicant’s next step of growth in specific areas for the next year. This feedback is communicated regardless of whether the applicant is accepted into the program or not. The applicants mentor and coaches’ feedback will be key to their invitation into the program.

iii. Country Promoter to pass on information to Trainer Program Director: After reviewing all the feedback from the Trainers and interviews, the WAC may choose not to put forward an applicant to the Steering Committee (SC) via the Program Director. The Trainer Program Director will pass this on to the Steering Committee.

iv. Steering Committee decision process: The SC will make the final evaluation of the applicants. Members of the SC will briefly respond with their reasons for refusal or invitation.

v. Contacting applicants: All applicants will be contacted with the final decision by September 30th and feedback and comments on their next step will be given to all applicants either by their WAC or a SC member.

PoV Worldwide Application Contacts – WAC

CANADA & UNITED STATES
Application Coordinator: Susan How

Tel: 604 298 4011
Fax: 604 298 1097
Email: canada@pov-int.com (http://canada@pov-int.com)

TAIWAN
Application Coordinator: Wendy Shieh

Tel: 886-2-3393-3809
Mobile: 886-936-898-920
Email: wendys@mail.usc.edu.tw (http://wendys@mail.usc.edu.tw)
Skype: wendys124

UNITED KINGDOM- IRELAND
Application Coordinator: Sue Allen
VisionWorks Life Skills Ltd (VisionWorks)

Tel: 01249 409001
Fax: 01249 760182
Email: sue@visionworksforlife.com
 (http://sue@visionworksforlife.com)

JAPAN
Application Coordinator: Hiromi Kurihara
Vision Dynamics Institute (VDI)

Tel: 813-5765-1960
Fax: 813-5765-1961
Email: info@povj.jp (http://info@povj.jp)

EUROPE
Application Coordinator: Susanne Ernst
Psychology of Vision D-A-C-H

Tel: 41(0)78 638 2770
Fax :41(0)32 622 8949
Email: susanne.ernst@pov-int.com (http://susanne.ernst@pov-int.com)

Such a waste. Such a waste.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on July 16, 2014, 04:09:55 am
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Every inhabitant of Haida Gwaii should be required to view this YouTube video. Actually, all of British Columbia should watch this video. What Lenora Kay Spezzano did to Babs Stevens is something she would like to perform on all the people of Haida Gwaii. So hey, does Lenora have a deal for you! Submit yourself to "downloading" and be reduced to a near drooling quivering zombie! And as a bonus you get to be the "child" of an entitled wealthy American! Doesn't that sound like an enlightening experience? 


This idea is not good. The client / victim would be left unprotected for critics and attacs, other people with bad disposition can analysizes her behaviour and weakenings and misuse them to harm. They can develop more ideas to force people into etremely stresslevel. The victim knows it will be possible allways turning in her painfull situation and there is no exit.
To show the video for all a client cannot be helped to clarify what happened.

Just if the client wants to present herself as an evidence, it should be allowed. Better those videos will be deleted and clients got connection to educated therapists. And also the client should give the therapist the address of POV for contact. The contact between POV and therapist must be allowed by the client.

Those videaos are not basics to explain how the results of POV can be.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2014, 11:58:59 am
It seems as if part of the SALPOV package is believing that human emotional energy can impact the weather and natural disasters.

Piff discovered this one, Lenora Kay Spezzano on Facebook, Oct. 31, 2010--

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This is Black Beach, as seen from our hotel room in Macau. It was bright and sunny this day, you just can't see it well from this angle on my iPhone. Actually, it was supposed to be storming from the typhoon, but we worked on it in the seminar, and it lost energy and deflected away.

Here is Charles in his Nightlight Newsletter, Prelude to Dec. 2012--

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_DecemberPrelude2012.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_DecemberPrelude2012.htm)

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There was hurricane Sandy ripping up the east cost of the U.S. There are other signs of polarization and splits, such as the rift and opposite vision of democrats and republicans in the U.S. There is war in Syria and trouble with Israel and Palestine once more and the economy has still not recovered.

Lightening StormWeather and earth shifts are the reflection of our collective conscious and unconscious mind. It seems that storms are increasing and there have been medium sized earthquakes off of Japan, Canada and Central America. These small earthquakes let off the pressure, but there is much to shift in consciousness for an easy birth in December and beyond.

As far as I can tell at this moment we have cleared about 90% of the energy of cataclysmic forces that could devastate the earth but in the category of disaster, only about 10% has been transformed. Cataclysm and catastrophe are hard ways to learn lessons of partnership, friendship and community. It is crucial not to dwell on the negative and the fearful, as that is just our egos getting in the way of doing what we can do to make a difference. A hard birth is not Heaven’s Will for us and neither is it our true will. We have a month to make a difference. We can commit to change, pray and ask for miracles and to do spiritual rituals and healing. We are the dreamers of this dream taking place and dreams at the deepest level are wish fulfillment. As A Course in Miracles states: “Happy dreams come true not because they are dreams but only because they are happy. And so they must be loving.”

Charles moves into the realm of prophecy in his April 2013 Nightlight Newsletter--

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_April2013.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_April2013.htm)

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Warning Points:  There may be an incident in the world with another nuclear power plant this month.  This is actually a collective issue, and all collective issues are everyone’s responsibility and can be dealt with and averted by all of us through kindness, love and healing.

There is also danger with the flooding or possibility of tsunamis in the second week of April.  Weather and world mishaps are tied to the collective consciousness of humanity, which is also processing the collective unconscious of humanity.  This includes all the war, murder, rape, famine and plague.  Forgiveness, letting go of attachments, your generosity and the amount you extend yourselves in friendship even to people you have never met makes a difference.

In the January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter [the infamous "dodged bullet" issue] Charles says--

https://www.facebook.com/notes/lightworker-activation/jan-2010-newsletter-chuck-spezzano/261854654609
 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/lightworker-activation/jan-2010-newsletter-chuck-spezzano/261854654609)

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The challenge this month comes around the third week where events could be tragic. It contains sacred fire pain. This is pain that takes you to your knees. It comes from a fracture in our personal and collective unconscious and as a result we may be blindsided by the force occurring. It is like we are on a lake and a great sinkhole opens sucking everything in the lake down. But forwarned is forearmed. You can begin today to transform this possibility through blessing and forgiveness of any dark events. It need not be!! We can change what is possible even what is probable. Every morning and every night, ask for a miracle. Pray unceasingly. We could go through this time period totally unscathed. It could be only the smallest ripple on the lake. Let us have birth the easy way. Your life and those you love depend on it. Your world depends on it. Each easy birth helps positive change occur so there is a smooth transition to greater love and success. 

This was followed up by a sad exchange on the Spezzano's blog, January 18, 2010--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/to-janece.html?q=disaster (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/to-janece.html?q=disaster)

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[ORIGINAL POST FROM JANECE

Hi, Chuck! I was just reminded of your January Newsletter...where you said something tragic could happen the third week of January! I even wrote (in lipstick) on my bedroom mirror "Every morning and every night, ask for a miracle" and I have been!

Chuck, do you think the Haitian earthquake was the tragic event you w...ere feeling??? Or might there be more next week?]

Dear Janece,

You asked if the Haiti earthquake was part of the tragedy that I was picking up on .It was certainly part of it but it was only about 1% of what could have happened. Early on there was enough healing that instead of an event that could have been cataclysmic (about a 1,000%) event for the Earth  we had healed enough  for the event to be downgraded to 100% event. We healed even more but there feels to me as if there could be one more event equal to Haiti  (a 10% event)this month.

I and a number of other people around the Earth are working and praying that everything be peaceful the rest of the month and the last event be dissolved also. We could have the easiest of births instead.

Wishing you love and blessings,
Chuck

Believing that human emotions and energy can impact the weather and earthquakes is one thing, but this reads like an extension of their Healing Metaphors, if you have a disease, and if you have bad weather or a natural disaster, you are obviously at fault and must be guilty of something. But SALPOV can save you! So be fearful and stick close. This is merely another way to keep the flock close.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 17, 2014, 02:57:23 am
Here's a little parlor game for you Canadian SALPOV watchers.

Before we start, let us recall this very brief and not detailed statement by Lenora Kay Spezzano in her recent screed, The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

As we have documented, the Spezzanos attended Oneness University in 2007.

Using the Google search date filter for 1996-2006, search the combined terms "Oneness" and "Psychology of Vision".

You'll notice not much comes up in the results.

Now try the same search using 2007-2014 as the date filter. You'll see the Google hits max out. Including this horrifying example from page 9 of the January 13, 2011 issue of the Skidegate Newsletter--

http://www.skidegate.ca/Newsletters/jan11news.pdf (http://www.skidegate.ca/Newsletters/jan11news.pdf)

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“Manifesting Success in 2011”

Facilitated by Babs Stevens -Psychology of Vision Advanced Trainer
at the Skidegate Community Hall —
Friday, Feb. 4 -Registration 6:30pm to 7pm
Workshop- 7pm — 10pm
Saturday, Feb. 5 - 10am — 6pm
Sunday, Feb. 6 -10am -5pm

First 20 local participants to sign up are sponsored by the Gwaii Trust &
the Ngystle Society
Tuition - $125.00 per person

Join with other participants in Psychology of Vision process work,
receiving Oneness Blessings and creating mind maps or vision boards of
what you would like to manifest in 2011.

Please bring your favorite magazines/catalogues/brochures to cut pictures out of
for your mind maps/vision boards.

Please call the Ngystle Society at 250-559-41 14 to register or for more info!
Sponsored by the Ngystle Society and the Gwaii Trust

Here's a link to how the Ngystle Society and Gwaii Trust got involved--

http://www.gwaiitrust.com/AGM_2010.2011/HH_2010.2011/HH_Nygystle_Application_Dec_1_2010.pdf (http://www.gwaiitrust.com/AGM_2010.2011/HH_2010.2011/HH_Nygystle_Application_Dec_1_2010.pdf)

(Also, see attached)--

Here's another one, from the January 15, 2009 Skidegate Newsletter, page 5--

http://www.skidegate.ca/Newsletters/Jan15.09.pdf (http://www.skidegate.ca/Newsletters/Jan15.09.pdf)

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2009 Can Be a Bountiful And Beautiful Year

We will be doing Chakra Meditations each morning and will be giving Oneness Blessings, Psychology of Vision Work and will each create a ‘Mind
Map‘ for the coming year. Collect in advance magazines or pictures you can use for your Mind Map. This workshop will be facilitated by Babs Stevens on January 30, 31 and February 1, 2009. The schedule is as follows: Registration: Friday: 6-7pm. Workshop: Friday 7 pm—10 pm, Saturday + Sunday 10 am-5 pm. Location: Skidegate Community Hall. For more information and to register please contact Ngystle Society: 559-4114

Here is a bit from SALPOV Facebook just last month, where "Oneness" was ballyhooed--

https://www.facebook.com/events/593764904041892/
 (https://www.facebook.com/events/593764904041892/)

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June 15-24, 2014
Apprenticeships are the key healing program in Psychology of Vision as they are facilitated by Chuck and Lency Spezzano, the pioneers and masters of this model. In an apprenticeship you experience 5 days with Lency’s Oneness work and 5 days with Chuck’s process work. This creates a balance of the masculine and feminine styles of transformational healing.

After 2014 Lency will only be teaching Apprenticeships in Hawaii, come to Canada for the last international Apprenticeship.

TIGH NA MARA RESORT and SPA | www.tigh-na-mara.com
The 11 night package from June 14–June 25 is approx. $1197 CAD each based on 3 people sharing a two bedroom cottage. Many other options available.

APPRENTICESHIP TUITION: $3000 USD
100 DAY GRADUATES: $1550 USD
A deposit of $350 USD is required to reserve your seat. It is non-refundable but transferable. Final payment is due by May 16, 2014. Monthly payment plans are available. Call for First Nations Tuition rate.

I think Lenora has some 'splainin' to do. SALPOV has tried to distance itself from OU but still uses OU philosophy and practices. What is the deal with that?

Oh. I forgot. That last quoted part with the high tuition fees pretty much answers my question.

Money down a rathole, my friends. Money down a rathole.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 18, 2014, 12:27:24 am
Submitted for your approval--

Attached is the application Charles Lee Spezzano would have to fill out in order to be a licensed psychologist in Hawaii. Somehow I think he'd quickly find himself in a sticky wicket in the course of filling out this form--

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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 19, 2014, 06:03:47 pm
Every time I think I we can just rest our case, some new wacky data surfaces that needs to be stored here in the NAFPS Information Clearinghouse.

One of the more interesting facets of the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) for-profit corporation is the pretense that they are mental health professionals who are on a par, according to young Christopher Spezzano earlier in this forum, with people holding professional degrees from Harvard.

Of course one look at the academic and licensed credentials, and lack thereof, of everyone involved in the SALPOV corporation will quickly put that fable to rest.

This thin and superficial veneer of pretending to be professionals in the field of mental health and therapy has served SALPOV well in Europe. A quick visual glance at their marketed image does not immediately scream out "Cult!" These are, for the most part, well scrubbed and well fed polite-looking, well-mannered, culturally non-threatening white folks who are not adorned with exotic garb. The Hawaiian shirt is the closest thing to an actual uniform. The cultish aspects of SALPOV are not apparent until you start to ask a few simple questions about the corporation.

It is rather insidious when you begin to study it. SALPOV is the wolf wearing the sheep's clothing of white suburbia. Just the ticket for German and UK customers with money to throw away.

Of course the big mystery to us Westerners is the attraction to SALPOV for Asians. Lenora attempted to explain this a few years ago in her "self annihilation process is leading people to enlightenment" when she said--

http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity
 (http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity)

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My husband and I are currently working with a group of 90 people in Guangzhou China. Most of them are beginners to my work, so it will be interesting to see how far I can get with them. They are keen to get enlightened, but their level of maturity is low.

Nice. No Ugly Americanism there. No siree, Bob!

So in attempt to research this question I ran across what looks like an avant-garde art project, apparently in Hong Kong, called Pinkwork Radio Art.

http://pinkwork.com/radio/ (http://pinkwork.com/radio/)

Using Google translate, here is PRA's mission statement--

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PINKWORK™ Radio Art is not an ordinary radio as understood by Human, but a media for Extraterrestrial life ~ pinkcat@pinkwork™ city to do art or research, well, mainly on cool human species. It likes to abduct some humans that it thinks are creative, interesting or have some new thinkings, record their sound and conversations and do analysis afterwards ...

What radio station here is not human cognition is alien life forms ~ PINKWORK pink cat one artistic medium. It is particularly feel like it captured some of the fun, creative or new thinking of the human species, included their voices, dialogue, after study ...

And, as one would expect, SALPOV is mentioned quite a bit, right alongside Breatharians, Oneness University, Seth, and Edgar Cayce. Apparently Charles Lee Spezzano is considered one of the "world renowned celebrity psychics."

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[New age channeling: ~ 8] dream Nida x KiKi Wong ~ ~ ten days refraining hungry to experience 10-day Breatharianism

July 17, 2014 in all Categories, [PINKWORK™ Radio Art], [new age channeling:] - Radio Art by Art pinkwork™ Radio

Extraterrestrial life ~ pinkcat@pinkwork™ city is so curious about humans and this physical world. Its latest interests are human religions and new age thinking, cause it believes through them it could get some clue of human evolution. This time its "research target" is human Dreamonita again.

Dreamonita is a celebrity dream interpreter / spiritual healer / columnist in HK. Pinkcat likes to call her a collector of "new age thinkings", cause she's studied and practised many different new age theories, Oneness University, Bijan Anjomi, Seth Materials, Psychology of Vision, Taoism's Qigong, to name a few. Last year she joined a 10-day Breatharianism Camp organized by Qigong Master ~ Mr. Gao from China. Breatharianism or Inedia is an ancient belief that human could survive without eating any food but purely on energy from nature, such as Sunlight, fresh air ... In ancient Taoism, this practice is aiming to achieve immortality or living longer.

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[New age channeling: ~ 2] dream Nida x Sean Coxall x Lio Beardsley / Jewish mysticism Kabbalah Puzzle / PINKWORK™

September 16, 2013 in all Categories , [PINKWORK ™ Radio Art] , [new age channeling:] - Radio Art by Art pinkwork™ Radio

...

Dreamonita: Well, as you said, to learn Kabbalah can bring us happiness, a better life, more realistic, and it will bring us health?

Sean: Absolutely! First, Kabbalah is that some tools to let you know more about yourself from within. Any thing happen to you, including disease, are starting from a seed. You just think back, to find the source, you can put the seeds in addition to walking. Often see some cancer patients, after studying the Kabbalah, the disease naturally disappear.

Dreamonita: It sounds to me studied before, Oneness University from India, the United Kingdom, Professor Chuck Spezzano other spiritual theories of Psychology of Vision or The Power of NOW and other very similar?

...
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[New age channeling: ~ 1] dream Nida x Chris @ bad monument lip / sleep prophet Edgar Cayce ... / PINKWORK™

May 15, 2013

In this episode, dreamonita and HK veteran indie musician Chris are chatting about different new age beliefs and some world renowned celebrity psychics, such as Edgar Cayce (nicknamed Sleeping Prophet), Chuck Spezzano (who successfully predicted Japan 311 earthquake) ... etc. Dreamonita also shares some of her "channeling" experience during tarot card readings.

Nida and from this dream "bad lip monument", "Wildchild" and "Yellow!" Will talk about some of the band's Ho Siu Kee NEW AGE simple concept, introduced some of the famous "master" level characters, including "sleep Prophet "title of Edgar Cayce, and successfully predicted the Japanese earthquake Chuck Spezzano, etc. 311. Meanwhile dream Nida also shared some Channeling help people experience themselves when reading tarot cards. Channeling spirits is not a psychic or upper body, is the energy of the universe is turned on or knowledge base. Humanity itself probably born with this ability, but it is kind of urban life in this area began to feel degraded.

Charles Lee Spezzano the Psychic is generally downplayed by SALPOV in the West as it does not help in forming the image of being a professional in the field of mental health. However, it does appear Charles did try his hand at this line of work, but apparently found it unprofitable.


http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

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In 1980 Chuck travelled to Vancouver, Canada for his first lecture. He began doing psychic development workshops up the west coast but by 1982 seeing the need he switched to only conducting healing workshops.

In the YouTube Change Your Mind, Change Your Heart, Change the World, Charles tells us, "In the 70s I studied with psychics and shamans." Really? Who did he study with? Who were these "shamans"? This is the same video where he informs us he studied hypnosis and worked as a "psychologist."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszvvL-ksZs&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A)

Actually, Charles did not predict the Japanese earthquake. It is true he predicted an unspecified quake in his March 2011 Newsletter--

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March is a month of challenges but if we meet the challenges then it is a month where we are uplifted and transformed. The key lesson in March is about our willingness to change. This is occurring both personally and collectively. In some cases, it has become change or die. This challenge could cause tumult, confusion and tragedy. There might be an earthquake or other catastrophes as a result of unconscious and collective conflict.

Predicting natural disasters is something he does on a frequent basis (usually without result), and given the fact that earthquakes are a daily occurrence on the Pacific Rim, sooner or later he was bound to get a hit.

You can take boy out of the psychic carnival act, but you can't take the psychic carnival act out of the boy. The following are from Spezzano's blog--

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July 11, 2014
HEALING INTROJECTION is the card for today. This form of interjection is where we swallow others' pain in an effort to help them. This sets up fusion and co-dependency. We burn off what we suck up with our psychic ability but usually we suck up so much more then we can burn off generating huge emotional burdens we don't even realize we are carrying. Today is a day to let go of all we have sucked up from everyone as well as all the introjection mechanisms. Give God back His job. Get Him out of the soup line. Let God do His work and you be His Child. Have the Best Day!
Posted 1 week ago by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/07/healing-introjection.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/07/healing-introjection.html)

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April 20, 2013
PSYCHIC AWARENESS is the card for today. It signals a gift that develops at a whole new level of power. It is helpful to you and to others, creating flow and seeing the way through. Everyone has this ability and different people have different gifts. Some come as a result of a breakthrough and at other times they simply develop. Whatever it is for you, enjoy the gift of it. Turn it over to Heaven for its best and truest use. Have a good one!
Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Psychic Awareness

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/04/psychic-awareness.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/04/psychic-awareness.html)

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December 11, 2012
KNACK is the card for the day. It speaks of a talent that has psychic energy tied to it to make it stronger. Your KNACKS are helpful to you and others and come under the category of leadership gifts, creating flow and connection. Have a fun day!


http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/12/knack.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/12/knack.html)

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June 3, 2010
HEALING BAD JU-JU is the card for today. Ju-ju refers to magic or anything beyond the natural order. This includes dark magic, curses, psychic attack and possessions of any sort. Usually this is relegated to the unconscious mind and can come in through any form of toxic attack or abuse. Today connect with the Divine Presence and with any of your Friends in High Places whom you are or ask to be connected with.

Michael the Archangel is particularly good with this type of spring cleaning. This can end oppression you did not even know you were under. Many times those carrying strong light or a great purpose are attacked ,even by parents caught for a time in the dark supernatural in an attempt to wound or keep you small. When we are trapped by this energy,it is often a form of collusion on our part afraid of our purpose and destiny. This type of healing removes unconscious fears. Have a great cleaning day !
Posted 3rd June 2010 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Dark Magic Dark Supernatural

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/06/healing-bad-ju-ju.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/06/healing-bad-ju-ju.html)

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September 6, 2010
HEALING AN ASTRAL ATTACK AND WHAT HIDES IT is the card for the day.

The astral is the dark unconscious that is ancient fragments of the ego,also known as demons,devils,dark gods,etc. This is the dark supernatural that is intent on delaying and obstructing us as much as possible to hold back the relatedness and evolution so that they keep their base of control for as long as they can. At some level (the unconscious) it is all our mind and we are integrating these fragments which seem to have a mind of their own. Their attacks can come in the form of setbacks,attacks from others or even pure malice coming at us energetically. We can always call in God, the Tao, The Holy Spirit, Jesus,our angel,Quan Yin or the many other older brothers and sisters who have realized Oneness. Another way is to realize that we are spirit and as such are safe ,healed and whole.

Besides holding us back, the dark forces have the hidden hope for redemption and that whomever they attack will have the wherewithal or connection with Friends in High Places to send them back to the light.
This is a big opportunity to help yourself and the whole earth today. There is a karmic connection established when a victimizer attacks a victim;this ends when the victim finally redeems the victimizer. We have the opportunity to bring the light today and dispel the darkness.

Invoke the Light today. Call in your Friends in High Places and send these ego fragments back to the Light from which we all came and to which we shall all return.Help yourself and help the whole earth today by your awareness and willingness.
Posted 6th September 2010 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Astral Card Dark Supernatural

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-astral-attack-and-what-hides-it.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-astral-attack-and-what-hides-it.html)

If you Google search the terms "psychic" with "Chuck Spezzano" two very enlightening facts surface. First, the large number of SALPOV former students now work in their spinoff business as self-described psychics. We see the same thing with others trained in SALPOV who advertise their hypnosis skills. Second, many of these psychics erroneously refer to Charles Lee Spezzano as a "psychologist." It is just as Lenora Kay Spezzano says, "Lies can be put on just one blog, and they get shared and re-shared by people looking for material for their own blogs, which then gets shared again and again and again, running up the number of 'hits' of viewers. They all feed off of each other for new content to stay competitive." So true.

He's not a psychic. He's not a psychologist. He's not a professional. He's a "coach." And a VERY expensive one.





Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 20, 2014, 10:52:50 pm
The Internet is full of cult checklists. But I found myself drawn to the following post by Fr. Dwight Longenecker for various reasons.

Although the SALPOV website, until recently, claimed their two greatest inspirations were Oneness University and A Course in Miracles, I maintain the true greatest inspiration is the Catholic Church that influenced young Charles Lee Spezzano, who had made an early decision to serve the Church as a celibate servant but abandoned this goal in order to follow very worldly pursuits. I believe this has resulted in an extreme split mind which is reflected in the insecure and fragile SALPOV dogma. Particularly the obsession with guilt.

This very insecurity manifests itself in cultish behavior and policy as a means of enforcing conformity of thought, not to mention securing a continuous revenue flow.

The SALPOV Trainers Manual outlines an ersatz mini-Catholic Church with Charles in the role of Pope. That's my take on it at least.

Given the Catholic foundation of SALPOV, I figured Longenecker's piece was the most appropriate and accurate filter to use as a method of deciding whether or not SALPOV is a cult--

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2013/04/cults-and-common-sense.html (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2013/04/cults-and-common-sense.html)
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Cults and Common Sense
April 16, 2013 By Fr. Dwight Longenecker

One of the creepiest things about religion is the tendency for those involved to drift into cult-like behaviors. How can you tell if a religious group is operating like a cult? It’s difficult because the people in a religious group can behave like a cult without them becoming a full blown, identifiable religious cult.

What groups am I thinking of? It could be a small local group or a large international group. It could be a parish or a school. It could be a study group or an ecclesial community. The difficulty is that cult like behavior is often very similar to authentic and Spirit filled Christian communities. A cult will often look like a good, authentic and dynamic Christian community. In fact, the cult will often out do the authentic Christian community in certain respects. Sometimes the cult will feel more authentic, more dynamic, more spiritual and more “filled with the Spirit.”

How can you tell if a parish, a school, a community or a religious group are becoming cult like? Again, it is very difficult because some groups that have cult-like behaviors remain at a low level of these behaviors.

So what are the danger signs? First of all, if a religious community or a religious leader seem too good to be true–guess what? They’re usually too good to be true. That’s because group cult behavior conspires to cover up and hide away anything that tarnishes the glossy image of that “wonderful community” that all the members want so much to believe in. This is the first sign of a cult: everything is too wonderful and everyone is ready to tell you how wonderful it all is. The cult will invariably have an amazingly good public relations operation. They will present a good and glossy front with 100% participation of all involved. This being the case, if your priest is a man who’s faults are obvious. Maybe you should be grateful. He’s real. He’s not trying to con you.

The second thing to watch out for is the leadership. The leadership of a cult will invariably be selective and exclusive. There will be a public face of the leadership, and that person will unfailingly present the nice, glossy and polished face of the organization. The public face will be squeaky clean and wonderful. If it is a personality based cult there may be no other leadership. However, if there is a board of directors or trustees, they will remain in the background. You may not know who they are. Their meetings will not be public. They may even have a vow of secrecy about their meetings. They will call this something nice like “a confidentiality agreement.” This means they cannot discuss what goes on behind those closed doors. There may not be a formal leadership group at all. Instead the leader may simply have an inside circle of friends and confidantes who nobody really knows because they never have any meetings as such. The decisions are all taken in private. The leadership will be tightly controlled and it will be by invitation only. If you encounter non-transparent leadership in this way. Don’t be surprised and be suspicious.

A third trait of a cult is that complete loyalty is demanded of the followers. Dissent and criticism is not permitted. Those who dissent will be marginalized, excluded from decision making and demonized. If the leaders cannot get rid of the dissenters they will be isolated and given a name. They will be “the troublemakers” or “the grumblers”. The dissenters from within will be considered the most dangerous ones and you will find that there are divisions–those who are loyal followers and those who are suspected of being “disloyal” or “rebellious”. The disloyal and rebellious ones will be deemed “unspiritual” or “difficult”. In extreme cases the dissenters will become scapegoats and all the negativities of the group will be projected on to them.

A fourth characteristic of a group that has become a cult or is behaving in a cult like manner is that there will be a persecution complex. A group of outside forces will be identified who are “the enemy”. A little fortress will be built in which all those on the inside are the “faithful ones” while all those on the outside will increasingly be demonized and feared. There will be no real effort to build bridges or get to know those on the outside. There will be no real effort to treat the outsiders as real people. Instead they are the enemy to be kept at arms’ length and against whom the faithful will usually project their fears and suspicions. At worst the enemy will have all the sins and fears and dark negativities projected on them.

The problem is that when a group is becoming cult like it does so innocently. Nobody sets out to establish a cult. Instead, unconsciously certain individuals start to behave in this manner and they support one another. The leadership starts to create an unrealistically wonderful religious atmosphere and those who want and need that sort of religious group will support it and feed the flames. The faithful will set the leader up on a pedestal and declare him to be wonderful and the leader (who needs and likes the adulation) will encourage their hero worship. Those who object or suspect what is happening will be automatically excluded or marginalized by those who wish to perpetuate the super wonderful world they are setting up for themselves.

It all stinks to high heaven, and I know how it works because in over fifty years of working in a range of religious groups I have seen these behaviors develop within parishes, within home prayer and praise groups, within schools, in colleges and in independent churches.

What’s the antidote? One of the antidotes is actually the Catholic parish system. If we all went to our local parish and put up with the priest we didn’t happen to like and the people who were just there because, like us, they lived there–we would be more realistic and we wouldn’t fall into personality cult problems.

Another antidote is common sense. If something or someone seems to be too good to be true. They are. Common sense pops pomposity’s balloon and brings things down to earth. A third antidote is open-ness to criticism and dissent. A real servant leader and a truly service based group will value all members and be strong enough to listen to dissenting voices. They will treat criticism as positive feedback and be open not only to dissent but to outsiders. A fourth antidote is confession. Cult members and cult leaders never admit their mistakes and will never be able to make a true, honest and open confession or apology. If your leader or community members cannot say “sorry” you’ve got problems.

Finally, real religion is just that. It’s real. It’s humble. Remember the word “humility” comes from the word “humus” which means “earth”. Real religion is down to earth. It’s humble and oh yes, “Humus” is also the root for “humor”. Real religion always knows how to have a laugh. If a group or a person can’t laugh at themselves–be suspicious. If they take themselves or their movement or their spirituality with utmost seriousness–beware.

Although the Catholic Church has a lot of issues of its own to deal with, I must say as a person who is unaffiliated with any religion I am impressed with Longenecker's thoughtful post. On all points of his checklist, SALPOV fails miserably.

SALPOV is indeed a creepy commercial personality cult under the broader Religion of Worshipping Money and I highly doubt they will deploy any of Longenecker's suggested antidotes as a way to pull out of the nosedive they are now experiencing as they head for a major crash. Remember, we are talking about entitled wealthy Americans here. They have lost their way and are blinded by their own story. SALPOV seems to be on some kind of deathwish spiral with their options for rescue blocked by their own incredible denial of reality.

I really feel bad for those souls who bought all that Spezzano nonsense. Life is too precious to waste on existing only to feed the Spezzano Cult bank account. I've read the manuals and have seen how deep they have their hooks into your lives.

To walk between the Earth and the Sky as a free and independent person without fear is something to be. SALPOV is never going to give that to you. They are all about mental and emotional slavery. Just keep dropping the coin of the realm into their collection plate. As long as you subscribe to SALPOV dogma, you will never be a free human being. 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on July 22, 2014, 06:13:47 pm
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Every inhabitant of Haida Gwaii should be required to view this YouTube video. Actually, all of British Columbia should watch this video. What Lenora Kay Spezzano did to Babs Stevens is something she would like to perform on all the people of Haida Gwaii. So hey, does Lenora have a deal for you! Submit yourself to "downloading" and be reduced to a near drooling quivering zombie! And as a bonus you get to be the "child" of an entitled wealthy American! Doesn't that sound like an enlightening experience? 


This idea is not good. The client / victim would be left unprotected for critics and attacs, other people with bad disposition can analysizes her behaviour and weakenings and misuse them to harm. They can develop more ideas to force people into etremely stresslevel. The victim knows it will be possible allways turning in her painfull situation and there is no exit.
To show the video for all a client cannot be helped to clarify what happened.

Just if the client wants to present herself as an evidence, it should be allowed. Better those videos will be deleted and clients got connection to educated therapists. And also the client should give the therapist the address of POV for contact. The contact between POV and therapist must be allowed by the client.

Those videaos are not basics to explain how the results of POV can be.
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Guess what the whole of Haida Gwaii and the world has access to view this you tube thanks to the promotional spirit of POV for making this induced psychosis public. How pathetic to abuse a devotee this way,exposing them as gullible fools for all first nations and non fn to see just to prove that their chosen method of induction has manipulated their victims into succumbing to their devices.

To see the extent of abuse that this you tube of Babs Stevens and Lency Spezzano demonstrates , the disregard of self dignity and how that extends out to the families and community of this victim is disturbing and has long range damage to many! This is imposed by the “coach,spiritual leader,whatever you want to call this person in charge of POV and their promotional tactics”.

How lucky for them to secure a “person in power” within the Haida nation. They must feel such a big achievement to harness such an entrapment as Babs Stevens, band manager , CEO of Skidegate community for over 40 years! Wow what a powerful feather for Lency to put into her hat of achievements! Pretty hard for any victim of Lency's or Chuck's to live down such self effacing shame once (if possible) they sober up and realize how outrageously horrible it is for them to be exposed to the world and their own community like this.

This you tube is so belittling and saddens the first nation heart which still has critical thinking to know instantly what a disgrace Lency has made of Babs. So sad and obviously ridiculous ,that if this is the “cutting edge “ method that Chuck and Lency apply and are so proud of , then this method may reveal more of a cutting edge  for the long term damage this is doing to their successful entrapped recruits like Babs.

Wow,imagine paying a “life coach” to expose you in a you tube like this publicly! It is so destructive to ones life to be exposed as delusional and dominated by a grimacing freakshow . If I was Babs' employer I would be pursing measures to have her seen by an accredited psychologist for a psychiatric assessment. If this is the end result of of becoming trained for “whatever” by Chuck and Lency Spezzano , I would not be trusting Babs in such an important position as managing the lives and resources of the Skidegate community.

How many other First Nations are Chuck and Lency going to puppeteer into their plan to manipulate and control? What's the big attraction and target? Do you seriously believe Canadians are going to let some fat cats from the states extract our First Nations Heritage, displace our indigenous people into a divisive plan designed by Chuck? This you tube of Babs and Lency is not acceptable by any Canadian standards as a cure for anything, especially for the plight of what the original planners of this country imposed on all our good people. Makes you wonder if Harper and Chuck worked out a deal to subdue FN and make way for the more taking!

Careful who you let into your life, because it can not only ruin your own life but ruin the ones around you that you love!

I sure hope that Babs gets help to get out of this mess and can redeem her life back to “normal” which is what most human lives are living out in reality. I wonder if she could return to her original self after allowing C & L spend the last 20 years draining her memory and replacing it with their messaging and programming of self annihilation?  I am sure it would involve long term corrective therapy to undo all that indoctrination securely locked in by embedded commands and emotional conditioning.

A good case for inhuman treatment and cultural violation to FN people ! Not to mention the rest of the internationally targeted communities POV has corrupted with their cutting edge methods.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 02, 2014, 01:57:50 am
SALPOV Odds and Ends, part one

Here are some fun scraps I have found in the course of researching SALPOV, not presented in a real organised manner. Think of this as a grab bag of factoids. One of my favourite novels is Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut. Like Billy Pilgrim, the hero of the story, I'll skip around as I become unstuck in time but in the end a tale will be told--

From Ghostbusters--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV6XTMpWU8Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV6XTMpWU8Y)

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Janine Melnitz: Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?

Winston Zeddemore: Ah, if there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.

We defaming, bullying, slandering, libelous, criminal, astral attacker, shady character, cyberstalking, unenlightened, hater critics (remember, SALPOV claims it does not have an "us vs. them" mentality, but we have been called all these things!) are frequently taken to task by defenders of the cult for never having attended a SALPOV workshop. But in fact, some among us have, but most of them are too afraid to come forward out of the fear embedded into them by the SALPOV goons as they are afraid of suffering dire consequences for speaking up. But we know their stories and speak for them.

Also, using the term "Haters" is getting sort of tired. It is a favourite word used by American Right-Wing nutjobs. It used to be said that once the word "Nazi" or any reference to Hitler was used in an online forum, that was a signal the discussion was basically over and the writer was shutting down their ability to learn (Godwin's Law). I think the term "Haters" is the new "Nazi."

Personally, I find the attendance issue to be absurd. In the past I worked in a very low level capacity with lobotomy victims. I saw the results of a procedure I never witnessed. Lobotomy victims and SALPOV survivors have a lot in common. Subjects of inhuman treatment that need to be healed by REAL professionals and REAL love, not the kind you have to pay big bucks to obtain in an artificial group setting with a high price-tagged made-up "family" with Charles and Lenora playing the role of Father and Mother. And I don't need to attend a lobotomy or SALPOV session in order to judge the results.

Besides, Lenora has provided us with plenty of documentary evidence about what goes on, and it does not look especially inviting. In fact, it is horrifying!--

http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos
 (http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

The whole SALPOV culture creeps me out and saddens my heart more than being around lobotomy victims.

Plus, I'm cheap. I don't want to throw away my hard earned wage slave money on a couple of overfed and affluent American grifters. They are not worth it, even for entertainment value. But if I do ever go, I will enact the procedure suggested by Large Group Awareness Training Truth--

http://lgattruth.wordpress.com/ (http://lgattruth.wordpress.com/)
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10 fun ways to social hack an awareness training from the inside out
Posted on January 31, 2013 by lgattruth

The Program is a novel by author Gregg Hurwitz. Although it’s fiction, The Program provides some great insight into abusive groups and destructive movements, as well as ways to social hack a Large Group Awareness Training.

In this case, social hack is used to refer to a method to literally disrupt and ideally completely destabilize the Large Group Awareness Training, from the inside out.

10 key ways to social hack a Large Group Awareness Training:

1) Act authoritatively. Destructive groups and abusive movements often model their staff and train their leadership after the one influential leader and founder of the group. They will not expect you yourself to also act in this manner. They often act authoritarian and totalitarian, as this is how these staff members are taught, to emulate and act like their leader and founder.

2) Bring a mental health professional as part of your social hacking group. Ideally this would be someone with a PhD in psychology or an M.D. with a specialty in psychiatry. This person would educate and brief the members of the social hacking team about tactics and methods of the group, and the dangers of getting in too deep into its thought patterns.

3) Bring an ex-member of the group in question. This ex-member should be someone intimately aware of the ways the group functions, and yet out for enough time to have fully gone through a period of cognitive dissonance and awakened back to a pattern to appropriately interact with society again.

4) Bring law enforcement or someone familiar with the law. This person will help brief the rest of the members of the social hacking team on their rights should staff from the destructive group or abusive movement falsely make claims about their actions during the seminar. This person would also be quite useful to conduct research into the possible criminal activities of the group and its founder and leader. This person should instruct all members of the social hacking team on ways to have fun disrupting and destabilizing the Large Group Awareness Training seminar, without doing anything illegal.

5) Don’t follow group mentality. Refuse to stand when everyone else stands. Don’t clap when everyone else claps. This will help you maintain your sense of self and independence throughout the attempts by the abusive group or destructive movement at influence and manipulation. If you are asked to explain yourself by a staff member of the abusive group, sample language from the book includes: “From what I’ve seen, I’m not sure if I like The Program yet. If I decide that I don’t like what’s going on here, I’m leaving. Thank you for having me here today.” (Obviously replace “The Program” with the name of whatever destructive group or abusive movement’s seminar you are attending.)

6) Politely interrupt the seminar with inquisitive questions. Make sure to be polite about this. Again, maintain a positive and happy attitude when doing this. Most likely other members of the seminar in the room full of 200 or so people will echo some of your concerns.

7) Assertively affirm your positive outlook on life. Wording suggested in the book by the fictional psychologist, character Dr. Glen Bederman is: “My Program is: I participate in activities that give me self-esteem, and I have the courage to decline to participate in those activities that do not.” This frames your reason for attending in a positive way that simultaneously retains your own sense of self, independence, assertiveness, and self worth. It also signals to potential shills, dupes, and marks in the audience that they can similarly adopt your positive yet independent attitude and modus operandi while being in the seminar.

8) Maintain a positive and happy attitude. You are there to have a fun time. Act like it. Potential shills and suckers and marks will respond positively to you if you question the methods and tactics of the abusive group or destructive movement, while at the same time showing you are a happy and fulfilled person.

9) Bring a digital thermometer. Destructive groups and abusive movements will sometimes wildly alter the ambient temperature in the room where the seminar is conducted, in order to put attendees off balance. If you notice this pattern, politely but loudly question the staff on this, in front of the rest of the seminar participants so they can all hear your concerns.

10) Ask the staff loudly and politely if they are licensed to practice hypnosis. In the book, the fictional psychologist Dr. Glen Bederman asks: “Are you licensed to administer hypnosis in the state of California?” When the abusive group’s leader “TD” responds: “We’re not practicing hypnosis here. We’re simply meditating.”, Dr. Bederman loudly points out in earshot of the entire seminar: “Guided meditation is a form of hypnosis. Everyone in this room should know that.”

Next in this grab bag is a YouTube by Bernie Koftinoff--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNPrzl6EZ44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNPrzl6EZ44)

Bernie, who is apparently from BC, shares her journey with Oneness University in a very direct, articulate and sincere manner. What I find most intriguing here is how much of what she is saying is also mirrored in SALPOV philosophy. So why is Lenora Kay Spezzano distancing herself from Oneness University? Why the SALPOV online information purge of all connection with OU, formerly one of their "two greatest inspirations"? Young Christopher Spezzano told us a few months ago--

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My parents also have NO affiliation whatsoever with Oneness University. They and some of their students attended some of their courses a number of years ago, but were shocked and disgusted to learn about some of their practices. My mom actually spearheaded a campaign to learn and expose the truth about Oneness University. My parents do not support their practices, community, or methods. They have wanted nothing to do with that organization once they had an opportunity to learn more about them. They adamantly steer people away from that organization, their practices, and beliefs. They would NOT want their students to be affiliated with that organization in any capacity. You and your so-called "researchers" need to get your facts straight. If you attempt to destroy someone, as you are attempting to do both my parents and all the tens of thousands of people around the world they have helped, you have to have the mental willpower to do balanced research. Without a balanced, analytical approach to what you are doing, you are manipulating all of the people who are reading your posts. To be honest, it seems you have been just as brainwashed by this misinformation as anyone a part of a real cult. It's worrisome, unhealthy, and downright illegal to pursue these untrue attacks. We are now in the process of cleaning up this misinformation. We will likely have to take legal action against the defamers to clear up the misinformation and slander they are spreading and issue a public apology. If you have any further questions or attacks, I would be happy to educate you further about your ignorance. Hopefully I can then continue to clear up the damage that you have been doing to thousands of people around the world, not just my parents ...
Christopher Haokalani Spezzano

I have also made copies of our conversations and screenshots of your public defamation posts on Facebook to hold you legally accountable for any further unfounded damage you choose to do.

Whew. And Lenora told us in her recent screed--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?


There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

We have provided more than enough research and documentation here to prove both Lenora and young Christopher are full of hot air and completely wrong. Neither one of them gave us specifics or dates or examples. Exactly what is the truth about Oneness University that shocked and disgusted Lenora? From what I can see and have demonstrated on this forum, Oneness University remains alive and well within the SALPOV dogma to this day. What exactly are the Spezzanos running away from and why are they betraying their strong connection to Oneness University? There is a major credibility gap taking place here. If there is any apology to made, it should be from the Spezzanos to their clients.

Next, "Spirit Bear"

Here's the long Google translate URL--

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.ladeva.de/Elke-Kirchner_Spirit-Bear&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522chuck%2Bspezzano%2522%2Boneness%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D740%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:2007,cd_max:2008 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.ladeva.de/Elke-Kirchner_Spirit-Bear&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522chuck%2Bspezzano%2522%2Boneness%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D740%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:2007,cd_max:2008)

"Spirit Bear" has his own entry here in NAFPS--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0;nowap (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0;nowap)

And note the Spezzano connections in both URLs.

Next, Selling the Sacred

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/other-material/bouys/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/other-material/bouys/)

SALPOV has, among the many other items for sale, some "bouys." These are used in Buddhist temples, sometimes in conjunction with "fortune sticks," and are known as Divination Blocks, Moon Blocks, or Jiaobei Blocks. They are used as a fortune telling device. Two observations. Nothing is so sacred in SALPOV that it can't have a price tag. Second, these are sold as fortune telling toys, just like the ersatz tarot card sets for sale by SALPOV.

Those SALPOV card sets are the fool's gold bling of the New Age set. And utterly worthless except to the gullible. It never fails to amaze me how people read what they want to read in Spezzano's random 3-card Las Vegas slot machine. It is depressing, actually, to see how easily led people can be, so willing to give up responsibility over their lives and surrender their critical thinking in such a spectacular way. They must be desperate and very wounded people, and the Spezzanos should be ashamed of how they are cashing on the suffering of these folks.

So, tell me again why the Spezzanos should be taken seriously as "professionals" in the field of psychology?

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The 2014 German language Psychology of Vision Handbook is now online--

http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf (http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf)

I include this mostly for my friends in the RCMP who can read German. Have at it, Mounties! We love you! Section K is the one to read.

Here's the link to Ingeborg's excellent take on an earlier edition of this chapter--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

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Stefan Peter Götz interviews Charles Lee Spezzano in June 2014--

http://stefan-goetz.com/podcast/leading-with-the-heart-could-make-a-difference-to-your-business/ (http://stefan-goetz.com/podcast/leading-with-the-heart-could-make-a-difference-to-your-business/)

Note that Charles never mentions accepting responsibility for errors. Also, according to his logic, Lenora's reactive response to our criticism has only served to increase the influence and power of us lowlife critics. Thank you, Lenora!

SALPOV is suffering from a split mind.

Charles has never been in charge of dozens of employees. I have. And I can say he is full of ... nonsense, and has no real world idea of what he is talking about. SALPOV is a pretty poor example of how a business should be run. What happened to that "synergy" and "interdependence" SALPOV had with Oneness U., or the "Healing Keys"? Don't ever become a business partner with the Spezzanos, they'll ruthlessly throw you under the bus if you become a liability and threaten their profit margin. And they are not very good at cover ups and whitewashing. That's the only area where they really are "transparent."

Complacency can cost you.

Next up

The Spezzanos were able to ride the 2012 idiocy to their advantage. Dig this riff from Charles' Nightlight Newsletter from Nov. 2012--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/nightlight-newsletter-november-2012_30.html
 (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/nightlight-newsletter-november-2012_30.html)

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The world is slowly spiritualizing, and as a result it is being lifted.  Idols, trivia and other forms of delay are being exchanged for what has true value.  This saves a great deal of heartbreak, disillusionment and wasted time.

The question remains:  “Will it be enough to welcome an easy birth in the last eleven days of December?”

November is the turning point.  We are all called to help as we can.  It is time to turn emergency into emergence.  This is what we came for.  This is the time.  This is the month we can tip the scales.  What was revealed to me in these last months on the road in lectures and workshops is that we could all lose many people close to us at the end of December…Japan could be lost.  China could be leveled.  People in Asia could lose more than half the people they know.  In Europe it is between 15 to 25 of the one hundred closest people to them.  But none of this needs to happen.  Are any of you willing to give up anyone you know and love when you could instead help to change that in significant ways?  There is much to be done and the odds are good that we can step up rather than be knocked down.

There are important things that we all can heal, such as letting go of any grievances because they pull us and the world down.  In the same way, we are called to forgive ourselves because guilt breeds self-attack.  Self-attack promotes guilt and judgment and that guilt is projects it onto others.

There's more, but why bother? Did Charles ever follow up and say, "Oops, perhaps I made a mistake by pretending to be a psychic and whipping all of you into a state of TERROR"? In my research such an apology or confession has never happened in the history of SALPOV. The main thing is the Spezzanos were able to keep the herd in control through fear. As the American Boomer Spezzanos probably like to sing when thinking about managing their cult followers--

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Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep them dogies movin'
Rawhide!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope, throw, and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHr4ubuD64 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHr4ubuD64)

Sort of gives a new meaning to the term "Chuck Wagon" don't it?

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An interesting take on the Oneness Malarkey during the time Spezzanos first fell in love with the idea--

http://newcentrist.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/the-oneness-movement/ (http://newcentrist.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/the-oneness-movement/)

"How people fall for this nonsense is actually rather sad."

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A Lenora Oneness and Guilt workshop

https://web.archive.org/web/20080311161647/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/Full_Event.asp?id=2104 (https://web.archive.org/web/20080311161647/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/Full_Event.asp?id=2104)

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Dialogues on the Nature of Oneness and the Deeksha Blessing, An evening lecture with Lency Spezzano


24 July 2008, United Kingdom, Brighton

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From Bethsaida, 2007

https://web.archive.org/web/20070419212255/http://www.bethsaida2007.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=37 (https://web.archive.org/web/20070419212255/http://www.bethsaida2007.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=37)

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Chuck and Lency Spezzano    
inspirational teachers and authors


Chuck graduated in 1970 from Duquesne University with a BA (Honours) in Philosophy and Psychology, followed in 1971 with a Masters in Sociology. In 1977 he obtained his PhD in Counselling Psychology form the United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he practised as a psychologist at the Naval Rehabilitation Center in California, conducting therapy groups and individual sessions, and eventually he developed a workshop system for the unit to augment group and individual therapy. From 1980 to 1991 he practiced marriage, family and child counselling.

His PhD, unaccredited by the APA, was in "professional psychology" not "counselling psychology." I'm still trying to figure out how Charles could be called a "psychologist" at the Rehab Center without a degree. From 1980-1982 he was apparently attempting to make a living as a psychic, according to his online autobiography.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

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"In 1980 Chuck travelled to Vancouver, Canada for his first lecture. He began doing psychic development workshops up the west coast but by 1982 seeing the need he switched to only conducting healing workshops."

But back to the biography. We learn Lenora is an empath!

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Lency is pioneering a mystical path through her joining method that emphasises the feminine, emotional and direct approach to love. As an empath, she joins with participants using love as a healing tool that releases emotional pain from the body, and connects them with the bliss of Divine Love.

She's an "empath" connected to "Divine Love" and you aren't. But if you pay enough, through the nose, she'll share it with you. Doesn't something about that seem a little shifty to you? I mean, that's her product. That's what she is selling. Apparently her economic, social, national and cultural entitlement extends to spiritual entitlement as well. So you people better stand up and salute! Because she's a better person than the rest of us unenlightened low-maturity slobs immobilized by our own guilt!

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SALPOV fits perfectly into the following brief essay on cult-think by Mark Dunlop, especially in the use of guilt. Also, note that ol' split mind stuff, the "us vs. them" mentality, the elitism, and the addictive nature of attending workshops--

http://surrealist.org/betrayalofthespirit/disorders.html
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Do Cults Produce Mental Disorders?
by Mark Dunlop

My basic thesis is that with cults, it is the belief system itself which is the primary active agent in cult mind control, and the actual controlling of mind is done by believers themselves, as they train and discipline their own minds in accordance with the tenets of their new faith or belief system. The article tries to deconstruct the nature of 'cult-type' belief systems, and to analyze how they differ from 'mainstream' belief systems.
- Mark Dunlop

This is just a summary - to read the entire manuscript, go to: The Culture of Cults [dead link]

Here is a brief statement by Mark on whether cult involvement can create or encourage mental disorders, such as borderline or bi-polar disorders. - Editors

Cults promote a belief system which is utopian/idealistic, and also dualistic and bi-polar in nature. Dualistic in that they see the world in terms of two opposite poles, such as good versus evil, the saved and the fallen, the enlightened and the ignorant, etc.

Cult belief systems are also bi-polar in psychological terms, rather like Bi-polar disorder or manic-depression. Cults promote a vision of an ideal 'new self', which members believe they can attain by following the cult teachings. Cult belief systems encourage the aspirant to identify with this imagined ideal new self, and then, from the perspective of this new self, to see their old self as comparatively inferior and flawed. It is ego-utopia or hubris for the new self, and ego-dystonia or shame for the old self.

Believers can experience a sort of religious mania of inspiration, when they are in the hubris phase, identifying with this idealised imaginary new self, with its perfect perception and understanding, etc. They can become addicted to this hubris high, and become dependent on the group and its leadership to validate their spiritual progress and to maintain this inspiration.

There is often a sort of collective arrogance or hubris among established cult members. They see themselves as part of an elite, and look down rather sniffily upon the mores and values of established mainstream institutions.

If members fall out of favour, even temporarily, with the group leadership, or if they begin to doubt if they can achieve the group's ideals, they may experience a sort of religious depression or guilt, over their seeming inability to free themselves from their 'old self', with all its bad habits and weaknesses and lack of faith. This depression reinforces their desire to return to the inspired state, and can reinforce their addiction to the utopian vision of the cult belief system, so there can be a feedback system going on too.

At an extreme, believers fear they will become ill or fall into hell if they leave the group.

All this goes on within a cult members mind. A cult does not control its members by using external coercion. It is the belief system itself which is the primary active agent in cult mind control. The actual controlling of mind is done by the person themselves, as they attempt to discipline their mind and reform their personality, in accordance with the tenets of their new belief system. Effectively, a cult, via its belief system, uses a person's own energy and aspirations against them.

Of course, ordinary society can be a bit bi-polar as well, with its pressure to be successful, with perfect hair, lifestyle, etc.

It sounds like your girlfriend might have some pre-existing issues with self-esteem (don't we all ;) A cult can play on both her anxieties and her aspirations at the same time. They (or their belief system) can potentially make her feel both more guilty about her 'old self' with its normal human weaknesses, and simultaneously inspire her with an imaginary idealised vision of a wonderful new self and a new life. Very bi-polar.

In general, when you talk to a cult member, it can be helpful to understand which self, either the old self with its old set of beliefs or the new self with its new set of cult beliefs, is more dominant at any particular time.

If you criticise a cult member, this may just encourage their tendency to see themselves (their old self) as flawed, and may push them further into the cult. If you criticise their church or group, the cult-member will go into cult-self mode and will see your criticisms as tending to confirm the cult's warnings about the outside world and its negative effects. A better approach may be to acknowledge and encourage a cult member's old self, without criticising or threatening the new cult self. If a cult member feels valued in themselves, and their old self does not feel devalued, then this weakens the cult's attraction for them.

Stay tuned, there's more--
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 02, 2014, 02:44:54 am
SALPOV Odds and Ends, part two

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The Deeksha Danger website--

http://deekshadanger.weebly.com/index.html
 (http://deekshadanger.weebly.com/index.html)

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An article on one of the Spezzanos "two greatest inspirations"--

Severe Problems with "Bhagavan Kalki's" Deeksha Oneness Movement


http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html (http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/deeksha_oneness.html)

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Psychology of Vision is a subsidiary of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. (hence the SALPOV acronym). Spezzano and Associates Ltd., a for-profit corporation, has two officers, Charles Lee Spezzano, President and Lenora Kay Spezzano, Vice-President. Now this is a level corporation-- how?

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Not convinced SALPOV is on a downward spiral? Go to Google Trends and type in "Psychology of Vision" or even "Chuck Spezzano"--


http://www.google.com/trends/ (http://www.google.com/trends/)

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JC's Journal gives us a rare peek into what happens day by day inside a SALPOV workshop from the point of view of an attendee--

http://www.hybrex.com/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogID=1&Locale=en-US&EntryID=571 (http://www.hybrex.com/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogID=1&Locale=en-US&EntryID=571)

http://www.hybrex.com/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogID=1&Locale=en-US&EntryID=576 (http://www.hybrex.com/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogID=1&Locale=en-US&EntryID=576)

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop -1
5/30/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

My family (Jenus, Jason, Annie and I) will jointly attend the PoV Workshop hosted by Chuck and Lency for four days from today. If it isn’t because of Jason’s problem, I think my family will never attend this kind of workshop together. It might be arranged by God!

It was my first time to see the founders of PoV – couple of Chuck & Lency. As they walked into the classroom slowly, I had goose bumps like getting an electric shock. I was not sure if it was just like fans screaming when seeing their idol or it was like the neutralization of discharge when my little magnetic field met a powerful one. But anyhow, it was a wondrous experience for me!

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

The personality cult aspect of SALPOV makes me wonder what is going to happen when Lenora and Charles finally retire or join the Choir Eternal. Given the fact this is a corporate body named Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision, what will replace the idols in this personality-driven for-profit enterprise after the Pope and his Vice-President Pope go away? These two are now in their 60s. I don't see a lot of young people clamoring to join the herd. Rather, I see a cult heading for a big crash. Neither of the Spezzano children or any other obvious heirs appear to be groomed to replace the two objects of worship in this cult.

I would love to read a study about SALPOV written by a professional sociologist or a REAL professional psychologist.  It seems to me we have the material for a novel here as well, sort a modern version of Elmer Gantry. I just might write it myself in the roman à clef format! No one would believe it!

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop -2
5/31/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Most of Lency’s course is the awareness of energy. When finding our energy, combine it with our broken energy by means of PoV. In the past, the union practice was taken by two people in group gazing at each other. This time Lency used a new way from yoga and Indian Oneness University to do “union practice”.

“Sitting cross-legged” is a joy for me. But for the awareness of energy, I seem to be groping. I’m still learning how to analyze and think without being too rational, and to feel energy intuitively!

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

There's that Oneness University being integrated into SALPOV teachings. Remember Oneness U? The place Lenora says has noooooo connection with SALPOV? None at all. Never happened.

Riiiight.

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop -3
6/1/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Mostly Chuck’s courses are based on the psychological theories and his actual experiences. By his explanation, a conscious behavior could be peeled off through the layers to let the subconscious reason behind be dissected gradually. We admired and were surprised by many of his opinions. Regarding this sort of analysis and perception, my comprehension still went beyond my intuitive feeling.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

Boy, that's really profound. Sure worth 3000 dollars, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7eKXKmi24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7eKXKmi24)

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 4
6/2/2008

Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

The following are what I’ve learnt in these few days:

1. Happiness is a choice. It’s but a spiritual choice in ubiquity. As long as you’re willing to give what you have, with perfect ease, you’ll have a feeling of happiness that comes from “awakening”.

2. When you feel you have some distinguishing characteristics, your greatness will be offset. Great men are humble since they expand their characteristics to all human beings.

3. “Worry” is an attack that the virus of “fear” is inflicted on others. Whenever you’re worried, ask yourself “Am I attacking others with worry?”

4. The independent think “to get” equals “suffering” so they don’t ask for help.

5. Miracles come from love and confidence.

6. After the Indian Spiritual Leader Guruji finished a retreat for years, the first word he said was “Don’t worry, be happy!”

7. All problems are, when getting down to bedrock, all a matter of “relation”.

8. All the external relations in dispute are caused by personally internal dispute and the dispute between self and God.

9. Dejection originates in that you have dejection idols in mind. The most three common ones are:
(1) Victim idol
(2) Independent idol
(3) Sacrifice idol

You admire these dejection idols so you become a victim, a solitary and a scapegoat unconsciously.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

"When you feel you have some distinguishing characteristics, your greatness will be offset." So if I am reading that right, diminish that within which makes you different. Get in alignment with the program. No room for flawed folks who don't fit the spiritual Eugenic system we have set up. Amazing.

Great men, as we have seen over and over again in history, had enormous human failings which they managed to parlay to their advantage through using independent will and critical thinking.

From the Third Man: "You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

Not an entirely historically accurate quote, but you get the idea.

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 5
6/3/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. People are used to control others with anger and blame others for not acting as their play. In fact, they put their “guiltiness” on others. After blaming, others do as their play and everything a hundred percent goes to fulfill their play. Thus, angering is only an excuse. All are intended by themselves.

2. “Deathly still” is a defensive emotion so no any of commitments should be made.

3. Perfectionism is a compensating behavior that one thinks he is imperfect. Perfectionists intend to take over all things without regarding if they should or shouldn’t. Also, they think highly of perfection more than things.

4. When you know what your problem is, the only way to settle is to accept it, admit that it’s your problem, and face it bravely.

5. Being in pain is because you pretend the suffering isn’t on you. The treatment is to accept the fact of suffering and experience it.

6. When some misery happens in your life, you may decide to cut off the relation with someone, especially cutting off the connection between you and your parents in childhood. This feeling of isolation is crucial to all problems in your future life.

7. State of enlightenment or awakening:

(1) Open-minded: Able to accept all good and bad things.

(2) The past suffering was completely burn to nothing. Anytime only the present moment is in your mind.

(3) Your heart doesn’t stay on anything nor burden anything. If you a hundred percent accept everything and give all you have, you’ll get the intellectual thinking easily.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

Point # 1 is exactly what Charles Lee Spezzano is imposing on his followers. SALPOV is a corporation built on the foundation of the Catholic guilt of Charles. He's using a profitable enterprise to work out his own story. His own clients are paying for the therapy of their idol. But it does not appear to be working. Such a waste. SALPOV is such a waste.

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 6
6/4/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. Self-consciousness à self-attack à self-torment
Self-consciousness comes from that one keeps looking the past and the present self. Then he judges himself, gets shy, and is insulted, which makes him start attacking himself. So, to ensure his performance meet his expectation, he continuously oversees and forces himself to do more, which become self-torment. In the above self-expectation, there’s a false self-recognition: “if I do this way, others will like me.” Instead of being aware of the part being loved, he constantly teaches himself how to be loved.

2. Each character is a tool formed to help self to fulfill the specific goal.

3. Remedy for self-consciousness:

(1) Humor: Humor can run creative thinking.

(2) Gratitude: Write down the names we want to say thank-you and keep pay love forward.

(3) Giving: The more we give, the less suffering we feel. To help others is to help ourselves and to let us walk in the stream of love.

4. Sincerely make friends with our staff for life to build a connection. Being humor, we’ll find staff’s faithfulness.

5. Self-attack is the biggest trap in our life. God gives us only beautiful things. However, “ego” let us feel things always go bad and think in complicacy so that we easily get stuck in self-consciousness.

6. God will never stop loving us but only we’ll stop this love.

7. God is working for us. Unless we tell about our need, God won’t work for us.

8. Whatever is persisted in correctness, there’s must be something wrong inside.

9. Complainers never stop complaining. They live in a vicious circle of bitterness all their life. However, intention is equal to result. If the result comes out not good, only all we can do is to change our intention. Then we, rather than anyone else, should be a hundred percent responsible for our action. If we don’t know how to do, sincerely pray to God for grace, which is just the fastest and most effective solution.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

We complainers are such a pain in the ass, aren't we? We are the rock in the shoe. The flat tire you deny is happening. We tend to bring up some truths that prove to be somewhat inconvenient to people like the Spezzanos who victimize the vulnerable as they make a pretty handsome profit. The cult followers don't like us either and use their reactive selves to call us "haters." Forgive them Lord, they know not what they do.

My God values Justice, and Humor, and Freedom. "Justice" is not a word you hear much from the Spezzanos. Not for rape victims, not for residential school survivors, not for victims of physical or emotional abuse, not for survivors of the SALPOV brainwashing abuse. "Justice" is used and twisted by the Spezzanos only for purely selfish reasons as a way to silence and censor honest critics with opinions they find detrimental to their profit margin. Rather ironic for Americans who come from the nation that values free speech. That might work in their own tiny SALPOV empire on the people they have mentally and emotionally worked over and manipulated, but the rest of the world sees it differently.
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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 7
6/5/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. Feeling being humiliated is a mentality of extremely intending to protect another “self”. Only if we remove the “self” from our list of protection, we won’t have that feeling of being humiliated.

2. Spirit is neutral like a radio that stations differ by frequency. In the world there are only two thinking stations: “ego” station and “holy spirit” station. Both of them don’t belong to us though sometimes we think they are ours. Since our spirit is neutral, we can choose the thinking station we want freely and quickly.

3. Awareness:

(1) We have only “oneness” in mind (no dissociative self). “Ego” won’t struggle with our “holy spirit” any more.

(2) Won’t reflect the good and bad in the past on the present.

(3) The oneness of our spirit can let us unite with others, nature and God.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

Oneness! Oh the wonder.
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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 8
6/6/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. Energy is inherently awakening, not resting. Only when our heart awakens, our energy can be found.

2. No problems will happen unless we hold a grudge against someone. When grudge comes out, we first attack ourselves and then blame others for causing problems.

3. Being angry is we don’t want to be responsible for our behaviors. If we aren’t responsible for ourselves, how can we pray to God for help? The truth comes only when we completely take the responsibility.

4. Forgiving others is also to set us free. When forgiving others, the pain in our body, mind and spirit will get less.

5. When we feel painful, it means someone (visible and invisible spirit) needs our help.

6. Being happy is because we have a connection with people, while being sad is because we choose retreat and escape.

7. If we hardly meet with success, it’s because the idols we admire, including cruelty, gain and loss, suffering, shyness and being humiliated, stop us from fulfilling our mission.

8. Attacking others is also to attack each one who loves us.

9. When encountering problems, it’s easier to find excuses than solutions. Are we afraid of success or failure? Don’t underestimate our abilities nor abandon the calls for help around us. It’s hard to move forward without God’s grace.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

"When encountering problems, it’s easier to find excuses than solutions." And here is a good example of that--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 9
6/7/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. Try to think about how much we love ourselves. Do we love ourselves wholeheartedly? Or does our love have been shared?

2. Don’t let us be flawed. The more we give, the more we think highly of ourselves.

3. The independent always keep an altar in their mind, on which “old loves” are enshrined for them to reminisce the past.

4. He who is afraid to accept is afraid of giving. He doesn’t want to owe anything to anyone nor do any favors to anyone.

5. “Equanimity”, being indifferent to the outside world, also one of the four sublime states in Buddhism, is a perfect, unshakable balance of mind, and rooted in insight.

6. When achieving success, we think it’s all done by ourselves and we deserve it. Our “ego” will get stronger and make us isolated.

7. The oneness of mind is the source of equanimity, which allow us to connect with others and nature easily. Only oneness exists while the rest are fancy.

8. Any fears are fancy. There must be a present in which we fear. The more we fear, the bigger the present is. Nevertheless, “ego” always stops us from winning the present.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

"Don't let us be flawed." Intriguing. And frightening.

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - 10
6/8/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

Here’s what I’ve learnt today:

1. New awakening:

(1) Don’t think hourly.
(2) Think slowly.
(3) Don’t think repeatedly by compulsion.
(4) In the past the whole creation is individual but now it’s in oneness.
(5) I feel my words and deeds are getting funny.
(6) In the past I tried hard to defend many things but now there’s nothing I should defend.

2. When certain misery happened, we made a decision to cut off any connection with others. And we created a new “world of mine” and became the God of “world of mine”. We did all we can to satisfy the faith of being “God”. It’s the secession point to “Period of Independence”.

3. When being oneness, we can feel other people’s bitterness, feel sorrowful as they do, and be able to get rid of sorrow in a very short time without being obsessed at all.

4. The adolescent’s perverseness is indispensable to be independent. In the process, they have to experience failure and frustration by their own and learn to be “independent”. It must take them some times to learn. From the “Dead Zone” of “Independence” to “Interdependence”, they need to develop a penetrating ability to feel “how they feel” in an active and passive way to spend a happy “Interdependence”.

5. The practice of “Joining”:

(1) Both parties stand face to face in equality and look at the other party’s eyes mutually (eyes are windows to the soul.)

(2) Let the third element (love) naturally get into our emotion and then we comfortably feel this feeling.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

1. New Awakening:

(1) Don't think.

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Chuck’s 10 Days Workshop - Conclusion
6/9/2008


Good morning! Taoyuan, Taiwan.

In the past ten days, we seemed to have joined “a modern Buddhist rite”. Actually, I invited, with my spiritual energy, the spirits of my family in this life and of the deceased ancestors again and again to listen to Chuck and Lency expounding scriptures and doctrines. The scriptures explain the sorrow and happiness in human life and teach how to get rid of them with the three mental states (dependence, independence, interdependence) in the triangle model of PoV. The doctrines combine “love and forgiveness” in Christianity and “oneness of universe and human self” in Buddhism.

Chuck’s course focused on “Focal Person”. He used PoV’s Triangle Model to analyze different mental problems. By “going through the process”, a connection with the focal person’s spirit could relieve the mental problems. In the process of cure, the other members connected their spirits with the focal person’s. After that, they went through their processes to cure themselves.

Lency’s course focused on the recovery of high-level spirits. Mostly, she led us to awaken, embrace, burn and completely let off the energy of spirits in order to reach the joy of oneness.

In the workshop, we had one-hour “Puremind Yoga” every morning, which was a nice practice. We could recondition the energy of our body, mind and spirit through an activity. It was wonderful!

Listening, awaking, experiencing, going through and sharing were the main soul of the whole workshop.

Chuck held a psychological consultation with my family for an hour, which was the most unforgettable to me in this workshop. I did appreciate Chuck for his blessing.

Ms. Judy Lai, consultant of Spiritual Ocean International Group holding this workshop, was very affectionate with Jason and encouraged him to go through the 10-day workshop. In the beginning, Jason felt scared, angry and dared not to get into the classroom. After going through the complete process, he sang and gave on a performance with his team members in the farewell party. In addition to appreciating Ms. Lai and the Spiritual Ocean’s staff for their great help, I also wanted to thank God. This 10-day workshop was a course in miracles.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

The triangle-- two words: Bob Trask.

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PoV’s Triangle Model
6/12/2008


Good morning! Taipei, Taiwan.

Today I attended the fourth lesson of PoV: Triangle Model in Psychology of Vision.

After we were born, we’re first in “Dependent Stage”, in which we go through “Needs” to “Heartbreak” due to unsatisfactory loss. Then we’re getting stronger and go alone with “judgment” and “compensation” to “Stage of Guilt”.

As we get over our independent skills, we start our “Independent Stage”, in which we “expect” in perfectionism to ask people around to cooperate to reach our needs, and finally we move to “Stage of Control” with power struggle. If we win, we scorn the losers; if we lose, we’re afraid to see the winners again. It’s all but “Shadows” in our mind. No matter how we spend “Stage of Control”, we move to the stable “Dead Zone” next. To maintain the hard-earned achievement, we set lots of “rules and roles” to shield. Perhaps, we may want to make up for the incomplete part of our achievement such as marriage, so we have an “Electra/Oedipus Complex”. “Competition” becomes an inevitable means to maintain achievement but it depletes much of our mental resource.

In Dependence, our nature of masculine let us dare not let go or ask for help, so we’re unable to move to “Interdependent Stage” all along. In “Interdependent Stage” we need to balance “feminine” in “Dependence” and “masculine” in “Independence”, but “Interdependent Stage” actually searches “unconscious” shadows and our inherently positive nature. This discovery not only confuses me but makes me burn with curiosity over what it really is, since when going through “Interdependent Stage”, we will become a master of our life. It’s really exciting.

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving!

Got all that? Have you seen the SALPOV Triangle? I have attached an image of it--

The thing reads like stereo instructions. Keeping things simple is apparently not in the SALPOV philosophy. By making their organisation and philosophy so Byzantine and complicated, the poor client has no chance of ever mastering the skills and know-how to be fully "enlightened," and as they strive to reach this goal the Spezzanos reap the financial rewards through their incredibly obscene fees.

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Three Phases in Interdependent Stage
6/13/2008


Good morning! Taipei, Taiwan.

In PoV’s Triangle Model, there are three phases in Interdependent Stage. My current understanding is as follows:

Leadership: Ability to connect with others and help others. Intuition, inspiration and partnership can help us to accomplish more. The better teamwork is, the bigger success and union will be reached.

Vision: Ability to connect with self. Devote ourselves completely and let the high-level spirit lead us to achievement.

Mastery: Ability to connect with the universe and be aware of our spirit’s existence. By choice, we listen to our inner guide. Then we listen to God’s voice to let everything happens through us.

In “Interdependent Stage”, a lot of stories in unconscious mind need to be cured and gone through. I’ll savor them gradually!

May God bless us! Let’s create a world where people love each other, enjoy life and keep improving

I would submit that Independence is actually a very good thing. And in the paradox of life, the more independent you are, the more you can contribute to an interdependent society and world at large. That's what being a real person is all about. I would also propose that Interdependence, as practiced in SALPOV, is merely a way to have the clients dependent on the corporation for their own sense of self-worth, requiring vast sums of money to be transferred to the Spezzano bank account. In SALPOV, Interdependence equals slavery. SALPOV really regresses the client to dependence-- on SALPOV. What an ironic twist of fate!

Also, SALPOV engages in very Western linear thinking here. The state of spiritualism is presented in definite stages which supposedly takes the form of increasing enlightened awareness as one advances, where the cult follower continues to climb higher and higher up the ladder of success. Which, of course, costs them more in SALPOV "fees" and "licenses" as they are promoted within the corporation. What a scam! According to the Trainer's Manual, the higher you climb the higher the fee for your annual SALPOV "license." And we are talking thousands of dollars. Why? Why do they rip off their most loyal followers who stick with the cult and advance in rank (in this supposed level organisation) the most? The word "pliability" comes to mind.

Back to the SALPOV linear thinking. In nature, seasons and life work in cycles and circle patterns, not in upward trajectories or sharp edged triangles.

As SALPOV is now experiencing a severe decline, perhaps they need to study circular thinking, as in spirals, as in downward. 

But wait, there's more in this series!
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 02, 2014, 04:58:52 am
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And speaking of bank accounts, in her Ripoff Report response, Lenora told the world, "So far, no one is getting rich off this work."

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)

I have attached an image of the Spezzano's home in Hawaii. Not exactly a shack, more like a huge-on-steroids conspicuous consumption McMansion. A Marxist would say this is so typical of American materialism and I would be inclined to agree. They hold seminars on their property, but as is suggested in the second attached image, the Asian indoctrinees appear to be required to use outside portable toilets perhaps for fear of tracking in dirt on the mansion carpet. Looks like the process of elimination is not a level activity at Hawaii HQ. Or it could be a tax dodge that the clients have to suffer for. The McMansion photo was provided by a source that also revealed the sporty and expensive automobile in the garage. Thanks.

The Spezzanos have a structure on their property called "The Barn" where, according to accounts shared with me, clients are crowded maybe beyond room capacity in the loft. Perhaps the local fire marshal needs to have a look see. Anyway, in order to use their residential property as a brainwashing center the Spezzanos had some hired hands represent them (Charles and Lenora were absent) for a zoning variance--

http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm (http://www1.honolulu.gov/refs/nco/nb29/03/29augmin.htm)
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KAHALUU NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD

MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13, 2003

KEY PROJECT

MEMBERS ABSENT
– John Reppun, George Okuda, Charles Tanouye, Daniel Bender, John Piper,

GUESTS – Steve Holmes (Mayor’s Representative), Frank Shivers (MARIMED), S. Nicholl, Bruce Nicholl, Larry Reifurth (State Deputy Director of Commerce and Consumer Affairs/Governor’s Representative), Tim Nounan (D.L. Adams Association), Andy Keith, Jim Kinner, Cecilia Piper, Lee Allison, Captain Doug Silva (Honolulu Fire Department, Kahalu’u Station), Kim Ribellia (Councilmember Donovan Dela Cruz Office), Barry Castle, Linda Wong (Kahalu’u Fishpond), Keala Naluai, John Hunter, Ryan Jandoc, Shannon Wood (Koolau News), Sgt. Joe Lindsay, Major Chris Hughes (U.S. Marine Corps), DorothyRose Babineau, Peggy Chang (Spezzano & Associates), Geoffrey Paterson, Carole Mulford, Jay Toguchi, Lila and George Marantz, Josephine Patacsil, Lt. John Cheong, Lois Folgerstrom, Nola Frank (Neighborhood Commission Office staff).

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


BOARD ACTION:

1. Conditional Use Permit, Dr. Spezzano, Waihee Place - Luersen moved, seconded by Kaluhiwa that Kahaluu Neighborhood Board No. 29 support the Conditional Use Permit (CUP) given the statements that have been made tonight about the restrictions that have been placed on it, and would include no more than ten times a year, no more than fifty people, no sleeping on site other than the resident house, maximum of fifteen cars on site at one time, the structure itself not be expanded beyond the staircase and the exterior lanai. The motion carried 8-0-0.

...

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP), WAIHEE PLACE –Peggy Chang and Consultant Geoffery Paterson representing Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano presented the following:

1) Spezzano and Associates is applying for a Conditional Use Permit Minor, to permit a meeting facility on their property located at 47-416 Waihee Place, Kaneohe, Hawaii 96744, which is the permanent home of Dr. Chuck and Lency Spezzano.

2) The proposal seeks to modify the existing barn to provide a meeting facility for no more than 50 people. The improvements will consist of renovating the first floor and establishing a meeting room on the existing second floor. Improvements will include office space, reception, limited kitchen facilities, new ADA bathroom, and exterior staircase and attached lanai area.

3) The existing barn is currently used as the headquarters for their worldwide networking in the field of Inner Healing.

4) The minimum impact imposed on the neighborhood – a) construction equipment would be stored on the premises and no buildings will be moved or increased in height. b) Vehicular traffic from Waihee Place will remain unchanged. c) All parking will continue to be provided on-site. d) Attendees at seminars would arrive after Kahalu’u Elementary School is in session and depart after the end of the school day. e) All existing trees would remain on the property and the existing fence and landscaping encircling the property would continue to provide privacy and a buffer to the community. f) Noise levels are projected to be extremely low.

Discussion followed. Luersen moved seconded by Kaluhiwa that Kahalu’u Neighborhood Board No. 29 support the Conditional Use Permit (CUP) given the statements that have been made tonight about the restrictions that would be placed on it and that would include no more than ten times a year, no more that fifty people, no sleeping on site other than the resident’s house, maximum of fifteen cars on site at any one time, the structure itself not be expanded beyond the staircase and the exterior lanai. The motion carried 8-0-0.

With Lenora only holding workshops in Hawaii after this year is over, the ten times a year and other limitations might prove to be problematic for the SALPOV profit margin. Hopefully for the neighbors' sake they'll keep the volume down on all that "Bliss Music."

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A priceless bit of data from FaceBook--

https://de-de.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/posts/10150544266552265
 (https://de-de.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/posts/10150544266552265)

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Chuck Spezzano
15. Dezember 2011 ·
HEALING THE GUILT CONSPIRACY AND MENTAL MASTURBATION
HEALING THE GUILT CONSPIRACY AND MENTAL MASTURBATION are the cards for today. Today reflects a healing that frees us from guilt that we haven't been willing to let go of so it circles around and around in our heads. We use guilt so as...
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    Jack Miller: Oh Divine Master, you help us all way beyond your words. Thank you again and again! Love, Jack xo
    16. Dezember 2011 um 11:14

"Oh Divine Master" ... But, remember, it is not a cult. That's what Lenora says, and she's always right!

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As I mentioned before, "Justice" is not in the SALPOV glossary. In his YouTube "Domestic Violence," Charles is really in over his head and manages to make this all about himself--

https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/posts/168618159845411?comment_id=2003045&offset=0&total_comments=7
 (https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/posts/168618159845411?comment_id=2003045&offset=0&total_comments=7)

I love this FaceBook reality check comment on his blather--

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Jacqueline Ebdon Griffith: "You are innocent and your partner is innocent" Oh please!!!! The violent partner is far from innocent...... !!!!! Try saying that too a father who's burying his dead daughter due to being killed by the 'innocent abuser!!! When a woman is getting her head smashed in, there is really no time to be reflecting and anylising the issues... Real advice is...CAll the POLICE, contact a REFUGE and get out NOW...Then go and do some work on yourself.....

It is always great to see people in the world of reality respond to SALPOV cult dogma.

Charles didn't lower himself to respond personally. He does not like conflict or accountability. Instead he typically left that task to an apologist toady, in this case it was poor Julian Ticehurst--

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December 8, 2010 at 2:11am · 2
Chuck Spezzano [ Great comments - and passed to Chuck (if he has any time at all coz he's in middle of seminar).

@Jacqueline yes - I know Chuck has worked on as extreme cases as you cite - and with great success and healing. "Get Out Now" - absolutely for many - that's Chuck's "Don't let yourself be abused" and it's a priority.

I am unaware of any case where Spezzano summoned law enforcement to step in when rape or domestic violence was concerned. Perhaps he has, but the aspect of calling the forces of law enforcement for justice to be done is not something that seems to be encouraged by SALPOV. No. Not when they can divert you and make a profit instead. That's the impression I get from their rhetoric and has been documented on this forum. Check out this presentation by Charles--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561)

But speaking of family dynamics, Steve Tipaldi did accuse of Spezzano of lying about his case shortly before he killed himself. This was the same episode where Charles was fined in 2004 for pretending to be a "psychologist." Lenora just brushed this off in her screed, ignoring the accusation by Tipaldi that the Spezzanos outright lied on another topic. Of course, Mr. Tipaldi is no longer around to defend himself or elaborate.


http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html (http://www.kimberry.com/tipaldi/steve1.html)

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SALPOV was once in the business of selling alternative medicines--

http://www.locatrade.com/uk/Pewsey/Medicines-and-Therapies/Psychology-of-Vision-Products-Ltd. (http://www.locatrade.com/uk/Pewsey/Medicines-and-Therapies/Psychology-of-Vision-Products-Ltd.)

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Psychology of Vision Products Ltd.
Rushall MillDevizes Road,
Pewsey
Wiltshire
http://www.locatrade.com/business/GB-526132.htm
SN9 6ET
01980-63519
    
Medicines and Therapies in 'Pewsey'

Pewsey Medicines and Therapies Psychology of Vision Products Ltd.. Our business specializes in the following services - Medicines and Therapies, relief back pain, homeopathic treatment, fibromyalgia treatment, herbal healing, aromatherapy, acupuncture, complementary and alternative medicine, herbs medicines, cancer therapies, depression therapies.

Psychology of Vision Products Ltd. is located in Pewsey and our contact details are at the top of this page.

Here's the background information for Psychology of Vision Products Ltd.--


http://www.companieslist.co.uk/03406961-psychology-of-vision-products-limited (http://www.companieslist.co.uk/03406961-psychology-of-vision-products-limited)

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Company type: Private Limited Company
Company number: 03406961
Company status: Dissolved
country of origin: United Kingdom
incorporation date: 1997.07.22
dissolution date: 2004.01.06
last member list: 2002.07.22
has UK establishment: No
has appointments: Yes
in liquidation: No
Nature of Business:

    2215 - Other publishing

    2211 - Publishing of books

Previous names:

    1998-09-18 - VISION PRODUCTS LIMITED

Company PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION PRODUCTS LIMITED was a Private Limited Company, registration number 03406961, established in United Kingdom on the 22. July 1997. The company was dissolved. The company was in business for 17 years . Previous names of this company were: VISION PRODUCTS LIMITED. The company used to be located at FRANCE FARM RUSHALL, UPAVON, PEWSEY, WILTSHIRE, SN9 6DR. Business of the company PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION PRODUCTS LIMITED by SIC and NACE code were "2215 - Other publishing", "2211 - Publishing of books". There are 31 company documents available. The most recent document is "FINAL GAZETTE: DISSOLVED VIA VOLUNTARY STRIKE-OFF" from the 2004.01.06. The latest accounts are filed up to 2002.03.31. The latest annual return was filed up to 2002.07.22. The total number of directors was so far 4. The total number of secretaries was 2.

Interesting. I see nothing in the "Nature of Business" about selling medicinal quackery.

But there is more data, including two people now occupying seats in the SALPOV Star Chamber, er, Steering Committee--
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Company directors and board members:

JULIE PATRICIA WOOKEY (dissolve)
Secretary, 1998.08.24 - 2004.01.06
FRANCE FARM RUSHALL UPAVON , PEWSEY
SN9 6DR, WILTSHIRE

JEFFREY DAVID ALLEN (dissolve)
Director, COMPANY DIRECTOR, 1997.07.22 - 2004.01.06
32 ALMA ROAD , ROMSEY
SO51 8ED, HAMPSHIRE

JULIE PATRICIA WOOKEY (dissolve)
Director, COMPANY DIRECTOR, 1997.07.22 - 2004.01.06
FRANCE FARM RUSHALL UPAVON , PEWSEY
SN9 6DR, WILTSHIRE

BRITANNIA COMPANY FORMATIONS LIMITED (dissolve)
Nominee Secretary, 1997.07.22 - 1997.07.22
THE BRITANNIA SUITE INTERNATIONAL HOUSE 82-86 DEANSGATE , MANCHESTER
M3 2ER

FAY STOCKTON (dissolve)
Secretary, COMPANY DIRECTOR, 1997.07.22 - 1998.08.24
1A HEATHCOTE STREET BLOOMSBURY , LONDON
WC1N 2AL

CREATIVE LEADERSHIP LIMITED (dissolve)
Director, PROMOTER, 1997.07.22 - 1998.08.24
1A HEATHCOTE STREET , LONDON
WC1N 2AL

DEANSGATE COMPANY FORMATIONS LIMITED (dissolve)
Nominee Director, 1997.07.22 - 1997.07.22
THE BRITANNIA SUITE INTERNATIONAL HOUSE 82-86 DEANSGATE , MANCHESTER
M3 2ER

FAY STOCKTON (dissolve)
Director, COMPANY DIRECTOR, 1997.07.22 - 1998.08.24
1A HEATHCOTE STREET BLOOMSBURY , LONDON
WC1N 2AL

A relative of mine was once the Mayor of Devizes long ago. He was a religious man but also a bit unorthodox and willing to rock the boat. Too bad he wasn't around to challenge this nonsense, especially the "cancer therapies." Giving false hope to cancer victims can be counted among contributing to the cause of Evil, something SALPOV should be quite familiar with by now.

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Still at it with FN people. Danger! Danger! This appears to be a very recent promo--

http://www.nisgaanation.ca/outcome-nisgaa-womens-wellness-conference
 (http://www.nisgaanation.ca/outcome-nisgaa-womens-wellness-conference)

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Outcome of the Nisga'a Womens Wellness Conference

Starting on May 29, the Nisga’a Women’s Footprints to Wellness Workshop was held at the Laxgalts’ap Community Centre.  It was a two-day healing workshop facilitated by Melissa Myer 2 day Workshop which began at 8:30am and went to 4:30pm each day.  According to the conference materials, Ms. Meyer’s uses an approach called the Psychology of Vision – a path of the heart that has helped tens of thousands of people around the world through seminars, one-to-one coaching to improve their lives, relationships, and health by giving them an understanding of themselves and others. A total of 84 Women of all ages, from grade 11 and 12 all the way to elders, attended these sessions.

Guided by the conference theme ‘if we heal our women, we can begin to heal our Nation”, the workshop promoted and encouraged:

    Group healing
    Individual Healing
    Confidence Building
    Tools for individuals to help themselves process trauma
    Psychology and Vision
    Emotional Healing

One of the intentions of this event is to explore fundraising to hold a similar future workshop to be hosted in Gitlaxt’aamiks.

You know when you watch a bad "B" movie and yell out to a potential victim in the story, "Don't go in the basement! Don't do it!" Reading the above makes me feel like that.

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When I first read this piece from Emma Cook, written 20 years ago for the Independent, I thought it was fluff coverage. But now I see she actually uncovered some Spezzano flaws in a very gentle and subtle way--

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/personal-love-comes-quickly-some-people-wait-a-lifetime-to-find-their-perfect-mate-but-chuck-spezzano-believes-you-can-meet-them-in-30-days-emma-cook-attended-his-seminar-1381840.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/personal-love-comes-quickly-some-people-wait-a-lifetime-to-find-their-perfect-mate-but-chuck-spezzano-believes-you-can-meet-them-in-30-days-emma-cook-attended-his-seminar-1381840.html)

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From Green Spirit Acupuncture, v. 2, issue 2 (Feb. 2012)--

http://www.greenspiritacupuncture.com/february-2012.html (http://www.greenspiritacupuncture.com/february-2012.html)
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Psychology of Vision (PoV) 
     Founded by Chuck Spezzano PhD, PoV is the result of Chuck’s formal education in conventional psychotherapy combined with the inspired writing of Course in Miracles which allowed him to break through the impasses he’d confronted while working with war veterans suffering with PTSD. Chuck’s subsequent visionary work, which is now also enhanced by the truly divinely inspired guidance of his wife Lency, is centred on the understanding and the exploration of the meaning of  “We are all one”, as first understood by the buddha, several centuries ago, and the fear and the physical and emotional pain that result from our belief in separation from Spirit, the so-called ‘Original Sin’ and our ‘Fall from Grace’, which is, by the way, in line with Tohei sensei’s understanding. Spirit, God, and Universe are here meant to represent the same Divine Being.
     His other main teaching point is that we are constantly presented with opportunities to choose between
                 LOVE (i.e. the pure and unconditional Universal Love that shows up when Oneness with the Universe is acknowledged)

                          or           FEAR        (when disconnected from Spirit).

OK, now I happen to believe that we all have equal and direct access to God as we understand It. We don't need someone else to stand between us and the Creator as a translator or authority figure. We don't even need to believe in a God. Each one of us has a life experience that is unique. And when our spiritual journeys take us into the spider web of people who claim to be more Divinely inspired or more connected with Heavenly forces than the rest of us (e.g., Lenora's "downloading") my first instinct is to watch my wallet and wonder if this person is mentally ill or just a con artist. Welcome to the Hotel California.

And speaking of the Hotel California, what I love about this next link is how several people can play from different sheets of music, celebrating their independence, yet contribute to a greater result. Odd that the Spezzanos vilify independence which means they also disparage diversity. Don't deviate from the program, you SALPOV followers! Otherwise you might get, *gasp!* "ideas." Which might be followed by sparks of having your own life to live outside of the SALPOV money machine. And we can't have that, can we? Not allowed. So shut up and follow orders which must be obeyed at all times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTIv8hP-UIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTIv8hP-UIA)

Diversity and independence makes us stronger, not the "Oneness" mindlessness. In SALPOV the Oneness ploy is merely a form of control-- of your wallet!

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Robert Holden, who is sort of a celebrity "feel good" author in the UK, and has a series on Hay House Radio (that should send up some red flags!) wrote the preface to Charles Lee Spezzano's If It Hurts, It Isn't Love. Even he calls Charles a "psychologist." So much for Mr. Holden's investigative skills. I think Mr. Holden was used and manipulated expertly.

http://books.google.com/books?id=prJmaKUc7kYC&pg=PT116&dq=holden+spezzano+psychologist&hl=en&sa=X&ei=M5_XU_HOFsrAigL2iYGACA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=holden%20spezzano%20psychologist&f=false
 (http://books.google.com/books?id=prJmaKUc7kYC&pg=PT116&dq=holden+spezzano+psychologist&hl=en&sa=X&ei=M5_XU_HOFsrAigL2iYGACA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=holden%20spezzano%20psychologist&f=false)

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Here's a YouTube of a SALPOV workshop in action--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYP-2UCS5nY
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYP-2UCS5nY)

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This very recent SALPOV promo comes across like a television ad for laxatives. Charles appears tired, disengaged, and speaking from the Dead Zone--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ)

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I don't particularly endorse the theology of this next piece, but I do find it interesting. Here's a perspective from a German writer named Eckart Haase, who apparently converted from being a New Age follower to evangelical Christianity. He calls Charles' card tricks "Kartenlegen" or in English, "Cartomancy." Basically reducing the activity to the level of cheap fortune telling for easy marks (No pun intended, but now that I think about it, it is pretty good!)--


http://www.achtung-lichtarbeit.de/psychology-of-vision.html (http://www.achtung-lichtarbeit.de/psychology-of-vision.html)

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Psychology of Vision

„Psychology of Vision“ ist eine Psychotechnik, die von Chuck Spezzano und seiner Ehefrau Lency entwickelt wurde. Sie verstehen unter ihrer Praktik ein Heilungsmodell, das modernes psychologisches Know-how mit spirituellen Prinzipien verbindet. Den Menschen sehen sie dabei als Geistwesen: Zitat aus ihrer Homepage:
„Wir sind auf einem evolutionären Pfad um zu erkennen, dass wir Geistwesen auf dem Weg zur allumfassenden Einheit sind. Gnade und Wunder zu empfangen ist die einfachste Weise um diesem Ziel näher zu kommen.“

Hier zeigt sich auch bereits, was damit gemeint ist, dass Psychologie mit „spirituellen Prinzipien“ verbunden werden soll. Wie bei ähnlichen Praktiken auch, sollen hier bestimmte „Lebensthemen“ transformiert werden. Ziel ist es, die Lebensqualität, die Beziehungen und die Gesundheit der Seminarteilnehmer zu verbessern. Dazu werden bestimmte Methoden eingesetzt. Dazu gehören auch Kartenlegen (von C. Spezzano gibt es das Kartendeck „Karten der Liebe“) sowie Elemente des Familienstellens. Bei letzterem werden aus einer Gruppe Stellvertreter für Familienangehörige ausgewählt. Diese sollen nun die eigentlichen Familienangehörigen repräsentieren und an deren Stelle (stellvertretend) dabei mithelfen, vorhandene Probleme und Blockaden zu lösen. Das große Problem dabei: Familienaufstellung löst keine Probleme sondern visualisiert nur momentane Strukturen. Problemlösungen über Stellvertreter sind unsinnig, da die Person, die von dem Stellvertreter vertreten wird, nicht an sich arbeiten kann. Es kann also so zu keiner wirklichen Behebung des Problems kommen. Die Effekte sind einseitig und subjektiv. Da bei dieser Art der Psychotherapie auch unterbewusste Gefühle ausbrechen können, liegen bei den Veranstaltungen von „Psychology of Vision“ stets Unmengen an Kleenex-Tüchern aus.

Wie oft bei Seminaren dieser Art fühlt man sich während und kurz nach der Veranstaltung meist sehr gut. Das Gemeinschaftsgefühl, die besondere Aufmerksamkeit durch die Trainer und der angenehme äussere Rahmen tragen dazu bei. Dieses Hochgefühl ist jedoch nicht von langer Dauer. Jedes Seminar ist auch einmal zu Ende und das normale Alltagsleben kehrt zu einem zurück. Viele Menschen entwickeln geradezu eine Sucht danach, immer wieder solche Seminare zu besuchen. Wie bei einer Droge erleben sie dort den Kick, den sie in der Folge immer und immer wieder erleben möchten. Lebensprobleme werden dadurch nicht gelöst, insbesondere nicht bei eindeutig esoterischen Methoden wie „Psychology of Vision“.

Der Gedanke, dass wir alle Geistwesen seien und uns auf dem Weg zur allumfassenden Einheit befinden, stammt aus dem Hinduismus. Auch dort geht es darum, dass der Atman in den Brahman aufgehen soll. Atman ist die Einzelseele, die in der Weltenseele Brahman aufgehen soll. Es geht hier also um einen unpersönlichen Gott, um eine unpersönliche „Kraft“. Bei „Psychology of Vision“ wird dieser hinduistische Gedanke lediglich in einer etwas moderneren Variante fortgeführt.

Ganz offen wird zudem auf der Webseite eingeräumt, dass Psychology of Vision sich am "Kurs in Wundern" orientiert. Dieses okkulte Buch ist der Autorin Helen Schucman angeblich direkt von Jesus Christus per innerer Stimme eingegeben worden. Das Buch ist unvereinbar mit der Bibel. Es verbindet in esoterischer Weise gnostische Grundlehren mit biblischen Vorstellungen und deutet die Bibel dadurch esoterisch um.

Aufgebaut ist „Psychology of Vision“ in verschiedene Seminarformen. Eine besondere Marketingidee ist das 100-Tage Trainingsprogramm. Dazu kann man durch den Besuch von Seminaren Tage sammeln. Beispielsweise werden beim Besuch eines Dreitagesseminares (Kosten: 330,- Euro) drei Tage für das 100-Tage Training angerechnet. Wer schließlich 100 Seminartage geschafft hat, erreicht einen besonderen Schwellenwert, ab dem die Tiefe und Resonanz der Veränderungen bei einem selbst sich dramatisch erhöhen (Zitat aus der Webseite: „there is a definite benchmark – a paradigm shift – that occurs at 100 workshop days“).

Jeder 100 Tage-Absolvent muss mindestens ein „Step to leadership“-Programm erfolgreich absolvieren. In Ländern, in denen es dieses spezielle Programm nicht gibt, wie in Malaysia, müssen Teilnehmer, die dennoch das 100-Tage Training absolvieren möchten, als Ersatz eine Menge an Büchern von Chuck Spezzano lesen und einen Report darüber schreiben:
“In countries where there is no STL, eg Malaysia, students may apply for exceptions in order to be able to graduate from the 100-day program. They then might be asked to read a couple of Chuck's books and write a report on them to ensure they are familiar with the psychological and spiritual dynamics and principles.”

Einen besonderen Marketing-Gag haben sich die „Psychology of Vision“-Macher einfallen lassen, als sie die „App der Erkenntnis“ für Apple iPhone und iPod-Touch entwickelten. Die app beruht auf dem „Enlightenment Pack“ („Erleuchtungs-Pack“). Erleuchtung per iPhone – darauf muss man erstmal kommen.

„Psychology of Vision“ reiht sich ein in eine Reihe von Psychotechniken, vor denen allesamt gewarnt werden muss. Der esoterische und okkulte Charakter wird bei näherem Hinsehen überdeutlich. Der wahre Gott kommt hier natürlich nicht vor. Erlösung und Heil durch Jesus Christus wird man mit keinem Wort bei Praktiken dieser Art finden. Dabei kann wirkliche Heilung niemand anderes schenken als der Schöpfer aller Dinge. Die Frage ist nur wem wir vertrauen: Gott oder esoterischen Quacksalbern? Die Wahl sollte nicht schwer fallen.

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Does Lenora Kay Spezzano possess magical "channeling" powers?

Why yes, according to her YouTube intros. Catch the first minute of this video--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg)

And here's the text summary--

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Published on Dec 5, 2012

Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download." Open your heart and receive the gift as well.

Whatever you do, don't call it "hypnosis." That reeeeeally bugs her and she'll send lawyers after you. She's an empath who channels the Divine Grace of Heaven! I'm Lenora Kay Spezzano and you aren't!

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In conclusion

SALPOV is a dangerous and toxic for-profit personality cult. The survivors around the world need to be encouraged to seek exit counseling. There is so much more to life than filling the Spezzano bank account. If you are subscribing to the SALPOV regulations you have traded in your options and freedom for a very questionable form of false security promised by two unqualified people.

Escape and seek help. It will take courage and be uncomfortable at first. But in the long run you'll look back and wonder why you wasted so much money and time on the Spezzanos. Then you'll learn from it and move to a more rewarding life where you get back in touch with the real world, flaws and all, instead of obeying all the Spezzano's busy work. We're human, that means we make mistakes, that's normal.

It is never too late to reset and start over.

Acceptance is the answer. Respect yourself, warts and all, and just walk away. It just means you are a complicated human, like the rest of us. That is TRUE "Oneness."  We're ALL screwed up! SALPOV is a money addict. The more you give, the more they want. And they will create reasons for you to give more, if not through their offers to climb up their un-level hierarchy, then through pure guilt, which they induce. And they are giving you a place to hide and feel secure. But at what price? Do you want to be a slave? Their hiding place is becoming less and less safe by the day.

Cheers, here's to freedom.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 06, 2014, 01:19:41 am
The Spezzanos modestly posted this on their own website. My, how pleasing. To truly appreciate it, this needs to be read out loud.

I do not believe any further comment is required. This poem speaks for itself, as does the fact the Spezzanos themselves have made it available for all of us to enjoy.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm
 (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm)

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For Chuck and Lency and the POV office staff:


Holding us firmly in your heart
We get a chance to enjoy another new start
Treating us with both kindness and compassion
Allowing us to experience our own true passion
Hugging us in a way that melts our hearts
Bringing joy to our faces which will never part
Working behind the scenes setting the foundation
Uniting all brothers and sisters, races, cultures, countries and nations,
I don’t know if these words can truly express
The depths of love’s feeling flowing to you in excess
I look in your eyes and feel God’s beauty
Way beyond and transcending any role, rule or duty
Feeding us to fullness on every level
Helping us to eradicate every demon and devil
Working tirelessly to get us all here to this spot
Where we can each go inside and untie every knot
We wholeheartedly thank you over and over again
Helping us all to heal every problem, hurt, wound and/or pain
You are part of God’s Foundation that feed our souls
Helping to reach Oneness as our only goal
You help raise our Spirit’s in delightful ways
You truly are the Brilliance of God’s Great Rays
Thank you once more for being our friends
As we heal to wholeness by making amends
Greeting us all with your whole being open wide
We feel you love rumbling deep, deep inside
Thank you for Blessing us with Your Divine Presence
For you truly are molded from God’s Divine Essence
Thank you for being miracle-minded, miracle workers
Helping each of us to be Love Berserkers
Your peaceful ways bring love to the earth
We feel it so fully, it energizes our worth
Thank you for the joy of your smiling faces.
Transporting us all to Heavenly Places
Thank you for living your song from within
Helping us to abolish all pain, fear, hurt, guilt and sin
Please forgive us if we don’t always show or say it
Yet please believe me when I say we always feel and know it
May your lives be filled with abundant Grace
For you are helping enlighten the whole human race!

God Bless You!  God Bless You!  God Bless You!
With Love

Jack Miller, 2013 Mastery   
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on August 06, 2014, 06:19:28 pm
Evidence of POV making inroads into the Upper Nicola Band of BC, Canada:

     a therapist at Upper Nicola Community Health Services who lists POV as one of the "modalities" she uses http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/corinne-mackenzie/23/701/b93 (http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/corinne-mackenzie/23/701/b93)

     a testimonial from the Upper Nicola Band Health Accreditation Coordinator http://21stcenturydynamics.com/success-from-the-inside-out-for-first-nations/ (http://21stcenturydynamics.com/success-from-the-inside-out-for-first-nations/) about a POV program that targets First Nations

The POV course "The Historical Effects of the Residential Schools on our People" especially concerns me. http://21stcenturydynamics.com/healing-the-legacy-of-residential-schools/ (http://21stcenturydynamics.com/healing-the-legacy-of-residential-schools/) POV and their various guises is all about the money, this b.s. is especially not safe for people who have experienced trauma.

Some of the course text was taken from http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/a-history-of-residential-schools-in-canada-1.702280 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/a-history-of-residential-schools-in-canada-1.702280) , doesn't look like POV gives accurate attribution to their sources.

A quote from their FN material:

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Discerning the Unnatural Behavior We Witness Amongst First Nations People
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 09, 2014, 01:08:31 am
We have documented in great detail here on NAFPS the very strong connection and influence of Oneness University on the Psychology of Vision mission/curriculum and how it persists to this day. We have demonstrated that any mention in SALPOV of "Oneness Blessing," or "Deeksha" traces directly to OU. Exactly why Lenora Kay Spezzano and young Christopher Spezzano vilify Oneness University is something of a mystery, since neither one of them provided any details or dates or examples in their condemnation of OU.

I see the failure of SALPOV to give credit to OU for providing at least half of their current profit-oriented schtick to be bad form. No class whatsoever. SALPOV swipes OU philosophy, and then turns around and attempts to erase all trace of their debt to them. Then they get all huffy when this is pointed out. Why?

Since we have already done our homework and research and exposed the Spezzanos as not being factual on this subject, let us move on to the cult followers and supporting character actors in this SALPOV soap opera. Yes, it is like beating a dead horse, I know. But in the interest of documentation I will provide more Oneness U./SALPOV connection and influence for the benefit of law enforcement, journalists and SALPOV cultbusters.

The thought crosses my mind that perhaps one Spezzano objection to Oneness University is that it became a powerful rival and siphoned off the paying customers that had been groomed to contribute to the Charles and Lenora bank account. I could be wrong about this, but until SALPOV provides a detailed reason, I'll sit on this guess for a time. I am open to reading more information that would change my mind with the addition of new facts, and encourage SALPOV corporate executives to provide better data. Why do they hate Oneness University so much, especially since OU dogma was so deeply incorporated into SALPOV culture?

OK, now let's get hoppin'. The following individuals all provide, in their own way, a bridge between SALPOV and Oneness University--

Pam Carruthers

Trainer from 2001-2009

Excerpts from Pam's 2011 online biography--

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... I have continued training with Psychology of Vision since that day, and can honestly say that it has transformed my life. This path has taken me many times to the exotic islands of Hawaii, the mountains and forests of Vancouver and the awesome red rock of Sedona, Arizona. And eventually, India. My search was to understand my life and to find peace of mind.

... My work as a coach and trainer has a solid spiritual/psychological foundation. It is based on my training with Chuck and Lency Spezzano, co-founders  of Psychology of Vision. This work is based on A Course in Miracles. Since 1994 I have had over 430 residential days of professional training in transformational healing processes. I qualified as an NLP Practitioner in 1998.

... In January 2010 I became a Oneness Blessing Giver.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110830180839/http://www.healingstars.com/bio-pam-carruthers/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20110830180839/http://www.healingstars.com/bio-pam-carruthers/)

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In the Starlight Astrology report, my Guiding Star is Spica, and on a workshop several years ago during a Oneness Blessing meditation I saw in my mind a circle of 6 stars above my head.

http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/astrology-reports-shop/starlight-astrology-report/ (http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/astrology-reports-shop/starlight-astrology-report/)

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I decided to give it a good start and bless it, so I took it along to a meditation and Oneness Blessing evening to ‘baptise’ it.

http://www.healingstars.com/birthday-oracle-my-first-book-published/ (http://www.healingstars.com/birthday-oracle-my-first-book-published/)

Excerpts from Pam's 2013 Workshops page--

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People feel and often look years younger afterwards. Years of stress are shed and burdens lifted. They all embody the healing principles of Psychology of Vision that have transformed Pam’s life.

Pam is now a Oneness Blessing Giver, so the Grace and healing is accelerated for everyone.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130503115650/http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20130503115650/http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/)

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With others in the group, I gave and received deeksha, and this always brings me profound spiritual insights. I came away smiling!

http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/here-comes-sun/ (http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/here-comes-sun/)

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You then step into the Sacred Circle of your chart. You are connecting with a sacred moment in time – your birth. With Pam’s guidance, you’ll discover and heal your core soul patterns. Your process will finish with a Oneness Blessing to complete your process.

http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/healing-your-birth-story/ (http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/healing-your-birth-story/)

There is a lot more. In Pam's case, SALPOV appeared to be the gateway drug to Oneness/Deeksha Blessing.

Elaine Hofer

Trainer in 2011

Excerpts from a 2012 website (translated from German)--

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Methods

    Trainer after Psychology of Vision
    by Chuck Spezzano
    Klangschalenmassage
    Sound Therapy
    Kinesiology
    Brain Gym
    Cranio Sacral balance
    Essences and tissue salts
    Methamorphische massage
    Energetic Spine
    Telephone coaching by appointment

...

As a Deeksha giver I imagine myself as a channel for the divine grace available. In the we he is to take a step toward God go 100 steps on us.
Proven as brain wave measurements show at the University of Princeton, Deeksha affects the brain in a way that we can be touched by grace.
Grace has its own intelligence and flow to where it is just right for the reception ends at the moment

It is a special pleasure for me to be able to touch since January 2008 as a Deeksha giver people in this way and let the divine act through me.
The perceptibility is available on individual request both personally and via distance.


Deeksha helps us to come all the next leap in consciousness closer to awaken, to learn that Oneness, the solidarity with all that is, is LOVE the only reality.

[Hofer's graphic for the Deeksha topic portrays one of the current UK SALPOV trainers as the subject of the blessing]

http://www.gplienz.at/seiten/methoden.php (http://www.gplienz.at/seiten/methoden.php)

Lucie Mattar

Lucie was listed as a trainer in 2004. In her LinkedIn account, SALPOV is not mentioned, but attending Oneness University in 2013 is.

On her Facebook, Lucie celebrated her OU graduation with a happy photo of herself in front of the iconic temple there:

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Lucie Mattar: Thanks Karen! I just finished a 28 day process at Oneness University in India! On my way home today... Will arrive in Victoria Monday evening!!
September 22, 2013 at 2:24pm

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=616148908437849&set=a.123904160995662.30212.100001282372461&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=616148908437849&set=a.123904160995662.30212.100001282372461&type=1&theater)

In spite of Lenora Kay Spezzano's supposed efforts to warn SALPOV off this rival cult, the comments below were found among the many of those sending good wishes to Lucie. I don't see any evidence of the disgust and horror described by young Christopher Spezzano here. Get a load of the names included in this line-up on this tribute--
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Babs Stevens: You're Shining Extra (if that's possible!). Love you Lucie
September 22, 2013 at 2:49pm ·

J'aime Leilani Spezzano: Miss you!!
September 22, 2013 at 3:24pm ·

Francine Girard: vas-y aux toasts!!
September 22, 2013 at 7:51pm

Julian Edward [Ticehurst]: Lucie![heart symbol]
September 22, 2013 at 8:38pm

Sandra Archie: Hey, Julian....our friend looks good....
September 22, 2013 at 9:29pm ·

Babs Stevens

Long time and current SALPOV trainer on Haida Gwaii.

Her Oneness blessing and deeksha activity has been covered at this link:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37804#msg37804
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37804#msg37804)

Laura Berridge

Laura has a website called Goddess Coaching--

http://www.goddesscoach.co.uk/healing-tools/ (http://www.goddesscoach.co.uk/healing-tools/)

Here are some selections--

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Laura is an initiated Oneness Blessing ~ Deeksha Giver.  She received her first Oneness Blessing in 2007 and it has transformed her life, bringing an end to decades of  searching and bestowing a sense of deep peace, joy, faith and an enduring experience of  ‘love for no reason’.

...

Laura is a Graduate of the Psychology of Vision 100 Day Training Programme and has participated in over 200 days of training including her 30 days of Apprenticeship with Chuck Spezzano since 1998.

Isobel Wilkinson

This workshop is from 2010

http://www.amiando.com/hometoheart.html (http://www.amiando.com/hometoheart.html)

 
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Come Home to the Heart

A Homecoming Journey from Separation to Connection

An heart open to connection is at peace with the world, able to feel the joy and juice of life, to freely give and receive love, and willing to experience and learn from life’s challenges without shutting down....or shutting out.   Some of us feel lost and disconnected from our hearts and are ready to start the journey home.

We invite you to join us on a 2-day journey into opening our hearts - and letting go of the blocks and fears which seem to get in the way!

On the first day, we will explore some major individual blocks which lead us to shut-down, and use healing practices to gently release and let go of them and open up our hearts.  This will be deepened in the afternoon with sessions on gratitude, connection and oneness blessings.

On the second day we will begin with a focus on healing our relationships, followed by a deepening of the experience of oneness. We will conclude with an initiation ceremony for those who wish to join the worldwide group of Oneness Blessing Givers.

Isobel and Elizabeth offer these 2 days as a journey into a direct experience of an open heart and oneness with all.  They will lead meditations and offer healing practices from the Oneness Movement and Brandon Bays’ ‘The Journey’ inner healing process.  Oneness blessings will be offered on both days.

Isobel Wilkinson works with her teaching background to offer others a new vision of reality offered by the Oneness Movement .. a vision which challenges ’common sense’ assumptions about the world and brings  clarity and insight to our lives . She is a Oneness Trainer, an integrative counsellor and Psychology of Vision graduate .

Elizabeth Riminton shares her vision that releasing our emotional blocks and finding connection with our own sense of a higher power can help our heart, mind and soul to find peace and restore our natural love of life.  She is an accredited Journey practitioner, an Interfaith Minister, and a Oneness blessing giver.

Wee Kiong

http://www.meetup.com/Oneness-Blessing-Singapore/members/70773072/ (http://www.meetup.com/Oneness-Blessing-Singapore/members/70773072/)

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Lim Wee K.
Location:

Singapore
Member since:

November 26, 2012
Networks
Introduction

My name is Wee Kiong and my friend Joon Kee introduced me to Oneness program. I am currently going through Psychology of Vision (POV) 30 lessons course and will be completing soon.

Why are you interested in joining Oneness Group Singapore?

I hope to clear my problems in life and attain Enlightenment

John Hyslop

http://johnhyslop.co.uk/theMan.html (http://johnhyslop.co.uk/theMan.html)

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John is qualified in:

    Master Practitioner NLP
    ONENESS Blessing Facilitator
    Family Constellations
    Spiritual Healing
    Intuitive Counselling with Jessica Macbeth
    Dream Work
    Art Interpretation
    Psychology of vision
    Chuck and Lency Spezzano since 1995
    Jeff Allen (Master Trainer)

Aine Belton

Amazing 2012 Manifestation Tele-Meditation

http://amazing2012manifestation.com/ (http://amazing2012manifestation.com/)

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Aine Belton has trained in and explored numerous paths in the spiritual, metaphysical, personal development and healing fields, including Psych-K, Energetic NLP, meditation, Theta Healing, shamanism, alchemy coaching, life coaching, crystal healing, sound healing, Oneness Blessing initiations, Psychology of Vision, and many others.

Jane Kirby

http://thenewagefoundation.blogspot.com/2012/12/upcoming-workshops-retreat-by-jane-kirby.html (http://thenewagefoundation.blogspot.com/2012/12/upcoming-workshops-retreat-by-jane-kirby.html)

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Jane is a certified Therapist and Workshop Facilitator; a certified Trauma Counsellor, a master Passion Test® Facilitator, a Psychology of Vision® graduate and licenced course Coach, and an active Deeksha Giver (Oneness Blesser) for the Oneness University.

Sharon Curran

http://www.the-soul-coach.co.uk/pages/about.php (http://www.the-soul-coach.co.uk/pages/about.php)

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Sharon is trained in Progressive Kinesiology, Soul Plan Reading and Coaching, Usui Reiki, Meditation techniques and Upledger Craniosacral Therapy.  She is also privileged to be a Oneness Deeksha giver and Relax Kids Coach, helping to empower children to love themselves and others in spite of the challenges of life. In her commitment to continual professional and personal development, she has trained in person centre counselling, nutrition for kinesiologists, emergency life support and Phytobiophysics flower formulas.  She has also undertaken numerous spiritual workshops including William Bloom, Brandon Bays, Psychology of Vision and Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction.

Rifa Bhunnoo

http://brightonreiki.co.uk/master/ (http://brightonreiki.co.uk/master/)

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Reiki Master Lineage

Every Reiki Master should be able to tell you who their teacher is and should be able to trace back their master teacher lineage back to Dr Usui. My official Reiki master, who gave me my Master attunements and certificate was Dr. Caroline Anson. I have had multiple attunements in the UK and in Nepal as well as initiations/blessings from Indian Swamis. This means I can tune into different types of energies when giving healing. I am also initiated as a Oneness Trainer and attend Psychology of Vision workshops.

I honour all my teachers including: Sri AmmaBhagavan, Mother Meera, Mooji, Tejasaji, Mike Grenville, Isobel Wilkinson, Jeff Allen, Anna Ziman, Louise Magee, Pam Carruthers, Andrew Wallas, Diana Cooper, Doreen Virtue, Charles Virtue, Julia Cameron, Leo Rutherford, Deepak Chopra, Howard Charing, Anil Kumar, Kate Lomax, Swami Sivananda, Swami Vishnu-Devananda, Dr Caroline Anson, Ven Stephano Brunori, Nicole Salamate and Marissa Tapper.

Angel Peng

This one is excerpted from her motherhood blog Ace, Ace, Baby!--

http://verityy.blogspot.com/2008/01/deeksha-boy.html (http://verityy.blogspot.com/2008/01/deeksha-boy.html)

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Saturday, January 19, 2008
Deeksha Boy
You know, I have always suspected that Ace is someone who has high practice in spirituality in his past lives for a few reasons. (Even my mum agrees and thinks so)

Firstly, when I went back to one of my past lives during sessions with Uncle Chuck, I found out that Max used to be my fellow monk! So we made a joke out that Ace, in that case, must have been our MASTER! (Since he is effectively our 'boss' now ;) hahaha)

And then, of course, it MUST be a coincidence that we turned vegeterian and enshrined the gohonzon just before Ace was created and born.

What is more, he has always been taking to chanting and doing gongyo with my mother...

During my Restoration of Mastery Apprenticeship in India, Chuck and Lency would often play a piece of deeksha music that I really liked during blessing time.

A deeksha is kind of like a blessing from the heavens. If you are christian, it would be explained like some form of grace from the heavens. If you are scientific, it is just a transfer of energy to improve our nervous system and thus improve our health and personal well being.

The one that I like is called the Moola Mantra.. which simply put means invoking heavens or like inviting the gods to descend.

...

There is so much more out there by others. But you get the idea. The "past lives" reference to "Uncle Chuck" opens up a whole new topic, but that will wait for another day.

And as Charles Lee Spezzano says--

"The second week is filled with the Oneness blessing. We can be aware of it and receive it to enhance our lives and even to bring miracles as needed."

--Nightlight Newsletter, Sept. 2009

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TheShortList-/conversations/topics/845
 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TheShortList-/conversations/topics/845)

Seems to me that SALPOV and the Oneness/Deeksha Blessing (and in turn Oneness University) are very linked in the minds of the New Age set. Again, why does Lenora Kay Spezzano run away from it and deny the OU influence on her corporation? All of her "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes confirm a strong OU influence.

Also, please note there are no citizens from the States who are part of SALPOV in these testimonies as far as I can ascertain. Where are the Spezzano's fellow Americans and why do they not have a presence in SALPOV? Think about that.









Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 09, 2014, 01:07:45 pm
Even other teachers of spiritual enlightenment regard SALPOV as a bunch of nonsense.

Dave Oshana--

   
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"A false teacher will provide entertainment based around ritual much like Morris Cerullo's Christian Healing Crusades. Chuck Spezzano's Psychology of Vision events use emotional songs and on-stage enactments of forgiveness with surrogate parents. Rebirth is a common theme in Ancient Mystery Schools including Freemasonry and Christianity.

    Exciting parlour tricks seen on the advaita scene are the classic 'advaita shuffle', 'Who's in?', 'The Three Card Find the "I"' trick and 'Truth, dare or promise'. These devices are fail-safes. If they don't work in producing awakening (and they typically don't in the hands of an unawakened teacher) they at least provide entertainment, bewilderment and confusion. The Zen equivalent of these 'slick-tricks' (as Andrew Cohen calls them but avows to never use) are koans, tea ceremonies and kwat slaps."

Case in point--

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/three-card-reading/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/three-card-reading/)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 10, 2014, 02:32:18 pm
A few days ago while covering the strong SALPOV/Oneness University connection I ran across another topic of interest, the Spezzano use of past life regression. This was thanks to cult follower Angel Peng, who wrote--

http://verityy.blogspot.com/2008/01/deeksha-boy.html
 (http://verityy.blogspot.com/2008/01/deeksha-boy.html)

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Saturday, January 19, 2008
Deeksha Boy
You know, I have always suspected that Ace is someone who has high practice in spirituality in his past lives for a few reasons. (Even my mum agrees and thinks so)

Firstly, when I went back to one of my past lives during sessions with Uncle Chuck, I found out that Max used to be my fellow monk! So we made a joke out that Ace, in that case, must have been our MASTER! (Since he is effectively our 'boss' now ;) hahaha)

We have encountered this subject several times in this forum but have never really focused on it. An infamous example can be found of how Charles Lee Spezzano used the concept of past lives and was employing it as a way to blame the victim in the case of birth defects in the odious Healing Metaphors, co-authored with Janie Ticehurst.

I would provide a link, but all traces of this source have been purged, Kim Jung-un style, for public inspection on Internet after we started bringing attention to it and asking legitimate questions. It was even censored on the Internet Archive, that's how ashamed they were of their character assassination of the disabled. But, we here at NAFPS as part of our public service and effort to educate the consumer, managed to preserve the better examples--

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Down's Syndrome

Down’s syndrome is a congenital abnormality (one that is present at birth). It is the result of having an extra chromosome in our genetic make-up, usually number 21 or 22.

Down’s causes moderate to severe mental retardation, oriental appearance of eyes, flat nose or absent bridge of nose, a single palmer [sic] crease on a short broad hand and a dwarfed body.

If we have Down’s syndrome, it means that we have come to learn some lessons at a soul level. We are here to seek soul fulfillment and the completion of a cycle, yet we are stuck in the transition between the old level and the new.

The two main soul lessons of Down’s syndrome are correcting over-willfulness and giving up the ego’s plan in exchange for heaven’s plan.

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Birth Defects

A birth defect is an abnormality that is present at birth.

It represents unfinished business from ancestral patterns and/or a past life metaphor. We are being called to heal this soul level issue.

The area of the body affected can give us more information about the metaphoric meaning of this symptom.

Such a class act, eh? 

So, back to the main thesis. What exactly is "past life regression"? Well, let us check three very different sources for a definition. First, the junk food of information storage, the ever popular vox populi Wikipedia--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression)

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Past life regression is a technique that uses hypnosis to recover what practitioners believe are memories of past lives or incarnations, though others regard them as fantasies or delusions or a type of confabulation. Past life regression is typically undertaken either in pursuit of a spiritual experience, or in a psychotherapeutic setting. Most advocates loosely adhere to beliefs about reincarnation, though religious traditions that incorporate reincarnation generally do not include the idea of repressed memories of past lives.

Now let us move to the Television Goddess of the New Age, Oprah--

http://www.oprah.com/health/Does-Past-Life-Regression-Work (http://www.oprah.com/health/Does-Past-Life-Regression-Work)

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In May 2008, Dr. Oz introduced viewers of The Oprah Show to Dr. Brian Weiss and his study of past-life regression. Dr. Weiss uses hypnosis to lead his patients back in time to their earliest memories. Then he takes them even further back to what he says are their previous lives. From that point, Dr. Weiss says he and his patients are able to examine the experiences that seemed to have formed the roots of their current fears and phobias. Dr. Weiss says if you can connect your current fears to a past life, those fears will often disappear.

And finally, from the Skeptic's Dictionary--

http://www.skepdic.com/pastlife.html (http://www.skepdic.com/pastlife.html)

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Past Life Regression

Past life regression (PLR) is the alleged journeying into one's past lives while hypnotized. While it is true that many patients recall past lives, it is highly probable that their memories are false memories. The memories are from experiences in this life, pure products of the imagination, intentional or unintentional suggestions from the hypnotist, or confabulations.

Notice something all three of these have in common? That's right, the use of hypnosis. Lenora Kay Spezzano has told us that hypnosis is not used in SALPOV. In the Ripoff Report she said so directly--

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)

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Do we use hypnosis? No.

Do they use hypnosis? Yes.

That is my opinion, which I can express as a free person. I do not agree with her claims that she "downloads" heavenly forces. It is pretty obvious, as in the following link, what is happening in her Youtube "joining" sessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg)

Back to past life regression. If we agree PLR involves hypnosis, then Lenora is possibly not the only one of the SALPOV corporate executive team incorporating this practice into their manipulation of cult followers in order to loosen those checkbooks.

Here's a page from Time Line Therapy and the Basis of Personality / by Tad James and Wyatt Woodsmall (notice the inaccurate description of Charles as a "psychologist"). These paragraphs reveal some of the tricks of the trade and how the "past lives" concept is used to manipulate the client--

http://books.google.com/books?id=HMo9AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=%22chuck+spezzano%22+%22past+lives%22&source=bl&ots=xdZhdf1yeR&sig=oYg3LMk9TwFps2dSN0CC7ldrbcE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=l-jmU_GAFeLTiwLu9oCYCg&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=%22chuck%20spezzano%22%20%22past%20lives%22&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=HMo9AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=%22chuck+spezzano%22+%22past+lives%22&source=bl&ots=xdZhdf1yeR&sig=oYg3LMk9TwFps2dSN0CC7ldrbcE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=l-jmU_GAFeLTiwLu9oCYCg&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=%22chuck%20spezzano%22%20%22past%20lives%22&f=false)

And now we hear from Charles himself.

Charles Lee Spezzano, July 13, 2013

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/07/healing-past-life-metaphors.html?q=healing+past+lives (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/07/healing-past-life-metaphors.html?q=healing+past+lives)

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HEALING PAST LIFE METAPHORS
HEALING PAST LIFE METAPHORS is the card for today. Call them what you will, we have these unconscious stories that pattern our minds, emotions and lives setting up what occurs. These can be healed as easily as anything. They depend on remaining hidden. As soon as you find what they are you can change them. Dark stories depict unlearned lessons and mistaken choices. Instead of these stories we can invite love and Divine Presence into changing the pattern and filling the story with light, love and miracles and redoing it, learning the lesson involved.

You can see these stories in dreams or through hypnosis or with strong intention, asking for Heaven's help and using your intuition you can do the same. Ask yourself if you were to know is this story in a certain country. Then ask if in the story you are a man or woman. Next ask what happened in that story that's causing all the problems and affecting you now. After reflecting on that a bit, ask that love and Divine Presence fill that story ever since you were a little child. Ask for miracles of love and see yourself sharing those and being given to everyone and everything in that story. How are things turning out now. Bring the successful energy of that story through your whole mind correcting it and right up to the present moment. If the story didn't get better much, there is a hidden resistance that wants something more than healing. You can choose again what you want. You might want to ask what the other agenda is and consider if that is what you really want....have a good one!

You all caught that "hypnosis" mention, right?

Well, you know what they say, "Never give a seeker an even break."




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on August 10, 2014, 09:21:52 pm
 well brought up points about past lives with chuck spezzano Sandy S
this is a very good point and is a very serious one,
there was a young woman that was taking chuck spezzanos workshops and she told me one time she felt brave enough to bring up her own sexual abuse when she was a child,
she told me when she brought this up in their "group" Chuck Spezzano told her  that the reason she was sexually abuse is because she was a rapist in her past life !!!
needless to say this floored her and messed her head up to the point that she was suicidal,
 she said she tried getting a hold of Lency Spezzano on the phone ,Lency's vancouver worker kept making appointments with Lency on the phone, Lency never did answer back to the woman in distress, they had some Pov 100 day grads and the local "advanced trainer" show up and circle their arms around the victim ,holding hands and saying/chanting PoV prayers, the victim said this was Pov was causing her breakdowns and did not want anymore PoV crap pushed on her, she never did get proper after care and did attempt suicide, she almost succeeded, we're all lucky she is still alive, she is now a loving person and an excellent mother to her children, something she could not be if she was still involved in chuck spezzano's high demand group - Psychology of vision.
perhaps there are many more cases of gross negligence and uncaring for human beings that take chances with PoV, one case is to many . yet these PoV people are in extreme denial about listening to and caring of people that did have problems from being recruited into their group. this makes them very dangerous to the unsuspecting public.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: debbieredbear on August 10, 2014, 10:07:22 pm
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there was a young woman that was taking chuck spezzanos workshops and she told me one time she felt brave enough to bring up her own sexual abuse when she was a child,
she told me when she brought this up in their "group" Chuck Spezzano told her  that the reason she was sexually abuse is because she was a rapist in her past life !!!


This is HORRIBLE!! I hate people who blame the victim. I remember a few years ago, a nuage "counselor" told a victim of moestation that he
"chose this experience."WTF??? Fortunately, people were outraged and took that "counselor" to task. Especially when they found out that he didn't turn the perp in. In this state, counselors are licensed and are made to be "mandatory reporters" when child abuse is suspected. I feel so bad for the young woman who was lied to by the POV jerks and told she had been a rapist in a past life. :(
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on August 10, 2014, 11:02:51 pm
it is horrible beyond belief , especially when PoV deceives the public that they have all the answers to your personal utopia, other woman came and told me after a "chuck" workshop they went on a 3 day drunk because they were so traumatized with no one to turn to for help after the spezzanos left town , they said what else could they do ?? this is so horrible to hear these innocent trusting women ending up like this, they're already vulnerable and looking to better their lives in a good way, none of them have anything good to say about Chuck & Lency Spezzano.. after being "opened up" and left out by themselves to fend for themselves, how could they say anything good about this happening to the?? this is what the spezzanos do not want to hear and when pepole do speak about negative reactions, the spezzanos do not listen to anyone, I wonder if they do not acknowledge the victims because they know they're not qualified or licensed , the victims cannot even get insurance for themselves, they are given waivers to sign away their rights, the psychology of vision high demand group is all experimental,people should know this before the risk their lives and mental health.
 every one said to a T that they went in for the promised healing and it was not healing that happened to them,
buyer totally beware on this group
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on August 11, 2014, 05:56:01 am

Past life regression is performed - among others - in hypnosis and in respiratory therapies based on techniques of hyperventilation. Hyperventilation can reveal traumas that vulnerable people have so deep split, that they actually do not remember - until they under tremendous stress, which they bring in a feeling being near to death, under hyperventilation may arise. Hyperventilation can be caused by a strong emotions, for e. g. aggression or anger. (Even the fight to stand by a situation which is an unbearable torture) I can imagine, if that is not claryfied that POV "easily" misinterpreted this as "Past life regression".
These so-called "Past life regression" does not exist very probably. There are repressed experiences that come out under tremendous stress, which took place in life. This does not mean that a blame is implied. If a blame really exists, the person can learn to live with it.

If the person concerned should have taken a debt from a previous life, he could never really work with it, because there is no actual real relation between his actions and the deliverables and consequences. POV can expand their work with enormous psychological pressure on an effective base.

Psychology of Vision .... psychology ... if someone comes into a crisis, POV is obliged to conduct a crisis intervention or to ensure direct contact with a qualified person. If this is disable / prevented, this is to render assistance and should be prosecuted. Probably the POV can successfully escape through contractual clauses
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 11, 2014, 12:54:35 pm
Here's another rare written account of what happens inside of a Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision session from the point of view of a hapless client.

From: "Hentak Kaki Cepat Hentak"

I took the liberty of bolding, for you SALPOV watchers, some of the more intriguing passages--

http://hentakaki.blogspot.com/ (http://hentakaki.blogspot.com/)

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Sunday, October 5, 2008
My 4 days life changing course of Psychology Of Vision
Hmm. so my retreat of 4 day workshop has come to an end. what is the course about?
Its Psychology of Vision.. And mine am I lucky. My 1st! and it comes from the Master Trainer himself "Dr Chuck". If u know the guy, hes good! and hes real gd @ psychic.. reading ur mind.. charkras, numerology. and e best part; with sexuality jokes. His forte.

People say that with his legacy of 4 other master trainers in his team, each has its own special healing power and side.

and can u believe it? i actually paid $1800 for it. wow. it is by far the most expensive course i have gone through so far. Remarkable. that must be 1st big breakthrough i have stepped out. but i mean, whats the amt anyay. Not a big deal really. compared to the massive amt of things i actually heal from the course. Like they always said how much u receive is how much u given out!

But well.. Reality-check-back in place..
dude.. im real broke! Boo hoo. can anyone help me? im in dire need to improve my finanacial status currently
. People who know me in person will know.. i have a family to feed... !!! anyone needs a maid ? I can be 1. Just kidding. but seriously, if you guys have any assignments or lobangs, let me know. Im more than willing to earn $$.

Is it silly of me? i mean not knowing how to plan my finance well n spent it on course so big amt instead? Am i not thinking? well... at least i knew my wife will think so.
(but in fact i do know shes a great wife, bcos although she felt no signifiacne of the course and such, not least interested, she didnt stop me from attending. Thank you my beloved)

2ndly i hva to thank Yanni Jie and CJ ( e loovey couple) for introducing me to the course. CJ im sorry i was rather unhappy with u. cos i felt u didnt kept ur promise. u said i could take a pic w/ Dr Chuck just now. but u escorted him out after the workshop ended. that is despite i have signalled and reminded u again. the least u could do was to ask on my behalf for me. at least u tried. But anyway, taht aside. im just doing a confession. Iv forgive u. I lay e expectations of u. Its my bad. I realised i ought to thank u instead. for letting me know of such a workshop in e 1st place!

And Jack. my mentor.. or rather ex mentor. or exangel. i missed u! I agree after linkup after my POV course ended to see u for sharing session, I was unhappy that u felt i was judging u. ( u know e part abt the "independant part" Yanni asked to convey the msg onto u) but after much thoughts i could understand i should not blame you. y should i? I was just judging u judging me. And the biggest TRAP is that Judgement kills. Judgement is just the EGO telling me compensation of needs. And that is where it all started.. Attacking myself.. Slash Slash" och!

I have since manifest and ask for forgiveness and blessed u all. including my beloved wife, destin my son. my parents , my brothers and all my very caring friends and significant specials that have crossed my life paths these 25 years.

Wow.. what a few lessons learnt few hours after the course ended. and i havent even
garduate the anniverary of 1 day. Imagine what 1 wk will be.. its getting interesting really. Abt life.

Seriously my in depth feeling currently. Now that the course ended.
Im feeling the 1st pain now as im writing this.
They called it "regretion b4 end" it means the fear of the course completion.
So its a term where u know some people fall into traps of repeated occurances wheere just before a major project finishes, the team members in it destroy it. bocos part of them inner self is resisting the completing. they are afraid of losing each other. Afraid to move on next lvl. where they may never see once another again. where thay may not be doing the same usual project knowing whats happening next again. eveything becomes uncertain.

But i guess for me now, the best way to describe it now is regretion after end. cos the course ended. I miss my team..

Like they said during the 1st day of workshop,
How our team mates, Our buddy represent part of us in life. They are there for a reason, purppose. Like how universe has choosen us to be together.

Louis ( who manifested as my daddy fathery figure sense of comfort)
Veron ( who manifested as my mummy - tm leader)
Summer ( who manifested as my angel coz she always seemed so bubbly n confident)
Hwee Noi ( who manifested as my wife and my significant Ex - buddy )
pps: by e way, buddy u looked very adorable and nice i must confess i was attracted to u at some point or another during e 4 days with u. im sorry. i hope no 1 gets offended when reads this. but im just speaking my heart. nothing much really :)
Victor ( who manifested as my mini me coz hes seemed to be the leader to lead the way same history like finding back PURPOSE in life)
pps: people who know me well will know i have been living like a living dead for god damn since u know how long coz of these layers and layers of hurt and pain. Most importantly Victor means victory. as i want myself to be too!

So with that, i also manifest and pray e best for u all!

Gd nite and hear from me again... which i will talk abt e workshop. I know i havent started.

- Signed: Warren Oh.
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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on August 12, 2014, 08:35:43 pm
 from reading the research about chuck spezzano , it is clear that his psychology of vision fits the descriptions about what makes a cult.
health professionals medical doctors and trained mental health counselors all say that PoV is a cult.
I feel strongly that is a cult too, i've personaly been told by members about problems they had from involvement with chuck and lency spezzanos "teachings",one persons story about trying to talk with lency spezzano on the phone went un answered, the person was told several times when lency would talk with her, lency never did talk with the person needing help after their workshop, she was suicidal and made an attempt to do it. luckily for her and her children she survived,
neither chuck or lency tried to get a hold of this person to help her, although not having anymore spezzano help may be a good thing for the person having problems, yet the spezzanos still project themselves on the internet to the unsuspecting public with an image that they are qualified to fix peoples minds and chuck spezzano is a qualified psychologist and referred to as doctor chuck by many of his victims.they are not licensed and they show absolutely no remorse for almost destroying a persons life, they say no one complained about negative problems.. well if you do not answer peoples calls for help this is another form of denial by the top denial experts themselves... chuck and lency spezzano ..this alone makes them an extremely dangerous high demand group to risk your life with,
  the federal and provincial government knows all about these spezzanos, as does the royal Canadian mounted police , I truly don;t understand how the government and the rcmp can continue to allow any harmful group to carry on. especially when there is overwhelming researched evidence showing and telling they are harmful.
this spezzano outfit was mentioned in this years earlier news paper article so this group is not new to the news media or first nations and federal & provincial governments.

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TurtleIslandNativeNetwork/conversations/topics/240
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 15, 2014, 01:41:52 am
Came across a most interesting website today in German called Ratgeber-News-Blog : Esoterik, Alternative Heilmethoden, Homöopathie, Anthroposophie, Religion--

and it included an article posted by Elke entitled, Chuck Spezzano – triviale Sprüche und schmierige Witze

http://ratgebernewsblog2.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/chuck-spezzano-triviale-spruche-und-schmierige-witze/ (http://ratgebernewsblog2.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/chuck-spezzano-triviale-spruche-und-schmierige-witze/)

I used Google translate on the post and am including the results here. Not exactly an easy to read or great translation, but you get the idea. The original includes some good links. Enjoy--

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Chuck Spezzano - trivial sayings and greasy jokes

Guest Post by Dr. House

One of the now numerous psycho-gurus who want to bless humanity with their trite and mostly unrealistic wisdom, Chuck Spezzano is. About the man whose biographical background as colorful shimmers like the shirts worn by him, his wife and the Lency of them invented "Psychology of Vision" is the Psiram-wiki comprehensive information

In the article it says under "courses, certification and approval"

   
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A documentary on the ... Canadian broadcaster APTN (Aboriginal Peoples Television Network) which was aired on 9 November 2013, it turned out that neither Chuck Spezzano Lency are still entitled to call themselves psychologists. In a broadcast made before the report call for APTN Spezzano gave the Transmitter the information, he is not applying for the title of psychologist, but called himself simply "Coach". The transmitter also advised that Chuck Spezzano was occupied in Hawaii with fines because he had claimed in presented in a custody process documents to be licensed family and marriage counselor ...

What does this everywhere announced as "Doctor of Psychology" non-psychologist at? Here is his foresight for 2014 :

"This year, big changes are happening, and we are asked to keep up with them." ... And so on and so forth.

Aha, so it will be exciting. Do I have to fly hastily in Iraq in order to keep it there with the refugees can step? No, it's not so bad, because the clientele that can be impressed by such a meaningless babble, lives anyway in a psycho-esoteric parallel universe of their own kind. But Chuck is also like an interview on phone cheaters Questico in which it be love insists on this oh so innocent and peaceful Germany.

In September Chuck Spezzano is once again on a European tour . From 11 to 14.08.2014 he is to occur in the house of the youth and in the hall building Goldstein in Frankfurt am Main. The organizer is the already well-known Frankfurter Ring . Most recently, he was there in February 2013. Not all visitors were convinced of his lecture. In the context of the Frankfurter Ring made ??on his Facebook page some criticism even:

   
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How easily older city girl but with sleazy jokes and Evening entertainment + Verzeihen- Love and strategies for 3 hours from gray February day Frankfurter be beamed out. Is he now a Trixter, sound teacher or charlatan, the Chuck?

Well, not sounds. ( Screenshot ) Perhaps the Frankfurter Ring has forgotten, otherwise it would certainly been deleted. It must be so, for Burke, repression and forgetting are proven methods on the esoteric and Psycho market, if something does not work out as ordered from the universe. So that is also run by the MMS affair with the planned appearance by Ali Erhan .

So the Frankfurter Ring for the next Spezzano spectacle stimulates vigorous advertising his lyre . The turgid adulation are hard to beat. In addition, it is also written there:

   
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Dr. Chuck Spezzano
    Psychologist and visionary teacher of life, family counselor and best-selling author. Together with his wife Lency he developed during their more than 35 years of therapeutic practice, the "Psychology of Vision", a compound of traditional psychology with spiritual principles.

And it is still a top ( screenshot ): Participate to win and Chubby Chucky Floral leads you to "Emotional intelligence and maturity." Then get couples who have not won the first prize, for a mere 795 Teuro "path to true partnership" rejected. But only if they have the same address. Otherwise it costs € 45.00 more. But let's face it: For the money you could authorize as a pair of a very different and much nicer weekend yet.

August 14, 2014 in Esotericism , suspected rip-off . Tags: Ali Erhan , "Frankfurter Ring" , Chuck Spezzano , Chuck Spezzano on a European tour , emotional intelligence and maturity , esoteric and Psycho market , MMS , parallel universe , psycho-guru , Psychology of Vision , Questico , hall building Goldstein in Frankfurt am Main , way to true partnership

The chorus of critics grows louder. It is amusing that the use of dirty jokes as part of his presentations by Charles has been noted several times in this forum from people across the globe. Classy, ain't it?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 15, 2014, 03:44:53 am
The Cult of Fear, pt. 1

When you enter the small and esoteric bastion of the for-profit corporation of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) you quickly find yourself in a place that is constantly under attack and fearful of calamity and catastrophe.

In the Spezzano world, attacks and attackers of all kinds constantly surround you. Demons, the Devil, shadow figures, dark magic, and your own guilt are among the many forces out there who want nothing more than to distract you from your soul purpose, i.e., contributing to the Spezzano bank account. The cult followers are whipped up into a state of constant alert and fear.

They have created an "us vs. them" situation on many fronts. For an expensive fee they will provide a surrogate family where you will be safe and cuddly. Lenora Mom and Charles Dad will never let harm come your way as long as you pay up. Otherwise, as moreinfo points out, forget about Lenora answering your calls for help. Follow-up is not a strong suit for SALPOV, to put it mildly. Business is business. SALPOV is a corporation created in order to generate a profit. And it is no different than most other American corporations when it comes to business "ethics." The coin of the realm, any realm, is their God.

Throwing inconvenient organisations and people away and then erasing all memory and trace of them from official groupthink is a SALPOV hallmark. 

The time has come for this cult to be held accountable. The SALPOV survivors need something called "justice."

But, back to our main topic--

So who and what are these dangerous forces out to get us? Or, more specifically, out to get those who sign on as followers of the SALPOV cult?

Let us begin with this bit of surreal self-loathing. This passage really reflects the original split mind of Charles Lee Spezzano and how his betrayal of his Catholic roots continues to eat at him. We see that SALPOV is actually his way of working through his story. Too bad he hoodwinked so many other people into helping him process his problem by employing guilt as a recruiting tool--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-fall.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-fall.html?q=attack)

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HEALING 'THE FALL'
HEALING THE FALL is the card for today. This is the deepest and most unconscious root of guilt there is that feeds the other beliefs in guilt. It is the falling into 'the dream', the will to be separate, the desire to attack and to be god in our own world where God could not follow.
 Do not be surprised if some setback starts the day that reflects the fall but know that separation is the illusion and the healing is right behind it.
Keep the faith today; there is a better way and this occurred to give us the opportunity to heal this foundation of the ego and release the primordial guilt that gives rise to so much suffering in the world. If ONENESS IS than separation is an illusion,a dream and in a dream nothing really happened and there is no truth to guilt. Claim your healing and truth today and help free humanity of its shackles.
Posted 5th September 2010 by Chuck Spezzano

Wow! That was one of the more revealing, and ironic, statements by the CEO of SALPOV.

Next, the "Psychic Attack"--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/09/healing-psychic-attack.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/09/healing-psychic-attack.html?q=attack)

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HEALING PSYCHIC ATTACK
HEALING PSYCHIC ATTACK is the card for today. One thing that can clear all of this and anything else is to ask Who walks with you...A COURSE IN MIRACLES says to ask this question thousands of times a day... If you know this you know there cannot be a problem with anything. Have a great day!
Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Healing, Hawaii, Spirit, Miracles, Clear
Posted 26th September 2012 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing Psychic Attack

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/08/healing-psychic-attack.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/08/healing-psychic-attack.html?q=attack)

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HEALING PSYCHIC ATTACK
HEALING PSYCHIC ATTACK is the card for today. It speaks of attack coming from the outside at a vision or psychic level. This may be from others, from the astral, the dark unconscious or even from us. We are perfectly invulnerable if we are not attacking. Than we don't believe that attack can get us anything and we don't believe we are our bodies but our spirit instead. (there is a vicious circle between believing we are a body and using it for attack). Today is a great day to both give up all attack because that makes us believe we are vulnerable to it and asking for Heaven's help which naturally protects us. Have a happy, peaceful day full of perfect immunity!
Posted 14th August 2011 by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/06/healing-bad-ju-ju.html
 (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/06/healing-bad-ju-ju.html)

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HEALING BAD JU-JU

HEALING BAD JU-JU is the card for today. Ju-ju refers to magic or anything beyond the natural order. This includes dark magic ,curses,psychic attack and possessions of any sort. Usually this is relegated to the unconscious mind and can come in through any form of toxic attack or abuse. Today connect with the Divine Presence and with any of your Friends in High Places whom you are or ask to be connected with .

Michael the Archangel is particularly good with this type of spring cleaning. This can end oppression you did not even know you were under . Many times those carrying strong light or a great purpose are attacked ,even by parents caught for a time in the dark supernatural in an attempt to wound or keep you small. When we are trapped by this energy,it is often a form of collusion on our part afraid of our purpose and destiny. This type of healing removes unconscious fears. Have a great cleaning day !
Posted 3rd June 2010 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Dark Magic Dark Supernatural

The term "Psychic Attack" is not original to SALPOV (big surprise). It appears to be in common usage in A Course in Miracles, which along with Oneness University is one of their "two greatest inspirations." I love the reference to "dark magic, curses, psychic attack and possessions of any sort" and "Michael the Archangel is particularly good with this type of spring cleaning." So do the Spezzanos sound like professional mental health healers to you? But it gets weirder--

Then we have the "Astral Attacks"--

The term "Astral Attack" has been in use long before SALPOV swiped it. Another example of the Spezzanos being far from "cutting edge" and way behind the trend--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/06/healing-astral-attack-used-to-stop-your.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/06/healing-astral-attack-used-to-stop-your.html?q=attack)

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HEALING THE ASTRAL ATTACK USED TO STOP YOUR PURPOSE
HEALING THE ASTRAL ATTACK USED TO STOP YOUR PURPOSE. Astral energy whether demons, devils, dark lords or just plain darkness are aspects of the ancient ego when we mistakenly chose to separate and fled into darkness. Our purpose sets us on the right track, frees and fulfills us while liberating the world from darkness and prison. The ego, the principle of separation is dead set against this and attacks us accordingly either directly or through others. Today by inviting in love and Divine Presence we get to remove these dark influences in our lives. Love and Divine Presence always come with welcome. Have a great day!!!

Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Healing the Astral Attack Used to Stop Your Purpose
Posted 28th June 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Astral Attack Used to Stop Your Purpose

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/10/healing-astral-attack-used-to-stop-your.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/10/healing-astral-attack-used-to-stop-your.html?q=attack)

 
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HEALING THE ASTRAL ATTACK USED TO STOP YOUR PURPOSE

HEALING THE ASTRAL ATTACK USED TO STOP YOUR PURPOSE is the card for today. The astral is the darkness of our ancient ego that attacks us to stop our purpose but secretly hopes to get redeemed. This a job for our FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES. Ask for the help today to remove any of this influence and keep you naturally protected from this. Have a beautiful day!

Chuck Spezzano, Purpose, Healing, Friends in High Places, Heaven, Beauty
Photo courtesy of Napua N. Heen.
Posted 6th October 2012 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Astral Attack Used to Stop Your Purpose

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-astral-attack-and-what-hides-it.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/09/healing-astral-attack-and-what-hides-it.html?q=attack)

 
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HEALING AN ASTRAL ATTACK AND WHAT HIDES IT

HEALING AN ASTRAL ATTACK AND WHAT HIDES IT is the card for the day.

The astral is the dark unconscious that is ancient fragments of the ego,also known as demons,devils,dark gods,etc. This is the dark supernatural that is intent on delaying and obstructing us as much as possible to hold back the relatedness and evolution so that they keep their base of control for as long as they can. At some level (the unconscious) it is all our mind and we are integrating these fragments which seem to have a mind of their own. Their attacks can come in the form of setbacks,attacks from others or even pure malice coming at us energetically. We can always call in God, the Tao, The Holy Spirit, Jesus,our angel,Quan Yin or the many other older brothers and sisters who have realized Oneness. Another way is to realize that we are spirit and as such are safe ,healed and whole.

Besides holding us back, the dark forces have the hidden hope for redemption and that whomever they attack will have the wherewithal or connection with Friends in High Places to send them back to the light.
This is a big opportunity to help yourself and the whole earth today. There is a karmic connection established when a victimizer attacks a victim;this ends when the victim finally redeems the victimizer. We have the opportunity to bring the light today and dispel the darkness.

Invoke the Light today. Call in your Friends in High Places and send these ego fragments back to the Light from which we all came and to which we shall all return.Help yourself and help the whole earth today by your awareness and willingness.
Posted 6th September 2010 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Astral Card Dark Supernatural

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Jan 2010 Newsletter ~ Chuck Spezzano
January 4, 2010 at 9:29am


January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter
Chuck Spezzano

It seems most of us dodged the bullet that came at us in December. Yet, now there is almost a steady stream of attack going on – vicious ego attack, astral attack, fear of change attacks, fear of loss attacks, ignorance and prejudicial attack.

Disengage yourself from anyone who is attacking because even if they are right, they are totally wrong. How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse. Violence except in self defense shows ego-driven behavior which only works for and brings more darkness as we approach the dawn. Have faith. The sky is lightening.

http://unsereneueerde.siteboard.eu/t156f2065-Chuck-Spezzano-Nightlight-Newsletters-1.html
 (http://unsereneueerde.siteboard.eu/t156f2065-Chuck-Spezzano-Nightlight-Newsletters-1.html)

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March 2011 Nightlight Newsletter

In the fourth week and the rest of March, any problem is one that hides an astral attack. This is the area of the dark unconscious that is invested in keeping the status quo. This includes demons and dark gods of Buddhist metaphor. These are ancient fragments of the ego and their power comes through our fear, guilt, greed and dark gods of Buddhist metaphor.

Charles Lee Spezzano in the March 2014 Nightlight Newsletter


http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-maerz-2014-2/ (http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-maerz-2014-2/)

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In March unconscious or soul issues continue to come up for healing. The issues we transform at this level are our own ancient and ancestral past with ties into the collective mind of humanity. So, when we are healing through giving, forgiveness or letting go we are frequently helping all of humanity. Another aspect of attack we have to deal with is the astral or the dark. As one mystic put it so aptly: “The more someone brings the light, the more they are attacked by the dark.” Yet this attack is still only a call for love and is there to help us remember that Divine Presence is always with us and that help is always only as far away as it will take for us to ask for it!

Dodged bullets, The Devil, and demons-- oh my!
Dodged bullets, The Devil, and demons-- oh my!
Dodged bullets, The Devil, and demons-- oh my!

Beware of the attack attack attack! Whip those cult followers into a fear-based huddle!

"Disengage yourself from anyone who is attacking because even if they are right, they are totally wrong." Orwell would've loved that sentence as a modern example of what he was trying to point out in his novel, 1984.

"How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse." Very true. Using this concept as a guide, a reading through this forum should reveal where the Spezzanos are coming from. But as an example for those of you who need immediate gratification, Lenora's Youtubes tell all--

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

Now we get to the section where your own body is your enemy. This part of SALPOV theology was most infamously presented in Healing Metaphors A-Z authored by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie (Patrick) Ticehurst--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)

Although the main text has been censored from public view on Internet, Charles has kept the concept alive. Curiously, Lenora Kay Spezzano basically destroyed the work of her husband and Janie in her recent "Truth" screed--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/does-chuck-claim-to-have-cured-aids-and-cancer/
 (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/does-chuck-claim-to-have-cured-aids-and-cancer/)

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In the Psychology of Vision, health issues can give us clues about what is going on in our subconscious minds. It is sort of like a psychiatrist doing dream analysis – physical symptoms can also be read as symbols for the conflicts in our minds. Healing the emotional conflict certainly doesn’t hurt a person’s chances of healing physically, and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that it is helpful, but we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims.

The bloggers claim that us looking at the metaphors of illness with people (similar to Louise Hay’s work) is actually us blaming them for having their symptoms. This, of course, would have no value for the client – blaming a person for their illness is completely counterproductive to their healing and wellbeing. Taking accountability, on the other hand, gives the client power in their life.

First she says they have done no research on this topic, and then uses a total quack like Louise Hay to defend it. As for the blaming part, all you have to do is simply read the examples we have provided (which they don't want you to see, apparently) and judge for yourself. Here's the link again--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041  (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)

As we have pointed out, Hay told a New York Times writer that the victims of the Holocaust deserved what they got due to their guilt in past lives. It would naturally follow that Hay, and in turn the Spezzanos, believe FN deserve the treatment they received from Anglos due to some kind of twisted guilt thing.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289)

But back to the mind attacking the body, a concept the Spezzanos swiped from Hay--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/06/healing-where-we-use-body-for-attack.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/06/healing-where-we-use-body-for-attack.html?q=attack)

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HEALING WHERE WE USE THE BODY FOR ATTACK
HEALING WHERE WE USE THE BODY FOR ATTACK is the card for today. This is where we use the body for physical aggression and where we use the body to attack through illness or injury. Today is a good day to find these hidden or not so hidden patterns, take responsibility for them and immediately give them to Heaven for undoing...Have a great day!
Posted 29th June by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/04/if-mind.html?q=attack  (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/04/if-mind.html?q=attack)

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IF THE MIND
IF THE MIND USES THE BODY FOR ATTACK IN ANY FORM, IT BECOMES PREY TO SICKNESS, AGE AND DECAY. This is the card for today. It is a quote from A COURSE IN MIRACLES. It is very clear about what misuse of the body can cause. Anything that hurts the body is an attack on another. Any issue around sex and domination, manipulation or power struggle have the same deleterious effect. Have a powerful day of awareness and healing around how the mind uses the body!

Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, If the Mind Uses the Body for Attack in Any Form, A Course in Miracles
Posted 10th April 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card If the Mind...

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/07/healing-use-of-body-for-attack.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/07/healing-use-of-body-for-attack.html?q=attack)

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  HEALING THE USE OF BODY FOR ATTACK
HEALING THE USE OF BODY FOR ATTACK is the card for today. If we didn't use the body for attack it would be perfectly safe and healthy. Use it for attack such as illness or as part of a fight using sex and you put it at risk because of your misuse. Today is a great day to see where we have been misusing the body and to use it for love, communication and learning instead. Have a fine day!
Chuck Spezzano, healing, sex, illness, communication, love, purpose

Posted 26th July 2012 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Attack Body Card Major Illness Misuse of the Body

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/05/if-mind.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/05/if-mind.html?q=attack)

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IF THE MIND
THE CARD FOR TODAY IS A QUOTE FROM A COURSE IN MIRACLES," IF THE MIND WANTS TO USE THE BODY FOR ATTACK IN ANY FORM, IT BECOMES PREY TO SICKNESS, AGE AND DECAY. This a powerful statement regarding the dynamics of the body. Today is a day for healing such attack. Have a good one!
Posted 14th May 2012 by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/01/healing-self-attack.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/01/healing-self-attack.html?q=attack)

 
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HEALING SELF-ATTACK
HEALING SELF-ATTACK is the card for today. All problems, all illness and injury are a form of self-attack. We can examine these areas and know that the self-attack is an obstacle to learning the lesson involved. Self-attack builds the ego and creates a vicious circle with attack on others. It is important to know that attack and self-attack are not God's Will for us. God knows us as innocent because that's how we were created. The rest we made up in our arrogance…Today let us be humble and innocent and free of self-attack! Have a fine day!
Posted 3rd January by Chuck Spezzano

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 15, 2014, 03:45:45 am
The Cult of Fear, pt. 2

Keeping in line with the superstitious and Medieval view of the world by SALPOV, along with demons, shadows, dark magic, and The Devil, attacks can also come from curses. Example on this link--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBX56I4Wlo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBX56I4Wlo)

But seriously, folks, SALPOV does employ this type of corny nonsense to keep the herd close. This statement was just a few months ago--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/04/healing-curses.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/04/healing-curses.html?q=attack)

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HEALING CURSES
HEALING CURSES is the card for today. This is an unconscious mechanism of attack and self-attack. If we curse we believe curses have effect and will then be open to such attack. Ask yourself how many curses you have accrued in your life plus how many were passed down ancestrally and brought in at a soul level. Ask yourself how many curses you or your ancestors have made as well as ones you brought in from ones you made at a soul level. Ask yourself what effect they have had on your life. Ask yourself what you have been using them for as this is why the ego would have you keep them.
Then if you are ready to let them go turn them over to Heaven to undo for you. How does that feel? How does your life seem now? Have a great day and let Heaven turn your cursing mechanism into one of blessing!
Posted 8th April by Chuck Spezzano

And if that isn't bad enough, there are Soul Stealer Shadows out there to get you! This is like something out of a horror movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHyF_5ntp8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHyF_5ntp8)

No, really, I'm not kidding. Soul Stealer Shadows. With dark magical power! This is right up there with a belief that Reptilians walk among us. By the way, there exists an absurd online conversation on whether or not Charles Lee Spezzano is a Reptilian. Just type in "hilfeeee chuck spezzano ein reptiloid" and you'll find it. It is a crazy premise, and I debated for some time whether or not I should ever bring this up, but the Soul Stealer Shadows blogspot has provided me with a good rationale. Turnabout is fair play. It is almost enough to convince me that such a thing as Karma exists--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-soul-stealer-shadow.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/10/healing-soul-stealer-shadow.html?q=attack)

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HEALING THE SOUL STEALER SHADOW
HEALING THE SOUL STEALER SHADOW is the card for today. This is a person who through the use of unconscious, magical power is able to leach off energy and even stop someone's evolutionary progress by seemingly stealing their very souls to use the energy for their own dark magical ends. It is a rare shadow but one whose hatred within us can lead to virulent self-attack. it is time to forgive these beliefs about our- selves and melt down the shadows to add their energy to our wholeness... have a good one!!

Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Healing the Soul Stealer Shadow
Posted 17th October 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Soul Stealer Shadow

And then, beware of those hicks! Those rural slack-jawed cretins (with tobacco juice dribbling down their stubbled chins) who live in the rural parts of the world! They are not well educated or wealthy like upper class Lenora, instead they are ignorant unenlightened subhumans who should be looked down upon. In the Great Chain of being they are not at the same heights as SALPOV. They have a low level of maturity, as Lenora might say. Plus, they might ask some earthy and direct questions about SALPOV that could prove to be, er, inconvenient--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/05/healing-hick-shadow.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/05/healing-hick-shadow.html?q=attack)

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 HEALING THE HICK SHADOW

HEALING THE HICK SHADOW is the card for today. The hick is the country bumpkin who's totally unsophisticated. He is neither cool nor chic nor 'in the know' about what is going on. Today a level of understanding and awareness dawns on us. We give up this self-attack and no longer let these self-concepts hold us back from the flow or true responsiveness. Have a good one!

Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Healing the Hick Shadow
Photo courtesy of Napua N. Heen.
Posted 3rd May 2013 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Hick Shadow

Gotta love that "He is neither cool nor chic nor 'in the know' about what is going on" peer pressure passage. What is this, are we in high school auditioning for the cheerleading team? Do we need to be "In" with the "In Crowd" before we can be accepted as fully human?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qaVA8TTdNA
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qaVA8TTdNA)

Independent thinking and individualism is discouraged by SALPOV since it interferes with the money flow into the Spezzano coffers.

The attack on God is, in Spezzanospeak, an attack on the Spezzanos, since they are a little closer to Him than you and I. Notice the post-Oneness University mention of Oneness--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/11/healing-attack-on-god.html?q=attack (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/11/healing-attack-on-god.html?q=attack)

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HEALING THE ATTACK ON GOD
HEALING THE ATTACK ON GOD is the card of the day. To accomplish this is to give up all attack on everyone including ourselves. It is therefore to give up all problems which are a delay and a siding with separateness which opposes God's love and Oneness that is our true state. This is a powerful tao today and one that could leap us forward...Let us use it wisely. Have a good One!

Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision, Card of the Day, Healing the Attack on God, God's love, Oneness, True State, Leap Forward
Posted 9th November 2012 by Chuck Spezzano
Labels: Card Healing the Attack on God

In all my research of the Spezzanos and SALPOV I have yet to find a single instance where they have taken responsibility or accepted any accountability for the negative consequences of their commercial actions, their cover-ups and modification of their own corporate history. Instead all we see is denial, evasion, sugar-coating, spin-control, and an attempt to vilify all critics as attackers--

The Charles Lee Spezzano communication card--

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Cards/Communication.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Cards/Communication.htm)

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Remember that the other person will be motivated to communicate if they are no longer the target. If you are saying, ‘I want to share something with you’ and meaning, ‘let me tell you what you did wrong’, then every time you open your mouth, you will be attacking – not communicating.

The above quote tells us a lot about Charles Lee Spezzano.

And hey, you can't even trust yourself. Did you know your emotions are a form of attack?--

From the Psychology of Vision Singapore webpage--

https://zh-tw.facebook.com/leapoflight (https://zh-tw.facebook.com/leapoflight)

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All external attacks come from self attacks, so forgiving others is forgiving ourselves. Can you forgive someone today?

Emotions are a form of attack.
While emotions seem to come up spontaneously from within or as a result of being triggered by something outside, at a deeper level they are meant to attack someone around you, someone from the past, and God.??

Whew. Just by existing as human beings with emotions we are soooo guilty. My, how Catholic.

And in the very real world there are us critics. When the Spezzanos want to use us as a way to rally the cult followers and drawn them close, they generally refer to us as the "attackers." The word has a strong visceral feel to it, doesn't it? Now this no doubt does aid in keeping the already brainwashed in line, but to potential recruits this blares out in uppercase letters, "CULT!!" In the following examples, SALPOV would've been better off if they had ignored us.

Lenora entitled her response to the Ripoff Report complaint as "Attack Rebuttal" and called the complainer an "attacker." The original author is a person who I know and I must say I am amused at how Lenora's "empath" powers utterly failed on all counts to describe the author when she was trying to attack the messenger as a way to deflect the validity of the message.   

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019
 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd/KANEOHE-Hawaii-96744/Psychology-of-Vision-Spezzano-and-Associates-Ltd-Chuck-and-Lency-Spezzano-scam-psycholog-1087019)

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Attack Rebuttal

AUTHOR: Lency Spezzano - ()

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 28, 2013

For the Psychology of Vision to have drawn such attack, it is likely that two elements are involved regarding the attacker. The first is that the person has a fear of feeling their suppressed or repressed emotions - they are not on a healing path themselves, and feel threatened that other people might expect them to face their emotional issues. Therefore, the Psychology of Vision becomes a frightening thing. The second element is that the Psychology of Vision has become ammunition for a fight the person is already in. Perhaps someone recommended the seminars to a family member and it was interpreted as a correction or a judgement, for example. When that fear is the filter of perception of us, there is little that could be said that would allow us to be seen as well intentioned and beneficial. At the same time, it is clear that the writer of the report has a different agenda - a personal reason for attacking us and attempting to destroy our reputation. He is not someone who is just speaking up to protect innocent consumers. He has never been to a Psychology of Vision training, and has no training in psychology.

Lenora's above paragraph reveals she has had some experience dealing with the family members of the victims who joined the SALPOV cult.

In Lenora's introduction on her "Truth" screed the terms "attack" or "attackers" is used no less than eight times, starting with--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)
   
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Introduction

Hi – I’m Lency Spezzano, and if you are reading this, it may well be because your search engine led you to a blog that is claiming peculiar things about my husband Chuck and myself, and the Psychology of Vision.  Normally, we would not respond to Internet attack; unfortunately, the level of zeal involved in this libel is so high, and the accusations are so bizarre, I feel we need to respond with the truth, in support of the many thousands of people around the world that are doing the Psychology of Vision work, who could be hurt by the slander in some way.

And young Christopher Spezzano used the terms six times in his Facebook rant, starting with--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36468#msg36468 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36468#msg36468)

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Thomas, I am so disappointed that you are continuing to slander my parents. From the intensity of your posts, it seems like you are not open to doing balanced research and are perpetuating and creating your own slanderous libel. This is illegal in both the US and Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

I can see you care about your community deeply, but it also seems you have let that feeling take you on a personal rampage in a completely inappropriate direction. I personally ask you to desist from making attacks against my parents and Psychology of Vision on your Facebook account or otherwise.

There is a siege mentality in SALPOV. The source of attacks and the variety and number of attackers are legion. This is a cult built not, as they claim, on a foundation of love, but rather on a foundation of fear. And what is being protected here? What is at the heart of the corporation worth preserving?

Two answers: The Spezzano bank account and the Spezzano position of power in a personality cult.

Here's a parting word from Charles Lee Spezzano. This piece speaks for itself and I'll give him the last word since he confirms my thesis--

Nightlight Newsletter, The Year 2012

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_TheYear2012.htm (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Light/Nightlight_TheYear2012.htm)

 
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The year we have all been waiting for is here. It is to be a year of major change with more twists and turns than a mystery thriller. The greatest danger in the world this year is that an epidemic may occur. The greatest danger in the inner realm is complacency. Do not be the horse who is whipped to go forward. Be the smart horse who moves at the shadow of the whip. Major shifts and the unfolding that occurs as a result will continue for the next four years. Do not try to drink the waves or even swim them. Surf them. This will occur by you making healing your first priority. Look at areas in which you have chronic problems: Money, career, relationship, family, health, weight, heartbreak or depression. All reflect a place you are frightened to change and go forward, places of old pain, need for specialness, self-attack and attack on others.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on August 15, 2014, 06:24:28 am
What kind of "target". What is a target in POV´s mind? Do they got a traceable definition - or st it - once again - something intangible. At least they can form its meanings as it needed to be used.

Chuck S. believes there are just two real emotions, one is anger. All the other emotions just disguise the real one anger. It seems he talkes about psychological matter: primary and secondary emotions, secondary emotions disguise primary emotions. But this is not correct how C.S. describes this. And it is false to use these emotions in this context as he do it, nor are existing just these few emotions.
C. S. give a person no chance to come clear what happened and the reason why this emotion exists. Often these persons feel guilty for life events, other people tell them day by day, they are gultiy, they get what they deserved, they must be punished .... and they wished to be punished, ... and these persons, they punish themselves, ... maybe they will be purified one day, if they had deserved it.

C. S. serve and activate this false and selfdestroying muster, this is much more easier than to clarify the deeper meaning behind these emotions and behaviour, people in therapy often struggle back to this what they used to live. To look behind the emotion, anger etc. make a person to someone who clarify the situation and - that´s the worth - they begin to know there where things they are not guilty for, they got the right to feel anger, maybe there is no reason to forgive those one who harmed them, they come clear what they decide to do and why, self-determined and responsibly acting. This is not what C. S. wishes, not in this way.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 15, 2014, 03:49:29 pm
From 2009.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Bangladesh2021/conversations/messages/1075 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Bangladesh2021/conversations/messages/1075)

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PoV Seminar in Tokyo, Japan
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    HFW Bangladesh
    May 30, 2009

    Dear All,

     

    Greetings!

     

    May is a bright month full of illumination.  There will be discoveries, illuminations and insights that will naturally move things forward for some and provide deep comfort for others. It’s a great month for healing that which has been hidden so our lives can move forward. 

     

    I am sure you all know about Psychology of Vision (www.pov-int.com) and it’s Master Trainer Ms. Hiromi Kurihara.  Last April she led a workshop in Dhaka in which some of you have participated.  Psychology of Vision is a visionary healing model based on love and healing that maps the challenges we face in our lives and provides solutions needed to get through them.

     

    I am pleased to let you know that the International Workshop on PoV is going to be held in Tokyo , Japan from 8th to 16th of August.  I have been invited by the Cocorono Vitamin Institute to attend the workshop. 

     

    Usually, the workshop held on payment basis and it is expensive for sure.  Still I personally think it is less expensive than our personal healing, gaining our heart back, fixing our broken relationship, improving partnership with friends and colleagues, most importantly for our personal joy and happiness. 
   

    Therefore, I would like to request you to think about the costs of the seminar and its pay off in your life.  After this if you are interested to attend the workshop in Tokyo , please let me know by coming Thursday (June 4th).   The tentative costs of the workshop would be;


    Tuition  fee   JPY 250,000

    Accommodation  JPY 110,000 (Twin room,11 nights with no meal)

         I personally think it will cost you about USD 4500-5000 including air fee, local transportation, food, accommodation (in a nice luxury hotel in the heart of Tokyo ) and tuition fee.  It may be less if you could find your own accommodation and arrange your food.
 

    I am sorry but we really have very short time to prepare everything, particularly the Visa.  Please share this information with your beloved ones and please let me know by 4th of June, if you are interested. 

    Please remember the quote from Chuck Spezzano, “The waves in life are big but not bigger than you and the spiritual help that surrounds you. You are not alone. Spirit means that it’s all connected and help surrounds you. Let yourself be loved and helped. Nothing can harm you and each negative event there will springboard you forward if you keep faith, awareness, allow grace and apply forgiveness.”

    Best regards,

    Ataur Rahman Miton

    Country Director, HFW

    01711 526979
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 17, 2014, 05:52:30 am
What is http://www.help-the-first-nations.org/ (http://www.help-the-first-nations.org/)  ?

Looks like it was created on June 15, 2012 but the website apparently never went beyond the splash page (See attached). Why did Psychology of Vision let it drop?

This website also shares the same source with a few other familiar places such as--

http://www.psychologyofvision-shop.de/ (http://www.psychologyofvision-shop.de/)

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)

http://www.powerful-events.com/ (http://www.powerful-events.com/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 17, 2014, 11:46:56 pm
From 2013: Prize offering from Frankfurter Ring, you lucky dogs! Participate and win! Don't let these prizes pass you by!

https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/photos/pb.134792432264.-2207520000.1408318148./10151796414092265/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/photos/pb.134792432264.-2207520000.1408318148./10151796414092265/?type=1&theater)

What is there about this image that screams out "hustle!!!" ?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sturmboe on August 18, 2014, 07:08:03 am
This face ....
this gesture ...

 ;D


my first feeling:
face: aggressive,
gesture: threat

if I don´t make this offering it is my fault if lose my life, but I will get a second chance, my ultimate last one: I can buy for just some little bucks to rescue my life. If I don´t do ... well, but what is waiting for me?

(These feelings are coming up, when I saw this advertising)

Oh what a real positive advertising ......  ;D

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on August 18, 2014, 04:03:58 pm
it makes me think ... now who is C Spezzano targeting  ?? a lot of people are reading about the poV cult and spreading the word that they are a high demand group to be extremely wary of, so now he's becoming like a used car salesman selling an old jalopy with a burnt out motor, a bad suspension and unsafe running gear, just like the shape of  Psychology of vision is proving to be,
 to use his cheap tactics with a Price discount to the first few unsuspecting victims...can we take this as chuck spezzano is getting desperate for more unsuspecting that haven't researched hi cult group.

  my, my how this has changed from promising a wonderful life by joining to offering a price discount to the first few victims , somehow i don't think this will work, I hope it doesn't.. people are on to chubby chuckie now and there is more than one of us here with critical objective thinking minds becoming educated about chuck and Pov, and with sites like this one- nafps, there are more and more people waking up not only to this scam but to a lot of other frauds as well
  i hope with all the sites on the internet that disclose and expose what the spezzanos are really so they think whether they want to belong to chuck and lency or seek true healing that helps themselves to heal themselves instead of following chucks Pov dogma,
 chuck spezzanos poster ad reminds me of the old USA army recruitment poster where it shows Uncle Sam pointing his finger and saying ..
I want you for the US army.
 Chuck's picture strikes me as something similar and it gives me the creeps


http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F1d%2FUnclesamwantyou.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AUnclesamwantyou.jpg&h=1790&w=1330&tbnid=X3SfuG-7zQtjfM%3A&zoom=1&docid=hDdfgUSBirUUgM&ei=miPyU4CHF4v-oQTg7ICQBg&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ved=0CB0QMygAMAA&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=882&page=1&start=0&ndsp=19




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on August 19, 2014, 04:31:26 pm
Chuck Spezzano told a white non-NDN woman that in a past life she was a famous respected chief of the local Nation. This triggered a melt down: she thought she could speak the local First Nation language but she was talking gibberish, she thought she was remembering and practicing original ceremonies but she actually was acting crazy and putting herself in unsafe situations.

Eventually she asked help from two elders who are very active in POV. They did not help, they instead called the RCMP on her, which resulted in some serious life repercussions for her. So she was messed over twice, first by Chuck, then by his people.

She was fortunately able to get stable again, no thanks to Chuck and his crew.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 20, 2014, 02:45:29 am
The Spezzanos have placed themselves comfortably at the center of a very profitable personality cult. Couple this with the amount of damage they have created in Canada and I propose we should start an "Idol No More" movement in North America to educate the greater public about the destructive activities of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on August 21, 2014, 08:42:17 pm
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Many of the attacks accuse us of targeting First Nations people for financial gain. In actuality, rather than “take” money from First Nations, Chuck and I have donated around 30 3-day seminars to First Nations communities over the last 20 years

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/)

An example that disproves Lency's claims: Upcoming 3 day workshop by Chuck in B.C. "First Nations - $360 (+ tax) by October 10 * After October 10 - $380 (+ tax)" http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=70 (http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=70)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on August 21, 2014, 10:00:35 pm
  am I missing something here ??
the spezzanos say they donate free "workshops" and pro Bono to first nations , but i see the spezzanos ask the Europeans and the Asian market for money to hold first nations "workshops, that doesn't add up to free to me, the spezannos still get paid money for "saving" first nations culture and spirituality by and from other cultures .bumming money from them to save first nations?? how insulting to first nations and even the people led to believe with their fantasy and romanticism about first nations "having the answer" to give the spezzanos money for the poor noble savages,
 i hope the federal governments, health agencies and real legit healing organizations start their own idle no more campaign and start asking questions about the money the spezzanos are targeting from world citizens to "save" the first nations race of people.
 Better yet i hope all the first nations people see the damage resulting from PoV involvement and seriously start their own idle no more movement for public education and accountability of chuck spezzano and his cult group - psychology of vision, a more fitting discription for them is psychology of DIVISION,
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 22, 2014, 03:37:11 am
The Esoteric Terminology Inside the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) Snowglobe

As I have read through the piles of documents regarding SALPOV, online and hardcopy, it quickly becomes apparent that one of the Spezzano methods of control over their vulnerable and gullible pay-through-the-nose clients is the use of esoteric terminology. By employing their own  language we can see they set up an enclosed little world where the participants feel exclusive and special, and, dare I say, "independent" and elevated from the dark world of us unenlightened lowlifes-- which is to say most people on the planet. So much for "Oneness."

SALPOV is a very tiny elitist group, isolated from reality, where two individuals reap enormous financial profit from the followers. I think that makes it a cult.

Needless to say, this linguistic method aids in creating an "us vs. them" mentality. It sets up what I will call a "spiritual class system," which is reinforced by the artificial "ranks" of trainers (based on how much money and time the cult follower has invested in SALPOV brainwashing sessions) and the incredibly complex SALPOV triangle, which was swiped from Bob Trask and made more complicated. The concept of "keeping it simple" is not in the SALPOV theology.

One of the ways this scam is kept alive is through the use of having a special language. We know SALPOV was strongly influenced by Oneness University and A Course in Miracles--

https://web.archive.org/web/20100209045158/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/
 (https://web.archive.org/web/20100209045158/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/)

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The Spezzanos’ greatest inspirations come from A Course in Miracles and Oneness University. As time draws closer to 2012, their travel has increased from 50% to 75% of their time in an effort to help the planet move from competitive, dissociative independence into partnership and interdependence.

Somewhere in the vicinity of Kahalu'u, the local toads and frogs are croaking through the sides of their mouths, "bullshit, bullshit."

As we have demonstrated on NAFPS, the terms "Oneness" and "Deeksha" did not really appear on SALPOV websites to any important degree until after the Spezzanos had their salvation salivation at the feet of Amma and Bhagavan in 2007. Then, in early 2014, the Spezzano family betrayed their mentors on Internet by purging all traces of Oneness University from their online history in a very clumsy manner. It was a foolish and self-destructive effort. This act revealed, on multiple levels, how SALPOV is nothing but a sham. Fortunately, we were around to document the whole thing. The coordination of this data purge among all the international SALPOV websites revealed that Hawaii HQ still called all the shots and is ultimately responsible for all fallacies expounded abroad such as the UK site still calling Charles a (*snicker*) "psychologist."   

But removing the actual Oneness University philosophy from the SALPOV core curriculum is as difficult as removing a tattoo. They are stuck with it no matter how much Lenora tries to cover it up or call it other names.

However on this post, we are going to look at the other half of their greatest inspirations, A Course in Miracles.

As you will recall, A Course in Miracles had its origin when the basic text of the dogma was dictated by Jesus through the mortal body of Helen Schucman.

Although it was written in English, the definitions of key words do not fall into the category of mainstream understanding by most of the English-speaking world. When one reads the ACIM interpretation of certain words, you can start to see how the language of SALPOV as used by the cult leaders becomes sort of a code that cannot be fully comprehended unless you have sat for long mind-numbing hours in indoctrination sessions while dishing out the big bucks for the experience.

I was fortunate enough to find this website: Glossary (adapted from the Glossary-Index for A Course in Miracles, Fourth Edition) by Kenneth Wapnick--

https://www.facim.org/online-learning-aids/glossary.aspx (https://www.facim.org/online-learning-aids/glossary.aspx)

There is also an ACIM glossary at the Circle of Atonement website--

http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/ (http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/)

Let us take some samples from this cornucopia of crap, shall we? We can start with the word "Attack," which is a pretty loaded term in ACIM and favored by Lenora Kay Spezzano. I now see that when she uses it so often she is not trying to convince anyone in the outside world, rather she is using the word as a method of reactive damage control in order to keep the paying customers in line.

It also works as a tool cult leaders can use to brush away criticism and avoid answering uncomfortable questions, such as Charles Lee Spezzano did in his January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter: "Disengage yourself from anyone who is attacking because even if they are right, they are totally wrong. How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse." 

Wapnick
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Attack

the attempt to justify the projection of guilt onto others, demonstrating their sinfulness and guilt so that we may feel free of it; because attack is always a projection of responsibility for the separation, it is never justified; also used to denote the thought of separation from God, for which we believe God will attack and punish us in return.

(Note -- " attack" and " anger" are used as virtual synonyms.)

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Attack

The expression of anger, in the attempt to punish others for their sins and defend oneself from their attack. Its true result is guilt and fear of retaliation. It is the fundamental expression of the ego. It blots out the awareness of Heaven and is the cause of all of our experience of being attacked. Exists first on the thought level (see attack thoughts), from which it may also be expressed physically. Attack is one of the primary purposes the ego sees in the body (since only bodies can actually attack), a purpose which is the source of physical sickness. Attack, however, is not real. Minds cannot attack each other, for they are joined. And minds cannot be attacked, for they cannot be truly injured. Thus, since it is unreal, attack is never a sin. It is merely a call for love.

Next, the justification for the "Shut up and do as you're told" aspect so evident in SALPOV--

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Authority problem

Conventional: Our problem with other people wielding authority over us, stemming from our desire for self-determination.

ACIM: Our problem with the fact that God is our Author, and our attempt to author ourselves, to usurp God's power, throne, place or function. This attempt, which we believed seriously attacked or killed God, is the hidden source of all guilt. In the separation, we rejected His role as Creator and tried to be creator in His stead. We tried to create our own self and even to create God (see T-21.II.10:4). However, we only succeeded in making a self-image, the ego. Now we believe we can change ourselves (a form of creating ourselves) by modifying our image. A conventional authority problem results from projecting this belief (in self-creation) onto another person, which leads us to fear that he or she can take our function of self-creation away from us and can exercise creative power over us, can modify us against our will. All of this, though, is illusion. Since we did not author ourselves we have no power over what we are, nor do others. We have not usurped God's power and have no cause for guilt (see "I am as God created me"). See T-3.VI.7-8, T-11.In.2.

Claiming that "nothing is real" is part of the SALPOV mantra. Interesting that the use of "Oneness" was also found in ACIM, but we have shown that word was basically not part of the repeated SALPOV vocabulary until after the Spezzanos attended Oneness University. The ACIM definition of "awakening" comes across to me as the complete opposite of what it means to normal people. I find myself using air quotes when I use the ACIM meaning of "awakening"--

Wapnick
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Awakening

the Course speaks of the separation as being a dream from which we need to awaken; salvation therefore consists of hearing the Holy Spirit -- the Call to awaken -- in ourselves and in our brothers: thus accepting the oneness with each other that undoes the separation which gave rise to the dream in the beginning.

Along with demons, the Devil is a frequent character in the SALPOV narrative where it isn't always made clear just how metaphorically the name is used--

COA
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Devil

Conventional: a supernatural being that opposes God and is the cause of all that is wrong in the world.

ACIM: the ego, the self we made (and think we have become) that opposes God and is the sole cause of all suffering and "evil." See T-3.VII.2:4-8, 5:1-4.

In his last minute phone call to APTN reporter Rob Smith during last year's broadcast entitled "Plastic Healers," Charles Lee Spezzano came across as sounding like some kind of nut when he talked about the "split mind" as if the world knew the background of this reference. I suppose it is possible the Spezzanos have actually brainwashed themselves and are unaware of the image they, and the rest of SALPOV, project to the normal world. Anyway, the "split mind" concept as used by Charles apparently has its origin in ACIM as demonstrated below.

The ego, that bugaboo of SALPOV, is something that Lenora keeps telling us needs to be "annihilated." That is a very powerful word but it comes across as a negative and destructive action to me. "Annihilate" is a word that evokes images of a Holocaust, an ethnic cleansing. It is a poor phrase to use, but I don't think she lifted it from ACIM. It appears to have been employed in the past by fake mystics in India, from what I can see.

Wapnick
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Ego

the belief in the reality of the separated or false self, made as substitute for the Self Which God created; the thought of separation that gives rise to sin, guilt, fear, and a thought system based on specialness to protect itself; the part of the mind that believes it is separate from the Mind of Christ; this split mind has two parts: wrong- and right-mindedness; almost always used to denote " wrong-mindedness," but can include the part of the split mind that can learn to choose right-mindedness.

(Note -- not to be equated with the " ego" of psychoanalysis, but can be roughly equated with the entire psyche, of which the psychoanalytic " ego" is a part.)

COA
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Ego

Root meaning: The individual self, as distinct from other selves or the world. Ego is Latin for "I," and when you say "I" you are referring to a self distinct from others.

ACIM: The entire self you think you are, the "I" you think you are. This self is false, was made by you, and is actually only a belief: The belief that you are a separate entity—a separate mind living within a separate body—that you have your own personal history and future, your own will and private thoughts, that you create yourself and sustain yourself. This is not who you are (see Christ and Son of God) and so the ego is a contradiction, an insane belief (see insanity), a mistaken identity. The ego is in direct, fundamental and total opposition to God (see devil). Its basic mood is fear of God, fear that it will disappear into His Love and Oneness. Its single motivation is to protect its "existence" from the "threat" of God and make itself a permanent, eternal reality. Its goal is to conquer and kill God and replace Him on His throne (see authority problem). To do this it must keep your eternal allegiance (as its maker) while at the same time trying to kill you, since you are God's Son. It hopes to attain this paradoxical goal through persuading you to constantly attack. By promising you that attack will bring you pleasure and safety it keeps your allegiance. Yet it knows that attack will really bring death, since attack makes you think you deserve to die for your sins. The ego, however, is merely an idea, and thus has had no effect on who you really are. It has no power over you and can be relinquished whenever you choose, at which time it will simply disappear, be reinterpreted. See separation. See T-4.II, W-pII.12, C-2.

The following odious Orwellian piece would give any cult leader all the justification they would need to gain control over followers and their pocketbooks. No wonder these SALPOV followers are so messed up in their thinking. I consider this definition to be spiritual fascism, or something cooked up by Kim Jung-un's stooges. I won't mince words. It is evil and anti-human. I find it highly ironic, and fascinating, that the leaders of the SALPOV cult are natives of the Home of the Brave and the Land of Free, yet have no USA citizens in their stable of trainers. Other than the fact their activities would be considered illegal in most states, could it also be their fellow Americans could more easily see through their bullshit? Also interesting that SALPOV has made no real headway in another country that values freedom-- Australia.

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Freedom

Root meaning: The ability to express your will without any impediment or obstacle; "to do your will" (T-30.II.2:1).

Conventional: The ability of your body to say and do whatever you want without impediment or obstacle (see T-22.VI.1-2).

ACIM: The ability of the mind to express its will to love and join, without the obstruction of the ego (which is an alien will). 1. True freedom is our natural state in Heaven, where our wills extend infinitely outward without any hindrance whatsoever (see creation and extension). 2. We are not free to change this native state, only to deny it. 3. This world is a state of imprisonment, in which we seem to be imprisoned by the body (see W-pI.199.1) and by external circumstances. 4. Yet the real imprisonment here is being a slave, a hostage, to the ego; obeying its alien will. Bondage to the ego results in guilt, which is imprisoning, for guilt says we deserve imprisonment. 5. In this world our only remaining freedom is the freedom of choice (see T-12.VII.9:1, C-1.7:1), the choice between the ego and the Holy Spirit. 6. We find our freedom through freeing our brothers from guilt. Conversely, finding our own freedom enables us to free the world.

Now here's the Big One, tailor-made for Charles and the Catholic priest within, the bait used to lure the vulnerable--

Wapnick
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Guilt

the feeling experienced in relation to sin; its reflection from our minds is seen in all the negative feelings and beliefs we have about ourselves, mostly unconscious; rests on a sense of inherent unworthiness, seemingly beyond even the forgiving power of God, Who we erroneously believe demands punishment for our seeming sin of separation against Him; following the ego's counsel that to look on guilt would destroy us, we deny its presence in our minds, and then project it outward in the form of attack, either onto others as anger or onto our own bodies as sickness.

COA
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Guilt

Conventional: The state or status of someone who has broken the legal code, the ethical code or the law of God (we will call this the state of guilt). An inner experience of the state of guilt, a feeling which says you are bad because you sinned (the feeling of guilt).

ACIM: The emotional experience of the belief that a) because you committed a sin, b) you have made yourself into a bad person and c) deserve punishment and death. Guilt's ultimate basis is the belief that a) we attacked and separated from God (see separation), thus b) murdered our divine innocence and turned ourselves into egos, who now c) deserve death and hell. This belief is utterly false, for a) we are incapable of sinning or separating, b) cannot remake ourselves and c) cannot die. Hence, there is no such thing as the state of guilt. There is only the unfounded feeling of guilt. Guilt is at the core of our experience here. It maintains linear time, for it rests on past mistakes and demands future punishment (see T-13.I.8-9). It made the physical world, which is why the world constantly seems to be punishing us (see T-13.In.2-4). It is the essence of our perception of the world. It is the sole cause of all pain. We think that feeling guilt is honest humility which motivates us to obey God's laws. Yet guilt is purely an ego device for arrogantly demonstrating that we are separate from God and should fear Him. Guilt maintains the ego's existence. For this reason, the ego is attracted to guilt (see attraction of guilt). Thus, the ego tells us to "sin" in order to obtain certain pleasures, to attack in order to find safety, and to project guilt onto others in order to rid ourselves of guilt. Yet the real motivation behind all of these, and their real result, is the accumulation of more guilt. Since guilt is the only thing that keeps us from God, the journey home consists entirely of teaching and learning the unreality of guilt through forgiveness. See T-5.V.

The SALPOV Trainer Application Process 2015 includes this bit among their Prerequisites of the PoV Trainers’ Training Program--

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Is able to attain and pass on Miracles easily. PoV uses the word miracle as described in the Course in Miracles - receiving a miracle is allowing the indwelling of Spirit through an act of complete forgiveness.

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trainer-Application-Process-2015.pdf  (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trainer-Application-Process-2015.pdf)

Actually it appears the use of the word "miracle" in ACIM has some very strong Christian connections. Heck, what am I thinking? The thing was written by Jesus Christ Himself!

Also, please notice the use of the word "joining" in this definition--

Wapnick
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Miracle

the change of mind that shifts our perception from the ego's world of sin, guilt, and fear, to the Holy Spirit's world of forgiveness; reverses projection by restoring to the mind its causative function, allowing us to choose again; transcends the laws of this world to reflect the laws of God; accomplished by our joining with the Holy Spirit or Jesus, being the means of healing our own and others' minds.

(Note -- not to be confused with the traditional understanding of miracles as changes in external phenomena.)

And here is another strong Christian connection, that ol' split mind!

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Split Mind

A mind divided against itself, in which the more conscious half of the mind is walled off from its own true nature by denial, fear and dissociation. This split, which is apparent but not real, is then projected outward and symbolized by a split between the mind and other minds (see T-12.III.7). In this divided state, the mind cannot truly create or communicate, for what it produces is ambivalent and contradictory. 1. The primary split is between the separated mind and its real Identity, the Christ Mind. 2. The secondary split is within the separated mind, between the ego and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Guide out of the split, for He is a unified Presence in the mind (see T-25.I.7:2-3).

Imagine trying to re-enter the real world after being steeped in this nonsense for any length of time. SALPOV survivors in North America and the UK have to relearn how to speak in normal English. It can't be easy. Hopefully exit-counselors are very aware of this.

SALPOV can count a number of influences in their patchwork theology: Bob Trask, Louise Hay, Oneness University, the Catholic Church, and A Course in Miracles being the most obvious among many others. With the exception of Trask, I would not count the rest as a stellar lineup. However it is the last named, ACIM, that is the most credited by SALPOV.

Lenora Kay Spezzano felt compelled to address this issue in her recent "Truth" screed--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-a-course-in-miracles-a-cult/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-a-course-in-miracles-a-cult/)
   
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Is A Course in Miracles A Cult?

Psychology of Vision is compatible with A Course in Miracles, which is a self-study spiritual thought system. Its primary teaching is that the way to universal love and peace—or, in their terms, remembering God—is by undoing guilt through forgiving others. It is a set of 3 books. There is no leader, no group, and therefore, it is not a cult.

The teachings of A Course in Miracles have been supported by such commentators and authors as Robert Schuller, Oprah Winfrey and Eckhart Tolle.

The last three names listed in her statement all link to Wikipedia (interestingly, a website that very solidly rejected an entry on her husband since he was not notable enough). First off, Wikipedia is a not really considered a valid academic source. It is junk that no real professional would cite. Secondly, all three of these testimonials can hardly be considered objective or from people respected by the world at large for being critical thinkers. 

Of course ACIM is not a cult. Anyone who has raised children know how they manipulate semantics and act like little lawyers in order to make their point. Lenora is doing the same thing with this topic. ACIM is not an organisation, it is a text. It is up to groups like SALPOV to use this manuscript and make it a cult, which they have done with the result being profitable to the Spezzano bank account.

Rather than being a cult itself, A Course in Miracles provides a general public domain foundation for opportunists like the Spezzanos to build a personality cult. It serves as a springboard for predators to victimize the vulnerable without accepting responsibility for the negative consequences of their actions. Instead they can always point to ACIM and say, "Jesus made me do it." 

Y'know, the historical Jesus was probably a pretty cool guy. A troublemaker who bugged The Man. A guy who challenged authority, which is something ACIM does not approve of. But I don't think He channeled ACIM. That assertion is as fake as Lenora's claim of "downloading" heavenly forces or whatever. In both cases, the burden of proof rests on the sources, and of course there is no way they can provide solid evidence.

You'll notice that SALPOV has not been growing and thriving. Quite the reverse. As the Boomer generation enters their final life stages, the social forces that created monstrosities like SALPOV have also long passed. If SALPOV was really "cutting edge" it would be more vibrant today. But it isn't. New generations regard SALPOV for what it is, a corny old fashioned medicine show selling nothing but air and attempting to pass it off as being distributors of Heaven's grace.

The sooner SALPOV and others of their ilk are gone, the faster the world can progress. As moreinfo said, "Psychology of Division" is a more appropriate term for the Spezzano invention. They claim to strive for Oneness, but in reality this cult isolates their victims and then sucks their bank accounts dry. These people are vampires.

The only "Oneness" here is how SALPOV has universal victims in Asia, North America, and Europe-- all providing tributaries that join into a river of cash going into the Spezzano bank account.  It's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U)



 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 23, 2014, 03:56:25 pm
Manifesting and Magical Thinking: Mixed Messages and Split Minds

The concept of "Manifesting" is one of the pillars of SALPOV theology, although the term appears to be a later addition to the lineup of SALPOV spiritual merchandise. In direct contradiction to the philosophy of A Course in Miracles, the use of "Manifesting" is merely Spezzanospeak for "Magical Thinking."

Three examples of "Manifesting" in SALPOV media: First, a Youtube video devoted to the topic by Charles Lee Spezzano--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcejShvZRg4
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcejShvZRg4)

Secondly, Lenora Kay Spezzano made a reference that the weather could be controlled by exerting human thought--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37820#msg37820 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37820#msg37820)

And third, in talking about a subject dear to his heart, money, Charles says in this Mo Money Youtube--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU)

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I once decided I was going to get moved to Hawaii without having to pay for it and that's exactly what happened. Somebody moved me to Hawaii a couple years later, paid for all the expenses

In the above video he also talks about "Manifesting" different realities in order to achieve "abundance."

It is interesting in that all the other SALPOV propaganda the general idea is a surrender to and acceptance of Oneness and following the orders of theological authority figures and surrogate parents who know better than you what is best for your life (i.e., the Spezzanos). But the idea of "Manifesting," particularly for material gain, seems to be in conflict with the rest of the program. What if God intends for you to be a pauper as part of your spiritual journey? What if your Life Purpose requires sacrifice and suffering? Exercising your independent will is considered bad in all other SALPOV cases, but not in "Manifesting." There is a mixed message going on here.

In fact, the Charles Lee Spezzano Youtube God and I seems to spell out that "our ego always want to make us God" and that is a bad thing.
Hmm, wait a minute, I'm getting confused. If "Manifesting" is using our will to make things change then ... ow! My brain hurts. My mind is splitting. Ow! Ow! Ow!--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiGapL4HNSE&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiGapL4HNSE&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A)

Also the Charles Lee Spezzano Youtube Living Your Purpose seems to contradict the more marketable aspects of "Manifesting." Your Life Purpose is just hanging out there waiting for you to find it, he says. So in essence, when you are sitting around selfishly "Manifesting" a new boyfriend or job or "abundance" you are exerting your will over that of God and extending the detour to the dead end of your egotistical desires that ... Ow! Ow! Ow!, that darn split mind is hurting again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCPIrs90eg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCPIrs90eg)

Anyway, back to the Youtube Living Your Purpose. Please note Charles also makes a mention of performing past life regression sessions here--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCk-iUwBBwA&index=35&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCk-iUwBBwA&index=35&list=UU92YRDiXLcmCbj4s1wGF37A)

You might very well ask, what the heck is "Manifesting" anyway? Here is a definition from the New Age friendly Spiritual Glossary--

http://www.spiritual-experiences.com/glossary.php
 (http://www.spiritual-experiences.com/glossary.php)

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Manifesting
Manifesting is a term often used in New Thought and New Age circles to refer to the belief that one can by force of will, desire, and focused energy, make something come true on the physical level.

Now compare this with the definition from the same source of "Magic"--

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Magic
Magic and sorcery are the influencing of events, objects, people and physical phenomena by mystical, paranormal or supernatural means. The terms can also refer to the practices employed by a person to wield this influence, and to beliefs that explain various events and phenomena in such terms.

Now I suppose to the students of the esoteric, there is an enormous difference between these two terms. But to this simple and unsophisticated ol' hayseed, they look like the same thing.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." In short-- Quack! Quack! Quack!

Wapnick's A Course in Miracles glossary has a low opinion of "Magic"--

https://www.facim.org/online-learning-aids/glossary.aspx (https://www.facim.org/online-learning-aids/glossary.aspx)

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magic

the attempt to solve a problem where it is not, i.e., trying to solve a problem in the mind through physical or " mindless" measures: the ego's strategy to keep the real problem -- the belief in separation -- from God's Answer; guilt is projected outside our minds onto others (attack) or our bodies (sickness) and sought to be corrected there, rather than being undone in our minds by bringing it to the Holy Spirit; referred to as " false healing" in " The Song of Prayer."

The Circle of Atonement website is even more detailed (the "stage magic" reference of course makes me think of Lenora's "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes)--

http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/l-o/magic/
 (http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/l-o/magic/)

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Magic

Conventional: Supernaturally exercised power over something, whether actual (as in sorcery) or illusory (as in stage magic). In sorcery, the words of a spell can exercise power over a person, even though under natural law these words would have no such power. In stage magic, an illusionist can seem to produce a supernatural effect (e.g. causing someone to disappear), when actually he has produced only an illusion of that effect.

ACIM: The ego's alternative to the miracle. Any unnatural (or "super-natural") power, which means any power apart from the Will of God, for His Will is the only power. Specifically, the power to save (or heal) that we ascribe to our own separate self, to certain special people (see T-7.V.3-4), or to various external things (see the list in W-pI.50.1:3). These powers have no real power to save us, for they have no power at all. Like the stage magician, all they can do is rearrange illusions and thus produce an illusion of salvation. Somewhere inside we know this, and so we only turn to magic when we believe that healing is impossible. From the Course's standpoint, a doctor using medicine to cure the body is a magician using magical powers and potions to produce an illusion of healing—an illusion because what has been healed (the body) is illusory and what is real (the mind) remains unhealed. However, turning to such magic can sometimes be the best approach due to our high level of fear of true healing (see T-2.IV.4, T-2.V.2:5-6). The Course mentions two types of magic (see T-2.V.2:1): 1. Mindless magic, which means using external agents (such as physical medicine) to rearrange external conditions (such as the condition of the body). 2. Miscreative magic, which means using the mind itself to directly rearrange external conditions.

http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/l-o/magic-thoughts/ (http://www.circleofa.org/glossary-of-terms/l-o/magic-thoughts/)

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Magic Thoughts

Thoughts which claim that we can be saved by our own separate will, by certain special people, by various external things—by anything other than the miracle, the Will of God healing our minds. The teacher of God will encounter magic thoughts in his pupils and must learn how to react to them without anger. Found only in sections 17 and 18 in the Manual. See magic.

Seems to me that the Spezzano definition of "Manifestion" fits perfectly into the "Magic" and "Magic Thoughts" category, putting them in direct conflict with ACIM dogma. Obviously SALPOV is suffering from a Split Mind. So what else is new?

Of course, to be fair, using ACIM and SALPOV as two poles apart is like using quackery and scamming as two poles apart. Not an enormous gulf there. And let us not forget Charles was self-employed as a psychic in the early 1980s--

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

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In 1980 Chuck travelled to Vancouver, Canada for his first lecture. He began doing psychic development workshops up the west coast but by 1982 seeing the need he switched to only conducting healing workshops.

Obviously, there was no money in being a psychic at the dawn of the Reagan Recession. A new angle had to be found.

Direct magical terminology is rarely employed by SALPOV or their circle. Here are some of the few examples--

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events-Old.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events-Old.htm)

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Chuck and Lency Seminars are magical, extraordinary. Do make contact with your local Psychology of Vision Trainer and see what practical healing steps you can take for yourself - and your family

http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/healing-workshops/bringing-heaven-earth/ (http://www.yoursoulpurpose.co.uk/healing-workshops/bringing-heaven-earth/)

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A workshop is transformational. Highly experienced trainer Pam Carruthers works with Aura-Soma, Soul Astrology and the principles of Psychology of Vision. She creates a magical space for you to make deep and lasting changes in your life with the support of like minded people.

http://featheredge24.rssing.com/chan-12973543/all_p1.html (http://featheredge24.rssing.com/chan-12973543/all_p1.html)

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10/20/11--07:11: Joining with Heaven

Come and join us for the magical experience of JOINING. The quickest and simplest form of healing to put you back in Heavens arms. Facilitated by Alison Banks

Although the term "Manifesting" is not used, the concept remains alive in Lenora Kay Spezzano's "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes. In the following example the client (Ian, a SALPOV trainer) has requested "lots of money and lots of friends" as a "gift from Heaven." In addition to presenting another form of "Manifesting" this also appears to be a classic example of hypnosis at work. Notice that Lenora accurately calls this presentation "show business"--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o&list=UU_Haw3QSCIkiAJGBTPaHxrg)

So as a reality check I do not think it would be unreasonable for all of those who consume SALPOV media in the future to simply substitute the term "Magical Thinking" whenever this cult uses the word "Manifesting" (or "Downloading" or "Joining" for that matter). And "Magical Thinking" appears to be in direct conflict with ACIM, so you SALPOV victims need to be aware you are in the clutches of a corporation suffering from a Split Mind.

Run away from Psychology of Vision! Run for your life-- Your life-- which belongs to you and not the Spezzanos. "Manifesting" large amounts of cash for the Spezzano bank account is definitely not Living Your Purpose. 

 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 27, 2014, 03:13:31 am
Charles Lee Spezzano appeared in a just released Youtube promoting his September book selling tour through Europe--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4)

The book is entitled Emotionale Reife (Emotional Maturity).

Charles appears tired and whines a bit in this short advertisement. He tells us emotions are all bad, but feelings are all good. Does not look like there's any middle ground or shades of grey there.

Here's how he starts out--

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Most people don't understand their emotions. And so they are gradually polluting the world with their intrapsychic pollution, which is what emotions are, they are pain.

Feeling guilty yet? That was a very finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental introduction designed to make you feel bad and seek help from "Uncle Chuck." In ACIM terms, it was an attack by an attacker. And the crap just piles up higher with every word he utters. In fact he later tells us how bad it is to be finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental.

I find it amusing that a guy who uses lewd and juvenile dirty jokes in his presentations is now beating the drum for "emotional maturity." This is the same guy who thought he was being so clever when he co-authored the following "Healing Metaphors" (now pulled from public view)--

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Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.

Diarrhea, by the way, is one of the biggest killers for populations not as affluent as Charles the rich American. It is particularly hard on children.

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Constipation

If we are constipated, then we are having difficulty with our bowel movements, due to the passage of hard and dry fecal material and sluggish action of the bowels.

Constipation shows us that we are holding on to the past. We are holding on to our "shit" (emotional detritus), with a conflict between the need to let go and the refusal to let go.

He's a funny guy, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4)

The title of his new book reminds me that of the people we have been in contact who are are very critical of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision, but for various reasons, mostly fear of reprisal or understandable embarrassment in the case of survivors, will not go public. This is especially true in British Columbia. Seems to be a common problem with investigating destructive groups. Those who are in it are too blind to see, those who are out of it are too frightened or wounded to talk. 

But others are actually quite close to the center of action and we learn a few things. Two former trainers have contacted me and were not entirely complementary of SALPOV. Another person who knows Charles well said they did not want to go public because they didn't want to deal with yet another one of "Chuck's tantrums."

Emotional maturity indeed.

As Charles himself wrote in his January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter: "How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse." 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 27, 2014, 02:22:20 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano appeared in a just released Youtube promoting his September book selling tour through Europe--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4)

The book is entitled Emotionale Reife (Emotional Maturity).

Charles appears tired and whines a bit in this short advertisement. He tells us emotions are all bad, but feelings are all good. Does not look like there's any middle ground or shades of grey there.

Here's how he starts out--

Quote
Most people don't understand their emotions. And so they are gradually polluting the world with their intrapsychic pollution, which is what emotions are, they are pain.

Feeling guilty yet? That was a very finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental introduction designed to make you feel bad and seek help from "Uncle Chuck." In ACIM terms, it was an attack by an attacker. And the crap just piles up higher with every word he utters. In fact he later tells us how bad it is to be finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental.

I find it amusing that a guy who uses lewd and juvenile dirty jokes in his presentations is now beating the drum for "emotional maturity." This is the same guy who thought he was being so clever when he co-authored the following "Healing Metaphors" (now pulled from public view)--

Quote
Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.

Diarrhea, by the way, is one of the biggest killers for populations not as affluent as Charles the rich American. It is particularly hard on children.

Quote
Constipation

If we are constipated, then we are having difficulty with our bowel movements, due to the passage of hard and dry fecal material and sluggish action of the bowels.

Constipation shows us that we are holding on to the past. We are holding on to our "shit" (emotional detritus), with a conflict between the need to let go and the refusal to let go.

He's a funny guy, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4)

The title of his new book reminds me that of the people we have been in contact with who are very critical of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision, most fear reprisal or feel understandable embarrassment in the case of survivors, and will not go public. This is especially true in British Columbia. Seems to be a common problem with investigating destructive groups. Those who are in it are too blind to see, those who are out of it are too frightened or wounded to talk. 

But others are actually quite close to the center of action and we learn a few things. Two former trainers have contacted me and were not entirely complementary of SALPOV. Another person who knows Charles well said they did not want to go public because they didn't want to deal with yet another one of "Chuck's tantrums."

Emotional maturity indeed.

As Charles himself wrote in his January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter: "How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse."
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 27, 2014, 02:23:23 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano appeared in a just released Youtube promoting his September book selling tour through Europe--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAgGGpkZP4)

The book is entitled Emotionale Reife (Emotional Maturity).

Charles appears tired and whines a bit in this short advertisement. He tells us emotions are all bad, but feelings are all good. Does not look like there's any middle ground or shades of grey there.

Here's how he starts out--

Quote
Most people don't understand their emotions. And so they are gradually polluting the world with their intrapsychic pollution, which is what emotions are, they are pain.

Feeling guilty yet? That was a very finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental introduction designed to make you feel bad and seek help from "Uncle Chuck." In ACIM terms, it was an attack by an attacker. And the crap just piles up higher with every word he utters. In fact he later tells us how bad it is to be finger-wagging, blaming, righteous and judgmental.

I find it amusing that a guy who uses lewd and juvenile dirty jokes in his presentations is now beating the drum for "emotional maturity." This is the same guy who thought he was being so clever when he co-authored the following "Healing Metaphors" (now pulled from public view)--

Quote
Diarrhea

Diarrhea is the frequent passage of abnormally watery bowel movements.

This symptom comes from the feeling that we "don’t have our shit together" about some issue or area in our life. There are feelings of loss of control and courage or feeling unprepared and disorganized.

Diarrhea reflects a fear of the next step because we have not yet handled this particular area of our life. We are "running" for it.

Diarrhea, by the way, is one of the biggest killers for populations not as affluent as Charles the rich American. It is particularly hard on children.

Quote
Constipation

If we are constipated, then we are having difficulty with our bowel movements, due to the passage of hard and dry fecal material and sluggish action of the bowels.

Constipation shows us that we are holding on to the past. We are holding on to our "shit" (emotional detritus), with a conflict between the need to let go and the refusal to let go.

He's a funny guy, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4)

The title of his new book reminds me that of the people we have been in contact with who are very critical of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision, most fear reprisal or feel understandable embarrassment in the case of survivors, and will not go public. This is especially true in British Columbia. Seems to be a common problem with investigating destructive groups. Those who are in it are too blind to see, those who are out of it are too frightened or wounded to talk. 

But others are actually quite close to the center of action and we learn a few things. Two former trainers have contacted me and were not entirely complementary of SALPOV. Another person who knows Charles well said they did not want to go public because they didn't want to deal with yet another one of "Chuck's tantrums."

Emotional maturity indeed.

As Charles himself wrote in his January 2010 Nightlight Newsletter: "How one’s process shows itself in life is much more telling than what they seem to espouse."
 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 31, 2014, 08:49:53 pm
Yes, I know my previous post was presented in triplicate. A technical glitch. Well, I guess you SALPOV trainers can't get too much of a good thing. Sometimes you guys need to hear things 99 times before it hits home at #100. When Lenora Kay Spezzano tells you that your life is a dream she's right, a dream invented by SALPOV in order to pad their bank account. Those of us living in reality await your return. Especially in British Columbia.

As Bill Wilson said: "Approaching 70, with my privileged life nearly half over, I reflect on the condition of Indian Peoples:- I have seen the effects of the Whiteman's government, religion and foolish assumption of superiority. It is a sad and sorry litany of abuse.-My Mum often spoke lovingly of the time when the POTLATCH was our only form of government AND religion. She lived this ideal all her life, remaining a strong MUSGAMAGW even in the face of the destruction brought by the churches, DIA, welfare and industry. I am glad that she did not get to see the PHONY HEALERS & THEIR CULTS, the most recent group of maggots feeding on the decaying flesh of our Nations.- They are the NEW SMALLPOX sent to destroy Our Peoples."

The Spezzanos have created so much damage in BC, but there is no point in waiting for them to come back and repair the results of their destructive cult activities. Although they gas around a lot about accepting responsibility, their response to the wounds they caused in BC has been denial, cover up, and making bogus legal threats to silence their critics. They are spiritual fascists and bullies, ruling their tiny empire through fear and intimidation. The day this couple admit they have committed erroneous acts in the line of "healing" with the result being something that will have a negative impact on their profit margin is the same day a REAL miracle will happen!

And then I found the following.

I was going to cover another topic of the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) fakery, but then became fascinated by the following document when it crossed my path in the course of my research. I will intersperse with my comments.
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/loveofsoul/conversations/topics/208 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/loveofsoul/conversations/topics/208)

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October 2008 Nightlight Newsletter - Chuck Spezzano

The big news of October continues to be the money crisis and economic downturn. I wrote the first draft of this newsletter two days before the announcement on the news of the US crisis. And though it seems bad, more is threatened. For some people in October it may seem like it is the end of the road monetarily. Don’t be fooled by the death temptation, in money or in life, it is really a birth invitation. If you have the eyes to see it, there is the beginning of a positive trend once more. This positive trend may easily be covered over by endings and much that is old news just catching up to you. If you see the rays of sunshine over the horizon, you will know the dawn is coming.

After the Bush Depression started, which continues to this day, interest in SALPOV began to go into a death spiral. Check out the Google Trends history for SALPOV. It is a dying corporate entity. The 2015 European tour of Charles Lee Spezzano is going to be as pathetic as some wrinkly old 'sixties rock group still performing their old original act from a half century ago. Obviously the Spezzanos could care less about legacy or reputation. If they did they wouldn't be pulling such obvious scams. It's all about the money. The already affluent can afford to waste their Euros and dollars on this nonsense, but average wage slaves do so at great sacrifice.  I suspect SALPOV has experienced an economic downturn just like other corporations.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%22psychology%20of%20vision%22
 (http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%22psychology%20of%20vision%22)

Spezzano continues--

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I got a warning notice from the Arlington Think Tank in mid-September. Six months before 9/11 people in the US began to have dire dreams about it. Two months before 9/11 people all over the world began to have similar dreams. The same thing has occurred now about a possible dire event in the US and it seems that the next two months is the danger zone. This may be the banking crisis or something else. What I do know is that these dire events are terrible births but there could be an easy birth instead. I have been actively working to change events like this into easy births. What I know is that if you see (or know) an event is possible or probable you can change it. I once had a friend of mine who was quite psychic by the name of Alex Tanous. He got on a small commuter flight that he knew was going to crash. He knew he could stop it from being catastrophic. No one on the same plane was injured when it crashed except him, and it wasn’t serious.

Let's keep whipping up the anxiety and fear factor to keep the flock close to surrogate Daddy Chuck, who is working hard to save us from dire events! Our hero!

That "Arlington Think Tank" is actually The Arlington Institute (TAI), founded by former military man John L. Petersen and self-described as "The Arlington Institute is a 501(c)(3) non-profit research institute that specializes in thinking about global futures and trying to influence rapid, positive change. We strive to be agents of change by creating intellectual frameworks & tool sets for understanding the transition in which we are living."

But it is a bad sign when Petersen's book A Vision for 2012 was praised by the likes of Newt Gingrich, and even worse that TAI advertised that positive review. Hmm. Come to think of it Gingrich and Spezzano are sort of similar characters in terms of shameless self-promotion.

The group used to release something called the TAI Alert. In TAI Alert #15 (Sept. 9, 2008), they did indeed sound a call for psychics to participate in predicting a dire event within the next two months--

http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/tai-alert-15-impending-event-alert
 (http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/tai-alert-15-impending-event-alert)

TAI's "Whether Map" project is an attempt to institutionalise the idea of capturing predictions--

http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/tai/whether-map (http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/tai/whether-map)

Superficially, TAI appears to be a legitimate futurist non-profit, but as you start to dig deeper it is obvious it is a haven for the same sort of superstitious and magical thinkers who embrace the paranormal/supernatural and would uncritically swallow the SALPOV dogma hook, line, and sinker.

By the way there was no event on the scale of 9/11 within the following 60 days of the prediction, unless, of course, you count the elevation of Sarah Palin in the international media as an unqualified world catastrophe during the 2008 US presidential campaign that continues to inflict the planet to this day. Well, I will grant you could make a good case there.

The psychic friend Spezzano mentions, Alex Tanous (1926-1990), was a controversial figure. In addition to predicting the future, he claimed he could astral project, bi-locate, employ ESP, communicate with ghosts, etc. etc. Here's a link to the Alex Tanous Foundation, which presents a glowing view of the subject--

http://www.alextanous.org/ (http://www.alextanous.org/)

And here's a link to a forum of critical thinkers examining the Tanous claims--

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21051 (http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21051)

Tanous spent most of his life in Maine. It is unclear in looking at a chronology of his life where and how he would have become friends with Charles Lee Spezzano. I'd be interested to know how these two knew each other and the nature of their relationship--

http://www.alextanous.org/content/light-july-2005 (http://www.alextanous.org/content/light-july-2005)

Now let's return to the newsletter--   

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In other ways October will provide some time for reflection and thoughtfulness. There is quiet intelligence that provides insight. Used rightly, this energy gives you elements of your life to savour. Used in a better way, it becomes the energy for art. Used in the best way it becomes the energy that opens to grace.

Einstein was once quoted as saying, ‘ I want to think God’s thoughts. The rest are just details’. If you allowed yourself to think God’s thoughts, you would see how ludicrous it is that we think we are a body and not a spirit. We would recognize that God’s thoughts for us are all about happiness. So if God wanted only what love brings to us, it must be our thoughts that bring us pain. There is a lesson in A Course in Miracles that states, ‘It is only my thoughts that hurt me.’ Having access to the subconscious and unconscious mind, I have found this to be true, which is why we can change whatever is hurting us, especially with the help of grace. We were created as love. Love created us as love. The rest we made up and became frightened of. We could choose love this month and melt away the fear.

So who is Charles Lee Spezzano that he can say "God’s thoughts for us are all about happiness"? He's a self-appointed "High Priest," that's who! He knows more about God than you do! Isn't that great? And if you pay obscene amounts of cash, he'll share that special knowledge with you! Wow! What a deal! 

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It is with this in mind that I ask you to help the US with your prayers, with your forgiveness, your love and gratitude, your manifesting and blessings, your faith and truth, your letting go of grievance, and finally your invoking Divine Presence to receive grace and miracles for the US. Everything we give is given to ourselves.

As a quick aside, notice the use of "manifesting." Remember to always insert "magical thinking" as the REAL term here. It should read: "It is with this in mind that I ask you to help the US with your prayers, with your forgiveness, your love and gratitude, your magical thinking and blessings, your faith and truth, your letting go of grievance, and finally your invoking Divine Presence to receive grace and miracles for the US."

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289)

Back to the main point--

This is a rare example of Spezzano bringing up his nationality. Since the economic crisis was in fact global and Spezzano frequently invoked the "Oneness" mantra he had just recently picked up from his studies at Oneness University, it seems strange that he would focus on the United States.

But he probably saw what was coming and you don't have to be a psychic to figure it out. With disposable income becoming scarce, it was going to become harder to sucker people into paying $1000 an hour for a personal consultation with Charles Lee Spezzano, it was going to be harder to fool trainers into spending thousands of dollars for their annual "license fee," harder to scam vulnerable people into an endless series of pricey workshops and seminars, and it was going to be very difficult to recruit new cult members.

And that is exactly what happened. The shrinkage and slow death of SALPOV can be counted as one of the few benefits of the Bush Depression. Or as Charles himself might have put it, "If you see the rays of sunshine over the horizon, you will know the dawn is coming." I'm no High Priest, but I suspect God must have a sense of humor.

And speaking of High Priests, let us continue with the newsletter--

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There is also High Priest/High Priestess energy available this month. This is a very high calling, lifting people up to experience God and bringing Heaven closer to Earth. A High Priest/High Priestess is a great receiver and sharer of grace and miracles, seeing past the pain and illusion for what is truly possible.

Well, whaddya know? Just a few days ago on his blog, Spezzano's "card of the day" was "HIGH PRIEST (ARCHETYPE) is the card for today .It reflects someone who is a bridge between Heaven and earth; someone who works to heal the collective: someone who brings people up to God and brings God down to people so it doesn't seem too far... Have a very sweet day!!"

Someone named ... Charles Lee Spezzano! Ta-daaa! Here I come to save the daaaay, "Chuck" Spezzano is on his waaaay! For a price, that is. A very expensive price. Given the Catholic background and education of Charles, I'm sure he feels right at home thinking of himself in these "High Priest" terms. What is so very sad is that he has conned a small group of followers into believing this scam.

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Some people in the worst circumstances are using such distractions to hide their great calling of being a High Priest/High Priestess. Imagine yourself lifting up to the Heavens, letting grace and miracles pour through you as an expression of God’s love, into your life and into whomever is in need. In October we are all called to take advantage of this rare and beautiful opening that is unfolding. Let this be a month of graceful birth for you. Let it be a month you follow the guidance available. In quiet moments, your higher mind can speak to the archetypes of Wise Man/Wise Woman inside you, and your lives can flourish, even in downturns of life and economics. You can empower and inspire others by taking your place and helping them to take theirs.
Wishing you love and miracles,
Chuck Spezzano
Conil de la Frontera, Spain
October 2008

When it comes down to it, I suspect the only "unfolding" that matters here is the unfolding of wallets and chequebooks. In British Columbia the tide is turning on SALPOV. People are waking up to what it is. And there are hopeful signs that Germany might be the next place where people experience "enlightenment" about the truth of SALPOV.

It's all about the Euro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgVInTNoTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgVInTNoTY)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on September 03, 2014, 01:56:22 pm
From 2013: Prize offering from Frankfurter Ring, you lucky dogs! Participate and win! Don't let these prizes pass you by!

https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/photos/pb.134792432264.-2207520000.1408318148./10151796414092265/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/DrChuckSpezzano/photos/pb.134792432264.-2207520000.1408318148./10151796414092265/?type=1&theater)

What is there about this image that screams out "hustle!!!" ?

Another of Spezzano's events in Germany comes with a prize offer – this time one near Duesseldorf. The title is the same as for the Frankfort event.

https://de-de.facebook.com/PowerfulEvents

Sept 1, 2014

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Goooood news – it's prize draw time again!!! Everyone who feels like gaining a seat for the evening seminar or even the day's seminar in Ratingen with heart opener Chuck Spezzano, please sign up here quickly. We're keeping our fingers crossed for all of you! You may also pass on the message.[...]

The event is also advertised here:

http://allevents.in/ratingen/emotionale-reife-abendseminar-mit-chuck-spezzano/612204802187117

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Emotional maturity – the path to true partnership

[…]

The evening seminar consists of an interactive lecture followed by „questions & answers“. The seminars of Psychology of Vision® are process oriented and involve lecture units, individual and partner/group work, meditative as well as integrative transfer and exercises in constellations.

Seminar fee:
Advance booking: € 25
Box office: € 30
[...]

Registration and Info:
Powerful Events
Hediger & Früh GbR
Tel.: +49 (0)2102 / 30xxxx

And for the day's seminar:
http://allevents.in/ratingen/emotionale-reife-tagesseminar-mit-chuck-spezzano/615842458498689

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Seminar Fee:
up to Aug 3, 2014: € 115
€ 135
Price for couples: € 100
[...]

Registration and Info:
Powerful Events
Hediger & Früh GbR
Tel.: +49 (0)2102 / 30xxxxx

Much of the monies taken in will sort of stay in the family:
The events are organised by a company „Powerful Events Hediger & Früh GbR“.

http://www.powerful-events.de/vision
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Django Hediger & Bianca Früh
Gründer & Geschäftsführer von Powerful Events

This says Hediger and Früh are "founders and managers" of the company.

Hediger's profile at Xing:

https://www.xing.com/profile/Django_Hediger

http://www.sein.de/archiv/2010/august-2010/der-weg-zum-herzen-hingabe.html

In 2010, Hediger did an interview with Spezzano for Nuage magazine „Sein“.

Hediger has a profile with Momanda, a German language Nuage social network and advertising platform:
http://www.momanda.de/profil/DjangoHediger

Hediger and Früh are also named in the imprint of the German PoV Shop:

http://www.psychologyofvision-shop.de/impressum/
Hediger & Früh GbR
xxxx
40880 Ratingen
E-Mail xxxx psychologyofvision-shop.de
Tel +49 (0) 2102-30 xxxxx


Hediger is a longterm PoVer, as becomes apparent from this post:

http://www.chefkoch.de/forum/2,43,371244/In-12-Stunden-380Mails-von-newsletter-pov-int-com.html
This is a website offering a multitude of recipes which can be commented by regular users; one regular complained of having received several hundred spam mails from pov-int.com after opening an ad provided by this site. This was in January 2008. On July 1, 2008, there is a reply by Hediger:

01.07.2008 12:54
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… this is a dated thread but I have been made aware of it via google.
As I am the admin of pov-int.com I want to correct this: We don't send spam messages and only registered users will receive our info. […]
Best regards,
Django Hediger

Hediger also registerd a few websites for PoV:

http://www.domaintuno.com/d/about-psychology-of-vision.com

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About-psychology-of-vision.com is 6 months old . The website was registered by  () and has its servers in Germany . The site has a Pagerank of 0, which suggests that it is not so well connected on the internet.

Hediger is also the registrant of the famous „the truth about chuck and lency“ site launched in March 2014:
http://mawords.com/the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com

An in-depths analysis of the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency has been given here:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37731#msg37731
First post # 260

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 13, 2014, 08:24:50 pm
The Company They Keep

Lenora Kay Spezzano, Charles Lee Spezzano and even young Christopher Spezzano's reactive statements to criticism of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) for-profit corporation reveal an insecurity that they are not taken seriously as professionals. But remember, even though the word "Psychology" is used in a misleading way in their company name, neither of the Spezzanos are psychologists.

So they are not professionals. At least not as psychologists. Aside from an enthusiastic attendance at Oneness University ca. 2007, I see no evidence of either Spezzano engaging in academic continuing education in psychology for over 35 years. Far from being "cutting edge," they are dinosaurs who are trapped in a commercial dead zone of habitual thinking.

Between the two of them the Spezzanos practice what is best described as Junk Science. In the early 1980s, Charles Lee Spezzano tried his hand at being a psychic, but it quickly became apparent the "healing" game was more profitable--

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In 1980 Chuck travelled to Vancouver, Canada for his first lecture. He began doing psychic development workshops up the west coast but by 1982 seeing the need he switched to only conducting healing workshops.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm
 (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

But the practice of pseudoscience is cynically continued in SALPOV and merchandised as "science" (e.g. the constant references to quantum physics, which I doubt either Spezzano really understand. True scientists call the Spezzano interpretation "Quantum Flapdoodle") or "spirituality" (e.g. Lenora's "downloading" of Heavenly forces). They switch from one to the other, whichever is more convenient at the time depending on the customer base they are trying to cultivate. In addition, they also have branched out into business consulting, which is sort of a joke as SALPOV itself is basically dying according to all indicators.

Past life regression, Deeksha blessings, hearing messages from God, downloading Heaven's Grace (even with an elephant!), ersatz Tarot cards, mind control over the weather, magical thinking (i.e. "Manifesting"),Healing Metaphors, "Joining," Louise Hay, Oneness University, A Course in Miracles, empath powers, dire predictions of the future, law of attraction, "every emotion is a mistake," Amma and Bhagavan, Alex Tanous, all sickness boils down to guilt, over $1000 an hour for personal consultations, split minds, demons, the Devil, astral attacks, ego annihilation, "Enlightenment," Swiss bank accounts, affinity fraud (in Section K of the German POV Trainers Manual), "intrapsychic pollution," high priest and priestess, personality cult, a complicated triangle chart, expensive annual "license fees" for the trainers, a rigid hierarchy, etc., etc. These are hardly the influences and activities of serious professionals-- unless you are talking about professional grifters!

Lenora frequently mentions her "research." If she was a real professional in the field of psychology, we could expect to find her writings in academic and peer-reviewed journals. But, big surprise, academic peer-reviewed articles by Lenora Kay Spezzano are there none, at least that I can locate.

Instead, we find SALPOV lumped in with a multitude of other "New Age" business enterprises, which is where it belongs. It isn't the belief system that bothers me, in fact I will be the first to openly grant there are more things in Heaven and Earth, Dear Reader, than are dreamt of in our philosophy. What bothers me is the commercialisation of this belief system.

As long as there are wounded and desperately vulnerable people in the world, there will always be confidence artists like the Spezzanos to victimize and profit off of them. And leaving them to suffer the consequences with no follow up. This scenario is played out by thousands and thousands of frauds every day, too many for the media to focus on. Just look at how many of these charlatans are covered in NAFPS alone. So why, out of all these fakes, do I zero in on the Spezzanos? I have an answer even SALPOV cult followers should appreciate.

I'm on a mission from God.

And who is to say my voice from God is not as genuine as that heard by Helen Schucman who said she wrote ACIM as dictated by Jesus, which serves as the Spezzano's "greatest inspiration"?

Me and the Lord, we have an understanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZSqd5Y8nA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZSqd5Y8nA)

See, you don't know if ol' Sandy S. is pulling your leg or not, do you?

So, to demonstrate the "professionalism" in the field of psychology the Spezzanos claim, let us take a look at the company they keep. In listing these examples I am merely pointing out where SALPOV has found a receptive clientele in the New Age community and in no way am I suggesting the individuals below share the same "fraud" status the Spezzanos have earned on this forum. Unless proven otherwise, I start with the assumption they are sincere--

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The Paranormal and Shamanic Mind

For the most part, the model of the Psychology of Vision goes beyond the scope of present day therapy. Some of the key insights and experiences came to me in 1975 as I developed an intuitive method that I use as an alternative to hypnosis. This allowed me to explore subconscious areas all the way into the unconscious, which is the area of the paranormal and shamanic mind.

--Pam Carruthers, Soul Astrologer
http://www.healingstars.com/psychology-of-vision/ (http://www.healingstars.com/psychology-of-vision/)

In the following, notice the repeat of the fable that Charles Lee Spezzano is a "psychologist." As Lenora said in her infamous "Truth" screed: "Lies can be put on just one blog, and they get shared and re-shared by people looking for material for their own blogs, which then gets shared again and again and again, running up the number of 'hits' of viewers." So true, so true.

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Hi everyone! My name is Tina and I’m a psychic reader with seven years of experiences with Tarot and other tools of divination and fortune telling.

My purpose is to help people on different areas of their lives and I find out that my readings are very uplifting, honest, meaningful and the most importantly helpful on their paths.

I don't consider I have a unique gift from birth to help people, because I think that everybody has that gift in themselves. I like to help people discover that special gift in themselves! We Are all One, and only fears and limits separates us.

I found that out, through my life, when I was learning things about myself. Nature, plants and different tools have helped me to become who I am now and I am grateful that all experiences have given me the knowledge to help others.

I work with Vision Quest Tarot, Oracle Cards, Runes, Ancient Mayan Tz'ite Seeds and Healing Cards. I mostly use the Healing Cards from Ph.D. Chuck Spezzano. He is a psychologist with 30 years of experiences. These cards are really the most effective tool to discover hidden factors, which are preventing us to live our true life purpose and with this experiencing our innate potential of true love, success and joy.

It is only important to be in the state of Love, Happiness and Peace. In this state we can achieve everything we desire to.

http://www.psychic-junkie.com/minds-eye-psychic-readings.html
 (http://www.psychic-junkie.com/minds-eye-psychic-readings.html)

(AAMET = Association for the Advancement of Meridian Energy Techniques, EFT = Emotional Freedom Techniques)

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For many years, prior to becoming a mother, I was involved in personal development. Among my teachers were Deepak Chopra (meditation), Chuck Spezzano (Psychology of Vision) and Brandon Bays (The Journey). I spent time traveling and visited sacred centres in Peru and Egypt.

--Tamara Donn, AAMET-accredited EFT practitioner and childbirth educator
http://www.injoy-yoga.com/about/therapists
 (http://www.injoy-yoga.com/about/therapists)

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My Expert Service
Peace of mind is the key to mental and emotional health. To find it, we have to live according to our values and to release any suppressed love in our conscious or subconscious mind. I will coach you in a compassionate, competent and focussed way, spotting on any area of your life you wish. We may look together for a healthy attitude for yourself in your daily life and for a new view on yourself and your role in any of your relationships. Leonard Shaw's Love and Forgiveness Approach is the main frame for our work, but I may support you also using tools from neurolinguistic programming (NLP), from the 'Psychology of Vision' of Chuck Spezzano and from new developments in the Family Constellations Therapy of Bernd Hellinger. Where appropriate, to identify the places where work has to be done, I may use also my medial abilities, kinesiology and tarot. We may find further supportive elements in the Hawaiian HUNA System, in Dr. Yuen's Energy Medicine and by sending you tantric Reiki comming from Maria Magdalena. My email coaching is effective, as you have the space to reflect and to integrate new insights. Paying per minutes is very efficient, because I will usually give you in each mail only the insights useful for you in that moment. You may take your time to reflect on them and integrate them step by step. Often, I let you question yourself and what you wrote to me. Such questioning unveils not-conscious patterns limiting your choices in life. Making unconscious patterns conscious has often a freeing effect.

--Ligia Calina
https://www.liveperson.com/ligia/ (https://www.liveperson.com/ligia/)

Notice that in the following piece, Charles Lee Spezzano has graduated to being a clinical psychologist! (NES = Neutrienergetics)

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Because many life problems stem from relationship issues, Arielle trained with clinical psychologist, Dr. Chuck Spezzano to learn how to apply the transformative thinking of ‘A Course in Miracles’ to problematic issues. She works with individuals and couples using a blend of these principles, combined with NLP and John Gottman’s well researched approach.

Integrating her NLP know how with insights from non verbal and emotional intelligence, makes her a much sought after guide for executives desiring better leadership skills. Arielle mentors them on improving their delivery style, resolving interpersonal issues, making strategic career moves, and helping to design and deliver presentations.

Arielle’s broad base of experience makes for a truly holistic and deep approach. She has full certification in: NLP master practitioner and trainer (USA), hypnotherapy & time line re-imprinting, coaching (Erickson College), NVI (non verbal intelligence), EI (emotional intelligence), cranial/sacral therapy, allergy therapy, naturopathy, kinesiology, and she is a fully qualified NES practitioner.

--Arielle Essex
http://www.arielleessex.com/?page_id=333 (http://www.arielleessex.com/?page_id=333)

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Whilst pursuing a career in the Stockbroking Industry and the Australian manufacturing sector during the 1980’s and 1990’s, Andrew undertook a series of part time studies to pursue his passion–understanding human nature and personality and exploring the diversity of people’s life experiences.

During the period 1986 -1993 Andrew undertook studies in holistic based therapies and operated his business from a private practice in Richmond.  He trained in energy body work therapy such as Energy Meditation (Chakras and Meridian Points), Ki Force (similar to Reiki), Shiatsu and psychological based Jungian Astrology.

In 1994, Andrew commenced studies at The NSW College of Hypnotic Sciences and graduated with a Diploma of Clinical Hypnotherapy in 1995, and undertook post graduate studies in advanced hypnotherapy techniques, Neuro-linguistic Programming (NLP), Time Line Therapy and Ericksonian techniques thereafter.

In 1998-2002 after relocating to the UK, he undertook extensive training in Family Dynamics, Leadership and Effecting Change Therapies under Master Trainers Dr Chuck Spezzano & Jeff Allen in the UK, Canada, Switzerland and Germany.

2002-2003 was a period of living in Germany to learn German and to experience living in a non-English speaking country. Andrew expanded his own awareness and worked with ex-pats in Mönchengladbach in a clinic, furthering his studies including a 6 month commute to Gosport, Portsmouth, Hampshire studying Emotional Freedom Technique and EmoTrance.

Returning to Australia at the end of 2003 Andrew consolidated his experience and knowledge by undertaking further studies in Metaphysics gaining a Bachelor’s degree and a Master’s Degree in 2007, with exploration into the areas of the subconscious mind, dreams, hypnotic language and the power of symbols in communication.

In 2009 further studies include Certificate in Power Hypnosis conducted by Dr Rick Collingwood and a Diploma in Ego State Therapy conducted by Dr Gordon Emmerson.

Andrew has studied and completed certification as a Past Life Regression Therapist and is a certified practitioner of Life Between Lives Spiritual Integration training by The Newton Institute.

Andrew is in the final stages of completing a Master’s Degree in Counselling from Monash University. He is also completing his PhD in Metaphysics.  His doctoral dissertation explores the use of Metaphors and Archetypes as therapeutic interventions.

--Andrew Reay
http://universityofmetaphysics.com/andrew-reay-m-msc/ (http://universityofmetaphysics.com/andrew-reay-m-msc/)

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Her education as Coach and Trainer

Heidi Stein is a certified Breathwork Therapist and a teaching therapist at the Institut für ganzheitliche integrative Atemtherapie Holland/Kleve. Among her many other qualifications are Skydancing Tantra, Hypnotherapy, Mental Training, NLP-Practice and Steps to Leadership (Psychology of Vision, Chuck Spezzano).

http://unternehmenmensch.net/en/heidi-stein (http://unternehmenmensch.net/en/heidi-stein)

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Laura’s work has evolved out of her own journey and life experience as much as through her broad base of professional qualifications.

She has trained with many Masters who have inspired her with their leading-edge methodologies all of which have in common the intention to restore Oneness to body, soul, spirit and all relationships.  Her therapeutic ‘tool box’ includes:

    Holistic Image Consultant and Coach
    Aura-Soma Colour Therapist
    Face-Soul Reading Teacher
    NLP Compassionate Coaching Practitioner
    Graduate of Dr. Chuck Spezzano’s Psychology of Vision 100 Day Training with whom she has completed 200 days of training since 1998
    Reiki & Seichem Master
    Oneness Facilitator/ Deeksha Blessing Giver
    EFT Emotional Freedom Technique
    NPA Non-Personal Awareness
    Hyperton-X: Mind-Body Integration

Her journey has taken her all over the world, including India several times. She has received Satsang with many Enlightened Masters, her favourites being Srinivas Arka, Swami Vishwananda, Mooji, Amma, Mother Meera and Sai Baba. She has attended Goddess, Wise Woman, Heart Circle and Shamanic Retreats, Tantra and Biodanza dance trainings and many events within the Course in Miracles community.

After many years ‘seeking’ her searching has been replaced by a readiness to share her wisdom, inspiration and love with the world. Clients are experiencing spiritual awakenings and deep, sustained shifts in consciousness following visits with Laura ~ many reporting finding an inner peace and joy they had always yearned for.

--Laura Berridge, Goddess Coaching
http://www.goddesscoach.co.uk/about/?doing_wp_cron=1410621637.7590160369873046875000  (http://www.goddesscoach.co.uk/about/?doing_wp_cron=1410621637.7590160369873046875000)

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Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator
Psychology of Vision Trainer, Skidegate Band Council CAO

1972 – Present (42 years)
Leadership and Business
Skidegate Band Council

1972 – Present (42 years)

--Babs Stevens
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30 (http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30)

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In 1982 the Wizard underwent a 13 year period of psycho-analysis three times a week, followed by 15 years participation in both individual and group work with various Bioenergetics, Biosynthesis, Humanistic, Gestalt, Primal and Re-Birthing practitioners.

In 1988 he completed a full-time 3 year degree in Theology and Philosophy at London University (Heythrop College) and in 1990 underwent a 4 year training in Neo-Reichian bodywork within an object-relations framework.

Other influences include a 2 year training in Existential and Group psychotherapy at Regents College, London and a Masters Degree in The Psychology of Psychotherapy and Counselling from Antioch University.

He has also experienced the Hoffman Process and four levels of training/process with the Oneness University in India: Doors to Oneness – Level 1, Oneness Awakening – Level 2, Oneness Training Programme and the Advanced Training Programme.

The Wizard has participated in various courses at the Penninghame Foundation, of which he is now Chairman, including the Oneness Intensive, the Primal Intensive and the Health Process. He continues to attend at least 2 deep processes each year and has worked with Chuck Spezzano, Arjuna Ardagh, Armand, Kari Paues, Anthony Robbins and many other great teachers.

--The Modern Day Wizard
http://www.themoderndaywizard.com/training/ (http://www.themoderndaywizard.com/training/)

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My name is Gabriele. Anjeli is my spiritual name. It means "a gift, a gift." I would like to share my (spiritual) gifts with you.

I am part-time working as a life coach since 2006.

My advice is thematically and is based on specific questions and your voice.

My offers for you:

- Clairvoyant Tarot reader with different card decks and oracles.

(By Chuck Spezzano, Doreen Virtue, Jeanne Ruland, etc.)

- Angel contacts (channeled messages)

- Awareness Coaching / recognizing one's own perception / Partnership

Relations (new) make / soul mate u. Dual Soul Link

- Chakra harmonization

- Shamanic clairvoyance (including spirit guides, power animals, Beyond Contacts)

- Animal Communication on a soul level / connection between man and animal.

- Energy work with crystals and crystal skulls

- Work with dolphins u Walenergie.

- Quantum energy work

- Heart Soul Travel

These offers are tools to open you access to the answers to your questions and to identify solutions. Through a different perspective you get the opportunity for change to see their own solutions or to find.

With the right questions we will find the key to the messages of your soul, hiding behind your problems. It is my heart's desire to assist you in recognizing and using your own potential.

I'm usually in the afternoon and evening to reach, Friday to Sunday mornings also. Please also use the callback function.

If you even just can not make calls, but urgently need a current pulse, then use Just my e-mail offers. Until September 30, 2014 You get it with 10% discount.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.esophia.de/berater/Anjeli-Gabriele.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttps://www.esophia.de/berater/Anjeli-Gabriele.html%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DyTC%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.esophia.de/berater/Anjeli-Gabriele.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttps://www.esophia.de/berater/Anjeli-Gabriele.html%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DyTC%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb)

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2004 - 2006 I completed the training in the School of Spiritual Healing by Horst Krohne, where he made some fundamental and widening experiences that I give with a joyful heart to my patients.
2006 Spiritual Spine - Dragica Alsalk
2006 - 2008 Graduate repatriation therapist and teacher -. Defiance Hardo
2007 Clearing manager training - Zinaida Adomat
2008 Consecration Deeksha - Oneness University
2009 Channeling Education - Dorothee Peters contested
2006 - 2013 shadowed Systemic Constellations Hellinger - Rosemarie Brieger
2010 - 2011 POV (Psychology of Vision) Leadership - by Chuck Spezzano
2012 - 2014 Beyond Contacts and trance mediumship training by the English school of mediumship - Insight - Stefanie Keise

--Manuela Maler
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.manuela-maler.de/joining/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.manuela-maler.de/joining/%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DvVC%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.manuela-maler.de/joining/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.manuela-maler.de/joining/%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DvVC%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb)

The examples are endless. Although SALPOV can be solidly classified as a New Age business venture, it is interesting that we have documented elsewhere on this forum several cases of other healers in the New Age community who have a low opinion of the Spezzano's methods.

Using public funds to sponsor SALPOV for any sort of "healing" or "therapy" activity should be considered a ripoff and worthy of government investigation.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee! 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 15, 2014, 12:00:34 pm
Two data bits for the day:

First the US Library of Congress "see also" subjects one encounters after looking up the subject "Occultism"--

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Occultism


1
-- See Also New Age movement.
Here are entered works on a group of post-1970 cults and organizations influenced by Eastern and Native American religions, occult beliefs and practices, mysticism, etc. and employing techniques, such as meditation, to enhance consciousness and develop human potential.

2
-- See Also Parapsychology.
--subdivision Psychic aspects under individual animals and groups of animals and individual plants and groups of plants, e.g. Cattle--Psychic aspects; Fishes--Psychic aspects; Corn--Psychic aspects.

3
-- See Also the narrower term Spiritualism.
--subdivision Spiritualistic interpretations under names of individual persons, e.g. Jesus Christ--Spiritualistic interpretations; Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616--Spiritualistic interpretations.

4
-- See Also the narrower term Witchcraft.

Second, here is the SALPOV "card for the day" from a few days ago.

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DEMON SAVING
DEMON SAVING is the card for today. Since the year 2000 demons have been able to be saved, redeemed and returned to the light where before they just preyed on humanity. Yet, it was always their secret hope that they could be redeemed. When you have notice of any such activity in your life then call in spiritual help of the highest sort and have them returned to the light. It could be that easy…In the last years I have seen more evidence of humans holding onto demons then the other way around.This, of course, holds everyone back and motivation is needed to let go of perceived gains. Have a good day and let the light free you. You could have no fear if you remembered WHO walked with you…Have a miraculous day!!

Posted 2 days ago by Chuck Spezzano

It just keeps getting weirder.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on September 15, 2014, 07:24:39 pm
I initially assumed that when Chuck wrote of "demons", he was using that word as a metaphor. But this "Demon Saving" card o' the day  doesn't sound metaphorical at all. Sounds like his followers do practices they believe help return demons to the light. So, aren't these then religious practices? If so, why do followers have to pay $ to learn them, and then continue up the ladder of expensive seminars?

A follower's love poem to the Spezzanos includes:

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I look in your eyes and feel God’s beauty
Way beyond and transcending any role, rule or duty
Feeding us to fullness on every level
Helping us to eradicate every demon and devil

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Seminars/MasteryFeedback.htm)

I am curious about what the actual practice is. We've not so far found any video of an actual seminar. I wonder if this demon redemption is done through chanting, prayers, what are people being taught to do in exchange for their $?

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on September 15, 2014, 10:31:23 pm
In regard to the big, bad demons, according to Chuckie:

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Yet, it was always their secret hope that they could be redeemed.

Exactly how does he know that?  ??? ???  So, he is in cahoots with the demons now and can speak for them?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on September 15, 2014, 11:00:49 pm
In regard to the big, bad demons, according to Chuckie:

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Yet, it was always their secret hope that they could be redeemed.

Exactly how does he know that?  ??? ???  So, he is in cahoots with the demons now and can speak for them?

Excellent point! :)

What a way to make a living.

As far as I can tell, the way Chuck talks about demons is similar to the "Spirit Release method" http://www.soulrescuesite.com/onlinestore/index.htm (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/onlinestore/index.htm) Since Chuck and Lency draw upon so many influences, beliefs, cultures, sci fi/fantasy, and religions - all with their own Nuage spin - I like to try to find out their possible sources. Since they usually don't give credit to their sources. And because they claim that they are original genius experts on all things spiritual.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 18, 2014, 03:53:01 am
Found this online article by Lenora Kay Spezzano in Edges Magazine, Issue 44 (May 2006). This is a fascinating document.

Please note she is described as a "psychologist," which she and Charles are most definitely not. I am sure Lenora will tell us this attribution is someone else's fault. It always is.

I am interested in what the "Vari Modeling Moral Life for Children by Lency Spezzano" is all about.

Rather than insert my usual comments, I will simply emphasize the passages I find amusing/ironic/tragic in bold type.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~edges/online/issue44/p9.htm (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~edges/online/issue44/p9.htm) 

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Children absorb their Moral Learning from Parents

Lency Spezzano -- is an author and psychologist

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I am not a moralist, and I am not generally interested in the morality of others (except in how my judgements on others are projections of my judgements on myself). Yet, I am a parent, and parents are concerned about the moral development and behaviour of their children. What parent's heart doesn't break for the parents of the child on the news who has taken a life, or broken other laws? Even if we have become jaded about the world, we still do not want our own children to lie to us, or steal from us.

Children absorb most of their moral learning from their parents' actions. The way they are treated by their parents and the way they see their parents treat others, will be the natural basis for how they operate in the world. For example, we all want to raise children that we can trust to speak truthfully to us, even when they are teenagers. The only way that we have the right to expect honesty from our kids is to speak the truth to them and to those around us at all times. It is possible to live our lives without lying. We don't need to tell a lie to get off the phone quickly, or to excuse an absence, or explain why we are late. The simple truth, and possibly an apology, serves the best.

I was 25 years old before I realized that honesty truly is the best policy. I remember jogging around the park off Diamond Head that beautiful afternoon here in paradise. But, rather than drinking in the beauty of the land and sky and sea, or relating with the rainbow of Hawaii's people that I encountered, my mind was fraught with stress. I spent the whole time thinking of my conflicts, and recalling the Vari Modeling Moral Life for Children by Lency Spezzano; deceptions and half truths I had put out to the people in my world to gain some kind of advantage. As I ran I began to recognize how much time and energy I put into maintaining those deceptions, just to keep track of what I had said to whom. I also recognized that I carried a lot of fear around with me. Would things I had said about certain people to others get back to them? Would people compare statements I had made to them? I realized that the fear and stress from my lies and gossip were overwhelming, even though I was basically a nice and well-intentioned person. I also realized that none of the deceptions or secret attacks was necessary. They didn't really help me; they hurt me a lot. They were the source of much of my suffering.

For the first time, I recognized that all of the things I was doing to protect myself and elevate myself actually made me vulnerable. The best thing I could do for myself would be to give up the deceptions and secrets. I could instead always speak the truth, and not say anything about anyone that I would not be willing to say to his or her face (and in fact, that would be far better than saying it to someone else). That way I would never have to remember what I said to anyone, and I could relax.

That decision started a new chapter in my life, one of greater ease and safety. I believe that our children have benefited from that lesson through natural absorption. When things are uncomfortable for them, their minds do not automatically seek a way to cheat their way out of it. If they have been sneaky or deceptive, it weighs heavily on their mind until they confess without prompting. Usually these confessions are pretty cute, and become part of the family lore. Like the time they stole a carton of ice cream out of our freezer and ate the whole thing outside behind the trees, the times they flushed their dinner down the toilet when I wasn't looking, etc. They recognize that they are much more comfortable inside themselves when they are honest, and they love feeling that they have a clean slate. All of this honesty occurs naturally, without lecturing about honesty, or discussing morality at all. It happens because it is the only way of being they know. On those occasions when I have discovered one of our kids in a lie, I felt the important thing was not to go into reaction. I remained connected with them, and asked them what was going on with them that they felt they needed to lie. Punishment would not have taught them to be honest; it would have taught them to try harder not to get caught the next time. Causing our kids to feel guilty about being deceptive would only have cemented in the deceptive behaviour. Real communication and joining was what they were calling for. Then if it seemed that it would be beneficial for them to have a natural consequence for their behaviour that could occur without that consequence being seen as a punishment dealt out to them on a whim. They even helped us determine what that natural consequence should logically be.

When we did occasionally use the natural consequences formula it was when they were younger. I can't remember the last time either of our kids needed us to assign any kind of consequence for their behaviour it's been years. Life deals those out fairly automatically the older we get. We have never punished them, just as it would not be true for us to punish others we love when they make mistakes.

I did ground Chris once, but I realized a couple of days into it that he hadn't disobeyed me; we had had a genuine misunderstanding that came from miscommunication. Once I was able to recognize that, we had a natural meeting of the minds and the intimate understanding that springs from it. I dropped the grounding consequence, and never regretted it My usual method for dealing with suspected deceptions when the kids were younger and testing limits was very simple. I would say, ‘Look me in the eye and tell me that again with a straight face.’ Then I would give them my most discerning look, while smiling. If they were fibbing or exaggerating, their attempt to stare me down would end in a fit of giggles. We would all have a laugh instead of a conflict, and they learned that it was useless to try to fool me. Their own subconscious mind revealed the truth. It got so that all I had to do was give them the look if they said something suspicious, and they would crack up, laughing at themselves.

Our kids don't generally do or say anything to anyone else with the intention of causing pain. When they are attacked, they refrain from attacking back. They do not seek revenge. They speak kindly to us without sarcasm or rancour. Children can be very cruel, but there is no reason they have to be. Cruelty is a learned behaviour, and our children learn primarily from us. They treat others the way we have treated them. High personal morals are their own reward. I believe it is more fun to have the good feeling of knowing that you have not cheated on your income taxes, than it would be to have the extra money from the cheating. It is more fun to have the intimate thrill of being completely known by your partner than it is to have secrets. A clear conscience is a wonderful thing. The feeling of integrity allows you to rest inside yourself, and your kids will see the benefits of that inner freedom. One of the earliest guidelines from the Psychology of Vision, which I learned from Chuck when I first met him, explains that nothing can be done to us that we are not already in some way doing. Our children's behaviour toward us will reflect our behaviour toward them, and our behaviour toward ourselves.

Our children are the greatest reflection we have of our minds. Their issues are our issues and their behaviours are our behaviours even if we are doing our best to hide them from the world. The ways in which we are out of integrity will show up in some form in our children. For example, if Chuck or I had secret sexual liaisons, it would not be surprising for our kids to get into trouble about deceptive sexual behaviour. If we were dishonest in our financial dealings, our children might develop a shoplifting problem. Addictions in us might well be reflected in addictions in them, etc. No amount of punishment will teach our kids not to reflect our minds. When our kids get in trouble, it shows where we are in trouble. The good news is that since that is the case, when we can identify that issue inside of ourselves and heal it, our children no longer need to reflect the issue to us. We are all healed together. This can be the very greatest motivation for all of us parents; we can clean up our acts before our children begin to act out the deeper layers of our minds. Our children don't have to follow our footsteps through the mistakes we have made.

Psychology of Vision Online webmaster@psychologyofvision.com
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 20, 2014, 11:31:50 pm
Hey Canada! Charles Lee Spezzano is coming back on another tour to sell his latest book and recruit more members for the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) cult. Better start saving lots of the coins of the realm so you can take advantage of this opportunity to attend a seminar by a huckster from the States who has a Ph.D. not accredited by the APA and claims he knows what is going in the minds of God and demons! And he can perform past life regressions! His wife is an empath who can directly channel Heaven's grace!

Plus he attended Oneness University and praised Amma and Bhagavan as part of his "greatest inspirations," hence the blather about "Oneness."

The man who loves to tell aggressive dirty jokes in his presentations, and according to my sources had a reputation for throwing tantrums, is going to talk about "emotional maturity."

Charles did indeed start his road show in 1980, in Vancouver in fact, but as a psychic, not as a healer.

Anyway, catch his cult-recruiting effort here. I put the parts the Spezzanos care the most about in bold font--

http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=70 (http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=70)

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"Language of the Heart - The Path of Emotional Maturity” with Chuck Spezanno 3 Day in Vancouver

NOVEMBER, 8, 9 10, 2014

“The path of emotional maturity is actually a path to Oneness. Emotional maturity will give us our heart back and with our heart we will know our purpose, lead a balanced life in which we can enjoy our successes, and really know what LOVE means. Our happiness is in our hands and we can stop being afraid of our greatness. Chuck Spezzano – The Language of the Heart

In this workshop, “Language of the Heart -  The Path of Emotional Maturity”, we will experience the principles of emotional maturity, a crucial factor in achieving happiness and success in our lives. This is the next step in our personal evolution and will lead us to truly know and LOVE ourselves and others. This workshop will be a continuation of the June “Restoration of Love” Apprenticeship that brought a deeper understanding of the importance and value of emotional maturity as a link to our higher mind and a more loving connection in all our relationships.         

Chuck provides easy and innovative techniques that can be used after the workshop. His compassion, humor, and incredible intuitive abilities create a supportive environment that can empower you to make the choice for emotional maturity.

Chuck Spezzano. PhD is a world-renowned seminar leader,author, lecturer and highly intuitive visionary leader. He holds a Doctorate in Psychology and has been an international workshop facilitator since 1980. Chuck and his wife Lency developed the visionary healing model - The Psychology of Vision. It is a marriage of psychology and spirituality that draws inspiration from “A Course in Miracles”. This model is being taught worldwide and has assisted thousands of people to lead happier, more empowered and fulfilled lives.   www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com

REGISTER BY OCTOBER 10TH  - $420 + tax ($200 deposit required)

REGISTER - CLICK HERE

ALSO RECEIVE a copy of Chuck’s new book “The Language Of the Heart – The Path of Emotional Maturity” (a $20 value). This will be distributed at the workshop.

After October 10 - $460 (+ tax)

At the Door - $495 (tax extra)

Call for couple, student (full-time), senior (65 and over) and group rate (6 or more).

First Nations - $360 (+ tax) by October 10 * After October 10 - $380 (+ tax)

Workshop Hours – 10 am – 7 pm * Workshop ending times are approximate.

 Location:  Executive Hotel, 4201 Lougheed Hwy. Burnaby, BC  www.executivehotels.net/burnaby

REGISTER - CLICK HERE

Or for more information and phone in registration Contact Susan How Email susan@povcanada.com  or * Myrna Taylor Email taylor.myrna@gmail.com Call 604-669-7400

For Hotel information contact Jenny Spencer 604-307-7162 jenny@jennyspencer.com

Address:
4201 Lougheed Hwy
Burnaby, BC
Canada
Map and Directions

Hey, I thought First Nations was supposed to be an altruistic deal. The nearly 400 clams for this nonsense is hardly free.

Maybe they started out with noble intentions, but if so, then Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano have become Boomer sellouts. In The Big Chill, these two would've been cast as comical, superficial hustlers, and rightfully so. If you are drawn to this event my advice is to save your money and seek out help from true licensed professionals who will still be responsible enough to provide follow-up. Paying such high fees for this SALPOV seminar is simply flushing your hard-earned cash down the toilet, as well as placing yourself in danger of being sucked into a very costly personality cult. Do yourself a favor and avoid this toxic SALPOV crap.

Before considering signing up for any SALPOV event involving so many Canadian dollars, please watch these presentations ahead of time. There's a little bit of SALPOV in each one of these--

http://boingboing.net/2013/10/18/new-miracle-cure-for-basically.html (http://boingboing.net/2013/10/18/new-miracle-cure-for-basically.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVl_9M42Gto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVl_9M42Gto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf3BlmsTA8Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf3BlmsTA8Q)

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on September 21, 2014, 02:19:47 pm

Sandy S mentioned PoV courses on „The Restoration of Love“ in his above post.

On Sep 3, 2014, a regional newspaper covered the case of the managing director of a company running several kindergardens who had embezzled some € 43,000 in about 67 individual cases occuring between Jan 2007 and the end of 2008. The director spent the money e.g. on Nuage courses, among them a two-years' course at € 13,000, with seminars titled „Restoration of Love“ and „Healing the Inner Child“ taking place in Malaga/Spain and Honolulu/Hawaii. The director defended herself claiming the seminars served personal development and of having taken decisions for the good of the children.

PoV did in fact sell courses on „The Restoration of Love“ taking place in Malaga in 2007:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070807224522/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/Full_Event.asp?id=2424

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The Restoration of Love
Come to Spain for a profound experience that will change your life. Join participants from all over the World at this 10 Day Apprenticeship Training with Chuck and Lency Spezzano, co-creators of the Psychology of Vision model which has helped thousands of participants worldwide to unlock their personal potential and experience greater success.
Fuengirola (Malaga)
Spain
Start Date: 14/09/2007
Finish Date: 23/09/2007
Qualifying Days: 10
Price Information:
$2700
To which of course travel expense and costs for accomodation will have to be added.

The PoV practice of compulsory seminars in Hawaii at least once a year has already been mentioned in this thread. Quite incidentially, the Spezzanos' estate happens to be situated in a town in Honolulu county.
However, a course to „ unlock .. personal potential and experience greater success“ was booked „for the good of the children“? This is hard to believe.

And PoV is not the only pseudo-scientific method the director has been trained in. On the kindergarden company's website, she mentions to have done „PoV trainings“, to have done an „NLP Master Programme“ and a „training as an MET therapist“.
MET is a tapping massage or tapping acupuncture applied to the so-called meridians of the human body. This meridian system is said to belong to traditional Chinese medicine but when transfered to the West, it came without the meridian map which was reconstructed from memory. The persons offering the 'training' to become an MET therapist also happen to be stout anti-vaxxers – just what parents would love to see in the way of attitudes at a kindergarden they chose for their children [sarcasm off]. Several employees of her company have also been trained as „MET therapists“.

On the company's website, the director also claims to be a kindergarden teacher, a psychotherapist, a family and partnership therapist, a yoga teacher, a learning therapist, and further asserts having done academic studies in sociology, law, political history, economics, and psychology. No final degree mentioned, however.

Some of the 67 incidents were dropped as the director claimed that some were mistakes commited by her accountant. The director commentend: „The one reproach I have to accept is that I did not check the book keeping“. Apparently, amounts spent on expensive lingerie and traveling were paid from kindergarten accounts.

The director was sentenced to eleven months suspended and a fine of € 20,000, after she denied a deal with the Attorney who suggested twelve months suspended plus said fine. The director contended that she wouldn't be able to remain in her job if sentenced to twelve months, and she further „emphasises her work is qualified and of high value“.

What becomes apparent is that a) PoV followers are quite prepared to lay the blame for their wrongdoings on anybody else but themselves, and b) the court did not quite share her point of view that PoV courses were an important and invaluable asset only done for the best of the children.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 24, 2014, 12:20:41 pm
Hey, can't afford all those incredibly expensive seminars, annual license fees, card sets, books, or other SALPOV spiritual merchandise? Find yourself considering embezzling funds from your workplace or writing bogus grants justifying cult activity in order to afford the trip to Hawaii or local resorts for those intensive brainwashing sessions? Tired of those nagging doubts that maybe the whole SALPOV corporation is merely an American capitalistic enterprise designed to enrich a very few-- but you are too addicted to turn away? Has the "security" of SALPOV made you a slave to fear and drained your savings account?

Well have I found a deal for you! This online wonder is called The New Age Bullshit Generator. Simply hit the "Reionize Electrons" button at the top of the page and you'll get the same sort of wisdom, probably generated in very much the same way, that SALPOV cranks out. Except the NABG is totally free! Your savings account doesn't have to evaporate just to keep up with the demands of the SALPOV cult.

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/ (http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/)

Let's give it a sample whirl, shall we?

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Aspiration is the knowledge of learning, and of us.

We live, we reflect, we are reborn. Stardust is the driver of health.

How should you navigate this quantum quantum matrix?

You may be ruled by stagnation without realizing it. Do not let it disrupt the knowledge of your journey. You must take a stand against suffering. Dogma is born in the gap where transcendence has been excluded.

We can no longer afford to live with pain. Only a lifeform of the universe may ignite this unifying of aspiration. Without faith, one cannot vibrate.

Imagine an unveiling of what could be. This mission never ends. It is a sign of things to come.

    Although you may not realize it, you are ever-present.

We are at a crossroads of grace and pain. We are in the midst of an ancient unfolding of truth that will align us with the world itself. Reality has always been overflowing with beings whose hearts are enveloped in healing.

Our conversations with other entities have led to a redefining of supra-primordial consciousness. Humankind has nothing to lose. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the infinite via pulses.

And it is delivered complete with a serene photo of a mountainside! Much better than the oh-so-predictable and frequently recycled Spezzano "Card of the Day." Brilliant. I love it.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on September 24, 2014, 02:37:16 pm
OMG, Sandy S, that is so funny.

I keep trying to make sense of it the way I do when I read something new-age-y and then blame myself when I can't make sense of it!  Maybe I need to pay someone to help me make sense of it.  Yikes!!   :o :o
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 25, 2014, 04:26:06 am
The New Age Bullshit Generator vs. the Spezzano Bullshit Generator: Can You Tell the Difference?

Thank you for your comment, Autumn! I agree, they use language to dazzle the vulnerable and feed off of their insecurities.

Here's a fun quiz for all of you to test your Spezzano research skills. Compare the New Age Bullshit Generator--

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/ (http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/)

with the Spezzano Bullshit Generator, aka, The Card For Today--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/ (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/)

Step right up and see if you can spot the parody over the real fraud! Hint, the Spezzano Bullshit Generator includes more typos and more deep-seated Medieval Catholic fear and guilt references.

So which one in each set is from the Spezzano Bullshit Generator? Answers will follow--

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A:
Fear at unconscious levels is an attraction to something. It is a fear that we will lose control so it prevents relationships where subconsciously we are afraid of how we used to be of wanting to possess people. As we progress in interdependence we get frightened of being possessed by devils (The ancient ego) and finally we are afraid of losing our ego and being possessed by the Love of God. We die to self and are reborn in Self.

B:
You must take a stand against yearning. You may be ruled by illusion without realizing it. Do not let it eliminate the healing of your path. Without choice, one cannot live. We exist, we dream, we are reborn. Nothing is impossible. This life is nothing short of an unfolding harmonizing of dynamic interconnectedness.
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C:
Without potentiality, one cannot exist. You must take a stand against ego. You may be ruled by yearning without realizing it. Do not let it confront the growth of your journey.

D:
Hope again emerges and we feel faith to continue on in our journey. Heaven's lesson in regard to our situation begins to unfold and the dark ego lesson starts to fall away. This is an important time as we realize that we had been depressed and hand't quite realized it until we now come out the other side.
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E:
We must unify ourselves and synergize others. We are being called to explore the quantum matrix itself as an interface between transformation and non-locality. We must learn how to lead sensual lives in the face of yearning. Being, look within and fulfill yourself. Although you may not realize it, you are interstellar. How should you navigate this sacred infinite? The future will be a dynamic evolving of faith. It is time to take empathy to the next level. It is in redefining that we are recreated.

F:
Our Sweet burning desire is DE--SIRE --of the Father. Our YEARNING for people,places or things will either be satisfied or not but the call of Love to love is inexorable. Our YEARNING is the tractor-beam pull of ONENESS. We seek completion  through all the other things we seem to want in the world. Those will never be enough for us so we will continue on until we realize the ecstasy of Love.
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G:
The world is the illusion as purported by mystics and many of the cutting edge quantum physicists and we make it what it is.true MEANING comes from Heaven and leads us out of Plato's cave to the real world and the light.

H:
Consciousness consists of meridians of quantum energy. “Quantum” means an awakening of the intergalatic. Growth is the nature of divinity, and of us. Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is rejuvenation.


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I:
Humankind has nothing to lose. Our conversations with other warriors have led to a deepening of ultra-sensual consciousness. We are at a crossroads of spacetime and illusion.

J:
This archetype helps us know that we can deal with big issues easily as the WARRIOR is within us waiting to be called when necessary to not let yourselves be abused.

Answers: A,D,F,G,J

So what amazes me about the Spezzano Bullshit Generator is that it is obviously created on a daily basis by some random method, yet on Spezzano's Facebook page where the blather is duplicated the comments by fawning cult followers is almost always the same. "Thank you Chuck!" "The timing is simply amazing!" etc., etc., with a liberal use of smiley faces, heart emoticons and exclamation symbols.

Clearly not a lot of critical thinking taking place here.

I hold these truths to be self-evident: That the American for-profit corporation Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) is a personality cult that has left a wake of victims and needs to be seriously investigated by media and government authorities in many parts of the world, particularly in British Columbia. That the President and Vice-President of this corporate entity have enormously enriched themselves at the cost of sincere and deluded "seekers." That SALPOV's targeting of FN in Canada is far from altruistic and I encourage the RCMP to follow the money and consider the possibility that we might have a case of affinity fraud. That SALPOV, in an attempt to rewrite their own history, has deliberately censored and deleted parts of their past and presented a false face to the public. That SALPOV requires their cult followers to debase themselves and submit to humiliating activities (such as Lenora Kay Spezzano's "downloading/joining" Youtubes) in order to attain favor and gain rank in a steep hierarchy. These videos also strongly suggest the use of hypnosis as a method of control and manipulation.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

It's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U)







Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 26, 2014, 01:05:37 pm
Almost as if on cue, The Spezzano Bullshit Generator produced this gem yesterday, confirming my point--

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THE COSMIC is the card for today. THE COSMIC refers to the spiritual level of consciousness that has not yet reached Oneness but is close to that point. It brings great, unmitigated joy and is full of love, miracles and truth. Today is a day to drop all judgment and enjoy the higher planes. Have an amazing day!!

Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

Thank you Chuck! The timing is simply amazing!  :D
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 02, 2014, 03:11:43 am
Hmm. At the same time I made critical remarks about the Spezzano Bullshit Generator spewing harmful nonsense into the world, the Generator suddenly stopped excreting Spezzano Bullshit-- for an unprecedented entire week!

Apparently they ran into some kind of technical difficulty, impacting their Card of the Day, Facebook, and Twitter, giving the world a brief respite from SALPOV toxic banalities. See attached items (must be signed in to view).

The SALPOV CEOs are not about the power of love. Rather, they are about the love of power, as revealed in their own personality cult-driven Trainer's Manual (also attached). The fact we have been spared from their noxious drivel for a whole 7 days is a dream come true.

Using SALPOV logic, there are no coincidences. This technical malfunction was the result of us troublemakers "manifesting" a better world, a world without the intrapsychic pollution of astral attacking Spezzanospeak posing as New Age healers when in fact they are simply a couple of small-time medicine show fakey performers taking advantage of vulnerable and wounded seekers. Obviously the Spezzano Bullshit Generator went awry because they must be guilty of something, if you apply the past statements of Charles Lee Spezzano to this case. Maybe the Heavenly powers did not have a sense of humour when it came to the irony of Charles Lee Spezzano promoting his book about "Emotional Maturity" or his upcoming faux-Tarot card set about idols.

I thought the Spezzano capitalist corporation was supposed to have flunkies and a webmaster taking care of these problems. When Lenora Kay Spezzano justified the obscene costs of SALPOV for "seminars," hypnotic "downloading/joining" sessions, trainer license fees, and Charles Lee Spezzano's over $1000 an hour personal consulting charge, she included the fact they employ an office staff as part of their costly overhead. Why didn't any these employees jump on this malfunction? Are they incompetent, or do they not even exist?

Here's the main point. Spezzano's bullshit is diversified. And a significant portion of his scam is posing as an expert on for-profit business psychology and organisation, especially in Europe. But is it normal when a for-profit business allows their own online connection to potential customers to be screwed up for a whole week? The USA private sector always touts its own efficiency. So, uhhh, what is the deal with Spezzano's failure here to deliver the goods?

Like so many other things in SALPOV, when it comes to business consulting, Charles Lee Spezzano is a "do as I say, not as I do" sort of character. From all indicators I can see, SALPOV is going down the toilet. The corporation appears to have really taken a severe nosedive in the last few years. It is acquiring the stench of death. 

The fact that several people instantly "liked" the spammy malfunction statement on Spezzano's Facebook and retweeted it on Twitter reveals something of a mindless obedience among the cult followers who remain in this pathetic and anemic esoteric group.

When it comes down to it, the philosophical foundation of SALPOV is all about the money-- for a very, very few:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U)




 

 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 06, 2014, 12:14:41 pm
Here is a fun parlour game mixing the SALPOV "3 card reading" fortune-telling diversion with a trio of bullshit generators. All three are created by simply stringing together tired random phrases and buzzwords that sound good to New Age clients, but which one is created by a machine and which two are created by a bunko artist?

These three are abridged from the New Age Bullshit Generator, and from Charles Lee Spezzano's daily and monthly bullshit generators (Card of the Day, and, Nightlight Newsletter). 

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/  (http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/)

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It is what leadership is all about--to EMPOWER others so that the gifts of all are shared and new gifts are developed. EMPOWERMENT makes people more whole and more confident. It enhances the giver as well as the given. Today the Tao is bringing the energy to strengthen us all as that is the truth of our existence and the illusion of weakness is of the ego. Let yourself be Empowered today it comes from the Love that gives you your true authority.

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Intuition is a constant. We exist, we reflect, we are reborn.
Yes, it is possible to destroy the things that can confront us, but not without healing on our side.

Without chi, one cannot heal. We can no longer afford to live with turbulence. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a summoning of our brains if we are going to survive.

We are at a crossroads of divinity and selfishness.

You will soon be recreated by a power deep within yourself — a power that is ethereal, dynamic. Prayer may be the solution to what’s holding you back from an untold current of guidance. As you exist, you will enter into infinite peace that transcends understanding.

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In the Golden Life you become a bridge between Heaven and earth and this month is meant to open the best that earth has to offer. Yet there is still a cloud cover between you and Heaven that will call for your strong intention to get through. This is not because Heaven is difficult to reach. It is within you. It is because there are so many distractions all around you this month. These distractions may occur even to the point where it is hard to reach goals and keep timetables on important projects. Of course, Heaven is the ultimate goal – to awaken and reach Oneness is what everyone in the final essay came for. So take time to penetrate the cloud and experience the joy. Don’t get too busy or caught up. You could really have it all this month.

Dregs and patterns of the collective unconscious continue to surface and these issues will sometimes infringe on you personally so that a personal problem has collective roots. Keep forgiving and doing other forms of healing until it clears.

Remember folks, the New Age Bullshit Generator is completely free while Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision will cost you thousands of dollars and hours if you get caught up in their cult. You deserve to have your own life, don't hand it over to this group.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 08, 2014, 08:58:13 pm
Looks like SALPOV Canada is apparently now minus their two youngest trainers, Douglas Anderson and Melissa Meyer. This leaves them with only a half dozen of the threadbare and worn out old guard. Quite a comedown from even five years ago when SALPOV Canada had a small army of minions feed the Spezzano bank account.

http://povcanada.com/category/trainers/ (http://povcanada.com/category/trainers/)

Anderson appears to be spearheading his own operation.

Getting out from paying those obscene trainer "license fees" of thousands of dollars annually to SALPOV is a good move. Stepping away from SALPOV, even if it is only a small step, is a positive thing. Good for them. I will watch their careers with interest.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on October 08, 2014, 10:19:59 pm
If Melissa Meyer has left POV, she needs to change her LinkedIn listing pronto:

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Coach/Facilitator
Meyer's Consulting

September 2004 – Present (10 years 2 months)

I am a Coach/Facilitator specializing in customized leadership trainings, business coaching and workshops. I facilitate Success from the Inside Out trainings, Psychology of Vision workshops, Youth trainings and a Parenting Program. I often co-facilitate with my husband and other Trainers as required.
Facilitator/Trainer
Psychology of Vision

January 2002 – Present (12 years 10 months) British Columbia, Canada

I coach & facilitate workshops, seminars and trainings based on the Psychology of Vision principles throughout BC both in business and community. I also mentor and train others to become Trainers and Facilitators based on the principles of Psychology of Vision.

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/melissa-meyer/a/453/95a
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 09, 2014, 04:54:36 am
Friends Helping Friends Don't Let Their Friends Join Psychology of Vision

Today I went on a tour of this thread and isolated a few questions we have raised in the last 13 months that remain unanswered. I invite a SALPOV spokesperson to address these mysteries, either by joining this forum and taking part in the discussion, or providing information on another venue. Also, these are leads for those of you in law enforcement, government regulatory agencies, the media, SALPOV survivors seeking justice, or potential SALPOV client/victims to follow--

Here are the questions:

Is Charles Lee Spezzano using the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute and the Hawaii Forgiveness Project as a clever disguise for promoting his own spiritual business?

Charles Lee Spezzano says in the 1970s he studied with "psychics and shamans" but he doesn't name any names. Who were they?

Charles Lee Spezzano served as an interim minister for the Windward Unity Church in Kailua in 1983-1984. Under what authority did he do so? Is he still ordained? Under what authority did he perform marriage ceremonies?

Why is the First Nations Fund not a registered charity?

Without permission, SALPOV trainers Betty Lou Hunt and Joanne Roberts swiped and twisted the words of spiritual teacher Rasha in late 2013 and early 2014 to make it appear she endorsed the party line. Rasha responded in no uncertain terms that she did NOT endorse SALPOV. Hunt and Roberts promised to take down all online references to Rasha, but as you can see they did not follow through with their promise. I think Rasha has a good case for a lawsuit. Why is this still up?

http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/ (http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/)

Why are there no SALPOV seminars offered in the USA outside of Hawaii?

Charles Lee Spezzano says he was in an initiation ceremony as a kahuna. Where? When? Under what authority?

Exactly who has access to the Swiss bank accounts held by the "International Association of Psychology of Vision"?

Why was Section K (First Nations Fund) only published in the German POV Trainer's Manual and not in the English version?

What role does Spezzano and Associates Ltd. have in the Psychology of Vision organization? Does SAL overrule the POV Steering Committee (which also has Charles and Lenora as members)? How many stockholders are there in SAL? Does SAL have other non-POV for-profit undertakings? Where does SAL stop and POV begin?

What are the Spezzanos going to do to make amends to Haida Gwaii and be accountable for the damage they have created?

Why were great pains taken to remove all online trace of the Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor co-authored by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Patrick (later Ticehurst) and Spezzano's Self-Health Youtube, including from the Internet Archive?

The College of Registered Nurses in British Columbia confirmed there is no one in their register under the name of "Janie Ticehurst." Is she licensed in BC or not?

In early 2014 former SALPOV trainer Kim Millar removed this passage from her Blogger profile: "I have had many wonderful teachers along the way, and continue to work with inspirational mentors. Deep and heartfelt gratitude goes to Chuck and Lency Spezzano for their ground-breaking Psychology of Vision model." Why was this removed?

Also in early 2014, why did Jeremy Marchant of Emotional Intelligence at Work, a UK business consulting enterprise, remove his detailed online section praising Charles Lee Spezzano entitled "Our Use of Psychology of Vision"?

How did Psychology of Vision land a spot under "Psychologists" in the Honolulu Yellow Pages? If potential clients contact them via that route are they informed that SALPOV does not employ one single psychologist?

Why was the English language version of the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual deleted from public viewing in May 2014?

When the SALPOV Oneness University purge began, the UK website marched in lockstep with the program and deleted the politically humiliating connection. So why did they not also delete this statement?-- "CHUCK SPEZZANO is one of the world’s leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy." Both Spezzanos will tell you Charles is not a psychologist, so why is this outright lie allowed to stand on a SALPOV website? It only proves how misleading and dishonest this organisation is willing to be in order to attract paying customers.

http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250
 (http://www.povevents.com/?doing_wp_cron=1385780754.2252640724182128906250)

What were the exact circumstances surrounding Charles Lee Spezzano's departure from Bob Trask and ARAS (Awareness-Respect-Affection-Support)?

Starting at the 7:00 mark, what is the spinning all about in Lenora's "Greater Intimacy with God" download on Youtube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

Lenora calls her husband the "King of the downloads." Why do we not see any Youtubes demonstrating this ability like we do with Lenora?

In his 2010 Youtube Can AIDS Be Healed, Charles Lee Spezzano says, "I've worked twice with AIDS where it went down to HIV and in one case completely disappeared, where the people became naturally healthy again. I've worked with Myasthenia gravis where it is supposedly incurable and that was cured." And, "Just recently worked with someone, I did the last session this morning where we had thirteen sessions together, and their AIDS went to HIV and completely disappeared." And, "I got started with this because a good friend of mine who was in her late sixties when I was a young man, she had this inoperable cancer. She had a tumour as big as a rugby ball. And in one healing exercise in a workshop it went from the size of a rugby to the size of a softball." Names and dates so we can submit these results and medically verify them for the Nobel Prize?

In the same Youtube he says, "Some of the research around cancer at six to eighteen months before the onset of cancer there's been a significant trauma with someone close to them." Citations? The American Cancer Society, in polite language, went on record saying Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst were full of bullshit in their cancer "research."

Neither Spezzano has commented on the late Steve Tipaldi's charge that Charles Lee Spezzano fabricated a statement detrimental to him while engaged in a domestic dispute with Spezzano friend Sarah Carpini. Tipaldo wrote: "I declare that there is a document in the record by Chuck Spezzano, claiming to have seen me as a patient in a professional capacity. I declare that at no time have I or had I been a patient of Mr. Spezzano." This was the same incident that resulted in the Spezzanos being fined in 2004 by Hawaii for pretending to be psychologists. What was the deal with that statement about Charles seeing Tipaldi when it appears he didn't? Steve, by the way, was driven to suicide in 2004.

In 2007 Lenora Kay Spezzano in a Youtube said, "Okay, so we're going to be having a joining session. In Psychology of Vision we're starting to call them 'Oneness Sessions' now." (at the 6:36 mark). So what happened? That term apparently has died as a way to describe the "Downloading/Joining" session today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo&noredirect=1  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo&noredirect=1)

Is Lenora a cynical grifter, or, is she simply crazy? It could be that Lenora Kay Spezzano will need exit counseling from herself with the help of true professionals.  Does she really believe all that drivel she is spouting?

How can Lenora say everything is an illusion? If you go stand out in the freeway and a car comes and hits you that's because you're not an illusion? Why is she telling her devotees this nonsense? Where is this going to take them?

In the DVD Chuck Spezzano The Psychology of Vision 2007, a lecture filmed in London, Charles Lee Spezzano declares, "About 92% of all the people in Canadian prisons are First Nations people." In 2007 the official figure was just over 17%. What is that all about?

How many times has Lenora been enlightened?

Charles Lee Spezzano has a Ph.D. in "Professional Psychology" from United States International University in San Diego in 1977. Apparently this odd degree has a misleading name and is not adequate by itself to qualify as a clinical psychologist. At the time he was awarded this sheepskin, the school was not accredited by the APA. The degree was not in "Counseling Psychology" or "Clinical Psychology" as so many sources declare, including from SALPOV websites and Spezzano's own LinkedIn profile. Why the consistent deception and/or misinformation? Did they really think no one would bother to look this up?

Since neither Spezzano is a psychologist, why do they call their corporation "Psychology of Vision"?

Lenora Kay Spezzano says her critics have "fabricated names of books we have supposedly written." News to me. Examples?

How does annihilating the ego and performing Deeksha blessings fit into Haida culture?

How has SALPOV been able to get away with this nonsense for so long without being held accountable by governments or the press to a greater degree?

Lenora Kay Spezzano entered public service with the best of intentions. But at some point something turned weird. Why?

What does Lenora think of the Charles Lee Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst "Healing Metaphor" on deafness?

In Charles Lee Spezzano's enthusiastic endorsement and appeal to materialism in his YouTube Mo Money, he markets the concept of manifesting for selfish gain at 2:50 and says: "I once decided I was going to get moved to Hawaii without having to pay for it and that's exactly what happened. Somebody moved me to Hawaii a couple years later, paid for all the expenses." Who was the "somebody" who paid for his expenses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOpoR3TmHSU)

How did Lenora first encounter Spezzano's work? What was the networking here?

In Lenora's "Truth" screed, the APTN Investigates piece exposing the SALPOV foibles and is probably the single most damaging media against her cult is never mentioned. Instead she goes after us little people, the peasants who think. Why is APTN ignored?

Why do any of the SALPOV trainers need to pay for an annual "license fee" to the tune of thousands of dollars each year? And why is that the higher they rise in the steep hierarchy, the higher their fee? If I were a SALPOV trainer, I would regard this as a very unfair and greedy practice.

"Transparency" is mentioned a lot by SALPOV. Will they ever release their financial statements to the public?

We understand the Spezzanos had a chance to meet cult competitor Erick Gonzalez in Canada. What exactly transpired at that meeting?

How did the Spezzanos first become enamored of Oneness University? How much of OU philosophy worked its way into SALPOV theology and terminology? What exactly caused Lenora to back away and precisely when did that happen? Why has this OU objection never appeared on an official online SALPOV source until the 2014 "Truth" screed by Lenora? Why did SALPOV have a total Stalin-like erasure of OU references from all their websites in early 2014? OU was once counted as one of SALPOV's "two greatest inspirations," so what is the deal there? (A big thanks to young Christopher Spezzano for tipping us off on this enormous piece of hypocrisy. We had no idea until young Christopher brought it up. Many thanks!)

When Charles Lee Spezzano had his self-professed career as a psychic on the West Coast, 1980-1982, exactly what was the merchandise he was peddling? 

Where are the Spezzano's fellow Americans and why do they not have a presence in SALPOV?

Does Charles Lee Spezzano employ hypnosis when he performs past life regressions?

What is http://www.help-the-first-nations.org/ (http://www.help-the-first-nations.org/)  ?

How were Charles Lee Spezzano and Alex Tanous connected? Spezzano says they were friends.

Have either of the Spezzanos had any sort of legitimate academic continuing education in the field of psychology since the 1970s? No, their love affair with Oneness University in 2007 cannot count, sorry.

Lenora Kay Spezzano makes frequent references to her "research." Where can we find the results of this work in professional peer-reviewed journals?

Charles Lee Spezzano not only knows what God wants from us, but also what "demons" really desire. How does he know that?

What is the "Vari Modeling Moral Life for Children by Lency Spezzano"?

OK, full disclosure. I know the answer to a few of these questions, but cannot reveal them without blowing the cover of my sources. If we are lucky enough to get a response, then I will know the lie from the truth and will respond accordingly. So if you answer, you better not Nixon us, man.  We want the truth.

I've had enough of watching scenes
Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzrNKN3rZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzrNKN3rZI)



   

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on October 11, 2014, 05:34:04 pm
Melissa Meyer has updated her Linkedin:


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Facilitator/Trainer
Psychology of Vision

January 2004 – September 2014 (10 years 9 months) British Columbia, Canada

Recently retired as a 10 year long coach & facilitator of workshops, seminars and trainings based on the Psychology of Vision principles.

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/melissa-meyer/a/453/95a (http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/melissa-meyer/a/453/95a)

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Current

        Coach/Facilitator at Meyer's Consulting

Past

        Facilitator/Trainer at Psychology of Vision
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on October 11, 2014, 05:43:56 pm
Pseudo court room psych dramas run by elite POV trainers:

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The process was quick, like riding a swift flowing river, but with loads of laughter and fun. The Chinese led the way with openness and courage and with a number of married couples in the group we explored many relationship dynamics. On day 7 of the workshop we had to vacate the seminar room for the day and so we made use of a courtroom next door. The court had been in use until recently and being a copy of the Old Bailey it was the real thing.

We set up the court with Judge, defence, prosecution, jury and the rest. A Chinese participant was put on trial for not protecting his family during the Cultural Revolution. It was a very powerful experience with everyone playing their part and the final verdict was innocence for all parties. Fifty years of guilt was let go of, because we were able to come from a much truer point of perception. Celebration was the order of the day as we all took the afternoon off.

http://visionworksforlife.com/2014/sally-forth/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/2014/sally-forth/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 12, 2014, 05:56:50 am
Thanks Piff. What a weird trip! Good catch.

In looking at the above link you provided I see the same text has this concluding passage:

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It was a glorious ending and everyone said a massive thank you to Julie as this was her last 10 day seminar as a Psychology of Vision Trainer. We all wish her every good thing in her life.

Love, Jeff

Julie Wookey is a Level 4 Master Trainer and a member of SALPOV's Steering Committee, near the pinnacle of the steep hierarchy in the for-profit corporation. Does this mean she is no longer a trainer, or, simply no longer participating in this type of training? In either case this is another significant indicator of changes within SALPOV when combined with the Meyer and Anderson departures.

What's going on? 

Tracking these SALPOV personnel changes sort of reminds me of trying to figure out what is behind the scenes these days with North Korea and Kim Jong Un. When you think about it, the DPRK and SALPOV share the same lack of transparency, belief in strict dogma, practice of personality cult worship, and wanton rewriting of their own history through censorship and online deletion.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 12, 2014, 02:51:00 pm
What is the International Foundation for Vision and Healing and what connection does it have to Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision?

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Public Foundation
B.N. : 891629206RR0001
Registration Date : 2003 April 19 ~ 11 Year(s)
(WELFARE) CHARITABLE CORPORATIONS
Address   32-2430 WILSON AVENUE
Postal Code , Town   V3C1Z6 , PORT COQUITLAM
Province , Country   British Columbia , Canada

Contact   Administrator
Telephone   604-669-7400
Fax   604-683-5676
E-mail   taylor.myrna@gmail.com
Website   Not Filed

Expenditure   $79
We provide more financial information for this charity, here.

Directors / Trustees and Like Officials   
First/Middle   Name   Position   Start   End
Charles    Campbell   Director/secretary   2003-03-25   - - -
Barbara    Stevens   Director/president   2003-03-25   - - -
Gregory    Hook   Director/treasurer   2003-03-25   - - -

http://donate2charities.ca/en/INTERNATIONAL.FOUNDATION.FOR.VISION...HEALING._.0_891629206RR0001
 (http://donate2charities.ca/en/INTERNATIONAL.FOUNDATION.FOR.VISION...HEALING._.0_891629206RR0001)

The telephone number has also been used for Psychology of Vision Promotions Inc. and for Phaedra skin care products, two for-profit concerns. Apparently the line belongs to Myrna Taylor. The FAX number will connect you with the Benefic Law Corporation, a Vancouver firm with a specialty in charity law. The Foundation also has a Haro St. address in Vancouver, depending on what source you find.

The Canadian government issued a certificate of continuance for the Foundation just last July.

It appears the International Foundation for Vision and Healing is not exactly setting the world on fire. Charles Campbell, Babs Stevens, and Myrna Taylor are all names long associated with SALPOV. The Foundation has no online presence or public mission statement.

So what's the deal here?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 17, 2014, 02:10:53 am
Ebola fear is starting to grip North America. I am sure Charles Lee Spezzano will not miss this opportunity to exploit this widespread anxiety.

In his Healing Metaphors (co-authored with Janie Ticehurst), Spezzano presented his take on victims of another pandemic--

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AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome)

This disease means our body has lost its ability to fight off infection. Infection by the HIV virus has caused serious damage to our immune system.

Normally our immune systems produce antibodies to fight off foreign agents but, because we have a poorly functioning immune system, ‘opportunistic infections’ take advantage and infect the body.

The development of this syndrome is the result of immense self-attack and self-judgment. We have judgment on society, which we feel is judging or attacking us in return. We feel that we have no defenses against attack.

At some level, we experience an inability to receive or give help. We are caught in a trap of indulgence, martyrdom or rebellion, rather than leadership.

The martyrdom takes the form of not receiving help and at the same time criticizing parents, family and society’s ability to give.

Yet, we are ignoring our vocation, refusing to heed the call to giving, to leadership, purpose, vision and not allowing ourselves to have all the help and comfort we crave.

Suggested Exercises:
Purpose
Forgiveness

Nice, isn't it? I believe we can expect the same sort dangerous nonsense when he brings up Ebola. It will be interesting to see how will play the blame-the-victim game with this new disease and try to use the outbreak as a way to keep the flock close to Daddy.

But, as Lenora Kay Spezzano said in her Truth screed regarding these smug little Spezzano/Ticehurst medical summaries, "we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims."

Oh really? 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 18, 2014, 02:43:04 pm
Our comrade, the very wise Moreinfo, pointed out the irony of the card from the daily Spezzano Bullshit Generator posted a couple days ago, HEALING THE PROSTITUTE SHADOW.

It must be nice to invent a way to rationalise away your own unethical and cultish business practices. But hey, Charles Lee Spezzano was raised in the Church of Confession and Purgatory. In Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) if you act greedy you can slap yourself on the wrist (self-forgiveness), say you will now be good boys and girls, and then dive right back in the sellout mode... until the next time you are caught. Louise Hay, Oneness University, A Course in Miracles, whatever New Age fad makes money-- all important Spezzano influences, yes. But it is really the Catholic Church that serves as the theological foundation for this cult. And Charles has set himself up as Pope in this maladjusted spur from the Church. Guilt and fear are the coins of the SALPOV realm. Without it, they have no power over their clients who pay through the nose for the honor of being members of a destructive group.

The Spezzanos talk of the power of love, but they are really about the love of power.  And I submit their English language Trainers Manual as evidence (attached, for those who are signed in).  This document was removed from public view by SALPOV after we drew attention to it. I wonder why? Yet they say they are all about transparency. Hmm.

As you can see below, the daily Spezzano Bullshit Generator also recycles their own blather. When you sign up for SALPOV, you are basically becoming part of a well worn and tired production line. It is not special or original, but has a proven track record of milking money from sincere people. The Spezzanos are snake oil circuit riders who modify their act only when it is deemed profitable to do so. Charles Lee Spezzano cranks out the same book or fake Tarot card set every year but just shuffles around the format and gives it a new title. Then he goes on tour to sell these products, using the theme of his latest merchandise as his workshop topic (right now it is "Emotional Maturity," next year it will probably be about "Idols," his new upcoming card set). These are book/card set selling tours, not workshops really. It's all about the money, not healing.

And this leads us back to the main topic-- prostituting your soul for the Big Bucks.

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HEALING THE PROSTITUTE SHADOW
HEALING THE PROSTITUTE SHADOW is the card of the day. This reflects the part of us where we believe we sold ourselves out for money or some other benefit. We judged ourselves for losing our integrity and have been attacking ourselves for it. Self-forgiveness dissolves the judgment and self-hatred involved so that we no longer judge others in this way but see such behavior as a call for help. Today let us forgive ourselves and recognize our innocence and that of others that we might be free and happy!!
Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

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HEALING THE PROSTITUTE
HEALING THE PROSTITUTE is the card for today. The prostitute represents all the untrue things that we do for money. It touches on our greed and our willingness to give up our integrity for it. Today we came to become aware and heal this within ourselves. Have a good day!
Posted 12th October 2012 by Chuck Spezzano

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HEALING THE SHADOW OF THE PROSTITUTE
HEALING THE SHADOW OF THE PROSTITUTE is the card for today. This where we have self-hatred for where we believe we have sold our integrity to gain something we value more. This occurs especially in the  sexual arena but can count for all areas of our lives. This is usually repressed and can account for scarcity and other forms of attack against us as well as self-attack. This is a good one to integrate back so we know our innocence and confidence once more.
Posted 26th December 2011 by Chuck Spezzano

Like Charles Lee Spezzano I believe in recycling too. The Spezzano books I have read went right into the recycling bin when I was finished with them.

Connected to this I found an academic thesis written by Wendy Jones. Her profile seems consistent with the vast majority percentage of those who initially fall into the SALPOV cult-- female, past 30, seeking a new direction.

It looks like Wendy was able to evolve out of the group and moved to a level of maturity that has eluded the Spezzanos, who are trapped in their own habitual thinking, love of materialism, and egotistical power as the center of a personality cult. This also gives us a clue as to why the Spezzanos are held in such low esteem by several other spiritual teachers/healers--

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I felt as if I'd put myself out to pasture at thirty-eight. I started looking into spirituality, into Buddhism, spiritualism, tarot cards and crystal balls, looking for something different and new. I went on a training course for an understanding of myself, run by a guy called Chuck Spezzano that cost an arm and a leg. It was fascinating. In the process my life shifted and it became my business so I became a promoter for Spezzano. My life shifted completely. At the beginning I went off track. I thought healing could be a business. I don't believe that anymore. I think healing is a healing and a business is a business. If you do the healing money comes in other ways. I feel as though I'm just the channel. If I see anyone in distress I'll automatically help without thinking, "I'm going to charge for this." It's like, "I'm very lucky that I can do that." I also know that, as I've done something, something else will come in return.

Jones, Wendy. 2013. Intimate Conversations about Money, or Everyone Money in Case they Don’t Die. The search for ways of seeing into the lives of others through the process of writing an interview book. Doctoral thesis, Goldsmiths, University of London. [Thesis] : Goldsmiths Research Online.

Wendy's altruism is quite a foil to Charles Lee Spezzano charging over $1000 an hour for a personal consultation. She didn't need to have the Spezzanos as her surrogate parents. Good for her.

When it comes to Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Prostitutes of Vision (SALPOV), it's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgVInTNoTY  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgVInTNoTY)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 21, 2014, 11:58:37 am
Let us decode the last two cards of the day--

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MIND POWER
MIND POWER is the card for today. Anything we want with our whole mind is ours. Anything we fully agree on with another occurs. Whatever happens is what we chose to happen for some purpose. Today is a good day to use our MIND POWER for what we really want and not some subconscious payoff. See what you want …Feel It …Sense it and send it off to the Universe for fulfillment…Have a fine day!!
Posted ... by Chuck Spezzano


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FINANCIAL FLOW
FINANCIAL FLOW is the card for today. It speaks of a greater opening of abundance especially in regard to money. So, be willing to be in the flow of money today. It sets the tone for months if not years to come. This is a result of an increase of joining with significant people around you and also an increase in your own self-worth. Have a most abundant and ebullient day!
Posted ... by Chuck Spezzano

In Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision semantics:

Mind Power = Manifesting = Magical Thinking.

Whole mind = Completely brainwashed, all critical thinking abilities totally erased.

Financial Flow and abundance = More money for you, the gullible, to sink into SALPOV's incredibly expensive scam shows.

"Joining" = The hammy nonsense on the following link--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)

The appeal here, such as it is, is to selfishness and your inner control freak. I don't see anything here about sacrifice or hard work. These "cards" are about getting, not giving. These are not about getting out of the way and letting God into the driver's seat. No. These are about getting out of the way and letting the Spezzanos into your pocketbook.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on October 21, 2014, 04:52:33 pm
POV continues to recruit First Nations people in Canada. The Spezzanos may try to quibble with my description here because they themselves may not have to do all that much actual in person recruiting, all they have to do is gain several FN followers, who then do the recruiting themselves.

This can be seen via Facebook. For instance a First Nations POV member recently posted about their own emotional challenges and then advocated the use of water fasting and POV attendance as remedies. Because they are a health worker, their opinion is given extra weight and authority.

So there is a contagion like effect. In metaphorical terms: Spezzanos poison people and then those poisoned feel they must continue the transmission.

Good in POV = constant self examination, crying, upset, beliefs that there are hidden toxins and dangers that must be revealed, compliance with group norms and lots of "passing on the good word"/recruitment.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 27, 2014, 03:26:30 am
Looks like SALPOV cult follower and trainer Babs Stevens in British Columbia, who according to her LinkedIn is a "Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator" and according to her Twitter profile is a "Psychology of Vision Trainer and Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver" is merchandising a new Oneness University/Psychology of Vision brainwashing session!  See attached documents (must be signed in to view)

I do not see the academic credentials that qualify her to be spouting this nonsense with any kind of professional authority. Like all other Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) trainers across the globe, Babs is merely a professionally unqualified vessel used by the Spezzanos to exploit the gullible and trusting in order to help pad the Spezzano bank account so these fat Americans can prop up their gauche Kahaluu McMansion. None of the SALPOV trainers are real professionals. They all have fakey SALPOV credentials. Their rank in the steep SALPOV cult hierarchy is based in how much kickback they pay the Spezzanos in the form of annual "license fees" which cost thousands of dollars or Euros. Quite the scam.

Here's a link to the SALPOV trainer's mantra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LBasxQ9Nyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LBasxQ9Nyc)

And here's a link to Babs being manipulated by, in my opinion, hypnosis. As a free person walking between the Earth and the sky, a child of God, I can express my view that Lenora Kay Spezzano is merely using hypnotic stage tricks as she professes to "download" forces from Heaven or whatever. Lenora is a big fake. She "downloads" nothing except her own sense of power over another human being. And for a FN leader like Babs to fall for this incredibly obvious scam is sad. Watch how Babs allows herself to be dominated  by a wealthy American. Lenora manages every move Babs makes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

The case of Babs Stevens tragically includes FN people. In the German language version of the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual (Section K) the Spezzanos outlined how to target FN people. Isn't it interesting this strategy was not duplicated and spelled out in the English language manual? Why not? Answer: two words-- Affinity Fraud. They didn't think anyone would notice. But we did. I know you folks in the RCMP are reading this as well as officials in Ottawa. What are you going to do about it? These crooks need to be stopped.Now!. Canada can take the lead here. We here on NAFPS have presented more than enough evidence on this forum to prove SALPOV is just one big greedhead scam. Are Canadian law enforcement and regulatory action folks really that  ineffective and namby-pamby? Go, man, bust these clowns! Get ahead of the German authorities!

Manifest Destiny, Psychocolonisation, Elitism, Entitled, Cultural Imperialism, whatever term you want to apply to the activities of the two overfed and wealthy white American con artists from Hawaii who control SALPOV, you have to conclude that any FN person who cooperates with this scam is basically selling out their own soul. I am going to say this out loud, and it won't be kind, but it needs to be said: Babs Stevens is selling out her own culture and people. She has betrayed the trust placed upon her position as a leader. Instead of defending her culture she has surrendered it to greedy fat Americans.

Even though this Babs workshop costs a chunk of change, you have to bring your own lunch! I think there is a metaphor there. And the "Healing Key" from this scam if you value your dignity, intelligence,  and pocketbook is to turn around and RUN AWAY!

It would appear that in spite of the harsh and unforgiving criticism of Oneness University by young Christopher Spezzano, and confirmed in a politically slitherally way by his mother, Lenora Kay Spezzano, Babs Stevens is advertising herself as a devotee of Oneness University via Twitter and LinkedIn. This is apparently not in goosestep with the SALPOV program. So if Babs is going to blather in her workshop about how Charles Lee Spezzano and Lenora Kay Spezzano are the cat's meow, she first better clear with her wealthy White Overlords whether or not it is OK to be a Oneness Blessing Giver.

SALPOV seems to have have something of a "split mind." Although both Spezzanos fell all over themselves to salivate at the feet of Amma and Bhagavan and incorporate Oneness University theology into the SALPOV program, something bad happened. What was it? Babs has not caught up to the party line. So you potential BC students might not be getting the pure SALPOV dogma for "enlightenment."

My question is why, exactly, is Oneness University such a bad thing to SALPOV? The Spezzanos have taken extraordinary pains to erase all connection to that institution, employing a Stalinesque process of rewriting their own history.  As late as earlier this year you could still read on SALPOV websites that Oneness University was one of SALPOV's "two greatest inspirations" along with A Course in Miracles, a text written by Jesus Christ-- channeled, of course.  SALPOV still embraces this document that is supposedly authored by Jesus, making SALPOV a fundamentally Christian faith.

As I have already demonstrated, SALPOV deviates from A Course in Miracles quite a bit-- especially when the ACIM dogma interferes with the Spezzano profit margin. The Spezzano sales pitch is all about appealing to your guilt, fear and greed. There are better places to go for these issues. Don't feed these fat pigs. Your options: Join the US Republican Party, or, seek real professional help from real professionals and not from fakey posuers like the Spezzanos.

SALPOV: It's all about the money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JAJVAGC9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JAJVAGC9M)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 28, 2014, 09:40:02 pm
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The Power of Scorpio to evolve

As a Soul Astrologer and a Scorpio woman I get vexed how misunderstood the sign of Scorpio can be. Growing up I was loathe to tell anyone I was born under this sign as the response was usually one of “oh- you have a sting in your tail” as they withdrew.

Scorpio has 3 symbols and the scorpion is just the starting point. This is the sign that represents evolution and transformation. I call it the sign of the shaman.

As a Scorpio I am now proud to say I have faced and healed many Shadows and dark stories in my life. I really don’t have a sting in my tail!

I have met shamans on Psychology of Vision trainings in British Columbia, Canada and fell honoured to count them as true friends.

Yesterday I honoured my power totem – the Eagle- and created an altar with an eagle feather in pride of place. It was given to me in 1997 in Vancouver by a First Nations woman.


Do you have a place in your home where you can create an altar that honours your power animal, deity or Goddess?

Excerpt from Scorpio: Power and Transformation, by Pam Carruthers (bold type emphasis is mine)

http://www.healingstars.com/scorpio-power-transformation/ (http://www.healingstars.com/scorpio-power-transformation/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on October 28, 2014, 10:02:44 pm
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and created an altar with an eagle feather in pride of place. It was given to me in 1997 in Vancouver by a First Nations woman.

Illegal, right? To give her an eagle feather, and for her to then transport it to England?

http://www.fws.gov/alaska/ambcc/ambcc/treaty_act.htm (http://www.fws.gov/alaska/ambcc/ambcc/treaty_act.htm)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on October 28, 2014, 11:27:34 pm
 My question is what is the "shamans" name ?? and what kind of real shaman would have anything with this known cult run by chuck and his wife lency spezzano, i would bet it's all make believe and pretending to be a "shaman" so these gullible people will go back to their countries and brag about meeting a real "shaman" in Europe this could be just another marketing ploy, chuck did promote as first nationd=s as "having the answer" and needed special treatment, like the "first nations fund" bummed from devote people in other countries
  nothing is free with this cult, when they say he's pro bono to indian villages and tribes, this just means he conned money from someone else to pay for the first nations "cultural renaissance". i personally do not understand why the tribes he and his "advanced trainers/recruiters targeted for teaching Pov put up with his bullshit and keep allowing him back, possibly because ther are positioned people in band office and health center administrative jobs that know how to access money to keep his greasy filthy wheels turning
 the village citizens have to take back what is rightly theirs and say no more to this fake "healing".
  all government health programs should be updated about how government money doled out under the guise of healing is really spent, especially when it's spent on fraud healers , shamans . and these two posing as psychologists
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on October 29, 2014, 12:03:30 am

So Ms Carruthers actually did write:

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I have met shamans on Psychology of Vision trainings in British Columbia, Canada and fell honoured to count them as true friends.

Very interesting typo indeed. She did not feel honoured, or felt honoured, she fell[/quote].
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 29, 2014, 04:39:06 pm
In SALPOV, people are a commodity to be exploited.

Since we are paying special attention this week to Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) and their relationship with FN in Canada, I'd like to expand on an earlier post originally created by the incredible Piff a year ago, especially for the benefit of those of you just joining this discussion, particularly law enforcement and media. Glad you folks are gaining more interest.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35791#msg35791 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35791#msg35791)

Allow me to introduce Exhibit 1 to set the stage. This is from the Calgary Herald. All bolding from this point on is my emphasis--

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Sun 28 Jan 2001 News A1 / FRONT Suzanne Fournier, Vancouver Province

Natives find New Age help in Hawaii

By: Suzanne Fournier, Vancouver Province

Natives are spending thousands of tax dollars jetting off to Hawaii for workshops in questionable New Age therapies.

Critics say the training trips, and the ensuing therapy sessions on the reserves, are a waste of taxpayers' money, unhelpful and potentially dangerous for victims of everything from residential school abuse to sexual assault and addictions.

But Dr. Jay Wortman, B.C. director for Health Canada's medical services branch, says bands can spend health money as they like.

"We might not condone it and I agree 100-per-cent it looks bad, but it would be paternalistic to dictate to First Nations how they spend their health dollars."

In Manitoba, however, Health Canada is suing to recover $5 million from a native centre that used counselling dollars to send staff to the Caribbean and Hawaii.

About 14 B.C. natives attended $2,500 workshops in Hawaii last November.

Dr. Charles Brasfield, a North Vancouver psychiatrist who has treated hundreds of native residential-school victims, says they typically require lengthy one-on-one counselling, which Health Canada refuses to pay for.

When bands spend money on quick-fix New Age therapies such as Neurolinguistic Programming and something called Psychology of Vision, he says, Health Canada looks the other way.

"Typically, these quick-fix money-makers try to get an aboriginal 'trainer' as a front," he said. "We tried to warn medical services how public money was being spent but they weren't interested.

"We're very concerned about the influx of these money-making quick-fix therapies. They're very expensive and they're just sweeping reserves."

Agrees Vera Manuel, a Secwepemc playwright and qualified traditional therapist: "It's a feeding frenzy out there -- all kinds of so-called therapists are coming out of the woodwork."

"These New Age therapies are becoming as oppressive to us as the first wave of religion -- some of them are like cults. This is not a good use of the small amount of money we have."

Carole Dawson of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs said she has complained repeatedly to health and Indian affairs officials about her impoverished Tsawataineuk reserve, on northern Vancouver Island, paying for NLP workshops.

"They just don't listen," she said.

"Not only is this taxpayers' money being wasted, it's dangerous, irrelevant drivel -- how does our social worker spending two weeks in Hawaii help the people suffering on our reserve?"

Tsawataineuk social worker Charlene Dawson was among those who flew to Hawaii in November for NLP "training," for which she says she borrowed $3,500 for airfare, hotel and meals "that I'll be paying off for years."

The workshop, in Kona-Kailua on Hawaii, was put on by Nimpkish band member Richard Hunt, who lives in Tsawwassen and makes a comfortable living as an NLP "master trainer."

He didn't charge Dawson for the workshop. Instead, she agreed to promote NLP workshops on reserves, where they would be paid for with federal health dollars or Indian affairs dollars.

Dawson, a single mother of five, defended going to Hawaii: "You're on a big high -- Hawaii is so beautiful. But when you get home, reality hits. It's a real let-down." Said elder Flora Dawson, Carole's mother and a distant relative of Charlene: "Elders and home-care clients weren't really looked after while she was gone."

The Neskainlith band near Chase paid $3,200 for two band members to attend, which band social development director Leigh Ann Edwards admitted is "more than a third of our annual medical services training money."

"I don't understand NLP, but it's popular," she said. "We prefer to fund aboriginal counsellors here but it's hard."

Hunt, 38, said he has given "hundreds" of paid sessions on reserves since he became a "master trainer" in 1995.

He said he isn't concerned that NLP has little credibility among medical experts: "NLP by itself I agree might not be useful, but I do use our aboriginal experience and the real kicker I use is called timeline therapy." Timeline therapy is an NLP technique to eliminate negative thoughts and emotions about previous events in a person's life.

Asked about the ethics of charging cash-strapped bands thousands of dollars for Hawaii workshops, Hunt replied angrily: "I didn't twist their arms or force them to come, did I?"

Turtle Island Native Network Aboriginal News & Information http://www.turtleisland.org E-mail: infocom@...

Now let's move on the Exhibit 2, the SALPOV public face of their unregistered charity, the First Nations Fund--

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First Nations

First Nations in Canada

First Nations-the first peoples of Canada-are made up of more than 200 culturally autonomous First Nations communities that have unique languages and traditions. Some First Nations communities have been decimated by colonization and many First Nations people have been impacted by the residential school policy that separated First Nations children from their families and culture. This 130-year legacy (1870 – 1998) deeply impacted First Nations relationships, esteem, health and family bonding. Very few survivors are still alive today although the post traumatic effects are still being experienced in the next generation.

First Nations & Psychology of Vision

Over 20 years ago Chuck and Lency were inspired to work more closely with First Nations people. They had a vision (that compelled them to create a Fund) to support and empower First Nations to heal, for as they did, First Nations in future would lead the way on the planet with healing and reconciliation. As the Psychology of Vision healing model is being graciously welcomed in many First Nation communities, it is brining healing and wholeness to families and communities. Why? Because Psychology of Vision aligns with many First Nations belief systems. Initially Chuck and Lency began working with communities by invitation and would deliver trainings once or twice a year as a gift. Over the past two decades, thousands of First Nations people received healing and training with Psychology of Vision. Many First Nations went on to become trainers of the healing methods themselves and began sharing and teaching in their own communities. This became the second part of Chuck and Lency’s vision, to have First Nations trainers themselves empowered and resourced to deliver trainings and empower their own people locally. Psychology of Vision is dedicated to awakening the giftedness of indigenous peoples on the planet.

The First Nations Fund was created to support the healing of First Nations so they can teach and inspire their own people. Financial contributions are generously donated from each country where Psychology of Vision is taught around the world. Since its inception, the First Nations Fund has successfully graduated 40 First Nations people from the 100 Day program; and ten of these graduates went on to become First Nations Trainers throughout British Columbia. Today there are 2 First Nations trainers still actively training with Psychology of Vision. Babs Stevens, who is Haida from Skidegate, Haida Gwaii and Melissa Meyer who is Tsimshian from Port Simpson and currently lives in Gibsons, British Columbia just outside of Vancouver. [Sandy S. note, Melissa Meyer has left SALPOV, which means SALPOV is down to just Babs as their only FN trainer. Quite a comedown from ten!]

The First Nations Fund is administered by Susan How at the Psychology of Vision Canada office.

First Nations Fund Application

If you belong to a First Nations community and plan to attend Psychology of Vision training or apprenticeship, you may apply for a subsidy from the First Nations Fund to help cover accommodation expenses. Applications are considered on an as-needed basis.

For more information or to apply, please contact Susan How at susan@povcanada.com or by telephone at 604.298.4011.
First Nations Programs being offered:

Programs will be posted as they become available.


http://povcanada.com/first-nations/ (http://povcanada.com/first-nations/)

As an aside I need to ask: Does this First Nations Fund have any connection with the International Foundation for Vision and Healing, in which Babs Stevens is an officer? Or is this just some kind of weird dance with the CRA?

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38709#msg38709  (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38709#msg38709)

Now the fun begins. For some reason, the First Nations Fund was left out of the English Language Edition of the Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual (Exhibit 3). Doesn't it strike you as strange that a fund designed for North America would not be mentioned in the English Language Edition? But in the German Language Edition, both for 2013 and 2014, the First Nations Fund was given an entire chapter, Section K (Exhibits 4 and 5). Examples are all attached for those of you who are signed in. The English manual has long since been removed (so much for the SALPOV rhetoric about "transparency") as well as the 2013 German manual. The 2014 German manual is still up.

http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf (http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf)

Our comrade Ingeborg graciously, and somewhat wryly, translated Section K for those of us unfamiliar with the German language. Here is a link to Ingeborg's findings presented on two posts. You can see why SALPOV did not present this in English after you read Ingeborg's treatment--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

Y'know, the Spezzanos are not going to like it when Germany, their greatest cash cow, experiences an economic downturn in the next few quarters, which is predicted. People will be less likely to have that discretionary income to waste on SALPOV blather. Instead, potential clients will have to embezzle funds in order to afford the travel costs and outrageously high SALPOV fees in order to salivate at the feet of their idols in Hawaii, like the recently mentioned "Honolulu Jutta," the Kindergarten administrator in the Hamburg area. I wonder if the Spezzanos contributed to her defense fund? Interesting that the German legal system did not recognise SALPOV as a legitimate venue for continuing education--

http://www.mopo.de/nachrichten/kita-chefin-veruntreut-41000-euro---honolulu-jutta--und-ihre-esoterik-trips,5067140,28044226.html (http://www.mopo.de/nachrichten/kita-chefin-veruntreut-41000-euro---honolulu-jutta--und-ihre-esoterik-trips,5067140,28044226.html)

http://www.mopo.de/nachrichten/bizarre-fortbildungen-und-dessous--11-monate-fuer-kita-chefin-jutta-l---54-,5067140,28300178.html
 (http://www.mopo.de/nachrichten/bizarre-fortbildungen-und-dessous--11-monate-fuer-kita-chefin-jutta-l---54-,5067140,28300178.html)

And here, if you can stand it, is Exhibit 6, the Lency Spezzano "Original Mind" Download on Youtube. In this creepy performance, Lenora Kay Spezzano places Babs Stevens under hypnosis (who looks totally brain-fried by the conclusion) and calls Melissa Meyer "my daughter" at the end. Lenora denies this method employs hypnotic techniques, but watch and judge for yourself.

This video pretty much sums up the situation. Lenora Kay Spezzano wants control and to be the surrogate parent and Babs Stevens is more than willing to surrender and sell out Haida Gwaii to this wealthy woman from the States. This segment actually makes me sick. I double dare you to watch the whole thing. Weak stomachs need not bother. Listen carefully to Lenora's definition of what she is doing. It is total nonsense with no scientific or proven foundation. Why is Babs submitting to this scam and allowing herself to be used? And even worse, allowing her position of leadership to be exploited?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

Now that you have watched the quivering trainers in Exhibit 6, here is the final entry, Exhibit 7, where a secret camera filmed a SALPOV session--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJ2qyrqzp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJ2qyrqzp0)

Instead of thinking about the short-term gain of buying into the merchandise of guilt, fear, and greed dangled by SALPOV, people exposed to that con game need to start thinking about what kind of legacy they are going to leave. Do you really want to be remembered as someone who wasted all their potential energy which could have benefited the local community but instead fed into a machine enriching a couple of already wealthy Americans who designed a personality cult around themselves? Don't believe SALPOV is a personality cult? Go back and examine Exhibit 3 very carefully. There is a reason this document was removed from public view.

In SALPOV, people are a commodity to be exploited.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on November 27, 2014, 03:14:18 pm
Looks like this recent Youtube was filmed a few months ago in British Columbia and later posted by a SALPOV trainer. Charles and Lenora seem a bit off of their game--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YnScwt8Fg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YnScwt8Fg)

Fascinating.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 05, 2014, 12:55:51 pm
With his spouse Lenora Kay Spezzano now a much diminished figure in the organisation, the public face of SALPOV will be more reliant on Charles Lee Spezzano. And as we have documented many times before here on NAFPS, his emotional maturity in the area of sex is about on par with Beavis and Butthead. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfvu3I0Wc4)

It has been said religion is the last refuge of scoundrels. Let us amend that. Selling sex is the last refuge of scoundrels, especially if you started out being a merchant of "spiritual" merchandise. From what I can see, Spezzano uses the topic of sex in the form of aggressive and uncomfortable humor in his brainwashing workshops to intimidate and bully people, get them off their guard. He has become one of those halitosis old farts who prefaces his statements with, "I know I might get in trouble for saying this since I am not politically correct," and then launches into some offensive anti-woman "joke." He's a secret redneck posing as a liberal. He has a "split mind." 

moreinfo pointed me to the current SALPOV card of the day:

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SEX is the card for today. SEX is in essence communication and when there is joining and love communicated SEX creates transformation so that things progress and unfold…So may you have a "lucky night" all day long (emphasis on the long) and may it be a time of "slippery celebrations." No expectations but pure expectancy will do the trick….Have fun!

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/12/sex.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/12/sex.html)

Ironically, one of young Christopher Spezzano's comical complaints concerning us critics was: "The stories that are being spread on these sites are ridiculous and often lewd."

The current Bill Cosby controversy is not going to help Charles Lee Spezzano as he attempts to use his habitual sexual jokes as a method of intimidating and recruiting more cult followers. Like Cosby, we see Spezzano is an insect trapped in the amber of the 1970s. Charles thinks he's pretty funny and hip, but most of his fellow Americans would consider him a transparent and smug corny con artist which is part of the reason he has no organisation in the USA. I believe he is at a point in life where he is unable to change his act enough to adapt to the new reality. His little quotes which are used in various venues are frequently from his quarter century old past writings and are mindlessly repeated for the consumption of uncritical minds, who gobble up this slop and praise their master. 

And, the December Nightlight Newsletter is also obsessed with sex. Here is a portion of the Google translation from the German language release (apparently we English-language readers are Verboten from reading the words of the Spezzano Himself).

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Our love life will be a highlight in December. Like the canary in the mine. Everything that finds expression in sexuality and remains, shows us our life pattern. Do you use sex or the lack of sexuality as a point? If you put it just for the fun one, hiding you in the belief that you're only a body on the path of impermanence, get caught up? Do you use sex to prove that you're good, better or best? Or give and receive you in sexuality, love your partner and rejoice in him? True sexuality arises from the self-worth of innocence and self-love. Everything else degenerates into neediness and take and leads to heartbreak, revenge and broken dreams. If we abuse our sexuality, it mixes with guilt and shame. View your sex life! What ails you? Show yourself responsible for the result and then it hands you the sky so that it can be transformed.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-dezember-2014/&prev=search
 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.pov-int.eu/nlarchiv/pov-int-eu-nightlight-newsletter-dezember-2014/&prev=search)

If you are thinking of investing in a Psychology of Vision "seminar" or have already signed on to this personality cult, my advice is: Run away! Run away! Run away! The whole SALPOV deal is just a scam to feed the Spezzano bank account. It has never been anything more and it has no future. This cult is rapidly shrinking and will be gone within a decade.

In the SALPOV hive mentality, independence is to be avoided at all times. When the SALPOV customers re-enter the real world after basking in the glow of a workshop, there is no follow-up, no aftercare, and the crash and burn phase takes over. The Spezzanos will not be there to pick you back up-- unless you pay their incredibly high fees, of course. No amount of stock photos of young happy people caught in mid air as they joyfully jump is going to change that.   

The only purpose of this SALPOV corporation is to extract money from the gullible in order to support the Spezzano lifestyle. The way they have appropriated FN and Hawaiian culture to feed their confabulations should have a consequence.

Back to the main point, it will be intriguing to watch how desperate SALPOV will become in attempting to lure passengers to board a ship that is obviously sinking.       


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 06, 2014, 06:51:02 pm
In an effort to understand the place of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) in the universe of frauds, perverts, loonies, egotists, and crooks as exposed by NAFPS, I took a stroll through the entire "Fraud" section to do some comparison measuring. This exercise was not super in-depth at all, so I am sure I missed a few other connections.

SALPOV very rarely works with or even praises other scamsters unless they are products of the SALPOV assembly line. Once they held a workshop in partnership with Guru Singh, and for several years they sang the wonders of Oneness University, but basically in New Age terms, SALPOV is a Hermit Kingdom like North Korea. So much for "Oneness."

But they do have a lot in common with the rather sordid parade of characters in NAFPS. Germany seems to be a particularly lucrative market for many of these spiritual capitalists. Although the Spezzanos use a lot of "sciency" lingo, probably more so than the others on this list, there is no real science in their theology. And the fact they appeal to an overlapping market with the crazies and the crooks should tell you something about how "professional" SALPOV really is.

As I compiled this list it is striking just how rinky-dink the whole SALPOV corporation really is. And antiquated. And dying. Since it is so small and just another tiny tidbit in the mountain of New Age crap this has enabled the Spezzanos to escape major and continued notice from the media and law enforcement. If they had grown any bigger they might have been shut down long ago.

Scanning through this forum has been a real educational eye opener and I have even more appreciation for all you out there who are devoting your time to educating the public about cultural theft, psychocolonisation, and "healers" who take advantage of vulnerable people. Thank you.

Here are my notes:

Bennie LeBeau aka Blue Thunder: Charles Lee Spezzano and LeBeau are both honoured contributors to the Magical Melody website, 2004. Long before I knew about NAFPS, I knew about LeBeau and what an egotist he is.   
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v76/__show_log/_p3/ (http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v76/__show_log/_p3/)

Steven Farmer: A business rival with Spezzano's targeted audience for oracle/Tarot cards. Spezzano and Farmer have both been speakers hosted by Alternatives at St. James Church in the UK. Spezzano administered a Oneness University-type Deeksha blessing there in 2007 (I have the DVD) and Farmer talked about connecting to the spirit world in 2005. Like Spezzano, Farmer apparently also has an APA-unaccredited Ph.D., and uses the title "Dr." liberally.

Peace Mother Geeta Sacred Song: The Spezzanos share a bibliographical listing under the category of "Inspirational Themes" with Peace Mother Geeta Sacred Song in the Dreamwalker Group website. Some of the listings are confused with another author named Charles Spezzano. Someone didn't do their homework.
http://dreamwalkergroup.com/subjects/inspirational.htm (http://dreamwalkergroup.com/subjects/inspirational.htm)

Alberto Villodo: I found more than one example of people citing training from both SALPOV and Villodo on their resumes. Villodo is a contemporary of the Spezzanos, and his career has a few parallels, except instead of going up and down the North American West Coast posing as a psychic like Charles Lee Spezzano did in 1980-1982, Villodo went into academics and established some professional-looking credentials. He also founded The Four Winds Society, "Where Modern Science Meets Ancient Wisdom." Villodo and the Spezzanos turn up in the same New Age catalogs of crappy nonsense for sale, and in the same lecture circuits for the gullible affluent class. The difference is, Villodo's marketing is slicker and he is in Wikipedia, while-- sorry Charlie-- Spezzano was rejected as not being "notable" enough. However, Villodo apparently shares the same sort of bogus APA unaccredited Ph.D. that Charles possesses, so they have that little facade in common. In using the "healing" scam they are all going after the same customer base, but it would appear the Spezzanos can only watch Villodo from afar and salivate with jealousy at being outclassed by a more accomplished con artist.

Angaangaq Lyberth: Looks like this character was part of the Affinity Fraud feeding frenzy along with SALPOV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liijgHmbBzg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liijgHmbBzg)
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Jens_Lyberth (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Jens_Lyberth)

Bernard Perona AKA Drunvalo Melchizedek: Another personality that can be considered Spezzano business competition for the same customer base. Perona and the Spezzanos overlap in some resumes and New Age catalogues merchandising spirituality. Once you become familiar with Perona's theories and practices, this association is not a compliment to the Spezzanos and highlights just how wacky Lenora Kay Spezzano's "downloading" claims really are.

Braco: Lenora Kay Spezzano and her right eye have nothing on this guy, "The Gazer." He doesn't even have to make contorted faces and babble about junk science in his medicine show. In addition to having his own Wikipedia entry, Braco has cultivated a following in the USA, something the Spezzanos have not achieved. Braco and the Spezzanos share admirers from the Central European New Age flock.

Michael Harner: Academic rationalisations, going down to Latin America, ingesting drugs, and banging on drums does not a shaman make. This guy is a septic system of New Age crap. Harner shares more website mentions with Spezzano than I can count. It figures.

Brant Secunda: Appears to travel the same lecture circuit throughout Germany as Charles Lee Spezzano.

Sun Bear: Another popular "healer" with a German customer base. Sun Bear shares resume space with the Spezzanos for several New Age business people, and was even quoted in a review of one of Spezzano's ersatz Tarot card sets.

Serge King: King's appropriation of Hawaiian culture is match for that of the Spezzanos. As such their names intermingle among the uncritical praises of those who live in the lifestyles of the rich and easily led.

Charles Storm/Wolf Storm: Storm is truly a repulsive character. At least one German site mentions him in glowing terms alongside Charles Lee Spezzano.

Cleargreen Cult: Just last April an ad for a Castaneda-inspired event was published side by side with Charles Lee Spezzano hustling his wares in a German publication aimed at the same New Age audience (attached). The Spezzanos appear to be giving up on the English-speaking world. It's all about the money.

David Carson: Carson's "Medicine Cards," yet another Tarot ripoff, has been endorsed by Spezzano spinoff astrologer Pam Carruthers. Carson's and Spezzano's merchandise compete for customers in many of the same catalogues.
http://www.healingstars.com/march-moon-swimming-ocean-pisces/ (http://www.healingstars.com/march-moon-swimming-ocean-pisces/)

Denise Alvarado/"Cherokee Pipe Carrier": Her book, The Voodoo Hoodoo Spellbook, frequently turns up on the same German language Amazon lists as Spezzano's works. It figures. Voodoo is quite the cheesey industry if you visit New Orleans. It contributes to Bourbon's Street's carnival atmosphere which, don't me wrong, is a lot of fun. Amusingly, the following title also frequently appears with Alvarado and Spezzano, published by "Hypnotic Marketing, Inc."-- Spiritual Marketing: A Proven 5-Step Formula for Easily Creating Wealth from the Inside Out.


Diane Fisher AKA Dhyani Ywahoo, Black Indian Inn: Lots of high-interest overlap with the Spezzano scam in, yes, you guessed it-- Germany! Starting to pick up a pattern here? Karl May must be smiling in his grave.

Ed McGaa: Published works appear alongside that of the Spezzanos for the same target audience in New Age catalogues for the feeble-minded or for those who are blinded by their wounds. Lots of money is required for the toll. Easy pickings for the sociopaths.

Eliot Cowan: Another fraud who was hosted by Alternatives in the UK, just like Spezzano. Cowan also is promoted on the same German-language New Age merchandising webpages as the Spezzanos. 

Erick Gonzalez: Gonzalez, the drugpushing lowlife scumbag who is Spezzano's closest competition for capturing the soul of Haida Gwaii, shared the spotlight with Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision in the APTN scandal-exposing documentary broadcast about cult activity on the island last year as reported by Rob Smith. Gonzalez has lately given himself the comical name of "Spirit Jaguar." It is fitting a greedy criminal like this should be coupled with the Spezzanos in a documentary expose. According to my close sources the Spezzanos actually met with Gonzalez on Haida Gwaii several years ago. Two words. Frog venom. The stories have it that Erick emerged from the meeting as the alpha cult leader and his influence grows as the Spezzanos retreat from British Columbia and focus their money making activities instead on Asia and Central Europe. Haida leader Babs Stevens appears to accept whatever New Age fad comes down the pike and isn't too critical thinking about them, so as long as she holds office whatever idiotic cult is dominant will hold sway.
    
Eva Maria and Michael Mora: They are in a race with the Spezzanos to pick the pockets of rich Europeans, especially Germans.
    
Francis Talbot AKA Medicine Story AKA Manitonquat: Another rival of the Spezzanos for the German customer base. I probably saw this clown at one of the Rainbow Gatherings in the 1970s, events that were filled with mostly idealistic American white kids-- easy prey for "spiritual" con artists. Talbot's connection with the notorious sexual predator Harvey Jackins is especially disturbing. By their very nature these "healing" New Age scam groups like Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision are predatory, all you have to do is simply watch Lenora Kay Spezzano's expression on her "downloading" YouTubes to witness that. But if you add the element of sexual predators-- which is apparently quite common with the parade of sleazeballs highlighted in NAFPS, the element of Evil multiplies. I knew one of Jackins' rape victims and got to hear from her in some detail how he manipulated his flock for his own gain.
    
Gillian Eva Sheer AKA Gilly Colledge AKA Solara An Ra: From her website-- "Solara An-Ra is a world renowned channel who has been transmitting en-lightening information from Ascended Masters, Earth-keeper ancestors, Babaji and Star Beings since 1998. She works primarily with the ‘Councils of Light’ – a collective of Andromedan, Sirian, Pleiadian and Arcturian Star Beings who tell us repeatedly 'The Time Is Now!'" This nutcase shares quite the YouTube and Facebook fanbase with Charles Lee Spezzano. You'd think it would be with Lenora Kay Spezzano, given her wackjob video presentations, but no. However when you view videos such as Charles' The Year 2010, where he gifts the world with his profound prophecies, then it makes perfect sense he would be lumped in with Solara An-Ra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76)

James Arthur Ray: Yes, the same Ray who was a darling on Oprah's show and later served hard time for those sweat lodge deaths in 2009. Ray and the Spezzano's names overlap quite a bit in the online world among those who distribute merchandise dealing in the Law of Attraction or/and Magical Thinking (or "Manifesting," as Charles calls it). Given a few of the stories we have been told about the conditions under which SALPOV conducts some of their long brainwashing sessions (overcrowding in the "The Barn," uncontrollable quivering, vomiting, freakouts, intimidation, etc.), the shared Ray fanbase is a public health risk to be taken seriously. Unlike Charles Lee Spezzano, Ray does have an entry in Wikipedia, but it is the kind of coverage any New Age capitalist would want to avoid.

Jamie Sams: Another erstaz Tarot card seller who competes with Spezzano for the same customer pool. She also publishes books. Former SALPOV trainer Pam Carruthers seems to be particularly enamored with Sams' cards, citing them numerous times on her astrology website.
http://www.healingstars.com/scorpio-power-transformation/ (http://www.healingstars.com/scorpio-power-transformation/)

Jane Ely: Actually, I am surprised not to find much of a connection between Ely and the Spezzanos, but I list her here for other reasons. Like Charles Lee Spezzano, she possesses a bogus Ph.D. not accredited by the APA (or anyone else), but likes to tout that credential. She lives in Hawaii. She is a "healer" who has appropriated the jargon and icons of FN and Hawaiian cultures. She charges obscene fees for her services. Where Spezzano talks about the "split mind," Ely's technique "synchronizes the two hemispheres of the brain." She started a program that issues diplomas. Multi-day "workshops" are common, isolating the client from outside influences. There appears to be some kind of ranking system. The mirror image goes on and on. But she lives on a different island and has cultivated clients in the mainland United States, where she has other bases of operation. So perhaps in spite of their similarities, they operate in different geographic locations, just like how the Mob would divide a city into territories in those old gangster movies.

Jaya Becker AKA Jaya Bear: Her published work appears in the same German-language online catalogues as Spezzano.

John Cali: This character claimed, among other things, to channel the spirit of Chief Joseph. Cali and Spezzano appeared on the same websites by their mutual admirers in 2007, during the year the Spezzanos were fresh from their attendance as enthusiastic students of Oneness University.
http://www.keen.com/CommunityServer/UserBlogs/Unicorn_Healers/Horse--ense-and-other-natural-ideas/default.aspx?p=7 (http://www.keen.com/CommunityServer/UserBlogs/Unicorn_Healers/Horse--ense-and-other-natural-ideas/default.aspx?p=7)
http://findingmywaytowellbeing.blogspot.com/2007/07/resources-for-well-being-coaches.html
 (http://findingmywaytowellbeing.blogspot.com/2007/07/resources-for-well-being-coaches.html)

John of God: Y'know, if you look at this guy's claims, and think of his name in crude slang terms, then you realize that he is just full of ... well, you get the idea. Although John and the Spezzano's names appear frequently together on many New Age websites, catering to the same nominees for the Darwin Awards, the former has had many things the latter can only fantasize about-- promotion by Oprah, two entries in Wikipedia, a South American client base, and lots more money changing hands.

Karin Tag: German author, channeler, and keeper of a crystal skull. Like Charles Lee Spezzano, her "Ph.D." does not qualify her even remotely to engage in any healing activity. Her works appear alongside the Spezzanos in many New Age catalogues aimed at German-language readers. Somewhere I recall reading Lenora Kay Spezzano expressing belief in the mystical powers of "ancient" crystal skulls.
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Karin_Tag (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Karin_Tag)
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080523_crystal.htm
 (http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080523_crystal.htm)

Leo Rutherford: UK "shaman," drugpusher, and ripoff artist. Earned the title "Twinkdork" on this forum. Has lectured at Alternatives, just like Spezzano. Leo competes with the Spezzanos for the same New Age reading audience in both English and German catalogues. SALPOV trainer Louise Magee, who served the Spezzanos from 2008-2011, also was a student of Rutherford's in 2009. In her 2009 SALPOV profile, these choice passages can be found: "i am currently in the process of writing an infertility program based on the principles of POV and energetic chakra healing, i hope that this will be available shortly." and "As a POV trainer I offer coaching, am a teacher of Steps to Leadership and regularly facilitate process led workshops in Brighton and the UK. I have a particular interest in the POV Canadian First Nations Indigenous population and support workshops and trainers in this particular area."
http://www.hummingbirdhealing.co.uk/page32/index.html (http://www.hummingbirdhealing.co.uk/page32/index.html)
http://web.archive.org/web/20090425084518/http://www.pov-int.com/en_uk/trainers/4516 (http://web.archive.org/web/20090425084518/http://www.pov-int.com/en_uk/trainers/4516)
    
Lobsang Rampa: An English plumber named Cyril Henry Hoskin who claimed to channel the wisdom of a Tibetan lama called Tuesday Lobsang Rampa wrote several books based on this fantasy. Wikipedia describes Hoskin's last years: "Lobsang Rampa went on to write another 18 books containing a mixture of religious and occult material. One of the books, Living with the Lama, was described as being dictated to Rampa by his pet Siamese cat, Mrs Fifi Greywhiskers. Faced with repeated accusations from the British press that he was a charlatan and a con artist, Rampa went to live in Canada in the 1960s. He and his wife, San Ra'ab, became Canadian citizens in 1973, along with Sheelagh Rouse (Buttercup) who was his secretary and regarded by Rampa as his adopted daughter. Lobsang Rampa died in Calgary on 25 January 1981, at the age of 70." The Spezzanos base their cult on A Course in Miracles, which was dictated by Jesus to Helen Schucman, so they have something in common with Hoskins in terms of having a wacky theological foundation. Also, the Spezzanos and Hoskins share the same fanbase, as evidenced by personal websites and catalogues.

Hunbatz Men AKA Cesar Mena Toto: The supposed "Mayan Elder" who apparently based part of his teachings on the lunatic fringe world view of José Argüelles. It would seem, based on SALPOV writings, that the Spezzanos also tried to cash in on the "2012" nonsense. Both Hunbatz Men and the Spezzanos attracted the same kind of followers and commercial distributors. I was actually acquainted with Argüelles (a creative fellow) in the 1970s and I suspect even he would have rejected the Spezzanos as total frauds-- and that is saying a lot.

Lynn Carol Eggers AKA Lynn Andrews: This Beverly Hills, California fraud has produced card sets and books that appear alongside Spezzano's works in New Age catalogues. Also, they share a fanbase and a few hypnotherapy types who count both of them in their list of trainers on their resumes.
http://skepdic.com/andrews.html (http://skepdic.com/andrews.html)

Markus Wider: This European ceremony seller shares the same German-language book merchandising catalogues as Spezzano while pandering to the New Age market.

Meg Blackburn Losey: Another American New Age author who, like Spezzano, has an APA unaccredited degree and, again like Spezzano, enjoys using the "Ph. D." suffix or the "Dr." prefix as if this is supposed to impress us. Losey and Spezzano compete for the same pieces of the New Age pie, frequently bumping into each other on websites and catalogues as they reach into the wallets of European and Asian consumers of nonsense. Also, she has a program offering "certification" and some kind of ranking system, similar to SALPOV. Losey posts photos of spirits, orbs, UFOs and marks made on alien abductees. This is really no more ridiculous than Spezzano's assertions regarding "astral forces," "demons," and the ability to increase the size of female breasts.

Miguel Ruiz: Going after the same fad-based fanbase as the Spezzanos, except Ruiz is much more successful at it. He also merchandises ersatz Tarot cards, DVDs, CDs, books, and, something the "cutting edge" SALPOV has yet to market, iPhone apps. 

Pablo Russell: This guy is a real sleazy piece of work. Russell and Spezzano are both engaged in extracting large sums of money from a European New Age customer base, and as such their names are frequently linked on the lecture circuits.
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Pablo_Russell (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Pablo_Russell)

Peter Aziz: His website says, "I have spent my whole life training in shamanism, yoga, magick, and metaphysics, and learning from the faery kingdom. I live in Devon, UK, and have written three books. Explore this website to find out about the shamanic trainings, spiritual empowerments, magickal protection, shamanic healing and magickal items I provide." And, "People contact me after they have tried other approaches to healing but have found that their problem persists. Some blocks to healing can only be resolved on the shamanic or magickal level. I am trained and initiated in many powerful shamanic healing traditions including Body Electronics, Javanese Magick, Egyptian Magick and Vodou. I have received direct spiritual transmissions which bring even greater power to my shamanic healing work. I am also a homeopath, herbalist, Reiki Grand Master, highest level Vodou priest, and Javanese sorcerer." Naturally Aziz turns up frequently with Spezzano in German-language New Age catalogues. It stands to reason since the Aziz claims are no less fanciful than the Charles Lee Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst Healing Metaphors A-Z/Healing Keys, or Spezzano's embrace of magical thinking, which he calls "manifesting."

Kiesha Crowther - "Little Grandmother": Another American fraud who appears to have done a better job of cleaning out the pockets of Europeans than the Spezzanos as they appear on the same catalogues, websites, and lecture circuit. Of course we'll never really know for sure since all the account books for both are closed. The only "transparency" here is how transparent the con game is. Crowther's theology appears to be much wackier than SALPOV's at first blush, but when one really examines the theological foundations of the Spezzano scam (A document authored by a channeled Jesus, astral attacks, downloading, demons, etc.), they are really not too far apart. The more all these clowns talk about "love," the more you need to watch your wallet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uu2algeRaU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uu2algeRaU)
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Kiesha_Crowther (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Kiesha_Crowther)
    
Reuben Ortiz AKA J Reuben Silverbird: There's no business like show business. Yet another joker from the States playing up the European stereotypes of North America for personal gain. He jostles with the Spezzanos for catalogue and lecture space. Strangely enough, Ortiz apparently also serves the Unification Church.
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/J._Reuben_Silverbird (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/J._Reuben_Silverbird)

Rosalyn Bruyere: She shares many traits with the Spezzanos, including the appropriation of Hawaiian culture as well as FN. They also share and compete for the same German-language retail spiritual consumer demographic. And, of course her Healing Light Center Church is filled with just as much silly blather as SALPOV. German "healer" Peter Herion has studied under both systems. I know I am diverting here, but the English translation of his website has an interesting take on the Spezzanos: "The cornerstones of this work are the systemic methods of "Psychology of Vision" as well as the knowledge and applications of the Hawaiian Huna philosophy and Hawaiian shamanism, as I Dr. Serge Kahili King (Hawaii)'ve learned. In addition come optionally NLP, hypnosis and developed by Lency Spezzano Joining method used." -- Interesting that "Joining" is lumped with hypnosis by a former SALPOV student, eh?
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/05/539-rosalyn-bruyere.html (http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/05/539-rosalyn-bruyere.html)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://peterherion.de/heilpraktiker-leistungen/&prev=search (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://peterherion.de/heilpraktiker-leistungen/&prev=search)

Sharon White-Elk Woman: Star beings, crystal skulls, and spiritual healing. She markets her own version of Tarot cards like Spezzano and as such is a business rival for the wounded and vulnerable.

Omnec Onec: She came to Earth from Venus in 1955 to spread a message of love. Her books and CDs have been marketed with German-language consumers as a target, so her titles frequently appear alongside Spezzano's in catalogues. Many of her little sound bites could be right out of Spezzano's Card of the Day. Makes perfect sense, don't you think?

Simon Buxton: The Bee Apprentice and yet another one who shares German-language catalogue space with Spezzano. Both assume a "professional" stance, but Buxton is to anthropology what Spezzano is to psychology.

Starr Fuentes: Miracle worker, healer, studied with shamans, internationally acclaimed, channeler-- no I am not describing Charles Lee and Lenora Kay Spezzano. This is Starr Fuentes, another Big Ego. A gentleman in Singapore named Vincent Chia, who at one time called himself a SALPOV trainer, also gave allegiance to Starr. Best to cover all bets, I guess.
    
Taisha Abelar: Although this Castaneda "witch" is out of circulation, her work is still gobbled up by the same European audience that falls for the pablum dished out by Spezzano.
http://www.salon.com/2007/04/12/castaneda/ (http://www.salon.com/2007/04/12/castaneda/)

Philip Young aka Philip Kansa aka "Spirit Bear": Young and his partner, Elke Kirchner, aim for the German-language customer. A Google translation of their website includes: "Phillip has studied psychology with a Bachelor of Science.Elke Kirchner is clairvoyant and goes the way of the shaman. You are channeling Uriel, the angel beings and communicating with beings of light and angels in touch. Elke f navigation use leads people to their true selves, l & ouml; st with them blockages and H & uuml; rden lovingly. Zus & auml; USEFUL inspire the authors L. Hay and C. Spezzano in their work. Both seminar leaders are intermediaries between the earthy material and the luminous spiritual world." In other websites both Philip and Elke mention their training with the Spezzanos. They are no less crazy than their mentors.

ManKind Project: It very interesting that this nonprofit cult-like organisation which is for men only, including a "New Warrior Training Adventure," shares a fanbase with SALPOV, particularly on Facebook. This especially unusual since the SALPOV demographic appears to be mostly female-- in fact SALPOV's population brings to mind that quote from Ron Swanson, “I’m surrounded by a lot of women in this department. And that includes the men.” After male cult members are ground up, emasculated and vilified in SALPOV, they can go to the ManKind Project to heal from the experience.

Vladimir Antonov: Has swiped doctrines, fads, and theologies from many sources and cobbled them together into his own little cult (sound familiar?), competing with Spezzano in the same catalogues for German-speaking seekers.

Yellow Horse Man: A healer who uses crystals, sells drums and CDs, and holds workshops. He is listed on many websites alongside the utterly bogus Spezzano/Ticehurst Healing Adventures nonsense, which proved so embarrassing to SALPOV devotees that it was pulled from public viewing earlier this year, away from the eyes of thinking people.

It's all bullshit. All of it.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 09, 2014, 01:32:26 am
On the LinkedIn profile for Alison Banks, she states she was a SALPOV trainer in the UK from 2003-2013:

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alison-banks/2a/b7b/256 (http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alison-banks/2a/b7b/256)

But on the SALPOV UK website, she is still listed as a current trainer.:

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alison-banks/2a/b7b/256 (http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alison-banks/2a/b7b/256)

And Alison's own website describes her as a current trainer as well:

http://www.brilliantself.com/about-the-trainers/ (http://www.brilliantself.com/about-the-trainers/)

Curious.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 09, 2014, 01:34:48 am
Oops, here's the SALPOV UK link. Apologies:

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 13, 2014, 05:30:50 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano card trick for today--

Quote
HEALING THE GREEDY STORY
HEALING THE GREEDY STORY
is the card for today. Greed is a trap of humanity where we hope something outside us will complete us and make us happy. Only the happiness that comes from within is lasting. Outside happiness comes and goes…Ask how many Idols of greed you have…how have they affected your life? (All idols bring pain and grievances and there is no problem that doesn't have a grievance at its root.) Be willing to let these idols go so they can be replaced with grace that really will make a difference…Have a breakthrough day!!

Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/12/healing-greedy-story.html
 (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/12/healing-greedy-story.html)

Now compare that card with this--

Quote
Private Coaching with Chuck Spezzano

A rare opportunity for a private coaching session with Chuck Spezzano while he’s in the UK

Chuck Spezzano is available for private coaching sessions while he is in the UK in April and July 2014.

His fee is £700 per hourly session.

http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250 (http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/?doing_wp_cron=1386393942.3412690162658691406250)

£700 converts to $1100 USD. Per hour!!!

Someone is suffering from a "split mind."
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 17, 2014, 04:40:27 am
We note that Basler Psi-Verein has recently added some Charles Lee Spezzano Youtubes to their video library. This Zurich-based group appears to be very interested in parapsychology and New Age theology.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PsiVerein/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/PsiVerein/videos)

Included among the many presenters are-- Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, Alberto Villodo (who has his own NAFPS Fraud thread), and a large number of lesser knowns. Topics such as psychic healing, talking to the dead, shamans, enlightenment, etc. are discussed. Spezzano belongs with this group. Notice he is never counted among bibliographies or Youtubes of professionally respected or academic psychologists in spite of the "sciency" or "research" blather he spouts. Instead, he gets grouped with the New Age crowd.

The Spezzano Basler Psi-Verein videos all have this intro--

Quote
Dr. Chuck Spezzano hat einen Magister in Soziologie und erwarb seinen Doktortitel in Klinischer Psychologie in San Diego, Kalifornien. Von 1973 bis 1979 war er als Psychologe am "United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center" tätig und erzielte beachtliche Erfolge bei der Behandlung der Kriegstraumata von Vietnam-Veteranen. Anschließend arbeitete er in der Paar- und Familienberatung. In über dreißig Jahren intensiver Arbeit und Forschung entwickelte er zusammen mit seiner Frau Lency die bahnbrechende therapeutische Heilmethode der "Psychologie der Vision®", die Verbindung der klassischen Psychologie mit spirituellen Prinzipien. Sie führt die Menschen über innerpsychische Konfl ikte hinaus zu wahrer Kreativität und einem sinnerfüllten Leben.

My German is not real great, but even I could see Basler Psi-Verein made a huge mistake concerning Spezzano's credentials. Here's a rough translation and I apologize in advance to German readers for my ignorance. I can see that if anyone wants to study Charles Lee Spezzano and SALPOV at all in the future, knowing German is a definite plus, since he seems to be targeting Central Europe more than anywhere else in the last year. Gotta follow the money, y'know.

English speakers are being tossed aside by SALPOV. Most of the new SALPOV propaganda is now being released in German. Those Canadians who have tied their fortunes to this outfit are presently up the creek without a paddle. FN activists would be within their rights to overthrow their leaders who bought into this nonsense and then sue SALPOV for cultural damages since the cult actually extended the RSS nightmare rather than healing it. Can anyone really seriously claim the Spezzanos did anything other than polarize Haida Gwaii? Talk about lack of "Oneness." FN leaders who bought into this are collaborators with a destructive group and they need to be replaced.

Anyway, here's my translation of the above specimen--

Quote
Dr. Chuck Spezzano has a masters degree in sociology and acquired his doctor title in clinical psychology in San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he was active as a psychologist at the “United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center” and obtained considerable successes with the treatment of war trauma of Vietnam veterans. Subsequently, he worked in couples and family consultation. In over thirty years of intensive work and research he developed the innovative therapeutic healing method of the “Psychology of Vision®” together with his wife Lency, using the connection of the classical psychology with spiritual principles. It leads humans across internal-psychological conflict to true creativity and a sense-fulfilled life.

I invite Charles Lee Spezzano to contact Basler Psi-Verein and have this error corrected. Quickly.

Yeah, I know. That'll be the day.

Yes, Spezzano does have a Ph. D., which entitles him to use the prefix of "Dr.," which he does liberally to full marketing advantage, but this is merely an academic title, NOT a medical one. His degree is NOT in clinical psychology. He is NOT a psychologist. His degree is NOT accredited by the American Psychological Association. He cannot claim to fuse "classical psychology" with "spiritual principles" if he has never worked as a professional psychologist. This man is a fraud, which is one of many reasons he has an entire thread devoted to his for-profit corporation on this forum.

I direct the reader to our earlier post concerning Spezzano's lack of credentials and fraudulent presentation of his qualifications--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693)

To our brothers and sisters in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland, please think very hard and do your homework before investing any time or resources into Psychology of Vision. The whole thing is just one big scam run entirely by people with no professional qualifications at all to be performing the services they advertise. It would appear the English-speaking world is quickly getting wise to this grifter operation, so Charles Lee Spezzano is putting most of his energy into bilking you guys. Don't fall for it. By rejecting his medicine shows in Europe you actually help FN here in North America.

So, if you Central Europeans really want to help FN, when it comes to dishing out big bucks as you scan the long list of merchants peddling their New Age wares, I would suggest you "chuck" Spezzano as a contender and find someone else. Rising to positions of artificial importance in his personality cult is a very expensive process. Very expensive. But then, it's all about the money, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U)
 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 19, 2014, 11:41:40 am
Well gang, it has been quite an interesting week for those of us who watch the hermit kingdom of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV), the very-much-for-profit capitalist corporation run by Charles Lee "Chuck" Spezzano and Lenora Kay "Lency" Spezzano.  The sparkle of the coin of the realm is their guiding star.

First, the UK run www.povevents.com website has gone down, right after I linked to it just a few days ago. When/if it comes back up, I wonder if they'll have corrected the fraudulent claims of Charles being an internationally worshipped "psychologist", or continue to cite his outrageous fees of over $1100 an hour, or if they'll update their trainers' status list? The answer will reveal a lot about the character of this cult and if they have learned anything in the last year. Of all the SALPOV websites, this one has been the most disorganised, untimely, misleading, open to lawsuit, arrogant, and the best friend to us critics.

Secondly, the English language version of the Psiram website covering the SALPOV fraudcult is the most academic resource for information on our subject--

https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Psychology_of_Vision)

Just recently someone spent a lot of energy and time attempting to convert this critical minded resource into an infomercial for the Spezzanos--

https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php?title=Psychology_of_Vision&diff=2638&oldid=2575 (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php?title=Psychology_of_Vision&diff=2638&oldid=2575)

Whoever it was he/she seems to have spent quite a bit of effort on reshaping the history of the Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst Healing Metaphors A-Z, the Louise Hay rip-off that blames the victim for all diseases, including Down's Syndrome! But never fear, there is no licensed psychologist in Hawaii named Charles Lee Spezzano, nor a registered nurse in British Columbia named Janie Ticehurst (I checked). These are pretend professionals. The Spezzano/Ticehurst Healing Keys is quackery promoted by two utterly unqualified people. There is a reason they ran and hid under a rock, making their "Keys" available exclusively via an online gated community to only the true believers.

Just because, let us revisit the Spezzano/Ticehurst take on Down's Syndrome in order to demonstrate just how culturally and racially sensitive and professional the Charles Lee Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst team was in their Healing Metaphors A-Z partnership--

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Down's Syndrome

Down’s syndrome is a congenital abnormality (one that is present at birth). It is the result of having an extra chromosome in our genetic make-up, usually number 21 or 22.

Down’s causes moderate to severe mental retardation, oriental appearance of eyes, flat nose or absent bridge of nose, a single palmer [sic] crease on a short broad hand and a dwarfed body.

If we have Down’s syndrome, it means that we have come to learn some lessons at a soul level. We are here to seek soul fulfillment and the completion of a cycle, yet we are stuck in the transition between the old level and the new.

The two main soul lessons of Down’s syndrome are correcting over-willfulness and giving up the ego’s plan in exchange for heaven’s plan.

Y'know, I have had some medical and social work experience with Down's Syndrome people, albeit at a low level position, and I find this characterization to be evil and/or the product of incredible ignorance.  Yet the Healing Keys remains a cornerstone of SALPOV theology, although Lenora Kay Spezzano has basically slammed the Healing Keys in her Truth screed when she said, "Healing the emotional conflict certainly doesn’t hurt a person’s chances of healing physically, and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that it is helpful, but we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims."

The would-be reviser also took pains to tinker with the section regarding FN. Anyway, take a look at the Psiram attempted revisions, scratch your head, and wonder.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on December 29, 2014, 08:43:41 am
Thanks to Steve for pointing us to the various changes effected to the Psiram article on PoV. I had a closer look at the deletions and additions made: in some cases, the most interesting aspect is not which changes were made, but what was left untouched. Some of the deletions effected also speak quite loudly re what seems to be considered unfavourable aspects by PoV, or at least by the person reverting the article who quite clearly is a friend of the Spezzanos. I shall therefore call him 'Mr Friend' here.


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Ms Spezzano has furthermore developed "Joining" which sometimes is described as "PoV's mystical path".

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Ms Spezzano has furthermore developed a technique called "Joining", an empathic healing method aimed to raise a persons awareness to a higher state of mind, which sometimes is described as "PoV's mystical path".

Mr Friend is using a clearly Nuage line of argumentation – 'a healing method raising awareness to a higher state of mind'. To all others, this description is quite meaningless gibberish, denoting that PoV is among those Nuage (and other) organisations aiming at the creation of 'super-humans' with more abilities than us belonging to the sorry rest. [sarcasm off]


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A licence as a psychologist of whatever specialisation cannot be verified for the state of Hawaii.
This sentence was deleted.
It is, however, a fact, even if Mr Friend does not happen to like it: Spezzano never obtained a licence valid for the state of Hawaii.


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In his biography, Spezzano repeatedly mentions to have come into contact with various methods and techniques promoted on the Newage markets, in particular in the fields of commercial life-counseling and self-optimising, and integrated methods and concepts encountered there into his own concept.

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In his biography, Spezzano repeatedly mentions to have come into contact with various methods and techniques often found in spiritual and healing pathways, in particular in the fields of life-coaching and self awareness, and integrated methods and concepts encountered into his own model.

This is one of the 'interesting' reverts: Apparently, it is considered far more important to delete terms like 'Newage', 'commercial', 'self-optimising' – the fact, however, that Spezzano integrated ideas copied from other Nuage methods remained untouched.
It is, on the other hand, somewhat amusing that, in this sentence, Mr Friend seems to mind the term 'commercial', since he confirms that PoV is a commercial enterprise (plus a therapy plus a 'major religion') further down in his modifications.


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These books are being promoted by Spezzano giving lectures e.g. at Newage congresses in Europe. In February 2013, he did a seminar during the Basel Psi Days in Switzerland, an established annual congress which is being organised by Basel Psi Association since years.

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These books are promoted by Spezzano giving lectures. In February 2013, he did a seminar during the Basel Psi Days in Switzerland, an established annual congress which is being organised by Basel Psi Association since years.

Same here: while a mention of 'Newage congresses' got deleted, Mr Friend apparently does not mind mentioning the Basel Psi Days, probably without realising that once the term 'Psi' gets mentioned, adding 'Nuage' becomes slightly redundant...


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However, some of the diseases the authors recommend to be treated with their set of keys are severe and patients suffering from such diseases should rather go to see an MD

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However, some of the diseases the authors recommend to be treated with their set of keys are severe and criticism has been made that patients suffering from such diseases should rather go to see an MD

Oh? So in fact this criticism has been raised not only by NAFPS and Psiram, I take it? Perhaps Mr Friend could be convinced to tell us who else criticised the approach taken in Healing Keys?

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This approach clearly lays the blame for a disease on the diseased who is responsible for it.

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This approach clearly lays the responsibility for a disease on the person who is trying to heal it, thus empowering and transforming that person from a victim to that of a healing attitide [sic].

Nice attempt, Mr Friend, but invalid all the same. The main statement remains rather ineffected by the revert: it is the individual who gets the blame, just that PoV prefers to hide this behind the term 'responsibility' and some more Nuage garbage smoke-screen terms. Perhaps the typo indicates that Mr Friend was getting a little nervous here, as he is well aware that PoV doesn't 'transform' anybody *from a victim, but rather into a victim.


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The authors constantly lay the blame for disease and handicap onto the individual who is held responsible, and promise healing to be possible with their "healing keys".

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The authors constantly shift responsibility for disease and handicap onto the individual who is held accountable for their own choices, and the miracle of healing to be possible with their "healing keys".

This is pretty revealing. How can a handicapped person be handicapped out of their own choice? Did they apply e.g. for a congenital handicap or disease to be born with? Did they queue up e.g. to be sure to pick up their share of bacteria or viruses to catch cholera, polio, the flu? Did they really *want* to be run over by a drunk driver and lose a limb or end up in a wheelie? Such an attitude as displayed by the authors is cruel, cynical, and of help to nobody – except for he authors Spezzano and Ticehurst cashing in on this garbage, provided they can find victims listening to them. 


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Psychology of Vision, however, is no scientifically recognised method or therapy, and the Spezzano's never submitted this method to scientific journals to obtain peer reviews.

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Psychology of Vision, as with all major religions, has no scientifically recognised method or therapy, and the Spezzano's not surprisingly never submitted this method to scientific journals to obtain peer reviews.

May we really trust our eyes here? Mr Friend is comparing PoV to a religion? Even a major one?
Although just a bit further down, Mr Friend reverted a sentence to this version: „... PoV is a commercial enterprise, as well as a therapy.“
So we learn that PoV is no therapy, it's a religion, but nevertheless it's a commercial enterprise and a therapy. Could you probably make up your mind, Mr Friend? (Or perhaps you better didn't – it's so much fun reading your blunders.)

On the other hand: a commercial enterprise, a therapy, and a religion – now, what does this remind us of? Anybody said 'Scientology'? Thnx.

But seriously – PoV a 'major religion'? Please, don't make us laugh so hard, Mr Friend, it's endangering our knickers. Do you really, really believe PoV can match the approx 2plus billion Christians in this world, or nearly 2 billions of Muslims? Come off it, your sorry outfit PoV couldn't even come up with enough trainers and students to populate the Vatican if the Catholic church was to close shop tomorrow.

On the other hand – what does one call a group promoting a religion outside of established denomination? A cult? So we might as well assume we have it on good authority (i.e. Mr Friend's) that PoV in fact is a cult. And what's more: that being a cult is exactly what they strive for.


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Furthermore, with the exception of the above mentioned thesis, there are no scientific publications by either Chuck or Lency Spezzano traceable.

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Furthermore, with the exception of the above mentioned thesis, there are no scientific publications by either Chuck or Lency Spezzano.

Mr Friend, I'm afraid that with friends like you, the Spezzanos don't exactly need enemies. But I suppose the colleagues over at Psiram will be grateful for your confirmation of this fact, too, since they carefully said there weren't such publications traceable. Now we know: there aren't any, save your time looking for them. Nice one, Mr Friend, definitely a nice one.

So from this modification we learn: neither Charles nor Lenora waisted any time writing scientific publications. They're too busy fleecing their students and trainers.


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Since Psychology of Vision has never received any peer review and scientific recognition, the efficacy or, for that matter, the ethical standards of the method(s) employed have also never been established and are not controlled.

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Since Psychology of Vision has never received any peer review and scientific recognition, the efficacy or, for that matter, the ethical standards of the method(s) employed have also never been established and are not controlled by any mainstream science faculty.

Oh well. Do you, Mr Friend, really mean to imply PoV was controlled by any non-mainstream science faculty? There aren't any, just charlatans and quacks fleecing the gullible. You can also call this the CAM sector, but then again, you also don't like the term 'CAM', Complementary and Alternative Medicine. And since you were just telling us PoV was a religion, you shouldn't have touched this addition with a ten-foot pole...


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Combining an alleged healing model with a global community does not quite reflect a scientific approach or method, but reminds of a cult. The claim of tens of thousands having already been „helped“ (not healed, apparently) remains unsubstantiated and must be viewed as a mere sales pitch.

These sentences were deleted. We learn that PoV does not like to be reminded they are no science, but a cult, and that they are using sales pitches.


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This diction, employing commercial vocabulary instead of scientific terms, clearly points out PoV is a commercial enterprise, not a therapy.

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This diction, employing commercial vocabulary instead of scientific terms, clearly points out PoV is a commercial enterprise, as well as a therapy.

A commercial enterprise as well as a therapy. Says Mr Friend. Do the Spezzanos need enemies?

The funny thing is that all of a sudden, PoV becomes a therapy again, when it just had been declared a religion. Can we please make up our mind, Mr Friend? Okay, so we did get established PoV is a commercial enterprise. It's out to make money. To cash in from vulnerable persons seeking help. This has been said by NAFPS and Psiram all the time. But regardless of your wishful thinking, Mr Friend, PoV is no therapy. It never was, and never will be one.

On the other hand, Mr Friend does not dispute the attributed lack of scientific terms with PoV. Thanks for another confirmation. Do the Spezzanos need enemies?


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All workshops and seminars offered, however, are subject to a fee. Even so-called "info evenings" for the acquisition of more customers and providing an introduction to PoV, as are organised in the German-language areas, require the purchase of an entrance ticket at € 30 ...

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All workshops and seminars offered, however, are subject to a fee. Even so-called "info evenings" to provide an introduction to PoV, are organised in the German-language areas, and require the purchase of an entrance ticket at € 30 ...

Mr Friend apparently belongs to the persons thoroughly brainwashed by PoV, as he cannot detect anything wrong with people („friends“) having to cough up € 30 in entrance fees if and when they want to be helped by friends... This also reveals that 'friendship' within this PoV church / therapy / commercial enterprise is no immaterial value but viewed as a commodity. Thinking of PoV students and trainers, one is tempted to add: „Poor sods“.

Mr Friend is also wrong in claiming these info evenings were only organised in Germany – they are e.g. also organised in Canada where, at least to my modest knowledge, German is no official language.


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While many advertisements avoid mentioning seminar fees, there is some information available. In Great Britain, a three-day seminar with one or both of the Spezzanos costs GBP 1,100 (USD 1,763), for another one, the regular price is GBP 800 (USD 1,282). With e.g. an audience of 50 participants, this adds to a receipts of USD 88,150 resp. USD 64,100.

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In Great Britain, a three-day seminar with one or both of the Spezzanos costs GBP 1,100 (USD 1,763), for another one, the regular price is GBP 300 (USD 500).

So Mr Friend takes exception at Psiram's choice of price tags mentioned. Of course it does sound somewhat more modest, chosing a seminar with a fee of 'only' GBP 300 over one of GBP 800. And of course Mr Friend is somewhat reluctant to do the arithmetics to provide a figure for the receipts for such a seminar, so he deleted that sentence completely.

Anyways, it does not make all that much of a difference whether Spezzano cashes in USD 64,100 or USD 25,000 – bearing in mind he'll receive this amount for giving his audience loads of BS and hot air plus doing some dirty talking on top of that. We remember: Lency claims he can't help that... - although I always thought the job description of a 'church' leader was somewhat different, but probably he mistakingly studied the job description for a cult leader.


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Participation in PoV therefore will be quite expensive for the individual, and may result in persons running into debt. Especially when non-affluent persons are being targeted, as is the case in Canada, this may have detrimental effects not only on families but entire communities.

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Participation in PoV therefore will be quite expensive for the individual.

Nice one. Did I wonder before whether the Spezzanos may be in dire need of enemies?

Thanks, Mr Friend, for confirming PoV will be quite expensive for the individual. 


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The 2014 10-day Mastery seminar will again take place in Hawaii, with 100-Day graduates facing a fee of US$ 4,000.

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The 2014 10-day Mastery seminar will again take place in Hawaii, with 100-Day graduates representing a fee of US$ 4,000.

Mr Friend seems to be getting his undies in a twist, so he deletes a nasty word like 'facing' with the term 'representing'. Who cares about grammar and making sense in the very first place?


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Additionally, participants apparently are prompted to proselytise among family and friends, and are baited with the prospect of becoming "leaders".

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Additionally, participants apparently are prompted to proselytise among family and friends, and are encouraged with the prospect of becoming "leaders".

Another revert in which Mr Friend was so preoccupied with getting rid of a cheeky word that he did not pay attention to the sentence. Thus, he confirms that participants are in fact expected to proselytise. Or perhaps Mr Friend does not know 5-Dollar-words? Google is your friend, Mr Friend:
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/proselytise?s=t
Did we happen to previously raise the question whether the Spezzanos need enemies?

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on December 29, 2014, 08:54:02 am
Part II

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If managers or owners recruited by PoV are prompted to run their enterprise according to PoV rules and techniques, this may negatively effect their business operations, as is known from cases in which companies were reorganised according to Scientology standing orders.

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If managers or owners recruited by PoV are prompted to run their enterprise according to PoV principles and techniques, this may effect their business operations, as is known from cases in which companies were reorganised according to Scientology standing orders <citation needed>.

Interesting that Mr Friend took refuge to a lame „citation needed“.
In Europe, where the activities of Scientology were and are viewed critically (so e.g. Scientology is/was watched by security services, several court verdicts have been issued against them), there have been various reports of cases in which companies applying the so-called 'technology', either due to owner(s) or CEOs having been recruited by Scientology and, due to various factors connected to Scientology (one of them substantial payments to Scientology or its front organisations being expected on a regular monthly basis), went bankrupt. Some companies owned by well-known high-ranking German scientology members were among those running into difficulties and going insolvent. During the 1980s and 1990s, the prefered branches of trades for Scientology were real estate, business consultancy, financial consultancy, investment counseling, IT, coaching, later on they added coaching companies for students in primary and secondary education which were also opened up by Scientology members.


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When speaking of dissolving conflicts and anger as they emerge, the programme seems to aim at suppressing conflict and anger rather than providing or teaching adequate methods to deal with and solve them in acceptable ways, or ways to cope with frustration. This eventually will not lead to an improved feeling of cohesion, but to such issues being suppressed and covered up in an atmosphere of reinforced superficial and pretended smiles.

Deleted by Mr Friend who probably views himself an expert in pedagogics, psychology, sociology etc. Or does not like too much criticism of PoV, or in this case PoV offshoot VisionWorks (the PoV programme for teachers, students, and entire schools), to be voiced.


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The language used bears one striking resemblance to Scientology's redefinitions when differing views are to be "handled".

You might have guessed – sentence deleted. Although Mr Friend himself declares PoV a „major religion“ (which is what Scientology would like to make us believe about them, too), he views further comparisons as somewhat embarrassing. In fact, many websites and other publication educating the public about Scientology explicitely mention this was one pretty certain aspect to spot a Scientologist or Scientology-infested company: their use of 'handling problems' or persons.


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Students exposed to such procedures will not learn to cope with pluralism, or learn to seek solutions in case of conflicting interests. The course therefore may be quite detrimental to providing students with adequate knowledge and social abilities for their future lives in a democratic society.

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Students exposed to such procedures will not learn to cope with pluralism, or learn to seek solutions in case of conflicting interests. This is however on one way to deal with such issues and therefore cannot be a significant method to judge "all" methodology by.

Another paragraph which caused Mr Friend's knickers to get entangled. So much so that the sentence he substituted is far from making sense. His foremost aim apparently is damage control. Too bad he's not too good at this.

Mr Friend also completely deleted the second sentence: „The course therefore may be quite detrimental to providing students with adequate knowledge and social abilities for their future lives in a democratic society.“ Actually, European schools – why, even schools in Germany, believe it or not, are expected to provide students with adäquate knowledge and social abilities for their future lives in a democratic society. These are basic and central objectives in education. Therefore, methods endangering these objectives or thwarting them will actually make these methods, and their vendors and proponents, a matter of increased interest to the various European law enforcement authorities and secret services. In particular in Germany, where we – as is well known – already had our share of „Today Chrrrmoney, tomorrow ze vorld“.


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So apart from their exposure to Psychology of Vision (with for some trainers is said to be more than 20 years, in one case since the 1980ies), none of the trainers is a trained psychologist.

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So apart from their exposure to Psychology of Vision (with for some trainers is said to be more than 20 years, in one case since the 1980's), none of the trainers is a trained psychologist apart from the training received by PoV.

Another lame one. Mr Friend, PoV does not provide any 'psychological training'. Your guru in all his modesty just claims the title of a mere coach and cannot train any person in psychology – he's simply not qualified.

Apart from that: in your indignation, Mr Friend, you failed to see that the sentence already starts with „apart from their exposure to PoV“, so what you entered is a bit of a redundancy. What in the world happened to these 'higher levels of awareness' induced by PoV, or Joining, or whatever? (Quick, Mr Friend, go and book a few more sessions with Ms Lenora, and the next 10-day seminar on a Honolulu port-a-potty, willya.)


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Some apply further Newage methods, like Hawaiian bodywork, [[kinesiology]], or waterbalancing. Others claim to have participated in self-awareness and healing seminars, were into indigenous spirituality and have e.g. participated in Sun Dances, or were a student of A Course in Miracles.

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Some apply further Newage methods, like Hawaiian bodywork, [[kinesiology]] <citation needed>. Others claim to have participated in self-awareness and healing seminars, were into indigenous spirituality or were a student of A Course in Miracles.


Oh, Mr Friend does not like to see the term 'waterbalancing'. It's 'balancing', Mr Friend – not 'water boarding' … He got so upset about the waterbalancing he even did not pay enough attention to delete the term 'Newage'. Another aspect worrying Mr Friend is the participation in Sun Dances that some German language PoV trainers mention. Anything wrong with that to your mind all of a sudden?
Mr Friend is also worried about a missing citation. Well, I had a look – guess which website this can be found on.

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Apart from these, most, if not all PoV trainers run their own business, selling PoV-based seminars and workshops either exclusively or accompanied by various other Newage and or CAM methods.

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Apart from these, most, if not all PoV trainers run their own business, selling PoV-based seminars and workshops either exclusively or accompanied by various other healing methods.

Not that we needed more proof of it: Mr Friend does not like the terms Newage and CAM. Unfortunately, what the trainers are selling are not healing methods – they won't heal anything. With the exception of their own financial situation, most probably.


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The Canadian branch merits a closer look, as there are noteworthy differences as compared to the other branches. One is its focus on Steps-to-Leadership Programmes and, therefore, a business clientele.

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The Canadian focusses on Steps-to-Leadership Programmes and, therefore, a business clientele.

Mr Friend seems to be convinced that deleting half a sentence from an article will change facts. Now, have I got some surprise for you, Mr Friend... What remained, however, was the statement that the Canadian PoV branch focuses on Steps-to-Leadership Programmes and a business clientele. So we see this statement is not disputed. 


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These converts are then expected to proselytise among families, friends, and nations.

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These recruits are then expected to proselytise among families, friends, and nations.

This is getting slightly inconsistent, isn't it. The Psiram article used the term 'converts' which is also applied in a religious context, so Mr Friend should be chuffed enough with this term, given he believes PoV was a 'major religion'. But he isn't. He replaced it by the term 'recruit', also used in the military, or for employees of a company.


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Reading the text carefully, it seems this fund only applies to cost of accomodation and food, not to course fees:

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Reading the text carefully, it seems this fund only applies to cost of accomodation and food, not to course fees although free seminars have been donated by PoV to first nations participants.

This is probably where he colleagues of Psiram would have thrown a „citation needed“ at Mr Friend.... As far as I can see, all we get is claims by PoV to have provided free seminars to ndn participants, but no proof this in fact did happen. Psiram probably was not too pleased with Mr Friend entering a spelling glitch ('first nations') into their article. An indication of what Mr Friend thinks of indigenous persons? Inquiring minds would like to know.


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This wording rather insinuates a funding of course fees as well, although it does not exactly advertise this, and this is not the only instance the different sections of the site provide contradicting information. The differences in figures mentioned for graduates and trainers in the English and German versions are also interesting and do not get explained by PoV.

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This wording also implies a funding of course fees.

Mr Friend seems to have got carried away somewhat here. So we take it that the difference in figures mentioned in the English and German versions of the PoV site causes some embarrassment over at PoV, as he deleted this. This seems to be a case of not handing out clear instructions to the underlings (as in: use my figures to avoid embarrassment), but as an old German wisdom has it: A fish starts smelling from its head down ...


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The German Trainers' Manual contains a section K informing about the Fund which has been left out entirely in the English version of the Trainers' Manual.

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The German Trainers' Manual contains a section informing about the Fund which has been left out entirely in the English version of the Trainers' Manual.

Mr Friend does not like Psiram readers to know that it is section K which is included in the German version, but left out in the English version of the Trainers' Manual. Makes one wonder. And think.


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The Manual provides guidelines here in mentioning that applicants may assert they are going to introduce PoV methods to their tribal elders and traditional representatives, within their families and communities, and to introduce their superiors within tribal managements and administration structures to PoV and PoV methods, prompting them to book seminars and apply PoV themselves within personal life and work environment. The applicants' success is then controled through compulsory quarterly reports.

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The Manual provides guidelines here in mentioning that applicants may assert they are going to introduce PoV methods to their tribal elders and traditional representatives, within their families and communities, and to introduce their superiors within management principles and administration structures to PoV and PoV methods, prompting them to book seminars and apply PoV themselves within personal life and work environment. The applicants' success is then maintained through compulsory quarterly reports.

Once again Mr Friend's eagerness causes him to put his foot in his mouth, as his modification „introduce their superiors within management principles“ doesn't make sense. It is quite interesting though that the entire rest of the paragraph goes undebated and thus is confirmed by Mr Friend.

So our colleagues over at Psiram and we here at NAFPS may safely state that PoV trainer applicants are made to infect – errm, sorry: introduce their social and professional environments with PoV garbage, urge them to book seminars, and in turn apply PoV in their social and professional environments, too. It has also been confirmed that applicants' success in proselytising will be controlled by quarterly reports.


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Since then, Ngystle Society continues to promote PoV seminars as well as further Newage products and treatments, in particular an [[Amethyst Bio-Mat]] and a device named [[Trinfinity8]] for a variety of uses ranging from rejuvenation to pain relief and as a treatment of diseases.

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Since then, Ngystle Society continues to promote seminars as well as further Newage products and treatments, in particular an [[Amethyst Bio-Mat]] and a device named [[Trinfinity8]] for a variety of uses ranging from rejuvenation to pain relief and as a treatment of diseases.

Some more damage control. May we assume Ngystle Society fell from grace, then? Even so much that Mr Friend gives a flying one about undesirable terms like 'Newage', as long as they apply to Ngystle, that is.


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Another way in which First Nations are being targeted are additional attempts to sell charlatan products and healing methods not evidence-based.

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Another way in which First Nations are being targeted are additional attempts to sell products and healing methods.

Another attempt of damage control by putting a foot in his mouth. Mr Friend wants to make Psiram readers believe that of course their trainees do not sell charlatan products and that all healing methods they sell were evidence-based. Of course, this is rhubarb to begin with, and this is already pointed out in the Psiram article.

On the other hand, Mr Friend overlooked the term 'targeted'. Why would endeavours to sell products and healing methods to First Nations merit the term 'targeting', provided these were reputable products and reliable methods?


Mr Friend also modified the Psiram article by replacing the Spezzanos' names by a fond and familiar „Chuck“ and/or „Lency“ and/or „Chuck and Lency“, thus baring his modifications from any trace of objectivity. Given the time his modifications were posted (5:50 a.m.), my guess is that Mr Friend in fact happens to be Julian Ticehurst who registered here as „Jask“. Didn't Ticehurst claim he wasn't involved with PoV anymore? In fact this is another characteristic employed by many cults: lying to outsiders. Scientology does it, the Moonies do it, etc. Members even are encouraged to tell convenient lies if the truth may be somewhat unfortunate to admit, even if already revealed by 'outsiders'.

So the modifications provided by Mr Friend (aka Ticehurst?) rather point out that PoV may indeed have begun its transformation into a fully blown cult.

And thanks for all the info provided, Mr Friend.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 03, 2015, 04:13:08 pm
Pt. 1

There were two spinoff groups from the Spezzanos cult midway through the first decade of Century 21 that are worthy of note, Gaia Mind and the Center for Aboriginal Healing and Vision. And both of them have the same person in common-- the Canadian born Michael James North. He is a very unique figure in our investigations. 

We get more questions than answers as we look into these two spinoffs.

Gaia Mind appeared to be an attempt, somewhat behind the curve, to exploit the New Age Gaia worship fad that became popular in the 1990s. The earliest website incarnation of this Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) spinoff that I can find is from June 2003. It had this introduction:

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Gaia is a new online program from Psychology of Vision. She is the new home of Light Bytes and an interactive members website.

Gaia is the goddess of the earth and the feminine voice of spirit

To learn more about the purpose, background and future of this program:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030618094424/http://www.gaia-mind.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20030618094424/http://www.gaia-mind.com/)

Then you go to the next link and find this:

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Gaia

Listen to Chuck's Latest Light Byte on the vision of Gaia

Light Bytes and The Call of Gaia by Chuck Spezzano

Gaia is a voice, a touch, and an embrace-- a way we can all receive the healing, uplifting power we need in our lives.

Decades of loving work with thousands of people around the world have been distilled into a new personality, a new living form. Here you can listen, read, respond and discuss, reflect, and tune up your intuition: re-connect with your true purpose in life.

Gaia is an ever-changing personality that will become more real to all of us as we hear her voice, feel her touch, and experience her embrace. A small subscription fee helps to keep this work emerging fresh each day.

To discover the different ways you can connect with Gaia: Voice, Touch and Embrace

Explore More

Chuck's Original Byte Me ! - Chuck's Vision of the Gaia project

http://web.archive.org/web/20030621200120/http://www.gaia-mind.com/4GMHome.asp (http://web.archive.org/web/20030621200120/http://www.gaia-mind.com/4GMHome.asp)

Then the next link gets down to business, where the plate is passed among the flock:

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I would like to share with you some of the ideas that we have had about the future of all the Light Bytes. Besides continuing to amplify the Light Bytes by including shorter, daily messages, we would like to grow all of its subcategories. We would like to build up this part of the website and make it much more sophisticated and interactive.

We eventually plan to make a whole games area that will have the 1800 plus cards that I use to map the mind and human experience. These cards can be used in all manner of layouts, from problem solving, information, entertainment, and finding the hidden blocks.

Besides the use of the cards we'll be building up a database of healing information, principles and techniques so that there can be a self-healing program at beginning, intermediate and more advanced or spiritual levels. The database we build up will eventually be coupled with an artificial intelligence. We will call this healing interactive database 'Gaia' and we hope to make it both visionary and profound in it's scope and effectiveness. We have been investing our vision, time, expertise, money and creativity to build this whole area of the website. We now offer you the opportunity to become a charter member of Gaia with us.

While the cost is minimal it will allow you, as a charter member, to have the most substantial savings on all future interactive programs that Gaia will provide. We will invest all of this money into building Gaia so we can accelerate the pace of creative production. Charter members will enjoy all the benefits of Gaia without any rise in subscription fees for a good while.

Our vision is to create Gaia to help people resolve what holds them back, bring about blessed change and increase success and love in the world. We want Gaia to be evolutionary, to teach, to bring about a world based on partnership and relatedness with all of the success and intimacy that this brings.

So we are converting our Light Bytes into a subscription service. If you would like to join us in this adventure in healing and consciousness, sign up on June 1st. Please hit the button at that time on the side that says Byte Me!. If you don't wish to sign up you still will receive our monthly subscription service and a weekly Light Byte. The first 500 people to sign up will receive a cd of the Light Byte hits of the first 6 months.

We invite you to join us as a charter member of Gaia building the world through consciousness and love.

Warmest Aloha
Chuck

http://web.archive.org/web/20030713114157/http://www.gaia-mind.com/4GMOrigByteMe.asp (http://web.archive.org/web/20030713114157/http://www.gaia-mind.com/4GMOrigByteMe.asp)

Yup, as usual with SALPOV, it's all about the money and promoting the cult. The website includes a front and center link to the Chuck Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst Healing Metaphors Louise Hay ripoff, illustrating what a central part this blame-the-victim work has been in SALPOV theology for over a decade. Also there are links to the many SALPOV retail products and workshops. The 3-card reading was around even back then playing off of a behaviour exhibited by the gullible known as "confirmation bias." Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, as Paul Simon wrote.

The most priceless module on Gaia was the cross-website access to the SALPOV forums. These people really operate in their own snowglobe and I must grudgingly admire the thoroughness of the Spezzano brainwashing skills. I particularly enjoyed the discussions regarding "joining" with political leaders like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, and Saddam Hussein in order to improve the world. Apparently these efforts failed. From what I can see Cheney is still a mean old bastard who will never apologize for lying to the world and creating a needless war causing untold human suffering. But I am sure the act of "Joining" made the SALPOV cult followers feel much better about themselves.

Turns out this "Joining with World Leaders" earned a webpage all by itself. After viewing this it is difficult to keep a straight face when the Spezzanos attempt to present themselves as professionals in the field of psychology:


http://web.archive.org/web/20030408031944/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/worldleaders.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20030408031944/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/worldleaders.htm)

It would appear the Gaia Mind, or Gaia Project ended in December 2006 as a distinct entity, although many of its facets were absorbed into the already existing SALPOV main website.

http://web.archive.org/web/20061202190617/http://www.gaia-mind.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20061202190617/http://www.gaia-mind.com/)

SALPOV really has some very defined chapters, and I suppose this 2003-2006 Gaia experiment could be regarded as such. Interesting this Gaia deal ended in 2006, since as we all know the next chapter was an even bigger one which resulted in being of half of the Spezzanos "two greatest inspirations." I am making reference to the 2007-201? SALPOV love affair with Oneness University and Amma and Bhagavan, documented in detail here on NAFPS.

So how did Gaia Mind start? In an introduction to a book he wrote in 2005, Spezzano thanks his team at www.gaia-mind.com: Julian Ticehurst, Michael North, Ian Haugh and Lency Spezzano.

The Akama website offers an intriguing quote from a source long since lost to URL rot:

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Gaia Mind

    416 Waihee Pl # 47
    Kaneohe, Hawaii
    96744

We gathered in Kaneohe, Hawaii for three days in a row, upstairs in a sunny converted barn, aided by the commentary of geckos outside, the scent of gardenias, and the distant sound of waves. We talked for several hours each day Chuck and Lency Spezzano, Ian Haugh and Michael North. Anyone who knows Chuck and Lency will laugh at the idea that you could have a purely business meeting with them after 10 minutes, we were down (or up) into fundamental questions of life, purpose and the mystery of time.

http://www.akama.com/company/Gaia_Mind_a34382162120.html (http://www.akama.com/company/Gaia_Mind_a34382162120.html)

Interestingly, Gaia Mind does not turn up in any official Hawaiian corporations searches. Since it was a .com website and was marketing retail New Age spirituality, it could not be considered a nonprofit either.

The presence of Ticehurst and Haugh makes sense. Both of them were active in SALPOV as trainers and in fact were actual employees of the SALPOV corporation at one time. But the name of the mysterious Michael North raises my interest. Quite awhile back Piff had outlined some of the Spezzano/North connections:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35969;topicseen#msg35969 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35969;topicseen#msg35969)

North, an active and apparently successful hi-tech capitalist, has an impressive résumé on LinkedIn. However, one of his entries says he was an "advisor" for Psychology of Vision UK from 2004-2010, which sits there like a wart on an otherwise honorable roster of accomplishments.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth)

North also co-manages the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute, and Charles Lee Spezzano serves on the Board of Directors. Lenora Kay Spezzano serves as a member of the Advisory Board. North's wife, Xiao Fang North (aka Ruby Zhou), is distantly related to Zhou Enlai. She calls Zhou Enlai her great-uncle.

http://www.zhouenlaipeaceinstitute.org/en/contact/participants/ (http://www.zhouenlaipeaceinstitute.org/en/contact/participants/)

I'm sure such a connection probably doesn't hurt as the Spezzanos want to gain more paying customers from China, although Lenora has demonstrated in her writings that she regards the Chinese as spiritually inferior ("They are keen to get enlightened, but their level of maturity is low.") That good ol' American Manifest Destiny is pretty deeply ingrained, I'd say.

http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity (http://enlightenmentdotcom.ning.com/forum/topics/self-annihilation-process-is-leading-people-to-enlightenment?xg_source=activity)

Aside from the section where that old war criminal Henry Kissinger is lionized, and Spezzano is erroneously called a "psychologist," and the presence of the Spezzanos at all, Michael and Xiao Fang North's website as an attempt to work with China is a worthy international goal. There is no question Zhou Enlai was one of the most brilliant and progressive leaders in Mao's China. Here is a softball discussion with the Norths conducted by a friendly interviewer, but it remains interesting and illuminating anyway--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE)

However, it should go without saying that the Institute's practical big-picture efforts have certainly drawn the interest of national security intelligence communities both in China and the United States, and God only knows who else (the Canadian Security Intelligence Service?). In spite of the misrepresentations and human damage caused by the Spezzanos through SALPOV, I would wager these two grizzled grifters have drawn more government attention in their connection with North than through their nefarious behaviour in their for-profit New Age cult. What an ironic twist of Fate.

The question of who is the user and who being used is a valid query when it comes to the North/Spezzano connection. What exactly is the North interest in SALPOV? How did it start? Is North still active with SALPOV in any way today? And if not, why not? Have there been any financial transactions in this relationship? When the Spezzanos jumped into Oneness University in 2007, did North come along for the ride? Where does Xiao Fang fit in?

When Spezzano was presented with his "Hero of Forgiveness" award in 2012, North was right there. But North's presence in SALPOV has all but vanished from public view since then. Why?

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/08/accomplishments.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2012/08/accomplishments.html)

On the occasion of this award The Hawai'i Free Press wryly noted Spezzano's personal consulting fee:

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($1000/hr private coaching sessions for fools not yet parted from their money. If you don’t pay, will he ‘forgive’ your debt?)

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesDailyNews/tabid/65/ID/7330/July-28-2012-News-Read.aspx (http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesDailyNews/tabid/65/ID/7330/July-28-2012-News-Read.aspx)

Oh, but this gets murkier, and has stronger implications for regular readers of this forum--

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 03, 2015, 04:15:49 pm
Pt. 2

The Center for Aboriginal Healing and Vision was registered as a Domestic Nonprofit Corporation in Hawaii on January 17, 2003, the same year as the creation of Gaia Mind, evidently. The three officers were the Spezzanos and Michael North. The purpose of this nonprofit was presented as "MEETINGS, NETWORKING, HEALING WORKSHOPS." The nonprofit filed annual reports for 2004, 2005, and 2006, but then, like Gaia Mind, sort of evaporated by 2007, the same year as the Spezzano embrace of Oneness University and open devotion to Amma and Bhagavan. Interesting, isn't it?

https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=202846D2&view=info (https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=202846D2&view=info)

Anyway, it appears the CAHV was involuntarily dissolved by the government due to lack of activity.

The nonprofit is still listed in the Charity Vault website, which contains a few other details. Love the "governmental unit" reference:

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Contact: CHARLES L SPEZZANO
Employee Identification Number: 481306756
Ruling Date: August 2003
Deductions: Contributions are deductible
Foundation Type: Organization which receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public.
Organization Type: Corporation
Filing Requirement: 990 - Not required to file Form 990 (income less than $25,000). No 990PF return.
Fiscal Year End Date: December
Asset Amount: $0
Income Amount: $0
Form 990 Revenue Amount: $0
Organization Type: Cultural, Ethnic Awareness
Tax Period Begin Date: , 0000
Tax Period End Date: , 0000
http://www.charity-charities.org/charityinfoNF.php?ID=1104503&page=3
 (http://www.charity-charities.org/charityinfoNF.php?ID=1104503&page=3)

This nonprofit didn't exactly set the world on fire. North's website, Mediasense, hosted a document: Declaration of Purpose, public draft for comment, November 2003, offered by Chuck Spezzano, Lency Spezzano, Catherine Richards and Michael North (Catherine Richards appears to be an investment capitalist based in Honolulu. Her connection to this seems peripheral):

http://www.mediasense.com/Center/index.htm (http://www.mediasense.com/Center/index.htm)

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The purpose of the Center is to provide a home in the heart of the Pacific, in which the traditional wisdom of First Nations People can be shared with all the people of the world.

The Center will help the world remember the true relationship between humankind and the Earth, and our authentic relationships with each other.

Principles

Heritage of Wisdom


First Nations People live closest to the source of traditional cultures. They pass on the precious accumulated legacy of human experience, established over thousands of generations of learning and sacrifice. First Nations People endure on all the continents of the world, sometimes in their indigenous villages, sometimes interleaved with the non-traditional world.

The First Nations are guardians of a rich depth of wisdom that has been challenged in the past five centuries by industrial culture. Affirming this common birthright is vital to the survival of the First Nations. It is also vital to those who struggle for human dignity within industrial culture, which has lost touch with its roots, with the earth, and with its vision.

The elders, wise men and women, artists, healers, shamans, poets, teachers, visionaries, musicians and dancers of the First Nations keep this flame alive. They hold an essential key to the future of humanity, and to life on our planet.

Hawaii as a Center of Healing

The traditional Hawaiian people were the first to arrive in the center of the Pacific; they maintain the tradition of aloha (welcome and healing) in trust for America, and for all nations.

Their unique position as stewards of the most isolated and environmentally vibrant place on earth, in the epicenter of the world ocean, gives the Hawaiian people the opportunity to provide rejuvenation, learning and sanctuary for First Nations Peoples from all the continents.

In the Center, all First Nations people will gather their inner strength once more, share their knowledge among themselves, and then express it for the benefit of all people.

The Center will be a place of renewal for the 21st Century -- where small groups representing all the people of the earth can gather in respect, to thoughtfully consider the next steps in the human adventure.

Shared Roots

The wisdom held in trust for the world by the First Nations includes:

an awareness of the importance of the patterns of the past, the accumulated stories and legends that encapsulate a path of meaning for people in all times;

a respect for the balance of the earth, and for all the elements surrounding her, as the source of challenge and nurturing to human beings;

the importance of honor for the elders of a community, as links to the collective memory, and for the young people of a community, as links to the future;

the need for a spirit of interaction that transcends words and language, that connects people across the barriers of history, geography and culture to find common bonds and the foundations for peace;

the central importance of the family and the village as the social body to which each individual contributes, from which we draw strength and understanding;

the knowledge that all people come from a common root, a common family; that we share common needs and hopes, a unified vision of purpose expressed in a myriad forms, each one precious as part of our common cultural ecology;

that the focus of life is transcendent, intuitive experience, in which inner vision lights the way to the future.

Personal Transformation

The Center will create an atmosphere of careful listening, trust, learning and respect between traditional cultures and the industrial world. We will set our feet on a fresh path together, free from the exploitation of the past.

Everyone begins this journey begin with an inner, personal transformation.

Actions

To express its principles, the Center will engage in the following actions:

1. Securing a section of land in the Hawaiian Island chain that allows for quiet connection with nature. The energy of this land will be the guiding force for all people who visit the Center.

2. Building a center on this land, in the style of a small traditional village, designed with sensitivity to ecological principles, using traditional knowledge from the Hawaiian culture and from other globaltraditions.

3. Fashioning spaces for universal assembly, for ritual and healing, for individual and group study, interaction, discussion, and providing simple living quarters for up to 100 people.

4. Careful use of selected appropriate technologies, such as solar power, wind power, micro-hydro, local wireless communications, satellite communications, water purification, traditional agriculture and more to connect the Center to the world in a non-intrusive way, to make it self-sustaining as far as practical, and to provide the base for a series of media and Internet enterprises that provide income for First Nations People.

5. The Center will extend its message to the world through research, publication, media production, Internet sites, the celebration of important seasonal cycles and festivals, the sponsorship of peace-building exchanges, the leadership of international conferences, and the provision of sanctuary, healing and retreat to the injured, sick and challenged.

The Center will also host gatherings in which the methods of both ancient and modern traditions are taught, to reach deep into the hearts and souls of the people and provide an opening for deep transformation.

6. Leadership of the Center will be provided by dedicated people from the traditional Hawaiian community, who by blood and personal commitment hold the primary responsibility for stewardship of the land.

Other leaders will be drawn from among First Nations Peoples from all other traditional cultures in the world, wherever they may be found. People from the industrialized nations will provide advice, assistance and support to the Center, and may serve in roles the First Nations leaders determine are best.

Essence

Through the Center, the deep divide between First Nations Peoples and industrial culture can be healed, and each will be empowered in interdependent ways.

Traditional peoples will enjoy true partnership with others, without losing or compromising their highly-valued traditions; they will be respected for their contribution to the survival of humanity, and to the protection of the earth and all its creatures.

The citizens of the industrial world will re-discover a connection to the past, to the power of myth and legend. They will understand our responsibility to care for the earth and each other -- and will see many ways to build a possible future of respect, forgiveness and peace.

And according to their own tradition, the first people of Hawaii will deeply experience their purpose among the community of peoples, a purpose centered on the universal values of aloha -- welcome and healing -- and ohana -- family.

The Islands themselves speak this purpose to all who listen.

OK, maybe I'm wrong but doesn't this seem a bit paternalistic? Ya think?

Wait, it gets better.

One would imagine that in creating such an enterprise, the very people they are attempting to help would be invited to serve as corporate officers and be involved in decision-making. No, guess not. The Spezzanos are going to tell you how to do this. I believe Manifest Destiny once again can be invoked here. I also like the new term I learned in 2013: psychocolonization.

In January, 2004, the Spezzanos used the Center as a springboard to introduce SALPOV to the unsuspecting. With the Spezzanos, it is always all about them. Mediasense also hosted this document:

http://www.mediasense.com/Aloha/Aloha-Seminar.pdf (http://www.mediasense.com/Aloha/Aloha-Seminar.pdf)

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O Hawai’i...

Born of fire, the youngest land on earth holds high promise
for the future of humanity, if we can listen to your voice:

O Hawai’i...

The First People of these islands
have the ears to hear that voice,
and in this time all people of the
earth need your help, to help us to
listen more carefully:

O Kanaka Maoli

Enter a sacred space together:
First Peoples and others who
have felt the blessed breath of
this place and call it home to
our soul:

O Kama'aina

Our personal challenges, our
family heritage, our village
traditions, our island history,
our national treasure, our
global identity --

all follow the same spiral
pattern; to heal one body is to
begin healing them all:

O Pele

Help us to burn away the fires
that bind us, to walk into the
healing and purifying flames
that free us, to offer ourselves
to you

so we can return Home,
together...

O Hawai’i

The Spirit of Aloha
A Weekend of Vision and Healing

January 23 – January 25, 2004

A weekend seminar is humbly offered to the First People (Kanaka Maoli) of Hawaii, and to First Nations and traditional peoples from all the continents, to come together in a space of gentle listening, of vision quest, and fearlessness.

The sessions will be personally led by Chuck and Lency Spezzano, longtime Kaneohe residents who have made Hawaii the international headquarters of their successful healing practice, Psychology of Vision.

First Nations and traditional people around the world respect Chuck and Lency’s techniques, which are drawn from many sources of vision and the
shamanist quest. They work as a team to bring forth the clear essence within us, the essence that ultimately solves all problems and heals all wounds.

In Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Japan, Taiwan, Arizona, Kenya, India, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Norway, Zambia, Hong Kong, Thailand and with many First Nations groups, Chuck and Lency have helped open people to healing. Psychology of Vision is a
non-religious approach (yet deeply spiritual, and respecting all religions), full of humor and motivated by a graceful sincerity.

As a gesture of gratitude to the land of Aloha and its people who have given so much, and who have so much more to share with the world, Chuck and Lency offer this weekend at no cost to Kanaka Maoli. Building on the foundation laid one year ago in a similar workshop, they hope that seeds will be sown now for deeper explorations, in the conviction that the First People of Hawaii have a special message for the world, and that this message is eager to reveal itself.

Together with other First Nations people, the people of Hawaii can provide critical leadership to the other people of America, and to the world. The way they do this is critical to everyone on the planet.

This workshop will be dedicated to a new international non-profit organization, the Center for Aboriginal Vision and Healing, to be built on these islands in the center of the world ocean.

The Center will host First Peoples from around the world – from Africa, Asia, Central and South America, the Middle East, North America – as a place where traditional wisdom of all kinds can live and be shared in a respectful, sacred and healing way, for the benefit of all humanity. The people who join together on this weekend will be among those who help make that vision real.

You can read more about the Center and its vision, and join in the process of realizing it, by visiting this page on the Web:
http://www.mediasense.com/Center/

You can read more about Chuck and Lency’s work at the Psychology of Vision website:
http://www.psychologyofvision.com

And you can experience some of their techniques directly, at the special website for Gaia, the spirit of earth, forgiveness, and compassion:
http://www.gaia-mind.com

Cost of the Aloha Seminar

Chuck and Lency Spezzano make their home in Kaneohe, Hawai'i and travel around the world constantly. When they give a seminar of this type and duration, the fee is generally $250 - $350 per person.

Since they make their home here in Hawai’i, and owe so much of their healing and family life to this land and its people, they are offering this seminar at no cost to all participants.

Especially for those of Hawaiian ancestry, we want full participation without regard to money. For others, and for those who can afford it, we ask that you consider a donation in an amount that is most appropriate for you, after you have attended the program.

All donations will go to the Center for Aboriginal Healing and Vision, a newly-registered 501(c)3 organization, and are tax-deductible in the USA.

Mahalo

This seminar description is available online, at
http://www.mediasense.com/Aloha/

Psychology of Vision, The Spirit of Aloha
A weekend of Vision and Healing

DATE:
January 23 – January 25, 2003
Friday evening, and all day Saturday and Sunday

PLACE:
47-416 Waihee Place
Kaneohe, HI 96744
Tel: 239-4502 (Office)

TO REGISTER:
Tel: 239-4502 or
Email:
vision@aloha.net
Attn: Peggy Chang

START TIME:
6:00 pm on Friday, January 23, 2004 to sign in. Please be on time.
10:00 a.m. through 7:00 pm. on Saturday and Sunday

LUNCH:
Breaks and a time for lunch are available.
A bag lunch is suggested.


Please - no late arrivals or early departures from sessions, as it is distracting to the process of the group as a whole. Exceptions will be considered and are to be approved by facilitators prior to the start of sessions.

The seminar is intensive, and the length of sessions will depend on the needs and experience of the people attending. Friday’s session will run from 6:30 – 9:30 pm. Saturday & Sunday sessions will run from 10:00 am. to approximately 7:00 pm. Please make your plans accordingly.

I don't really have to comment, do I? The above text speaks for itself.

Meanwhile, in British Columbia, another dot to connect--

We note that at the same time Gaia Mind and the CAHV were created, SALPOV trainers Babs Stevens and Charles Campbell set up the International Foundation for Vision and Healing, another nonprofit that turned out to be a dead end. Was this part The Plan as well?:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38709#msg38709 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38709#msg38709)

Given Mr. North's intelligent comments regarding cultural sensitivity on other platforms, I find it difficult to understand why he would allow himself to be associated with an ethnocentric, scammy, and blatantly out for money corporation like SALPOV. From what I can gather, it is true that both of the Norths appear to be somewhat susceptible like many other people to a bit of New Age blather. But they also don't come across as total tools and fools, which, quite frankly, is how all SALPOV cult followers look to the rest of us. I find it hard to believe that Michael North would actually believe Lenora's powertripping "Downloading/Joining" is what she claims it is. I truly hope I have not overestimated North's critical thinking skills, since I admire his financial international outreach efforts in terms of creating stronger ties with China. But, as Donald "Birther" Trump has demonstrated, any idiot can make money, having a successful capitalist career does not really mean you possess a critical mind--

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)

Would North really buy into Lenora's somewhat condescending footnote in her confabulating "Truth" screed--

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Just to be clear, when I refer to the “natural world” in which we all live, or to some Indigenous peoples’ "relationships to their traditional lands, waterways and resources - I'm not talking about “Indian” stereotypes, such as the "Indian as Nature or as natural"; nor am I saying, “All Native people are so spiritual.” What I am talking about are the many Indigenous peoples who have already led the way in this regard, and those who are continuing to lead the way - the most recent being, for example, the Idle No More movement, which began in Canada and quickly caught fire across the globe. That said, as much I don’t want to sound like a corny wannabe, I do believe that many Indigenous groups and individuals have a very valuable sense of relationship with the - brace yourself! - "Great Spirit" who occupies the planet as a body.

She sounds like a narc in an episode of the 1960s Dragnet. Here's a link to whole jive--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/are-the-spezzanos-targeting-first-nations-or-other-indigenous-peoples-metis-inuit-or-native-americans-for-financial-gain/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/are-the-spezzanos-targeting-first-nations-or-other-indigenous-peoples-metis-inuit-or-native-americans-for-financial-gain/)

Section K of the German version of the SALPOV Trainers Manual (First Nations Fund) is basically a manual for affinity fraud. Ingeborg made short work of that here on NAFPS--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674 
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36674#msg36674)

The amazing Piff, who was a valuable help in this research, has noted North appears to be the only person who operated within the SALPOV universe for any length of time who was treated as an equal by Charles and Lenora. As Tom Cruise is in Scientology, North was to SALPOV. That all others in this steep hierarchy personality cult are clearly subservient is beyond debate (as clearly documented in the SALPOV English language Trainers Manual, no longer available online, but I have a copy attached for those who are signed on). And I'll add this: North's expertise is in making money and networking, not in providing healing therapy. So what was going on there? In Spezzanoland everything boils down to the cashola, so what was the deal? Obviously their partnership had little to do with "healing."

These two failed enterprises bring up lots of questions as we survey the history of SALPOV. Who approached who, and who cooked up the initial plan, why did these two efforts die in 2006, and who decided to cut the losses and end them?   

So, what was going on with SALPOV in early 2003? What was the endgame supposed to be? Why did all these big visions fail? Why were they all dropped and SALPOV energy shifted to Oneness University in 2007? What was Mr. North's role in this? It appeared there was some grand networking scheme that apparently fell through. Why?

SALPOV representatives who want to step in and answer these questions are most welcome to do so. I'm also waiting to read answers to my earlier list of queries from last October--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38683#msg38683 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38683#msg38683)

And a happy 2015 to all!






Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on January 05, 2015, 09:06:15 pm
Looks like a mechanism for baiting in potential funders and a way to keep funds tax free. Taping into a method of laundering money under the guise of non-profit projects and events. It's all for the temporary effort to keep latching on and stirring up abilities to make mo money! If Hawaiians wanted such a place it would already exist.
Anytime you see these POV people make a "glossy package" on behalf of a FN cause or poor victims, you know it is really all about EXPLOITATION.
 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 09, 2015, 05:20:46 pm
If you live in British Columbia and need to spend the thousands of dollars required by SALPOV for the honor of being manipulated, exploited, and brainwashed, you are out of luck if you want aid from StudentAidBC to help pad the Spezzano bank account--

https://studentaidbc.ca/institution/218430126 (https://studentaidbc.ca/institution/218430126)

Quote
PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION
47 416 Waihee Pl
KANEOHE HI 96744
USA
Type: STATUS NOT DEFINED
Does Not Meet Criteria

This post-secondary institution does not meet the criteria to administer the StudentAid BC program.

I imagine the discussion on whether or not to include SALPOV among professional institutions was a fairly short one.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 13, 2015, 12:47:51 pm
Oneness University, Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV), and the Profile Engine

The secrecy and lack of hard data concerning SALPOV makes any research of this cult a challenge. For a corporation that uses the term "Oneness" so often since 2007 and touts their own "transparency" you think they would be an open book, making full disclosure. But if they were, we would be able to see their financial statements, internal discussion forums or the marching orders as issued on Comindwork, current list of personnel and trainers, manuals, SALPOV list of stockholders in a corporation that has earned perhaps more than a million a year, the international financial relations such as what is that Swiss bank account all about, etc.

Nope, forget it. And when we start looking closer at detailed aspects of SALPOV some of the information sources we spotlight get shut down and deleted from online view, such as the English language Trainer's Manual or the Spezzano/Ticehurst Healing Metaphors.   

Really, this is no different from many other American capitalist for-profit enterprises, except that the Spezzanos have added the element of it being a personality cult. The followers worship the Spezzanos while the Spezzanos in turn worship the coin of the realm. It's all about the money. 

One of the biggest SALPOV coverups concerns their loving embrace of Oneness University from 2007 to probably about 2011, give or take a year. Being somewhat sloppy and not real current on their websites, they didn't go into full purge mode to erase this fact until a year ago.

Regular readers of this thread know that in 2007 the Spezzanos attended Oneness University in India and integrated many OU practices into their own dogma which are still present today but not identified as such. For some reason they went to great lengths to distance themselves from OU in early 2014, even to the point of eradicating any mention of the institution from their websites, LinkedIn profile, etc. It is almost as if SALPOV never heard of Amma, Bhagavan, or Oneness University.

But even after this theological cleansing, they still missed a few spots, which we made sure to preserve here on NAFPS--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37479#msg37479 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37479#msg37479) 

In her humourously entitled "Truth" screed Lenora Kay Spezzano really downplayed their involvement with OU and did not go into any detail over the reasons why all OU data was purged from SALPOV history. We have documented the strong connection between OU and SALPOV many times on this thread and have clearly provided evidence that Lenora's lone brief public statement, which is the only official SALPOV opinion about this subject we can find, is so misleading and inaccurate. Young Christopher Spezzano has gifted us with a more strongly worded anti-Oneness University statement, but although he is connected, he is not officially considered a spokesperson for the corporation as far as we know.

Exactly why the Spezzanos are down on OU is something I do not know and cannot begin to guess. As interesting as that might be, what is more fascinating to me are the SALPOV efforts to rewrite their own history and live in denial of their own past. That's having a "split mind," wouldn't you say? Charles Lee Spezzano says all problems boil down to guilt. Well, obviously the Spezzanos are suffering a split mind originating from guilt over something when it comes to Oneness University. But, what do I know? I'm no psychologist. Hey, come to think of it, neither are the Spezzanos! Maybe they need to see a real professional to help heal the vast gulf between what they say and what they do. Time to think outside of that confining little triangle they swiped from Bob Trask.

Spezzano's Ph. D. is not in "Counseling Psychology" as he claims on his LinkedIn (where, incidentally, his listed attendance at OU was deleted last year). No, his APA-unaccredited degree was in the much more useless and unemployable degree of "Professional Psychology." Within three years he was going up and down the West Coast advertising himself as a "psychic." Why does the name "Elmer Gantry" suddenly spring to mind? 

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693)

So, the stage is set where we are talking about two New Age bottom feeders here who have no qualms about engaging in false advertising.

Now on to the Profile Engine.

Apparently the Profile Engine had a deal with Facebook for access to all profiles and social networking links from 2007-2010. Then there was a legal hassle and the show came to an end. Here is a link to the Profile Engine version of defining their content--

https://profileengine.deskpro.com/kb/articles/24-where-did-the-information-on-profile-engine-come-from-when-and-how (https://profileengine.deskpro.com/kb/articles/24-where-did-the-information-on-profile-engine-come-from-when-and-how)

So, as you can see, this is basically a window into the networking of the Facebook world in 2007-2010, which should provide us with a nice view of the SALPOV social links during that era.

So let us take a look, shall we?

First we find this:

Quote
Lency and Chuck Spezzano Global Leadership Alumni (Psychology of Vision)   

Group members: 74

Description: A dynamic duo of the husband and wife team who are behind Psychology of Vision, a movement transforming the world, guided by the principles of A Course of Miracles and the teachings of Oneness University. These two, who have my vote for a Noble Peace Prize, are tirelessly traveling the world to empower people to their full potential, seminar by seminar.Group created December 9, 2007.

http://profileengine.com/groups/profile/425553053/lency-and-chuck-spezzano-global-leadership-alumni-psychology-of-vision (http://profileengine.com/groups/profile/425553053/lency-and-chuck-spezzano-global-leadership-alumni-psychology-of-vision)

Oh, guided by the teachings of Oneness University. You don't say? The Lency and Chuck Spezzano Global Leadership Alumni was apparently a very short-lived venture.

Oneness UK is also in the mix:

Quote
Oneness UK   

Group members: 381

Description: “TO SET HUMANITY TOTALLY AND UNCONDITIONALLY FREE” is the vision of the Founders of Oneness, Sri Amma and Sri Bhagavan. Oneness...Oneness does not teach you reading, writing or arithmetic; nor does it educate you on the technicalities of various professions. It is a place for learning life, which addresses your 'other' side, the inner side. It does not give you specialisations but make you into a human being, into what you are supposed to be.Oneness Founders, Sri Bhagavan & Sri Amma...The Divine phenomenon

http://profileengine.com/people/Lency/lency.spezzano#/groups/profile/431207791/oneness-uk (http://profileengine.com/people/Lency/lency.spezzano#/groups/profile/431207791/oneness-uk)

Those connected with this social group include none other than-- Lency Spezzano!   
 
Then there is this site called the "Oneness Buss" and it isn't clear if this is an individual or a concept. Apparently Oneness University has their own bus (photo attached). Unlike SALPOV victims who are marooned on the Waihee Pl. Palace and have to make their own way to Paradise Bay Resort which is a mile and half away (some of it on a major highway), at least OU has enough class to provide transportation for their followers. But with the Spezzanos, so I'm told, you have to provide your own wheels or find other methods to return to your motel room. Not real ADA friendly, eh? Oh, wait, if you have a disability it is your own damn fault according to Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst. Sorry. I forgot.

http://profileengine.com/people/301917505/oneness.buss (http://profileengine.com/people/301917505/oneness.buss)

The Oneness Buss site includes the following SALPOV connections, including some members of SALPOV's Star Chamber (and I'm probably missing a few others):

Bunny Sjogren
Ross Hyslop
Susan Allen
Jeff Allen
Jane Kirby
Janie Ticehurst
Julie Wookey
Andrea Cranmer
Ruby Tang
Avril Woodward

It seems to me this snapshot in time demonstrates that Oneness University, Amma and Bhagavan were more influential in the history of SALPOV than Lenora would have us believe.

Deeksha blessing anyone?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on January 14, 2015, 06:02:54 pm
Not only are the Spezzanos running a deception, abusive Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT), there are also elements of guru worship in this group. Chuck does "blessings", devotees adore the Spezzanos. Along with their use of Course in Miracles and Oneness - the Spezzanos have concocted their own New Age pseudo-religious LGAT cult.

Dangerous.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 16, 2015, 02:14:05 pm
The plot thickens.

We noted that while Charles Lee Spezzano and Michael North were setting up the Center for Aboriginal Healing and Vision in January 2003, SALPOV trainers Babs Stevens and Charles Campbell set up the International Foundation for Vision and Healing in Vancouver, BC around March/April 2003--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39391#msg39391 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39391#msg39391)

Now we can add a third "non-profit" to the list. The International Association for Vision and Healing was also formed in 2003. It was in Burnaby, BC with officers Geraldine Ambers, Susan How, and Ruby Tang, all three being allied with SALPOV at one time or another--

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=4179374 (https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=4179374)

So once again I wonder what the endgame was supposed to be with these groups formed in 2003? And how many more of these groups are there?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 20, 2015, 02:52:11 pm
As I survey the academic credentials of the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) personnel in the Anglo-American branches several observations come to mind.

Most of the trainer biographies do not include details of their academic training. Although this isn't proof that every single one of them are unqualified to be messing around with the lives of vulnerable people, none of them appear to be even close to having the qualifications to be dabbling in the field of psychology. The Spezzanos themselves have had no legitimate continuing education since the 1970s from what I can see.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693)

The SALPOV UK website is the most poorly administered and least current in the corporation, so using it as a tool to gather data is a bit tricky. It would appear that Alison Banks and Julie Wookey might have left the fold as trainers, but since they remain in the official roster I am including them here.

When you take away their artificial and make-believe SALPOV "level" certificates in this steep hierarchy, the remaining lack of expertise is rather frightening when one considers what they promise to deliver.

If all the money these poor sods had poured into the Spezzano bank account had been applied instead to a real academic degree with a real accredited institution of higher education, these people could've had real careers by this time. But instead, they really just have diddly squat now when it comes to having a résumé with any clout. Any employer who begins to investigate what this "Psychology of Vision" is all about will conclude, "Sweet Jesus, these people are out of their tiny little minds!" and quickly move on to the next applicant-- especially if they had the pleasure of viewing Lenora's downloading/joining videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

The Anglo-American branch of SALPOV has been shrinking rapidly for the last few years. And, those who remain are old farts who are in too deep to change now. Being an old fart myself I know one when I see one. In the UK the povevents.com website has been down for over a month, and even though Charles Lee Spezzano's German visits have been announced for quite some time, there is no word yet if he'll visit the UK. In Canada, their events page is completely blank! I'm not seeing a lot of excitement being generated here, except, perhaps, by certain law enforcement and government regulator types.

Here is a list, based on the best information available, of the SALPOV trainers in the Anglo-American world and their highest degrees. The fact that most of this data is not presented on their websites tells us a lot about the lack of transparency in this secretive group.

SALPOV-- it's all about the money.

United States

Charles Lee Spezzano: Ph. D., "Professional Psychology" (not APA accredited), United States International University, 1977. Attended Oneness University 2007.

Lenora Kay Spezzano: MSc, Rehabilitation Counseling, University of Arizona, 1976. Attended Oneness University 2007.

Francine Andrea Girard: Studied at the Process Work Institute, but no degree listed. The nearest PWI is an unaccredited private school in Portland, Oregon. Reference is made to her background in engineering.

Canada

Babs Stevens: No higher education listed. On her LinkedIn she is "Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator" and on her Twitter, "Psychology of Vision Trainer and Oneness Blessing (Deeksha) Giver."

Joanne Roberts: No higher education listed. On LinkedIn she is a "vibrational therapist/coach."

Betty Lou Hunt: No degree listed, but LinkedIn states "University of Alberta, Physiotherapy, 1969-1972." Also, "Acupuncture Foundation of Canada Institute, Certicate [sic] of Acupuncture, November 1997 – Present."

Charles Campbell: No degree listed. Works as a chiropractor in Vancouver, BC.

Susan How: No higher education listed.

United Kingdom

Alex Patchett-Joyce: MA, Conservation Studies, West Dean College, 2004. Her dissertation, The Stove's Renaissance: Investigation of and research into the history, and social history, of a 17th century stove and the planning of its ethical conservation, won an annual award.

Alison Banks: Putney High School

Avril Woodward: No higher education listed.

Barb Jones: Uses the suffix "Dip. ITEC" with no qualifier. Was "studying counseling" over two decades ago. "I am also a massage and reflexology therapist." No mention of SALPOV on her commercial website, http://chooseheavenonearth.com/ (http://chooseheavenonearth.com/), although she states she is a "qualified therapist."

Evie Prior: No higher education listed. Called a "Master Practitioner in NLP."

Jeff Allen: According to his LinkedIN, "Newcastle Technical College, Marine Engineering and Fitting and Turning, 1966 – 1969."

Julie P. Wookey: No higher education listed.

Nicky Rangecroft: No higher education listed.

Sue Allen: No degree listed, but mention is made of attending University of Sussex.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 21, 2015, 04:32:42 pm
It is very good to see more fact-based information concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision appearing in the German language. The Spezzanos in the US and Jeff Allen in the UK are trying hard to cultivate the New Age market in Central Europe using SALPOV as the lure--

http://visionworksforlife.de/facilitators-and-groups/ (http://visionworksforlife.de/facilitators-and-groups/)

Exactly why SALPOV is going down the toilet in North America and the UK, but on the other hand finding a receptive audience in Germany is a topic worthy of a thesis by someone earning an accredited degree at a real university.

Looks like SALPOV is still finding a foothold in Asia as well, as this disturbing video from Japan demonstrates--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YOcFuaOII  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YOcFuaOII)

It could be that in both regions where SALPOV has found purchase, the cult strongly emphasizes the promise of their dogma to produce money (or "abundance") as much as, or more so, than "healing." In Canada it appeared the main focus was on the spiritual retailing, but in Asia and Germany the cult really pushes the business management and leadership aspects as well.

Anyway, Psiram has recently released a three-part series of blogposts in German and English. Part II will be of special interest to Canadian readers--

Psychology of Vision I – die Kunden zahlen fürs Hypnotisiertwerden und Heulen
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-i-die-kunden-zahlen-fuers-hypnotisiertwerden-und-heulen/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-i-die-kunden-zahlen-fuers-hypnotisiertwerden-und-heulen/)

Psychology of Vision I – Paying to cry your eyes out and be hypnothised
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-i-paying-to-cry-your-eyes-out-and-be-hypnothised/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-i-paying-to-cry-your-eyes-out-and-be-hypnothised/)

Psychology of Vision II – Staatsknete abgreifen, Spenden fordern und den Wohltäter mimen
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-ii-staatsknete-abgreifen-spenden-fordern-und-den-wohltaeter-mimen/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-ii-staatsknete-abgreifen-spenden-fordern-und-den-wohltaeter-mimen/)

Psychology of Vision II – Grabbing state money, demanding donations, and still mimicking the benefactor
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-ii-grabbing-state-money-demanding-donations-and-still-mimicking-the-benefactor/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-ii-grabbing-state-money-demanding-donations-and-still-mimicking-the-benefactor/)

Psychology of Vision III – “Wir kriegen euch alle”: Multitasking im Pyramidensystem
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-iii-wir-kriegen-euch-alle-multitasking-im-pyramidensystem/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-iii-wir-kriegen-euch-alle-multitasking-im-pyramidensystem/)

Psychology of Vision III – “We’ll get you all”: Multitasking in a pyramid scheme
https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-iii-well-get-you-all-multitasking-in-a-pyramid-system/
 (https://blog.psiram.com/2015/01/psychology-of-vision-iii-well-get-you-all-multitasking-in-a-pyramid-system/)

SALPOV-- where people are a commodity to be exploited and the bottom line is that it's all about the money.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 25, 2015, 04:56:45 pm
For some reason the Japanese video I linked to above was taken down right after I made reference to it. But then it returned under a new URL. So, once again, here is a link to a very disturbing Youtube regarding SALPOV--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXcrEhnK_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXcrEhnK_o)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 28, 2015, 04:17:36 pm
On the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) website in the section where praise and testimony is offered you'll find among the other videos a piece apparently compiled by Malcolm Smith, ND with the caption "Malcolm Smith describes Lency's elegant and effect [sic] healing style."

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Praise.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Praise.htm)

(An aside here. For some reason Jack Miller's poem of praise, which we had linked to just a few months ago, has been deleted. In case you missed this effort, here's a link)--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37960;topicseen#msg37960 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37960;topicseen#msg37960)

Now let's go to the UK SALPOV website, where under the category of "Chuck's Videos" we are presented with the interview with Nick Williams, followed by several of the brief lectures by Charles Lee Spezzano that are found on his Youtube account.

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/chucks-videos/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/chucks-videos/)

But in the "Lency's Videos" section we are given only one title, the Malcolm Smith compilation mentioned above. Where are all the "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes? Why are several of her husband's Youtubes included but all of hers left out? Curious.

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/lencys-videos/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/lencys-videos/)

Smith's video was produced around 2009. The work is 8 minutes long and includes praise for Lenora Kay Spezzano's seminars from Smith himself plus five other people. One participant calls Lenora "a window to God." There is no printed title, or statement of responsibility, or credits, or copyright year.

It looks like this originally appeared on Vimeo. Presumably the Spezzanos selected this particular bit of video themselves as part of their collection of testimonials--

http://vimeo.com/5210638 (http://vimeo.com/5210638)

I wonder if the Spezzanos noticed that one of the tags on this piece was for Oneness University?

http://vimeo.com/tag:oneness+university/page:1/sort:plays/format:detail  (http://vimeo.com/tag:oneness+university/page:1/sort:plays/format:detail)

Or if they saw on Smith's LifePrint Homeopathy blog page the link to SALPOV still says--

Quote
Psychology of Vision... a powerful release technique developed by Chuck and Lency Spezzano, this method is based on the work of A Course in Miracles and The Oneness University.

http://lifeprinthomeopathy.blogspot.com/2009/10/latest.html (http://lifeprinthomeopathy.blogspot.com/2009/10/latest.html)

In their dash to erase an important part of their own history and purge all evidence of the influence of Oneness University, SALPOV failed to catch a few details. We can add SALPOV trainer Babs Stevens still advertising herself as a Oneness Blessing Deeksha Giver on LinkedIn and Twitter in the mix as well. Also, they forgot to erase their praise of Amma and Bhagavan from their own Card for the Day archives--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=amma (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=amma)

The question as to why Lenora Kay Spezzano now dislikes Oneness University, and SALPOV went to such extraordinary lengths to cover up the importance of their spiritual connection with Amma and Bhagavan, remains a mystery to me. I have theories, but really I do not know and cannot guess.

But there is one thing I do know, SALPOV certainly has no qualms about erasing various chunks of their history when the truth become inconvenient. We documented plenty of evidence about that here on NAFPS.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 29, 2015, 04:47:55 pm
Piff brought something to my attention--

Earlier this month the annual 10-day trainers' training took place in Hawaii. Here's what the 2011 Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual says about this event (Section G2)

Quote
2. Trainers’ Conference

Attendance at the annual 10-day PoV Trainers’ Conference is mandatory. Trainers are required to pay travel and lodging expenses and stay at the hotel where the training is presented (unless you are funded). There are no exceptions to this, although pregnancy and medical conditions are considered on a case-by-case basis. Please note that we negotiate for conference room rates based on hotel room occupancy. Therefore trainers must stay on site to honor our conference contract with hotel. As this is our most important commitment, if a trainer is late serious consequences will be observed. This includes a reason that appears out of the trainers’ control, such as delayed flights. Missing a full day of the conference will put the trainer on probation and will need to do 5 to 10 day training with a Master Trainer in the next 6 months. A portion of a day or more than a day missed will be decided case by case using the above guideline for benchmark.

So, given the gravity and importance of this occasion, I found the photo accompanying Jeff Allen's recent report to be most interesting. In the photo are pictured Alex Patchett-Joyce, Charles Lee Spezzano, Sue Allen, Lenora Kay Spezzano, Nicky Rangecroft, Jeff Allen, and, I think, Barb Jones. Jeff labels them the "UK Team in Hawaii".

http://visionworksforlife.com/2015/styles-of-aggression/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/2015/styles-of-aggression/)

Apparently the theme (which readers of this forum should find deliciously ironic, especially if you view Lenora's "downloading/joining" videos) was "Styles of Aggression."

Anyway, that photo is interesting for the number of people absent: Alison Banks, Avril Woodward, Evie Prior, and Julie Wookey. If attendance at this gig is required, and if Jeff presents the photo as the UK SALPOV Team, does this mean Banks, Woodward, Prior and Wookey are no longer trainers?

The UK SALPOV website still lists all them as active trainers--

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/)

But none of those absent in the photo have any events scheduled--

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/events/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/events/)

Has SALPOV suffered a significant loss of veteran trainers in a very short time? Wookey was a "Level 4," and part of the elite Steering Committee (I just noticed her name is spelled "Wookie" in the Manual). Woodward ran the povevents website, which has been down now for well over a month.

I also note that Charles Lee Spezzano has no events announced or scheduled for the UK or Canada in 2015 so far. In the Anglo world, it would appear that Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision is in rapid decline. It would be good to see a few government regulator types help speed up the process.

Maybe there is a God after all. 


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on January 29, 2015, 06:21:10 pm
A card of the day Chuck has used several times is "Healing the Hell Worlds". This, along with everything else Chuck and Lency promote, is not unique to them. They are classic New Age, drawing from many sources and rarely giving proper credit.

"The Hell Worlds" is from Grace, Gaia, and the End of Days: An Alternative Way for the Advanced Soul, by Stuart Wilde

https://books.google.com/books?id=uBeNU-l6bAsC&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=%22hell+worlds%22&source=bl&ots=iETtucnRqp&sig=5DAIOyHz_CcKafI_FgXVB9oMO6E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-XXKVKmXIoSyyQSOxIGQCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22hell%20worlds%22&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=uBeNU-l6bAsC&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=%22hell+worlds%22&source=bl&ots=iETtucnRqp&sig=5DAIOyHz_CcKafI_FgXVB9oMO6E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-XXKVKmXIoSyyQSOxIGQCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22hell%20worlds%22&f=false)

Wilde states that his info on these hell worlds comes from his 68 sessions with ayahuasca.

Quote
Stuart Wilde (1946 – 2013) is considered by many to be the greatest metaphysical teacher that has ever lived. Most famous New Age, New Thought writers and teachers privately studied with him, or they have been greatly influenced by his work.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/about/ (http://www.stuartwilde.com/about/)

Chuck's teachings are not new and special. He is being deceptive by not clearly stating his sources, by pretending that he is the only source.

Ultimately, the beliefs don't matter, the behavior does. Chuck and Lency behave badly, and they teach others to behave badly.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 05, 2015, 08:10:43 am
Here's some background on the activities of trainers in the German-speaking regions, including (as far as is provided by them) info on their original profession:

The PoV trainers active in the German-speaking regions don't only offer PoV courses and seminars, but also different Nuage methods. Many of them are longterm PoVers.

Part of them are licenced as alternative practitioners.
To give some background on this: We in fact owe this particularity to the Nazis who tried to aryanise the German health system, and the licences were continued in the Federal Republic after the war, while in the Democratic Republic persons already in possession of such a licence were allowed to continue, but no further licences were being issued.

The licence basically offers access to a 'healing' profession for persons who do not study medicine. Prerequisites: applicants must be 25 years of age or above, and are expected to provide a medical certificate, and a certificate of conduct. A local health authority will run a multiple choice test of 60 questions, 45 of which must be answered correctly, plus an oral examination. Both are meant to establish whether an applicant will pose a threat to public health or is able to properly identify e.g. cases of infectious diseases and immediately pass those to a medical doctor. About 50% of applicants fail these tests, but may try as often as they wish as the number of attempts has not been limited. Furthermore, local health authorities do not evaluate according to which alternative methods or concepts applicants intend to treat their clients and whether these methods are effective or rubbish.

The licence may be obtained as a 'general' alternative practitioner, or as an AP limited to psychotherapy, often apostrophied as the 'small licence'. These practitioners may not use the term 'psychotherapist' which is limited to persons having finished a course of studies at a university, and if they do, this is an offence.


Anke Schuppan, trainer level 1,  Gardelegen

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Apart from my own seminars, supervision, and coachings which are e.g. combined with Hawaiian body work, I am a contact for many international PoV events and for VisionWorks, I support Steps-to-Leadership heads of courses and work for PoV as a translator.

A website run by another PoV member, http://www.powerful-events.de/speaker/anke-schuppan , publishes the following info:
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... from work as a horse trainer, assistant job in the field of horse-based psychotherapy, and a course of studies in psychology until Psychology of Vision and self-employment as a psychologist in the field of relationship and life counseling.
Whether these are claims or based on facts cannot be established.


Anne-Kathrin Koch (married name), Spiesen-Elversberg (Saarland)
Trainer level 2

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I spent my childhood mainly in music lessons, self-awareness, healing and consciousness seminars and in the horse stable. After … finishing a course of studies in musical therapy I met Chuck and Lency in 2004. With my licence as an alternative practician, I am working in my own office since 2006 (in my office as well as per skype and by telephone), do lectures, lead study groups and seminars.

Koch also publishes ads:
http://www.gesunder-mensch.de/9708_anne-kathrin-koch-spiesen-elversberg.html
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Alternative practitioner for psychotherapy, trainer of Psychology of Vision according to Dr Chuck and Lency Spezzano


Claudia Schönfeld, trainer level 1, Hamburg

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I gathered first experience with self-healing powers in the meditations and initiation trainins of „Art Read“ and with the support of the Blackfood Indians [sic!] during a sundance. […] With the tools learned here [ie. At PoV] I was able to walk through incredible 'lows' with my husband and achieve at a relaxed and loving partnership. It fulfills me to be able to pass on this experience and knowledge in my seminars, the study group „The Meeting“, and in individual coachings.

https://www.xing.com/profile/Claudia_Schoenfeld3
Employment: Trainer at Psychologie of Vision, branch of trade: Coaching, self-employed
[no other/previous employer mentioned]
Psychology of Vision Trainer in individual coaching
Group coaching
PoV seminars in Hamburg and nation-wide


Kurt Sommer, trainer level 1, Neufahrn

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Personally, PoV work has helped me to restore the lost relationship to god and to my family which I was about to leave. […] I thus found my calling as a trainer of relationships and counsellor. This was in 1999. Meanwhile, I was able to support persons in innumerable individual coachings and in many seminars. This work profits from my practice as a qualified social education worker (Diploma).

In 2001, Jeff Allen asked me to begin introducing Steps to Leadership for the first time in Germany. Since then, I start a new course every year with a large, positive feedback. ...

On his own website, Sommer says:
http://www.kurt-sommer.com/
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Successful relationships and partnerships for singles, couples, families, organisations and on the job counseling
Kurt Sommer – qualified social education worker, couple therapist, communications coach

Sommer has been active at the predecessor of PoV DACH
http://www.moneyhouse.ch/p/sommer_kurt-4267498/
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Career:
December 2003 to Novemer 2006: Member of Psychology of Vision DACH


Rebecca Wildi, trainer level 1, Switzerland
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I have always been a dancing soul and loved to learn and teach in my life. I was a kindergarten nurse originally and […] today I run my own dance school and am passionately teaching dance, spiral dynamics, and Psychology of Vision.

In her Xing profile, Wildi says she is a solo dancer and teacher of oriental dances, and self-employed since 2001:

https://www.xing.com/profile/Rebecca_Wildi


Susanne Ernst, trainer level 3, Switzerland

http://www.pov-int.eu/trainer/susanne-ernst/

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Susanne Ernst (born 1958) lives with her husband and their two sons. She is a trainer level III of Psychology of Vision in the German-speaking countries. With more than 20 years of experience of working with Psychology of Vision […]

Chuck Spezzano about Susanne Ernst:
„Susanne is a wise teacher who makes complexity easy to understand. She is a healer with warmth, humour, feeling of security and spontaneity. A mystic who opens the angel-like levels, yet at the same time remains practical when she helps to bring about blessed changes. She is a „mother of the earth“ with a vast spiritual heritage.“
Interests:
She has a diploma II in Seitai (energy work) and as an Aikido teacher of the 4th Dan, she has her own school and dojo in Solothurn/Switzerland. In the management of PoV-DACH GmbH together with Josef Neuschmid and Mathias Keller, she works actively and coordinatively all over Europe.
On the website she maintains for her dojo, Ernst says she has had her own dojo since 2003 and names Peter Shapiro as her teacher.
As her profession she claims:
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Coach for life counseling according to PoV, Aikido trainer, Seitai teacher
From the CV published there, Ernst claims „more than 25 years of experience of working with Psychology of Vision by Chuck and Lency Spezzano“.
She also provides the information that her original profession was a „nurse specialized in anaesthetics“.

Aikido teacher Peter Shapiro presently does not seem to be active in PoV, however continues to use PoV as a sales pitch on his website:

https://ch.linkedin.com/pub/peter-shapiro/51/166/836

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brought up as an artist-, played free jazz piano in the 60's and painted as a member of the n.y. school, basing my painting and later a theory of aesthetics on the teaching of hans hoffmann, went to japan and studied aikido with the founder and with hikitsuchi-sensei, zen with yasutani roshi, seitai with noguchi haruchika-sensei and natural farming with fukuoka masanobu -sensei…..hold 6th dan in aikido, shodan in masakatsu bo, a katsugen consultant certificate and shodan in seitai,…...graduate advanced trainer/coach in the psychology of vision..(currently inactive) now teaching and leading musicians in the interpretation of the music of j.s. bach and of monteverdi, created the bach renewal society…currently also playing free jazz piano….created a form of aikido practice going to to o.sensei, which i named ki-no-nagare aikido…


Torsten Konrad, trainer level 1, Cologne

http://www.pov-int.eu/trainer/torsten-konrad/

Acording to the info provided in his PoV bio, Konrad has studied dance at Folkwang which is one of the most renowned schools/academies for actors etc. He also is a teacher of presently 14 years at Folkwang and is a teacher of Alexander technique, living in Cologne and teaching in Cologne, Essen, Berlin, Saarbrücken as well as per Skype and telephone.
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“I love Psychology of Vision because it supports us consequently and conitnuously to strengthen trust in our life and into the light.“


Mathias Keller, trainer level 1 and PoV DACH

Keller is a trainer level I (although inactive from Jan 2015), and one of three CEOs of PoV-DACH.
In this ad dd 2012, Keller claims he has been a leader of Steps to Leadership courses and PoV advanced training evenings in Bern and Basel (Switzerland).
http://www.blindad.de/events/Kehrsatz_im-prinzip-einfach-halbtages-workshop-mit-pov-april-2012_195518.php?adventure=essen-mexikanisch&ad=560

Keller also contributed a testimonial to the newly arranged site „The truth about Chuck and Lency Spezzano:

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/testimonials-germany/

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Psychology of Vision has allowed me to alter my life for the better. My happiness lies in my own hands. The many simple tools I can use every day have made my life a lot easier. Through understanding my psyche I gained more comprehension of my past and my behavior. I therefore was able to understand relationships better, make new decisions, create more bonding and live a happier life. I’m very grateful that I came across this work and got to know it.
Mathias Keller
Germany
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 05, 2015, 08:16:30 am
PoV-DACH:

Susanne Ernst: see above


Josef Neuschmid, Zurich, Switzerland

Neuschmid is no trainer, but a CEO of PoV-DACH. He is an Austrian citizen, but with his previous wife has been living in Germany where he had an office as an alternative practician (this is a profession which may not be practiced in Austria according to Austrian law). As far as can be established in a Google search, Neuschmid does not seem to have sold courses done by himself, but placed advertisements for and organised lectures and seminars Spezzano does on his regular trips to Europe, like e.g. this one:

http://ovb.markt.de/hohenbrunn/kultur/psychologie+of+vision+josef+neuschmid/absIndex,2/keywords,235/rView,list/recordId,fbf1ddf4/expose.htm

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Date: Feb 27, 2015, 1 pm to Feb 28, 2015, midnight

Trainer: Chuck Spezzano

„Partnership, family, community: Discover what heals the interior“

Everything in life is about relationships. Most of the problems we meet take their origin there. And nowhere can we learn as much about ourselves and the world.
Chuck Spezzano, internationally renowed psychologist and author of bestsellers, shows how every connection with a fellow human mirrors our inner state, our problems as well as our hidden potential. Whether partnership, family, profession or society, in deciphering the secret messages of our relationships correctly, we gain unpayably valuable hints for self-fulfilment and personal growth.“

Three-day-seminar from Feb 27 to March 1, 2015:
Fees:
470,– p. person
420,– early-bird fee until 10. Jan. 2015
235.- student fee
290,– for STL participants

Neuschmid meanwhile runs his own counseling company in Switzerland, together with his second wife who also registered the company's website:

http://www.empowering-team.ch/page_right.php?pageID=63&elementID=685&moduleID=9094
Barbara Valeh
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Background & Profession:
Barbara (born 1971) is from Switzerland and lives in Zürich with husband Josef. Since 14 years, she is a grammar school teacher in Zurich.
Education & Experience:
From modern psychology and brain research until ancient philosophie and spirituality – Barbara is open for everything which proves itself in practical life. For more than 20 years, she has been busy with issues of personal development […].
Some important stations of learning were the training to become a Cert. Integral Coach ECA and Diploma Mental Coach ECA as well as the education in psychology with Dr Chuck Spezzano. Further sources of inspiriation are American success coaches like Anthony Robbins and teachers like Eckhart Tolle.
Barbara has been coaching adults for more than five years – who likes to advance in large steps is okay here. She is teaching courses in the fields of personal development and emotional intelligence since 2010.

Josef Neuschmid
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Background & Profession:

Josef (born 1960) is from Austria and lives in Zurich with his wife Barbara. He is an alternative practician for more than 20 years, an expert for diets, vital substances, and orthomolecular medicine.
Education & Experience:
From his practical experience as a dietetcally schooled chef unto as a lecturer for orthomolecular medicine at a school for alternative praciticians, Josef gathered long-term experience in many fields of adult education. Apart from this, for more than 20 years he has been into modern psychology, happiness research and success principles, as taught by Dr Chuck Spezzano, Harald Wessbecher, Frank Kinslow, and Anthony Robbins.
Since 1998, Josef is organising seminars for Chuck Spezzano where he also gathered rich experience as a group leader. […]
Neuschmid also maintains his own website as a „vital expert“.


Another person who does not offer any courses or seminars, but seems to have an important position within PoV and/or PoV-DACH is Django Hediger who is a longterm member of PoV, too.

With his wife Bianca Hediger (née Früh), Hediger runs an event company named „Powerful Events“. The company organises and advertises seminars with Spezzano.
In 2014, the Hedigers bought an event location in the vicinity of Cologne; its website mentions them as CEOs:
http://www.kupfersiefermuehle.de/impressum.htm?print=1

Hediger is a registrant/admin of several PoV websites either on his own or with his wife Bianca:

http://www.psychologyofvision-shop.de/impressum/
According to the imprint, both Hediger and Früh are CEOs, and the PoV shop is run by a company named „Hediger & Früh GbR“ (GbR = partnership under ther Civil Code).

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Hediger & Früh GbR
Im Rott xxx
xxx Ratingen
E-Mail shop@psychologyofvisionxxx.xx
[...]
vertretungsberechtigter Gesellschafter
Django Hediger
Bianca Früh

Hediger resp. the Hediger & Hediger GbR  is also registrant and admin of the site „The truth about Chuck and Lency Spezzano“:

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com.html

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Registrant Name: Django Hediger
Registrant Organization: Hediger & Hediger GbR
Registrant Street: Grosshecker Weg xx
Registrant Postal Code: 51503
Registrant Citry: Roesrath
Registrant Country: DE

Another site registered by Hediger is „About Psychology of Vision.com“:

http://www.domaintuno.com/d/about-psychology-of-vision.com

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About-psychology-of-vision.com is 12 months old . The website was registered by Django Hediger and has its servers in Germany . The site has a Pagerank of 0, which suggests that it is not so well connected on the internet.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 06, 2015, 02:37:54 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano has just appeared in a new Youtube promoting his upcoming book tour in Central Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G122CJhtGok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G122CJhtGok)

This appears to be filmed in Hawaii at the Spezzano property. Camera work by Christopher Spezzano, editing and production by Django Hediger.

Not a real dynamic presentation. Other than the usual Buy My Book pitch I found an interesting sideline oneliner where Vincent LaDuke is quoted. It can be found at 2:19. Enjoy:

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As the Native American Sun Bear said, "It has to grow corn."

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 09, 2015, 12:25:58 am
This new video by Spezzano uses the song Our Hearts Have Been Misplaced in a Secret Location by Uniform Motion. Credit is given at the end of the video, I've included the visual clip here. The visual clip also makes the point that this music is used for a commercial venture. The video is to promote a book and commercial events by the Spezzanos.

But the song is not supposed to be used commercially. It has been released under a "some rights reserved" Creative Commons license. http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com/track/our-hearts-have-been-misplaced-in-a-secret-location-3 (http://uniformmotion.bandcamp.com/track/our-hearts-have-been-misplaced-in-a-secret-location-3)

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NonCommercial — You may not use the material for commercial purposes

The good people at Uniform Motion now know about this situation. They do not want their songs used commercially. They have initiated a thoughtful discussion on their Facebook page that includes links to NAFPS and Psiram concerning the Spezzanos.

Unfortunately Psychology of Vision plays fast and loose with other people's work. They still have not removed all plagiarizing of the author Rasha's work, for instance, from their related web pages. 

This recent video by Chuck and crew needs to be taken off the web. The song in question needs to be taken out and replaced by something that they have full permission to use commercially.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 10, 2015, 04:09:23 pm
Considering SALPOV is a for-profit commercial enterprise bereft of original ideas which forces them to, er, "borrow" almost everything it peddles, from A Course in Miracles, the Trask Triangle, Oneness University, stage hypnotists, and Large Group Awareness Training cult techniques, the use of Uniform Motion's music without permission seems totally natural. 

Remember over a year ago when the author and spiritual teacher Rasha asked the SALPOV trainers in Prince Rupert, BC to remove her name from their marketing? There was no way she wanted to be associated with SALPOV. Well guess what, this is still up online--

http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/ (http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/)

I have clipped and attached the images for those readers who are signed in.

This same duo have recently posted another "5th Dimension" workshop with similar wording but no mention of Rasha--

http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=71 (http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=71)

For a group that includes "Steps to Leadership" and New Age "Emotional Intelligence" in the workplace as part of their curriculum, SALPOV has some pretty sadass business ethics. They just take what they want in order to make a buck. Its all about the money. Which in Europe is, and I'm not kidding, deposited in a Swiss bank account.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665)

It appears Uniform Motion's Our Hearts Have Been Misplaced in a Secret Location has been on several Spezzano promotional videos for the German/Swiss tours and used without permission for two or three years.  Hopefully Uniform Motion will have better luck than Rasha did in dealing with SALPOV. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 16, 2015, 01:42:49 pm
I had a look at persons selling courses in „Steps to Leadership“, PoV, and/or VisionWorks in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland resp using their participation in PoV/STL/VW seminars and their employing PoV methods to promote their business. As far as these person mention previous, or current, employment resp vocational trainings, these are mentioned below, too.


Switzerland

Alexandra Angermann, Basel/Switzerland

is a manager in Forbo Management Training
https://ch.linkedin.com/in/alexandraangermann

previously (until 2005) CEO in Psychology of Vision DACH
http://www.moneyhouse.ch/p/Alexandra-Angermann%2BStieger


Ursula Garo, Gwatt/Switzerland

http://www.ursulagaro.ch/prod05.htm

According to her biographical info, Garo has been a primary school teacher between 1983 and 1993. From 1992, she opened her own office selling kinesiology and other seminars. From 1996 on, she added Family Constellations according to Bert Hellinger, and from 1999 on sold constellation seminars. From 2004, she also sells one-day seminars „Follow the voice of your heart“ which are said to be based on „concepts, models and constallation according to Psychology of Vision by Dr Chuck Spezzano and Lency Spezzano from Hawaii“, and STL courses. Garo got involved with PoV through a lecture by Spezzano in 1996.

Garo does not provide info regarding any course of studies in psychology or medicine apart from various Newage methods (kinesiology, constellations/Hellinger, PoV)


Christoph Müller, Basel/Switzerland

From the info provided in his LinkedIn profile, Müller might have booked an STL course; it is not quite clear whether he also taught STL courses. However, he is using the STL course to promote his business activities and may seek to proselytise business contacts and employees:

https://ch.linkedin.com/in/logisticchmueller


Karin Eva Möckel-Brandt, Würenlos/Switzerland

Möckel-Brandt was born 1963 and also is a massage therapist/balneotherapist by profession, but later on changed to Water Shiatsu.

http://www.koerperwellen.ch/ueber_mich.html

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I also did a one-year's course – Steps to Leadership – and further seminars on the depth psychology according to Dr Chuck Spezzano. This knowledge accompanies and supports me and my clients in my work.


Christian Moser, Zollikerberg/Switzerland

Moser offers Neuro-Feedback therapies, personality development, consciousness training, quantum medicine. He works at Casa Vitale:  http://www.casa-vitale.ch/neurofeedback/   , but also runs his own website at alphaflow dot ch which is for his company CMMF CONSULTING GMBH.
On his website, he claims to be recognised by a Swiss Foundation for Complementarly Medicine. Moser did several trainings in Matrix and Quantum healing,
For 2014, he lists three PoV courses: „Communicational training, seminar „Emotional Intelligence and Maturity“ with Dr Chuck Spezzano, training to Steps to Leadership according to Dr Chuck Spezzano, PoV Communcational training, seminar „LOVING – LIVING – HEALING“ with Dr Chuck Spezzano“. 

Moser further explains:
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The spiritual psychology I employ is a model of emotional intelligence which leads to a deeper consciousness and understanding of our self and our relationships. It is a path of the heart, miraculously combining spirituality and psychology. The methods and tools were developed by Dr Chuck and Lency Spezzano in the search for a better path.

On his CMMF website, Moser also mentions grades in communication science, economics, and geology. He describes his career as having started out in consulting in a small company in Zurich, then became a brand manager with a large pharma company, a marketing and sales manager in the segment of luxury goods, and an account director in a renowed advertising agency.


Susan Tschopp, Arlesheim/Switzerland

According to her website, Tschopp was born in 1969 and has furthered her gift of intuition and perception since her childhood. She claims trainings in body therapies and various fields of energetic psychology. Among the trainings mentioned are Shiatsu, Bach blossoms, telepathic communication, cluster medicine, pentalogy, Frequency Therapy according to Hulda Clark, and in 2012/2013 an STL course with Rebecca Wildi (trainer level 1 – see above) and Chuck Spezzano.
http://susan-tschopp-eft.ch/SUSAN_TSCHOPP/Uber_mich.html 


Annamaria Giustolisi, Chüsseberg/Switzerland

Born 1955 in Catania/Sicily, Guistolisi grew up in Switzerland, did a commercial training and worked as a secretary to the management of companies in Zurich and Bern. Presently, she is an „MET therapist and Quantum Energy Coach“ and „The experience I was able to make with „Steps to Leadership of Psychology of Vision (according to Dr Chuck Spezzano) additionally support my work in a wonderful way“. (see: http://giustolisi.ch/index.php?id=12#.VMMWIfg24UQ  )


Ruud Verstappen, Sirnach/Switzerland

Verstappen, born 1963 in the Netherlands, seems to have done a course in physiotherapy at a university of applied science (from 1982 to 1988). Later trainings were in pseudo-scientific methods, e.g. as a Cranio-Sacral therapist (2002-2005), in Psychology of Vision (since 2007) and as a Oneness Deeksha Giver (since 2011). He has his own office and uses pseudo-scientific Craniosacral Therapy and PoV methods in his work with patients ( http://www.physiosirnach.ch/coaching_lebensberatung.html ).


Theresa Dätwyler, Isabel Bart – Switzerland

The site lacks a proper imprint, therefore the office kept by Dätwyler and Bart cannot be located.

Dätwyler, born 1963, is a kindergarten nurse and later worked with mentally and physically handicapped persons. In 1994, she started as a massager, in 2000 did a training in Craniosacral Therapy, in 2007 a seminar in STL with Ursula Garo (see above), and in 2009 Family Constellations according to Hellinger.

Bart, born 1970, a hairdresser by original profession, is self-employed since 1995. She started out with the 2007 STL seminar with Ursula Garo and from then on took the same seminars and trainings as a business partner Dätwyler ( http://www.aufstellungsarbeit.ch/aktuell/index.html  ).


Janine Marianne Baumann, Pfungen/Switzerland

Baumann, born 1962, originally did a commercial training and worked for insurances, banks, and a software company. Since 2012, she runs an office for hypnotherapy. Among the methods Baumann offers are past-life regression (2000), systemic hypnotherapy (since 1998), Radionics, Quantum Healing, quadrinity pricess, yoga, radical forgiving according to Tipping, Touch for Health.

Between 2010 and 2014, Baumann lists five PoV seminars with Chuck Spezzano, one with Jeff Allen, and an STL course with Kurt Sommer (see above) from April-Oct 2014.
( http://www.jmb-hypnotherapie.com/ausbildung.html )


Isabelle Dettwiler, Biel/Switzerland

Dettwiler, born 1969, claims to be a notary by profession which should mean she studied law, however, she does not mention any resp course of studies in her CV. She claims various trainings, e.g. an STL seminar with Ursula Garo (see above), in past-life regression therapy, an Angel Trainer programme by Doreen Virtue taught by Charles Virtue, Reiki, Matrix Live, etc. ( http://www.rinbiel.com/zu-meiner-Person.html  )


Monika Oswald, Erlenbach/Switzerland

Oswald, born 1966, also experienced several crises in her life which made her join self-help groups and therapies. She is a bureau clerk, has worked as a secretary, and presently is employed with SHAB (commercial gazette) in Bern as a technical editor. Oswald also offers counseling and claims various trainings in her CV: STL with Ursula Garo (see above), Reiki I – III, Family Constellations according to Hellinger, healing stones ( http://www.monikaoswald.ch/page8.html  ).


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 16, 2015, 01:45:37 pm
Austria

The fairly low number of PoV/STL trainers in Austria reflects the legal situation given in this country which makes alternative healers illegal; licences as altmed healers cannot be obtained. So vendors there will be restricted to persons claiming to do management counseling, life counseling etc, but these treatments are not covered by health insurances and have to be paid by patients.


Elisabeth Pointner, Vienna/Austria

No further info available, no website. Pointner seems to have done STL courses.


Johanna Schmauszer, Salzburg/Austria

Schmauszer's website promotes an STL course taught in 2012 and since then has not been updated. She also offers individual coaching. No education or qualifications mentioned, apart from vague claims of faith healing and other Newage methods.
http://bewusst-sein.biz/impressum.html


Gabriele Hanser, Lienz/Austria

http://www.gabrielehanser.com/%C3%BCber-mich/

Hanser did various Newage trainings, e.g. Reiki, Access Consciousness, Qigong. She also did an STL course in 2004-5. Hanser does not mention any previous professional training, and she is rather cautious on her website about her present activities.


Günter Kerschbaummayr, Vienna/Austria

Kerschbaummayr did a course of studies in International Business Studies in Vienna which he finished in 1995. He claims a postgraduate course in „Communication & NLP“ at Corvinus University in Budapest/Hungary which he finished with an M.Sc. in 2003. Since this university is a renowned institution, one may wonder about the NLP course, and Kerschbaummayr also claims he became an NLP  Master Practitioner in Vienna/Austria 2000-2002. In 2014, he did an STL course and claims several trainings in Matrix Energy Work. He further claims various other trainings, e.g. with Susanne Ernst (PoV trainer and CEO of POV DACH GmbH) and Chuck Spezzano, as well as trainings in a „shamanic setting (Don Agustin, Hiah Park, Shipibo from Peru, Oona & Azuni“. According to his CV, he has a teaching assignment at Vienna Polytechnic for Business Management (see: http://www.kerschbaummayr.com/hp/uebermich.php?subaction=showfull&id=1282383485&archive=&start_from=&ucat=27&   ).

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 16, 2015, 02:27:28 pm
Germany

As there seems to be quite a substantial number of PoV/STL vendors in the federal state of Bavaria, these will be listed separately below.

Donat Wollny, Berlin
runs a management counseling and project coaching in planning and running hospitals
original profession: geologist
Wollny is mentioned on the website VisionWorks for Life as a regular vendor of STL courses ( http://visionworksforlife.de/facilitators-and-groups/ ).


Petra Hornung, Hamburg

Alternative healer and Bio-Energy Therapist: http://www.petra-hornung.info/
The 'qualifications' mentioned are all Nuage (e.g. spiritual healing, mental-energetic spine straightening, Bio-Energy therapist [school of Kryon - https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Lee_Carroll ], cranio-sacral therapy, acupuncture, NLP, Reiki).
Additionally, she is a teacher at a school training alternative practicians for the test done by authorities: http://dhpa.de/interessierte/die-dozenten/ . Hornung says she has been an alternative healer "for more than then years", but does not mention any previous qualifications or employment.


Karola Langguth, Wiesbaden/Hessia

http://www.musiktherapie-langguth.de/

Claims to be a musical therapist, but provides no info regarding any education. Langguth seems to combine musical therapy with both STL and Joining. The only course explicitely offered at her website is an STL course which will start in September 2015.
Fee: Regular € 1,450, early birds: € 1,290, couples/repeaters: € 1,290.

http://www.musiktherapie-langguth.de/angebote/steps-to-leadership/


Ellen Schneider, Pirna/Saxony

No website.
Schneider started teaching a course "STL - Success and Fulfillment in your Career" in January 2015 ( http://www.psychologieverbindet.de/index.php?seite=25 )

At a PDF published at the same site ( http://www.psychologieverbindet.de/downloads/Steps_to_Business_Ellen.pdf ), Schneider describes her background:
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I am learning the principles of POV and Vision Works since 2007, in 2013 I graduated from the 100 Day Program and started a training as a mediator in 2014. I am a landscape architect by original profession.



Paribhasha Steitz, Frankfurt/Hessia

http://www.beatebrueggemeier.de/ueber-uns/team/

Qualifications mentioned: „trainer and coach, event manager
Steitz also works for „Frankfurter Ring“, a non-profit organisation which regularly is organising and advertising lectures and seminars with Spezzano (and a multitude of other Nuage charlatans). She is mentioned with an FR e-mail address as responsible for „organisation“:

http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/uploads/media/frm_2011_1_internet.pdf

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Paribhasha Steitz
Organisation
psteitz@frankfurter-xxx 

Some biographic info in an ad for an STL course offered by Steitz:
http://www.partytimes.de/de-de/veranstaltungen/hessen/frankfurt/Steps+to+Leadership+-+eine+spannende+Heilungsreise+zu+Dir+selbst.html

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Monday, Oct 27, 2014, 19:00
„... I got to know various techniques of meditation and ways of life. … Energetic healing ways and research of group consciousness has accompanied me for many years. During my 15 years at Frankfurter Ring in the department of organising events, I met many renowned teachers of our times. Besides non-violent communication, my basis is Dr Marshall Rosenberg (since 2006), Essence Training, Kabir Jaffe and Ritama Davidson (since 1998). Work with Psychology of Vision, Chuck & Lency Spezzano (since 1999) is my favourite since it is so life-affirming and supportive.“


Silvia Stiessel, Dresden/Saxony

Stiessel seems to be a fairly new addition to the group of persons selling STL courses and advertising quite aggressively: http://www.psychologieverbindet.de/index.php?seite=2

In typical PoV-speak, Stiessel explains:
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My re-orientation began, when I got to know a medical model in 2010 which explains the cooperation of psyche, brain, and body in diseases. It was the first time I had the impression I was told something which feels true to me. Since I first wanted to learn more about human psyche from the point of view of conventional medicine, I started a training in psychological counseling and got to know different psychological approaches and views. On my path, I met „Psychology of Vision“ and „A Course in Miracles“. The knowledge taught here fascinated me so much I started to study and apply it.
emphasis added by me

Despite Stiessel's claims to have done a training in psychological counseling, she does not provide any further information. Therefore, this may have been based on scientific methods, or may have been more quack like PoV and ACIM.
Apparently, Stiessel was introduced to the „Healing Keys“ theories on which Spezzano published a book with Janie Ticehurst resp Janie E. Patrick which has been mentioned several times in this thread.


Jeanette Weyer, Hamminkeln/Northrhine-Westfalia (NRW)

https://www.xing.com/profile/Jeanette_Weyer

According to her Xing profile, Weyer is an alternative healer restricted to psychotherapy and a holistic integrative breath therapist. On her own website, she explains:

http://www.jeanette-weyer.de/

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I am an alternative practician with an additional training in psychotherapy, homeopathy, acupuncture and naturopathic treatment. Additionally, I have some 25 years of experience in human medicine and did several special trainings in this field.
At the Institute of Holistic Integrative Breath Therapy I was trained as a breath therapist and as a trainer for personal development by Tilke Platteel-Deur and Hans Mensink.
With Dr Chuck Spezzano, an internationally teaching US-American depth psychologist, I finished his 100-Day Training and graduated in April 2005. When I first got to know the work of Dr Chuck Spezzano in 2000, I was deeply moved. My life changed positively thanks to PoV principles which supported and strengthened me and my relationship to my husband. It is a way of healing which at the same time includes spirituality. The focus in this work is on healing, not on the problem.

This points out Weyer is a staunch long-term PoVer. Despite her claims to have been trained in the field of medicine, Weyer does not specify any of these trainings while meticulously listing her altmed and Newage trainings.


Michael Leckel, Frechen/NRW

According to his site, Leckel is an occupational therapist, but the only services mentioned is an STL course he sold in 2013/2014. While Leckel does not provide info re his qualifications and education, he emphasises PoV and the Spezzanos:

http://www.seminare-leckel.de/

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Steps to Leadership was set up during several years of work by Jeff Allen – Master Trainer – and is the basis for understanding Psychology of Vision. He has summarised the key models and the therapeutic methods into a coordinated training programme.
Psychology of Vision is viewed as a major new schools of 21st century and is based on the principles of depth psychology which are being taught in seminars, individual coachings, books, and publications since more than 30 years. ...
The model was developed by Dr Chuck Spezzano and his wife Lency. It teaches emotional intelligence, as it reminds us of our own true self and takes us closer to it.


Heike Blaue, Flensburg/Schleswig-Holstein

Blaue is an employee in a counseling office where she offers seminars. She claims the following qualifications: kindergarten nurse, coach, basic course Coaching, coaching of couples at Bielefeld Akademie, Steps to Leadership.
The company, familylab, offers both lectures for business clients and lectures, seminars etc counseling parents.

http://www.familylab.de/seminarleiter.asp?AjrDcmntId=914


Eva Verpoort, Wesel/NRW

Verpoort describes herself as a licenced massage therapist and balneotherapist, and a holistic integrative breath therapist; at the moment she says she is taking a course to become an alternative practician/psychotherapy.

http://www.eva-verpoort.de/zurperson.html

Among the advanced trainings she claims is STL, „a one year training in methods and bascis in the depth psychology healing method according to Lency and Dr Chuck Spezzano“.
Apart from this she also claims practical courses in chiropractic, cranio-sacral therapy, and osteopathy, all of those belong to the realm of alternative methods with no proven efficacy and which might even be harmful to the patient.


Eugen Schnabel, Neuss/NRW

Schnabel is a licenced vet with a course of studies at a regular university, but included various altmed methods (e.g. homeopathy) over the years. He claims two PoV trainings:
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Psychology of Vision according to Chuck Spezzano – year's training „Steps to Leadership“ in 2005, and a year's training „Spiritual Leadership“ in 2006“
http://www.dr-schabel-tiergesundheit.de/index.php/team/dr-eugen-schabel


Annette Dimitrow, Frechen/NRW

Dimitrow is an ophthalmologist with her own office since 1997. While she seemed to have been licenced as a panel doctor initially, she is no longer licenced since 2010 and only sees private patients, although she remains in her function as a doctor for the miners' association.

Dimitrow claims to have graduated from „'30 Steps to Leadership' according to Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision“ in 2011.
http://www.privat-augenarzt-praxis.de/vita


Heidemarie Sewe, Hamburg

An alternative healer since 1993, Sewe has been running her own office since. She claims trainings as a „prana healer“, a Reiki master and teacher, and of being able to function and diagnose as a „healing medium“, in which she was supported by „intuitive gifts and several decades of experience“.

http://www.heidemarie-sewe.de/meine-praxis/vita/
Her list of qualifications also mentions trainings with „Russian healers“, Bach blossoms, Aura Soma etc. From 2003 to 2006, she mentions „Steps to Leadership and Spiritual Leadership training in Psychology of Vision“. Sewe does not mention any previous employment or qualifications.


Heidi Stein, NRW

Stein works in an office of holistic integrative breath therapy. The site has an imprint claiming an address in the town of Naarden, Netherlands.

http://www.atemarbeit.com/dozent/heidi-stein-atemtherapeutin/

Stein publishes a list of qualifications obtained between 1986 and 2012, all of them in the field of Nuage/altmed, among them Silva Mind Control, Sky Dancing Tantra/Margot Anand, various Tantra trainings, hypnotherapy, NLP, etc., beginning in 1986. In 2005, she did „various seminars with Chuck Spezzano, Jeff Allen, July Wooky [sic]“ and in 2006 she did a course in STL. No previous emplyoment or qualifications mentioned.


Sebastian Graf, Konstanz/Baden-Württemberg (BW)

Graf is an alternative healer with a multitude of „trainings“, among them:

http://graf-praxis.de/ausbildung/ausbildung.html

Training as an alternative healer: 3 years, training NLP practitioner, private coaching acupuncture, three courses of three months each, hypnocoaching, kinesiology, crane acupuncture, Theta Healing, psycho-kinesiology, etc. He also mentions a 12-day course in „30 Steps to Leadership“ according to Chuck Spezzano with trainer Peter Reiter.

Graf mentions he was born in 1970, but his CV starts with his training as an alternative healer in 2000, when he in fact was 30 years of age, so there is quite a gap in his CV. He does not mention previous jobs.


Nanna Bäumer resp Susanne Bäumer, Berlin

Bäumer, born 1958, is a psychologist and claims to be licenced by health insurances since 1988, working in psychotherapy since 1984. She uses NLP in her work and claims further trainings in personal development (Art Reade), psycho-kinesiology, PoV, STL, and „PoV and addiction“.
http://www.nannabaeumer.de/NannaBaeumer.php

It must be by sheer coincidence that the website, as of today (Feb 19, 2015), has been taken down since my posting this list. However, Bäumer is also active under her legal name "Susanne" and has authored books sold by Nuage publishers Koha who provide the following info on their author:
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Dipl.-Psych. Susanne Bäumer, born December 12, 1958 in the town of Münster, studied psychology and philosophy at TU Berlin. She was licenced for behaviour therapy. Since 30 years, she runs her own office as a psychological psychotherapist in Berlin. On her long journey healing herself, she discovered her passion for consciousness research and consciousness development. In her therapeutic work, she therefore more and more combines psychological and spiritual therapy. With her books, she means to give access to her long-term experience to the broad public in every-day language.

http://www.koha-verlag.de/autoren/info/autor/susanne-baeumer.html

Bäumer also keeps a "shop" at a German-language Nuage platform:
http://www.momanda.de/profil/susannebaeumer



Dr Matthias Becker, Darmstadt/Hessia
http://www.bentner.de/index.php?page_id=18

Becker, born 1963, is a medical doctor and psychiatrist who integrates several Nuage/altmed methods (e.g. naturopathy, alternative healer, and a course in STL).


Johanne (Tara) Liesegang, Cologne/NRW

According to a platform promoting altmed and Nuage healers, Liesegang is a „mediumistic health counselor, a journey coach, an art therapist, and a remedial teacher with a diploma ( http://www.therapeuten.de/listen/info/id/1099/  ). She claims further trainings in/with Yoga, Reiki, Osho, Aura reading, [...] Lightwork, Prana healing, PoV, Cranial Balancing/Chris Griscom, and she is a Questico counselor. She also offers support in „conflictolysis“ which means she is a supporter of so-called „Germanic New Medicine“ invented by former MD Ryke Geerd Hamer, a staunch anti-semite claiming Jewish doctors were killing off gentile patients with chemotherapy while healing their own with his GNM (see: https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Germanic_New_Medicine  , https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Ryke_Geerd_Hamer  ).
No information regarding previous employment and qualifications available.


Annette Kastelan, Hoisdorf/Schleswig-Holstein

According to information provided by Kastelan, her main source of inspiration is „A Course in Miracles“, as well as „books by Eckart Tolle, Neal Donald Walsch, Chuck Spezzano, and Kryon“.
Her CV states she originally was a kindergarten nurse, then became a hotel clerk; both undated. From 1998-2001 she became a Yoga teacher, in 2000 did a Reiki training, between 2001 and 2006 several trainings in Ayurveda. In 2010, she did an „initiation in 'energetic alchemy with Dorothy Lee Donahue in L.A., and a year's course STL. Since 2010 she claims several seminars with PoV and School of Wonders (see: http://www.surya-net.de/uber-mich  ).


Gerd Kühnen né Stöß, Bühl/BW

http://seminarcircle.com/Gerdsberatung/Uber_mich.html

Kühnen did an apprenticeship as an office clerk and later on became a CEO with a shoe producer. At the same time, he was active in DLRG (German Life Saving Association), in particular working with children and adolescents. He is a VisionWorks coach and ran the German-language VW website for several years. Kühnen and his wife both wrote testimonials for the website „The Truth about Chuck and Lency“.


Hans Böing-Messing, Bocholt/NRW

Böing-Messing is a Coach and Psychopedist, a „Professional Certified Reteaming Coach, MentorTime Life Coaching, Practical Groups with Sedona method for the fields of health/vitality, job/career, harmony within relationships“ and also mentions „Quantum physics“. His imprint mentions that STL was a „trade mark registered by Jeff Allen, PoV“, but otherwise does not refer to STL or PoV on his site.
http://www.releasing-praxis.com/%C3%BCber-mich/
No previous emplyoment and qualifications mentioned.


Beatrixe Haußmann, Moers/NRW

Haußmann, born 1963, has her own office as an alternative healer and mentions several trainings, among them Craniosacral Therapy, Osteopathy, hypnosis etc.

Her „About me“ section lists several further courses and trainings between 1988 and 2014, e.g. in Body Dearmoring in 2012 which is done by Deer Tribe, and additionally claims she was an apprentice with „Dr. Diane Seadancer Battung“ since 2006 who is a long-term supporter/member of the Deer Tribe. In 2009-2010, Haußmann claims an STL course with Jeanette Weyer (see above).
(http://www.b-haussmann.de/Uebermich/ausbildung.html   )
No previous employment and qualifications mentioned.


Marlene Holzer-Steinfeld, Remagen/NRW

Holzer-Steinfeld, born 1957, has been an alternative healer since 2002, with her own office since 2005.
Since 2012, she has done several seminars on communication's trainings according to PoV and an STL course on „basics and application of depth psychology, relationship and family dynamics, leadership characteristics, emotional intelligence and social competence“.
( http://www.praxis-holzer-steinfeld.de/ubermich.html )
No previous employment and qualifications mentioned.


Christof Faber, Wiesloch/BaWü

Faber claims to be a „counselor, coach, and trainer“. He claims to have become a „licenced (diploma) art therapist and teacher“ initially, then a „licenced (diploma) Waldorf teacher and eurythmics teacher“; further qualifications he mentions are a „certified mediator“ and „certified coach“. It must be noted that Faber does not provide any more details regarding which university he attended (this will appy to the first profession listed). Any teachers' training Waldorf schools do is not state licenced and does not earn any diploma (except perhaps for a worthless one issued by an anthroposophic source), while the latter two qualifications seem to be Nuage. 

In the category „particular experience and knowledge“ he lists: Strengths Performance Coach/Gallup, short time therapy, conflict management, NLP, Byron Kathie School of Work, Forgiving, and „energetic healing methods (Dr Kam Yuen; Chuck Spezzano; F. Kinslow; M. Ighesan etc)“. ( http://www.myexcellence.de/wer-wir-sind/christof-faber/  )

The site has been recently established (Jan 2015). Both Faber and his co-partner apparently mean to be active as management consultants; all seminars sold by them are said to aim at „management and employees“. ( http://www.myexcellence.de/was-wir-tun/ueberblick/  )


addition Feb 21, 2015

Dominik Brünner, Berlin

Brünner obtained an MA in Education with minors in psychology and ethnology, and added an actor's training and a training to become a clown. According to his CV ( http://www.dominikbruenner.de/ueber-mich.html  ), he began working as a trainer for body language and self-effective communication in 2007. Additionally to his own enterprise, he opened up another consulting office with a partner ( http://www.modernes-unternehmen.de/  ) - the references listed on that site, however, are all merits his business partner Annette Leeb gathered. On the website maintained by Brünner & Leeb GmbH, Brünner also describes himself as an „actor and clown“ ( http://www.modernes-unternehmen.de/ueber-uns/  ).

While his LinkedIn profile does not mention PoV, his XING profile says:
„Vocational training 2012-2013:
Psychology of Vision
Steps to Leadership
Communication and Leadership Skills, Understanding Relationships and Family Dynamics, Knowledge and Use of Transformational Processes.“
( https://www.xing.com/profile/Dominik_Bruenner  )

The list of trainings also mentions one in „Initiatic Therapy“ in 2005-2006. This is a non-recognized method whose effectiveness seems to be under considerable criticism. Having done psychology as a minor for his MA in education, Brünner is in no way qualified for any therapy or getting trained in one (the range of seminars offered for students taking minors usually is related to the major's course they take, in his case education).

Brünner is also a recent addition to the list of STL trainers at the VisionWorks site. From April 18 to June 7, 2015, Brünner will be teachig a course of „12 Steps to Conscious Business“. (http://www.pov-int.eu/termine/  ).




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 16, 2015, 02:43:40 pm
contd - Germany/Bavaria

Lotta Gaber, Munich

Her website provides little info except for advertising a course in STL done by Gaber which will start in March 2015
http://lottagaber.jimdo.com/sitemap/?mobile=1

https://de.linkedin.com/pub/lotta-gaber/7a/101/22b
According to her profile at LinkedIn, the only qualification Gaber mentions is „alternative healer“, although she claims to have held employment with German airlines Lufthansa for 18 years and at a lawyer's office. She also claims to be a Yoga teacher.


Nirvana Verena Moser, Donaueschingen/Bavaria

From her Facebook site, she is into various Nuage methods/authors, like e.g. Eckart Tolle, Neale Donald Walsch, as well as VisionWorks for Life.
https://www.facebook.com/verena.moser.12


Ursula Schnell, Friedberg/Bavaria

http://www.ursula-schnell.de/uebermich2.html

Schnell claims to have been trained as a medical-technical assistant and to have worked in various hospitals and doctor's offices, followed by obtaining a permit as an alternative healer (no date specified), and working in her own office since 1997. Among the „international special trainings“ Schnell mentions is „Dr Chuck Spezzano“.


Franz Leckel, Aresing/Bavaria

Leckel runs his own business as a management consultant offering various Newage methods (e.g. a seminar titled „Geomantic time travel to the pyramids in Bosnia“ …). He also does a two-year course in „Spiritual Leadership“ lasting from January 2014 to September 2015. Leckel is also mentioned by a few STL vendors who claim him as their STL teacher.
http://www.franz-leckel.de/index.php?m=4&u=1&show=19


Monika Redl-Janßen, Soyen/Bavaria

Redl-Jenßen presently does an STL course under the label of „Steps to Enlightenment“ lasting from May 2014 to May 2015, and another course „Steps to Enlightenment Advanced“. Further „healing seminars“ are advertised with the description of „based on the work of Dr Chuck Spezzano“.
According to info provided on her site, Redl-Jenßen takes credit for having registered „Steps to Enlightenment“. However, the course is done in 30 modules, same as STL, and the topcis covered by these particular modules also resemble those in STL as taught be PoV.
Redl-Jenßen does not provide information regarding previous employment and qualifications.
http://www.bewusst-sein.de/teilnehmer.htm


Barbara Tollmann, Nordendorf/Bavaria

http://www.tollmann.de/download/STL2012_FlyerA4_Tollmann.pdf

According to a flyer, Tollmann describes herself as „born 1965, a PoV facilitator, psychological life counseling through kinesiology, systemic family constellations, faith healing, and Tarot“.
She claims to have been trained as a bank clerk initially, but to have taken a strong interest in alternative healing since the age of 20. Among the „trainings“ Tollmann mentions: „kinesiology, psychological life counseling, Tarot, systemic family constellations, physiognomy, numerology and much more“. She has done counseling since 1997 and has met Dr Chuck Spezzano „several years ago“: „The combination of psychological knowledge with simple methods of healing and a deep spirituality made me take further large steps in my own development with ease and joy“.


Sabine Kaiser, Munich/Bavaria

http://www.kaiser-kommunikationstraining.de/vita.html
According to her website, Kaiser studied Social- and Economic Geography, but worked in the management of a renowned Munich fashion store, later changing to event management after an according training. In 2009, she did a training in Steps to Leadership and also became a trainer of VisionWorks. Additionally, she was trained in QCT Quantum Consciousness Transformation).

http://www.kaiser-kommunikationstraining.de/aktuelles.html

Kaiser claims to do VW courses at schools, e.g. „in July 2011, Kaiser Communications Training did a seminar on Vision Works in the 9th grade of a Munich Secondary Modern School“ with students coming mainly from a „socially deprived environment and migrant background“.
In 2012, she did a one-year VW course at another unmentioned school. The course is said to have been financed by Munich Caritas, a Catholic welfare organisation.
According to info provided by Kaiser, a complete VW seminar of 20 hours will cost € 2,400. A course in personality development for adults, or an STL course of eight weekends and two additional weekend workshops will amount to € 1,150 – the two workshops not included in this amount ( http://www.kaiser-kommunikationstraining.de/preise.html  ).

Another website (http://www.medi-cine-akademie.de/dozenten/coaching-team.html  ) characterises Kaiser as a self-employed coach and event organiser since 2005, with additional trainings in Steps to Leadership and as a VisionWorks trainer, „both innovative models of communications of emiotional intelligence for adults as well as children and adolescents“.


Corinna Sowieja, Meitingen/Bavaria

Another alternative practician/psychotherapy. Sowieja mentions she was a kindergarten nurse and worked „with children, adolescents and young adults, and their resp families, with various disturbances and handicaps“. She has also had trainings in NLP and kinesiology and did a training in „Steps to Leadership“ with Ursula Schnell and Franz Leckel (see above).

http://www.corinna-sowieja.de/ich/qualifikation.html


Claudia Zacherl, Ingolstadt/Bavaria

http://www.claudia-zacherl.de/ueber_mich.htm

Born 1963, Zacherl claims a training in a profession in the field of technology, but says she did further trainings in colour design and colour psychology which led her to psychotherapy. She is an alternative practician with her own office since 2010. Zacherl mentions a course in „Steps to Leadership, depth psychological methods and basics according to Dr Chuck Spezzano“ which she did with Kurt Sommer (see above, PoV trainer level 1).


Susanne Wohlhüter, Landsberg/Bavaria

Wohlhüter is a former bank manager who turned vendor of Newage garbage
( https://www.xing.com/profile/Susanne_Wohlhueter  ), although her bio claims she is still employed with a bank: „I meet many persons in my professional environment as an Associate Director of a German special bank“.
One of the banks she worked for was Hypo Real Estate, a bank whose name has a very bad sound with the German public (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypo_Real_Estate  ). Wohlhüter describes her present profession as a „Psycho-Physiognomist“ (since 2008) and claims to have done a nine-months training and obtained a licence. „Psycho-physiognomy“ is pure pseudo-science, and lacks scientific recognition (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiognomy  ). Wohlhüter also claims to do trainings in individual and group coaching according to the methods of Dr Chuck Spezzano from Jan 2013.


Christiane Sivani Drumm, Munich/Bavaria

Drumm, born 1962, claims to be a Management Assistant and an ILP coach. ILP is an abbreviation for Integrated Solution-focussed Psychotherapy, an NLP-based method which is not scientifically recognized. She holds a licence as an alternative healer/psychotherapy and claims a „5 years' training in systemic relationship coaching (Chuck Spezzano)“, an STL course with Jeff Allen etc. (see:  http://oriens-coaching.de/ueber-mich.html  ).


Tanja Wagner, Samerberg/Bavaria

Wagner, born in 1970, is a kindergarten teacher by profession and worked in a state-run day nursery  connected to a Munich grammar school. In 2003, she became an alternative healer/psychotherapy. She did an STL training and is a „transformation therapist“ ( see: http://www.tanja-wagner-psychotherapie.de/ueber-mich/  ).


Ottilie Schawe, Tandern/Bavaria

Schawe, born 1975, is a grammar school teacher for German and English, and since 2010 an alternative healer/psychotherapy. Among the trainings she claims is Reconnective Healing, Awakenin Coaching, two shamanic trainings („focus on Inca method, so-called „Clearing“ according to Martine Brune, nature rituals …“), and a one-year course in STL.

http://www.reconnect-now.de/ottilie-schawe/


Michael Ditsch, Freising/Bavaria

Ditsch is a landscaper and did a course of studies in landscape architecture. Since 2001, he is a lecturer resp assistant at a University of Applied Sciences in Bavaria. He also teaches Taijiquan and Qigong.
Ditsch is a landscaper and did studies in landscape architecture. Since 2001, he is a lecturer resp assistant at a University of Applied Sciences in Bavaria. He also teaches Taijiquan and Qigong.

Ditsch also claims „depth psychological relationship and communication training according to Chuck and Lency Spezzano – Graduate of the Steps to Leadership Program, Graduate of the Psychology of Vision 100 Day Training Program, Attendance Mastery Program for Graduates“ (see:  http://www.michaelditsch.de/michael-ditsch.html   ).


Berrin Becker, Augsburg/Bavaria

Becker keeps various websites, separated into business activities and Nuage activities. According to one of her websites ( http://www.vergebungbefreit.de/10.html  ), she has been active in coaching since 15 years. Among her trainings are: Licenced Coach Tipping Method, Ho'oponono/Ihaleakala Hew Len, MatrixPower, Mental Trainer, Emotional Freedom Techniques, Psychophysiognomy,  alternative healer/psychotherapy, PoV – Psychology of Vision – Steps to Leadership with Barbara Tollmann (see above). She is also an NLP practitioner, master, trainer and teaching trainer and has additional trainings e.g. in telephone and marketing training, suggestopaedia etc.


Doris Singer, Passau/Bavaria

Singer, born 1959, originally worked as a doctor's receptionist (1975-1981). In 1996 she seems to have turned to Nuage with a training as a „holistic life and success coach“ (March to December 1996). Further trainings claimed by Singer are e.g. SAT enneagrams/Claudio Naranjo, STL in 2005-2006, psycho-kinesiology (2006-2007), as an NLP practioner (2003-04), Family Constellations acc. to and with Hellinger (2006-8), Brain Gym (2008-10).
http://www.einklang-singer.com/profil.html


Anna Reiter-Torwesten, Kienberg/Bavaria

Reiter-Torwesten is an alternative healer/psychotherapy with her own office for 'coaching and psychotherapy'. She claims various trainings, e.g. as a 'certified relationship coach (Life Trust)', 'Emotional Freedom Technique', trauma treatment, kinesiology, and has done an STL course. Her original profession is gymnastics instructor.
( http://www.netzwerk-psychotherapie.de/organisation/archiv/Anna_Reiter-Torwesten_im_Netzwerk_Psychotherapie.htm  )


Brigitte Rettinghausen, Freising/Bavaria

Rettinghaus runs her own office with numerous altmed resp Nuage methods, among them Reiki (2000), Psychology of Vision (2000-2007), STL in partnership with Kurt Sommer (see above) in 2003, Angel-Elohim Mastercards since 2001, Mental coach, wellness trainer (2004-5), mediality, spiritual life counseling, faith healing, sound massage (2009) (see: http://www.litios.de/index.php/de/unser-team/team-d/plz-gebiet-8/259-brigitte-rettinghausen.html ).
 
Further courses she claims to have taken are: Metatron Diamond Light Priestess (2010), Dowsing (2010), House Energetising Intensive (2010), Manifestation (2010), Seminar Angels and Masters (2011), Metatron Channeling Training (2011).

Apart from these various altmed and Nuage trainings, no previous employment and qualifications mentioned.


Karin Myria Pickl, Germering/Bavaria

According to her CV, Pickl – born 1970 - is a journalist and author, has a masters in education and claims to be a gestalt pedagogue. Since 2003, she has been a freelance journalist and PR manager in the fields of holistic health, conscious life and 'soft' traveling, since 2007 she is an author. She describes writing „in the fields of health, consciousness, personal development, spirituality – also while traveling“ as her „calling“. Pickl claims (vocational) trainings as a journalist, in gestalt therapy, various courses in media work, social media, marketing, writing in the field of wellness etc.

Among further qualifications, Pickl lists „shamanism (various seminars since 2003)“, kinesiology, an STL training with Kurt Sommer (see above), physiognomy, „medical radiesthesia“, Family Constellations, spell speaking, Deeksha initiation, Magnified Healing, etc. ( http://www.kmp-media.de/uber-kmp/vita/ )


Rudolf Mutter, Geltendorf/Bavaria

As a main (?) profession, Mutter apparently runs a company in the field of computer services, but has given up working with professional clients and concentrates on private clients instead, doing PC repair, maintenance of client's computers via internet etc.

Additionally, he sells Nuage seminars and claims trainings in PoV, STL, Releasing, Colour Acupuncture, Visualisation Therapy, Sufi Dance, Meditation, Psychdrama, Bio-Energetics, Rebirthing, Alchemist Hypnotherapy etc. Mutter does not mention whether he is licenced as an alternative healer (see: http://www.singyourheartsong.de/html/kontakt.html ).


Mira Irimie-Bastius, Munich/Bavaria

Irimie-Bastius did a course of studies in „welfare“ at a university of applied sciences and a three-year course as a systemic individual, couple, and family therapist; as this is not specified in any more detail, it cannot be evaluated whether this was a science-based course or a Nuage/altmed one (more probable).

She claims to have discovered PoV in 2000, and until 2010 attended numerous seminars and trainings like e.g. STL. She further claims some 10 years of experience working with a youth welfare institution where she says she was the supervisor of a pedagogic team. She also claims to have studied „shamanic healing ways like Andean shamanism“ since she takes an interest in aboriginal healing methods.
( http://www.wunder-wagen.com/-ber-mich.html )


Barbara Marohn, Karlstein/Bavaria

Marohn originally was a hotel clerk, then specialised in the field of marketing. Since 2003, she seems to do management counseling regarding the hiring of new employees, and is an „online moderator since 2004“. In 2006, she did an STL course in „psychological basics of Psychology of Vision“. Marohn in particular uses Joining techniques for coaching.
( http://www.ale-gria.de/ )

She describes PoV as:
„... a healing model combining modern psychological know-how with effective spiritual principles. It demonstrates in which ways our inner and outer worlds are connected, what gives us back our power of decision, to change our life, to recognise and master acute challenges. The three main elements PoV addresses are: relationships, leadership, and non-denominational spirituality.“

Another website (called „Coaching for Highly Sensitive Persons“ …) publishes a lecture by Marohn in which she describes to have first met PoV in a time of crisis when her marriage broke, and that PoV made her realise that the real reasons causing her marriage to break up where within herself.... (see: http://coaching-fuer-hochsensible.de/gastbeitrag-gefuhle-zulassen/  ).


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 16, 2015, 02:48:33 pm
There are persons emplyoing PoV methods who merit a closer look due to the nature of their activities:


1) Astrid Dehnel, Berlin
Jan Dehnel, Berlin

Astrid Dehnel works as a coach and has been involved with PoV since many years, although she never became a trainer but does STL courses and applies PoV methods in her coaching practice.

Her husband Jan Dehnel was involved in teaching STL courses some years ago but apparently has stopped. He is, however, still using and promoting PoV in his business profiles.

Astrid e.g. sells the following courses/counselings:

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Follow the Heart – Steps to Leadership
A year's training in a group to enable personal development. The training aims at living our true potential, marked by self-reliance, partnership, and relationship skills. It offers the possibility to get to know the methods and principles of PoV by Dr Chuck and Lency Spezzano and try them step by step in one's own life.

„Going new ways together – Open PoV group
Anyone enjoying personal development or in need of support in difficult situations is welcome to the open PoV group. Meetings are once a month in the evening and offers the possibility to introduce personal issues, and get to know and use methods and tools of PoV.
Astrid Dehnel works in an office of „freelance trainers, coaches, counselors, and teachers providing a diversified range of offers in the field of personal development.“ ( http://www.livia-berlin.de/team  )
The Dehnels also keep a personal website which does not have any contents as of yet ( http://www.astrid-und-jan.com/ ).

At the same time, both Dehnels are long-term supporters of so-called Germanic New Medicine by former MD Ryke Geerd Hamer:
Amazon carries a positive review on a GNM book („The five mental laws of healing: New medical paths“); the review was authored by Jan Dehnel dd. Dec 30, 2011 ( http://www.amazon.de/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A3NB2KFJM8CI9U?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview  ).

In his Xing profile, Dehnel mentions as his fields of interest:
„Software for humans, psychology, Psychology of Vision according to Dr Chuck Spezzan and Lency Spezzano, combining every-day life and spirituality, the path to partnership and equality on all levels, Germanic New Medicine according to Dr. Hamer“ (see: https://www.xing.com/profile/Jan_Dehnel  ).
Despite Dehnel's description, Hamer lost the licence to work as an MD in 1986 already after several cases of malpractice. Hamer's ideas were profoundly rejected by evidence-based medicine.

Both Dehnels signed in a petition in 2006/7 which meant to urge universities to give scientific recognition to Hamer's GNM ideas; a copy of the petition can be viewed here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.impeach.bush/x4_kOITb6UE/bYq92VpowNkJ  ; the individual entries are not dated.



B) Prof Dr Eike Clausius, Zwickau/Saxony, and Berlin

Holding a professorship in economics at Zwickau University of Applied Science, Clausius is also a longterm student of PoV and uses his position to do lectures and seminars based on PoV resp STL, like e.g. a course in „Systemic Counseling II (Steps to Leadership II)“ - see: http://www.fh-zwickau.de/fileadmin/ugroups/europaportal/Module_WIW/WIW557.pdf

Taking a look at his list of recommend literature, it becomes very apparent that Clausius indeed teaches PoV and other Newage garbage, as his list of recommended reading for the lecture lists books by Gregg Braden, Joseph Murphy, and three books by Chuck Spezzano.

On his private website, Clausius claims his field of research was „Emotional Intelligence“. This is no field of research in academic economics, although there were some attempts in the late 1990ies, but these were done in a rather Nuage and pseudo-scientific environment of more or less dubious management counseling.

Clausius also publishes a photo of himself and his wife with Chuck and Lency Spezzano: http://www.eikeclausius.de/Eike_Clausius/Uber_mich.html
At still another private website ( http://clausius-bilder.blogspot.de/ ), Clausius claims to be a „Healthy-Living- & Mental-Coach“ and names Berlin as his place of residence.

It is somewhat reassuring to see his rep among students seems to be wanting: although as a non-registered visitor, one may not view details of students' ratings of their professors, the site provides the info that out of the last five ratings, four students gave Clausius a bad rating and one an average rating ( https://www.meinprof.de/uni/prof/3714  ). His students also mention that Clausius does not use a microphone but insists on mumbling away since he means to avoid „electric smog“.

Clausius has been a professor at Zwickau University of Applied Sciences since 1993, so most probably his former employer did what we call „praising someone off one's premises“ and then said a heart-felt „Good Riddance“. Many complete idiots ad otherwise unpleasant characters during these years got sent to the Five New Federal States, and some of them still hold this employment until today. While Zwickau University will be aware that Clausius is not quite an asset to the university's name (they only let him do Basic Economics 101...), they are most probably not aware that what Clausius teaches is not economics, but cult economics according to Spezzano, and that with a staunch supporter of PoV, there is always the chance of him trying to make other persons take PoV courses, too – who in this case will be his students.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 19, 2015, 09:57:38 pm
Lecture Tour 2015

At last info for Spezzano's spring tour this year have been published. It is a very unimpressive list of  events in four cities (Basel, Munich, Frankfort, Bonn). The tour will last from Feb 19 to Mar 08, 2015.

http://www.pov-int.eu/termine/?ee=598

Feb 19 and Feb 20-22, 2015
The Basel events (lecture and 3-day seminar) will be organised by Basel Psi-Association, a well-known Nuage outfit.

Feb 26 and Feb 27-Mar 01, 2015
The Munich events will take place in Ottobrunn, a town just outside of Munich. Organiser is PoV-DACH GmbH.

Mar 03 and Mar 04, 2015
The events in Frankfort (lecture and one-day seminar) will be organised by Frankfurter Ring who have been organising various Nuage seminars and fairs for years.

Mar 05 and Mar 06-08, 2015
The Bonn events (lecture and 3-day seminar) will be organised by event company „Powerful Events“ which is run by Django and Bianca Hediger (see above).

On their website as well as via Facebook, Frankfurter Ring also promote a seminar from May 7-10, 2015 with Chuck Spezzano, titled „The language of the heart“. Fee: € 620 plus accom/food with prices at € 235, € 215, and € 195.
http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10523

The March events in Frankfort will take place in „Haus der Jugend“, i.e. the municipal youth centre and youth hostel. These centres are usually run by the municipal Youth Welfare Service... It is usual for municipal youth centres to let rooms for events and prices also will be below the fees charged by other premises. The evening lecture is priced at € 30, the day seminar at € 145 which is rather the usual range of fees charged for events with Spezzano. A low rent then may mean more of a profit, although at the cost of less impressive premises (see their large room: http://www.jugendherberge-frankfurt.de/tagen/tagungsraeume/grosser-saal/  ).

The premises booked in Ottobrunn/Munich are a municipal event centre. They booked the large room for up to 500 participants for both events.

In Bonn, they booked rooms at a hotel ( http://www.hotel-koenigshof-bonn.de/de/feiern-tagungen/tagungen ) which offers events for up to 350 participants in various rooms ( http://www.hotel-koenigshof-bonn.de/de/feiern-tagungen/tagungsraeume  ).


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 20, 2015, 02:04:21 pm
Qualifications and Occupations of PoV trainers, course teachers, and persons using PoV courses to promote themselves


Previous qualifications:

no qualifications mentioned resp Newage qualifications only: 26
kindergarten nurse: 6
bureau clerk: 4
Economics (grad.): 4
management consulting: 2
massager/balneotherap.: 2
geologist: 2
landscape architect: 2
hotel clerk: 2
music therapy: 2
Others (1 each):
Primary school teacher, grammar school teacher, dispatch, physiotherapist, hairdresser, notary, pedagogics, airline employee, lawyer's clerk, Medical-Technical Assistant, bank clerk, doctor's receptionist, Masters degree education, PC repair, „welfare“, dancer, chef, drama school teacher, occupational therapist, horse trainer, veterinarian, ophthalmologist, psychologist (graduated), MA education.

It has to be noted that only one person claims a university degree as a psychologist (and she has just taken down her website...). This fact tells more than enough about the nature of a 'method' which is sold under the labels of 'psychology', or even 'depth psychology'.

Two more claim a university degree as a veterinarian and an ophthalmologist, a third one graduated from law school, two did an MA in Education, two more studied geology. Two further persons say they are landscape architects, and this means either a degree obtained from a University, or a University of Applied Sciences. Four persons claim to have graduated from business school. All in all, 16 persons hold a university degree in various fields.

Several more (6 persons) have held jobs related to the field of health (massager, balneotherapist, musical therapy, physiotherapist, Medical-Technical Assistant, doctor's receptionist, occupational therapist). All of these professions do not need a course of studies or a general qualification for university entrance.

The by far largest group either does not mention previous qualifications, or restricts the information provided to various Newage methods (26 persons).

The second-largest group (14 persons) have held jobs connected to the field of economy (bureau clerk, graduated economists, management consultants, hotel clerk, bank clerk).

The largest group in one profession is made up of 6 persons who were previously trained as kindergarten nurses.

Two more claim to have done/do music therapy, but do not provide any further information regarding their education. It is therefore not possible to evaluate whether they are recognised in this field or not and whether their education was obtained from an honourable institution or some Nuage vendor.


Current occupations:

Among the persons listed as trainers, teachers of courses, and vendors using PoV courses absolved to promote themselves, 20 persons hold licences as alternative healers resp alternative healers restricted to psychotherapy (applicants for the latter licence will know even less about medical facts than alternative healers, the test aiming at establishing whether the applicant has some knowledge in a few methods applied by graduated psychotherapists).

Some 9 claim they are management consultants, about 6 claim they work as counselors or coaches. Management consulting covers a rather broad range of activities and while a large part of them is honourable and founded, there are others employing various Newage methods lacking scientific recognition and acceptance. One example is 'physiognomy', or even more ambitiously labeled 'psycho-physiognomy' which claims to be able to predict applicants' character, abilities and future achievements from their facial features. Another such example is graphology. Of the above listed persons, some will do consulting for companies (i.e. regarding choice of staff or trainings for staff and management), others offer individual career consulting.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: debbieredbear on February 20, 2015, 06:26:55 pm
I know in the US we can check and see if they have criminal convictions from government websites. Can thios be done in Germany? I just wonder if any of these "trainers" have felony records that could be concerning.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on February 20, 2015, 08:31:58 pm
I know in the US we can check and see if they have criminal convictions from government websites. Can thios be done in Germany? I just wonder if any of these "trainers" have felony records that could be concerning.

No, this isn't possible according to German law.

As far as those persons holding a licence as an alternative healer are concerned, they will have no records at the time of their application for the licence. The requirements are:
- minimum age 25 years
- a school certificate equalling CSE Certificate of Secondary Education, i.e. the lowest possible, and
- a police clearance certificate

Although methods employed may be ineffective to idiotic, our law says it takes two to tango: one to cheat, and one willing to be cheated. It is of course possible to sentence an alternative healer for applying methods and 'cures' which are ineffective or even damaging to their clients' health - but the court then will need to prove the healer *knew* this. So as long as they believe in their own methods, or claim they do ...

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on February 28, 2015, 09:10:44 pm
Kate Lines and Tom Lehar,  more promoters in Canada (Williams Lake, B.C.):

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I facilitate the Steps to Leadership course created by Vision Works for Life and inspired by Chuck Spezzano's Psychology of Vision program.
Steps to Leadership is a training programme; you meet up in a small group led by a facilitator (in this case, me), to learn the tools you need to transform your life and, in doing so, the lives of the people around you. Steps to Leadership covers many of the teachings of Psychology of Vision (PoV) and presents them in 27, 3-hour modules. The principles, lessons, and tools of PoV are synthesised, organised, each building on the previous one. Together they offer a way of engaging with the teachings in a practical and incremental way.  When you graduate from the programme, you take with you a firm understanding of the workings of the mind, the blocks that are keeping you stuck, and techniques to overcome them.
See more at Vision Works for Life: http://visionworksforlife.com/personal-development/steps-to-leadership/
and at Psychology of Vision: http://www.psychologyofvision.co

http://www.merlynslist.com/canada/metaphysical-community-member/kate-lines (http://www.merlynslist.com/canada/metaphysical-community-member/kate-lines)

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What is Steps to Leadership?
It is a training programme; you meet up in a small group led by husband and wife facilitators, Kate Lines and Tom Lehar, to learn the tools you need to transform your life and, in doing so, the lives of the people around you. Steps to Leadership covers many of the teachings of Psychology of Vision (PoV) and presents them in 27, 3-hour modules. The principles, lessons, and tools of PoV are synthesised, organised, each building on the previous one.

http://www.merlynslist.com/canada/events/free-info-session-for-steps-to-leadership-feb-28-2015-54 (http://www.merlynslist.com/canada/events/free-info-session-for-steps-to-leadership-feb-28-2015-54)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 03, 2015, 11:12:30 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Peace and Success"

One of the cornerstones of Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) is the "Downloading/Joining" process as demonstrated by Lenora Kay Spezzano in a group of Youtube videos. Several of us believe we are viewing SALPOV minions being manipulated by hypnosis in these presentations. Lenora denies this, of course, but "it feels true to me" that her "channeling Heaven's grace" is a very unconvincing description of what we are witnessing here. In the spirit of fair play, here is a link to her claiming that hypnosis is not employed in these sessions--

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-lency-spezzano-merely-a-stage-hypnotist/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/is-lency-spezzano-merely-a-stage-hypnotist/)

So I am going to post a series of reviews on these "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes to explore and document this activity. Now that the "Healing Keys," and the English language SALPOV Trainers Manual, and the wwwpovevents.com (http://wwwpovevents.com) website have all been removed from public view (ladies and gentlemen, transparency has left the building!), these videos have my vote as SALPOV's most current self-incriminating online presentation in English. But the very most self-incriminating document is in German, Section K of the SALPOV Trainers Manual, which is basically a blueprint for First Nations affinity fraud. That section was never published in English. Interesting, isn't it?

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36673#msg36673)   

You might ask, what the heck is "joining" anyway? Well, rather than trying to explain it, why don't I provide a link to a short demonstration by SALPOV friend Matthew Blythe. Matthew was the guy who tried to submit a Wikipedia entry on Charles Lee Spezzano but it was rejected because Spezzano was not considered notable enough--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M772WwuhP5Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M772WwuhP5Y)

OK. Get the picture on the mystical specialness of "joining"? These videos pretty much have the same formula: Lenora asks the victim what they want for their birthday, she goes into a long blather about the "neuro-net," she then places the poor sod under hypnosis using the direct gaze method while going through a very bizarre catalogue of facial contortions, and then shows off the trembling hypnotized specimen as a trophy. All of this is timed to coincide with music by the group known as Bliss.

Let's get started with the first review--

Lency Spezzano "Peace and Success" Download (8:32) posted May 13, 2013.


Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Peace and Success. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk)

Lenora "joins" with Irish trainer Denise Moroney.

http://web.archive.org/web/20130602090120/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/denise-moroney/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20130602090120/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/denise-moroney/)

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LKS: So Denise a little bird told me that its your birthday today as well.

DM : Yeah.

LKS: What a coincidence. So happy birthday.

DM: Thank you.

LKS: And being that you have a rich father, you can have anything that you want for your birthday. So of all your wildest dreams, of anything that you can have, of any change that you would like, any shift in your mind that would create a different reality for you in your world, what you most like to have?

DM: I would like to have peace and success.

[Laughter in crowd, Lenora mugs]

LKS: Is that all? [More laughter] So we'll do two, right? We'll do peace, and then we'll do success. So with the success, what types of success do you imagine yourself having and enjoying?

DM: Lots of money [laughter in crowd] and I want to bring you to Ireland.

LKS: Bring me to Ireland? I can see that. Sweet. That's sweet. Ok, so, but, career success, getting this work out there to the world.

DM: Yeah. That's why I want to bring you to Ireland.

LKS: OK, yeah, its a deal. And so we'll start with peace. And we'll take two songs, one for each gift.

At around 2:00 Lenora nods for the sound person to cue up the "Bliss Music" and she begins her range of weird facial contortions. The music on the intro text is only credited as "Farewell to Music" by Bliss, but in the course of this presentation there are two different pieces played. The audio on both is pretty bad.

Lenora uses the direct gaze method and bares her almost too perfect very white teeth. The camera is mostly fixed on her. The presenter of the "gift" is obviously more important than the recipient. We only see Denise in profile and at 3:00 she exhibits slight tremors.

Freeze frame at 3:04 and tell me Lenora is not playing the role of predator. The lowered chin, the bared teeth, the unblinking reptilian stare. This is hypnosis. The creepiness factor is overwhelming. And this is supposed to attract us to join their little cult? What were they thinking?

Like I said, hard to believe this footage exists for public consumption.

At about 3:45 you see Lenora nonverbally coaching Denise on how to respond as she brings her down from the trance and at 3:55 Lenora stage manages Denise to "share it," which means staring blankly at the attendees.

Then the camera pans the audience of SALPOV trainers, who are trembling and quaking in their seats. I liken this to the Church of the Quivering Brethren--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJ2qyrqzp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJ2qyrqzp0)

It is all timed to last as long as the music. Once it ends at 5:14 we are lucky enough to witness a bonus Act Two! My, how pleasing!

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LKS: That was a very sweet one. Yeah. So now we are going to remove the limiting beliefs that you have about your ability to have success and to reach the entire globe and help everyone. Right? Yeah.

Then Lenora nods to the sound person for more "Bliss Music" and says "Success" as she uses the direct gaze method of hypnosis on Denise. Watch very carefully from 6:11-6:31. So creepy and about power. At 7:33 Lenora begins the nodding commands for Denise landing back to Earth.

As we go through these Youtubes we'll see a formula and routine. Lenora and her victim conclude in a live freeze-frame, as Denise comes out of her trance shaking and trembling. This is a typical ending for these presentations. The camera pans the Quivering Brethren and we get a glance at a guy I call the Big Lug, who occasionally shows up in these gigs. You can see him at 8:07 standing behind trainers Alison Banks and Susan How. He seems apart from the rest. Curious. Is he a medic? A bouncer? A spouse or boyfriend along for the ride? A caretaker?

Denise is no longer a trainer for SALPOV. I wonder if she had to sign a permission form in order to be filmed and if so, what did it say exactly?

I ask this question because through my eye these "downloading/joining" Youtubes are a form of sadistic aggression that humiliates the subject in public for all to see. This is about Lenora exerting her power as the Queen Bee. As a free human being walking the planet between the soil and sky I am entitled to have my opinion based on the truth as I see it. And as I see it, SALPOV is a dangerous personality cult. These "downloading/joining" Youtubes provide more than enough evidence of that. There is nothing I can write that could provide more damning evidence of SALPOV being a mind-manipulation group than these self-destructive Youtubes. They are their own worst enemy.

This could be a case where the old saying "There's no such thing as bad publicity" could be proven wrong.   

So prepare the popcorn, settle down in a comfortable place, and enjoy the slow motion train wreck as I continue to review the rest of the videos in this series. Lenora asks the viewer to "open your heart," but I would add that you need to open your mind as well.


   

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 03, 2015, 11:58:45 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Healing the Dark Night of the Soul" (23:05) posted May 10, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Healing the Dark Night of the Soul. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8)

This particular "downloading/joining" session is a bit different than the rest. Lenora Kay Spezzano, who has claimed to be an empath in the past, starts off the show with describing the vibes she is feeling. A SALPOV trainer is selected at random to apparently channel or act as a proxy for the whole group. But, things don't go so smooth, and in the process we see how Lenora is actor, director, and stage manager. This Youtube really gives us more of a backstage view than I expect they meant to reveal.

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LKS: So we are just noticing there is a big activity going on in our brain, so something is getting corrected, some kind of healing is coming in and if we discover what it is we can put our attention on it and, [moves hands in a mixing motion] so it can be more productive.

Notice the term, "our brain." We are SALPOV. Lower your independence and surrender your wallet. We will add your monetary and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

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LKS: So I can feel there is emotion with it. Let's just put our attention on the emotion. Whoa, it's quite a squeeze in there. So the emotion, there's tears in it. [Responds to audience] Grief? Despair? Yeah, it feels like despair. Yeah, it's like the end of the world kind of feeling. It's the end of my world. So does anybody have a storyline or an issue that's matching this that you can feel coming up? That you can focus it for us? Nobody gets any storyline? It's just utter hopeless despair. There's a feeling that my life is over. My life is ruined and I wrecked it. I destroyed myself. I destroyed my life. I ruined everything. There's guilt in there, there's grief about what you've lost in your life.

If she is indeed an empath, I suspect what she was feeling was all the regret by the participants on how they wasted thousands of dollars to be part of this bogus carnival act. But as we have demonstrated many times on this forum, the manipulation of guilt is THE key ingredient of SALPOV.

At this point Lenora stares at the audience for 15 seconds then reaches for some off-camera "cards," and declares--

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LKS: So the cards say we could get a focus person. Would you guys be willing for somebody to focus it?

I'd be curious to know what those cards were all about.

Then she reaches into a small basket filled with slips of paper, each slip apparently with the name of a participant. She pulls one out and announces a name, "Fujiko-san." My apologies for any spelling error here. I'm not familiar with this individual, but I'll call her Fujiko for now.

Fujiko takes a chair next to Lenora and is handed a microphone by someone. She immediately launches into her thing, which I am guessing is in Japanese and is translated by an offstage translator--

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F: For some reason, I am aware that I have been focusing on that feeling.

LKS: And for how long have you been focusing on it?

F: After the break.

That must have been some break. Did she have a moment of clarity? Like, what the Hell am I doing wasting my time, energy, money, and life on this nonsense? Did she walk outside on break time and view the Pacific Ocean lapping against the beautiful Hawaiian shore and realize that in the Big Picture SALPOV is really a small potatoes sideshow? Did she think, "Here I am on an island paradise, and I'm spending my time here cooped up in a room with Madame Cuckoo Clock?"

OK, I know this might sound crazy, but I am thinking out loud here. SALPOV is such a goofy corporation that sometimes I wonder if it is actually a front for something else, God only knows what? If that was true it would explain a lot.

Let's move on. 

Lenora nods and files through the cards. Then she stops and addresses the audience--

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LKS: When I was working in the Dark Night of the Soul, this is what it felt like. I've destroyed myself, I've ruined everything. And I've lost everything important to me and I'm alienated from everyone I hold dear. And it's like the fatal mistake kind of thing. And the element with the Dark Night of the Soul is that even God, you know, you disappointed God so much that the feeling is that, for example, this lifetime is a failure. I thought this life would be a triumph but it turns out it's a failure. I just screwed up, and I'm letting God down, I'm not going to awaken, I'm not going to get out of this dream, I'm just burying myself deeper in my guilt. I've just screwed up. So you don't need to have a storyline to trigger it, it's just opened up for us to heal. And better you don't create a story.

Now this is the time to mention that the use of the term "Dark Night of the Soul" originates with the Catholic Church back in the 16th century, which would be in keeping with the training of Charles Lee Spezzano. The use of this topic here is a good example of SALPOV encouragement of mental self-flagellation.

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LKS: So let's just follow it down as you feel it, maybe you can just express the emotion that you're feeling as it opens up.

At 6:10 Lenora makes her first attempt at direct gaze contact, but it quickly breaks and at 6:20 she turns to the audience and claims--

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LKS: Wait, the intensity. You're feeling this, right, in your brain? Wow. I can hear the bones in my head creaking as they're separating.


"I can hear the bones in my head creaking as they're separating." Yes, she really says this. I guess this confirms she is indeed cracked.

At around 6:37 Lenora resumes the direct stare and asks--

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LKS: What words could you put to this?


There is no answer, but around the 6:47 zone Lenora silently points to her right eye, bares her perfect teeth, and nods "yes." She is serious about deploying her hypnosis skills now. But at 7:04 Fujiko insolently breaks the illusion and declares--

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F: I am ugly. I don't deserve to be enlightened, it's just beyond me.

The camera then inexplicably gives us a brief view of the Big Lug bestowing a shoulder massage to Canadian trainer Susan How in the mostly female audience. So what is the deal with that? We get to see this shot peppered into the drama over and over.

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F: Also I feel I am doing terrible things to each and every one in this room.

LKS: OK, so just surrender into that. I'm horrible. I'm a horrible human being. I'm an utter failure as a human being. I just deserve punishment. Right?

And the staring renews at about 8:36 but it again fails to connect--

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LKS: And as I remember it, it felt like endless punishment like there could be no end to this feeling, it's like eternal, I'll never get out of it. It's really a Hell, right? There's no hope of getting free of it. [Turns to audience] So with the Dark Night of the Soul, when I've read about people going through it, generally it takes them years, its years of this utterly bleak, black experience. Just no fun for a very long time. But we are so lucky we have this technology, we can move through it. And because I've dealt with at least part of it, I don't know how big it is, anyway, I can share it as a download and hopefully save you from a lot of suffering.

Around 10:10 Lenora exhales in what appears to be slight exasperation and attempts once more to use the direct gaze method, but it is just not happening.

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LKS: So its utter hopelessness and helplessness, right?

More staring.

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LKS: And you're just completely unlovable. There's nothing lovable about you. There's no redeeming quality that can make up for this ugly, bleak reality.

More staring.

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LKS: The despair is so powerful that you can't even try to climb out of it. You don't even have the will to try to get yourself out of it because you know there's no way out. Right?

More staring.

Lenora then addresses the off-camera sound crew--

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LKS: If you guys can tee up the Bliss Music and keep going through it and maybe start over again if you need to.

Then she turns to the audience--

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LKS: So just feel that knot, that twist inside your brain as big as you can. Just emphasize it as much as possible.

Then the music starts, an unaccredited piece by Bliss. But Lenora stops everything and tells the sound crew

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LKS: No I mean just tee it up, be ready for it.

At 12:27 she really tries the direct gaze method again, but keeps getting no hypnotic purchase. She turns to the audience--

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LKS: Dark Night of the Soul. Where is it on the triangle?

Then she leaves her chair and goes off camera, probably to check the POV triangle which they swiped from Bob Trask,

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LKS: [voice off-camera] I find it in "Union." Original Dark Night of the Soul. But there are through Mastery elements of it that you deal with all along the way there are Dark Nights. There are Dark Nights all the way, but this one is "Union." According to me.

You got all that, right? Having you own special lingo is one of the hallmarks of a cult.

But enough stalling and playing for time. Lenora returns to her seat.

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LKS: Cut off from God, cut off from love, cut off from life. The misery of this despair is just so complete.


More staring.

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LKS: [to audience] So just give yourself to it, let go, fall into it and know that I'm giving you the download. So just feel what you need to feel but be heading toward the light, be heading toward the Miracle. You don't have to spend a long time in here. It's not the truth. It's just not the truth.

At 14:34 Lenora motions to the sound crew to start up the Bliss Music. The direct gaze method is now deployed in overdrive and the series of contorted expressions and Master Thespian acting begins. No more playing around now. Time to get serious.

Around 15:23 Lenora directs the sound crew to raise the volume, which might've worked in the live setting, but for Youtube viewers the sound degrades significantly at this point. She really needed to hire a professional director so she could concentrate on just being the talent rather than filling several roles at once. As it is the production values in these efforts come across as glorified home movies. The poor quality of the recording, camera-work, and hokey blather only helps the rest of the world to laugh at SALPOV. This is like watching an Ed Wood movie. Small wonder that the English-speaking world of SALPOV has experienced a sharp decline since these Youtubes were released.

It also interests me that in the middle of "downloading," Lenora can break character and dictate mundane directions for the sound crew, and then return to "channeling" Heaven's grace in the blink of a right eye. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I'm guessing that around 16:44 the subject has been completely hypnotized, judging from the tremors. After hugging, the two turn and face the audience. Lenora declares, "You got it," and the crowd gathers on stage and line up for a group shot. Fujiko's shaking is hard to ignore. Franklin, a SALPOV trainer with ASK Taiwan/Hong Kong is practically in convulsions.

The scene lasts long enough that a second piece of music, "Say Goodbye" by Bliss, is played and the camera pans the Church of the Quivering Brethren. A third piece of music begins and Lenora subtly signals the sound crew to kill it. Thank God this long session has come to an end.



 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 12:23:41 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Perfect Health" (15:37) posted May 9, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Perfect Health. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg)

The subject in this demonstration is Hiromi Kurihara, a high-level trainer from Japan who also serves on SALPOV's star chamber Steering Committee.

http://www.mygrowthvision.com/trainers#gallery-details-4 (http://www.mygrowthvision.com/trainers#gallery-details-4)

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LKS: So my darling beloved Hiromi-san, I understand its your birthday.

HK: Yes!

[Laughter]

LKS: And because it's your birthday you can receive anything you want, any desire, any dream, any wish, any quality, any aptitude. You can have anything you want. It could rain right in this room. We can have anything, so what would you most love to receive?

HK: I want perfect health.

LKS: Perfect health. What a good idea.

HK: Yeah. Young, and powerful, beautiful.

LKS: Yeah, yeah, yeah, why didn't I think of that? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Why not? Something I learned personally through my own healing recently is that we are not our body, we are not the body. This a vehicle, its a purely neutral thing, if something's going wrong, if lack of health is showing up in us, its only to draw our attention to something, its just a communication to us, but the body is free from our beliefs and our issues and all of that. So let's have that freedom and receive perfect health. Alright? Yeah. Thank you. Good one.

Oh? Apparently Lenora did not read the Healing Metaphors by Charles Lee Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst, one of the foundation blocks of the SALPOV theology which states that if you are ill or even have a birth defect it is your own damn fault! Past lives and all that crap is used in this Spezzano/Ticehurst nonsense.

In this regard SALPOV suffers from a "split mind," and it isn't the first time Lenora has contradicted the claims of her spouse. This must be confusing to the cult followers, but on the other hand in all the "busyness" time and tasks the flock is required to perform in order to be a drone in good standing probably doesn't give them a moment to consider these contradictions in the behavior of their heroes. Charles lewdly calls such critical thoughts "anal-lies," ridiculing any avenue toward critical thinking. And here the New Age shares an anti-intellectual bias with America's Tea Party. Both groups discourage independent thinking outside of the hive and view science and academia as the villain.

The encouragement of magical thinking in defiance of science and the laws of nature is a hallmark in cults like SALPOV. 

In many ways it almost seems like SALPOV is actually two cults, one run by Charles, the other run by Lenora, and with very different theologies. Perhaps they would claim one represents the masculine, the other the feminine, in their role as surrogate parents. But they still contradict each other in several important cases. I am going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that she was the glue that kept the UK SALPOV together. Notice the massive drop in trainers in the UK after she retired from international workshops. In Canada, I would imagine the younger trainers who dropped out recently were also more in the Lenora cult than the Charles cult. Just a theory, but I think I might be on to something here.

Lenora has stated that she is not a moralist. And we hear from her over and over how nothing is real, etc. And yet her spouse has pounded the pulpit many times in his monthly newsletter and card-of-the-day about astral attackers, demons, conspiracies, and other bad guys as he whips up the fear factor. So there is clearly a Good and Evil dualism taking place in SALPOV, or is there? Gosh, I can't tell. More mixed messages! Which cult should I follow, Charles or Lenora?! Ngggh! My brain hurts! Charles was raised Catholic, Lenora Protestant. This could be the seed of the SALPOV theological split mind division.

The more I study SALPOV marketing, the more I realize just how compartmentalized it is. They go wherever the money is and law allows (which excludes them from the mainland USA in many instances), and right now the cashola is in Germany and Asia. As they follow fad and fashion, they drop theological alliances such as with Oneness University like a hot coal if it will prove to be a liability to their profit margin. Loyalty is not their strong suit. Did they stand beside Jutta L. in Germany during her embezzlement trial when she swiped big dough in order to attend a SALPOV brainwashing session in Hawaii? Did they support the "Healing Keys" as it went underground in order to hide from honest criticism? In the future are they going to stand by other SALPOV cult followers who come under the scrutiny of government agencies, a very likely scenario? The track record says no. Both Spezzanos are pretty mercenary, one trait they both share. Underlings are disposable and aftercare for people they have damaged, as moreinfo has pointed out, goes unheeded.

A long time ago I drove a taxicab. The owner told me to drive as fast as I could and cut corners in order to jack up the profits. But if I was given a ticket for reckless driving or speeding I was on my own, the company was not going to back me up. SALPOV is a lot like that cab company.   

Although SALPOV celebrates "oneness" they actually have very conflicting sales pitches-- it just depends on their audience at the time and who they target as a sucker.

Back to the show--

At 1:41 Lenora nods to the sound crew, "A Hundred Thousand Angels" by Bliss is played, the audio is pretty bad, and the direct gaze method of hypnosis begins.

Hiromi, who I suspect is an old hand at this game, slips into a trance immediately and Lenora's initial facial expressions are actually fairly subdued compared to other "downloading/joining" demonstrations, at least at first.

Things begin to heat up around 5:25, Hiromi starts to tremble but is still holding up pretty well. The body language in profile is so telling. Lenora leaning in, Hiromi sitting back. The predator and the prey. It just creeps me out. The music ends at 7:40 and a second song is played, "I Could Stay Forever By Your Side" by Bliss, but it is not credited anywhere. The audio remains awful. 

Around 8:57 Hiromi starts to quiver and her expressions just get weirder. What the heck is Lenora doing to her? I watch this and think, "Victimizing." Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars to submit to this carnival act? Sad.

At 11:00 we are treated to some more Master Thespian acting. Lenora has a brother and a daughter in the acting profession, so perhaps these Youtubes serve as an outlet for her genetic theatrical side. That in itself isn't really a bad thing, except that she presents it as channeling Heaven's grace, and I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it. This is Aimee Semple McPherson stuff we are watching. I have a professional theatre sibling as well. I recognize the smell of half-baked ham. 

At 14:04 the two turn around and face the audience and camera so we can see just how spiritually refreshed they are. This is all timed to end with the music but it comes across as awkward as it lasts a full minute and half.

I remember having great fun playing the old original Mario games with my daughter over 20 years ago. After we emerged from the underwater world we felt so refreshed in an artificial way. Such is the artificial case with these "downloading/joining" sessions--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZdVeBe_m8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZdVeBe_m8)

But on the morning after you still have to face a new day. Oh, are you needing more downloading to get your hypnotic fix? Well, that can be had at a price. The post-Hawaii letdown has been referenced by at least one attendee.






Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 01:30:54 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Healing the Great Wars" (16:14) posted May 10, 2013.


Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Healing the Great Wars. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8)

For those of you who are escaping from this cult, let me provide you with a metaphor (SALPOV loves metaphors)-- Andy crawling through the sewerpipe in order to find independence courtesy of the Shawshank Redemption--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SheaMMd8H5g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SheaMMd8H5g)

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"Andy crawled to freedom through 500 yards of shit smelling foulness I can't even imagine. Or maybe I just don't to want imagine. 500 yards. That's the length of 5 football fields. Just shy of half a mile."

In North America and the UK, people are getting wise to SALPOV. Asia and Central Europe needs to catch up. I know breaking free from this cult can be frightening. Try to find someone on your area who specializes in cult exit therapy.

Anyway, let us get on with the review of this weirdo video presentation. Lenora Kay Spezzano does all the talking in this one--   

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LKS: Now I want to give you the gift of healing download.

OK, considering all participants have spent several thousand dollars to be present, this can hardly be considered a "gift." A pan of the audience shows the Big Lug is present.

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LKS: And this download will come through the higher self, through the Holy Spirit, and it will be using my brain to transmit this healing, or correction, of what at in Psychology of Vision we call the "Great Wars."

Yes, her brain is a conduit to God's bureaucracy. The use of the term "Holy Spirit" was a smart choice, because the concept is used by many different religions. However, as we shall see later in this presentation, the main inspiration for this cult is Christian-based, as in A Course in Miracles

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LKS: [Moves to the SALPOV Triangle, which was swiped from Bob Trask] So the Great Wars show up here in "Vision." The Great Wars are the major dichotomies of mind. So they're the biggest splits that you have in your mind. [crude camera cut, back to chair] And I just healed these recently so this is fairly fresh. I can remember the process of getting these issues up and dealing with them, healing them. And some of them were pretty dramatic. I think the first one was healing the split mind about superiority, superior and inferior, inferiority. So we had both in our minds. We had this inferiority complex but we also feel superior so this war inside of ourselves that also shows up in our relationships. And the next one that came up in my healing was the split between male/female, and the war, the battle of the sexes, the battle of approaches. All of us are half feminine, half masculine in our minds but because the feminine has been not valued to the degree that the masculine has been valued for so many centuries, for millennia, we all have complexes inside of us about that. And a fight about which is better.

I notice that in spite of Lenora's declarations of valuing the feminine, she is very definitely given second billing in SALPOV. The videos of Charles all have a jazzy intro and conclusion that look like they cost a few clams. But Lenora's videos are the z-films of cult propaganda. If SALPOV is actually divided into two cults as I have proposed, the Lenora cult is obviously overshadowed and dominated by the Charles cult and given the short end of the stick.

Back to the show--     
 
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LKS: And so healing that was great. It's wonderful for your relationship, I can say that for sure. The next one I remember was life/death and that was quite dramatic for me. I felt like I was at the point of death, really. And when that healed in my mind it was when I realized that the only way I can get through this is if the body is not real. To understand that the body is not real is a major Course in Miracles instruction. The body isn't real because nothing in this reality is real-- as we know from ancient Asian philosophies this world is actually a dream, its an illusion. The same thing is said by quantum physicists.

The vague reference to "Asian philosophies" is a broadsweep, but by invoking "quantum physics" she laps over into a very discredited area of pseudoscience. This might be a good time to sit back and enjoy this short video that tackles the New Age use of anything "quantum"-- 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM)

However, it does seem like Lenora faced some sort of health crisis. And perhaps she still does and I wish her a speedy recovery if that is the case. I've been there at Death's door too, and she's right, and it does change the way you view life and mortality. But we all have very individual ways of dealing with it. Time marches on for us aging Boomers and the bell tolls for all of us. 

It is interesting she doesn't mention her own husband's Healing Keys in this segment as a source of solving her problem. In fact, I can't find a single case where any SALPOV member cited the Healing Keys as part of their recovery from anything. On the other hand, I don't recall reading about the "downloading/joining" process in the Healing Keys. Since the authors removed that work from public view I can't go back and verify if my memory is correct. One former trainer told me the Healing Keys was SALPOV's weakest link. So, I think there's yet another institutional split mind thing going on here.

OK, another aside here. I am so tempted to write a novel inspired by the exploits of the Spezzanos. I am really seeing them as trapped and tragic figures now, forever in a prison of their own making. I sense the SALPOV thing is winding down and it will be fascinating to see if they ever come clean, enlightened, and seek to make reparations for all the damage they have caused. Running around Germany in a Hawaiian shirt when you are past retirement age, hustling yet another book that is merely recycling all your past work is as pathetic as watching an old rock group from the 1960s reprising their hits. That is no way to live. No amount of money can be worth debasing yourself like that. Watching him peddle his platitudes to the Germans makes me feel embarrassed for him. He went a bridge too far.

Let us resume the presentation-- 

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LKS: So reaching an understanding, taking the power away from my belief that I could die, that I'm a victim of things that could happen to my body, that was a tremendous relief. And, boy, it saved my life, literally. There are more right/wrong, good/evil, those kinds of things, anybody remember any others, those who are tracking and along with me in the process? But anyway you get the idea of these major splits in the mind. And when you heal these Great Wars and you're pretty much finishing off this "Vision" stage [points to SALPOV Triangle], when you heal that what you receive and the pattern in your mind that replaces the Great Wars is value, which is a Mastery level gift. So its the sense of personal value. I have value. I am valuable. And just to have that knowing inside of you is such a comfort and it takes a lot of the pain out your life.

This is sounding like a speech by Sarah Palin. It just doesn't make any sense. But then again, I have not been schooled in SALPOV cultspeak.

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LKS: So as the download starts to come through, and I can feel it already, you'll start to feel inside of your brain the change in the brain pattern of your neuro-net. So, if you remember from college when you were studying science, the science of the brain, your thought patterns are in there physically through the firing of synapses, so you get a certain pattern of thought, because you repeat the same thought again and again, these patterns get really deeply entrenched. So like the fight between the masculine and feminine, you've probably had those thoughts so often in your life there's really a superhighway in there about your position, whatever that might be.

So A Course in Miracles calls this process "the light of one mind shining into another." In India they say "the simplicity of one mind is affecting another." But, this is not something that I'm doing. Its something that's organized from a much higher level of our minds, and I'm just being a conduit. Its coming through. And my brain feels the changes that your brain will be feeling. So my brain is transmitting the sort of ironing out of those ruts in your mind and freeing it, allowing it to be simple in the place where it had been caught in conflict and split in those many ways.

Just a reminder and so we all understand the foundation of SALPOV-- A Course in Miracles is a work that was dictated by Jesus Christ to Helen Cohn Schucman (1909–1981), A New York psychologist. This "inner voice" of Jesus told Helen what to write between 1965-1972. Let me repeat. This is the foundation for SALPOV. Just in case you missed it, Jesus Christ dictated this to a psychologist in New York 1965-1972. Jesus Christ dictated a set of rules to a New York psychologist and this is what SALPOV uses as their most inspirational text. Jesus Christ = Helen Schucman = SALPOV. OK? Got it? ACIM, along with Oneness University, has been touted as SALPOV's "two greatest inspirations." Now that OU has been purged from SALPOV, ACIM is the single greatest inspiration for SALPOV. That is to say a work dictated by Jesus Christ 1965-1972 to Ms. Schucman. This is at the base of SALPOV, just so we're all clear on this and there is no confusion.

And now, much like Helen, Lenora Lay Spezzano is your connection to the Holy Spirit, which why you have paid thousands of dollars to attend these sessions. Pay to pray.   

And exactly who in India is Lenora quoting? Perhaps her teachers at Oneness University?   

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LKS: So you may feel the emotions of those dichotomies as the healing happens. But you don't have to actually go deep into the emotion and feel everything because the elegance of a download is that its a physical shift in your brain and because you're a wholistic system when your brain shifts your emotional body shifts, everything happens together at once. So you can do a tremendous amount of healing. For example it took a few weeks for me to deal with all of these issues and I cried a lot in the process.

Oh, one I forgot was Heaven and Hell, the belief in that split and that was a huge one for me. Yeah. So the beauty of downloads is you can receive the healing in an elegant way that prevents you from having to go through the life experiences that trigger the upheaval so that you can connect with the repressed emotion and the issues that are buried in your body/mind system.

Since in her text intro Lenora claims to perform "healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace," apparently Heaven does still exist but Hell does not? Then where do the "astral attackers" and "demons" that her husband frequently point to come from?

Split minds.

As far as promoting "an elegant way that prevents you from having to go through the life experiences that trigger the upheaval" I can only watch that segment with ope-mouthed awe in disbelief. This is LIFE we are talking about. Life is something to be experienced, pain and pleasure, winning and losing, love and heartbreak, it is all in the game. That is how we grow as we contemplate this riddle of existence. But if you happen to be a vulnerable person who has been hurt beyond measure, SALPOV has the appeal of a numbing escape, a quick fix. Especially if you have the loose funds to pay the high fee required for this service. But if you fall into the SALPOV spider web you are submitting yourself to people who are in no way qualified to help. There is a reason this corporation is included in this forum about frauds and plastic shamans. All SALPOV clients need to be classified as victims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpNdzSxXw-I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpNdzSxXw-I)

This is wrong. It needs to stop. Now. 

Back to our program which is already in progress--

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LKS: So, its a gift I'm really happy to share with you. And let's get started. You probably can already feel your brain starting to go [makes a science fiction effect], OK? So that's a good thing and so you can actually invite your brain to surrender even more so that the download happens quickly and easily.

And the keyword here is "Surrender."

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LKS: With the download it doesn't take time. Its not dependent on time, its dependent on willingness. So if you're willing to get the correction, get the shift, get the healing and take your mind into the miracle it won't need to take any time at all. Alright, I just invite you to surrender into it, get the healing, and when your mind hits the miracle, when you can see the joke of all of these fights that you have been in your whole life, maybe countless lifetimes, when you can see the joke of it, when you get the humor of it, when you feel completely liberated, and you hit the experience of bliss in your mind, that's a miracle, that's what A Course in Miracles calls a miracle. Its completely healing an issue. So when your mind hits a miracle, [someone in the audience has distracting coughing] invites you to get up and join me and we'll create a bliss engine and everyone who has received a miracle then is transmitting it to the others as well, so we're just of one mind being in the grace. It's just grace, there's nothing personal. You don't have to worry about receiving anything personal that's mine in the transmission. Its just light, its just love. Alright? So we'll have some music, and here it comes.

[Someone off-camera is laughing like a maniac] Some of you didn't even wait for the music.

The "bliss engine" is an old device that has been employed by Lenora for many years. Hardly "cutting edge" at the time of this filming. 

Here is a Youtube of Lenora performing a "bliss engine" in 2001, and when you really study it, including what the people in the background are doing with the staring stuff, it is very unsettling--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcOoCtUJ-kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcOoCtUJ-kI)

This a damn cult. It is as plain as day.

So given the rules Lenora just set forth, and given the sense of possible buyer's remorse the participants might be feeling after wasting thousands of dollars on this silliness, do you really believe anyone is going to have the guts to stay in their seat and declare, "I am not feeling the miracle"? Of course not.

This peer pressure manipulation pays off.

The music starts at 10:23. Alison Banks is jumping up and down in her seat. Lenora says something I can't pick up but I think it ends with "Join me." Lenora stares directly into the camera as if to hypnotize us and as she does so she is quickly flanked by the believers. Guess they got the miracle within nanoseconds. Aaaaamazing!

As "A Hundred Thousand Angels" by Bliss is played, the Church of the Quivering Brethren line up, and man alive, do they quiver!

At around 13:50 Lenora tries to speak over the music volume and it is difficult to follow. I will do my best transcribe it--

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LKS: And as the group mind has received the miracle now is the experience of revelation which the Course in Miracles says is the results that comes after the miracle and its Heaven's gratitude for what you've done for your willingness to heal. Its so touching. Its so sweet.

"Group mind." When I hear that term I think hive, sheep, Borg, "orders which must be obeyed at all times." 

The camera pans (14:10) to the Big Lug and Susanne Ernst making eyes that look a little more worldly and biological than the higher spiritual plane that is being celebrated. And once the camera returns to Lenora we again hear the freaked out laughter in the background. At 14:25 we are given the special treat of another Lenora Master Thespian performance.

A very bizarre but telling episode.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 01:33:49 am
Oops, here is the correct link to the above Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 02:00:30 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Embodying the Divine Feminine" (9:09) posted May 9, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Embodying the Divine Feminine. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280lsAGqk38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280lsAGqk38)

In this segment the demonstration partner is Susan How, a Canadian trainer who is also a SALPOV event coordinator in British Columbia and administrator of the First Nations Fund.

http://povcanada.com/trainers/susan-how/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/susan-how/)

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LKS: Susie, happy birthday. Its belated, I guess. I usually remember your birthday. Anyway, happy birthday.

SH: Thank you.

LKS: You can have anything you want, because you are the beloved of Heaven.

Around 0:16 something interesting happens. Lenora gives some kind of facial signal to Susan, and How reacts with an expression that reads like, "Oh, yeah, right. I remember this from rehearsal. Sorry to be so slow on the uptake."

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LKS: What would you most love to receive? What would make your life the best?

SH: I'd like to receive the Divine Feminine. [The audience ooohs and aaaahs] 'Cause its all about receiving.

LKS: It is.

SH: Yeah.

LKS: It is.

SH: So that's what I'd really like. And you're the one who can give it to me.

LKS: [Makes a "zap" motion] Lay it on me!

"Embodying the Divine Feminine" is something of a cliché in the New Age world. Google the phrase and see just how many New Age commercial websites use it as a sales pitch. In SALPOV, the use of this term should not be confused with feminism. In a ca. 2008 Daily Mail article, "Fast track to femininity: Why competing with men has left women out of touch with their feminine side" by Anna Pasternak, the SALPOV party line was expressed by none other than Jeff Allen (one wonders if the error of calling him a "psychologist" and the SALPOV founder was by Pasternak or by Allen?)--

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html)

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Psychologist Jeff Allen, founder of Psychology of Vision, who coaches for relationship and business success, said: "Independent women look like they are tough and have their acts together, which is appealing, but really they are well-defended because they don't want to get hurt or be vulnerable."

"But to be feminine, at some level you have got to be open."

"Being open allows connection, intuition and compassion-these are the feminine gifts."

So how do we open ourselves up to our feminine energy, especially if we also want to survive career-wise in a male-dominated world?

"The feminine principle is about allowing things to unfold and happen, not always interfering."

"Career women think that they have to be in control to make it happen, but if they stop and tap into some kind of emotional intelligence and empathy, it makes them better problem-solvers."

According to Allen, you cannot have true success or a successful relationship without the balance of masculine and feminine: "The reason career women feel lonely within themselves and often have a deep sense of failure is because they are not connected to their hearts."
 
"I'm not saying career women should chuck it all away, but if they connect to things that really matter to them, if they start to appreciate little beautiful things every day - literally stop and smell the roses - then what they will have to offer will be really quite profound."
 
Allen also says we must stop competing with men, especially in relationships, as competition is totally destructive.

The UK comedian and activist Kate Smurthwaite pretty much made mincemeat out of Pasternak and Allen. Enjoy--

http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-not-to-write-article-about-womens.html (http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-not-to-write-article-about-womens.html)

Now let us return to the demonstration of stage hypnotism--

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LKS: [to audience] So we're just opening ourselves up to receive the download of "Embodying the Divine Feminine" and whether you're a man or a women, you know, this is what you want. You want that ability to receive, to be graced. Every person is half masculine/half feminine, and you know, Psychology of Vision is really dedicated to restoring the feminine to this world because we know that its our salvation, its what will save us.

So you can probably feel your brain creeping around in there already. That's just the download, its replacing mistaken beliefs about the feminine, replacing it with the truth with our ability to receive because it is our nature to receive all of God's gifts because God is our father, our mother, our beloved and its our true relationship to receive and to share.

[turns to Susan] So, here we go, Susie Q!

At 2:14 Lenora clasps How's hands and nods to the sound crew. "Love, Peace and Wisdom" by Bliss begins to play. Lenora points to her right eye at 2:23, bares her teeth, and the direct gaze method beings.

For some reason I have always felt very uncomfortable with this particular video whenever I walk through this weirdo half-world of SALPOV. In fact, until now I have never been able to watch this one in a single sitting. Interestingly our fellow writers on this thread debbieredbear and autumn have had the same experience of creepiness with this segment--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37541#msg37541 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37541#msg37541)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37557#msg37557 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37557#msg37557)

At around the 5:00 mark this video goes over the top in terms of Lenora's Master Thespian mode. And perhaps what makes us uneasy here is that we know we are not watching someone who is opening their inner self in order to "receive" a channeled Heaven's grace. Instead we are bearing witness to what appears to be one person being dominated by another through hypnotism masquerading as a very expensive New Age healing technique. We find ourselves feeling humiliated for Susan.

Lenora stage manages the obligatory turn to the audience and the two are on self-display until the music ends. The camera pans the Church of the Quivering Brethren.

Meanwhile, Susan has turned back to Lenora, who at 7:24 has to once again stage manage Susan to turn and face the others and the camera. I assume this is done in order to show us viewers what a wonderful thing "downloading/joining" can be. In the course of doing this, Lenora uses a motion where her finger is at eye level, which makes me wonder if Susan's hypnotic trance was still in progress at this point.

Thankfully, the music comes to an end and all we are liberated from this cringe-worthy video.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 02:35:11 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Chillaxing" (5:39) posted May 9, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Chillaxing. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmfpTgQBjAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmfpTgQBjAM)

Lenora's "downloading/joining" partner in this session is Nicky Rangecroft (recently also known as Nicky Pilgrim), who is currently one of the few SALPOV trainers left in the UK as their numbers rapidly decline--


http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/nicky-pilgrim/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/nicky-pilgrim/)

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LKS: So Nicky, I understand today is your birthday and because of that you can receive any gift at all that you want from Heaven. You have a rich Father, everything that is His is yours. You can have anything, receive it as a download, a direct input into your brain that will either change a negative pattern that's in your neuro-net, or add the light pattern that is the positive gift, whatever it is that you want.

So, you must have been thinking about this, knowing it was your birthday. So what would you love to have? Anything you want.

NR: I guess what I'd love to have is relaxation. I'd love to relax.

LKS: What a great idea. [turns to audience] That's a good one, huh?

NR: I think my niece calls it "chillaxing."

LKS: [laughs] "Chillaxing." Great. Alright. To be able to totally chillax. Excellent.

Oh those kids these days and their crazy lingo.

Without further preliminaries, the two clasp hands at 1:18 and an unidentified piece of music plays. For whatever this observation is worth, during the hand clasping in these Youtube examples, the victim always has their palms up, with Lenora's grasping them from above in a dominant position. There seems to be little fumbling in this step among the participants in the video series. Apparently they have all been well-conditioned to respond accordingly.

And the facial carnival starts immediately but Nicky holds out until about 2:55 before the involuntary tremors are evident. At 3:11 or so Lenora lets out a huge exhale and turns Nicky toward the audience.

Now at this point I would like to point out that young Christopher Spezzano, when responding to critics of SALPOV, wrote: "The stories that are being spread on these sites are ridiculous and often lewd." Well, speaking of ridiculous and lewd, from what I can see Charles Lee Spezzano makes juvenile lewd jokes a staple in his presentations as a form of aggression and keeping his audience off-balance. His little sexual puns are pretty junior high school. Charles Lee Spezzano is the same guy who lectures on "emotional maturity":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk)

And in the case of this Youtube, we see Lenora and Nicky mugging to the group as if they have just finished having sex. I'm not kidding. This goes on for two full minutes and the crowd loves it. I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that Lenora and Nicky are doing this, or that the followers find this so damn funny.

Piff has commented on the strong sexual undercurrents of these "downloading/joining" Youtubes, some more than others. Since this corporation is a steep hierarchy, this sexual element is a measurement of control and power, not love, not Heaven's grace. This only increases the creepout factor for those of us who live outside the SALPOV snowglobe.

Oh, not a steep hierarchy you say? Please read the attached Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual (must be signed in to view) before making your conclusion.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 03:11:29 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Greater Intimacy with God" (13:34) posted May 9, 2013.

This is a review of the game changing Youtube where SALPOV started their Big Decline.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Greater Intimacy with God. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)

Lenora's "downloading/joining" partner in this session is Jordan Kao, a SALPOV trainer from Taiwan who has also been trained at Oneness University. As a major recruiter in Asia, one must wonder how much of the Oneness University curriculum remains in translation. As far as I am concerned, this is no big issue, except that Lenora claims Oneness University is not a major influence on SALPOV. But I believe we caught her in a major, oh what is the polite word I'm trying to find? LIE!

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/jordan.htm&prev=search (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/jordan.htm&prev=search)

Jordan was also the one to provide this somewhat sad Youtube of both Spezzanos last summer, where Lenora gives Jordan's group, "The blessing of Heaven as it comes through us ..." It is hard to say exactly why, but something is off about the Spezzanos in Jordan's video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YnScwt8Fg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YnScwt8Fg)

But, back to our series--

In the United States there is an expression in the entertainment industry called "jumping the shark." Without getting into the etymology of this phrase, let us just say it indicates when something has outlived its popularity and uses stupid and silly gimmicks in order to keep attracting attention to itself. The posting of these Youtubes in the first place was a major mistake for SALPOV if they wanted to be taken seriously as "professionals" in the field of healing. But this particular video was the biggest mistake of them all, and that is saying a lot.

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LKS: Jordan! I understand today is your birthday. Happy birthday.

JK: Thank you very much. [as he says this Lenora nods at every word as if Jordan cannot speak English]

LKS: Well said. So because its your birthday and because your Heavenly Father is rich in everything that is His, it's yours, you can have anything and everything that your heart desires for your birthday. You can heal anything, you can receive any gift, you can develop any quality, because it's all just patterns in our brain that determines these things. So grace, the light of divine love can come in, can change our brains through a download. Change the patterns in our neuro-net. You can feel it happening, you may begin to feel it happening already.

So, you can have anything that you want, you can receive it as a gift, what do you most want to have?

JK: [through a translator] I want to have a greater connection/intimacy with God at any time, all the time.

LKS: Greater intimacy with God. That's a sweet one. That's a sweet one. So you can set that down [directs Jordan to lay down the microphone]. Look in my right eye, open ourselves to receiving, and we'll just let the shift happen.

It is the 1:40 to 1:45 mark where Lenora uses her hands in a very transparent hypnotic way, starting with the pointing at the right eye but there is more. If there is any doubt about her use of stage hypnotism, these five seconds should settle the dispute.

She signals the sound crew and the music starts at 1:50, "The Love Within" by Bliss. The audio is very bad.

Jordan's comatose stare begins immediately. His freakout slowly starts at 3:05. At 3:33 he begins to laugh hysterically but Lenora touches his cheek in order to calm him down at 3:54. Lenora begins the familiar "anguish act" around 6:00. There is a facial expression routine she follows I have not fully deciphered, except to say all of these pretty much follow the same formula in every video.

Except in this one.

Around 7:08 Lenora starts doing something deliciously bizarre that is not to be found in the other Youtubes. She once again points to her right eye and instructs Jordan that she is going to spin around! And she does it in a way that would make any normal viewer feel very uncomfortable. Then she actually makes a slow spin in such a fashion that has to be seen to be believed.

Another critic told me that Lenora appears to be doing the equivalent of a SALPOV lapdance, and I can see how it could be interpreted that way. It does make one wonder what Mr. Spezzano thought of this performance.

At 9:34, even though supposedly in the middle of channeling Heaven's grace, Lenora somehow manages to signal the sound crew to play the next round of (unaccredited) music, "Open" by Bliss (audio is still bad) as Jordan continues to be reduced to acting like a moron. Around 10:50 the freakout goes up several notches.

The ritual showing off of the brainwashed to the camera and audience starts around 12:09 as Jordan continues to act unhinged. These final moments in this whole series of videos are almost as if Lenora is displaying her kill for all to admire over and over again. It is like seeing those photos of Florida sports fishermen who proudly stand beside their large conquered catch on the dock.

If someone asked me to supply them with a video summing all that was wrong with SALPOV, this one would be my selection. At first it was the freak show quality of these videos that attracted me to investigate SALPOV, but as I dug deeper I realized SALPOV had a very destructive side and suddenly the joke stopped being funny. Suddenly it became a project to investigate a greedy cult.

So, if you want to learn all about Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV), this video is the place to start. It will tell you most of what you need to know. And, this was the point where SALPOV jumped the shark.
 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 03:48:46 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Healing Competition" (10:17) posted May 9, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Healing Competititon. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUuDfTsPIg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUuDfTsPIg)

The person being subjected to hypnosis in this demonstration is Avril Woodward, who until recently was a trainer for the UK SALPOV. Avril also was the administrator for the www.povevents.com (http://www.povevents.com) website, which has now been in "Maintenance mode" for over two months. Her present connection with UK SALPOV is unclear as she remains listed as a main contact person on the cult's webpage.

Part of Avril's biography (now deleted) on the UK SALPOV webpage was also used as a testimonial in Lenora's "Truth" screed--

http://web.archive.org/web/20131216164911/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/avril-woodward/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20131216164911/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/avril-woodward/)

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LKS: Happy birthday, Av!

AW: Thank you.

LKS: Oh boy! What are you going to get for your birthday?

AW: Well, I'd really like-- world peace?

[Apparently this is quite the humorous in-joke with this crowd. Laughing and hilarity ensue]

AW: Or. Or.

LKS: But seriously.

AW: OK, my second choice.

LKS: No. No. You can have world peace.

AW: I was just joking.

LKS: [to audience, mugs] It was a joke. Awesome.

AW: The healing of competition.

LKS: Healing competition. What an excellent birthday present. What a brilliant thing to ask for. [Turns to audience] You guys ready? Can you imagine what your world, what your life would be like if you had no competition? It would be like, the sky would fall. [Laughter]. Our ceiling seems to be falling but this will be quick. [To camera] The healing of competition.

Female voice from the audience: That's world peace right there.

LKS: Which is world peace. Thank you. Good point.

The music starts, "Touch the Light" by Bliss. This piece does not appear in the text credits and the audio is horrible.

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LKS: So just allow the synapses in your brain to be rearranged and heal your competition.

The direct gaze method and teeth baring begin at 1:33. It takes about a minute before Avril's tremors are visible. At 4:42 the music ends we are treated to a five second gap before "Remember My Name" by Bliss is played, also with atrocious audio.

These five seconds of silence are among the most chilling moments in this entire "downloading/joining" series. You can really see the value of music in sugar coating these sessions. If you want to really be frightened, just watch the remainder of this Youtube without the sound. But I suggest muting this video and around the 6:00 mark playing "The Cold Song" by Klaus Nomi as a substitute soundtrack on another screen. The music seems more fitting in a very appropriate way, emphasizing the sadness of the situation we are witnessing and compassion for how everyone connected with this travesty could have allowed themselves to fall into this trap-- including Lenora.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WehY5vTl4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WehY5vTl4)

But, let us return to the main program. Around 5:30 Lenora goes into her Master Thespian routine. At 6:30 or so we get a pan of the Church of the Quivering Brethren, and we see German SALPOV trainer Anke Schuppan being a heretic by suppressing a yawn.  I'm sure the major time zone changes are somewhat disorienting for all of the trainers visiting there in Hawaii, which works in the Spezzanos favor in terms of manipulating people.

As the light of the setting sun is hitting the room, Avril becomes more bathed in a glow as the video progresses. But we also see a sharp profile shadow of Lenora as she performs the hypnosis. So since the Spezzanos love the use of metaphors, here's my take: the slow emergence of the shadow in this presentation reveals the dark side of the "downloading/joining" mind manipulation for all to see, we get to see Lenora's hidden shadow self revealed as it acts in concert with the public persona. She has become the very sort of Astral Attacker her husband warns us against. In some of the shots, there is a chart behind Lenora that has markings that look like a barbed wire fence, as if she is in a prison of her own making.

Illogical and offbase observations? Of course they are, but really no different in convoluted thinking than anything in SALPOV theology.

The showoff portion begins at 8:37. In the background I can hear someone laughing hysterically.

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LKS: [as the music winds down, she points to the brilliant light in the room made by the setting sun]: Heaven's gratitude. World peace.

This video concludes with a very nice view of the setting sun behind a palm tree, one of the very few examples of artistic camera work in this entire series. A director with more visual imagination and a true sense of marketing could've incorporated more scenes of the amazing Hawaiian natural beauty into these videos and made them more dangerously effective. Just that small touch would've made a big difference.

Still, I will say this: Sure, Lenora's videos might have really awful and inferior production values, but they are ten times more interesting, entertaining and revealing than the boring Youtube presentations of her husband. The videos of Charles Lee Spezzano come across as a television advertisement by a whiney used car salesman-- Lenora's videos have many more levels of complexity. They are interesting for reasons that Lenora did not intend and draw attention to aspects of SALPOV that I am sure they did not want to highlight.

But the horse is out of the barn now. And to quote Charles Bukowski, "The days run away like wild horses over the hills." The Spezzanos have lost control of their message. Internally, SALPOV appears to be experiencing some kind of power shift. Externally, the number of unwelcome critical observers keeps growing.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 04:29:09 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Freedom from Judging the Ego" (15:33) posted May 9, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Freedom from Judging the Ego. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY)

The person being subjected to hypnosis in this demonstration appears to be SALPOV trainer Joy Huang Huishu from Taiwan.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/&prev=search (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/&prev=search)

This particular example is quite disturbing as it borders the world of cult sadomasochism. The predator/prey, victor/victim, dominator/dominated body language in this Youtube is right there in your face. And it is hard to watch. This is about power, not love.

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LKS: Joy, I heard that is a special day. Its your birthday. Yeah? So, because its your birthday you can have anything that you want, you can have your heart's desire. You can heal anything you want, you can receive any gift, develop any quality, whatever you most want that's what we can have if we're willing to surrender and we're willing to shift our minds to make the actual neurological shift in the patterns we have entrenched in our minds. It can be straightened out, ironed out, cleared out, and the truth can come in. So what would you most love to receive?

Keyword: surrender. But not to God. To Lenora. She has inserted herself between the client and God, so in essence, she is now God.

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JHH: [through an interpretor] The thing I want to have most is that I will have no judgment.

[They both laugh]

LKS: [to audience] You remember the first time you just decided, "You know what, from now on I'm just going to stop judging"? Right? You know, age twentywhat, "I'm just going to stop judging." It was so heartbreaking. Its what the ego is, is just pure judgment. Attack. Separation. All of that. But what we can definitely experience while we're here, while we observe the ego inside us operating, we can remember that the ego is not us, its not who we are, its not the truth. And once we understand that, once we've made the shift we have that enlightenment paradigm. We can still get really disappointed when our ego shows up, bites us in the ass, attacks us for judging, you know, or for making a small mistake, and it blows the small mistake up and punishes us for it and we suffer as much as we used to when we were less enlightened. Okay?

So how about if we ask for the freedom from judging ourselves for having the ego?

JHH: [nods Yes]

LKS: Because the ego's with us until the very end, until Oneness, until we completely let the dream go, until we wake up to the true reality that is ours-- Oneness with God in Heaven, since that is the definition of Heaven, Our Oneness with God.

Ah, the good ol' "Oneness." Back in 2007, fresh from her lessons at Oneness University, Lenora renamed the "downloading/joining" procedure--

"Okay, so we're going to be having a joining session. In Psychology of Vision we're starting to call them 'Oneness Sessions' now."

You can find it at the 6:36 mark on this Youtube--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo&noredirect=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LfpuP_gGYo&noredirect=1)

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LKS: So that experience is going on now and as we are pulling away the veils between us and the experience of remembrance of what's really happening and who we truly are. What we can do is that we can forgive ourselves for being in this experience, for this situation in which we are ridden by this ego, that we are slowly but surely dismantling because its not the truth, its not who we are.

Some thoughts. Lenora also tells us in another video our bodies are not who we are. So if you are not your ego, or your body, then who are you? Who are you? For $3000 she'll tell you. Remember, if you haven't failed, you haven't tried--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7eKXKmi24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7eKXKmi24)

Well, that little SALPOV metaphor detour was fun.

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LKS: So we can ask for faith, and the reassurance of who we are in the face of the ego. And just give up the self-judgment that the ego still shows up, y'know, even though its less and less its dissolving, but to just stop giving ourselves such a hard time for any little mistake that we made, or the big mistakes as well. Y'know, because this is a learning situation and we learn through our mistakes. Its not like we are never supposed to make mistakes. Y'know, its through correction that we're learning and its through making mistakes and forgiving ourselves that we pull our judgments off of the world and other people.

"Remember, if you haven't failed, you haven't tried." Boy, that's really profound. Sure worth $3000, huh?

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LKS: So let's just ask for kindness and gentleness and acceptance for ourself in this situation that we seem to be in, in this dream state where we seem to have to share the experience with this ego that hasn't disappeared completely but whom we know is not us. Right? So just that self-forgiveness, that self-acceptance, its just what it is. Okay? Deal.

Now maybe I'm offbase here. But doesn't this sound like she has given permission to psychopaths to be themselves? The term "ego" is so broad and she doesn't really clearly define it, but it seems to me she just dismissed all of our actions in the social world outside of the SALPOV snowglobe as a dream.

OK, I am not a psychologist. But then again, neither are the Spezzanos. I am still sorting out their formula, but it appears to center on guilt. Happy, confident people do not sign up for SALPOV. When you read the testimonials by the cult followers everyone is broken, vulnerable, wounded, in a world of desperate hurt when they showed up at the SALPOV door. Well, they were all that, plus they all had lots of money to throw away. And if they didn't already have some form of self-punishing guilt, the Spezzanos would invent one for them (e.g. The Healing Keys). But poor people need not apply. This a for-profit business after all, you losers! And aftercare, that's going to cost you some big bucks as well.

Then through magical processes like the one about to be demonstrated, these self-appointed conduits to Heaven's grace will remove that guilt! But at a very big price. A very big price.

This next sentence could be viewed as an allegory/pun: Joy is about to pay a very big price for allowing herself to be manipulated by SALPOV--

At 5:04 Lenora signals the sound crew and "Through These Eyes" by Bliss is played with very bad audio. The song should be retitled, "Through my Right Eye." Joy is an easy mark. The tremors begin within 30 seconds. Lenora's Master Thespian act starts at 6:57. Maybe in the future I'll learn the practical function of this consistent feature in all of these videos on the art of mental manipulation. But from my simple earthly perspective it comes across as weird, corny and quite dangerous.

Poor Joy is really freaking out and Lenora is encouraging the process. From about 9:35 to 9:50 Lenora really lays into the whole right eye thing and then gives Joy a nonverbal command through nodding. Joy is now a quivering mess and normal people who are viewing this are surely saying, "Oh God, please let this torture stop! Let that poor woman go!" But no. At 10:30 Lenora extends the humiliation by making gestures again to her right eye in order to prolong this demonstration of her vast power. Rather ironic considering the stated title. The image at exactly 10:32 sums up the entire video. Creeeeepy.

From 10:50 to 11:09 we are provided with a close shot of Lenora's reptilian stare as Joy is loudly sobbing. These few seconds reveal a very predatory and sadistic attitude toward the SALPOV trainers. After watching this, why anyone would want to submit and surrender their dignity,  self-respect and personal freedom to this very public show of humiliation is beyond me.

At 11:22 while Joy is sobbing and shaking out of control, i.e., freaking out, the music changes to "Open" by Bliss (unaccredited) with very bad audio, and Lenora says something to Joy I cannot pick up.

At 12:59 Lenora begins the process of bringing Joy back to Earth from her freak-out hypnotic trance through a series of vertical motions over her eyes no less than eleven times. A pan of the Quivering Brethren and the showoff ritual is around 14:30 and we get a full frontal minute of Joy having a nervous breakdown. 

Lenora Kay Spezzano has no professional credentials or qualifications to be submitting people to this sort of treatment. Actually, nobody should be submitted to this kind of treatment. Hawaii (where this video was recorded) has very lax laws concerning hypnotherapy abuse. Perhaps we need to lobby a few legislators over there to join the 21st century like many states in the mainland in enacting such codes. Such a law in Hawaii would end these "downloading/joining" sessions. Lenora's videos could serve as a classic case study to be shown to lawmakers on why such a law needs to be created.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 04:52:58 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Abundance" (5:04) posted March 15, 2013.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Abundance. Open your heart and receive the gift as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)

The person being subjected to hypnosis in this demonstration is SALPOV trainer Ian Y. Lai from Taiwan. Ian is apparently an optometrist, which means he is the only SALPOV trainer who has probably considered the real scientific meaning of the term "psychology of vision" as it is understood in the world of ophthalmology.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/ian.htm&prev=search (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/ian.htm&prev=search)

So I guess if you want to perform a Boolean search looking for just the ophthalmological meaning of the term, you'd have to type in:

psychology AND vision AND NOT bullshit

On with the show--

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LKS: So Ian, I understand its your birthday.

IYL: Yes.

LKS: Happy birthday!

IYL: Thank you.

LKS: Because its your birthday you get to have a gift from Heaven. And because its a gift from Heaven it can be anything that you want.

Am I missing something here? SALPOV, as a cult inspired by A Course in Miracles, is Christian-based. So, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the idea is that Christians are supposed to serve Heaven, not the other way around? Isn't it preconditioned on the concept that Christians don't tell Heaven what they want, but rather that they are handing their lives over to God and allow themselves to be an instrument of His will?

Not all, but most of these "downloading/joining" Youtubes come across as bratty children telling Santa Claus what they want for Christmas. As we'll see, the example in this reviewed Youtube is especially selfish. Magical thinking in action. OK, so forget the disconnect with mainstream Christianity, this is in direct conflict with ACIM itself! Another example of the split mind in action--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289)

These videos are all about getting (they call it "receiving"). Even in the few Youtubes where I hear anything about sacrifice or serving God from the client (e.g. Jordan), Lenora redirects the attention to herself and the SALPOV program. The behaviour in the Susan How example suggests these topics might have been pre-selected and scripted.

In just one of these I'd like to see the victim say, "What I desire most is-- pancakes!" and then we can see the miracle of pancakes materializing through the power of magical thinking (aka, "manifesting" in SALPOV). Wouldn't that be great?

I'm fascinated by how both Spezzanos started off in the helping professions that were altruistic and transformed into the New Age capitalists they have become. This change appears to have happened in the Reagan era, which makes perfect sense.

Hey, even Nancy Reagan consulted an astrologer. Here's a link to my favorite astrology website:

http://www.sadanduseless.com/2014/10/zodiac-explained/ (http://www.sadanduseless.com/2014/10/zodiac-explained/)

OK, enough frivolity. Let's get back with the program--

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LKS: Anything. We can receive it through a download, OK? So don't be modest and don't be shy, just ask for anything that you want. What would you like?

Right off the bat, around 0:17 to 0:21 Lenora makes hand motions as if she has already started the first stages of the hypnosis process.

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IYL: I would like to have lots of money ...

LKS: OK. [much laughter]

IYL: ... and lots of friends.

LKS: Lots of money and lots of friends. So that's I guess what we would call "abundance." Right?

It is now only at 0:52 and the tremors associated with these stage shows has already begun for Ian.

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IYL: Yes.

LKS: Yeah. Good.

Once again, as Piff has pointed out, Lenora restates and reshapes the language of the request to fit the SALPOV glossary. And now she is going to insert herself between Ian's desires and a Higher Power, as she does with all of these victims. You see how this works.

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LKS: So the download will address the beliefs that you have that show up in your neuro-net as a brain pattern that limits you. So we're going to erase the limiting pattern and replace it with the truth that your God's child, that you have a rich father.

Stop right there. From what I can glean, Lenora herself in real life had a rich father, which might account for the expressions of entitlement she frequently utters on many levels. Suddenly a piece of this little game all makes sense.

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LKS: There's no reason for you not to have abundance in your life. Alright?

So you can probably feel the [points at her cranium]-- they don't wait, they don't understand show business. Its just already started. So just surrender your mind and be willing to have that thought change, and--

As her voice trails off around 1:45 and as the Heavenly powers crowd her skull, waiting to be channeled, she gingerly takes Ian's microphone away while his shaking increases. Then at 1:56 she points to her eye--

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LKS: Just look in my right eye. Yeah.

The music starts at 1:59, credited as "Grace" by Bliss. The audio is terrible.

We are treated to the usual facial contortions Lenora performs in these shows. Ian is really shaking and around 3:00 goes into overdrive. This lasts for a few seconds before Lenora decides to cut the thing short and head right for the trophy display portion of the gig, directing Ian to turn and face the audience. My assumption is that this was indeed cut short because we did not get to see her reach the Master Thespian level of acting that usually accompanies this procedure.

As Ian's tremors border on the level of a seizure, the camera pans the Church of the Quivering Brethren, who are also earning their name. The Big Lug is present as well. This sad spectacle goes on for two full minutes, and where you might think any normal person would express concern over Ian's increasingly violent shaking, this crowd just laughs.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 05:21:54 am
Downloading/Joining Review: "Original Mind" (13:22) posted Dec. 5, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download." Open your heart and receive the gift as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)

This is perhaps the saddest of all these Youtube demonstrations of Lenora's skills as a hypnotist. The hypno-partner here is Babs Stevens, a longtime SALPOV trainer and a leader on Haida Gwaii. After reading Section K of the German language Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual, it is very clear that targeting and cult-ivating (pun intended) FN leaders is part of the game plan in expanding their scheme throughout Canada. One must wonder how much of Babs' travel, lodging, and other fees were provided by public funds. I would love to see a transparent accounting for all of her costs associated with SALPOV. Exactly how many thousands of public and/or grant Canadian dollars have been spent on SALPOV nonsense by Ms. Stevens in her official capacity? And then ask, how else could that money have been used to help the community?   

http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/)

Here is what Babs' says about herself in LinkedIn--

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Experience

Life Coach, Oneness Blessing Giver, Reiki Level 2, l Life Coach, Healing Workshop Facilitator

Psychology of Vision Trainer, Skidegate Band Council CAO
1972 – Present (43 years)

Leadership and Business

Skidegate Band Council
1972 – Present (43 years)

https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30 (https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/babs-stevens/20/ba6/30)

Yes, she's a "Oneness Blessing Giver." Holy Deeksha, Batman! Didn't Babs get the memo from Lenora that Oneness University is no longer part of the dogma? SALPOV is not the only cult Babs is enamored with, and I have the distinct impression that the corporate CEOs in Hawaii have not been entirely pleased with Ms. Stevens' performance as a recruiter for padding the Spezzano bank account.

In fact the Canadian SALPOV has probably declined faster and more dramatically than any other national branch of this cult. Even so, if the cult just vanished today, the toxic damage they created will last another generation.

But here's the deal with Babs and it is what prevents me from feeling totally sorry for her. From what I know, all of the other victims of Lenora in this video series are private citizens. Their ability to create widespread damage is pretty much limited to helping the Spezzanos drain the bank accounts of other monied vulnerable people. But Babs is different. She is in a position of public trust, which she has betrayed. She has chosen to serve the needs of the Spezzanos over the needs of her own constituency. As in many other smaller jurisdictions, much of the politics of Haida Gwaii are all about family, which the Spezzanos knew full well when Section K was written. 

Babs has not only failed SALPOV, she's also failed Haida Gwaii. By embracing cults like SALPOV and others, she has really messed over herself and many other people. Her tenure and legacy as leader has been undermined and decayed by her involvement with SALPOV. 

The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network (APTN) November 2013 "Plastic Healers" exposé of SALPOV could really use a follow-up on their APTN Investigates program. Follow the money! I'm not saying anything illegal has been going on, but I do think a full accounting of exactly how much money over the years has been spent on Babs' SALPOV activities and many trips to Hawaii needs to be aired. She is, after all, a public figure.  Leaders need to be accountable, or perhaps they don't teach that in the SALPOV "Steps to Leadership"?

So basically in this video we will be watching two tired sellouts who have been engaged in a tragic sadomasochistic knot for years. Watch and weep--

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LKS: So I have it on good authority Babs that today's your birthday.

BS: Yes.

LKS: The Universe has declared that today is a birthday for you and you get a birth and you get a gift and the universe will provide anything that your heart desires. So what we're going to be doing is that we're going to receive a download, and downloads are a very elegant form of joining in which we get out of the way and the higher self, the higher mind, Heaven, the creators true light and energy uses my mind, in this case, as a conduit to heal patterns of belief and patterns of habitual thinking of beliefs and injuries and pain. All of those things can be released and healed. We can ask for something that's purely positive and that is just received into the brain as a gift. The sky's the limit, you can have anything you want. What would you like? Its your birthday.

BS: I would like to heal contact .. 

LKS: [grabs the microphone from Babs' hand and shoves it closer to Babs' face] Contact.

BS: Contact. Like for instance when the Haidas totally owned Haida Gwaii and ...

LKS: [turns to audience] So Babs is First Nations from Canada.

BS: ... everyone was innocent then.

LKS: So through colonization, through the various abuses, abuses that your people received, [and we see a couple women in the background going to and from the apparent ladies' room which adds a real touch of class to this presentation] in that process of a sort of a cultural genocide that your people went through ...

BS: Yes.

LKS: ... and a different culture was imposed on them. A different language, a different belief system. And it was very punitive in nature and the children were taken from their homes and put in institutions, families were broken up, it was a very systematic breaking down of everything that was important [at 2:41 in the background a participant sheepishly returns from the ladies room] that kept your culture, your aboriginal culture operating in its healthy true beautiful way. Right?

BS: Smallpox was introduced ...

LKS: Smallpox.

BS: Whole villages.

LKS: Yeah.

BS: Yeah.

LKS: [exhales loudly]

So why is Lenora telling this story and not Babs? Why is this wealthy woman from the States taking control of this narrative? Why is Babs constantly cut off and not allowed to fully explain anything?

Two words: Queen Bee. Babs is clearly the subservient figure here, and by extension, surrendering the power of her leadership position to Lenora Kay Spezzano. Hope you guys on Haida Gwaii like being controlled by Lenora! Our comrade moreinfo introduced me to the concept of "psychocolonization" and this video is a classic case.

But wait, it gets much worse--

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LKS: So you would like to receive the removal of that negative influence that was imposed on your family for many generations. Remove it from your mind, let's say we can remove their minds as well. And for your children and grandchildren, because you know there is only one of us here.

The phrase "there is only one of us here" is another tired New Age cliché the Spezzanos probably "borrowed" from Oneness University in order to sound hip. But to me, this is the clarion of the hive mind, the Borg, the mindless, the gullible. This is not "I am Spartacus."

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LKS: Let's say this is the start of something very important. Psychology of Vision is so committed to supporting aboriginal cultures around the world, but we've really really committed to the First Nations people of Canada that have taken Psychology of Vision and applied it. And because Psychology of Vision shares similar values with their original culture, the understanding of "Oneness," that we're all related, that there's really only one of us here, and it fits so well with their own Native healing approaches, that its just a great success. And there is cultural Renaissance wherever Psychology of Vision goes in the First Nations communities.

Uh, excuse me. Can you say "Manifest Destiny"? And is Babs going to get a word in edgewise? Apparently not. She is merely there as a prop.

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LKS: Because as people are able to heal their own issues and help their families heal there's time to address community issues and when enough families are involved in the healing process beautiful things happen, and cultural values flourish again, people are able to learn their languages again. Its just beautiful. And we receive so much. So much grace, so much beauty, that its such a wonderful two-way street.

So lets declare because its true that we can return to our original mind.

At 5:29 Lenora breaks her normal hypnosis routine and starts right off with the Master Thespian expressions, which are displayed in a weird silence until the sound crews begins to play "Shiv Shakti" by Bliss 15 seconds later.

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LKS: [turns to audience] That's a big one. You really feel this in your brain. So there's nothing wrong if you feel a lot of undulations and things going in your brain. It's all good.

Then at 6:00 the strange mixture of hypnosis and Master Thespian starts for real. Lenora's performance here is especially unsettling. Babs is under the spell almost immediately and the shaking begins, picking up in tempo a few notches around the 8:30 mark. Lenora's traditional timing of the regular Master Thespian stage starts around 9:00.

Even though Lenora is supposedly channeling, she can somehow manage to instruct Babs to "Look right at that camera" for the trophy showoff portion of tonight's program at the 9:50 mark. Babs is trembling violently and stares at us with a vacant, numb face-- as if she has just been hit alongside her head with a 2 x 4.

Starting around 10:32 we get a pan of the Church of the Quivering Brethren. Around 10:42 Lenora says, "Get Melissa," and a few seconds later Melissa Meyer joins the stage and now Lenora has two trophies to display. Melissa was a long time SALPOV trainer in British Columbia until last year.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/melissa-meyer/a/453/95a (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/melissa-meyer/a/453/95a)

Another pan of the Church of the Quivering Brethren reveals the Big Lug lurking in the background. The camera operator appears to be having difficulty achieving a decent focus.

Over the music Lenora talks at 11:40--

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LKS: There are so many peoples in the room that have been colonized, that have been injured this way. But only truth is true.

"But only truth is true." Boy, that's really profound. Sure worth $3000, huh?

Lenora calls Melissa "My daughter" at the conclusion, and a few in-jokes follow, pretty much confirming my long held view that the Spezzanos position themselves to act as surrogate parents for the cult followers. 



 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 01:27:05 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Fulfilling the Promise of Your Relationship" (09:55) posted Dec. 4, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download." Receive the gift of "Fulfilling the Promise of Your Relationship.
"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk)

The subject in this example is Julie Wookey, a UK trainer who until very recently was in the high ranking Star Chamber Steering Committee of SALPOV. As I have proposed, SALPOV is actually two personality cults: One for Charles and another for Lenora. Father and Mother. I submit Julie was allied with the latter and when Lenora basically retired Julie saw no use in continuing. I could be totally offbase here, but until more data comes my way to change my mind, that is where I am settling for now.

http://web.archive.org/web/20130602101244/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/julie-wookey/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20130602101244/http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/trainers/julie-wookey/)

Julie appears to be treated more like an equal than the other victims in this series. She has the opportunity to have actual input in defining the narrative and Lenora actually seems a little flustered in some spots. Ms. Wookey gives the impression of being the most self-confident hypnosis partner in this series.

Curiously, this is the video Lenora uses as a point of first contact to the series on the Hawaii corporate SALPOV website splashpage.

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/)

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LKS: Julie, I understand its your birthday. Its nearly your birthday anyway.

JW: True. True.

LKS: Actually. So you can have anything you want, any heart's desire, everything is available to you as the perfect child of God with a rich father who wants only the truth, the happiest, the best life for you.

So knowing that we can download and receive anything if we're willing to change our mind, and in this case with a download we're actually physically changing our neuro-net in our brain, we're changing the synaptical firing patterns that make up our beliefs and our thoughts, the habitual routes that our thoughts take through that electrical process that goes on in our brain, and with a download we're erasing the negative habitual ruts and freeing our brain, freeing our mind up to the truth and receiving that. In the process as you're watching you'll go through the experience as well, you'll notice that you can feel the inside of your brain, and you'll notice pressure and tingling and different experiences and in fact it may continue after the video and if so that's a good thing. That's what you want. Its that connection with grace that is healing you every day in every way. [Then at 1:44 she makes a strange "Oh God, I can't believe I just said that" sort of face].

So, Mrs. Wookey, what would you most love to have?

JW: Mr. Wookey. [laughter]
 
LKS: Yes! Where are you, Nigel? Well said.

JW: But really ...

LKS: Yes.

JW: ... I would really love to have more of what we have. In the stage in our life that we have now, with the children grown up, left home, we have free time ...

LKS: Doing well.

JW: Yeah, yeah. But now I want it to be for us, something for us. A greater level of relationship.

LKS: Uh-huh, and all the rewards and benefits of intimacy, the fun ...

JW: The joy ...

LKS: .. the laughter, the connectedness, the comfort, the vision, and the gracefully surrendering into our old age together. Precious, precious vision ...

JW: Totally.

LKS: Got it. [to audience] So for everyone what that looks like is, what would we call it? Fulfillment in our partnerships. Is that the best way to ...? [sighs] What's juicier than that? Juiciness in our relationships.

JW: Well sure. Its a feeling of total completion in the relationship so it can just benefit from that. I mean it never stops ...     

LKS: The feeling of promise in the relationship?

JW: Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, and ...

LKS: Having it all in our relationship.

JW: And it would be like not fully in love romance but just deeper, higher, just all of that in there as well, 'cause we love that.

LKS: Yeah, yeah. And because the romance is already there, the in love feeling is there.

JW: Its sort of ...

LKS: Its the fulfilling the promise of the relationship.

JW & LKS: [in unison] Yeah.

LKS: OK. [Lenora nods to the sound crew at 4:37, and then turns to audience] You ready? Just go ahead, feel the shift, surrender your mind, your brain, your way of being, to become more true, to receive, to have it all. Fulfillment.

Then she turns to Julie and begins the direct gaze method as the sound crew plays "This Love" by Bliss at the 4:56 mark. As usual, the audio is atrocious.

As far as these things go, this is a pretty understated session, Julie's tremors are not nearly equal to that of most of the other victims here. But then again, I'm sure she's an old hand at this. Lenora goes through her regular pattern and checklist of grimaces, teeth baring, and Master Thespian expressions.

Trophy display time starts at 7:25. Julie actually looks in worse shape at this part of the program than she did when she was under hypnosis. We first get to see the Church of the Quivering Brethren around the 7:55 mark. The trophy time takes no less than two and half excruciating minutes. That's enough time for the viewer to start wondering what the heck we just saw and form some serious questions about this carnival act. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 01:49:10 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Freedom From Fear" (07:43) posted Nov. 26, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download." Open your heart and receive the gift of "Freedom From Fear."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQDPuf592Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQDPuf592Q)

The victim du jour appears to be Japanese SALPOV trainer Mami Yoshida.

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LKS: So Mami-san, the universe declares that today's your birthday, and that you can have anything that you want. You can receive any gift that you desire. Anything that you can take into your mind, change your beliefs about, restructure your neuro-net, erase the negative beliefs and limiting patterns in your mind, in your brain, and replace them with the freedom and the understanding that everything that is good is yours. Right?

So, because its your birthday and there's one gift that you want above all others [audience laughs at this in-joke, Lenora teases them] Guys, just one. [back to Mami] What would you most love to have in your life?

MY: I'd like to receive removal of fear.

LKS: Freedom from fear, yes?

MY: Yes, yes.

LKS: Yeah, right. So, what is freedom from fear? Is it courage? Would you like courage in facing all challenging situations, or just not to have to deal with fear anymore?

MY: Yeah. [It is apparent Mami didn't fully understand the question, probably due to a language barrier]

Doesn't this role of Lenora bestowing the gift of courage remind you of a certain Wizard?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amclN9RG49c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amclN9RG49c)

Of course, we all know what happened to the Wizard. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQxD4Ff7dY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQxD4Ff7dY)

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LKS: Both. Yes, yes, alright, so we're going to shift our fearful habits, right? We'll let them go and know that everything that happens in our life is happening because its in our best interest. And that we can embrace all things just as they are without resistance knowing that its all coming from a higher part of our mind, because its what we most need. Sometimes the lessons are challenging and sometimes what comes through is just blessed. But its all good and today we surrender to what is and receive the gift of freedom from fear and the removal of the patterns of fear in our minds because we're courageous. OK? 

Under this reasoning, Lenora should be embracing the growing number of SALPOV critics because "everything that happens in our life is happening because its in our best interest."

At 2:59 Lenora nods to the sound crew and "I'll be Waiting" by Bliss is played. The music audio, as usual, is terrible. I'm guessing that live in the room it was just fine, but it did not transfer to Youtube very well, and in fact the bad quality pretty much erases the effect they were trying to present.

As Lenora engages in her vast array of wacky expressions, Mami begins trembling fairly early in the show. As always, we are given two different camera shots of Lenora in the course of this procedure, but we are only allowed to see the victims in profile in these Youtubes while the direct gaze method is employed. That is because these videos are all about Lenora, not the victim.

Trophy display time begins at the 4:35 mark, so this was a fairly quick session. Mami appears to be sort of freaking out while Lenora is just smiling away. Such a strange ritual they have there in SALPOV.

The first shot of the Church of the Quivering Brethren starts at 5:05. And yes! I see the Big Lug in there around the 6:06 mark. Since he always seems to wearing the same shirt perhaps he's an employee of the hotel where this event takes place? Interesting.

At 6:45 Lenora says to the audience--

LKS: Heaven's gratitude is just pouring into our minds. (http://LKS: Heaven's gratitude is just pouring into our minds.)

And gratitude is pouring through my mind that this video has finally ended, although it is evident that Mami's tremors will continue for some time even after the camera stops filming.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 02:30:27 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Healing Shame" (07:46) posted Nov. 23, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download." Open your heart and receive the gift as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys)

Today's contestant in this popular game show also known as "What's My Lyin'?" appears to be Japanese SALPOV trainer Naoko Takahashi, I think.

Contrary to what the SALPOV cult followers might believe, I personally have never written a comment on any of these Youtubes, but several other critics have (there is more than one of us here), and those contrary viewpoints have been erased as well as Lenora's responses to them. However, as of today when I am writing this, one comment on this particular video seems to have survived the purge and it really sums up what most of us think when we view these "downloading/joining" Youtubes. The comment from neptuniumforest a year ago is simply, "what in the world"

Yup, I have been asking myself that same question for more than a year and a half now. 

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LKS: Happy birthday, Naoko-san.

NT: Thank you.

LKS: So, its your birthday. You can have absolutely anything you want. You can have any change in your world, in your life that you want because you know how it works, change your mind, change the world.

The Boomers sure wanted to change the world, it was one of the distinguishing characteristics of that generation.

And then came the Big Chill. The Spezzanos sold out all that was precious and spiritual and turned it into a carnival act as they appropriated cultural bullet points from First Nations, Hawaiians, India, etc. and then turned around and repackaged and marketed this stuff at incredibly high prices under the copyright-free umbrella of A Course in Miracles. Both Spezzanos started out in altruistic occupations, but what happened to these two? How did they become the sad self-imprisoned caricatures of hucksters we see today?

Of course one obvious answer looms large. Money. And, to some degree, power. But money appears to be the main incentive from my perspective.

Back to the sideshow--

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LKS: So, you can have any download, you can receive any gift that you like. What would you most love to receive?

Listen carefully to her tone at "What would you most love to receive?" (starting about 0:37) and watch her facial expressions and body language after she asks that question. In the seconds between her question and Naoko's answer Lenora sort of breaks character, deflates and projects an expression of trapped resignation and barely concealed resentment that she has to lower herself to perform these dog and pony shows in order to promote her vast "powers." Try it frame by frame. Fascinating visual dynamic taking place here.

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NT: I want to take shame. Take shame?

LKS: Uh-huh, remove shame.

NT: Remove shame? Yes.

LKS: [turns to audience] This is so important in Japanese society, right? Shame is so ingrained. I get chicken skin when I say that.

"Chicken Skin" is actually a disease called Keratosis pilaris--

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/keratosis-pilaris/basics/definition/con-20025750 (http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/keratosis-pilaris/basics/definition/con-20025750)

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LKS: Its just, just from birth you're sort of behavior modified to the use of shame. So that's a brilliant gift, that's a brilliant thing to request. And we have a number of Japanese people with us but this shame is deeply ingrained in all of us. And it's just not the truth. So we're willing to let go of these ingrained patterns, this belief that were are guilty and that we should feel shame, that we don't deserve to be forgiven for our mistakes, OK?

So this download will remove the belief that you should feel shame, it will remove the pattern, the habitual ingrained pattern in your neuro-net, the firing of the synapses that habitually take you and lead you into shame. It'll remove that and replace it with the understanding that you're innocent. And yes of course we all make mistakes. We're learning through our mistakes. But there's no cause, no reason for shame. OK?

NT: Yes.

LKS: Good one, OK.

So, perhaps this is an unfair question. But what if you are Ted Bundy? Lenora's theology seems to be a perfect fit for psychopaths. Shame does serve a purpose in our lives, after all. And maybe in Japanese culture the concept of shame is a very important cog in the cultural machine. No matter to Lenora, let's make them more like Americans! Manifest Destiny rules, man!

At the 2:45 mark Lenora signals the sound crew and "This Love" by Bliss has begun. At 2:52 Lenora directs her victim to stare at her right eye.

If you read Lenora's "Truth" screed you'll see she pretty much avoids the whole hypnosis charge including the many details we have brought up and she attempts to change the subject with distractive flak. But quite frankly I think she has given us the perfect evidence to have a hypnotherapy abuse law finally enacted in Hawaii.

Naoko's trembling begins immediately. Then trophy time starts at 5:12 and we are treated to our first pan of the Church of the Quivering Brethren at 5:36. And yes, I see the Big Lug is there too.

What in the world?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 03:09:23 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Surrendering to God's Concept of You" (08:09) posted Nov. 19, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" of the gift of Surrendering to God's Concept of Yourself. Open your heart and receive the gift as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5k2Ch77VU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5k2Ch77VU)

The victim here is a woman I do not recognize, and Lenora's pronunciation of her name is difficult to translate. So I'll just call her Saki since that sounds close and she is apparently Japanese. I sincerely apologize for the lack of data here and my guesswork. No personal disrespect is intended.

I always liked this session for two reasons. First, the initial question goes against the grain of most of these "downloading/joining" shows because the subject is willing to ask God, "What do YOU want me to do?" rather the usual SALPOV selfish "Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie" (i.e., "receiving") where God is equated with Santa Claus (aka, Seasonal Gift Giving Man) and Lenora is Santa's little helper. But as we'll see, I become once again disappointed by the direction of this seemingly noble request in SALPOV. Secondly, this one has the most surreal and unintentionally humorous conclusion that makes me laugh every time.

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LKS: So [Saki-san (?)], I understand its your birthday. And I understand that means that you can have anything that you want. Anything you want, we can receive it ...

Lenora has already started the hand motions for hypnosis at this point.

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LKS: ... all we have to do is be willing to have our mind changed, our brain patterns changed so that we can receive what in truth we deserve. We deserve every good thing, we have a loving, rich father, who wants only the very best for us.

Well said and spoken like the entitled American that she is. Normal, workaday wage slave people around the world are too busy trying to makes ends meet to have the time or the incredibly large amounts of money required for entry into SALPOV. What Lenora is running here is a spiritual gated community. Heck, just to get into the SALPOV Healing Metaphors A-Z, a foundation block of the cult, you need a special password. And apparently inter-cult communication is done through the expensive corporate Comindwork network. Working class people need not apply. To be a cult follower in good standing you need to be able to afford airfare to and lodging in Hawaii for extended periods, plus the thousands, yes, I said thousands in fees required to be a SALPOV trainer EVERY YEAR!

What a scam.   

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LKS: [looks at her victim and lays into the right eye thing for a moment] So, of everything you could possibly have, what would you most love to receive?

Interesting that Lenora really starts the direct gaze method early in the process here. But I went in reverse chronological order in these reviews, so perhaps she was still in the learning stages here.

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S: [through a translator] I would like myself to surrender totally to God.

LKS: [Gives S. the ol' right eye and then says--] Surrender totally to God. What would that look like or be like? What quality or aspect are you imagining and wanting to receive?

S: The state of no tension. Its a state of no self-judgement and self-doubt. Without having to ask, am I right or wrong?

Saki's motivation is not entirely selfless. She wants to be free of typical human foibles. I was sort of hoping to see at least one SALPOV cult follower mention the word "sacrifice" and being willing to experience some potential hardship when it came to serving God's will. But no. This is a cult all about getting (i.e. "receiving"), and getting a lot (i.e. "abundance").

Since Lenora is presenting herself as a conduit between the person making the request and "Heaven's grace," she in effect becomes the physical embodiment of God during her weirdo parade of expressions. Personally, I think God has more class than that.

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LKS: OK. So is it as if you would be willing to receive the self concept that is the concept that God has of you? Does that sound good?

S: [nod yes]

LKS: OK? Yeah, yeah. To just commit to letting go of the self-judgment, the self-attack that who you are is not what you should be. You recognize that this ego that we all have to live with, you know, that that is not you. That who you are is still as God created you. Perfect and whole, and one with Him in Heaven, right here and right now. Alright, that's a good one.

S. nods yes throughout Lenora's monologue, but it is not apparent she really understands what is being said. My opinion is that Lenora took this request and reshaped it to conform with SALPOV's manipulation of guilt as their core lure for drawing in other suckers. Actually, this technique of reshaping and restating the victim's request to fit the SALPOV dogma is consistent in almost all of these Youtubes.

This should serve as a consumer warning for all of you considering jumping into the Psychology of Vision cult. They will use you much more than you could ever use them.

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LKS: [looks at audience] Are you ready?

Then she nods to the sound crew at 2:56, who play "Om shanti" by Bliss, and the direct gaze method of hypnotism starts for real. The audio is incredibly bad, as usual. Given the importance of music in her mind manipulation process, this audio defect alone would have prevented me from releasing these videos as a marketing tool, but apparently Lenora is from the Ed Wood school of filmmaking. Come to think of it, it was the same part of me that was fascinated by the utter failure of Ed Wood films that also served as the original attraction to Lenora's videos, and hence SALPOV. As I mentioned earlier at first I found her videos to be humorous, but then it dawned on me how sadistic and powertripping they were. And I could no longer just stand by and simply laugh as I learned how this cult victimized people.

During the hypnosis time in this video there is nothing unusual. The victim trembles and Lenora goes through her predictable stages of weirdass expressions. In the final minute during the trophy display we see something pretty funny. We are treated to a solid minute of Lenora posing in the role of a local festival queen aboard a parade float waving blankly. Her frozen expression reminds me so much of those joke conclusions on those old Police Squad epilogues--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_3rJqHWYjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_3rJqHWYjs) 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 04, 2015, 03:22:03 pm
Downloading/Joining Review: "Courageous Heart" (07:44) posted Nov. 19, 2012.

Text introduction:

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Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers. Together with her husband, Chuck Spezzano, she co-founded the healing model of Psychology of Vision. Lency teaches healing through an opening of the heart and channeling of Heaven's grace. Here Lency is channeling an engergic [sic] "Download" for a "Courageous Heart." Open your heart and receive the gift as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s-UzMEwc4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s-UzMEwc4A)

In this final review the victim is apparently Joyce Cheng, who appears to be a SALPOV trainer from Hong Kong--


http://www.pov-chinese.com/joyce.htm (http://www.pov-chinese.com/joyce.htm)

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LKS: Happy birthday, Joyce.

JC: Thank you.

LKS: So, since its your birthday and Heaven loves you, you can have anything you want for your birthday. What gift would you like to receive?

JC: [through translator] I want to have a heart that is able to healing all the issues in the world. A very creative heart.

As the translator speaks Lenora has already started the preliminary direct gaze method.

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LKS: So you're asking for a creative heart that is willing to heal anything, capable of healing anything. So that sounds like a courageous heart. A creatively, creatively, creatively courageous heart.

JC: [nods yes numerous times]

LKS: OK. Yeah, because everything heals. Absolutely everything heals. [to audience] So we'll be receiving a download that's going to erase our pattern of fear that throws us in a clutch of fear when we're facing a big challenge. So we'll gain the trust that we can handle everything, we have the courage, we have the faith, the trust to get us through with grace, with ease, with a joyful heart. A good attitude.

So you can begin to feel it already. In the studio audience out there you will feel the shift happen in your brain and that's a good thing. And even if you feel this experience of pressure inside of your brain for the rest of your life-- that's what we're looking for. Because that's just healing, that's just connecting with grace to heal your mind and change your world. [turns back to Joyce] Courageous heart.

Did you catch that? "... even if you feel this experience of pressure inside of your brain for the rest of your life" !!!??? No further comment is required here.

At 2:17 Lenora nods to the sound crew and "Silence" by Bliss is played. Lenora's teeth-baring wacky expressions start immediately, as if someone had flipped a switch and she is suddenly "on." Funny how that works. Joyce's trembling quickly follows. Lenora's Master Thespian portion of this act has a little more oomph to it than most of the others, although at 4:39 she actually coughs while in mid-download.

Trophy time begins at 5:53, and Joyce's trembling continues to build. We are treated to our first pan of the Church of the Quivering Brethren at 6:31.

I have now reviewed every single one of these "downloading/joining" videos. The fact they exist for public inspection is remarkable because to me, and several others, these appear to be case studies in the abuse of hypnosis.

I used to wonder if Lenora really believes her own theology and is in fact delusional, or if she is just a cynical grifter. And I still don't know the answer. But either way it doesn't really matter. What matters is that what she is doing is very dangerous and apparently has no program for followup or aftercare unless the client is willing to fork out more big bucks. The sooner Hawaii passes a strong hypnotherapy abuse law the better.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 05, 2015, 07:54:14 pm
The Death of UK SALPOV?

Interesting development in the Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) branch in the UK. As of this morning, it appears there are only four trainers left, as Alex Patchett-Joyce has been dropped from the roster:

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/category/trainers/)

Combine this with the absence of the annual UK events with the Spezzanos, the apparent death of the www.povevents.com (http://www.povevents.com) website, and the rapid decline of SALPOV trainers there and one begins to conclude that the main UK SALPOV could be on the way out.

Jeff Allen's Steps to Leadership spinoff has eclipsed the Spezzano-centered website.  On the UK SALPOV events page (where Alex is still listed) , most links will take you out of the SALPOV website and plop you right into Allen's own VisionWorks for Life for-profit site:

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/events/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/events/)

http://visionworksforlife.com/events/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/events/)

Several ex-UK SALPOV trainers have signed on as "facilitators" for Jeff's various "Steps" programs:

http://visionworksforlife.com/facilitators-and-groups/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/facilitators-and-groups/)

And Jeff's program is either in direct competition with, or poised to take over, the Central Europe SALPOV, where the Big Money is. Ingeborg recently profiled this group:

http://visionworksforlife.de/facilitators-and-groups/ (http://visionworksforlife.de/facilitators-and-groups/)

Being brainwashed into the SALPOV dogma appears to remain a requirement for enrollment as a facilitator, but the amount of dough for your "license" and renewal is considerably less than what the Spezzanos charge:

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First time licence – £350 (ex VAT) plus postage outside of the UK

Renewal licence – £300 (ex VAT)

Per participant fee – £90, (ex VAT) plus postage outside of the UK

http://visionworksforlife.com/personal-development/steps-to-leadership/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/personal-development/steps-to-leadership/)

I used to think the Canadian SALPOV would be the first to lose all the trainers, but now it appears the UK could possibly win that prize.

I'll make a guess. Charles Lee Spezzano will be severely curtailing his future book tours in Europe and workshops in general-- perhaps even retire. In the meantime, Jeff Allen has been groomed to take over. He's the only European left on the SALPOV Steering Committee so far as I know. That's my theory for today, at least. My question in the midst of this power shift is, what is the money trail? What is Hawaii's cut of this action?

Because, as we all know, its all about the money.


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 07, 2015, 09:02:35 pm
Babs Stevens testimonial concerning her participation in this cultic, large group awareness training group:

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My Haida name is Iljulawas, and my English name is Babs Stevens. In 1976 I started on my Healing Journey and throughout the years tried many different modes of healing, slowly chipping away at my ego.  In 1991 a friend brought Lency & Chuck Spezzano to my hometown of Skidegate, Haida Gwaii, to lead a Psychology of Vision seminar. They gave the seminar for free, charging no fees, just help with some travel, lodging and meals.  What a gift to share!  After that first PoV 3 day seminar I never looked back!  The healing method was years quicker than any other mode of healing I had ever encountered. My husband, daughter and my family and friends were so proud of me, leading the way for us, our Community, our Haida Nation and humanity by healing myself.  I graduated to Level One Trainer in 2000; I conduct seminars in my hometown and lead by example in my Community.

I have worked for our Band Council for 42 years, working my way from receptionist to Chief Administrative Officer.  I am thankful that Psychology of Vision came into my life. My late husband and his late Hereditary Chief Chee Xial always told the group of us doing the work, that although they had never attended seminars themselves, they received the results of the healing from us, and to never stop what our group was doing!  That fills my heart!

Haaw’a  (Thank You) Lency and Chuck; you have made a huge difference in the lives of thousands of First Nations people and we appreciate you!

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/canadian-testimonials/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/canadian-testimonials/)

Has POV healed Ms. Stevens and other followers? Are they truly, measurably more effective as leaders and community members? Or does POV have them tricked, fooled, throughly dazed and confused?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 08, 2015, 01:21:51 am
Chi Ching from Tapei, Taiwan has been a POV trainer since Jan 2005. Her Facebook account is under Chiching Sic. She is one of the trainers listed on this site http://www.mygrowthvision.com/trainers#filter=* (http://www.mygrowthvision.com/trainers#filter=*)

She is a Buddhist nun, I wonder how much she has been able to recruit fellow Buddhists.

Chuck Spezzano has recruited for quite awhile in Taiwan, along with other Asian countries.

http://www.pov-chinese.com/ (http://www.pov-chinese.com/)

http://povj.jp/ (http://povj.jp/)

Anyone who knows the relevant languages is highly encouraged to join in with research and spreading the word. Maybe we can start loosening the POV grip on these countries too.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 12, 2015, 07:06:05 pm
Babs Stevens is a Level 1 trainer of Psychology of Vision ( a cultic, destructive large group awareness training run by Chuck and Lency Spezzano). She is also a follower of the drug dealing, con man Erick Gonzalez/Spirit Jaguar.

http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/ (http://povcanada.com/trainers/babs-stevens/)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.msg39695#msg39695 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3420.msg39695#msg39695)

The stated principles of POV include:

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1) Whenever there is a problem or conflict, there has to be a better way. Even in the most difficult of situations, there is always a solution that would allow everyone to win. Love, joining, forgiveness, communication, cooperation, and choice will lead us through.


http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/)

Yet in direct contradiction to POV principles extolling freedon of choice, forgiveness, empathy, and healing - Ms. Stevens is now engaged in outright bullying.

A community member who dared chart her own healthy path, which includes walking away from destructive cults, is now being shunned by Ms. Stevens. Ms. Stevens has rescinded the community member's adoption into her family. This is an unprecedented action.

Other community members express confusion, dismay, and revulsion concerning Ms. Stevens' actions.

Ms. Stevens is engaged in relational aggression.

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Manifestations of relational aggression include:
Excluding others from social activities;
Damaging victim's reputations with others by spreading rumors and gossiping about the victim, or humiliating him/her in front of others;
Withdrawing attention and friendship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_aggression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_aggression)

As the Chief Administrative Officer of the Skidegate Band Council http://www.skidegate.ca/ (http://www.skidegate.ca/), Ms. Stevens' bullying actions carry great weight on her victims.

Chuck Spezzano himself proposes "healing the bully":

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HEALING THE BULLY (SHADOW) is the card of the day. This is what occurs when we get stressed and afraid. When we feel oppressed or needy we compensate with the feeling of entitlement beyond others feelings or needs and we justify our belligerence and taking.

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/02/healing-bully-shadow.html?view=classic (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/02/healing-bully-shadow.html?view=classic)

I propose that Chuck Spezzano, Lency Spezzano, Erick Gonzalez, Babs Stevens and all others look to their own house. By being bullies they make it clear that their supposed spiritual systems are actually disguises for money grubbing con artists. They are welcome to their beliefs, what matters is their behavior. They are behaving like bullies.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 13, 2015, 04:22:17 pm
The actions of Babs Stevens does seem to violate most of the points SALPOV professes to follow in their "Principles"--

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/principles-of-pov/)

You would think that after years of being brainwashed the least she could do is put up a good front. But she can't even do that. Her actions are not exactly a great advertisement for the wonders of SALPOV training.

Perhaps some folks who are close to the situation could be invited to fill out the SALPOV Complaint Form, part of a procedure for SALPOV to deal with trainers who act unprofessionally--

http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/trainer-complaint-procedure/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.com/about/trainer-complaint-procedure/)

Of course, I highly doubt any disciplinary measure would be taken. The Spezzanos are too hungry for territory on Haida Gwaii and they need Babs as their tool-- a role that Babs is more than willing to fill. But it would be curious to see how the "Steering Committee" and the "Hero of Forgiveness" would handle this situation.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 18, 2015, 12:25:06 am
There's a new option at the bottom of the UK SALPOV splash webpage, "Trainer websites" and when you follow that button it gives you a link to Jeff and Sue Allen's VisionWorks page. As of today no other links are provided in that category, but since there are only two other trainers in this group I wouldn't expect a ton of extra UK trainer links to be added. 

http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/featured/trainer-websites-2/ (http://www.psychologyofvision.co.uk/featured/trainer-websites-2/)

This is part of a recent development in the last few months for various sections of the UK SALPOV webpage, where the reader is increasingly led to the VisionWorks site as the end destination. Another indicator that UK SALPOV is in a state of major transition and experiencing some sort of power shift.

Also the www.povevents.com website, the UK site used to promote the Spezzanos personally, has been down for three months.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 19, 2015, 06:04:14 pm
Francine Girard has always been something of a mystery to me whenever I encounter her name in connection with Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV). According to the 2011 English language Trainers Manual, she is a member of the elite SALPOV Steering Committee and has additional duties as a Program Administrator in charge of the trainers. In fact, Francine wrote the Trainers Manual and even has credit for authoring the German version, which meant she must have been fully aware Section K (First Nations Fund) was not to be shared with English-speaking readers via their manual, particularly with FN but also including the Canadian trainers themselves! Yet Canadian trainer Susan How administers the Fund! What is up with that?! I would so much love to know who made the decision not to include Section K in the English version and why.

http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf (http://www.pov-int.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014-03-31_dt_Trainerhandbuch_sec_Endversion.pdf)

From my sources I understand that some other SALPOV trainers quietly grumble and do not quite understand how Francine managed to climb so high and so fast up the corporate ladder in this for-profit business. This is a cult with a steep hierarchy, yet there are some players who appear to have unique associations with the Spezzanos and be the subject of inexplicable favoritism. We have already covered to some degree two characters who fit into this category-- Michael North and Django Hediger. Ms. Girard is a third person who can be classified into this slot. Public information regarding her career is sketchy at best.

In this post I'll examine some Youtube presentations that yielded more information on Francine. With Julie Wookey now gone, Francine is the second highest ranking SALPOV female after Lenora Spezzano in the North American/Europe half of the cult, yet we know little about her.

From previous work by Piff we know that Francine lives in Everett, Washington, USA, north of Seattle. She is possibly still a Canadian citizen, but married to an American. As far as I can ascertain, she has never held a SALPOV workshop in her home area. But she has visited the ASK SALPOV crew over in Asia more than once, and seems to have been a headline speaker there in recent years.

https://www.facebook.com/events/790249480998396/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/790249480998396/)

http://askvisions.com/news_detail_46-2013_francine_parenting.asp (http://askvisions.com/news_detail_46-2013_francine_parenting.asp)

http://askvisions.com/news_detail_63-2014_francine_parenting.html (http://askvisions.com/news_detail_63-2014_francine_parenting.html)

Her topics are family dynamics, particularly in the area of child raising. Francine is a good presenter. She's articulate, employing a relaxed conversational tone. She exudes a convincing sincerity that eludes either of the Spezzanos when they perform their own shows. I give her strong points for form, but we'll get to the content later. Aye, there's the rub.

Here are the links to the Youtubes. They were loaded by ASK Hong Kong in 2012. There are two presentations, each split into 5 parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5e4hRSps48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5e4hRSps48)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuKqe9exSkQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuKqe9exSkQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L7Q3-MSsn8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L7Q3-MSsn8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkSFNid2KA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkSFNid2KA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sk7PtekvGA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sk7PtekvGA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXOKQg7sjm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXOKQg7sjm8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TspnlY-tPU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TspnlY-tPU0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpkmPl4Li90 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpkmPl4Li90)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76a6chXP4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76a6chXP4s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_xdQ2Dnn8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_xdQ2Dnn8)

Francine's talks are in a small room not really big enough for the group. A SALPOV triangle (swiped from Bob Trask) is in the background. The translation is provided by SALPOV trainer Peter Lo who is always at Francine's side.

A word about Peter. Here is the clunky Google translation (e.g., "fathered a child and a daughter") of his background on the SALPOV Asia site--

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/peter.htm&prev=search (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.pov-chinese.com/peter.htm&prev=search)   
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Lu Weixiong Peter Lo

Personal qualifications profile:

He graduated from the University of Wisconsin, the heart of the current ASK Power International Business Consultants Ltd. (Taiwan / Hong Kong) president, fathered a child and a daughter. 1997 ARC International Ltd. of Hong Kong into work, training to become a source of basic courses and online course instructor, in 2003 entered the PoV study and complete the second phase of India's unity baptism in 2010.

Embrace of the "Friends Helping Friends, healing the soul, save the planet," the vision, the integration of the school itself, contains the basic courses in the "awakening", a source in the online course "surrender and lay down," known in psychology to see "Love and healing "with his usual humor, wisdom and humor, lead the students together at different heights, more in-depth self-exploration, focus, and further initiating cells deep memories of the" wisdom "and" the real me. "

Personal Contact Phone Number: 88626600-8811

Facebook: Peter Wai Hung Lo

E-mail: povpeterlo@gmail.com

Communications Address: Songshan District Taipei, Keelung Road as well as the second floor Floor

Website: http://askvisions.com/open_index.asp
 

Hmm, what is this "India's unity baptism in 2010" stuff? Why, Oneness University, I'm betting! But wait, Lenora said "There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs." What's the deal here? Let us take a look at Peter's Profile Engine, where he is proudly standing in front of OU (also I took the liberty of attaching the image)--

http://profileengine.com/people/217878298/toby.lo#/people/63417763/peter.wai.hung.lo (http://profileengine.com/people/217878298/toby.lo#/people/63417763/peter.wai.hung.lo)

Here's a webpage where Peter is mentioned along with Lenora glowing about "Oneness" and Charles Lee Spezzano is called a "guru"--

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-TW&u=http://blog.yam.com/HKPOV/article/21735755&usg=ALkJrhhnPKM1G71PCGfi7AEPBP_fvzECmw (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-TW&u=http://blog.yam.com/HKPOV/article/21735755&usg=ALkJrhhnPKM1G71PCGfi7AEPBP_fvzECmw)

Back to Francine.

You might ask, how is Francine qualified to be lecturing on this topic? Well, according to her, "I started to be a spiritual seeker very young. I was about 13." And, "As a parent myself, as a teacher of POV, but also before POV I taught for 13 years, children. So there's just some experience." 13 seems to be a key number here, but let's move on.

We'll dismiss the SALPOV experience she cites as a worthless credential since we are talking about a dangerous personality cult run by two unregulated, unlicensed, unprofessional  charlatans who are all about the money. The mention of 13 years of teaching is intriguing. Where? When? For who? What are her qualifications and what training did she have for this? This is the only place I have ever seen mention of her educational occupation in the past. Why is this not in her official SALPOV biography on the Canadian website? 

Her declaration of being a parent is her best qualification. She tells us she has two small children, both of them at the time Kindergarten age and younger. And she displays many of the naive notions of parents with children that young. I think most of my fellow survivors of raising teenagers to adulthood would watch Francine set forth her earnest program of guidelines for raising children and ... how can I say this without sounding condescending? I guess I can't, so I won't, except to say Francine is in for some real "enlightenment" in her future, and not the commercial fakey kind peddled by Lenora. No. Instead she is going to get the real life lessons that are much more challenging and potentially rewarding. And there will be parts where she will find herself having to choose between SALPOV and her family. She touched on this a bit during her talks and rationalized it away. The first cracks in the "split mind" are starting.

And as much as I know loving our children is a universal thing around the world, cultural differences are very real and need to be respected. For Francine to tell Asians how to raise their children seems an extension of the North American Manifest Destiny that is at the core of the ethnocentric Spezzano cult theology. Actually, what Francine really did was tell us a lot about her own family dynamics and used that as a model for her Asian audience to follow. I now know more about her family than I ever wanted to. She overshared.

Although these presentations were under the auspices of SALPOV, Francine did not really praise the cult directly except for in the 5th link I provided, where she gushed about Lenora and used the "you can have it all" appeal.

Now here is the part that is sad and ironic. In the very last of the ten links I provided, Francine says that she wants "to be more and more harmless in my ways, but I don't want to give up my power."

OK. OK. I get it. I hear what she is saying. But here's the twist. Francine is a high-level person in a toxic and destructive personality cult. During those sick and perverted "downloading/joining" videos we recently profiled, Francine was frequently shown in the audience smiling and approving of this abuse where Lenora Kay Spezzano kept telling the victim to "surrender." And she belongs to a cult that demonizes the ideas of independent and critical thought as "astral attacks" or "anal lies." In fact, the concept of being an independent and free human who can scratch where it itches and declare the Emperor (Charles Lee Spezzano) has no clothes is verboten in SALPOV. Those who do are really working out their rebellion toward God, don'tcha know?

The only thing this cult is about is the Spezzano bank account. Would she really want her children to be sucked into this scam? One day her kids are going to figure what kind of cult Mom belongs to, and then what? How is that going to work? They watch what we do, not what we say.

It always saddens me to see seemingly intelligent people being manipulated and drained of their finances and time because in their pain and vulnerability they are merely seeking an alternative to our crazy system. Predators like the Spezzanos are out there waiting to take advantage of y'all. 

So, instead of getting depressed about this, let's dance! I haven't linked to the SALPOV theme song in awhile--

It's all about the money--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JAJVAGC9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JAJVAGC9M)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 31, 2015, 12:17:10 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision
 
Part 1:


Offered below is a list of videos available online concerning the cult known as Psychology of Vision. In no particular order, I have provided the links with the source of videos. I have also added summations using the most objectivity I can muster.

APTN
http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)
This video comes and goes in terms of being available online, but it does have some informative text even without the visuals. The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network program APTN Investigates had a segment called "Plastic Healers" by Rob Smith. The program aired in early Nov. 2013. The piece presents a journalistic look at two cults active on Haida Gwaii: Erick Gonzalez, and, Psychology of Vision.

Lency Spezzano
https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)
These 33 videos include several "downloading/joining" sessions, testimonials, Skype advertisements, archival footage from 2001, and some personal vignettes such as her tour of (in her phrase) her "exclusive" condo at Turtle Bay, Hawaii. The "downloading/joining" videos have been reviewed, starting at this link: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655)

Chuck Spezzano
https://www.youtube.com/user/chuckspezzano1/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/chuckspezzano1/videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76)
The first link includes 40 videos of Spezzano giving lectures on various topics to a stationary camera. Most of them have been commercially packaged and as a rule they include the paintings of POV follower Spar Street in the background. The second link leads to a single video, "The Year 2010," where Spezzano makes predictions.

Psychology of Vision
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcRwg93NLWTFrgnXJb26LvA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcRwg93NLWTFrgnXJb26LvA)
Presentation of a single video, "India Apprenticeship at Bethsaida Hermitage Resort" from 2007. No narration is provided, only music.

Next Evolution 2009
https://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos)
Six videos mostly produced by Louisa Wu, four of them promoting a joint workshop in 2009 in Los Angeles with the Spezzanos and Guru Singh.  Oneness and the 2012 phenomenon are among the topics. Guru Singh is pictured with Oneness University in the Chuck Spezzano segment. Quite unusual in two regards. First, the Spezzanos are collaborating with another headliner, and second, the event takes place on the US mainland. Also includes a testimonial by a well known New Age guru to celebrities, Habib Sadeghi. An abridged 2007 POV promotional piece includes appearances by Susan How, Sue Allen, Jeff Allen, and Spar Street. The full version will appear below under the Inner Vision collection.

ThinkTech Hawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE)
Michael and Xiao Fang North are interviewed by Dr. Keli'i Akina in this 50-minute piece as they discuss the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute and relations with China.

Stefan Götz
https://vimeo.com/user5032547/videos/page:2/sort:date (https://vimeo.com/user5032547/videos/page:2/sort:date)
Götz interviews Chuck Spezzano in a 4-part series (combined they total one hour), "Chuck Spezzano & The Leadership Revolution," which seems to have been filmed about 2011. Spezzano uses his "anal-lies" term when discussing the "split mind" and stresses competition is fear-based and independence is negative. After a few lewd jokes and several judgemental pronouncements, Spezzano tells us it is wrong to judge. Although Götz is a friendly interviewer, he still asks several good follow up questions, which appear to put Spezzano in a defensive mood as his voice and mannerisms are more animated and shrill than usual.

World Voices
https://vimeo.com/32186185 (https://vimeo.com/32186185)
https://vimeo.com/84539619 (https://vimeo.com/84539619)
The first link is a short Skype presentation promoting the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute. The text introduction includes the often repeated error that Spezzano is a "psychologist." The second link features Spezzano's 30-minute acceptance speech in 2012 when he was awarded with the "Hero of Forgiveness" title. Among other things, he reveals that the phrase "Friends Helping Friends" came from "The Voice." He also addresses aboriginal issues mainly using Haida Gwaii as an example, and stresses how victims of white colonization, as well as women who have been raped, need to forgive those who committed these crimes against them. The concept of seeking legal justice is not addressed.

Malcolm Smith
https://vimeo.com/user1739027 (https://vimeo.com/user1739027)
Produced around 2009, eight minutes long, entitled "Experiences with Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision," and includes praise for Spezzano's seminars from Smith himself plus five other people. One participant calls Lency "a window to God." Smith is a naturopathic physician in Portland, Oregon, USA. One of the tags on this video is "oneness university."

Melissa Meyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbdty7KZg0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbdty7KZg0)
Melissa Meyer's two or three APTN "First Talk" appearances promoting POV appear to have been deleted from Youtube within the last year.

Janie Ticehurst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be)
Chuck Spezzano's 2010 "Self Health" Youtube was deleted over a year ago. This was the one where he said, "You can't have health problems unless you feel guilty about something, and then at an even deeper level you can't have a health problem unless you're getting revenge on someone."

Master Sha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w)
Dr. and Master Sha gives a "soul healing" for Marianne Vermilyea, a former Canadian POV trainer and current staff member for POV, to counter her macular degeneration. Five minutes, 2013.

Elsbeth Maurer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_Toft56Ng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_Toft56Ng)
"I'm sensitive to energy, so I can feel it in crystals, I can feel it in nature ..." so says Chuck Spezzano as he supplies a commercial endorsement for Maurer's "Lovy-Heart" merchandise in this 2013 three-minute video. Produced in Switzerland.

Inner Vision
https://www.youtube.com/user/innervision222/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/innervision222/videos)
Matthew Blythe has uploaded eight videos, and six of them could possibly be classified as New Age artistic expression. The remaining two are POV promotional pieces, both created by Sutherland Productions in 2007. "Chuck and Lency Spezzano - Psychology of Vision - Trailer" is eleven minutes long. Includes appearances by Susan How, Sue Allen, Jeff Allen, Peter Shapiro, and Spar Street. An abridged version of this appeared in the Next Evolution 2009 entry above. In one part we hear Lency say "joining sessions" are now being called "Oneness sessions." The second POV promo piece, entitled "How to Have a Successful Relationship," is a 4-minute commercial for a DVD for sale. Testimonials include a statement from Jeff Allen.

Susanne Ernst
https://www.youtube.com/user/POVDACH/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/POVDACH/videos)
These are two short videos promoting POV events in Central Europe in 2012. The first has POV trainers Susanne Ernst and Mathias Keller speaking directly to the camera. The second video, which is a bit longer, contains several testimonials, including from Alexandra Angermann, Rebecca Wildi, Mathias Keller, and Susanne Ernst. In German. 

Torsten Konrad
https://www.youtube.com/user/TorstenKonrad/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TorstenKonrad/videos)
Most of the videos from this German POV trainer reflect his interest in body performance and artistic expression. However, about a half dozen of these are very static and non-creative talking head presentations where Torsten is apparently promoting a POV event or concept. I say "apparently" since my grasp of the German language is woefully minimal. The one video here I can identify that combines POV with an artistic interpretation is the 2015 "You Never Know" which is described as "Life From A Joining Session."   

Lotta Gaber
https://www.youtube.com/user/Lottchen1705/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/Lottchen1705/videos)
Gaber interviews Chuck Spezzano in this almost 5-minute video from earlier this year. A POV follower, Gaber does not subject Spezzano to any hard questions. He promotes a book he wrote about sex that has recently been translated into Swedish. In the process he mentions how metaphors and hypnosis work together. When this video was originally released it used the music of Israel "Iz" Kamakawiwo'ole but then within a few days the soundtrack was changed to something more generic.

Lauretta Hickman
https://www.youtube.com/user/LaurettaHickman/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LaurettaHickman/videos)
Hickman, a life coach and Spezzano student, has over 40 videos online. Six of these concern POV, uploaded six years ago. In all six, Hickman is using the POV triangle as her source as she presents a lecture in German.

Django Hediger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZgYOwAxlgI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZgYOwAxlgI)
"Living Your Inner Gifts" or "Deine Gaben leben" is an 18-minute talking head presentation where Mr. Spezzano speaks in English, and Torsten Konrad translates into German. Both gentlemen are in different locations so the screenshot toggles back and forth in what seems to be a Skype generated production. Designed to promote a workshop scheduled for April 2012.

Powerful Events
https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulEvents/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulEvents/videos)
Consists of nine videos, most of them by Django Hediger as he markets POV. Some of these had formerly been enhanced by the song "Our Hearts Have Been Misplaced in a Secret Location" but for a number of reasons it felt true to the group that created and performed this piece, Uniform Motion, to distance their song from this cult. So the music has been stripped. Videos include a 9-minute Skype lecture from Chuck Spezzano on "Acceptance" (2014), where he appears to be ill. Jeff and Sue Allen promote their 2014 Spain 5 day workshop via Skype in a 5 and half minute talk which includes shots of the expensive looking accomodations. In "Herbsttour 2013," Spezzano begins by describing how his annual visits to Central Europe are basically book selling tours. He also uses his stock tale about hearing "The Voice." In the eight-minute "Die Kraft der Liebe" Skype presentation, Spezzano has Torsten Konrad sitting right behind him, providing the German translation in audio in this talk about love and "soul patterns." The conclusion of this last video is one of Spezzano's more energetic performances.

Psychology of Vision - Europa
https://www.youtube.com/user/psychologyofvision1/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/psychologyofvision1/videos)
Two videos, both of them over five minutes long, of Chuck Spezzano self-promoting his Central European tour. These were two more videos where the music of the group Uniform Motion was stripped out due to their request not to be associated with POV. In "Die Spiegel deiner Seele" (2015), Spezzano says he has been a "therapist" for 42 years and glowingly quotes "the Native American Sun Bear." In "Europatour September 2014 - Emotionale Reife," Spezzano tells us the world is filled with "intra-psychic pollution" by ignorant and unenlightened people who do not understand their own emotions.

Frankfurter Ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ)
On their webpage, the Frankfurter Ring repeats the frequently stated error that promotes Chuck Spezzano to the status of "psychologist." This particular video is a three minute promotion for Spezzano's appearance in Burg Rothenfels in 2014. One testimonial is included. At one point a group of people circling an evening campfire while one of them beats on what appears to be some kind of non-European aboriginal drum is portrayed.   

More to come on Part 2 ...

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on March 31, 2015, 02:07:24 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision
 
Part 2:


povevents
https://www.youtube.com/user/povevents/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/povevents/videos)
In a single short piece called "Psychology of Vision - how it works," POV attendees in the UK provide testimonials, including from Nick Williams. Uploaded in 2011. The povevents website, designed primarily to promote the Spezzanos in the UK, has been down since mid-December 2014.

Alternatives St. James's Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLE-lASWjEc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLE-lASWjEc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ss92C3H4-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ss92C3H4-E)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561)
The first link attaches to a short sample of Lency Spezzano, where she tells us she worked with the deaf in Arizona prior to her move to Hawaii and reveals that she suffered from a burnout and distancing-the-inner self phase commonly experienced by most who work in social services. The second link is a sliver of Chuck Spezzano explaining why he believes being independent is a negative thing. Apparently both of these links were posted without the Spezzano's involvement. The third link attaches to a DVD that is not available via Internet, but I have a copy and since it was presented at this same venue, I felt linking to my review of it was appropriate here. In this third link Spezzano talks about First Nations and performs a Deeksha Blessing. All of these took place during the time the Spezzanos were involved with Oneness University.

Jeff Allen
https://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreydallen1231/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreydallen1231/videos)
https://vimeo.com/user3037913 (https://vimeo.com/user3037913)
https://vimeo.com/user17007191 (https://vimeo.com/user17007191)

The first link consists of ten videos, seven of these deal with Jeff's work in Africa, the remaining trio are Jeff and Sue Allen promoting their POV workshops.

The second link leads to 60 POV videos with presentations by Julie Wookey, Jeff Allen, Chuck Spezzano, Lency Spezzano, chiefly related to the Steps to Leadership POV program. Several videos are in German. The Allen/Wookey lectures are more religious in tone than the Spezzano talks, and combined give an overall view of the complicated POV matrix of belief. These are presented as doctrine rather than theory. The comment section has been disabled. Some of the more noteworthy videos--

10, Basic Joining: An early example of "joining" as explained by Lency Spezzano. Chuck sits behind her, next to the POV triangle as she lectures to an all-female audience, probably in Canada since trainers Joanne Roberts and Susan How are present. The action starts at 10:40. Lency approaches a couple women and rubs their thighs while staring at them. Another member of the audience has two people working on her, with Roberts coming from behind and rubbing her breasts. At the very end we see Chuck Spezzano performing a "joining" as well.

19 - Accountability and Problem Solving - Part 2: Julie Wookey and Jeff Allen use a POV modified form of Tarot ("process cards") by employing special cards. "This is not random, this is a process," says Allen, although he does not elaborate.

24 Happiness and Purpose: Jeff Allen tells us we have all been sent to Earth by design for a purpose that we need to discover. He quotes heavily from the Bible.

27 Lency Joining with watermark: Lency Spezzano giving a presentation on "joining," Oneness, guilt, and how our world is not real. Some quotes worth highlighting:

Quote
"Once your chakras are open you become a grace receptor." "Aboriginal people, native people of the Americas, love Psychology of Vision. I've heard so many times that it is the only healing art that really works for them because it fits so well with their own healing practices and their own world view. It's the world view of Oneness." "Who do I think I am that I would abandon God? That's evil."

1 Introduction to Steps to Leadership and Psychology of Vision: Introduction by the Spezzanos, Jeff Allen, Julie Wookey. Lency Spezzano tells us POV has produced several mystics.

10 Awakening by Lency Spezzano: This video was reviewed at length at this link: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37537;topicseen#msg37537 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37537;topicseen#msg37537)

Archive Mod 30 Graduation: The Spezzanos officiate. Chuck Spezzano says, "There's no problem you have that isn't some form of self-attack."

Archive Mod 19 Accountability and Problem Solving: A presentation by the Spezzanos. Chuck Spezzano says he has the ability to have a choice whether or not he can catch the flu or a cold. He also promotes the idea that misfortune could be the result of bad things from past lifetimes. The POV version of Tarot cards are demonstrated.

The third link leads to a couple Allen/Wookey promotional videos.

Nick Williams
https://www.youtube.com/user/nickwilliams101/videos?spfreload=1 (https://www.youtube.com/user/nickwilliams101/videos?spfreload=1)
UK life/business coach and former POV student Williams has uploaded many videos, including interviews with Chuck Spezzano, Julie Wookey, and Jeff Allen. In an interview with Chuck Spezzano (uploaded May 15, 2011) we are given some of Spezzano's biography as well as his belief that he is guided by and a messenger for Divine forces.

Pam Carruthers
https://www.youtube.com/user/pamelac89/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/pamelac89/videos)
Spiritual coach, astrologer, and former POV trainer Carruthers has a few videos promoting the Steps to Leadership. Chuck Spezzano is referenced several times in "Healing Your Birth Story" and probably in her other videos since he is also frequently mentioned in passing on her website as her mentor.

Kenneth Bok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTyortCWbcI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTyortCWbcI)
Bok interviews Arielle Essex, a POV follower who erroneously calls Chuck Spezzano a "clinical psychologist," which is something of a double error, actually. Interestingly, Bok's first response to POV is that it sounds to him like a form of behavior modification.

Alison Banks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uDoqsjFLtY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uDoqsjFLtY)
A brief advertisement for Banks' Parenting Tutor project in 2012. She was a POV trainer at the time.

Jane Kirby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzgZ1uG64Mg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzgZ1uG64Mg)
In the course of promoting the Steps to Leadership program to an audience in India, Jane describes her history with Psychology of Vision.

Gary Watkins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9afP_Lgbo0&list=FLiEBScZlG6liMa31geuuglw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9afP_Lgbo0&list=FLiEBScZlG6liMa31geuuglw)
Jeff Allen speaks about "Why are relationships so difficult." Uploaded 2014, five minutes.

stcg23
https://www.youtube.com/user/stcg23/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/stcg23/videos)
Three videos centering on Japanese POV trainer Hideaki Kurihara. In the short presentation "The Story of Tarzan," Kuirhara speaks in English while POV trainer Ian Y. Lai from Taiwan translates.

ASK Hong Kong
https://www.youtube.com/user/hkpov/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/hkpov/videos)
There are over 275 videos in this group, most of them beyond my language skills. Among the POV trainers I recognize are Franklin Fan, Kelvin Ho, and Peter Lo. There are ten videos guest starring Francine Girard, which have been reviewed at this link: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39759#msg39759  (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39759#msg39759)

ASKVisions
https://www.youtube.com/user/ASKVisions/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/ASKVisions/videos)
A set of fifty videos, including with POV trainers Franklin Fan, Peter Lo, Camille Liu, Twiggy Lam, and Kelvin Ho. The Spezzanos appear in one short video promoting a 2012 workshop in Thailand.

GrowthVision
https://www.youtube.com/user/growthvision/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/growthvision/videos)
Japanese POV trainer Hiromi Kurihara promotes the cult in Singapore, with six additional short video testimonials from participants.

Vision Dynamnics Institute
https://www.youtube.com/user/vdi1960/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/vdi1960/videos)
"The direction to find Heaven is always through your partner," says Chuck Spezzano in his short promotional video. Additionally there are five presentation videos from VDI in Japanese, and three testimonials in English.

cnyangvideo
https://www.youtube.com/user/cnyangvideo/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/cnyangvideo/videos)
One of these videos shows Lency Spezzano receiving a birthday cake in Taiwan in 2008 and then giving instructions to a woman who appears to be POV trainer Barb Jones amid the hoopla.

azabueast
https://www.youtube.com/user/azabueast/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/azabueast/videos)
Among these mostly personal videos are some very brief scenes of Chuck Spezzano and Hiromi Kurihara in Taiwan, 2007. Spezzano is wearing a suit and tie.

?????
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_ztZoOKGPyqET4_-X4YXw/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_ztZoOKGPyqET4_-X4YXw/videos)
Three videos uploaded 2015 showing Chuck Spezzano at work in a seminar, a promotional video from Spezzano, and a testimonial. All set in Japan.

????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXcrEhnK_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXcrEhnK_o)
"Psychology of Vision International Training In Japan with Hideaki & Hiromi," five minute promotional video, 2015.

Timothy Shih
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3Br_Km3G0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3Br_Km3G0)
A four minute promotional piece for POV Asia, 2012.

Spar Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo)
"A short video montage of some of fine artist Spar Street's more well-known collectors, an extraordinary group of individuals." From 2008. This one is remarkable for who we don't see among the luminaries.

Jordan Kao
https://www.youtube.com/user/jordankao1960/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/jordankao1960/videos)
Jordan, a POV trainer from Asia, has uploaded seven videos, mostly connected with POV. One of them is a short piece filmed in the summer of 2014 on Vancouver Island entitled "Chuck Spezzano & Lency Spezzano blessing of the Association of Kaohsiung POV."  The Spezzanos seem a bit off their game. I have my own views on what is going on here, but I'll save that for another day. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 31, 2015, 05:38:50 pm
Thank you for doing all this work Sandy, this will immensely help researchers of POV.

This 10 Basic Joining video is really hard to watch. https://vimeo.com/121790500 (https://vimeo.com/121790500) The worst part is towards the end, when Lency and trainers basically feel a woman up. Lency crouches down close to the women, crowds them, while doing her predatory stare. Lency rubs the woman's legs pretty much up to crotch level. The trainers join in on. Chuck also does the close up predatory stare, so this group of women victims are all physically blocked off, they can't move, they are being stared at and groped. Yuck.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 31, 2015, 05:39:49 pm
Some photo clips from the video
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: AClockworkWhite on March 31, 2015, 06:05:07 pm
^OMG WTF??? That is horrid.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on March 31, 2015, 06:45:42 pm
^OMG WTF??? That is horrid.

Yep, exactly. People, mostly women, pay to go to these seminars where they are mind numbingly lectured on bogus guilt producing Nuage b.s., bathed in sappy Nuage music that makes them cry, then stared at, groped, and rubbed invasively. People hyperventilate, have tremors, feel suicidal. And pay for more.

POV claims they are helping create a First Nations cultural renaissance. In truth, they are white colonizers ripping FN people off once again.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on March 31, 2015, 06:55:26 pm
^OMG WTF??? That is horrid.

Yep, exactly. People, mostly women, pay to go to these seminars where they are mind numbingly lectured on bogus guilt producing Nuage b.s., bathed in sappy Nuage music that makes them cry, then stared at, groped, and rubbed invasively. People hyperventilate, have tremors, feel suicidal. And pay for more.

POV claims they are helping create a First Nations cultural renaissance. In truth, they are white colonizers ripping FN people off once again.

Yes, that is very creepy.  It is obvious that this video was taped maybe 20-30 years ago (Lency and Chuck are both thin and I used to wear those baggy slacks myself), but they are still preaching the same "A Course in Miracles" dogma as today ("There is only one of us here.  We are all of the same mind" type of stuff).  It seems nothing ever changes with them, unless it is their waistlines.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 09, 2015, 02:31:08 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 1

Frankfurter Ring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab99BMoF0Qk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab99BMoF0Qk)
A static talking head shot of Chuck Spezzano standing in front of the POV triangle as he promotes his appearance for the annual Burg Rothenfels event, which costs about $666 dollars American. 2 minutes, camera and sound by Django Hediger. This one is absent any music.

VisionWorks for Life
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-25E-evIMpBLk8oGkZxUVg/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-25E-evIMpBLk8oGkZxUVg/videos)
As Jeff Allen appears to be the heir apparent in the UK and perhaps all of Europe as POV transitions into a splatter of spinoffs, he has within the last few months started his own Youtube channel for VisionWorks for Life.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 11, 2015, 06:40:58 am
Here's an email message from the followers of Charles Lee Spezzano to those in Canada who still have money in their savings account or public funds to pay for their trip so they can go shopping in Vancouver! I have intercepted with a few comments.

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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015
From: canada@pov-int.com
To: [Yeah, right. Like I'm going to reveal this]
Subject: Chuck Spezzano's 2015 June 5 Day Seminar - Register Now to SAVE $200 USD

What Happy People Know 5 day seminar with Chuck Spezzano in Vancouver June 6 - 10, 2015

"Welcome love into your problems. Welcome love into your relationships and into your relationship with yourself. Love always comes when invited and love heals all."

A Five Day Workshop with Chuck Spezzano
An exceptional opportunity 
Register by May 8 to save $200 USD
 
This is a chance to experience the transformational power of a 5-Day Psychology of Vision seminar with its co-founder, Chuck Spezzano.

Chuck Spezzano's only seminar in Canada this year!

The "only seminar in Canada this year!" This means the annual brainwashing session at Tigh-Na-Mara Seaside Spa Resort in Parksville on Vancouver Island will not be taking place in 2015. The absence of this periodic event is significant. The Spezzanos are winding down, and are  letting go of Canada in the process. [And here Sandy S. clears his throat in a stagey manner] This might be the last opportunity for the RCMP to have a discussion with Charles Lee Spezzano on Canadian soil. Journalists too. [And here Sandy S. clears his throat in a stagey manner a second time just for dramatic emphasis].

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WHAT HAPPY PEOPLE KNOW
To be happy is to know your own emotions, and to live from your authentic nature. This emotional maturity makes you open, attractive, and true.

The first step to becoming happy is to learn about emotions, what they are and how to handle them. Since emotions are a choice and not determined by something outside of you, you can learn to recognize and release them.

Spezzano's lewd jokes aside, it is my understanding he also has been known to throw tantrums to a bullying degree, which has prevented at least one person formerly associated with him from coming forward to testify in public. I'll happily supply the information to any law enforcement or journalism professional who wants to know the juicy details.

The premise that "emotions are a choice and not determined by something outside of you" is open to debate. Since Spezzano has never submitted anything to a scholarly journal, he can rest fat and smug in his own little kingdom without critical review. His statement really puts a lot of pressure on the client and increases the guilt factor, a tried and true POV cult manipulation device. 

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Awareness and the desire to begin the healing process is what is needed. Rightly used, the energy of your emotions transforms into positive feelings used to live your purpose and contribute to life. Becoming more centered, you add to your self-value and gain greater love and fulfillment.

Excuse me while I clear my throat-- haarumphbullshit!

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This seminar will focus on the principles of emotional maturity developed by Chuck Spezzano. Chuck's workshops offer a deep experiential learning opportunity in a supportive environment. His seminars are famous for their depth and humour and the connection that occurs when everyone's heart is open.


Emotional maturity? Charles Lee Spezzano is famous for his dirty jokes, which are now sort of out of date in a Hugh Hefner way. "Cunt-rol"? "Anal-lies"? Give me a break.

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Join us to discover "What Happy People Know".  REGISTER NOW

The Fast Track with Chuck
Are We One?
Are We One?

The above snippet has a link to Spezzano's Youtube, "Are We One?" where he touts the idea of "Oneness," cites quantum physics directly, and displays his Jungian and Oneness University influence indirectly. The employment of quantum physics to sell his nonsense brings to mind the following link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszxeoa94g0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszxeoa94g0)

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Chuck Spezzano PhD is a man with a vision. For over 40 years he has traveled the world empowering people to choose love over fear. His work is a path of the heart, which combines his many years of experience as a relationship coach, spiritual teacher and practical mystic. Chuck co-founded The Psychology of Vision model with his wife Lency Spezzano. It is a healing model that is committed to helping people lead happy lives.

A "practical mystic"? What the heck is that? Remember, Psychology of Vision is group that has promoted Oneness University Deeksha blessings, downloading Heaven's grace and channeling it, being sensitive to the energy of crystals, past life regression, producing mystics, using empath powers, predicting the future, manifesting miracles, changing the weather through mind power, blaming the victim for diseases-birth defects-misfortunes, and using cards for fortune telling. In short, these people are not scientists or professionals in the area of therapy or healing. Spezzano's PhD in "Professional Psychology" is not medical and is unaccredited by the APA. In fact, the Spezzanos were fined by Hawaii in 2004 for pretending to be professionals. 
   
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A 5 day workshop with Chuck will transcend years of individual therapy through the power of the group mind. It is an invaluable process that brings renewed hope, vitality and lasting change.

Group mind!?! Do you mean like having people quake and quiver and being either hypnotized or sexually groped like they were in the video examples we just recently posted? Do you mean like having people humiliated in public in an uncontrolled setting by an unlicensed and unregulated little tin God who charges over $1100 an hour for a personal consultation? Do you mean like the way Babs Stevens was manipulated like a ventriloquist dummy in Lenora's Youtube? In POV a "group mind" is defined as surrendering and submitting to the Spezzano mind. The only contribution of yours that matters is the one to their bank account.
 
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Visit Chuck and Lency Spezzano's website: www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com 

5 Day Workshop
June 6 - 10, 2015
 

Full Price $825 USD + tax

If you have this kind of money to throw away and you feel vulnerable, please, please, don't waste it on this clown. Go. To. A. Professional. The Spezzanos are not qualified to do what they do, and they provide no follow up unless you are willing to dish out more bucks. Psychology of Vision is a scam and a personality cult. 

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SAVE $200 USD 
Tuition is $625 USD + GST
When you register by May 8

with a deposit of $300 USD + tax

This is the only seminar in Canada & North America this year.


Location: Executive Hotel, 4201 Lougheed Hwy, Burnaby, BC           
www.executivehotels.net/burnaby

For information contact canada@pov-int.com
or Call Marianne 604.526.4521
or Myrna 604-669-7400 taylor.myrna@gmail.com

Tuition for Couples, Seniors, Students, 100 Day Graduates
 and First Nations go to www.povcanada.com or contact us.

If you have to sign a waiver before attending, turn around and run away. Even if you lose hundreds of dollars in the process, not attending will be mentally healthier for you. Psychology of Vision is a toxic cult.  It's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd155v8Z5U)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on April 14, 2015, 03:53:50 pm
Torsten Konrad, a POV trainer level 1 in Germany, is now doing coaching webinars for gays, lesbians, and bisexuals.

http://www.pov-int.eu/termine/?ee=838 (http://www.pov-int.eu/termine/?ee=838)

Google translation:

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To be true to themselves and unusual life and approaches and to advocate on the other hand, an important commitment in the encounter with social customs of the mainstream. In this way, but can also often pass unnoticed traits excessive independence, hardness of heart and rebellion in our lives.

 From inner conviction to develop new lifestyles and values ??and definitions
To question conventions are the same as the cultivation of male and
feminine qualities about gender roles addition, important contributions to the LSB & T community
to overall social development.

This willingness, despite strong societal pressure and many unpleasant effects to express the inner truth, is heroic!
These webinars offer LSB & T to support the possibility of their career, relationship and regular family development by means of the dynamic and effective methods of Psychology of Vision.

This is another example of affinity fraud, just like that done to First Nations. Market to a targeted population. Persuade and manipulate people to believe the toxic precepts of POV. Teach people to blame themselves for everything, including for societal ills and oppression.

Previous posts including him: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39556#msg39556 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39556#msg39556)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39845#msg39845 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39845#msg39845)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 20, 2015, 12:29:44 am
The Spin on "The Spin"

In what is quite possibly the most bizarre of the videos issued by Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) is one that is an example of "downloading/joining" entitled "Greater Intimacy with God." Here is a link to my NAFPS review of this work which in turn includes a link to the actual video--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39662#msg39662 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39662#msg39662)

We SALPOV watchers refer to this one as "the Spin" and cannot even begin to guess what the heck is going on here, except that we feel we are seeing a classic case of hypnosis being employed under the guise of delivering Heaven's grace. This "downloading/joining" is just one of the fabulous services provided by SALPOV for a very large fee. Becoming enlightened is a rather expensive process with the Spezzanos. 

Anyway, quite a long time ago someone asked Lenora what The Spin was all about in the Youtube comment section. Mrs. Spezzano ignored the question, but Sharilyn Stalling, who "specializes in soul retrieval, exorcism, curse removal, vision interpretation and is a master of reading the Akashic Records" jumped in and supplied an answer.

Here is Sharilyn's website--

http://www.thegiftof.com/ (http://www.thegiftof.com/)

Someone goes through and routinely prunes out any critical comments on Lenora's Youtubes in a very passive/aggressive way (which is why, among other reasons, I have never bothered to contribute there), and for some reason the rather tame and polite question regarding The Spin was censored (the question simply went something like, "What is the spinning all about?"), but Sharilyn's answer to the question was kept--

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Sharilyn Stalling 1 year ago
Dear Lenzy, What a privilege to see you in action channeling the power of unconditional Divine Love! It does take enormous courage to take on the deep emotional pain of another human being. I do Akashic Record healing which means I relive the past events wherein pain is stuck; I am the person of the past in all the emotional anguish. What I witness here is you doing this work in a uniquely powerful swift manner. The spin you did I have done similarly when I am pulling out entangled strands of emotional pain. How to explain this to someone who is stuck in ancient beliefs and ancient pain is not possible unless he experiences it for himself. Thank you for your dedication and love connectedness that you share so freely. Blessings on you and all that you do.

So this sat for a long time. But within the last week Lenora has supplied an answer!

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Lency Spezzano 6 days ago
+Sharilyn Stalling Thanks so much, Sharilyn. I have received a lot of attack on the internet for being myself and doing the work I do. I appreciate you understanding that spin - it doesn't happen often, but I trust it. Thanks again for the encouragement.

Why Lenora waited so long to address this is a mystery. But now we know she endorses the definition of The Spin as explained by Sharilyn, and, we see Lenora is not afraid to play the martyr card. There's that use of the "attack" word again, revealing her belief in dualism and an "us vs. them" mentality. My question on whether or not she is delusional or cynical remains, but either way she demonstrates what a crazy and toxic cult SALPOV really is. Embracing the Stalling explanation and belief system is of course not bad in itself, but after doing so Lenora cannot go on and pretend to be a professional in any way in the field of psychology, as she did in her response to the Ripoff Report:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37020;topicseen#msg37020 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37020;topicseen#msg37020)

To cite "religious freedom" as a protection for SALPOV in the face of us critics is in error. This is a registered for-profit corporation, not a religion. SALPOV was created as a money-making venture. SALPOV is a business. And the business of business is to make money. Those of you on Haida Gwaii take note when Babs Stevens and her toadies use this freedom of religion argument to defend their highly questionable actions and subservience to the Spezzanos rather than their own constituents. My friends on Haida Gwaii have been culturally, socially, economically, and politically sold out by those willing to hand over their power and influence to a couple of rich Americans. Follow the money, folks. The coin of the realm is the true God in SALPOV. If Haida Gwaii really wants the "cultural renaissance" Lenora talks about, the first step is to kick out all traces of SALPOV.

If you are in a vulnerable state of mind right now and are considering signing up for a course in SALPOV or Steps to Leadership, my advice is turn around and run for your life. For your life. There is more to existence than feeding the Spezzano or Allen bank account.

But I am glad to see Lenora finally addressing one of our long standing questions. Maybe she'll answer some of our other queries, starting with this list (and we have many more unanswered problems since this list was created)--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38683#msg38683 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38683#msg38683)

And for your amusement here is a link to the Card of the Day on Martyrs:

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=martyr (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=martyr)

Here is a link to the Card of the Day on Passive-Aggression:

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/05/healing-passive-aggression.html?q=passive (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2014/05/healing-passive-aggression.html?q=passive)

Here is a link to the Card of the Day on Dualism:

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=dualism (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/search?q=dualism)

Y'know, it is pretty bad when even the founders of a personality cult cannot remember the basics of their dogma and by their actions go against their own rules. I'd say that is living in denial.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on April 27, 2015, 10:34:27 pm
i find it interesting that lency spezzaon says she's attacked on the internet for being herself ??  i don't think she reall knows who herself is, and from what i'm reading about them her and her husband, they;'re running a cult ,conning to deliver all this quick fix healing in 5 days that'll take years with a real licensed psychologist.
 it isn\t an attack lency, it's public education about a harmful cult that targeted first nations healing n=money and what makes you people so sickening is that you targeted a group that has been traumatized so bad in residential school and you aren't bothered by this, you still think you're doing good ,all you're doing is chasing after money for yourselves, can you honestly post an answer about the value for dollar about how mwny residential school survivors and how much your registered business called psychology of vision and your cult outpost group called ngystle spent on themselves compared to how many actual residential school survivors got, i know the answer, i want to hear what you have to say
this is just a small amount that was scammed under the guise of healing, that screwed up video of you with babs stevens is a dead give away that these people are hypnotized and babs called this the most amazinf=g healing she ever got, i dare you to send this to mental health canada and ask for an evaluation and review about how this can be called healing
 lency spezzano, this is not an attack, you can safely place this in the public education department about exposing 2 scam artists chuck spezzano and is wife Lency spezzano, you can;t take any critique ,i't always an attack , if you were someone legit you would listen and try to correct what is going wrong, but, nope, you have to atack anyone that goes against what your cult teaches ,this is just one of many cult characteristics you and your cult leader husband do when critiqued or anything you see as negative is brought up about the Pov cult.
 many first nations villages in BC are onto you two now.
 it'll be difficult for you to show yor faces anywhere now, the word is out your nothing but a cult , the government funders know how to look at the airy fairy grant applications for :healing" now, and especially when Pov is mentioned ,the red flag gets raised right to the top ,
babd councils that got sucked into your bs are being scrutinized and any Pov people placed in positions of authority where they're at you bidding, like babs stevens are all watched and people know this is not healing , i'm glad to hear that Pov is not allowed into some indian villages now, it will be great when all villages don't allow you to bring harm to people that have been already traumatized,
an attack this isn't, it's the real truth about chuck & lency spezzano is coming out ,people are speaking freely about you 2 and the damage you've done to first nations culture, you sure caused a big mess and it's going to get cleaned up, and all with your indoctrination and dogma, you di=on't belong on any indian reserves, all you're doing is finishing off what the original colonizers started, and that is not welcome on any reserve
remember....
                                 THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF US HERE.
http://www.ahf.ca/funded-projects/british-columbia/ngystle-society
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on April 27, 2015, 10:52:21 pm
i find it interesting that lency spezzaon says she's attacked on the internet for being herself ??  i don't think she reall knows who herself is, and from what i'm reading about them her and her husband, they;'re running a cult ,conning to deliver all this quick fix healing in 5 days that'll take years with a real licensed psychologist.
 it isn\t an attack lency, it's public education about a harmful cult that targeted first nations healing n=money and what makes you people so sickening is that you targeted a group that has been traumatized so bad in residential school and you aren't bothered by this, you still think you're doing good ,all you're doing is chasing after money for yourselves, can you honestly post an answer about the value for dollar about how mwny residential school survivors and how much your registered business called psychology of vision and your cult outpost group called ngystle spent on themselves compared to how many actual residential school survivors got, i know the answer, i want to hear what you have to say
this is just a small amount that was scammed under the guise of healing, that screwed up video of you with babs stevens is a dead give away that these people are hypnotized and babs called this the most amazinf=g healing she ever got, i dare you to send this to mental health canada and ask for an evaluation and review about how this can be called healing
 lency spezzano, this is not an attack, you can safely place this in the public education department about exposing 2 scam artists chuck spezzano and is wife Lency spezzano, you can;t take any critique ,i't always an attack , if you were someone legit you would listen and try to correct what is going wrong, but, nope, you have to atack anyone that goes against what your cult teaches ,this is just one of many cult characteristics you and your cult leader husband do when critiqued or anything you see as negative is brought up about the Pov cult.
 many first nations villages in BC are onto you two now.
 it'll be difficult for you to show yor faces anywhere now, the word is out your nothing but a cult , the government funders know how to look at the airy fairy grant applications for :healing" now, and especially when Pov is mentioned ,the red flag gets raised right to the top ,
babd councils that got sucked into your bs are being scrutinized and any Pov people placed in positions of authority where they're at you bidding, like babs stevens are all watched and people know this is not healing , i'm glad to hear that Pov is not allowed into some indian villages now, it will be great when all villages don't allow you to bring harm to people that have been already traumatized,
an attack this isn't, it's the real truth about chuck & lency spezzano is coming out ,people are speaking freely about you 2 and the damage you've done to first nations culture, you sure caused a big mess and it's going to get cleaned up, and all with your indoctrination and dogma, you di=on't belong on any indian reserves, all you're doing is finishing off what the original colonizers started, and that is not welcome on any reserve
remember....
                                 THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF US HERE.
http://www.ahf.ca/funded-projects/british-columbia/ngystle-society
here is a video showing babs stevens getting knocked right out of her own reality, taken over by lency spezzano,
this is the one wher they say it looks like babs got hit on the side of her head with a 2x4 and is manipulated like a ventriloquist dummy, personally i think babs stevens was made to please lency spezzano and emulate lency, besides thinking she could start her own money making cult business, people are onto all of these pov people including the "advanced trainers" recruiters, as they say.... the gig is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY
 they call this true healing. i wonder if Amy Janeck from the college of registered psychologists saw this and call this
and call it real healing ?? actually i would like ti=o hear what she says about this ?
 i know she said that chuck spezzano was never a licensed to practice as a psychologist in bc or the rest of canada, yet with his tricky advertising he deceived people that he is a phd i psychology sp people will go and get brainwashed at his "workshops"
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 28, 2015, 01:05:02 am
Just as a footnote to moreinfo's post, we covered Charles Lee Spezzano's lack of professional and academic credentials at this link:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693)

The Spezzanos have managed to find a way to pose as mental health professionals (e.g., naming their for-profit corporation "Psychology of Vision" but call themselves "coaches") and rake in big bucks without having to be licensed, regulated, peer-reviewed or accountable to anyone. They seldom have to face any consequences for their actions and they have never accepted any responsibility for anything that would harm their profit margin.

But those days are coming to an end, the world is catching up to them. As 2015-2016 unfolds I highly suspect "Uncle Chuck" and Lenora will curse the day they ever tried to peddle their vaporware in North America.  The circle of government authority becoming aware of the destructive nature of this cult is widening. 

As moreinfo says, there is more than one of us here. Affinity fraud gone haywire can turn back and bite the perpetrators with the same force they were attempting to exploit. The antics of Babs Stevens clearly demonstrates this was a cult takeover attempt that has messed up Haida Gwaii something fierce.  An audit of how many public dollars were spent on her excursions to places like Hawaii and Vancouver in order to score brownie points with her cult leaders the Spezzanos and perhaps Gonzalez is way overdue. How many tens of thousands of dollars were wasted on this nonsense when it could have been used to improve the local Haida communities in real ways?

I sincerely hope this Haida Gwaii fiasco results in a word you seldom see used in Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision--

Justice. 

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 28, 2015, 02:52:07 am
This link might be corny, but many parts of it accurately deconstructs and defines Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJyfqeaKU8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJyfqeaKU8)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 02, 2015, 02:45:26 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 2


The following entry has been removed from Youtube:

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Spar Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo)
"A short video montage of some of fine artist Spar Street's more well-known collectors, an extraordinary group of individuals." From 2008. This one is remarkable for who we don't see among the luminaries.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 05, 2015, 02:01:58 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 3


The following entry has been added to Youtube:

POV Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nebZG0t6wHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nebZG0t6wHM)
"Chuck Spezzano invites you to June 2015 workshop." In this short (2:14 min.) piece, Spezzano addresses a stationary camera set up in his home while he promotes an upcoming for-profit event in Vancouver, BC.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 05, 2015, 08:22:03 pm
Charles Lee Spezzano takes credit for increasing the size of a female bustline!

In the last couple weeks I was reminded of the following passage uttered by Spezzano in his YouTube presentation "Tiger Woods by Dr. Chuck Spezzano." This was commercially recorded in late 2009 in a gallery featuring the paintings of Spar Street and was released on Youtube on April Fools Day, 2010:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aPN1y2XnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aPN1y2XnI)

Starting at the 5:47 mark--

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In a lecture in Vancouver in 1990 I had a person in the question and answer period after I had talked about this kind of aspect of temptation, he said, "Wait a second, do you mean to say that of I keep my energy toward my girlfriend, who is flat-chested, instead of this woman who has these bodacious ta-tas that in that many days or within two weeks my girlfriend is going to have bodacious ta-tas?" I said, "What is it you think about when you think about ta-tas?" He said, "Well, I think about sexiness and I think about comfort, I think about nurturing and I think about being happy." I said, "That's what your girlfriend will have. It's not necessarily the form." I said, "But I have received a letter of thanks from one of my Japanese students whose wife has gone up two bra sizes because he has brought the energy back to her."

And people dish out thousands of dollars for this wisdom.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 07, 2015, 12:38:43 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 4

POV Canada on Facebook

Chuck talks about his Webinar, Jan. 6, 2012 (6:05 min.)
https://www.facebook.com/137531806302566/videos/vb.137531806302566/10150453602127061/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/137531806302566/videos/vb.137531806302566/10150453602127061/?type=2&theater)
Spezzano promotes a webinar and reveals his hope that this form of commercial marketing will eventually replace personal appearances as he and Lenora enter their "Golden Years." He mentions the interesting differences between his territory and that of his spouse in the SALPOV merchandising area.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 16, 2015, 10:44:46 pm
A few days ago on Charles Lee Spezzano's "card of the day," the following bit of wisdom was bestowed to the seekers--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/05/transcendence-dont-fk-with-gorilla.html?q=gorilla (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/05/transcendence-dont-fk-with-gorilla.html?q=gorilla)

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TRANSCENDENCE & DON"T F**K WITH THE GORILLA

TRANSCENDENCE & DON"T F**K WITH THE GORILLA are the cards for today. TRANSCENDENCE is the ability to cut through resistance and go up to a whole new level. DON"T F**K WITH THE GORILLA means to not antagonize a person or group of potentially belligerent power and cause yourself unnecessary pain and hardship. Together they mean that you can leap forward but don't stop to be passive-aggressive and open up a world of hurt. Have a great day!!!
Posted 4 days ago by Chuck Spezzano

A couple years back, in his March 21, 2013 card, he wasn't so shy about using the F-word--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-comic-and-dont-fuck-with-gorilla.html?q=gorilla (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-comic-and-dont-fuck-with-gorilla.html?q=gorilla)

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THE COMIC and DON"T FUCK WITH THE GORILLA

THE COMIC and DON'T FUCK WITH THE GORILLA are the cards for today. The COMIC speaks of humorous situations arising while the old sign at the zoo in front of the simian cages..."DON"T FUCK WITH THE GORILLA" means don't foolishly tease or rile someone or something with the power to mess you up badly. Have a fun but prudent day!
Posted 21st March 2013 by Chuck Spezzano

Let's put aside Spezzano's infamous and unprofessional employment of dirty jokes and lewd language for now. There is something else about these two cards that intrigues me.

According to my sources, whenever Spezzano feels criticized or threatened he attempts to intimidate and bully his perceived opponent with the expression, "Don't fuck with the gorilla." So obviously he sees himself as a "potentially belligerent power" who can cause you "unnecessary pain and hardship" as well as someone "with the power to mess you up badly."

Have a fun but prudent day, fellow critics. We are dealing with a vainglorious split-mind.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: AClockworkWhite on May 19, 2015, 11:46:02 pm
Guys like him can't/won't do a dang thing or he wouldn't have said anything. He would do it just to prove a point and let the word get out on its own. And the last animal I would associate with Chucky boy is a gorilla. I know some real gorillas. Gorillas are some of my best friends. Chuck is no gorilla. LOL!!!
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 25, 2015, 02:37:02 pm
In this forum we have documented and demonstrated that:

a) Psychology of Vision damages participants;
b) Lency Spezzano uses stage hypnotism; and
c) Psychology of Vision programs and the presentations of Chuck and Lency Spezzano are deceptive and manipulative, and take advantage of First nations participants and anyone else.

It's all about the money filling the bank account of the for-profit corporation known as Spezzano and Associates Ltd.

And now, for a bit of fun, Tim and Eric's Zone Theory. This is so Spezzano-like in promising a quick fix and enlightenment, it even includes a triangle!--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 25, 2015, 09:11:00 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 5

Lency Spezzano

https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)
Within the last 24 hours, nearly half of Lenora Kay Spezzano's Youtube videos have been taken away from public view. It would appear that all the vanished videos were "downloading/joining" presentations. Only three videos concerning this subject remain on Lenora's public Youtube.

We have already transcribed all of these now-suppressed "downloading/joining" videos, so a record still exists for public examination. Start at this link--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655
 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655)

In addition I have dozens of screenshots from these presentations which I am more than willing to share in response to any government or media inquiries.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 01, 2015, 02:58:33 pm
A few updates and points of trivia--

Charles Lee Spezzano's upcoming June 6 appearance in Vancouver was originally marketed as a 5-day gig--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40020#msg40020 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40020#msg40020)

Well, apparently the pre-ticket sales have been below expectations and/or perhaps Spezzano is just plain greedy, but a new option of 3 days has been recently added for the seekers--

http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=76 (http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=76)

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"WHAT HAPPY PEOPLE KNOW"

3 or 5 Day Psychology of Vision Seminar

In Vancouver with Founder, Chuck Spezzano

June 6-10, 2015

This will be Chuck's only workshop in Canada in 2015 so join us.

To be happy is to know your own emotions, and to live from your authentic nature. This emotional maturity makes you open, attractive, and true.

The first step to becoming happy is to learn about emotions, what they are and how to handle them. Since emotions are a choice and not determined by something outside of you, you can learn to recognize and release them.

Awareness and the desire to begin the healing process is what is needed. Rightly used, the energy of your emotions transforms into positive feelings used to live your purpose and contribute to life. Becoming more centered, you add to your self-value and gain greater love and fulfillment.

This next bit forgot to mention his seminars are also famous for their dirty jokes and mind manipulation.

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This seminar will focus on the principles of emotional maturity developed by Chuck Spezzano. Chuck’s workshops offer a deep experiential learning opportunity in a supportive environment. His seminars are famous for their depth and humour and the connection that occurs when everyone’s heart is open.

The next part of the ad should start with, "Chuck Spezzano, APA unaccredited PhD ..."

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Chuck Spezzano PhD is a man with a vision. For over 40 years he has traveled the world empowering people to choose love over fear. His work is a path of the heart, which combines his many years of experience as a relationship coach, spiritual teacher and practical mystic. He empowers people to become happy in their life and consequently their relationships, and to live with humour, inspiration and guidance. Chuck co-founded the Psychology of Vision model with his wife Lency Spezzano. It is a healing model that is committed to helping people lead happy lives.  www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com

And now comes the part where the 3-day option is added. Notice the First Nations fee is hardly "free." Where has the money come from for the Haida Gwaii attendees to attend these sessions, particularly those who hold public positions? I'm not casting asparagus or making accusations here, but I am interested in the answer. If I had a public officer using public money in order to attend a cult brainwashing session, I would be pretty upset.  Especially if that money could've been used for something really useful instead of fattening the Spezzano bank account.

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There is a 3 Day option for this workshop - Saturday, June 6 - Monday, June 8th.

This 3 day seminar will be a complete healing experience as three days with Chuck Spezzano are always profound.
Register Now (by May 28th) for the 3 Day Option for $375 USD + tax
Couples, Senior, Students - $345 USD + tax
First Nations - $315 USD + tax
And if you want to experience the power of a 5 day which is about transformation then stay until Wednesday, June 10th.
Register Now (by May 28th) for 5 days for $625 USD + tax
Couples, Senior, Students - $575 USD + tax
First Nations - $475 USD + tax

If you feel inspired to join us for this workshop we specialize in creative solutions. Call Marianne at 604-526-4521 or email susan@povcanada.com for a little help from your friends.  Contact susan@povcanada.com for current CAD exchange rate.

In the following segment, I can't help but notice how long these sessions are. That is a red flag for cult watchers.

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Date: Saturday, June 6 – Wednesday, June 10, 2015

Workshop Hours:- 10 am – 7 pm Workshop ending time is approx.

Registration: Saturday, 9 – 10 am

Location: Executive Hotel, 4201 Lougheed Hwy, Burnaby, BC

A hotel group rate is available until May 8th – contact us for more information. www.executivehotels.net/burnaby

Group Rates are available.  Contact the office for the current CAD dollar tuition fee.

TO REGISTER ONLINE CLICK HERE

FOR MORE INFORMATION

Email canada@pov-int.com or taylor.myrna@gmail.com

Call Myrna Taylor 604-669-7400 or Marianne  Vermilyea 604-526-4521

It's all about the money.

-----

In other SALPOV news: Canada has added a new trainer, Bernadette Demens, and Alex Patchett-Joyce has returned to the roster of trainers on the UK SALPOV webpage.

http://povcanada.com/trainers/bernadette-demens-2/

-----

I recently reported on the deletion from public view of most of Lenora Kay Spezzano's "downloading/joining" Youtubes--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40325#msg40325 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40325#msg40325)

Only three examples survived the purge. And I wondered, why these three? Then I noticed they were the only three where the number of "thumbs up" outnumbered the "thumbs down." As I recall in all the rest of the videos the "thumbs down" option was the dominant choice of the viewers, especially overwhelming in the Babs Stevens hypnosis demonstration--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666)

-----

Ba'hee Priss Dimmie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on June 01, 2015, 06:59:19 pm
[quoteBa'hee Priss Dimmie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI][/quote]

Sandy S, they are zoned out all right!  It reminds me so much of Lency, only she is not so funny.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 01, 2015, 11:38:02 pm
Thanks Autumn for the comment on the Zone Theory link.

Take note of the attached image (must be signed in to view).

I have my spaghetti pot and my SALPOV DVD, so I am all set.

As far as diarrhea goes, Charles Lee Spezzano has addressed the spiritual metaphor aspect of that malady in the infamous and self-censored Healing Keys!--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693#msg37693)

Now I can get real sound advice that can make a difference!

Note: here's my past review of the attached image DVD--

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561;topicseen#msg37561 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561;topicseen#msg37561)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 08, 2015, 05:25:11 pm
Unfortunately Chuck is back in B.C., Canada. 5 day seminar "What Happy People Know".

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To be happy is to know your own emotions, and to live from your authentic nature. This emotional maturity makes you open, attractive, and true.

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And if you want to experience the power of a 5 day which is about transformation then stay until Wednesday, June 10th.
Register Now (by May 28th) for 5 days for $625 USD + tax
Couples, Senior, Students - $575 USD + tax
First Nations - $475 USD + tax

http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=76 (http://povcanada.com/event-registration/?ee=76)

POV continues to go after First Nations people. A discount on b.s. is still b.s.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on June 09, 2015, 05:00:55 pm
I just had a look at the second picture and almost fell off the chair when I read:

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biggest bugger (problem person)

At least in British English, that term carries notions of flatteries like sod, bastard, arsehole, and is also a not very nice term for a homosexual. Cultural and/or linguistic sensitivity is certainly not on the curriculum at PoV...

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 09, 2015, 06:32:42 pm
Given Spezzano's enjoyment of lewd jokes, it could very well be intentional, especially in front of a Canadian crowd.

The photos do provide more insight into how he operates. I see role playing continues to be a major part of his method. Here's a transcription of the entire display:

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Day 2 - Group Lunch Exercise

Each below do 2 style - Part I & II

a - Biggest problem (could someone close to you who has big problem)

b - Biggest bugger (problem person)

c - Partner (no partner with to with [male and female symbols])

Part I

1. Pick someone to represent the above a,b, & c

2. Say: "What do you need from me that I haven't given you enough of?"

3. Answer & take a step (they come to you)

Part II

- Pick someone to represent a,b,c

- Ask question "What do you"

- Answer, give it.

- How many step forward they take?

- They take step, unmask them

- Pick someone to represent the unmask one?

- Everyone take a step back & then go in front of previous person

- Ask question "What do you need" & repeat until integration

Back in room in 1:30 pm, wkshop starts at 3:15 pm.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 10, 2015, 01:36:45 pm
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Day # 3 - Group Exercise Lunch

a) Biggest Bugger (problem person)

b) Mother (the worst time in their life)

c) Father ( "   "     "    "   "     " )

d) Parents relationship (the worst time)

- Pick someone to represent a-b-c-d

- When did you split off that part?

- How have been punishing yourself? (relationship, $, purpose)

- [little heart symbols] Join by taking steps with each emotion

Group exercise time - 2 pm

Wkshop time - 4 pm
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 17, 2015, 02:10:08 pm
Interesting that in this age of electronics, the "cutting-edge" SALPOV Vancouver lecture still used large paper, felt tip pens, and easels.

And speaking of visuals, according to one former SALPOV trainer, here are the names of the various charts the trainers were expected to use in order to facilitate these long and expensive sessions--

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Groundings
Buddies
Dynamics of Seat Position
Levels of Awareness - Spirit
Levels of Awareness - God
Return to Oneness
Self Concepts and True Self
Layers of the Mind
Resistance
Family Roles and Birth Order
Dark Story
Light Story
Dynamics of Completion
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: AClockworkWhite on June 20, 2015, 03:48:56 pm
The 1980s called... they want their markers and giant notepad back. Chuck, please don't borrow supplies from the school storage room again without asking, thank you.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on June 21, 2015, 12:07:18 am
Good call! I love it.

Using cheap technology does cut down on the overhead, but it alienates younger attendees. Younger folks have come to expect more, especially if they are paying the insanely high fees demanded by Spezzano.

While we are on the subject of clueless fuddy-duddies, it has always seemed true to me that the Spezzanos are sort of living museum pieces, trapped in the amber of the 1970s and usually considerably lagging way behind whatever hot trend has captured the fancy of the New Age market the time. I say this as a person of their generation. Most of their fellow Americans today would laugh them out of the room since they come across as so corny and retro, which might partially explain why they have not cracked into the US market. The other reasons are in the legal realm, I would wager.

Now I will admit I am not real great on using modern technology either, but on the other hand I am not running around trying to sell nonsense to vulnerable people for hundreds or even thousands of dollars per event. I did give a public lecture not long ago in a museum and used an opaque projector from the Eisenhower era (example pictured) but the event was free and the young hipsters even liked the comedy of the medium. Plus, everyone left happy and informed (the subject was an art form). I highly doubt any of the participants departed needing follow-up therapy which would require them attending more of my "seminars" or "workshops."

So, OK, in search of common ground, this is what Spezzano and I share-- We are both old farts and are not real great at modern technology, and neither one of us are professionally qualified to mess with people's emotions, feelings, or psychological problems. For either one of us to pose as a professional in the field of counseling would basically mean we are frauds.

Oh.

Wait.

I briefly got caught up in the spirit of "Oneness." Forgive me. Chuck is indeed a fraud.

I have yet to find a source where Spezzano owns up to his non-APA recognized degree in the liberal arts-style "Professional Psychology" degree. He and/or his followers claim his degree is in counseling psychology or clinical psychology. As I have reproduced his actual thesis title page on this forum, we know both claims are fabrications. His thesis certainly was not medical in nature. And to get around the licensing and legal requirements he calls himself a "coach." In order for Spezzano to be a real psychologist of any sort he would be required to have more schooling. So far as I can see, the only post-graduate education he had was at Oneness University in 2007, which he initially called one of his "two greatest inspirations" but has been systematically deleted online since this thread was started.

The whole "coach" thing has been pretty much exposed as a consumer scam in the US.

In many ways Spezzano's egotistical boasting and confabulations about his own dubious fame and qualifications on his social networking sites and marketing, in addition to the incredibly whiney and smarmy Youtubes he has for public consumption, brings to mind a certain newly declared US Republican presidential candidate.

Yes, the time has come to declare Chuck Spezzano as the Donald Trump of the New Age. The Chuck and The Lency just couch their ethnocentric colonialism in different terms than The Donald, that's all. It is the sense of American entitlement they all share that binds this trio.

It is truly unfortunate that some FN people in positions of authority, such as Babs Stevens in Haida Gwaii, are willing to hand over their influence and decision-making power to help overfeed the already obese bank account of the New Age version of Donald Trump and serve as tools for psychocolonization. Victimizing a whole community in this manner is a very tainted legacy indeed. 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on June 21, 2015, 07:13:01 pm
Sandy S, LUV the projector!  Maybe you can lend it to Chuck.  It would be a great improvement over his unreadable and ugly visuals.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 22, 2015, 02:21:35 pm
Chuck's June 20th card of the day:

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AGEMAN
AGEMAN (ah gay mann) is the card for today. It is a Japanese word that is slang for a person who through sex brings good luck or to put it as my Japaneses men friends put it, it means "lucky pussy". Today is a day of good luck from sex. Enjoy!!
Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/06/ageman.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/06/ageman.html)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on June 22, 2015, 02:35:56 pm
Jeff and Sue Allen, POV trainers with their spinoff company Vision Works, have a different take on "ageman".

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During our training in Hawaii this year a Japanese Psychology of Vision Trainer spoke of a workshop she gave in Tokyo called “Ageman (Aa-ghe-mann) – The path of the abundant wife.” This is a high-level feminine gift workshop that speaks clearly of the significant contribution a woman can give to men and through them and their relationship to life they give to everyone. This is the destiny of women and when the power and the influence of it are embraced it significantly affects the circumstances of people’s lives.

http://visionworksforlife.com/2012/the-path-of-the-abundant-wife/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/2012/the-path-of-the-abundant-wife/)

Chuck had a choice between promoting "the path of the abundant wife" or "lucky pussy" (or a third choice of not doing any of this at all). Chuck's choice shows just how immature he is. I assume he behaves crudely for shock value and to recruit more giggling victims.

What does this say about his perception of women? What about how he perceives cultures not his own? Why on earth would we give this man any of our money or time?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 03, 2015, 03:09:47 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 6


Jordan Kao
Two short videos with music. One presents scenes from a Hawaii training in 2013, including shots of the Spezzano property and "barn." Another visually documents  a 2012 Thailand SALPOV event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4)

Visionworks for Life
Jeff Allen promotes an upcoming workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Autumn on July 03, 2015, 08:45:39 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 6


Jordan Kao
Two short videos with music. One presents scenes from a Hawaii training in 2013, including shots of the Spezzano property and "barn." Another visually documents  a 2012 Thailand SALPOV event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4)

Visionworks for Life
Jeff Allen promotes an upcoming workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM)

On that first video, at around the .45 mark, the graphics on the screen say "Chuck and Luancy".  Shouldn't that be "Chuck and Lunacy"?   :) :)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 04, 2015, 12:54:01 am
Places That Are Gone

One of the beauties of NAFPS is that we are a major clearing house for information and data pertaining to the study and discussion of several cult/for-profit corporations including the one known as Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV). In the online world, URL links frequently have short life spans and anyone attempting to use older posts will experience what is known as "link rot," where the original source has vanished and the reader is led down a dead end. But in many cases we have preserved a record of the SALPOV past which is available in no other online place but here in NAFPS.

Dead links can happen for a variety of reasons. In situations involving fraud exposure and cultbusting, it has been my experience that con artists expend a tremendous amount of energy deleting and reshaping their histories online in response to the light of truth revealing their con game.

Whenever the spotlight of truth brings one of their grifter games into focus, they usually scuttle away under a rock like reptiles and delete the evidence. Or, they pull the self-incriminating information from public view and only make it available to the gullible true believers who are willing to empty their wallets, like some kind of hoit-de-la-toit gated online community, with strictly controlled requirements for admission, i.e., being a true believer. No critical thinkers allowed!

In the following posts I will track the now-broken links that we have shared in this thread and provide a commentary. You will need to be signed on in order to view the attachments I will provide.

If possible I will either provide an alternative version or an attachment to compensate for the missing links.

Breaking the Silence and Healing the Legacy.
A broken Melissa Meyer link, reconnected via a Google search--
http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf (http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Breaking%20the%20Silence%20and%20Healing%20the%20RS%20Legacy.pdf)

GrowthVision
This website has revamped since the original link--
http://web.archive.org/web/20130922234312/http://growthvision.bz/Default.aspx?tabid=57 (http://web.archive.org/web/20130922234312/http://growthvision.bz/Default.aspx?tabid=57)
http://www.mygrowthvision.com/ (http://www.mygrowthvision.com/)

POV events
This was the SALPOV website that claimed Chuck Spezzano was actually "one of the world's leading psychologists" and that you could have the pleasure of his personal one-on-one company for over $1100 an hour, American. So, Donald Trump and Chuck Spezzano-- twins? Still present but has been disabled since Dec. 2014.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140316153448/http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20140316153448/http://www.povevents.com/chuck-spezzano/private-coaching-chuck-spezzano/)
http://web.archive.org/web/20140414184707/http://www.povevents.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20140414184707/http://www.povevents.com/)
http://www.povevents.com/ (http://www.povevents.com/)

Michael North's LinkedIn
At some point in the last six months, Mr. North erased the fact he served as an advisor for the UK SALPOV 2004-2010. Nothing else seems to have been deleted.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnorth)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35643#msg35643 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35643#msg35643)

Spezzanos' autobiography
The passage "The Spezzanos’ greatest inspirations come from A Course in Miracles and Oneness University" was changed to "The Spezzanos’ greatest inspirations come from A Course in Miracles" in January 2014 on the US, UK, and Canadian SALPOV websites.
http://povcanada.com/about-us/chuck-and-lency-biography/ (http://povcanada.com/about-us/chuck-and-lency-biography/)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35709#msg35709 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35709#msg35709)

"Healing The Body Through Mind And Metaphor" ebook for sale
Apparently this work, by Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst, was pulled from the online catalog in early 2014.
http://web.archive.org/web/20111210053400/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/ebooks/healing-the-body-through-mind-and-metaphor-by-chuck-spezzano-and-janie-ticehurst-download-version/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20111210053400/http://www.psychologyofvision.com/shop/ebooks/healing-the-body-through-mind-and-metaphor-by-chuck-spezzano-and-janie-ticehurst-download-version/)

Healing Keys, Metaphor A-Z
This website, authored by Spezzano and Ticehurst, was taken away from public view and then offered only as a subscriber service. It also called Chuck Spezzano a "psychologist." Not only was the website taken away from the general public, but the Internet Archive version was deleted as well, all in April 2014. Fortunately all of the "healing keys" and the most outrageous metaphors were preserved here on NAFPS.
http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm (http://www.healingkeys.com/MetaphorAtoZ.htm) (this will kick over to the new URL)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37041#msg37041)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37064#msg37064 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37064#msg37064)

Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual, English language ed., 2011
Taken away from public view in May 2014. Fortunately we have downloaded a copy (attached). As bad as the English version is, it turns out the German language edition has far more damaging data, since it contains something missing from the English version-- Section K, a blueprint for First Nations affinity fraud. Oddly, the German version is still available for the public to view, although it is updated annually and the old version is deleted. 2014 German ed. attached as well. Ingeborg presented an excellent series of posts in Feb. 2014 on the German version vs. English version starting at this link:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg36665#msg36665)

Begoña Velasco's autobiography
This is where she said, "I lived in Hawaii with Chuck, Lency Spezzano and their family (founders of Psychology of Vision) as part of the training." The webpage appears to have vanished at some point since Oct. 2013.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120916115800/http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php (http://web.archive.org/web/20120916115800/http://www.yogaintegralganesha.com/sobrenosotras_eng.php)

Pam Carruthers
SALPOV loyalist and former trainer Carruthers, now an astrologer, has apparently deleted the following sentence from her training workshop page at some point since Oct. 2013: "Pam is now a Oneness Blessing Giver, so the Grace and healing is accelerated for everyone."
http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/ (http://www.healingstars.com/healing-workshops/)

Spezzano Beach Place Youtube
Almost every comment of a critical or inquisitive nature has been deleted from Lency Spezzano's Youtubes. In this Youtube, Lency gives a tour of a very expensive looking condo, and someone asked where all the money came from. Her response was "I inherited money from a family farm land sale and we felt it was the best investment we could make for our kids and grandkids. The downpayment on our other property came as a gift from my parents soon after we were married."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhNN5nKUaA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhNN5nKUaA)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35962#msg35962 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg35962#msg35962)

Chuck Spezzano's LinkedIn
Around early 2014 Oneness University was removed from Spezzano's list of educational institutions attended.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396 (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396)

Chuck Spezzano's Self-Health Youtube, 2010.
This was the Youtube where Spezzano said, "You can't have health problems unless you feel guilty about something, and then at an even deeper level you can't have a health problem unless you're getting revenge on someone." On the comment section someone questioned Spezzano's professional credentials. Since the Youtube was under Janie Ticehurst's name, Julian Ticehurst responded, "That's true. Chuck Spezzano is not a psychologist, he isn't licensed. He describes himself as a Coach. Janie describes herself as a Health Coach. Janie is a Registered Nurse. She is not licensed to counsel or to be any form of psychologist. All the best and thanks for raising this important point." The whole video was completely removed shortly after this comment in early 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37054#msg37054 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37054#msg37054)

Kim Millar
This former UK SALPOV trainer removed the following passage from her Google blog profile in early 2014: "I have had many wonderful teachers along the way, and continue to work with inspirational mentors. Deep and heartfelt gratitude goes to Chuck and Lency Spezzano for their ground-breaking Psychology of Vision model."
https://www.blogger.com/profile/10246412010498500641 (https://www.blogger.com/profile/10246412010498500641)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37073#msg37073 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37073#msg37073)

Jeremy Marchant
Marchant, a SALPOV trained business consultant in the UK, deleted a page in early 2014 where he praised Chuck Spezzano thusly: "A primary source of emotional intelligence at work‘s EI material is based on Psychology of Vision, as developed by Chuck Spezzano. This takes a largely mainstream post-Freudian approach [see, for example, Eric Berne, A layman’s guide to psychiatry and psychoanalysis] and elaborates it with extensive borrowings from other sources of which Carl Jung, NLP and transactional analysis are the most obvious. Chuck’s genius is to keep the complexity but hide it from the client (unless the client is interested in it) so as to provide a powerful transformational approach."
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37086#msg37086 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37086#msg37086)

Bouys
Clear up to mid 2014, SALPOV was selling "bouys," but the product appears to have been yanked from inventory.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37937#msg37937 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37937#msg37937)

Jack Miller's Poem
SALPOV cult follower Miller wrote a poem worshipping the Spezzanos which was posted on the SALPOV website under the "Mastery Feedback" category. It has been deleted at some point between Aug. 2014-Jan. 2015.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37960#msg37960 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37960#msg37960)

Spezzano Past Events
An archive of past SALPOV for-profit events was wiped from the Spezzano's website sometime in the last 10 months.
http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events-Old.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/Events-Old.htm)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg38289#msg38289)

Cornerstones Wellness
Here's a strange one. Two SALPOV trainers in Canada, Betty Lou Hunt and Joanne Roberts swiped and twisted the words of spiritual teacher Rasha in late 2013 and early 2014 to make it appear she endorsed the party line. It was an outright act of theft and propaganda. Rasha responded in no uncertain terms that she did NOT endorse SALPOV. Hunt and Roberts promised to take down all online references to Rasha, but this one page was never taken down. Recently the font was changed to make it harder to read, but you can still make it out, and if you print it the whole thing will reproduce just fine. Jerks.
http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/ (http://www.cornerstoneswellness.com/workshops/shift-series/)

Nanna Bäumer
This website vanished in Feb. 2015 shortly after it was profiled by Ingeborg.
http://www.nannabaeumer.de/NannaBaeumer.php (http://www.nannabaeumer.de/NannaBaeumer.php)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39605#msg39605 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39605#msg39605)

Lency Spezzano "Peace and Success"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Denise Moroney as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HcGBhxo6Fk)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655)

Lency Spezzano "Healing the Dark Night of the Soul"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with "Fujiko" as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kyfPA5eS8)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39656#msg39656 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39656#msg39656)

Lency Spezzano "Perfect Health"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Hiromi Kurihara as the victim. This vid was given the "If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzQKJ0T_fg)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39657#msg39657 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39657#msg39657)

Lency Spezzano "Healing the Great Wars"
This is a classic example of brainwashing with the control group as the victim. This vid was given the "If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gTQfgjc_4)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39658#msg39658 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39658#msg39658)

Lency Spezzano "Embodying the Divine Feminine"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Susan How as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280lsAGqk38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280lsAGqk38)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39660#msg39660 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39660#msg39660)

Lency Spezzano "Chillaxing"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Nicky Rangecroft as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmfpTgQBjAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmfpTgQBjAM)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39661#msg39661 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39661#msg39661)

Lency Spezzano "Greater Intimacy with God"
This is THE classic example of stage hypnosis with Jordan Kao as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxyxm1BHhY)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39662#msg39662 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39662#msg39662)

Lency Spezzano "Healing Competition"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Avril Woodward as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUuDfTsPIg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUuDfTsPIg)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39663#msg39663 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39663#msg39663)

Lency Spezzano "Freedom from Judging the Ego"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Joy Huang Huishu as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hUNATwbFY)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39664#msg39664 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39664#msg39664)

Lency Spezzano "Abundance"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Ian Y. Lai as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn_9km2_D1o)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39665#msg39665 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39665#msg39665)

Lency Spezzano "Original Mind"
This is the saddest classic example of stage hypnosis with Babs Stevens as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds1BgICdBY)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666)

Lency Spezzano "Freedom From Fear"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Mami Yoshida as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQDPuf592Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQDPuf592Q)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39669#msg39669 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39669#msg39669)

Lency Spezzano "Healing Shame"
This is a classic example of stage hypnosis with Naoko Takahashi (?) as the victim. This vid was given "If the owner of this video has granted you access please sign in" gated community status on May 24-25, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBW0PQU4Ys)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39670#msg39670 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39670#msg39670)

Spar Street video montage
Included in a filmography here Mar. 31, 2015, then deleted from Youtube within a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZuxycQNDHo)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39848#msg39848 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39848#msg39848)













Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on July 15, 2015, 04:22:35 pm
A German-language video presenting Chuck Spezzano and a student by the name of Elke Kirchner, has popped up here:
https://vimeo.com/125750799

Apart from being a long-term follower of PoV, Kirchner is also a seller of indigenous ceremony and partner/wife of a plastic shame-on who set up shop in Germany – a certain Philip Young, going by Philip Kansa aka Spirit Bear (pls cf http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1474.msg8935#msg8935  ).

Title: Healing Through Emotional Freedom
uploaded 2 months ago (i.e. approx May 2015)


Elke Kirchner (EK):
„I first met Chuck 14 years ago, in person, that was the year that my mother died. And I had a cystic tumour. That year Chuck did his first lecture in Hamburg. On stage, he said "When you got a physical problem, then quite likely two years earlier you promised something to yourself and failed to keep the promise." And I remembered I had promised something to myself which I didn't keep. That was the week when the tests were done whether the tumour was malign or benign. I went home and - ahm, the next morning I got two things done which I had to do, that is to keep the promise. The marker of the tumour was more than good, that meant it was benign, and six weeks later, it had reduced its size by half. And --- I was very frightened. Cause, my mother was just about to die from cancer. And I only have known my parents fighting. Like, from when I was small, they were only fighting. And for my 30th birthday I expressed my wish that they could come together in peace just for once. But it didn't work out. But shortly before my mother's death - she could hardly even dial a phone number then - she said: "Integrate your father into the family". And that was two mon---- two weeks after I took a 3-day seminar with Chuck. And then I knew I had to continue.“

Chuck Spezzano (CS):
[Chucks words are paraphrased here because his voice is partly overlaid by the German translation]
CS claims that the first thing he came up with in the way of an answer was that he remembered how he began with his healing work. The origins come from his own childhood. He remembered his parents who often fought, too, and it was painful to see and although he and his siblings loved their parents, they couldn't do anything regarding their arguments. And they never knew how to reach out to their parents, and that was very painful for them [the children]. So he made a promise to himself that he'd learn everything necessary to free people from their pain.

Subtitle: I had to carry on - Chuck's influence on Elke's work

EK:
„So many people come to me and want solutions from the angels. Yes, I've given many readings, but people didn't do anything with them. And then I realised that they come from a level so high up that they do not make use of it. And while I went from one seminar to the next with Chuck and Lency, I experienced so much more release***. I had to go through many ---- many dark emotions and sometimes I came home and I felt worse than before, but then six weeks later I all of a sudden was able to laugh again as a child. And I realised that I got more and more free. And the relationship to my husband got better and better. And I started, this fell right into place, to pass on what I learned with Chuck and Lency, in the seminars, what I experienced myself, to my - errm: our participants. [Very deep sigh] And all of a sudden I was able to help.“

[*** Translator's note: The German word used by EK also translates to "disorganisation, breakup, dissolution, disintegration“. This is a prime example of PoV Newspeak and its redefinitions! ]

Subtitle: Healing means healing relationships (3:58)

CS:
Says he learned that everything goes back to the level of the relationship and that all real healing was healing relationships. And that every problem finally was a problem at the level of relationship. And I learned that what made people happy was to be able to help others. We're naturally inter-personally oriented, and that all of our relationships are merely a reflexion of ourselves. So anyone who is acting badly, behaving badly in our environment, then this person merely demonstrates us a concept of ourselves, a dogma which we keep.


EK (4:53)
„And what I learned with Chuck and Lency is that every person has a great gift in them. Since I'm clairvoyant, I saw what it is and through working with Chuck and Lency I was able to show how a person can live these gifts. It is often that people first have to dissolve their childhood traumatas [sic] to realise who they are. And what else I learned is that there is nothing, really nothing that can't be healed. Even when I spent weeks sometimes in pain, or in fear - my topic is fear -, I always remembered Chuck's words that 20% are related to the present situation, and 80% are old stuff. So feel the old things and go through them. And then another layer of traumatas [sic] was gone.“


Subtitle: Partnership means to overcome Independence

CS:
And I drew a map with the phases which are taken up in relationships and also in personal development. And I found out that every person goes through the same steps as does every couple. And when we then find ourselves in dependency, at first, our pain comes from the world does not function they way we would like it to. And out of this pain we dissociate ourselves, we become independent. And when we then manage to overcome independence and get onto the level of partnership, we develop from very independent persons to leaders and partners. And then our mind opens for clairvoyant abilities and for shamanic abilities, artistic abilities open up and healing abilities, we become visionaries. And then we get to even a higher stage of levels to be masterly with our partner. And then we're a bridge between heaven and earth, and from there, we develop from interdependence to a radical dependency - or we could say in other words that from then on, we simply live a life of love. It's a surrender to heaven. Buddha once said that when 2 or 3 people came together in his name, he will be right there. And also Jesus said the same, he said when people gather in my name I will be among them. And this is about the path of Joining, about the relation, about love and about forgiving. In this respect we're on the way back into being one. And all obstacles occuring on the way reflect only our fear.

And fear and separation can work intra-personal, or inter-psychological, or in combination with heaven. "A Course in Miracle" says that when you want to help one million people, then forgive God. I always thought: I've got no issue with God. I'd always thought he could perhaps do a somewhat better job with this world, but all in all I felt good about God. But any negative emotion you have is an expression of your having an issue with God. Any agreement [Transl. note: CS in fact uses the term agreement which is clearly to hear before the translation begins which renders 'agreement' as 'grudge'!] - Any grudge you hold against anybody - below that you will always find a layer of self-attack and below a problem with God you got.

In the 70ies, my workload was so busy that I had to find a way to get into the subconscious of people quickly to be able to help them. And the subconscious goes from the time of our conception up to this very moment, the present, and the unconscious is even bigger. And most of it is a split mind - it's working so that we do things we actually don't really want to do. And then as I found the way into the subconscious, the unconscious opened or also the soul level. I saw ancestral patterns beginning to affect people's success and also their health. And then the soul patterns they already brought into this life. And lately I've been working with just how to collect those [Transl. note: Again the translation renders this differently] / And lately I've been working on how this collective works on people and also the dark unconscious. And the roots of every problem eventually leads back to the own fall, when we fell out of being one.

And what I did was basically, you know, is finding problems to get them out of the way, so that only love and health can be so that people can be happy. So I've been doing this for nearly 42 years. Every day I get going and just share my abilities and simply love people. In this respect I feel the happiest person there is on earth. Because I can see who the others really are, and help remove what's hurting them. And it is possible to do away with the misunderstandings which led them astray from their path. So my own healing occurs just as I help others. And it's an adventure finding a way to bring heaven to earth and then go beyond. So I feel really thankful in my life and as I mentioned often before on this tour, if I didn't have the people who come to me and I can help them, I'd be a bridge leading nowhere. So thank you.

Subtitle: Students become Partners

CS:
Every one of us is on an evolutionary path and there's nothing more exciting than to feel people move from participants to colleagues. So we join arm in arm in this common purpose and help to save the world. We just learn how to love more and become radiant - and it's so evident you touch so many persons [turning to the student in front of him], so we heal together and we learn together. And we carry out our individual purposes and the confidence grows, the community grows and I just so appreciate that you heard the call and go out into the world and we do this work together. Groups coming together to form a community is our future. And that's what we've done as a team. And it's a beautiful thing. And I feel the gratitude also.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on July 15, 2015, 04:26:42 pm
Comments:

The video points out how Spezzano uses the account of a client and adjusts his own vita to match the one of his victim: After the client explained the difficulties between her parents and how this affected her, he also claims similar experience. As his client sells indigenous ceremonies besides her PoV involvement, he also uses the term 'shamanic' for her to relate. His client also claims to be clairvoyant, and bingo!, the term clairvoyant pops up in his reply, too.

Spezzano's description of a model of different levels his clients will reach is interesting, too. He uses the terms 'independence' and 'dependency' in a re-defined way, so that independence becomes something inferior and to be overcome, while dependency is lined out as what to aim for. Although at face level, the dependency is to be sought within a relationship (as in marriage or partnership), we must also take into account that the client at the same time will also build a relationship to PoV, to PoV trainers and course participants, and to Spezzano. Furthermore, Spezzano and thus PoV neglect the fact that outside of their cult, dependency in a relationship is viewed rather critical. This also points to the fact that PoV is no science, it is a pseudo-science, without peer review from stage one.

The re-defined meanings given to the terms independence and dependency, and the implications this re-definition will assume, also render PoV as unsuited for survivors of sexual, physical, and psychological abuse. It also becomes apparent that PoV means to offer these survivors (another) kind of dependency in the place of the ones they may have developed during their life. Dependency thus seems to be the glue that keeps couples together and, at the same time, in the cult.

Part of this dependency is to be explained by Spezzano's emphasis that only living within a relationship will enable an individual to arrive at higher levels. Of course this overemphasises the importance of a relationship in the view of the clients, so that a relationship, any relationship they may have, becomes vital to enable their alleged spiritual growth. It will therefore become vital to keep up the relationship, and if need be, stop a partner/husband/wife from separating. If certain levels can only be arrived at on the basis of a relationship, then losing this relationship will be equalled with losing that status and brand the client a failure. As the PoV cult, however, proclaims to enable a continuing growth for their clients, this is something to be definitely avoided. In particular when both partners are part of the PoV circuit, it is easy to perceive how they will react to notions their relationship may have failed – by ignoring and denying any such notion.
 
Therefore, yes, all the seminars Spezzano does in Europe as a self-styled 'relationship expert' are a hook cast out to catch more fish for PoV among persons emotionally insecure, unsure or unhappy in their partnership/marriage and eager to accept something praised as a sure-fire quick fix.

Spezzano also uses several idioms which are otherwise heard in church, so e.g. 'you heard the call', and 'you go out into the world'. Keep in mind Spezzano had joined a Catholic order and taken initial vows. So PoV is not only to be seen as pseudo-science, it also presents itself as an ersatz religion, and a cult. This is particularly critical regarding the PoV claim of being First Nations' friendly and even of reflecting the same values as First Nations' cultures. In fact, PoV does not mean to keep indigenous religions and cultures thriving or even alive – in their world view, they must be replaced by PoV values and the ersatz religion PoV means to place in their stead. PoV thus aims at assimilation, just that this time, indigenous persons will not be assimilated into the dominant culture, but into a fringe group with a high level of social control over each other.

In the last part of the video, Spezzano outlines that PoV not only wants to attract a followership, but it means to turn 'students' into active sellers of courses. So an individual's career within the cult seems to be outlined rather clearly: join, take courses, take more courses, and eventually become a seller of courses yourself, i.e. an advancement from victim to culprit. The aim, phrased in PoV world view, is to 'save the world'... So what we get is a cult made up of persons who are told they are a vanguard, more advanced than the rest of us. Of course it is BS they will be able to 'save the world', or 'heal the planet', but this goal which can never be fully achieved also serves to keep the carrot dangling in front of the cult followers' noses: you just want to take a few more courses, and then it can be done. Meanwhile, the set of courses will have been added to – PoV got Mastery courses, Steps To Leadership, Vision Works, the 100-Day graduate courses etc, all thought up to secure more profit from cult followers.

As PoV is targeting indigenous communities in Canada, this is highly alarming. PoV will undermine indigenous cultures and religions, undermine tribal governments and turn adherents into dependent followers who are proud to be dependent and, on top of that, believe this was an advancement. Giving PoV access to rezzes and communities, however, will not only mean assimilation into a cult, but termination of the nations – except for a few folksy elements, so that PoV can continue claiming their BS reflected indigenous values plus ask for donations to make up for First Nations' rebates in course fees.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:39:05 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 1

In part of her Truth screed Lency Spezzano proclaimed--
   
Quote
What Happened in 2004 with The State of Hawaii Regarding Chuck’s Status As A Psychologist?

Nothing at all. We were marginally involved with a custody battle many years before, in that we wrote letters of support for a woman in relation to the child custody case with her ex-husband. The ex-husband’s lawyer claimed that, because our Psychology of Vision logo was on our stationary, that the logo meant we were both claiming to be licensed psychologists; so the judge ruled our letters were inadmissible, even though Chuck signed his letter “Chuck Spezzano, Ph.D., M.F.C.C.” and I signed “Lency Spezzano, M.Sc.” As it turned out, our letters did not figure into the final outcome, because the judge ruled in favor of the wife anyway.

http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-happened-in-2004-with-the-state-of-hawaii-regarding-chucks-status-as-a-psychologist/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-happened-in-2004-with-the-state-of-hawaii-regarding-chucks-status-as-a-psychologist/)

"Nothing at all" is not how I would characterize the results of this case. Chuck Spezzano was hauled into court and paid a $500 fine as a settlement rather than contest it.

The real "final outcome" was heart-breaking. Steve Tipaldi, the man in the divorce case, committed suicide just a few months after the Spezzano fine. Tipaldi had several mental health and physiological issues of his own which I am sure didn't help his cause, but it seems the system allowed him to fall through the cracks. His tragic action was not directly connected to Spezzano, obviously, but among his complaints was this: "I declare that there is a document in the record by Chuck Spezzano, claiming to have seen me as a patient in a professional capacity. I declare that at no time have I or had I been a patient of Mr. Spezzano."

Before you read on, please take a look at some previous links regarding this case in order to have some background--

Here is some more detail about the Tipaldi case:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37415#msg37415 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37415#msg37415)

Here is some more detail about Chuck Spezzano's lack of professional qualifications and why he can never be seriously considered as a  "professional" or "psychologist"--
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693)

OK, now that you have read the backstory I won't have to repeat myself. Let's move on.

Before I retired I had the experience of interacting with several state governments in the course of my public duties. None of them were as slow and Byzantine as Hawaii. Just try to email a Hawaiian state employee to have your problem dealt with directly. Voicemail? What's that? After my experiences with The Aloha State I was relieved to see it wasn't just me after reading this article by a Hawaiian journalist--

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110501_Obama_not_immune_from_states_twisted_bureaucracy.html?id=121046843 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110501_Obama_not_immune_from_states_twisted_bureaucracy.html?id=121046843)

So, I started the process in OCTOBER 2014, and just this month finally obtained the court papers relating to this 2004 case. In the course of this series I will be sharing these public documents. Taken alone and compartmentalized they are actually pretty mundane, but when one regards these papers alongside the rest of the documentation we have provided here on NAFPS, they possess a certain fascination.

Also, since NAFPS has by default become the archive of documents related to Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) for the public to review, the inclusion of these court papers is most appropriate.

I'll be attaching images as I go but you must be signed to view. Attached in this post, Steve Tipaldi, 1954-2004.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:42:56 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 2

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DENISE P. BALANAY 5526-0
Regulated Industries Complaints Office
Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs
State of Hawaii
235 South Beretania St., 9th Floor
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
Telephone: (808) 586-2660

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

S.P. NO. 04-1-0153 (VSM) (INJUNCTION)

...


APPLICATION FOR ENTRY OF CONSENT JUDGMENT

The STATE OF HAWAII, through its Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (hereafter "Petitioner", by and through its undersigned attorney, and CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION (hereinafter "Respondent"), applicants herein, request the entry of a Consent Judgment and in support of this request state as follows:

1. Petitioner is a body sovereign and politic.
2. Respondent is a resident of the State of Hawaii.
3. This proceeding is brought under Hawaii Revised Statutes (hereafter "HRS") Chapters 436B (Professional and Vocational Licensing), 465 (Psychologists), and 487 (Consumer Protection).
4. This court has jurisdiction of this matter pursuant to HRS 436B-27(c) and 603-21.5(2).
5. The acts hereafter alleged in the Statement of Alleged Violations of Law, attached hereto, occurred in the City and County of Honolulu, State of Hawaii.
6. Respondent understands that he has the right to be represented by legal counsel, and is represented by Martin E. Hsia, Esq.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, APR 7 2004
CHARLES L. SPEZZANO
Respondent

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, APR 30 2004
DENISE P. BALANAY
Attorney for Petitioner

Here is the text of the statutes mentioned in the 4th category above--

§436B-27  Civil and criminal sanctions for unlicensed activity; fines; injunctive relief; damages; forfeiture.
(c)  The department, licensing authority, or any person may maintain a suit to enjoin the performance or the continuance of any act or acts by a person acting without a license where a license is required by law, and if injured thereby, for the recovery of damages.  The department may also seek the imposition of fines provided by subsection (a).  The plaintiff or petitioner in a suit for an injunction need not allege or prove actual damages to prevail.  Reasonable attorney fees and costs shall be allowed by the court to the plaintiff or petitioner as the prevailing party.

§603-21.5  General.  (a)  The several circuit courts shall have jurisdiction, except as otherwise expressly provided by statute, of:
(2)  Actions for penalties and forfeitures incurred under the laws of the State;






Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:50:33 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 3

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

STATEMENT OF ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF LAW AND REASONS FOR ENTERING INTO CONSENT JUDGMENT

The STATE OF HAWAII, by its Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (hereinafter "Petitioner"), by its undersigned attorney, files this Statement of Alleged Violations of Law and Reasons for Entering in Consent Judgment pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes (hereinafter "HRS") 480-22.

Here is the text of 480-22--

Haw. Rev. Stat. § 480-22 : Hawaii Statutes - Section 480-22: Judgment in favor of the State as evidence in private action; suspension of limitation.

(a) A final judgment or decree rendered in any civil or criminal proceeding brought by the State under this chapter shall be prima facie evidence against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14, against the defendant as to all matters respecting which the judgment or decree would be an estoppel between the parties thereto. This section shall not apply to consent judgments or decrees entered before any complaint has been filed; provided that when a consent judgment or decree is filed, the attorney general shall set forth at the same time the alleged violations and reasons for entering into the consent judgment or decree. No consent judgment or decree that is entered before any complaint has been filed shall become final until sixty days from the filing of the consent judgment or decree or until the final determination of any exceptions filed, as hereinafter provided, whichever is later. During the sixty-day period any interested party covered under section 480-13 may file verified exceptions to the form and substance of the consent judgment or decree, and the court, upon a full hearing thereon may approve, refuse to approve, or may modify the consent judgment or decree.

(b) A plea of nolo contendere and a final judgment or decree rendered pursuant to that plea in any criminal action under this chapter shall not be admissible against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14 against the defendant.

(c) Whenever any civil or criminal proceeding is instituted by the State to prevent, restrain, or punish violations of this chapter, but not including an action under section 480-14, the running of the statute of limitations in respect of every private right of action arising under the laws and based in whole or in part on any matter complained of in the proceeding shall be suspended during the pendency thereof and for one year thereafter. [L 1961, c 190, §20; Supp, §205A-20; HRS §480-22; am L 1981, c 181, §1; am L 2001, c 79, §3; am L 2008, c 19, §7]


Back to the main court document--

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A. Statement of Alleged Violations of Law

1. Respondent is a resident of the State of Hawaii.
2. Respondent is not licensed with the DCCA as a psychologist.
3. On or about October 13, 1995, Respondent prepared a report regarding Steven Tipaldi and Sarah Maculum. Petitioner alleges that said report constitutes the practice of psychology and/or the representation of Respondent as a psychologist.
4. Petitioner alleges that respondent, by engaging in the above-described conduct without first obtaining a license to practice psychology from the DCCA, violated HRS 436B-27(B), 465-2, 465-15(a)(1), 465-15(a)(3), 480-2 and 487-13(a).

Here is the text of the statutes cited-

§436B-27  Civil and criminal sanctions for unlicensed activity; fines; injunctive relief; damages; forfeiture.
(b)  Any person, who engages in an activity requiring a license issued by the licensing authority and who fails to obtain the required license, or who uses any word, title, or representation to induce the false belief that the person is licensed to engage in the activity, other than a licensee who inadvertently fails to maintain licensing requirements under the appropriate licensing statute and who subsequently corrects the failure so that there was no lapse in licensure, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and each day of unlicensed activity shall be deemed a separate offense.

§465-2  License required.  Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, it shall be unlawful to represent one's self as a psychologist or engage in the practice of psychology without having first obtained a license as provided in this chapter. [L 1967, c 290, pt of §1; HRS §465-2; am L 1971, c 84, §2; am L 1985, c 115, §4]

§465-15  Prohibited acts; penalties.  (a)  No person shall:
(1)  Use in connection with the person's name any designation tending to imply that the person is a licensed psychologist unless the person is duly licensed and authorized under this chapter;
(3)  Advertise or make a representation, either publicly or privately, as being a psychologist, licensed or otherwise, or as being able to perform professional services described in section 465-1, except as otherwise provided in this chapter, without having a valid unrevoked license or temporary permit issued by the director;

§480-2  Unfair competition, practices, declared unlawful. 
(a)  Unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce are unlawful.
(b)  In construing this section, the courts and the office of consumer protection shall give due consideration to the rules, regulations, and decisions of the Federal Trade Commission and the federal courts interpreting section 5(a)(1) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 45(a)(1)), as from time to time amended.
(c)  No showing that the proceeding or suit would be in the public interest (as these terms are interpreted under section 5(b) of the Federal Trade Commission Act) is necessary in any action brought under this section.
(d)  No person other than a consumer, the attorney general or the director of the office of consumer protection may bring an action based upon unfair or deceptive acts or practices declared unlawful by this section.
(e)  Any person may bring an action based on unfair methods of competition declared unlawful by this section. [L 1965, c 129, pt of §1; Supp, §205A-1.1; HRS §480-2; am L 1987, c 274, §2; am L 1988, c 51, §1; am L 2002, c 229, §2]

§487-13  Unlicensed acts; penalties.  (a)  Any person who furnishes commodities or services for which a license, registration, or certificate is required from the department of commerce and consumer affairs or any board or commission thereunder without having such license, registration, or certificate is engaged in an unlawful act or practice and shall be subject to the penalty provided in subsection (b).
(b)  Any person who engages in an unlawful act or practice as provided in subsection (a) shall be fined by a sum not less than $500 nor more than $2,500 for each unlawful act or practice, which sum shall be collected in a civil suit brought by the office of consumer protection or the department of commerce and consumer affairs.


Let us resume with the court document--

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B. Reasons For Entering Into Consent Judgment

1. Respondent does not admit the allegations of Petitioner set forth in Section A above.
2. Respondent and Petitioner have agreed to a settlement of this matter pursuant to the terms of the attached Consent Judgment as a compromise to avoid litigation and the cost attendant thereto.
3. Restitution is not an issue in this matter.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, APR 30 2004
DENISE P. BALANAY
Attorney for Petitioner
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:53:29 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 4

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

AFFIDAVIT OF CHARLES L. SPEZZANO

STATE OF HAWAII
CITY AND COUNTY OF HONOLULU

I, CHARLES L. SPEZZANO, being first duly sworn upon oath, depose and say that:

1. I have read and understand each of the following documents:
a. Application for Entry of Consent Judgment;
b. Statement of Alleged Violations of Law and Reasons for Entering in Consent Judgment; and
c. Consent Judgment.

2. I understand that I have the right to be represented by legal counsel, and I am represented by Martin Hsia, Esq.

3. After reading the documents set out above, I understand what they mean, and being fully aware of my rights, it is my desire to make this application for Consent Judgment.

Further Affiant sayeth naught.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO

Subscribed and sworn to before me
this 7th day of April, 2004

TRACY L. NAKOA
Notary Public - State of Hawaii
My commission expires: April 7, 2006
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:57:06 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 5

Quote
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

CONSENT JUDGMENT

The STATE OF HAWAII, through its Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (hereinafter "Petitioner"), through its undersigned attorney, having filed a Statement of Alleged Violations of Law and Reasons for Entering in Consent Judgment, and the parties hereto having consented to the entry of this Consent Judgment prior to the filing of a Complaint.

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED THAT:

1. This Court has jurisdiction of this matter and the parties hereto under Hawaii Revised Statutes (hereinafter "HRS") 436B-27(c), 480-15, 603-21.5(2).
2. Petitioner's Statement of Alleged Violations of Law states a claim upon which relief may be granted under HRS Chapters 436B, 465, 480 and 487.
3. Immediately upon the entry of this Consent Judgment, CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION (hereinafter "Respondent"), his agents, employees, servants and those in active concert with respondent are enjoined from offering to provide, or providing any services for which a registration is required pursuant to HRS Chapter 465, unless and until Respondent duly registers as a psychologist with the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, State of Hawaii.
4. Respondent agrees to pay a civil fine in the amount of FIVE HUNDRED AND NO/100 DOLLARS ($500.00) at the time of execution of this Consent Judgment. Payment shall be made by cashier's check or money order payable to the "DCCA-Compliance Resolution Fund," and delivered or mailed to the Regulated Industries Complaints Office, Attn: DENISE P. BALANAY, Esq., 235 S. Berentania Street, 9th floor, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813.
5. Restitution is not an issue in this action.
6. Under no circumstances shall this Consent Judgment or the name of the State of Hawaii, the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, or its employees or subdivisions be used by Respondent in connection with any selling, advertising, or promotion of any product or services.
7. This Consent Judgment shall apply to Respondent, his agents, successors, and assigns.
8. Nothing in this Consent Judgment shall be construed to permit or make lawful any act, practice, or course of conduct prohibited or made unlawful by HRS Chapters 436B, 465, 480 and 487.
9. This Court shall retain jurisdiction of this case, and if it shall be made to appear to the Court that there has been a violation of any of the terms of this Consent Judgment by Respondent, upon petition, this Court may enter an order to show cause why a contempt citation should not be entered.
10. All of the provisions of this Consent Judgment shall become final sixty (60) days from the date of entry of this Consent Judgment, unless during such sixty-day (60) period, any interested party covered under HRS 480-22 has filed verified exceptions to the form or substance thereof. In the event such verified exceptions are filed, the Court, upon a full hearing thereof, may approved or refuse to enter or modify the Consent Judgment.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, May 6, 2004.

Victoria S. Marks
JUDGE OF THE ABOVE-ENTITLED COURT

APPROVED AS TO FORM:
MARTIN E. HSIA
Attorney for Respondent
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 10:59:07 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 6
 
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DENISE P. BALANAY 5526-0
Regulated Industries Complaints Office
Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs
State of Hawaii
235 South Beretania St., 9th Floor
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
Telephone: (808) 586-2660

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

S.P. NO. 04-1-0153 (VSM) (INJUNCTION)

SATISFACTION OF MONETARY JUDGMENT

Comes now the State of Hawaii, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, through his undersigned attorney, and hereby states and acknowledge satisfaction of the monetary claims embodied in the Consent Judgment filed herein on May 7, 2004, in the amount of FIVE HUNDRED AND NO/100 DOLLARS ($500.00) in civil penalties.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, May 17 2004.

DENISE P. BALANAY
Attorney for Petitioner
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 16, 2015, 11:31:56 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 7

As I prepare comments on these documents I note that Mark E. Recktenwald now serves as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Hawaii.

It would appear Recktenwald and Balanay thought a justified case existed against SALPOV, and Spezzano refused to defend it in open court. That looks pretty bad for the Respondent. 

So, to my simple layman mind this Consent Judgment avoidance of a trial while not admitting guilt looks to be a close cousin to the plea of "nolo contendere," or "no contest," famously used by alleged bribery recipient US Vice-President Spiro T. Agnew in 1973, who resigned his office in disgrace.

Sure, there could be nuances between these two types of plea bargains I am missing. For one thing, it would seem that by agreeing to a consent judgment, the Court keeps the respondent on a short leash for seemingly an eternity.

In reading the conditions imposed on Spezzano in part 5 of this series I would submit that there have been numerous instances of contempt and violation since 2004. We have already documented several such cases here on NAFPS. 

For openers, as Lenora Kay Spezzano admits in her screed, the very name of the for-profit corporation, "Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision" suggests that one can expect this company to have real professional psychologists on hand. But not one single person serving on staff or as a trainer is qualified or could be a considered a professional in this field, including the Spezzanos. You would think after a court ruling like this they would change the name of their brand. Even the Honolulu Yellow Pages lists them under "Psychologists."

http://www.yellowpagecity.com/US/HI/Honolulu/Psychologists/Page+4/ (http://www.yellowpagecity.com/US/HI/Honolulu/Psychologists/Page+4/)

How did that happen? It is a fraudulent listing and needs to be removed.

The post-2004 violations fall into three categories.

First, direct deception by Spezzano himself. His Ph.D. degree, as we have demonstrated by reproducing the title page of his thesis (attached), was in the liberal arts style "Professional Psychology" and his dissertation was classified by an academic library as literature rather than science. But in his LinkedIn and own webpage, Spezzano claims his degree was in "Counseling Psychology"--

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396 (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-spezzano/21/4a7/396)

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ChuckSpezzano.htm)

Now I will admit it is possible his diploma and his thesis could have different descriptions of whatever degree he earned, but that would be sort of weird. At any rate, his degree is not accredited by the APA anyway, so it does not really matter.

Spezzano's only post-graduate education was at Oneness University in 2007, and his record of this attendance and how it served as one of his "two greatest inspirations" alongside A Course in Miracles was systematically wiped from all SALPOV controlled websites internationally and Spezzano's LinkedIn profile in the beginning of 2014. This demonstrates that control over foreign SALPOV websites originates in Hawaii. This fact brings us to the second category.

Second, the SALPOV trainers, who are included in the conditions of the Court, also violated the order. For quite some time an official SALPOV website in the United Kingdom called povevents.com, administered by trainer Avril Woodward, claimed that "CHUCK SPEZZANO is one of the world's leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy."

This website, which also advertised Spezzano's personal consultations for over $1100 an hour, was pulled in December 2014. It is hard to believe these online promotions could exist without approval from the Spezzanos given the international uniform deletion of Oneness University mentions.

Images are attached.

Also, Spezzano's Healing Keys co-author, British Columbia resident Janie Ticehurst, who apparently had exclusive posting rights to one of his videos (since deleted from online viewing), described Spezzano as a "psychologist" on her webpage (also deleted, including from Internet Archive!). Her husband Julian, another former SALPOV trainer and the author of her webpage, admitted Chuck was not a psychologist but kept the fabrication up for the public to see anyway for quite some time.

Image attached.

Third, and worst of all, the ripple effect. Uncritical minds will spread the "Spezzano is a psychologist" lie without investigation. Type the query "chuck spezzano" and "psychologist" and then peruse the Net. Spezzano-worshipper Arielle Essex even calls him a "clinical psychologist." Since so many SALPOV wannabe spinoff business enterprises have been created by students of Spezzano, it is to their advantage to claim their mentor is more than he is.

To dismiss all this as "Nothing at all" is deflection and denial. I think the State of Hawaii needs to revisit this case.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 19, 2015, 02:39:39 pm
As a PS to the last post, I would also invite the reader to Google the terms "Chuck Spezzano" and "psychologe" since much of his marketing is in Central Europe.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on July 26, 2015, 12:56:12 am
Last month Chuck Spezzano posted this:

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AGEMAN
AGEMAN (ah gay mann) is the card for today. It is a Japanese word that is slang for a person who through sex brings good luck or to put it as my Japaneses men friends put it, it means "lucky pussy". Today is a day of good luck from sex. Enjoy!!
Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

Now this:

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SAGEMAN is the card for today. It is a japanese word that means a woman who brings bad luck in sex. It is slang for 'bad luck pussy."Today where we have been touched by this, attracted to this or passing this on, we can be free of it. It is a simple thing to turn our sex life over to Heaven for purifying. This gets rid of the guilt and the attraction to it and thus brings so much more love, meaning and enjoyment to sex. Have a happy day!!!
Posted 5 days ago by Chuck Spezzano

Japanese slang dictionaries online show how derogatory this term is. Chuck Spezzano continues his pattern of aggressive, bullying, sexualized "humor".

 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 28, 2015, 02:37:16 am
Hmm.
   
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What Is The Nature of The Relationship Between Psychology of Vision And Oneness University?

There is no relationship between the two organizations. Some of us attended healing programs there years ago, but for a number of reasons it felt true to me to distance Psychology of Vision from Oneness U. For about a year after making that decision, I stated in my seminars that I did not recommend that people attend their programs.

Lency Spezzano, The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision
http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/ (http://the-truth-about-chuck-and-lency-spezzano.com/what-is-the-nature-of-the-relationship-between-psychology-of-vision-and-oneness-university/)

Then how does she explain this?

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Hi everybody, aloha..just back from hawai... has been great...this mastery thing goes on... i am surprised, what happens...feels like miracles... spezzanos got authorized to initiate Oneness Blessing Givers, and we were the first group to receive that honour from spezzanos... title of the seminar was: "restoring guidance" cant help, think, there is lot of guidance all around... wherever you look, even in the last corner of the world, (Hawai!)... so much guidance, helps us to evolve our master piece... mahalo, and merry christmas

Michael Schöffmann
December 20, 2009
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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 01, 2015, 05:51:04 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 7


We have three more entries, all of them examples of Chuck Spezzano's efforts to further his for-profit ambitions into the German market.

Chuck Spezzano und Elke Kirchner
Filmed around the spring of 2015. 13:42 minutes.
https://vimeo.com/125750799 (https://vimeo.com/125750799)

This interview was covered by our own Ingeborg in two parts:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40820#msg40820 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg40820#msg40820)

Anne-Kathrin Koch
Like so many other unqualified Psychology of Vision trainers Koch has started her own SALPOV spinoff commercial enterprise. She recently created some Youtube outreach videos.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJfV7UVmvGmRk4gN-tG-Qtg/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJfV7UVmvGmRk4gN-tG-Qtg/videos)

Dr. Chuck Spezzano: Partnerschaft und spirituelles Leben
July, 2015
A softball interview by Brita C. Dahlberg with Spezzano that includes Torsten Konrad serving as interpreter, all of which is basically an advertisement for Spezzano's high-fee events. In the course of promoting his upcoming "workshops" Chuck reveals his very traditional view of gender roles in relationships and his view that you are a nobody unless you are in an intimate relationship. The use of humor is discussed in a very humorless way although Spezzano does manage to slip in a lewd joke, one of his trademarks. 35 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zg3t7wDfDE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zg3t7wDfDE)

After watching this entire interview, I think here is where Spezzano's head is stuck, a mindset that existed a half century ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbusN-n8rE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbusN-n8rE)

So much for being "cutting edge."
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 25, 2015, 03:20:00 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 6


Jordan Kao
Two short videos with music. One presents scenes from a Hawaii training in 2013, including shots of the Spezzano property and "barn." Another visually documents  a 2012 Thailand SALPOV event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4)

Visionworks for Life
Jeff Allen promotes an upcoming workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM)

Thailand 2012 is a big cash cow! The greed factor for participants is groundbreaking! To hoodwink these many people at once must of boosted chunk and lunacy's sense of self success!  :-X
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 25, 2015, 03:28:56 pm
Last month Chuck Spezzano posted this:

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AGEMAN
AGEMAN (ah gay mann) is the card for today. It is a Japanese word that is slang for a person who through sex brings good luck or to put it as my Japaneses men friends put it, it means "lucky pussy". Today is a day of good luck from sex. Enjoy!!
Posted Yesterday by Chuck Spezzano

Now this:

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SAGEMAN is the card for today. It is a japanese word that means a woman who brings bad luck in sex. It is slang for 'bad luck pussy."Today where we have been touched by this, attracted to this or passing this on, we can be free of it. It is a simple thing to turn our sex life over to Heaven for purifying. This gets rid of the guilt and the attraction to it and thus brings so much more love, meaning and enjoyment to sex. Have a happy day!!!
Posted 5 days ago by Chuck Spezzano

Japanese slang dictionaries online show how derogatory this term is. Chuck Spezzano continues his pattern of aggressive, bullying, sexualized "humor".

 
[/quote]Chunk can't help but diminish the female being over and over again! He is all about dominating the female anyway he can and always turns it into a joke and putting it on the female to rise above it. No wonder his haggard looking wife continues to dwindle before our eyes looking more like a worn down exhausted vessel for his further manipulations and mindfucks.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 25, 2015, 03:34:35 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 6


Jordan Kao
Two short videos with music. One presents scenes from a Hawaii training in 2013, including shots of the Spezzano property and "barn." Another visually documents  a 2012 Thailand SALPOV event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4)

Visionworks for Life
Jeff Allen promotes an upcoming workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM)

Thailand 2012 is a big cash cow! The greed factor for participants is groundbreaking! To hoodwink these many people at once must of boosted chunk and lunacy's sense of self success!  :-X
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Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 25, 2015, 04:15:25 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 3

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

STATEMENT OF ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF LAW AND REASONS FOR ENTERING INTO CONSENT JUDGMENT

The STATE OF HAWAII, by its Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (hereinafter "Petitioner"), by its undersigned attorney, files this Statement of Alleged Violations of Law and Reasons for Entering in Consent Judgment pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes (hereinafter "HRS") 480-22.

Here is the text of 480-22--

Haw. Rev. Stat. § 480-22 : Hawaii Statutes - Section 480-22: Judgment in favor of the State as evidence in private action; suspension of limitation.

(a) A final judgment or decree rendered in any civil or criminal proceeding brought by the State under this chapter shall be prima facie evidence against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14, against the defendant as to all matters respecting which the judgment or decree would be an estoppel between the parties thereto. This section shall not apply to consent judgments or decrees entered before any complaint has been filed; provided that when a consent judgment or decree is filed, the attorney general shall set forth at the same time the alleged violations and reasons for entering into the consent judgment or decree. No consent judgment or decree that is entered before any complaint has been filed shall become final until sixty days from the filing of the consent judgment or decree or until the final determination of any exceptions filed, as hereinafter provided, whichever is later. During the sixty-day period any interested party covered under section 480-13 may file verified exceptions to the form and substance of the consent judgment or decree, and the court, upon a full hearing thereon may approve, refuse to approve, or may modify the consent judgment or decree.

(b) A plea of nolo contendere and a final judgment or decree rendered pursuant to that plea in any criminal action under this chapter shall not be admissible against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14 against the defendant.

(c) Whenever any civil or criminal proceeding is instituted by the State to prevent, restrain, or punish violations of this chapter, but not including an action under section 480-14, the running of the statute of limitations in respect of every private right of action arising under the laws and based in whole or in part on any matter complained of in the proceeding shall be suspended during the pendency thereof and for one year thereafter. [L 1961, c 190, §20; Supp, §205A-20; HRS §480-22; am L 1981, c 181, §1; am L 2001, c 79, §3; am L 2008, c 19, §7]


Back to the main court document--

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A. Statement of Alleged Violations of Law

1. Respondent is a resident of the State of Hawaii.
2. Respondent is not licensed with the DCCA as a psychologist.
3. On or about October 13, 1995, Respondent prepared a report regarding Steven Tipaldi and Sarah Maculum. Petitioner alleges that said report constitutes the practice of psychology and/or the representation of Respondent as a psychologist.
4. Petitioner alleges that respondent, by engaging in the above-described conduct without first obtaining a license to practice psychology from the DCCA, violated HRS 436B-27(B), 465-2, 465-15(a)(1), 465-15(a)(3), 480-2 and 487-13(a).

Here is the text of the statutes cited-

§436B-27  Civil and criminal sanctions for unlicensed activity; fines; injunctive relief; damages; forfeiture.
(b)  Any person, who engages in an activity requiring a license issued by the licensing authority and who fails to obtain the required license, or who uses any word, title, or representation to induce the false belief that the person is licensed to engage in the activity, other than a licensee who inadvertently fails to maintain licensing requirements under the appropriate licensing statute and who subsequently corrects the failure so that there was no lapse in licensure, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and each day of unlicensed activity shall be deemed a separate offense.

Obviously it has been too profitable for Chunk to be a fake! Why stop now? He can run around the world hoodwinking foreigners with his loaded charged psycho rap. His confession to Rob Smith on APTN Invesitigates in Canada that he is not a psychologist and should logically be followed by removing psychology from his business name and titles and lectures and workshops and most of all from his "advanced trainers". He has literally cloned his followers to live out the lie and fallacy that he and his worn down wife perpetuate.
It is time now for them all to be enjoined from acting in this deceitful manner.
Many participants especially FN believed he was a psychologist because this is how he is presenting himself. All participants should be reimbursed for false presentation and for damages incurred by being subjected to an imposter!
FN funding has been squandered on these endless workshops, steps to leadership courses and training. The "Advanced Trainers" are still worming their way into the FN coffers on reserves in B.C. Canada selling and pushing POV.
 Who is monitoring the innocent victims of today?
Why should this be allowed to continue when it has been established what C & L are really up to?



§465-2  License required.  Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, it shall be unlawful to represent one's self as a psychologist or engage in the practice of psychology without having first obtained a license as provided in this chapter. [L 1967, c 290, pt of §1; HRS §465-2; am L 1971, c 84, §2; am L 1985, c 115, §4]

§465-15  Prohibited acts; penalties.  (a)  No person shall:
(1)  Use in connection with the person's name any designation tending to imply that the person is a licensed psychologist unless the person is duly licensed and authorized under this chapter;
(3)  Advertise or make a representation, either publicly or privately, as being a psychologist, licensed or otherwise, or as being able to perform professional services described in section 465-1, except as otherwise provided in this chapter, without having a valid unrevoked license or temporary permit issued by the director;

§480-2  Unfair competition, practices, declared unlawful. 
(a)  Unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce are unlawful.
(b)  In construing this section, the courts and the office of consumer protection shall give due consideration to the rules, regulations, and decisions of the Federal Trade Commission and the federal courts interpreting section 5(a)(1) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 45(a)(1)), as from time to time amended.
(c)  No showing that the proceeding or suit would be in the public interest (as these terms are interpreted under section 5(b) of the Federal Trade Commission Act) is necessary in any action brought under this section.
(d)  No person other than a consumer, the attorney general or the director of the office of consumer protection may bring an action based upon unfair or deceptive acts or practices declared unlawful by this section.
(e)  Any person may bring an action based on unfair methods of competition declared unlawful by this section. [L 1965, c 129, pt of §1; Supp, §205A-1.1; HRS §480-2; am L 1987, c 274, §2; am L 1988, c 51, §1; am L 2002, c 229, §2]

§487-13  Unlicensed acts; penalties.  (a)  Any person who furnishes commodities or services for which a license, registration, or certificate is required from the department of commerce and consumer affairs or any board or commission thereunder without having such license, registration, or certificate is engaged in an unlawful act or practice and shall be subject to the penalty provided in subsection (b).
(b)  Any person who engages in an unlawful act or practice as provided in subsection (a) shall be fined by a sum not less than $500 nor more than $2,500 for each unlawful act or practice, which sum shall be collected in a civil suit brought by the office of consumer protection or the department of commerce and consumer affairs.


Let us resume with the court document--

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B. Reasons For Entering Into Consent Judgment

1. Respondent does not admit the allegations of Petitioner set forth in Section A above.
2. Respondent and Petitioner have agreed to a settlement of this matter pursuant to the terms of the attached Consent Judgment as a compromise to avoid litigation and the cost attendant thereto.
3. Restitution is not an issue in this matter.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, APR 30 2004
DENISE P. BALANAY
Attorney for Petitioner
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 25, 2015, 04:22:24 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 6


Jordan Kao
Two short videos with music. One presents scenes from a Hawaii training in 2013, including shots of the Spezzano property and "barn." Another visually documents  a 2012 Thailand SALPOV event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWljuLJDDQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsDVyJiFE4)

Visionworks for Life
Jeff Allen promotes an upcoming workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUjrZSS3UM)

Thailand 2012 is a big cash cow! The greed factor for participants is groundbreaking! To hoodwink these many people at once must of boosted chunk and lunacy's sense of self success!  :-X
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 29, 2015, 04:51:49 pm
New Age Tea Party, pt. 1

Ever since the American mid-term elections were completed in Nov. 2014, the ultra-conservative Tea Party wing of the Republican Party has been in the US media on a daily basis as they attempt to influence the 2016 Presidential election. In my effort to understand the appeal of the Tea Party, it is striking how much in common this movement and their followers have with Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV), a for-profit corporation. I suppose this premise could be applied to several of the other New Age frauds highlighted in NAFPS. Not so much in content, but in form.

I am aware the Tea Party and New Age movements are actually decentralized entities and the following characterizations will not apply to all who swear allegiance to their creeds. My subjective impressions are based on the dominant voices of those groups and how I define them. My daily dose of news media includes sources representing the entire American political spectrum and my generalizations about the Tea Party are just that-- generalizations. SALPOV is a much smaller group and easier to define, since it is basically a tightly controlled cult designed exclusively to increase the profit margin of Chuck and Lency Spezzano, two New Age grifters. 

Both the Tea Party and SALPOV are supposedly Jesus-based denials of science financially supported by vulnerable, hurt, lonely, angry and frightened people who disdain critical thinking and seek simplistic solutions to complicated problems. Both the Tea Party and SALPOV depend heavily on feeding off of fear, guilt, and greed (i.e., "abundance"). 

At first blush you would think this sounds crazy. Are not many of the followers of the New Age supposed to be into peace, love, and caring for the environmental and spiritual condition of our planet? Chuck Spezzano himself has endorsed the concept that global warming is real. He also praises President Obama. These are hardly the actions of someone who resembles the Tea Party. Right?

Wrong. At least with the Tea Party, what you see is mostly what you get. SALPOV is more devious.

Somewhere along the line around the start of Reaganism, the Spezzanos sold out their benevolent public/private nonprofit sector motives in exchange for the worship of the coin of the realm. Yes, Reaganomics made people do things they might not have done before. I never saw anyone hold up a cardboard sign asking for money until after Ron the Con was elected in 1980. And it was during the time of Reagan, when greed was openly embraced and celebrated at the expense of working people and those in need, that the Spezzano's dropped their altruistic visions like a hot coal and crossed over to the Dark Side.

In many ways, Psychology of Vision is a child of Reaganism in New Age clothing and exists today as some sort of retro holdover. Nancy Reagan even legitimized the use of a psychic and astrologer in determining her public life and possibly influencing Mr. Reagan. Most Americans today would immediately recognize SALPOV as the hokey scam that it is, which might explain why this organization depends so much on Asian and European consumers who might not be clued in to the cultural and historical red flags that are so obvious to the Spezzano's own countrymen. 

I invite you to sit down, get comfortable, and seriously consider my little treatise here. Hopefully anyone thinking about diving into the Spezzano's money trap will read this first and then retreat before investing themselves financially and emotionally into the SALPOV flim-flam.

Jesus:

In the Tea Party, the dividing line between Church and State does not exist. In their view, the United States is a Christian nation with an evangelical Protestant flavor. To them, their interpretation of the Bible is the final word when it comes to law, not the US Constitution.

SALPOV is based on A Course in Miracles (their "greatest inspiration"), which is a text supposedly dictated by Jesus Christ to Helen Schucman from 1965 to 1972. Although SALPOV tries to pass itself off as ecumenical "Oneness," their foundation rests on a copyright free ersatz Christian document of highly doubtful validity. The bottom line is, SALPOV exists on a premise of an interpretation of Jesus via Schucman and as such is a Christian-based cult. Schucman herself supposedly renounced this ACIM nonsense, according to one account. One former SALPOV trainer told me he/she thought the Spezzanos pushed the religion thing too far.

Remember, every time A Course in Miracles is cited by a SALPOV person, they are really, according to their belief, quoting Jesus as channeled by Schucman. Chuck and Lency Spezzano's declarations of allegiance to ACIM is pretty much a house built on sand. 

Sciency:

Tea Party activists tend to disdain the reality of human-caused climate change and they reject the theory of evolution in favor of the Biblical explanation of the creation of humankind. Politicians hoping to pander to Tea Party voters will preface their climate change remarks with "I'm not a scientist, but ..."

SALPOV, like a lot of other New Ager commercial profit-oriented businesses, has no problem with the denial of science (as will become more evident in the course of this post). However, they are not above cherry-picking certain terms in the scientific world in order to bamboozle the innocent. They appropriate concepts in science in much the same way they steal sacred beliefs from Hawaiian or First Nations cultures. Any sentence they or their followers use with the word "quantum" is a good example.

The following video really sums it up and is so dead-on when you apply the message to SALPOV and their worshippers: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8HeoZF9cM)

Angry, Hurt, Damaged People:

Happy, secure, serene well-adjusted folks do not sign up for the Tea Party or SALPOV. Both entities are fed by pain and unrest. The difference is that the Tea Party blames the outside world (anger), while SALPOV blames the victim (guilt).

Just look at the SALPOV testimonials-- everyone who paid the massive amounts of money required for SALPOV training started off as a self-professed vulnerable and screwed-up person, leading an unhappy existence. They allowed the SALPOV cult to define them, since individualism is considered to be a negative trait in their universe. Both movements invite the emotionally or politically disenfranchised to lose themselves as part of a bigger cause. In SALPOV, the main cause is padding the Spezzano bank account.

2012:

Whether it is the Rapture or the Mayan calendar, both movements bought into the idea that we are in some sort of endtime transition. Some home-schooled Tea Party kids I know told me they would never get a chance to drive a car because the world was going to end before they would have an opportunity to get a driver's license.

OK, I remember being a kid during the Cuban Missile Crisis and thinking the same thing-- but that was over a half century ago. And it wasn't about any "rapture," it was about real Soviet missiles.

Spezzano's little monthly letters, when read back to back, really whip up the fear factor in order to keep the flock in line, much in the same apocalyptic tone of the Tea Party. "Dodged a bullet" was a fave expression of his. Now that we are safely in 2015 I notice he has toned down his act. The predicted 2012 silliness didn't happen, I guess.

Spezzano stopped offering his monthly words of wisdom in English on his own website well over a year ago and now only releases these spiritual tidbits in German, for Central Europe is still proving to be a lucrative hunting ground for this American predator. English speakers have apparently started to wise up about his scam and that market is drying up.

PC Backlash:

Donald Trump has recently been very public in his disapproval of "political correctness." It turns out Chuck Spezzano agrees with him:

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HEALING THE HIEROPHANT is the card for today. The hierophant signifies religiosity and empty form without spirit. As such it is political correctness rather than authentic action or true being. Healing this today helps us act truly rather than just going through the motions. Have a freeing day!
Posted 25th December 2011 by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/12/healing-heirophant.html?q=correctness (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2011/12/healing-heirophant.html?q=correctness)

and

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HEALING THE SHADOW FIGURE OF THE CHARLATAN is the card for today. The feeling of being a fraud is a common experience as one reaches the area of the Dead Zone and we begin to heal the roles in our lives most of which we have been carrying since we were children. This brings authenticity and a new connectedness in relationships. A shadow is a part of us we judged, split off, typically repressed and projected out. The CHARLATAN is an attempt to fool others to get what we want such as sex, money and inclusion but any role can give us this feeling especially political correctness. Have a good day!
Posted 18th January 2013 by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/01/healing-shadow-figure-of-charlatan-is.html?q=correctness (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2013/01/healing-shadow-figure-of-charlatan-is.html?q=correctness)

and

Chuck Spezzano, April 2004. This one seems a bit discombobulated:

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Fear dictates sameness, a return to routine or a regression. Awareness calls for a significant step forward into a new way, one which naturally generates a new flow. When there is fear at the root, you start living by form instead of the spirit. This is the inauthenticity of political correctness America is so busy being proud of its pioneer roots that it’s stopped being a pioneer. The Republicans that believe the American pioneer spirit will come from building an American Empire are sadly out of step with the times. The pioneering that is to occur now is meant to be a change of consciousness that will reflect new levels of partnership and empowerment worldwide. That is what occurs after the Dead Zone stage if there is success. This alone shows the United States’ regression and move to war under the Republicans as a failure in leadership. It is the same thing a couple does when they fail to make the leap to partnership in the Dead Zone; they regress into fighting to try to bring some aliveness back to the relationship. They are frightened to face the deadness and move through into partnership.

http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v76/__show_article/_a000076-000084.htm (http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v76/__show_article/_a000076-000084.htm)

This is so drenched in irony, excuse me while I wipe my glasses.

So what happened to Chuck to make him so reactionary to the concept of political correctness? Certainly even mainstream Americans have a problem with some aspects of how this term has been applied, but Spezzano really goes out of his way to slam it. Interesting.

Us vs. Them:

Both the Tea Party and SALPOV have a strong "us vs. them" mentality and possess strict litmus tests for who is worthy of respect. "Sheeple" and "Libtards" are common dehumanizing terms in the Tea Party to describe those who do not agree with their dogma. SALPOV considers us critics to be cyber-bullies and trolls. Both groups would count me as a "hater," a rather tiresome phrase used to cut off dialogue when uncomfortable facts are raised.

SALPOV divides the world population into the "enlightened" and "unenlightened" according to one SALPOV member who corresponded with me. Since I dared to ask some questions I was obviously unenlightened. But here's the deal on that. I strive to be enlightened in the true sense of the word. In history the Age of Enlightenment was a big party celebrating reason, critical thinking, and creative expression of individualism. These are all traits the Spezzanos look down upon. SALPOV has about as much right to claim "enlightenment" as an exclusive term as the Tea Party does in saying they are the only "patriots."

More detail on this topic:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=dcd368nll9kh9i4mvokveivv80&topic=4179.msg37731#msg37731 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=dcd368nll9kh9i4mvokveivv80&topic=4179.msg37731#msg37731)

Racism:

That the Tea Party is a racist movement hardly needs any elaboration from me. Donald Trump is doing an effective job of tapping into that xenophobic, nationalistic fear-based part of the American voting public so far. I will give Trump his due. He is saying out loud what most Republicans will only say to each other in private. Tea Party type racism is pretty much out there in the open.   

SALPOV's racism is more subtle. They buy into the Louise Hay model of past-life justice, which means entire civilizations, such as Hawaiians, First Nations, and Jews deserved the genocidal treatment they got due to their own past sins. Hay even admitted this during an interview (documented on this forum). We have statements from Lency Spezzano justifying the SALPOV psychocolonization of Haida Gwaii and her description of Asian followers as not advanced enough for her sophisticated Western teachings. Section K of the German language Psychology of Vision Trainers Manual is basically a very condescending and cynical recipe for affinity fraud upon First Nations.

In Lency's "Original Mind" video (now deleted from public view) the manipulation and use of people as props is very evident. Here's a transcript:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39666#msg39666)

The Chuck Spezzano/Janie Ticehurst "Healing Metaphors" (new deleted from online view) has a roundabout relationship here, equating various congenital disorders with being a bad person. Using the Hay model, genetic birth problems such as Down's Syndrome were blamed on unresolved problems from a past life:

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Down's Syndrome

Down’s syndrome is a congenital abnormality (one that is present at birth). It is the result of having an extra chromosome in our genetic make-up, usually number 21 or 22.

Down’s causes moderate to severe mental retardation, oriental appearance of eyes, flat nose or absent bridge of nose, a single palmer [sic] crease on a short broad hand and a dwarfed body.

If we have Down’s syndrome, it means that we have come to learn some lessons at a soul level. We are here to seek soul fulfillment and the completion of a cycle, yet we are stuck in the transition between the old level and the new.

The two main soul lessons of Down’s syndrome are correcting over-willfulness and giving up the ego’s plan in exchange for heaven’s plan.

Notice the use of "oriental." Not the preferred nomenclature. Maybe outside complaints on the "Healing Keys" is one reason why Spezzano hates "political correctness" so much.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 29, 2015, 05:04:51 pm
New Age Tea Party, pt. 2

Disdained by Peers:

Both the Tea Party and SALPOV do not play well with others.

The Tea Party was given a place at the table in the Republican Party for short-term gains several years ago, but now Republicans are paying a big price for being tied to this extreme out-of-the-mainstream group. Moderate, intelligent Republicans are daily lamenting the fact their party is never going to win a national election as long as their nominee has to pander to the Far Right.

The Tea Party makes no secret that they don't want to compromise or negotiate, in essence acting like an American Taliban. These are zealous puritans and I will give them points for being consistent in this case. You can't say the same for SALPOV.

Here in NAFPS we have documented several instances of other New Age healers expressing negative opinions about the SALPOV operation. In spite of the Spezzano emphasis on "Oneness," you don't really see them reaching out and working with their business competition. A few sporadic and brief partnerships have existed in the Spezzano timeline, but for the most part their corporation has become increasingly isolated and insulated.

It is also interesting that a few of Spezzano's former associates and trainers have attempted to erase their online evidence of having a history with SALPOV.

Anti-Regulation:

Tea Party followers believe government should be dramatically limited and I have the distinct impression many of them would like to see the USA turned back to the fiscal practices of Calvin Coolidge. Never mind that these 1920s economic policies helped lead our country into the Great Depression, Coolidge is their guy. Reagan even dusted off and hung Silent Cal's portrait in the White House in the 1980s.

Needless to say, Tea Party activists bristle at many government regulations. So do the Spezzanos.

The Spezzanos have managed to craft an organization that can pretend to be professional healers, when in fact they are not, and somehow dodge the minefield of consumer-protection regulations and license requirements. Also, from my own experience I can say they picked the right state in which to set up shop. Hawaiian government is notoriously Byzantine and lax. It is sort of a miracle that Chuck Spezzano was actually nailed and fined in 2004 by Hawaii for pretending to be a psychologist.  Obviously Hawaii has done a poor job of monitoring SALPOV since 2004.

Individualism:

Both the Tea Party and SALPOV have a paradoxical relationship with the concept of individualism.

In the Tea Party, the idea of individual liberty is a prime directive. Yet politically, if anyone strays from the narrow and rigid Party line they can forget about Tea Party support. Republicans who deviate from their lockstep are called RINOs (Republican in Name Only). I suspect if their God Reagan was alive today, even he might be too liberal for them. The Tea Party strikes me as a Free Speech for Me, But Not for Thee organization. Even a politician like Jeb Bush, who is incredibly conservative by mainstream standards, is booed by Tea Party types at public events.

SALPOV, on the other hand, vilifies the idea of individualism. Yet for a dogma that demands the surrender of the ego, part of their conflicting selling point is to infuse the true believer with the idea that magical thinking (i.e. "manifesting") will circumvent whatever plan God or Fate had in store for you so you can satisfy your own selfish desires-- But only as long as you do this under the strict guidelines and incredibly expensive program as outlined by God's messenger, Chuck Spezzano.

Both organizations make me think of the Guinea Pig Bridge for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9ghmgqoyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9ghmgqoyc)

We are all subject to having our thoughts trapped in habitrails, I admit. Personal liberation requires constant work. Both the Tea Party and SALPOV want to confine your efforts in this area in order that you'll be a servant for their own interests.

Rewriting History:

Tea Party historiography consists of: If historical facts are too bothersome, just go back and change the facts. I know a home schooling Tea Party family that would not allow their child to read any history book written after the 1950s.

I was politically active before Tea Party darling Ted Cruz was born, and when I hear his interpretation of the history that I lived through I just shake my head at how he is either ignorant or an outrageous liar. 

Ever since Reagan, the number of Tea Party types showing up at library boards and demanding that certain titles be removed from the shelves (such as Vonnegut's masterpiece, Slaughterhouse-Five) has risen dramatically. See, here's the irony. They praise individual liberty, but they don't trust you to read whatever you want and come to your own conclusions. Just like they want to impose term limits on elected officials. But we already have term limits, they are called "elections." Apparently the Tea Party does not approve of or trust the democratic process. They want to decide what is best for you. Maybe they only want white male property owners to have the vote, just like the old days.

SALPOV is like the Tea Party in rewriting history, but in a passive/aggressive way. Where the Tea Party will blatantly declare a lie to be a fact, SALPOV simply tries to delete and airbrush all past references of potentially embarrassing connections. For example, Oneness University was once one of their "two greatest inspirations" and celebrated as such on their multiple websites for several years and suddenly it was gone with no explanation. That is a very significant shift. What is the story behind that? 

Most of the questions we raised about SALPOV last year still hang out there:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.345 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.345)

Both groups are doing their best to create an insulated reality and record of past events.

Shrinking Demographics:

Tea Party membership tends to be older white Protestant-raised conservative males. This is a shrinking demographic in the United States. This generation of white males were raised in their early years to think the world was at their command, but as segregation ended and the feminist movement grew, this group of males saw what they considered to be their entitled birthright evaporate before their eyes. The recent USA legalization of Gay marriage only made them even more pissed off. In their anger, they reach back to the good old days for comfort. Clowns like Donald Trump know how to tap that resentment.

No one has ever performed a scientific study on the demographics of SALPOV, so I'll write from my own observations. The cult appears to be populated by mostly affluent middle-aged women who have hit a crisis in their lives. Where are the men? SALPOV membership has been rapidly declining in the last half-decade. Why? This is a good topic for an academic thesis.

Anti-intellectual Dumbing Down:

The Tea Party's appeal to simplistic and gut-reaction solutions is easily displayed and personified by two of their heroes, Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. Both of these characters appeal to the lowest common denominator in politics. Try to have a reasonable and calm discussion with Tea Party followers about subjects like gun control, abortion, Black Lives Matter, socialized medicine, Islam, Mexican immigrants, feminism, evolution, global warming, President Obama, etc. and see how far you get before the arms cross, the brow furrows, and you make their brain hurt and they reach for a safe mental pre-recorded homily as a reply, or, their firearm.

This is the legacy of Reagan's massive cuts to education. The life of the open mind is not encouraged.

Academia is also rejected in SALPOV. Perhaps this is traced back to Chuck Spezzano's Ph.D. not actually being accredited by the APA, meaning he is not recognized as a professional. So far as I can ascertain, neither of the Spezzanos or any of their followers have submitted their "research" to peer reviewed journals in the field of psychology. Spezzano denigrates critical thinking as "anal lies." I find it interesting he has not been invited to lecture in venues of higher education. If half his claims are true, he should have the Nobel Prize by now. Hmm, yet we have documented a pop culture site like Wikipedia not deeming him worthy enough for inclusion. Go figure. 

I am pretty sure sharp-minded university and college students would make mincemeat out of Spezzano's claims had he presented his views in a give and take discussion on an academic stage. His in-person presentations are always on a pay per view basis. It's all about the money.   

Anti-Woman:

The Tea Party and SALPOV share a low opinion of women. Oh sure, they put them up on a pedestal, yada yada yada Tiger Woman bla bla bla Sarah Palin oot greet. But in the end, men are still in charge.

I'll just pass over the Tea Party here, except to say-- They are anti-choice on religious grounds. I do not happen to agree with them, but I understand where they are coming from and don't hold them in contempt for it.

In SALPOV the head honcho and CEO is Chuck Spezzano. The head of his UK spinoff is Jeff Allen. Two men. Spezzano's famous use of lewd jokes to mostly female crowds can only be viewed as sexual bullying, or perhaps I am being too "politically correct," eh? What sort of "professional" makes this a staple in his presentations?

We have in this forum documented Spezzano's belief in blaming the victim concerning rape cases in FN.

Meanwhile, Jeff Allen has dug up the 1950s in order to express the official SALPOV of a woman's place:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1039030/Fast-track-femininity-Why-competing-men-left-women-touch-feminine-side.html)

I have maintained that SALPOV is actually two cults, the Chuck cult, and the Lency cult. Now that Lency has basically retired from foreign gigs, we have seen a sharp dropoff of SALPOV trainers, particularly in the UK. Perhaps there were a lot of women out there who did not want to deal with Chuck alone. And who can blame them?

Theocracy:

That the Tea Party wants to set up a theocracy is hardly a secret. Unfortunately many of their candidates have been elected to public offices on several levels, including the US House and Senate.

SALPOV has, to my knowledge, only one trainer in a position of public authority-- Babs Stevens on Haida Gwaii. Her abuses of power and desire to force her SALPOV agenda on the rest of the island is well documented here. When she is challenged the cry of religious freedom comes up, just like from the Tea Party! It is a bogus argument used as a cover for her selfish agenda. The sooner she is removed the better off for the people on the Rock.

The division of Church and State is the issue here, not religious freedom.

The Deep End:

Both the Tea Party and SALPOV throw unqualified people into the deep end of the pool.

Sarah Palin serves as the classic example for the Tea Party. No need for me to embellish.

In SALPOV not one single person, including the Spezzanos, is professionally qualified to supply psychological healing services for anyone. Going through all the costly SALPOV training is worth about as much as a rancid bowl of bacon fat in the real world.

The frightening part is that it encourages dozens of unqualified cult followers to set up their own little imitation SALPOV as a New Age cottage industry and spread the damage.

It's All About the Money:

Let's dance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndenpP1Ic0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndenpP1Ic0)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on August 30, 2015, 09:12:43 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision
 
Part 1:


Offered below is a list of videos available online concerning the cult known as Psychology of Vision. In no particular order, I have provided the links with the source of videos. I have also added summations using the most objectivity I can muster.

APTN
http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/ (http://aptn.ca/news/2013/11/09/couple-questions-alternative-healing-groups-activities-haida-gwaii/)
This video comes and goes in terms of being available online, but it does have some informative text even without the visuals. The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network program APTN Investigates had a segment called "Plastic Healers" by Rob Smith. The program aired in early Nov. 2013. The piece presents a journalistic look at two cults active on Haida Gwaii: Erick Gonzalez, and, Psychology of Vision.

Lency Spezzano
https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LencySpezzano/videos)
These 33 videos include several "downloading/joining" sessions, testimonials, Skype advertisements, archival footage from 2001, and some personal vignettes such as her tour of (in her phrase) her "exclusive" condo at Turtle Bay, Hawaii. The "downloading/joining" videos have been reviewed, starting at this link: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39655#msg39655)

Chuck Spezzano
https://www.youtube.com/user/chuckspezzano1/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/chuckspezzano1/videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alS2eFMGG_4&list=LLaztcKASr6l8mMmJgXqQvew&index=76)
The first link includes 40 videos of Spezzano giving lectures on various topics to a stationary camera. Most of them have been commercially packaged and as a rule they include the paintings of POV follower Spar Street in the background. The second link leads to a single video, "The Year 2010," where Spezzano makes predictions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWYf2CkdkhQ
This you tube of Chunk's sexual abuse advertises to the public FN sex abuse like it's a given promo to anyone who wants to cash in and heal the natives according to their residential experiences. It's not up to Chunk to promote himself this way on the backs of victims history, it's not his business to make it public and act like he has the answer to redeem them by saying they have "a gift".

Since when did FN residential survivors start begging for white non native opportunist to save them?
This sexual abuse video is offensive to any FN people who wish to have dignity from being regarded as needy sexual victims being subjected to more colonizers with the "answer".

Who gives the right to Chunk to mess with their memories ? Until justice is served to individuals no one should be tampering with the highly sensitive traumas experienced by victims of sexual abuse, native or non native. This interference can damage any kind of recall needed in courts to settle issues of victimization.

When Chunk makes his participants spill the beans on who sexually victimizes them, does he assist these people by reporting the perpetrators? Or is all" by gones be by gones" and everyone is "innocent " again?
Chunk doesnot help help the victims, he baits them into believing they will be freed, but who is picking up the tab for the bad guy? Those perpetrators continue to get off with their sexual abuse as chunk frees these guys of any retribution. Meanwhile the victims do not get the satisfaction of turning in the guy who did this to them, instead they have to jump thru guilt ridden hoops to prove to chunk that they have a "gift"????????
Thanks but no thanks Chunk, you are not helping F Nations at all by delaying the process of TRUTH!
We want to stop the perpetrators and hold them accountable for their abusive sick actions so that the victims will be safe and can truly know what it feels like to have community that really cares about them.
Sexual offenders need to be taken to task, hiding them behind the guise of new age healing isn't going to make them go away!!!! This notion is delaying the process and allowing for more victims to be abused. Chunk has a legal obligation to report criminal  offenses to the authorities. Obviously he is having a greater profit margin from pretending "alls well in the little world of POV".
This has serious consequences for those involved. Sad for any FN person who got sucked into this mess of "forgiveness" according to Chunk's world. Sad for the victims who continue to get sexually abused as advanced trainers of pov continue to watch it happen and just say "oh, they have a gift they wanted to give but couldn't".
Sick trip Chunk!!! :'( :'( :'(

   


Psychology of Vision
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcRwg93NLWTFrgnXJb26LvA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcRwg93NLWTFrgnXJb26LvA)
Presentation of a single video, "India Apprenticeship at Bethsaida Hermitage Resort" from 2007. No narration is provided, only music.

Next Evolution 2009
https://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/nextevolution2009/videos)
Six videos mostly produced by Louisa Wu, four of them promoting a joint workshop in 2009 in Los Angeles with the Spezzanos and Guru Singh.  Oneness and the 2012 phenomenon are among the topics. Guru Singh is pictured with Oneness University in the Chuck Spezzano segment. Quite unusual in two regards. First, the Spezzanos are collaborating with another headliner, and second, the event takes place on the US mainland. Also includes a testimonial by a well known New Age guru to celebrities, Habib Sadeghi. An abridged 2007 POV promotional piece includes appearances by Susan How, Sue Allen, Jeff Allen, and Spar Street. The full version will appear below under the Inner Vision collection.

ThinkTech Hawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_wbP7m6zE)
Michael and Xiao Fang North are interviewed by Dr. Keli'i Akina in this 50-minute piece as they discuss the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute and relations with China.

Stefan Götz
https://vimeo.com/user5032547/videos/page:2/sort:date (https://vimeo.com/user5032547/videos/page:2/sort:date)
Götz interviews Chuck Spezzano in a 4-part series (combined they total one hour), "Chuck Spezzano & The Leadership Revolution," which seems to have been filmed about 2011. Spezzano uses his "anal-lies" term when discussing the "split mind" and stresses competition is fear-based and independence is negative. After a few lewd jokes and several judgemental pronouncements, Spezzano tells us it is wrong to judge. Although Götz is a friendly interviewer, he still asks several good follow up questions, which appear to put Spezzano in a defensive mood as his voice and mannerisms are more animated and shrill than usual.

World Voices
https://vimeo.com/32186185 (https://vimeo.com/32186185)
https://vimeo.com/84539619 (https://vimeo.com/84539619)
The first link is a short Skype presentation promoting the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute. The text introduction includes the often repeated error that Spezzano is a "psychologist." The second link features Spezzano's 30-minute acceptance speech in 2012 when he was awarded with the "Hero of Forgiveness" title. Among other things, he reveals that the phrase "Friends Helping Friends" came from "The Voice." He also addresses aboriginal issues mainly using Haida Gwaii as an example, and stresses how victims of white colonization, as well as women who have been raped, need to forgive those who committed these crimes against them. The concept of seeking legal justice is not addressed.

Malcolm Smith
https://vimeo.com/user1739027 (https://vimeo.com/user1739027)
Produced around 2009, eight minutes long, entitled "Experiences with Lency Spezzano and the Psychology of Vision," and includes praise for Spezzano's seminars from Smith himself plus five other people. One participant calls Lency "a window to God." Smith is a naturopathic physician in Portland, Oregon, USA. One of the tags on this video is "oneness university."

Melissa Meyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbdty7KZg0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbdty7KZg0)
Melissa Meyer's two or three APTN "First Talk" appearances promoting POV appear to have been deleted from Youtube within the last year.

Janie Ticehurst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JABEQNu18k&feature=youtu.be)
Chuck Spezzano's 2010 "Self Health" Youtube was deleted over a year ago. This was the one where he said, "You can't have health problems unless you feel guilty about something, and then at an even deeper level you can't have a health problem unless you're getting revenge on someone."

Master Sha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514nbM4nT6w)
Dr. and Master Sha gives a "soul healing" for Marianne Vermilyea, a former Canadian POV trainer and current staff member for POV, to counter her macular degeneration. Five minutes, 2013.

Elsbeth Maurer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_Toft56Ng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_Toft56Ng)
"I'm sensitive to energy, so I can feel it in crystals, I can feel it in nature ..." so says Chuck Spezzano as he supplies a commercial endorsement for Maurer's "Lovy-Heart" merchandise in this 2013 three-minute video. Produced in Switzerland.

Inner Vision
https://www.youtube.com/user/innervision222/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/innervision222/videos)
Matthew Blythe has uploaded eight videos, and six of them could possibly be classified as New Age artistic expression. The remaining two are POV promotional pieces, both created by Sutherland Productions in 2007. "Chuck and Lency Spezzano - Psychology of Vision - Trailer" is eleven minutes long. Includes appearances by Susan How, Sue Allen, Jeff Allen, Peter Shapiro, and Spar Street. An abridged version of this appeared in the Next Evolution 2009 entry above. In one part we hear Lency say "joining sessions" are now being called "Oneness sessions." The second POV promo piece, entitled "How to Have a Successful Relationship," is a 4-minute commercial for a DVD for sale. Testimonials include a statement from Jeff Allen.

Susanne Ernst
https://www.youtube.com/user/POVDACH/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/POVDACH/videos)
These are two short videos promoting POV events in Central Europe in 2012. The first has POV trainers Susanne Ernst and Mathias Keller speaking directly to the camera. The second video, which is a bit longer, contains several testimonials, including from Alexandra Angermann, Rebecca Wildi, Mathias Keller, and Susanne Ernst. In German. 

Torsten Konrad
https://www.youtube.com/user/TorstenKonrad/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TorstenKonrad/videos)
Most of the videos from this German POV trainer reflect his interest in body performance and artistic expression. However, about a half dozen of these are very static and non-creative talking head presentations where Torsten is apparently promoting a POV event or concept. I say "apparently" since my grasp of the German language is woefully minimal. The one video here I can identify that combines POV with an artistic interpretation is the 2015 "You Never Know" which is described as "Life From A Joining Session."   

Lotta Gaber
https://www.youtube.com/user/Lottchen1705/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/Lottchen1705/videos)
Gaber interviews Chuck Spezzano in this almost 5-minute video from earlier this year. A POV follower, Gaber does not subject Spezzano to any hard questions. He promotes a book he wrote about sex that has recently been translated into Swedish. In the process he mentions how metaphors and hypnosis work together. When this video was originally released it used the music of Israel "Iz" Kamakawiwo'ole but then within a few days the soundtrack was changed to something more generic.

Lauretta Hickman
https://www.youtube.com/user/LaurettaHickman/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/LaurettaHickman/videos)
Hickman, a life coach and Spezzano student, has over 40 videos online. Six of these concern POV, uploaded six years ago. In all six, Hickman is using the POV triangle as her source as she presents a lecture in German.

Django Hediger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZgYOwAxlgI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZgYOwAxlgI)
"Living Your Inner Gifts" or "Deine Gaben leben" is an 18-minute talking head presentation where Mr. Spezzano speaks in English, and Torsten Konrad translates into German. Both gentlemen are in different locations so the screenshot toggles back and forth in what seems to be a Skype generated production. Designed to promote a workshop scheduled for April 2012.

Powerful Events
https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulEvents/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulEvents/videos)
Consists of nine videos, most of them by Django Hediger as he markets POV. Some of these had formerly been enhanced by the song "Our Hearts Have Been Misplaced in a Secret Location" but for a number of reasons it felt true to the group that created and performed this piece, Uniform Motion, to distance their song from this cult. So the music has been stripped. Videos include a 9-minute Skype lecture from Chuck Spezzano on "Acceptance" (2014), where he appears to be ill. Jeff and Sue Allen promote their 2014 Spain 5 day workshop via Skype in a 5 and half minute talk which includes shots of the expensive looking accomodations. In "Herbsttour 2013," Spezzano begins by describing how his annual visits to Central Europe are basically book selling tours. He also uses his stock tale about hearing "The Voice." In the eight-minute "Die Kraft der Liebe" Skype presentation, Spezzano has Torsten Konrad sitting right behind him, providing the German translation in audio in this talk about love and "soul patterns." The conclusion of this last video is one of Spezzano's more energetic performances.

Psychology of Vision - Europa
https://www.youtube.com/user/psychologyofvision1/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/psychologyofvision1/videos)
Two videos, both of them over five minutes long, of Chuck Spezzano self-promoting his Central European tour. These were two more videos where the music of the group Uniform Motion was stripped out due to their request not to be associated with POV. In "Die Spiegel deiner Seele" (2015), Spezzano says he has been a "therapist" for 42 years and glowingly quotes "the Native American Sun Bear." In "Europatour September 2014 - Emotionale Reife," Spezzano tells us the world is filled with "intra-psychic pollution" by ignorant and unenlightened people who do not understand their own emotions.

Frankfurter Ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3evKI-ICgsQ)
On their webpage, the Frankfurter Ring repeats the frequently stated error that promotes Chuck Spezzano to the status of "psychologist." This particular video is a three minute promotion for Spezzano's appearance in Burg Rothenfels in 2014. One testimonial is included. At one point a group of people circling an evening campfire while one of them beats on what appears to be some kind of non-European aboriginal drum is portrayed.   

More to come on Part 2 ...
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 07, 2015, 12:21:50 am
Time for another Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision (SALPOV) grab-bag of miscellaneous items I have encountered over the last month or so.

--Hawaii is one of the more lax of the United States in hypnotherapy regulation, hence this Spezzano business listing. Also note the SALPOV services under "Life Coaching" dropbox includes "Psychic Reading"--

http://www.mytime.com/deals/HI/Kaneohe/Health-&-Beauty/Hypnotherapy/Spezzano-%26-Assoc/mt-U1X4C8v7WsNW_mujEQzIxA (http://www.mytime.com/deals/HI/Kaneohe/Health-&-Beauty/Hypnotherapy/Spezzano-%26-Assoc/mt-U1X4C8v7WsNW_mujEQzIxA)

--Former SALPOV trainer Doug Anderson, like so many other former SALPOV trainers, has set up his own spinoff imitation business. NAFPS readers might be interested to know he is targeting FN in partnership with former SALPOV trainer Melissa Meyer--

http://www.douganderson.ca/customized-training-for-first-nations-real-estate-agents-health-care-practitioners/ (http://www.douganderson.ca/customized-training-for-first-nations-real-estate-agents-health-care-practitioners/)

--In a recent failed attempt to edit the Psiram wiki entry on SALPOV, one of the cult followers kept deleting all references to the for-profit corporation being classified as part of the New Age. Yet one or both of the Spezzanos claim to cure diseases, perform past life regression, perform psychic readings, "download" Heaven's grace, claim to be empaths, claim to be sensitive to energy, have the ability to manifest magical thoughts, have the ability to change the weather, remotely impact the mindset of world leaders, and hear "The Voice," believe in crystal skulls, believe past life behavior creates present birth defects, all sickness traces back to guilt or a desire to exact revenge on someone, etc., etc.

The monograph Handbook of New Age (edited by Daren Kemp and James R. Lewis. -- Leiden : Brill, c2007) solidly includes SALPOV as part of that industry--

https://books.google.com/books?id=Bm-7DH2bZ8QC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22handbook+of+new+age%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAGoVChMI8JzM567jxwIVBiuICh1hyA2s#v=onepage&q=%22handbook%20of%20new%20age%22&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=Bm-7DH2bZ8QC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22handbook+of+new+age%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAGoVChMI8JzM567jxwIVBiuICh1hyA2s#v=onepage&q=%22handbook%20of%20new%20age%22&f=false)

--Interesting that Barnes and Noble classifies Chuck Spezzano's Love Pack ersatz Tarot cards as "Fortune Telling & Divination." It is pretty clear from the Facebook responses to Spezzano's Card of the Day that his cult followers clearly regard these platitudes as messages and direction from a Higher Power. Sad.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-love-pack-chuck-spezzano/1121663076?ean=9781855859357 (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-love-pack-chuck-spezzano/1121663076?ean=9781855859357)

--Chuck Spezzano informs the viewers of his Youtube Change Your Mind, Change Your Heart, Change the World, that "In the 70s I studied with psychics and shamans." Who were they? Maybe one of them is on this directory of "Shamanic healers."

https://www.shamanlinks.net/Shaman_Links.htm (https://www.shamanlinks.net/Shaman_Links.htm)

--In the monograph Spirit & Destiny Soul Secrets (edited by Emily Anderson. -- London ; Carlsbad, CA : Hay House, c2006) Chuck Spezzano contributed two pages which included his effort to focus a group on dissolving Hurricane Rita through the use of "mind, heart and spirit." Also, he writes that Taiwan is the most important country in the next half century for world peace, and that the next 7 years (probably 2005-2012) will be a "celestial speedup."

https://books.google.com/books?id=kAD1X9g_vVgC&pg=PA59&dq=%22friends+helping+friends%22+spezzano&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAmoVChMIhNm0nrvjxwIVxjiICh167gU7#v=onepage&q=%22friends%20helping%20friends%22%20spezzano&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=kAD1X9g_vVgC&pg=PA59&dq=%22friends+helping+friends%22+spezzano&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAmoVChMIhNm0nrvjxwIVxjiICh167gU7#v=onepage&q=%22friends%20helping%20friends%22%20spezzano&f=false)

--The Innersense Game, based on Spezzano's faux Tarot cards, was released in late 2001 and didn't exactly set the world on fire:

Quote
Based on The Enlightenment Pack by Chuck Spezzano, and the work of Psychology of Vision, "The Innersense Game" is designed to help people unblock their lives, solve their problems and live in a happier more fulfilled way, in a psychology-based ‘reading’ format.

To play 'Innersense' is simple. Focus on an area of your life you would like to change, or a problem you may be having and with the click of a button your insight will be revealed. Similar to Runes or the I-ching, 'Innersense' has been designed to help shed light on your problems, get you thinking about the causes which led you there and guide you to make better future choices.

Paul Manweiler, the funder and director, himself retired from a successful business career a few years ago after feeling that POV and Chuck Spezzano’s work changed his life. He has since invested his time and money in The Garden of Choice website, from which Innersense is the first creation of many future self-development tools based on the work of Psychology of Vision.

At a cost of over half a million pounds, the game was created using actors and award winning Director David Anderson, to help bring the insights contained to life. It is designed to be non-profit, with any profit made being ploughed back into the future tools created. Paul sees it as a gift back from him for all that he has been given by POV.

The Garden of Choice website, which is home to The Innersense Game, can be visited at www.garden-of-choice.com , having been officially online since December 2001.

Half a million pounds!?! This is a story that needs some elaboration.

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Harris2.html (http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Harris2.html)

http://web.archive.org/web/20020205103751/http://www.garden-of-choice.com/rc-zeus/index.adp (http://web.archive.org/web/20020205103751/http://www.garden-of-choice.com/rc-zeus/index.adp)

--Anyone who promotes a three card reading, or card of the day, or commercially sells divination cards such as SALPOV should be concerned with the recent scam exposure by the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/29/nyregion/the-secret-to-the-psychic-trade-its-in-the-parole-board-transcripts.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&module=inside-nyt-region&region=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-region&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/29/nyregion/the-secret-to-the-psychic-trade-its-in-the-parole-board-transcripts.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&module=inside-nyt-region&region=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-region&_r=0)

--It's all about the money:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 09, 2015, 04:20:57 am
OK, so yesterday someone apparently hacked into Chuck Spezzano's online world and posted this, which was displayed on Facebook:

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Chuck Spezzano
Yesterday at 4:58am · dlvr.it ·

Hi , how are you ?: hello

Do you remember me?

my profile

Hi , how are you ?
hello Do you remember me? my profile
chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com

When you go to the Spezzano blog, the same message is posted and the "my profile" portion is a hot link that leads to a commercial venue for classified ads:

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/hi-how-are-you.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/hi-how-are-you.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

http://usa.adsclass.org/ (http://usa.adsclass.org/)

This could all be due to the fact that Spezzano or one of his minions carelessly revealed some key internal email addresses in a recent "card of the day":

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-----Original Message-----
From: chuckspezzano <chuckspezzano@aol.com>
To: blogchuck <blogchuck@chuckandlencyspezzano.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2015 12:23 pm
Subject: HEALING BEING CUT OFF AND ALOOF

HEALING BEING CUT OFF AND ALOOF
is the card for today. This is where we can't give, receive or enjoy. This makes all of our work harder and our life more difficult. We are caught in a vicious circle of superiority-inferiority and underneath it all we are afraid. This is a good day to turn this all over to Heaven for undoing and the bonding that would bring ease success and intimacy…Have an amazing day!!
Posted 5 days ago by Chuck Spezzano

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/fwd-healing-being-cut-off-and-aloof.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/fwd-healing-being-cut-off-and-aloof.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

The Spezzanos or their staff usually take awhile to catch up to spam on their social networks. Not exactly a great business example to follow. 

But what I found amusing about this whole thing is that on the Facebook page this spam message was "liked" by 29 people, including a SALPOV trainer, and gained fawning comments from eight folks. I guess critical investigation is not highly valued among the SALPOV cult followers. This isn't the first time I have seen this mindless lockstep of admiration in response to a spam invasion on SALPOV territory. I suppose that is one of the many reasons why SALPOV can be considered a cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt87mXL_ftg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt87mXL_ftg)

This hack does make one wonder about the security of the SALPOV database. If I had been a SALPOV client with my personal information stored in a computer, I'd be a bit nervous by now. 

As I patched together the links for this post I saw a somewhat ironic reference in another recent Spezzano "card of the day" that I cannot resist allowing to pass without comment:

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LETTING GO OF PIPE DREAMS
LETTING GO OF PIPE DREAMS
is the card for today. A 'pipe dream' is a place we are living in fantasy hoping that something will change because something outside us changed like winning the lottery. But today is a day to make things happen because things changed inside. Today is a day to let that go because the pipe dream is impeding progress…Have a most wonderful day!!
Posted 2 days ago by Chuck Spezzano


http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/letting-go-of-pipe-dreams.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2015/09/letting-go-of-pipe-dreams.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

Anyone who has read The Iceman Cometh by Eugene O'Neill, one of the greatest plays written by an American, will recognize the parallel between the use of the term "pipe dream" between Chuck Spezzano and one of the play's main characters Theodore (Hickey) Hickman-- two flashy salesmen out to make a buck who leave a trail of destruction as they encourage people to let go, even though they possess no professional qualifications or assurances of qualified aftercare. Ultimately Hickey and Spezzano are revealed as being out of touch with reality.

But I have to wonder, how is a "pipe dream" different from the Spezzano concept of "manifesting" (i.e. magical thinking)? It has been reported to me that Spezzano has allegedly encouraged his workshop participants to go forth and gamble because they have been blessed by his teachings. "O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive." What mixed up messages!

Run away from Psychology of Vision. As fast as you can. It is all bullshit.

Images captured (before they are erased) and attached for those who are signed in.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 28, 2015, 03:58:02 pm
Documents About Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision--

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/ (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/)



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 03, 2015, 01:35:18 am
I guess this is why it is called re-search. Something that has been under my nose for a long time suddenly became odiferous again and deserves a serious second look.

Such is the case with the Haida Gwaii SALPOV cult followers application for a free ride at the expense of others. As I scanned it for another website, I couldn't help but notice a few details I had overlooked in the first perusal:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/ngystle-society-healthy-humans.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/ngystle-society-healthy-humans.html)

The very first page in the application states that healing will begin with none other than "experienced international trainer and leader, Barbara Stevens."
As far as I can ascertain, Stevens is a self-serving hack with zero professional healing credentials. I'm told she cries at public meetings when she doesn't get her way. Wow. What leadership skills. Psychology of Vision only counts as professional training to the gullible and desperately damaged. To the rest of the world, it is pretty much viewed as a scam. Babs Stevens has as much professional authority to perform healing ceremonies as I do, and I am just a normal guy on the street.

In one page of this document, Babs herself mentions using "Oneness Blessings," which seems to be in contradiction of Lency Spezzano's strong denial of the influence of Oneness University on SALPOV cult theology.

It is interesting how so many testimonials in this document are merely cookie cutter statements with only the name as the unique identifier. So tell me again how this is not a cult where the mindless march in goosestep to orders which must be obeyed at all times?

Also interesting is how the term "mind map" is used without any real definition.

As long as the Psychology of Vision cult has a grip on Haida Gwaii leaders who are unable to distinguish the difference between church and state, that poor island will be ruled by people who are willing to tear down all that is sacred, special, and unique about that culture.

It's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndenpP1Ic0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndenpP1Ic0)


 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 09, 2015, 03:23:45 pm
A new blog in German has been launched promoting Chuck Spezzano and his line of commercial merchandise. If I am understanding the language correctly, he has been once again erroneously assigned with a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. Since Hediger is behind this and the page is plastered with POV symbols, we can only assume this false biography has been granted official blessing.

http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/ (http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/)



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 10, 2015, 11:27:48 pm
This blatant misrepresentation of Spezzano's academic credentials, as demonstrated in the Hediger example in previous post, is pretty standard for Psychology of Vision autobiography. OK, "blatant misrepresentation" is actually a fancy way of saying "it's a lie."

The real deal on Chuck Spezzano's academic degree has been covered many times here on NAFPS, including here:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37693;topicseen#msg37693)

Also, it has been covered at this outside link:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/charles-lee-spezzano-ph-d-in_28.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/charles-lee-spezzano-ph-d-in_28.html)

It wasn't that long ago that the povevents website called Spezzano "The World's Greatest Psychologist." Let me remind the readers he was fined by Hawaii a decade ago for pretending to be psychologist when in fact he was far from even qualifying for a license to be one.

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/state-of-hawaii-v-charles-l-spezzano.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/state-of-hawaii-v-charles-l-spezzano.html)

Spezzano also claims on LinkedIn and the POV website that his Ph. D. is in "Counselling Psychology." That is NOT what it says on his thesis. 

Why does he not have to face consequences for marketing his product while faking his credentials?

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on October 12, 2015, 03:54:44 pm
A new blog in German has been launched promoting Chuck Spezzano and his line of commercial merchandise. If I am understanding the language correctly, he has been once again erroneously assigned with a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. Since Hediger is behind this and the page is plastered with POV symbols, we can only assume this false biography has been granted official blessing.

http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/ (http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/)

Here is a translation of the intro page:

http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/

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Relationship expert and bestselling author

Chuck Spezzano has a Masters in Sociology and received a doctorate in Clinical Psychology at United States International University, San Diego, California. From 1973 to 1979 he worked as a psychologist at the „United States Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center“ and had substantial success in treating war traumata of Vietnam veterans. Subsequently, he worked in the field of counseling couples and families. In more than 30 years of groundbreaking research, he developed the cutting edge therapeutic healing method of „Psychology of Vision“ with his wife Lency, the combination of classical psychology and spiritual principles. It leads persons beyond conflicts within their psyche to true creativity and to a meaningful life. His books, among them „If it hurts, it isn't love“, have been translated into many languages.

From the imprint, the site and blog are run and maintained by „Hediger & Hediger GbR“ with both Django and wife Bianca acting as its representatives; they are also responsible for the site content according to their own words.

Django does not seem to be aware that wrongfully characterising Spezzano as a Dr of „clinical psychology“ is an infringement of competition law in Germany, so competitors, professional organisations, or consumer organisations may present him and Spezzano with an action for an injunction.

The site is also advertising events with Spezzano in various European countries as well as one seminar in Hawaii. In 2016, lectures and seminars with Spezzano are planned in the following European countries: Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt/Main, Munich, Allgäu region, Karlsruhe, Rothenfels, Kiel, Lüneburg, Mettmann), Italy (Bolzano), and Sweden.

The event(s) in Sweden have not been fixed as of yet, as there is no place and date mentioned. They will be organised by Lotta Gaber who lives in Munich but as the sites advises is a Swedish citizen. Gaber has already been covered in this thread ( http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg39606#msg39606  ); she started 'teaching' an STL course in March 2015 and is an alternative healer.

Events in Berlin, Kiel, and Lüneburg will be organised by Elke Kirchner who was mentioned in this thread before ( http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg41078#msg41078  ); she has assisted her husband Philip Young aka Philip Kansa aka "Spirit Bear" in his 'work' as a fake shame-on since several years (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0  ), and cooperated with Katchinas Kutenai (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=617.0   ) .

Kirchner along with the other event organisers gets introduced on the site:
http://www.chuckspezzano.de/regionale-veranstalter/

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Since 2015, Elke Kirchner has been active as an organiser for Chuck Spezzano in Lüneburg and Kiel. As a person who has been associated with Chuck's work since many years, she is always glad to inspire „the North“.

The event in Italy takes place in the town of Bolzano which is in the South Tyrol region. It is being organised by Thea Unteregger.
The intro on Unteregger says more about Spezzano than it does about her:

http://www.chuckspezzano.de/regionale-veranstalter/

Quote
Since many years, Chuck is a guest of Thea Unteregger / Montessori.coop in Bolzano in Italy (South Tyrol) and gives fascinating lectures and seminars.

Apparently, Unteregger has been active as a regional organiser for quite some time. The other important info is that Unteregger is part of a Montessori parents' coop, and her intro also makes use of the coop logo, giving the intro the air of an official cooperation between PoV and the coop. Further googling reveals that Unteregger uses this coop to promote PoV and PoV trainers, quite in line with PoV rules:

http://www.montessori.coop/news/

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What I really want!
Evening and Weekend Seminar with Susanne Ernst
[…]
Lecturer: Susanne Ernst, Psychology of Vision Trainer and Aikido teacher
Date and Place Evening Seminar: Friday, Oct 9, 2015, 6-9 pm, Kolping House Bolzano
Fee: € 25.00
Weekend seminar: Friday Oct 9 – Sunday Oct 11, 2015 […]
Fee: € 205 for payments before Sept 30, 2015; payment from Oct 1, 2015: € 230
Emphasis added by me

Interestingly, the event will take place at the premises of a Catholic association particularly concerned with educating adolescents and young adults:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolping-Bildungswerk

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Kolping Educational Institute is active in social work and socio-paedagogical aid for disadvantaged adolescents:
Advancement of education at school and workplace
Employment of particularly disadvantaged persons combined with socio-paedagogical and other aids
social integration of adolescents and young adults
open educational work
support of integration of persons with special needs in work and at workplace

Although these are the aims of German Kolping Institute, the Italian ones will be similar enough to observe that this might not quite be the clientele one would particularly like to have exposed to PoV.

Unteregger will also do a seminar under the auspice of the Montessori coop:

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And I am on friendly first names with myself. Tracing the inner dialogue
Evening seminar with Thea Unteregger

We constantly talk to ourselves. Nobody else can listen. We can spoil ourselves with nicknames and compliments. But often, we do quite the contrary: we tell ourselves off, blame ourselves as too slow, too stupid and too fat, we are impatient and hard.
This evening is meant to inspire us to create our own inner dialogue more lovingly and lighthearted and even to smile at ourselves now and then.
Lecturer: Thea Unteregger, paedagogue in adult education, Montessori paegagoue, NLP Master
Time: Wednesday Oct 21, 2015, 8-9.30 pm, Kolping House Boen
Fee: € 10.00
Emphasis added by me

So another Kolping House... From what I saw in Google results, Unteregger holds a job in a museum as a paedagogue, but I could not verify whether she is in fact entitled to claim to be a paedodgue in adult education or in Montessori paedagogics. It is, however, interesting that she also claims an NLP Master. In combination with PoV this indicates that she has learned several ways of influencing clients and audiences.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 21, 2015, 03:28:31 pm
The Frankfurter Ring is advertising Spezzano as a "Psychologist" again this season, if I am not mistaken:

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Psychologe und visionärer Lebenslehrer, Familienberater und Bestsellerautor. Zusammen mit seiner Frau Lency entwickelte er im Verlauf ihrer mehr als 40-jährigen therapeutischen Praxis die "Psychology of Vision", eine Verbindung der klassischen Psychologie mit spirituellen Prinzipien.

http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10726#beschreibung (http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10726#beschreibung)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on October 21, 2015, 04:17:30 pm
The Frankfurter Ring is advertising Spezzano as a "Psychologist" again this season, if I am not mistaken:
http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10726#beschreibung (http://www.frankfurter-ring.de/index.php?id=6&kid=10726#beschreibung)

Here's the translation of the ad by Frankfurter Ring:

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Psychologist and visionary life coach [literally: life teacher], family counselor, and best selling author. With his wife Lency he developed "Psychology of Vision", a combination of classical psychology with spiritual principles, during more than 40 years of therapeutical work/practice.

So FR do not only advertise him as a psychologist, they also speak of a therapeutical practice for over 40 years. Neither relies on facts. In the same way, PoV is not based on "classical psychology", nor do they combine it with "spiritual principles".

All this is so much against the facts that any competitor, or an official consumer protection outfit, are in a position to present them with a cease-and-desist letter for violating fair trade laws.


The latter in German translation to broaden the impact:

Der Absatz ist so erheblich gegen die Fakten formuliert, daß ein Wettbewerber oder auch eine Verbraucherschutzorganisation eine Abmahnung schicken kann, da hier unlauterer Wettbewerb vorliegt.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 21, 2015, 04:51:49 pm
It is my understanding that one of SALPOV trainers on Haida Gwaii has been describing the critics of the cult as "evil." Apparently she forgot these words by her guru Lency Spezzano:

Quote
You recognize that all the evil you have seen outside yourself is just the projection of your own guilt.

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.com/LencyFemininePower.htm)


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 23, 2015, 11:33:41 pm
The culture the Spezzanos have tapped into while casting their wide net. Hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOavbyDKSi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOavbyDKSi0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5mbBDRAdw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5mbBDRAdw)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 24, 2015, 01:31:06 am
Chuck Spezzano Cures Cancer and Hemorrhoids:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/chuck-spezzano-cures-cancer-and.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/chuck-spezzano-cures-cancer-and.html)

Why does he not have a Nobel Prize by now? I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Epiphany on November 08, 2015, 06:16:12 pm
Chuck Spezzano is marketed as a "Hawaiian Shaman" in Germany. This is unethical and he needs to stop. Claiming that he cannot control what his people do is no excuse. If Chuck is unable to direct his people to uphold truth in advertising, why on earth would we pay Chuck to teach us about communication and honesty?
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Ingeborg on November 10, 2015, 03:35:35 pm

This is where Spezzano gets advertised as a „Hawaiian shaman“:

http://www.questico.de/magazin/spiritualitaet/interview_mit_chuck-spezzano.do#.Vi0Rm5d39C0

The site publishes an interview with Spezzano, providing some details in an info-box at the right hand side where it says:
„Chuck Spezzano has a doctorate in Clinical Psychology, he is a Hawaiian Shaman, and already authored 35 books on issues like love, relationship, and success [...]“

The site belongs to a company by the name of Questico.
Here's an excerpt of what our friends at Psiram say about Questico:

https://www.psiram.com/ge/index.php/Questico

Questico AG [corporation] is an enterprise in the field of „spiritual life counseling“. The company claim they have 2,500 „counselors“ offering horoscopes, card reading, clairvoyance, angel contacts, and astrological counseling. Questico provides horoscopes for a major part of the German yellow press and operates Astro TV and, in Russian and Polish languages, Kosmica TV.

Founded in the year 2000, Questico AG at times was among the fastest growing companies in Germany. The idea came from the USA. Founders were Bryan Leppi and Dieter Lang who developed the idea of Quantico in a San Francisco bar; two further partners joined.

Questico AG also cooperates with various print, TV, and online media in the fields of marketing and provides items to various programmes of the regional sections of several private owned TV stations (SAT1, Neun Live, RTL World).

They also own the call-in station Astro TV and the monthly magazine „Zukunftsblick“ (80,000 copies).
Most important activity is „life counseling“ per phone. In 2007, when Questico was about to be sold, the company had a turnover of € 60 million. Main shareholder is financial investment company Wellington Partners owning 60.59% of the company. The remaining percentage is owned by the four founders and further investors.
Astro TV is broadcast via satellite Astra in Europe.
Questico meanwhile is owned by Adviqo AG.

Rehab counselors criticise the company since it exploits vulnerable persons. The first phone call is free of charge, all following calls will cost between € 1 and € 3 per minute. Questico will keep 40% of this amount while passing the rest on to the respective „counselors“. A number of cases have been made public in which persons ran up substantial debts due to frequent calls to Questico. One client of Astro TV paid some € 38,000 to Questico. Eventually, she had to spend her bank savings of € 21,000, apply for a credit of € 13,000, and loan some more € 1,400 from other persons seeking help. Vulnerable persons in critical situation may develop dependancies towards counseling which claims to provide information on future events. Consumer protection organisations and media supervisors therefore sharply criticise Questico's machinations.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on November 17, 2015, 03:09:10 am
Recently an interview with Chuck Spezzano came to my attention. I am not an expert in German, but I recognize a snowjob in any language when I see it. This post had some interesting details.

Spezzano granted an interview, apparently last summer, with Gesund. The interview was published in German. Here's the link:

http://gesund-dasmagazin.de/artikel/dr-chuck-spezzano-arbeitet-weltweit-erfolgreich-mit-seiner-therapie-der-%E2%80%9Evision%C3%A4ren (http://gesund-dasmagazin.de/artikel/dr-chuck-spezzano-arbeitet-weltweit-erfolgreich-mit-seiner-therapie-der-%E2%80%9Evision%C3%A4ren)

Here it is in English:

With world-wide success, Dr Chuck Spezzano works with his therapy of „Visionary Psychology“

He is a doctor of psychology and a visionary of holistic healing concepts. Until now, he authored 35 books and is a guru and companion for many thousand persons world-wide thinking spiritually: US citizen Dr Chuck Spezzano, born in New York state, but Hawaiian and cosmopolitan of choice since many years.

He comes to Europe several times every year to teach his philosophy in seminars of several days' duration.

We are sitting on the terrace of a hotel in the idyllic town of Marktheidenfeld on the river Main. Together with his wife Lency – whose family by the way originally came from the vicinity of Hanau – he will do a seminar on nearby Burg Rothenfels. „This time we again have a lot of couples, but also some very ill persons looking for an impulse for healing in our seminars“, „Doc“ Spezzano reports. Not affected by the caprice of weather around us, the American – who on principle will only be seen wearing his colorful Hawaiian shirts – spreads his world view in front of us. His doctrine, published in millions of copies world-wide, the „Psychology of Vision“, is based on three main elements: relationships, leadership qualities, and spirituality.

Spiritual Healing

Interview with Dr Chuck Spezzano

GESUND: What do these three basis elements mean within your doctrine?

Dr Spezzano: It is essential to heal all relationships in our life. Because this mental healing decides our happiness in life. It either makes us thrive or makes us wither. Leadership qualities – this term only too often has negative connotations. But I understand it as an inner strength manifesting in outward actions. To be able to help others is an effective way to help ourselves. Commitment and operational performance for a social community takes strong minds. Spirituality stands for the goal of our way in life. We need to recognize ourselves as spiritual beings, not just as intellectual beings in this universe.

G: How did you discover this path of therapy?

S: I am a trained doctor of psychology. My holistic way of therapy I slowly worked out with the Navy and in meeting many soldiers addicted to drugs. I also practiced hypnosis and NLP (Neurolinguistic Programming). My encounters and my own therapy work with many shamans have gone into these development processes, too. My vision always was there must be a quick, easy-to-learn and simple access to our subconscious. Then one day I read the book „A Course in Miracles“. And there was everything I had sensed and reviewed myself: this life is about love, and above all about relationships. This was the key. From then on, my wife Lency and I developed our own therapy which we spread worldwide.

G: What is your therapeutic approach? How does Psychology of Vision help me when I'm ill, or when I have problems on the job or in my private life?

CS: Same as every other physician or therapist, I do a detailed anamnesis. I take my time talking to seminar participants. Some years ago, a very old woman with a tumor the size of a football came to my seminar. I talked to her about her life for a long time. Just taking the time listening to her. This revealed that, already during her childhood, she had to deal with brutality and sexual abuse which continued during her marriage and in other relationships. Her relationships – to me they were the key for the therapeutic approach and for the old lady, they were the key to healing. It was necessary to reprocess the nearest human contacts of her childhood, and that's what we did. A few weeks later, her tumour was reduced to the size of a tennis ball and then shrank even more. Unsolved psychological conflicts in relationships cause illness. Even decades later.

G: Does your success also base on your own experience?

CS: That's exactly so. Before I met my wife Lency, I always had difficult, destructive relations. When I developed my therapy it was clear that I had to go back into my own relationships mentally and emotionally, in particular the primordial one to my parents. During the complete time I felt the pain of my childhood and was able to heal it. - You see, this still causes a few tears with me today... (short pause of thinking). But these don't cause negative, afflicting emotions any longer. Just emotions for my parents.

G: Dear Dr Spezzano, I thank you for this conversation.

CS: May I add something personal?

G: Please do!

CS: Take off this beautiful ring you wear on your pinkie. When you wear a tight ring on that finger all the time, this is no good energy for your heart meridian which goes exactly through this finger. The energy of the heart, the most important energy we have, cannot flow freely this way. Just a little hint...

/Andrea Thoma

Notes:

"He comes to Europe several times every year to teach his philosophy in seminars of several days' duration." But mostly he comes to sell his books. Spezzano tailors his seminars to wrap around the topic of whatever latest book he is trying to sell. He admitted this in one of his Youtube appearances.

"He is a doctor of psychology" from a school that was unaccredited by the APA and the ersatz degree prevented him from ever qualifying for being officially licensed as a "psychologist." The State of Hawaii nailed Spezzano in 2004 for pretending to be a psychologist, yet the fake description of his credentials is heralded in many merchandising and promotional sites to this day, especially in Germany. Chuck Spezzano profits from false advertising.

"I am a trained doctor of psychology." His degree is not medical, nor is it accredited. In the USA he is very far from being considered a real psychologist.

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/charles-lee-spezzano-ph-d-in_28.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/charles-lee-spezzano-ph-d-in_28.html)

"I also practiced hypnosis and NLP (Neurolinguistic Programming)." Spezzano has admitted using hypnosis in the past. Although several of Spezzano's spinoffs have credited Spezzano with using NLP, this is the only case I have seen where he himself is so clear about having employed this pseudoscience.

"My encounters and my own therapy work with many shamans have gone into these development processes, too." This is not the first time Spezzano has brought up these "shamans" he supposedly studied with, but never have any of them been named. Who were they?

"Same as every other physician or therapist, I do a detailed anamnesis." Spezzano is certainly not qualified to be a physician or therapist and he insults these occupations by insinuating his way into their ranks.

"Some years ago, a very old woman with a tumor the size of a football came to my seminar. I talked to her about her life for a long time. Just taking the time listening to her. This revealed that, already during her childhood, she had to deal with brutality and sexual abuse which continued during her marriage and in other relationships. Her relationships – to me they were the key for the therapeutic approach and for the old lady, they were the key to healing. It was necessary to reprocess the nearest human contacts of her childhood, and that's what we did. A few weeks later, her tumor was reduced to the size of a tennis ball and then shrank even more. Unsolved psychological conflicts in relationships cause illness. Even decades later."

This matches closely with his tale on his Youtube, Can AIDS Be Healed:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/can-aids-be-healed.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/can-aids-be-healed.html)

"I got started with this because a good friend of mine who was in her late 60s when I was a young man, she had this inoperable cancer, she had a tumor as big as a rugby ball, and in one healing exercise, in a workshop, it went from the size of a rugby to the size of a softball. And it was still inoperable. Six months later she met her first doctor who had sent her to an oncologist and he looked at her and said, "What are you doing still alive?" And then he realized what he had said and then she began to tell him, "Well, I'm working with nutrition and I'm doing spiritual healing and I'm doing psychological ..." And he goes, "Don't tell me, just whatever you're doing, keep doing it." because he just couldn't believe this woman was still alive."

Who was she? Documentary proof please.

Spezzano can have his cake and eat it too here. He can claim he doesn't cure cancer himself "people cure themselves" yet he says his methods are what saved them. If they fail to be cured it is their fault, not his. But if they are cured, he can rush in to claim credit.

Check out the "Healing Metaphors" for more Louise Hay style blame the victim guilt trips by Chuck Spezzano:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/healing-metaphors-z.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/healing-metaphors-z.html)

Like the Trainers Manual, it is interesting what Psychology of Vision will reveal in German but not in English. I wonder why?



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on November 19, 2015, 02:40:08 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 9

Lotta Gaber

Interview with Chuck Spezzano and Lotta Gaber. 3:08 min.
http://www.chuckspezzanoworkshop.com/interview/ (http://www.chuckspezzanoworkshop.com/interview/)

Be sure to use the "EN" language option. The "SV" option takes you to a flower shop advertisement?!

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on November 21, 2015, 02:26:11 am
Calling out the Spezzanos

Two European promoters of Chuck Spezzano have recently awarded him with a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology as they merchandise his workshops. I assume these publicity folks get a cut of the $$$ action from this false advertising so there is no real incentive to tell the truth, a truth that is much more boring.

As we know, Spezzano is not even a "psychologist" much less a "clinical psychologist." He was fined in Hawaii for pretending to be a psychologist. His academic qualifications fall way too short for him to even begin to qualify for a psychologist license in Hawaii.

This form of commercial promotion is a lie. Misleading advertising. People will come to his events expecting to hear from a real professional psychologist. Chuck Spezzano is not a psychologist.  It would be more accurate to promote him as a "coach" who got a degree in the unemployable and APA unaccredited degree of "Professional Psychology" from a third rate private college and after graduating he went up and down the coast drumming himself as a "psychic" until he hit upon the healing scam as a more profitable option. In short, he's a con artist who exploits his bargain basement Dr. and Ph.D. titles for all he can. He isn't called "Chuckster the Huckster" for nothing.

Two recent examples:

Django Hediger is a Spezzano promoter who no doubt gets a cut of the action. His cult-worship fanpage says Chuck has a degree in clinical psychology. This is a lie:

http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/ (http://www.chuckspezzano.de/chuck-spezzano/)

The Frankfurter Ring, another direct Spezzano promoter, has continually spread the lie that Spezzano is a psychologist or has a degree in clinical psychology, as evidenced by their very recent promotion:

http://spirit-online.de/chuck-spezzano-fruehjahrstour-2016.html (http://spirit-online.de/chuck-spezzano-fruehjahrstour-2016.html)

We know POV visits this forum. Send a message to your guru. I am calling out the Spezzanos.

Hediger and the Frankfurter Ring are your direct promoters and you are closely associated with them. Tell them both to rescind these false credentials. If you fail to act, that would tell the rest of the world your for-profit corporation is not a good business or communication model and it would confirm our belief that the Spezzanos are knowingly allowing this lie to perpetuate so that you can reap a bigger profit margin using fake medals. Or do you run an empire where you have lost control? In either case, POV is in no position to be giving business advice to others.

It reminds me of Reagan during Iran-Conta. If Ron the Con knew about it, that was bad. And if he didn't know about it, what kind of manager was he?   

We will see if you walk your talk about being truthful and responsible. The two sites above are only the tip of the POV triangle, but fixing them would be a good start. The ball is in your court. There is a lot of misinformation about puffing up and mythologizing Chuck Spezzano's credentials out there that needs to be corrected. Let us see if you are going to Nixon us or be the transparent organization you claim you are. 





 
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 03, 2015, 02:35:45 am
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 10

Eginia Seemann

"Interview Chuck Spezzano with Eginia Seemann," posted Feb. 24, 2015. In passing, Spezzano does mention his use of hypnosis and NLP in the past. He also includes that he is helping people "get out of catastrophic illnesses." 7:23 min.
https://www.facebook.com/eginia/videos/vb.1363909617/10206013048309639/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/eginia/videos/vb.1363909617/10206013048309639/?type=2&theater)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 05, 2015, 06:44:32 pm
Haida Health Hub : Visioning for Optimal Health & Wellness for all First Nation Residents of Haida Gwaii : Community Feedback Questionnaire Results / prepared by Patricia Greer, May 2011.

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/haida-health-hub.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/haida-health-hub.html)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 17, 2015, 04:49:13 pm
From Forgiveness Stories (2005):

http://www.hawaiiforgivenessproject.org/stories/Forgiveness-Stories-short05.pdf (http://www.hawaiiforgivenessproject.org/stories/Forgiveness-Stories-short05.pdf)

also in:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/first-nations-people-canada-recounted.html
 (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/first-nations-people-canada-recounted.html)

This brief essay demonstrates the sort of "professional" treatment a rape victim might expect from Psychology of Vision

Quote
First Nations People: Canada
Recounted by Lency Spezzano

The First Nations woman stood in the center of the seminar room, and trembled with fury.

She was enraged, and she wanted to fight for her dignity and her pride. There was a man in the room, a fellow Native, whom she saw as a transgressor in the extreme. She preached to us of her love for her family, and for her people who had suffered a holocaust of cultural genocide.


The man revealed that he had been a sex offender during his youthful drinking days. He was so filled with regret and remorse that eleven years after the fact he turned himself in to the authorities, to begin a long series of rehabilitative seminars and counseling sessions.

He had been willing to convict himself with his guilt; his challenge now was to win back the truth. Regardless of the mistakes he had made in his life, his true nature as a child of the Creator was perfect innocence. He said that he hoped someday to be able to find forgiveness within himself.

He had abused others as he himself had been abused in the residential “Indian” schools the Canadian government had forced on the First Nations people for over a hundred years. There the children had been torn from their families, separated from their siblings, raped of their language, religion, and heritage, and were taught that everything “Indian” was evil or inferior. Without their families to protect them, the children were preyed upon by sexual predators who were hired by the churches to supervise the dormitories, and teach the classes.

When the children graduated from high school and returned to their villages, they brought the pattern of abuse home. Drugs and alcohol were used by many as an attempt to escape emotional suffering, which caused more damage to families and communities, especially due to their natural physical intolerance for alcohol. Violent death and suicide became common place, as did sexual and physical abuse.

I helped the woman recognize that her issue with this man was that she had not forgiven her own perpetrator for the violation, shame, and loss of innocence that occurred when she had been raped as a girl.

If she could find it in her to forgive her perpetrator, she could recover the innocence and joy she knew as a child. If she could allow this man in the seminar to stand for the one who had hurt her, she could forgive both of them at the same time. If she could free her mind of the judgment she had placed on them so that she could see them as innocent, she could win back their innocence as well as her own.

Without hesitation, she agreed to do the healing that would be required. The man crumpled forward from the torment of his guilt. For him to step to the front of the room to represent the woman’s perpetrator would be the greatest act of courage and willingness of his life. With great effort, he was able to rise and face the woman in her pain.

My husband, Chuck, suggested that she choose two women friends to walk with her and support her as she crossed the room, each step representing a step forward in her forgiveness.

Clutching each other, the three faced the man, and wailing from pain, began their slow but steady progress toward joining him in the truth. As they came close to him, their faces brightened, and soon the tears were tears of joy and release.

As the woman reached him, she gave him the gift of his innocence and therefore was able to receive it as her own. When they embraced, they were filled with love and gratitude for each other.

During the remaining days of the seminar, whenever I saw her around the compound, she was skipping like a child, a big grin on her face. Forgiveness had made her so lighthearted that she proved the adage, “It’s never too late to have a happy childhood.”

Many people are convinced of personal guilt so great that it separates them from their Creator’s love and acceptance. In the face of the miracle of forgiveness, Reality registers the only Truth in our minds: we are still just as God created us. We are perfectly innocent regardless of our mistakes, and we will one day share God’s evaluation of who we are.

In the year following this seminar, the young man continued to work on self-forgiveness. He started a support group for sexual offenders, knowing that he was in a position to help others.

From
http://www.gaia-mind.com
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on December 21, 2015, 04:14:27 pm
From Forgiveness Stories (2005):

http://www.hawaiiforgivenessproject.org/stories/Forgiveness-Stories-short05.pdf (http://www.hawaiiforgivenessproject.org/stories/Forgiveness-Stories-short05.pdf)

also in:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/first-nations-people-canada-recounted.html
 (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/first-nations-people-canada-recounted.html)

This brief essay demonstrates the sort of "professional" treatment a rape victim might expect from Psychology of Vision

Quote
First Nations People: Canada
Recounted by Lency Spezzano

The First Nations woman stood in the center of the seminar room, and trembled with fury.

She was enraged, and she wanted to fight for her dignity and her pride. There was a man in the room, a fellow Native, whom she saw as a transgressor in the extreme. She preached to us of her love for her family, and for her people who had suffered a holocaust of cultural genocide.


The man revealed that he had been a sex offender during his youthful drinking days. He was so filled with regret and remorse that eleven years after the fact he turned himself in to the authorities, to begin a long series of rehabilitative seminars and counseling sessions.

He had been willing to convict himself with his guilt; his challenge now was to win back the truth. Regardless of the mistakes he had made in his life, his true nature as a child of the Creator was perfect innocence. He said that he hoped someday to be able to find forgiveness within himself.

He had abused others as he himself had been abused in the residential “Indian” schools the Canadian government had forced on the First Nations people for over a hundred years. There the children had been torn from their families, separated from their siblings, raped of their language, religion, and heritage, and were taught that everything “Indian” was evil or inferior. Without their families to protect them, the children were preyed upon by sexual predators who were hired by the churches to supervise the dormitories, and teach the classes.

When the children graduated from high school and returned to their villages, they brought the pattern of abuse home. Drugs and alcohol were used by many as an attempt to escape emotional suffering, which caused more damage to families and communities, especially due to their natural physical intolerance for alcohol. Violent death and suicide became common place, as did sexual and physical abuse.

I helped the woman recognize that her issue with this man was that she had not forgiven her own perpetrator for the violation, shame, and loss of innocence that occurred when she had been raped as a girl.

If she could find it in her to forgive her perpetrator, she could recover the innocence and joy she knew as a child. If she could allow this man in the seminar to stand for the one who had hurt her, she could forgive both of them at the same time. If she could free her mind of the judgment she had placed on them so that she could see them as innocent, she could win back their innocence as well as her own.

This is a good example how POV takes credit for making participants confess and interferring with their memory.IN a room locked down for POV to control the outcome of what they do to victims, they create this instant sensation that all is better once they "healed" you, but all they did was manipulate these participants in believing "it's all okay now because they exposed themselves".
This is not "healing", this is a sick manipulative exercise that has a seemingly break thru outcome staged under pressure, everyone watching , loud  emoting music breaking down the participants, everyone being crushed by watching, crying, sobbing, agonizing emoting.
Not fun and especially not healing. POV does not support the participants they break down, instead they lead them to believe that they have been healed from their  sexual attacks. POV does not support the participant victim to report sexual attacks, rapes, abuses or any other offenses. No one is accountable and carry on as usual. This alone proves that POV sets up the so called healing activities as a false manipulative game they play with their victims to look like they are really achieving something.
The rapists and abusers walk away believing they are now free from responsibility and the victims are delusional about their rights to safety in their own communities.
Meanwhile the people who watched this happen who did not share their own experiences but now are knowledgable about who was victimized and by who, start becoming charged with fear of exposure and traumatized by what is being exposed since all of this info is sensitive information and these groups are full of fn people who are related. This leaves the entire community reeling and in crisis as participants go back into their community and share what they learned about who did what to who.

This has resulted in further sufferings in the community where participants have had to cope without the proper support, ie, attempted suicides and psychotic breaks.
POV is dangerous and puts participants at high risk. They are not there afterwards to support the victim thru the process, instead you have to seek out pov trainers who have no professional experience or training. They do more damage and are not accountable.

     The last people that POV should be allowed to target is FN people, Chuck and Lency are heartless and seductive, they are highly egotistical and dangerously manipulative, they do not care who suffers from their treatment and only want to keep pushing for participants to go to their workshops and extract all the funds they can from you. If you can't keep up , then you're out.

POV trainers are driven and relentless and also don not care how they behave as long as they keep getting their way for chuck.

Do not let these people (and I mean all of them > chunk, lency and their trainers)
in your community!  >:(It is a waste of time and resources and will disrupt the real path to healing .  :( :(   
 
Without hesitation, she agreed to do the healing that would be required. The man crumpled forward from the torment of his guilt. For him to step to the front of the room to represent the woman’s perpetrator would be the greatest act of courage and willingness of his life. With great effort, he was able to rise and face the woman in her pain.

My husband, Chuck, suggested that she choose two women friends to walk with her and support her as she crossed the room, each step representing a step forward in her forgiveness.

Clutching each other, the three faced the man, and wailing from pain, began their slow but steady progress toward joining him in the truth. As they came close to him, their faces brightened, and soon the tears were tears of joy and release.

As the woman reached him, she gave him the gift of his innocence and therefore was able to receive it as her own. When they embraced, they were filled with love and gratitude for each other.

During the remaining days of the seminar, whenever I saw her around the compound, she was skipping like a child, a big grin on her face. Forgiveness had made her so lighthearted that she proved the adage, “It’s never too late to have a happy childhood.”

Many people are convinced of personal guilt so great that it separates them from their Creator’s love and acceptance. In the face of the miracle of forgiveness, Reality registers the only Truth in our minds: we are still just as God created us. We are perfectly innocent regardless of our mistakes, and we will one day share God’s evaluation of who we are.

In the year following this seminar, the young man continued to work on self-forgiveness. He started a support group for sexual offenders, knowing that he was in a position to help others.

From
http://www.gaia-mind.com
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 25, 2015, 03:54:09 am
The First Nations Social Development Society Conference for 2009 had a Psychology of Vision presentation. This document was possibly generated from that Conference:

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Community%20Healing%20Concerns.pdf (http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Community%20Healing%20Concerns.pdf)

Quote
Some common concerns of communities interested in our healing program:

1. What steps will you take to ensure the safety of all those participating in your Program?

We have a consent form that ensures appropriate confidentiality measures are present which is signed by all participates prior to participation in any of our programs’s [sic] Healing/Training workshops.

All staff and facilitators adhere to a Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics & Intergrity [sic] and take an Oath of Confidentiality. All staff members and facilitators have criminal record checks. All staff members and facilitators are qualified with Psychology of Vision® healing/support methods.

If a participant in any one of our workshops becomes triggered or re-traumatized through the disclosure of sexual, physical, or mental abuse, our staff will immediately take measures to ground the participant and keep them centered in themselves. Any participant who may be entering process, or visiting, or re-visiting trauma is closely monitored by those staffing the workshop. Each staff member is trained to spot and identify any person who may be suffering. There are numerous signs that one who is trained will pick up on. In a case where this participant is “going down”, or entering an emotional territory that is new or may be harmful to them physically or mentally, they will be completely supported. This support can take the form of one on one attention during any traumatic moments. Staff will be there to offer themselves through physical contact (if the participant is willing to receive), emotional support, and most importantly love.

2. Why are you opening up these old issues in people?

We have years of expereince [sic] in seeing that these ‘old’ issues are constantly being acted out in the individuals and in their families if left
unaddressed. The issues show up in self-destructive behaviours like alcohol and drug addictions, violence, abuse, authority issues, poor health as well as a lost vibrancy for life in general.

By suuporting [sic] people to venture within and address these issues, normally we see improved health and less self destructive behaviour almost immediately. We are not doing anyone any favours by enabling them in their defensiveness or their denial. We tend to inherit their neurosis. Anything that gets handled or healed doesn’t get passed on!

Interesting that Chuck Spezzano's 2004 fine by the State of Hawaii for posing as a psychologist when he is nowhere near being one does not disqualify him from being a POV "healer" as I would think for anyone else it would mean failing the criminal record check they supposedly run.

No one currently in the POV trainer ranks in North America or Europe is a professionally qualified psychologist, and they should not be performing the sort of work described above. To say that "All staff members and facilitators are qualified with Psychology of Vision® healing/support methods" is not even in the category of barely adequate. It is nothing. And what is their plan for long-term follow-up concerning people who have been severely damaged as a result of these workshops?

I'd sure love to see one of those consent forms.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on December 25, 2015, 04:19:52 pm
The First Nations Social Development Society Conference for 2009 had a Psychology of Vision presentation. This document was possibly generated from that Conference:

http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Community%20Healing%20Concerns.pdf (http://www.fnsds.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/Community%20Healing%20Concerns.pdf)

Quote
Some common concerns of communities interested in our healing program:

1. What steps will you take to ensure the safety of all those participating in your Program?

We have a consent form that ensures appropriate confidentiality measures are present which is signed by all participates prior to participation in any of our programs’s [sic] Healing/Training workshops.

POV has participants line up and register before workshops by signing waivers that free pov of any responsibility of redress, you agree to not blame them for anything and agree that you are mentally stable to enter workshop.
This is not a consent form!  :-X

All staff and facilitators adhere to a Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics & Intergrity [sic] and take an Oath of Confidentiality. All staff members and facilitators have criminal record checks. All staff members and facilitators are qualified with Psychology of Vision® healing/support methods.
This is more lip service , pov trainers are constantly getting the "dirt " on participants and share it with one another asap, they are constantly breaking boundaries and do not care about privacy. Once involved the trainers are always prying into your life and reporting to their group. They collectively determine things like > who's demonic and evil and who is going to bend into their hands. They are trained by chuck to act in "authority" and they do damage to participants who become desperate and are trying so hard to find help. When they end up with pov trainers support groups, more of this mindless and damaging authority tactics continue to interfere with the real path of healing and help.

If a participant in any one of our workshops becomes triggered or re-traumatized through the disclosure of sexual, physical, or mental abuse, our staff will immediately take measures to ground the participant and keep them centered in themselves. Any participant who may be entering process, or visiting, or re-visiting trauma is closely monitored by those staffing the workshop. Each staff member is trained to spot and identify any person who may be suffering. There are numerous signs that one who is trained will pick up on. In a case where this participant is “going down”, or entering an emotional territory that is new or may be harmful to them physically or mentally, they will be completely supported. This support can take the form of one on one attention during any traumatic moments. Staff will be there to offer themselves through physical contact (if the participant is willing to receive), emotional support, and most importantly love.
Real support would not be sending participants into tailspins. POV stirs so much turmoil into participants, many get triggered at the same time, losing control and crying hysterically, pov trainers start doing body work and surround you, you feel locked in and the trauma becomes anxiety and claustrophobic, trainers start making you do joining and you fall deeper into an emotional sea of panic, shock and suffering.
You can't leave and there is no option to stop, if you do they are there to egg you on to emote more. There is never any sense of freedom to change your mind and handle it the way you want to. The longer the participant is put into this state of chaos the longer it takes for this person to become at peace again. Stirrings like these are extremely intense and can take days if not weeks to recover from. They are states of despair that creates numbness and disorientation and confusion. When you return to your family , no one knows what happen to you and the participant is now judging all their relationships according to pov instructions. Isolating behavior is the result and family members are boggled why their relative is unhappy and preoccupied with analyzing everything that is happening to them now. :'(   

2. Why are you opening up these old issues in people?

We have years of expereince [sic] in seeing that these ‘old’ issues are constantly being acted out in the individuals and in their families if left
unaddressed. The issues show up in self-destructive behaviours like alcohol and drug addictions, violence, abuse, authority issues, poor health as well as a lost vibrancy for life in general.

By suuporting [sic] people to venture within and address these issues, normally we see improved health and less self destructive behaviour almost immediately. We are not doing anyone any favours by enabling them in their defensiveness or their denial. We tend to inherit their neurosis. Anything that gets handled or healed doesn’t get passed on!
During breaks in the workshops ,especially 3 to 10 day events, participants are in the bar drinking at every occasion. Chuck invites particpants to drink and dine with him.
So how does this address alcoholism and enabling? This can turn out to do way more damage especially when participants fall off the wagon, once they notice no one cares whether your sober and remember the goal for POV is to spill the beans right!
Not a pretty picture for those looking for support and end up weaker and hitting the bottle. Thanks but no thanks, and especially NO Thanks for guiding FN folk on a healing path of no self control and no regard for sobriety.
Time for chuck to sober up and get healed himself.

Interesting that Chuck Spezzano's 2004 fine by the State of Hawaii for posing as a psychologist when he is nowhere near being one does not disqualify him from being a POV "healer" as I would think for anyone else it would mean failing the criminal record check they supposedly run.

No one currently in the POV trainer ranks in North America or Europe is a professionally qualified psychologist, and they should not be performing the sort of work described above. To say that "All staff members and facilitators are qualified with Psychology of Vision® healing/support methods" is not even in the category of barely adequate. It is nothing. And what is their plan for long-term follow-up concerning people who have been severely damaged as a result of these workshops?

I'd sure love to see one of those consent forms.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 05, 2016, 11:05:17 pm
Lakota prayer used to market and merchandise Chuck Spezzano event in Stockholm for June 2016:

https://www.facebook.com/Workshop.Chuck.Spezzano.Stockholm.June.2016/photos/a.1691258564439274.1073741829.1691109974454133/1702379243327206/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/Workshop.Chuck.Spezzano.Stockholm.June.2016/photos/a.1691258564439274.1073741829.1691109974454133/1702379243327206/?type=3&theater)

Attachment provided for those who are signed in. I believe this was chosen and used by Spezzano promoter Lotta Gaber.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 17, 2016, 11:19:35 pm
Psychology of Vision held their annual trainers training on the big island in Hawaii and recently posted their periodic group portrait. Looks like they are down to around 43-45 trainers now, indicating a significant drop in the last few years. It also means they can now fit all the trainers into "the barn" without exceeding the legal capacity of 50.

Babs Stevens appears to be the sole First Nations representative remaining in the group. I did not see UK trainers Barb Jones or the Allens in the pic. Turns out Sue Allen has officially resigned from POV and Jeff is still a member but he had a serious stroke while enroute. Jones could be in there and maybe I didn't recognize her, but if she's really gone that leaves POV UK with only three trainers.   

http://visionworksforlife.de/2016/loslassen-ein-beitrag-von-sue-allen/ (http://visionworksforlife.de/2016/loslassen-ein-beitrag-von-sue-allen/)

http://visionworksforlife.com/2016/lip-service/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/2016/lip-service/)

We'll see how quickly their webpage trainers directories are updated.



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 23, 2016, 03:49:21 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 10

Yukiko Ito

Chuck Spezzano promotes his upcoming book tour/workshop in Japan [?]. POV trainer Yukiko Ito translates. 3:35 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_QZ5-RVUk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_QZ5-RVUk&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 05, 2016, 05:05:25 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 11

egrace712

Chuck Spezzano and Lency Spezzano present certificates to Susanne Ernst and Mami Yoshida. "Very sweet days because we've been waiting for the two of you," says Chuck. 4:51 min. Posted Jan. 19, 2010. Very poor focus on the visuals but the sound quality is OK. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZn4USTKTbk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZn4USTKTbk)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 08, 2016, 06:52:42 pm
A Filmography of Online Videos Concerning Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision

Addendum 12

Lotta Gaber

A Chuck Spezzano Workshop in Stockholm. 2016. 2:16 min.
Lots of stock photos frequently found in New Age marketing and of Spezzano coupled with a jaunty instrumental and captioned. One of the most interesting captions: "A workshop about spiritual business, the interaction between a provider and customer."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVnwcnr5TQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVnwcnr5TQ)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 26, 2016, 11:17:09 pm
Jeff Allen has just resigned from Psychology of Vision. What this means for his already scheduled POV workshops, or his Steps to Leadership POV franchise, or the VisionWorks empire has not been spelled out. Jeff's departure leaves the UK with only two remaining POV trainers.

From his blogpost--

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Speaking of leaving, I have just retired as a Psychology of Vision Trainer. It took me sometime to reach this place but now I know my decision to be true. I will still contribute, still teach but not at the levels of before. I will spend more time at home and write more. I am still a great advocate of this visionary and transformation model and encourage all, who feel it is true, to embrace it.

So for all those that have shared this path of POV with me, thank you and if anyone wants some time then please just ask.

http://visionworksforlife.com/2016/do-i-leave-or-do-i-stay/ (http://visionworksforlife.com/2016/do-i-leave-or-do-i-stay/)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: volcano woman on February 28, 2016, 04:54:54 pm
Nothing At All, pt. 3

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

STATE OF HAWAII, by MARK E. RECKTENWALD, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Petitioner.

vs.

CHARLES L. SPEZZANO dba PSYCHOLOGY OF VISION, Respondent.

STATEMENT OF ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF LAW AND REASONS FOR ENTERING INTO CONSENT JUDGMENT

The STATE OF HAWAII, by its Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (hereinafter "Petitioner"), by its undersigned attorney, files this Statement of Alleged Violations of Law and Reasons for Entering in Consent Judgment pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes (hereinafter "HRS") 480-22.

Here is the text of 480-22--

Haw. Rev. Stat. § 480-22 : Hawaii Statutes - Section 480-22: Judgment in favor of the State as evidence in private action; suspension of limitation.

(a) A final judgment or decree rendered in any civil or criminal proceeding brought by the State under this chapter shall be prima facie evidence against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14, against the defendant as to all matters respecting which the judgment or decree would be an estoppel between the parties thereto. This section shall not apply to consent judgments or decrees entered before any complaint has been filed; provided that when a consent judgment or decree is filed, the attorney general shall set forth at the same time the alleged violations and reasons for entering into the consent judgment or decree. No consent judgment or decree that is entered before any complaint has been filed shall become final until sixty days from the filing of the consent judgment or decree or until the final determination of any exceptions filed, as hereinafter provided, whichever is later. During the sixty-day period any interested party covered under section 480-13 may file verified exceptions to the form and substance of the consent judgment or decree, and the court, upon a full hearing thereon may approve, refuse to approve, or may modify the consent judgment or decree.

(b) A plea of nolo contendere and a final judgment or decree rendered pursuant to that plea in any criminal action under this chapter shall not be admissible against the defendant in any action or proceeding brought by any other party under this chapter, or by the State, county, or any of its political subdivisions or governmental agencies, under section 480-14 against the defendant.

(c) Whenever any civil or criminal proceeding is instituted by the State to prevent, restrain, or punish violations of this chapter, but not including an action under section 480-14, the running of the statute of limitations in respect of every private right of action arising under the laws and based in whole or in part on any matter complained of in the proceeding shall be suspended during the pendency thereof and for one year thereafter. [L 1961, c 190, §20; Supp, §205A-20; HRS §480-22; am L 1981, c 181, §1; am L 2001, c 79, §3; am L 2008, c 19, §7]


Back to the main court document--

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A. Statement of Alleged Violations of Law

1. Respondent is a resident of the State of Hawaii.
2. Respondent is not licensed with the DCCA as a psychologist.
3. On or about October 13, 1995, Respondent prepared a report regarding Steven Tipaldi and Sarah Maculum. Petitioner alleges that said report constitutes the practice of psychology and/or the representation of Respondent as a psychologist.
4. Petitioner alleges that respondent, by engaging in the above-described conduct without first obtaining a license to practice psychology from the DCCA, violated HRS 436B-27(B), 465-2, 465-15(a)(1), 465-15(a)(3), 480-2 and 487-13(a).

Here is the text of the statutes cited-

§436B-27  Civil and criminal sanctions for unlicensed activity; fines; injunctive relief; damages; forfeiture.
(b)  Any person, who engages in an activity requiring a license issued by the licensing authority and who fails to obtain the required license, or who uses any word, title, or representation to induce the false belief that the person is licensed to engage in the activity, other than a licensee who inadvertently fails to maintain licensing requirements under the appropriate licensing statute and who subsequently corrects the failure so that there was no lapse in licensure, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and each day of unlicensed activity shall be deemed a separate offense."

each day of unlicensed activity shall be deemed a separate offense."

Each day of unlicensed activity would add up to alot of days as Chuck  and his wife Lency and their advanced trainers, 100days X "how many POV victims were trained", adds up to a very lengthily offense all under the false pretense of being a psychologist and pretending to teach psychological methods.
Add up these in each country , so you are looking are a very, very large sum of offenses!





§465-2  License required.  Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, it shall be unlawful to represent one's self as a psychologist or engage in the practice of psychology without having first obtained a license as provided in this chapter. [L 1967, c 290, pt of §1; HRS §465-2; am L 1971, c 84, §2; am L 1985, c 115, §4]

§465-15  Prohibited acts; penalties.  (a)  No person shall:
(1)  Use in connection with the person's name any designation tending to imply that the person is a licensed psychologist unless the person is duly licensed and authorized under this chapter;
(3)  Advertise or make a representation, either publicly or privately, as being a psychologist, licensed or otherwise, or as being able to perform professional services described in section 465-1, except as otherwise provided in this chapter, without having a valid unrevoked license or temporary permit issued by the director;

§480-2  Unfair competition, practices, declared unlawful. 
(a)  Unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce are unlawful.
(b)  In construing this section, the courts and the office of consumer protection shall give due consideration to the rules, regulations, and decisions of the Federal Trade Commission and the federal courts interpreting section 5(a)(1) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 45(a)(1)), as from time to time amended.
(c)  No showing that the proceeding or suit would be in the public interest (as these terms are interpreted under section 5(b) of the Federal Trade Commission Act) is necessary in any action brought under this section.
(d)  No person other than a consumer, the attorney general or the director of the office of consumer protection may bring an action based upon unfair or deceptive acts or practices declared unlawful by this section.
(e)  Any person may bring an action based on unfair methods of competition declared unlawful by this section. [L 1965, c 129, pt of §1; Supp, §205A-1.1; HRS §480-2; am L 1987, c 274, §2; am L 1988, c 51, §1; am L 2002, c 229, §2]

§487-13  Unlicensed acts; penalties.  (a)  Any person who furnishes commodities or services for which a license, registration, or certificate is required from the department of commerce and consumer affairs or any board or commission thereunder without having such license, registration, or certificate is engaged in an unlawful act or practice and shall be subject to the penalty provided in subsection (b).
(b)  Any person who engages in an unlawful act or practice as provided in subsection (a) shall be fined by a sum not less than $500 nor more than $2,500 for each unlawful act or practice, which sum shall be collected in a civil suit brought by the office of consumer protection or the department of commerce and consumer affairs.


Let us resume with the court document--

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B. Reasons For Entering Into Consent Judgment

1. Respondent does not admit the allegations of Petitioner set forth in Section A above.
2. Respondent and Petitioner have agreed to a settlement of this matter pursuant to the terms of the attached Consent Judgment as a compromise to avoid litigation and the cost attendant thereto.
3. Restitution is not an issue in this matter.

DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, APR 30 2004
DENISE P. BALANAY
Attorney for Petitioner
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on May 02, 2016, 04:27:33 am
During this downtime for NAFPS, plenty of information has been recycled and repackaged on another venue concerning the Psychology of Vision scam:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/ (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/)

Welcome back, NAFPS! I missed you. I'm sure all the frauds have broadcast a self-preservation alert concerning your return.

The time has come for an independent audit of Babs Stevens expenditures. How much of her POV activities has been funded by public money? Not just the POV fees but also travel money, hotels, food, and leave based on "professional" activities?





Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: moreinfo on May 22, 2016, 05:37:58 pm
after reading about chuck spezzano's scam, i can't help but post this little cartoon that to me, explains it all,
 it's not in some rip off scam like the spezzanos' selling and recruiting unsuspecting vulnurable people
https://www.facebook.com/DalaiLamaFoundation/photos/a.10150178597147816.304826.53912657815/10153210119452816/?type=3
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on July 02, 2016, 04:21:58 pm
Ngystle Society services include: "Trinfinity 8, amethyst bio-mat, lab-grown crystals, a library of spiritual and self-help books":

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/07/ngystle-society-services.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/07/ngystle-society-services.html)

Given the New Age marketing here it seems fitting Psychology of Vision and Spezzano-worship would also be part of Ngystle's agenda. It is difficult to see how this all is supposed to result in a "Cultural Renaissance" for Haida Gwaii.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 05, 2016, 01:55:48 am
I think I found another example of a "split mind" within the leadership of Psychology of Vision.

First, let us regard this statement by Chuck Spezzano regarding "competition":

https://www.facebook.com/notes/malin-pettersen/chuck-spezzano-on-the-competitive-conspiracy/10151279555293272/ (https://www.facebook.com/notes/malin-pettersen/chuck-spezzano-on-the-competitive-conspiracy/10151279555293272/)

Chuck Spezzano on the Competitive Conspiracy
July 22, 2012 at 5:51pm

We live in a competitive society in a competitive world. Competition, like power struggle, is fear-based. It comes from lack of bonding and a sense of inadequacy; it requires us to push ourselves instead of allowing the ease and success that comes from the connection of bonding. Competition is built on our ego's pride, and it always involves attack. Competition has confused winning with success. It is a form of delay that hides both the fear of the next step and the fear of success. Competition seeks to beat another, because the ego has decreed that winning is true success. Like power struggle, competition is a form of avoidance. It distracts us from success and our purpose. Competition is destructive to relationships, family and teamwork. It ties us into independence, which dissociates us, blocks our ability to receive and forces us to work very hard. Because competition comes from our unbonded families, we inherit it ancestrally. Everyone thinks that because competition is so widespread, it is natural; but it is not. It is a trap that easily becomes a conspiracy. Competition builds our grandiosity, not our greatness. Grandiosity is caught in a vicious circle with littleness; it attempts to compensate by self- inflation.

-from the book following the "Healing cards, the conspiracy deck"-

 
Now, let us remember Spezzano and Associates, Ltd. Psychology of Vision is a for-profit corporation. It operates in a competitive business environment and as such we have seen POV is not above gross misrepresentation to gain a profit. That makes it no different than most American capitalist efforts.  Although POV followers like to talk about co-operation, Oneness, and  interdependence, the rhetoric from the Spezzanos is very competitive. Chuck was a football player and Lency a cheerleader, so to some degree the American sports gene is at work here. Here are some examples of inflated egos at work:

"Chuck Spezzano is one of the world's leading psychologists and experts on relationships and personal growth therapy." [Note: Spezzano is definitely NOT a "psychologist" nor an expert on relationships]

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/chuck-spezzano-is-one-of-worlds-leading.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/09/chuck-spezzano-is-one-of-worlds-leading.html)

"Chuck Spezzano, PhD is a world-renowned seminar leader, author, visionary and founder of Psychology of Vision."

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/chuck-spezzano/ (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/chuck-spezzano/)

"Chuck and Lency have spent the last 35 years together helping people heal their lives and transform relationships. Together they founded Psychology of Vision, a global community and healing model. They write books and articles, teach seminars around the world, at their home in Hawaii, and continue to be leaders in new and innovative healing work."

http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/ (http://www.chuckandlencyspezzano.com/)

"Lency Spezzano is a leader in the world of spiritual healers."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAayC9WI6bk)

Hmm. As someone once said, "Grandiosity is caught in a vicious circle with littleness; it attempts to compensate by self- inflation."


Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 02, 2016, 10:36:28 pm
Here's a bit of cultural imperialism found in the Spezzano Card of the Day, posted in 2010, apparently originally from Facebook--

http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/fwd-chuck-spezzano-re-facebook-feedback.html (http://chuckandlencyspezzano.blogspot.com/2010/01/fwd-chuck-spezzano-re-facebook-feedback.html)

I'll present it here in an order that makes sense, so the question comes before the response--

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Some questions
Between You and Barbara

Dear Chuck,


may I ask you a question? Even if it will take some minutes to explain it?


When we were in Hawaii in december, Barb Jones one day came to me and said something like „you are gonna be a PoV-Trainer"…"just came in"…


To be honest, I never thought about that before. I love the PoV-Work and I already use some parts of it in my workshops. But I always thought I won't be a „official" PoV-Trainer. But I remember, when I came to your workshop in Kisslegg in 2006, I was just faszinated, especially of the joining. It was my first workshop with you and Lency. Before that, I had made some weekends and the Steps to Leadership with Peter Reiter. So I decided to make the 100 days. After Hawaii I finished 70 so I have to do another apprenticeship and 20 more days.


When I was in Kisslegg in 2006, you told us about your foundation for the first nations in Canada and India. You explained how importened it is, that the first nations people forgive so that they can help other people to forgive. My first thought was: someone should do that with the first nations in southamerica, too (I don't know if they are so called, too?) As far as I know, there is noone teaching PoV overthere. Since some years I feel a strong connection with people, especially in Peru but also in other countries.


So, since Barb said that to me, I'm asking myself, if I should do that? Would you think it would be a good idea? Or is it just another trip of my ego?


And if so, another question is: whom could I choose for mentor? 44 days of the 70 I made with you and Lency. The rest I made with Peter Reiter, who isn't PoV-Trainer any more, as far as I know. So, would it be possible to choose Lency for mentor? Because she is the person who knows me best? Or should it be a german trainer?


I will be grateful for your feedback, because I know you will give me an honest answer. Thank you so much for what I learned from you.


Love
Barbara

So many directions to go with that question concerning recruitment, cultural domination, POV hierarchy and bureaucracy, etc.

 
Quote
Response to Barbara about being a POV Trainer

    Dear Barbara,

    When I tune into your question it feels true about South America but what is necessary is simply to go forward and the answers become crystal clear.
    Lency doesn't mentor typically for The Trainer's Training so I think it would be better to get a German Trainer as your mentor but let Francine Girard and Susanne Ernst know as they are in charge of new applicants,Susanne as the Dach coordinator and Francine as that is her function. I wish you deepest love and success,
    Chuck

    In a message dated 1/6/2010 8:47:16 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time, shawnalum@hawaii.rr.com writes:

Posted 8th January 2010 by Chuck Spezzano

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on September 05, 2016, 10:24:08 pm
Is anyone at home at Psychology of Vision UK? It looks like their website has not been touched since April. Of the two trainers left, only Alex Patchett-Joyce has a link to another website, and on the events page listed for her personal coaching business the words "Psychology of Vision" and POV logo do not appear (although she does mention she is a POV trainer in the introduction page, which is elsewhere). In looking at just her events page you wouldn't know you are reading a marketing pitch by a POV person.

The POV UK website itself has not listed any events since April 14, 2016.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 23, 2016, 07:06:54 pm
Two Canadian sellouts serving their corporate masters over the needs of their own people:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.in/2016/12/two-canadian-sellouts.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.in/2016/12/two-canadian-sellouts.html)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on January 04, 2017, 08:06:56 pm
It would appear Nicky Rangecroft is no longer a POV trainer, leaving Alex Patchett-Joyce as the sole remaining trainer in the recently once thriving POV UK. No events are listed on the corporation's webpage. Why has this branch of POV declined so rapidly, to the point of near-extinction?

Nicky will always be remembered for the infamous "Chillaxing" downloading/joining session with Lency, a classic episode in the history of Psychology of Vision:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/06/nafps-selections-downloadingjoining_40.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/06/nafps-selections-downloadingjoining_40.html)

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Empath on January 30, 2017, 06:10:40 am
Hi there

I tell you my story in short.
I was married and happy, my wife was a Lawyer and we lived in China (she is Chinese) at that time.
I was working on a new Technology which was rather difficult and time consuming, which put a little bit of a strain to our relationship.
I was so consumed by my research that I did not notice the change that occurred in my wife.
She seemed strangely detached, kind of there but never really there if you know what I mean.
She disappeared for days and came back more empty and more distant.
I suspected that she had an affair and so I confronted her.

Of course she tried to convince me to come with her but I didn't because I can see BS from far away.
So she had this book, The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment by Eckhart Tolle.

I read through it and realized what a dangerous piece of crap it really is.
It takes everyday problems, and gives you solutions that make you at best confused, at worst dependent.
It is a book designed to confuse you about your own being, to make you helpless like a child so that you seek answers to questions that are irrelevant, just like any other religious scam works.

But more than that, it makes people stubborn, aggressive and incapable of living an honest life.

PoV claim that they help people in relationships, that is a Lie.

Just like Scientology they make people dependent, make them arrogant elitists and say that anyone who does not agree with them is as we say an "Untermensch" i.e. they are the ones that know and they are leaders and everyone must follow.

So how do they work?
First they destroy the relationship of anyone that seeks help from them, and then those people find a new happy relationship inside the circle of those who have already been brainwashed by the cult.
Therefore, business is good and loyalty to the cult is ensured because those who find a relationship within the cult are happy to promote the cult.

Sounds like Scientology? For sure it is!
Same smell, same BS!

It is dangerous and must be stopped.

I lost the woman I love because of these criminals, and that is why I must tell this.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on January 30, 2017, 12:50:44 pm
Empath, thank you for joining us and telling your story.

Do you know how many PoV trainings your wife attended? Do you know if she is still involved in PoV?

Anything you can tell is is valuable, thank you.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 02, 2017, 04:19:27 am
Thank you for sharing your story, empath. I am sure it was painful and I appreciate the courage it must have taken to relive those events as you told them. Hopefully any couples shopping around for help will find your post and perhaps you will have saved them from the Psychology of Vision nightmare, and they can seek counsel from real professionals instead.

It strikes me that what POV does to couples as related by empath they also do to cultures. Witness the damage on Haida Gwaii. Lency Spezzano claims POV brings a "cultural Renaissance" wherever they go. Instead this toxic group inserts themselves between the culture and their people, offering their program as a substitute artificial extended family, just as empath illustrated in his case study. The destruction POV causes to individual relationships also applies to the polarizing effect they have on societies.

I fail to see how Babs Stevens and the Ngystle Society's promotion of such pseudoscience as Oneness deeksha blessings, "joining," chakra points, Trinfinity 8, amethyst bio-mats, lab-grown crystals, etc., etc. has anything to do with celebrating the Haida approach to life.

Spezzano and Associates Ltd. Psychology of Vision is a for-profit corporation. It makes money, a lot of it, from every soul who buys into their group. Babs is not practicing her religion here, she is a lobbyist for an American commercial enterprise.

Because the Spezzanos are both unlicensed amateurs, they are not bound by any professional standards or regulations. They get to slip and slither under the rocks and escape any sort of responsibility or consequences from the damage they cause as they work outside the radar in various jurisdictions. It is insidious, it is wrong, and as empath says, it is dangerous and must be stopped.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: educatedindian on February 10, 2017, 11:53:50 pm
I received an account saying the Ngystle Society is now shut down. Their main website is still up, but the most recent post seems to be from Aug 2016. A second website lists upcoming events for October, but it's not clear what year. Their FB page has nothing after early Jan, stating an event is canceled, no explanation.

The same account describes multiple people saying a POV event in Hawaii has constant conflict, with much unclear.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 11, 2017, 02:41:16 pm
POV Canada Facebook has been deleted. After their annual 10-day trainers training in Hawaii the number of trainers has dramatically depleted, half or more of them are no longer in the trainer status. By my count they are now down to 5 in POVAsia, 5 in POVJapan, 3 in POVCanada (if you include Canadian Francine Girard who actually lives in Washington State USA), 3 in POVEurope, and 1 in POVUK.

Several ex-trainers appear to be still be involved in the for-profit POV corporation as "facilitators" in their "Steps to leadership" program, or "POV-lite" as I like to call it.

POVCanada and POVUK have no events listed.

Babs Stevens is still a trainer.

The answer to why this is all happening, whether or not this is by accident or design, remains unclear.

More info:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/psychology-of-vision-trainer-depletion.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/psychology-of-vision-trainer-depletion.html)

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/my-experiences-beyond-duality.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/my-experiences-beyond-duality.html)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on February 19, 2017, 11:49:33 pm
Chuck Spezzano and Janie Ticehurst's book "Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor" is vile. It is a rip off of Louise Hay's books in the New Thought tradition ( http://skepdic.com/newthought.html ), which is problematic in itself. It is victim blaming. Got a health challenge? It is your own damn fault.

And Chuck Spezzano is especially weird about the women. He doubles down on health challenges that women experience.

Chuck uses these vicious metaphors and more in his assaultive large group awareness trainings. The Chuck and Lency Spezzano brand is all about blaming victims and survivors in order to personally profit.

Quote
Fibroids – Uterine 
 
 They demonstrate that we are rooted in the past with some grievance under a buried level of guilt.

The fibroids depict our unwillingness and blockage to nurturing and truly birthing ourselves.

This block stems from a place where we are giving and not receiving.


Quote
Problems with the ovaries indicate that emotional upset of some kind is producing a lot of stress. The upset comes
from problems such as mis-creation (using our creative energies in a negative fashion, such as to create drama, problems, or negativity), fear of birth, fear of surrender, fear of sex or loss of control.

Blend this with Lency's claim that by staring at her you can heal residential school trauma, and obviously Spezzano and Associates Ltd is all kinds of wrong.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on February 21, 2017, 09:49:58 am
All Kinds of Wrong

Piff's post brings up so many issues regarding Psychology of Vision and "Steps to Leadership": Their lack of respect for women, their use of blame and sick-shaming, the fact nothing is original in their concepts, and their willingness to always be a few years behind whatever New Age fad is a proven moneymaker as they follow that parade with their shovel in order to collect the material for their curriculum. As Piff says, this is "All Kinds of Wrong."

These people are not leaders, they are followers. It is not a spiritual movement, it is a for-profit corporation run as a personality cult. The leaders are not professionals in any field, except for perhaps the field of humbug-- they hide behind titles like "coach" or "facilitator" and attempt to jazz up their events by billing them as "congresses." In Europe Chuck Spezzano allows himself to be fraudulently marketed as a "psychologist" with a Ph.D. in "Clinical Psychology." They are not healers, they are parasites-- they appropriate sacred practices and beliefs from other cultures and microwave them into New Age junk food, they appropriate terms from science and attempt to pose as professionals, but mostly they appropriate large sums of money from vulnerable people.

Personal remarks will be made here, but we are talking about a cult of personality. Chuck and Lency Spezzano have made themselves their own brand and claim to be internationally renowned, apparently inseparable from their organization as outlined in the POV Trainers Manual. So all talk of "character assassination" is now nullified as we provide honest criticism of their operation as a whole. They have set themselves up as major public figures and world leaders who exemplify their product.  They are fair game as far as their choice to serve as examples of their own marketing goes. They are self-professed big fish but in a very tiny and shrinking pond.

The Spezzano/Ticehurst "Healing Metaphors" do appear to be particularly cruel to women. Here are some other examples to provide confirmation of the thesis posed by Piff:

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Abortion, Still Birth or Miscarriage
Abortion and miscarriage refer to the termination of pregnancy before the fetus is viable. Stillbirth is the birth of a dead fetus. Any death of a fetus reflects our lost ‘selves’ that died in childhood. We are acting out or replaying the original situation, and most of the feelings of guilt, failure and pain stem from the original childhood trauma. As people had issues of abortion, stillbirth or miscarriage, they report many times at an intuitive level that the lost fetus is an old soul friend, angel or soul seeking learning or advancement by going through this experience. They do this for the purpose of helping us heal the old guilt surrounding loss of self, overwhelming pain, or finally, to recover the original selves that died. These dead selves that were created through trauma, remain with us but are deeply buried. This repression orients us in a self-destructive direction. As the trauma shows itself through present circumstances, we have an opportunity to heal the very root of the pain from the past.

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Amenorrhoea
Amenorrhea is the absence of menstrual flow. There are times when this is normal, as in pregnancy and menopause. It can also occur in athletes when they are performing continuous, demanding physical exertion. However, when there is no natural explanation for it, amenorrhea typically means that we are using an exaggerated, compensating aspect of our masculine and rejecting our feminine as inadequate to deal with the situation. These judgments on our femininity may create problems with men. We may become angry or competitive and project the issues we have with our own femininity on our father, partner, brothers, co-workers and men in general. In our rebellion against the feminine we become manlike. The root of the issue revolves around our belief that we didn’t have our father’s love and acceptance. We feel as if we have to step into our exaggerated masculine self, or else face being too weak to protect ourselves, our children, or our creative projects. By accepting our mother and father equally, we bring our own masculine and feminine into balance and end the conflict, thereby releasing ourselves from the fear and overdrive that it has been resorting to in its attempt to reach a new level in our life. This symptom reflects a holding on to the past and being back in the dissociated masculine resisting the next phase of our life because of a lack of confidence.

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Breasts
The breasts are the mammary glands and their function is to nourish the young. Breasts reflect issues of nurturing. Problems with our left breast, or mother-breast, indicate that weare called to nurture someone in relationship. They can also reflect feelings of not being nurtured by our mother, but our grievances are hiding the fact that we actually came to
nurture her. Underneath our needs and grievances we have hidden guilt that we didn’t save our mother or provide her with the nurturing that she needed. Yet, deeper still, awaits a soul level gift of nurturing that we have come to bring the world, for all women and especially for our mother.

Problems with our right breast, or father-breast, indicate we are called to nurture men around us. Problems with the right breast denote issues regarding lack of nurture from our father, yet it was us who has come to nurture him. This may also manifest itself as an issue with a husband, brother or men in general.

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Fibrocystic Breast Disease
Fibrocystic breast disease is characterized by single or multiple benign tumors of the breast, showing that we have cut off an element of nurturing. While we push to move forward, we are holding on to something unresolved from the past. Part of our life’s purpose is nurturing those around us, but because we didn’t feel nurtured ourselves, we carry a grievance. This grievance-judgment hides our own guilt, which in turn hides our soul level gift of nurturing. Instead of embracing the act of true giving, we have either adopted a role, or we have withdrawn from the gift of nurturing altogether. This gift was meant to nurture the very parent we have a grievance with for not nurturing us. All of this is a conspiracy that has to do with giving nurturance. We see it as too big a challenge for us, because we perceive the need around us as too great. But, like any purpose, heaven does it through us; we don’t accomplish it alone. So we could receive heaven’s nurturing for those around us.

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Mastitis
Mastitis is an inflammation of the mammary glands. It is a painful condition that is most common during lactation. Mastitis in our left breast indicates that we feel angry about having to nurture someone, because we felt we were not nurtured ourselves, especially by our mother. Mastitis in our right breast indicates we are angry about having to nurture men around us, or someone to do with our career; it can also reflect feelings of not being nurtured by our father.

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Menstrual Cramps
Menstrual cramps result from the cramping of the uterus during menstruation. They point to a need for specialness, attention and love and are a form of self-attack for being a woman. Typically, we are caught in the vicious cycle of the specialness-sacrifice of being a woman. Specialness is counterfeit love and sacrifice is counterfeit giving, where we give out of roles without truly giving ourselves. Both specialness and sacrifice ‘contract us’ and stop us from being our full self as a woman.

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Morning Sickness (chronic)
The characteristics of morning sickness are nausea and vomiting occurring during pregnancy. Chronic morning sickness means that we have a resistance to the changes we are going though physically and emotionally. We are making a call for love and help. There may be elements of neediness, specialness, emotional blackmail and attack. It may also show a lack of bonding with the baby because of separation and lost bonding with our own parents.

There is much more, but you get the idea. I strongly suspect that Ticehurst supplied the medical descriptions and Spezzano wrote the actual metaphor. These samples reveal a lot more about Chuck's sick attitude toward women than it does about the victims of these maladies.

Although Psychology of Vision (and Steps to Leadership) is chiefly populated by women, it is the men who are in charge. Chuck is the CEO of Spezzano and Associates Ltd., the corporation of which POV is a subsidiary. For years the POV executive "Steering Committee" comprised of the "Master Trainers" consisted of three men and three women (now, apparently, just two men and two women), representing a group that is usually about 80-90% female. I do not include POV golden child Francine Girard in this equation since her trainer status is unknown.

Chuck's lack of sensitivity toward women is reflected in the lewd and obscene jokes he uses in his presentations. He calls this sense of humor "bawdy" but there are other more direct words for it. I notice the only participants who speak favorably about the use of this technique are  Asian males. The employment of dirty jokes is basically a form of aggression, juvenile as it is, designed to intimidate women. "What's the matter with you, can't you take a joke? Loosen up!" is basically the bullying game here along with a condemnation of his critics for being too "politically correct"-- a favorite rallying cry along with categorizing all critics as "haters." These are words cowardly bullies like to hide behind (e.g. Donald Trump, who said his grab 'em by the pussy quote was simply locker room talk). This form of communication is an assault, especially to women. Either Spezzano knows that, which makes him a bully, or he doesn't, which makes him an ignoramus. Either way he is toxic.

As we have seen in his 2007 DVD Chuck Spezzano, Psychology of Vision (container title: Inspiring Heart, Mind and Soul), he is not above blaming FN rape victims for their situation:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37561#msg37561)

Around 2008 POV UK head honcho Jeff Allen gave a "make the 1950s great again" sort of statement to the Daily Mail, basically extending Spezzano's attitude toward women:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/fast-track-to-femininity.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/fast-track-to-femininity.html)

We note that after Lency semi-retired at the end of 2014 POV experienced a severe decline in the number of trainers, particularly in the UK where she had cultivated a special annual event just for women. This leads me to believe POV consisted of two personality subcults-- one for Lency, one for Chuck. I suspect many of Lency's followers were not comfortable staying aboard once Chuck was the only one on the stage. And who can blame them? If you are a New Age feminist would you really want to be creeped out by an aging obese sweaty guy whining around and telling obscene jokes as a way to lure you into his cult? He's like a bad pickup artist in a 70's meat market. The cosmetics, the jewelry, the apparel, the fake everything. More on that later.

It is also worthy of note that Chuck's videos were the result of big bucks being spent, as they had professionally produced introductions, where Lency's videos were basically badly made home movies. Also, Lency has been the one with the unpleasant job of responding in public to their critics while Chuck is mostly above such things. It is good to be the King where the dirty tasks are assigned to the secondary people. As Kellyanne Conway has been to Trump, so has Lency been for Chuck, with the same result in credibility.

Chuck's early desire to become a Catholic priest gives us a clue about his initial reluctance as an adult to join the world of normal male/female relationships. By his own account he went to the other end of the spectrum and became a very active womanizer after he ditched the pursuit of the priesthood and was lured into large group awareness counseling. This guy has no clue concerning the experience of the average guy and his subsequent dictates are very destructive concerning the role of men. This is due to the fact Chuck never really experienced what it means to be a real man in a healthy setting.  He's just a stupid jerk who no one should ever listen to for love advice. A real man never treats women as badly as Chuck has.

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/love-yourself-and-it-doesnt-matter-who.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/love-yourself-and-it-doesnt-matter-who.html)

In both Spezzano priest/womanizer extremes women were basically second class humans, an attitude still reflected in POV today no matter how high the "Goddess" or "Divine Feminine" or "Tiger Woman" pedestal may stand. Spezzano, now nearly 70, is trapped in the amber of the Rat Pack era. He never caught up to the concept that women are real humans. To see POV currently attempting to celebrate the power of the feminine is somewhat comical, and very pathetic.

The Spezzano/Ticehurst book Healing the Body Through Mind and Metaphor is clearly based upon the work of Louise Hay. In some cases the metaphors themselves mirror Hay to the point of near-plagiarism. Hay's description of each malady is much more brief, but the concepts are the same, it almost as if Hay wrote the draft and Spezzano merely embellished her work. Yet, Hay's name never appears in the Spezzano/Ticehurst work, not even in the acknowledgements. Spezzano/Ticehurst attempt to pass this off as their own idea. What a snow job!

Just as how POV has swiped material from A Course in Miracles, Lifespring, Oneness University, Jose Arguelles, Bob Trask, etc., they "borrowed" from Louise Hay as well. Nothing is ever original with Psychology of Vision. Everything about it has been lifted from another source with varying degrees of credit or non-credit. They are all about following whatever New Age fad will turn a profit, usually several years behind the initial introduction. Hardly what one would call "cutting edge." The Spezzano's so-called "research" has been in market analysis of the New Age niche commercial trends-- it certainly hasn't been in the field of healing or professional psychology. POV has been all about how to relieve vulnerable people of their money.

Before moving on, it will be useful to read what Lency stated in her The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision about the "Healing Metaphors":

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/05/nafps-selections-truth-about-chuck-and_31.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/05/nafps-selections-truth-about-chuck-and_31.html)

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In the Psychology of Vision, health issues can give us clues about what is going on in our subconscious minds. It is sort of like a psychiatrist doing dream analysis – physical symptoms can also be read as symbols for the conflicts in our minds. Healing the emotional conflict certainly doesn’t hurt a person’s chances of healing physically, and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that it is helpful, but we have not done any research studies on the subject, and we do not make any claims.

The bloggers claim that us looking at the metaphors of illness with people (similar to Louise Hay’s work) is actually us blaming them for having their symptoms. This, of course, would have no value for the client – blaming a person for their illness is completely counterproductive to their healing and wellbeing. Taking accountability, on the other hand, gives the client power in their life.

At least Lency is willing to give Hay some credit, incredibly downplayed as it is. The statement "we have not done any research studies on the subject" pretty much destroys any validity the Spezzano/Ticehurst work pretends to have.

As for the "counterproductive" part, let us take a look at some real people reacting to the "Healing Metaphors" and see what they have to say. First, here is the "Healing Metaphor" for rheumatoid arthritis:

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Rheumatoid arthritis is one of the most common forms of arthritis; it is the inflammation of the lining of the joints. The cause of Rheumatoid Arthritis is unknown but it is believed to be an autoimmune disease. If we have this condition, it means that we are caught in roles and are emotionally and psychologically fused with others, which makes us unable to move. We have been immobilized by a fear of change.

Here is a link to what real people who suffer from rheumatoid arthritis have to say about the Spezzano/Ticehurst coverage of their disease. It isn't pretty:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/healing-metaphors-z-and-rheumatoid.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/10/healing-metaphors-z-and-rheumatoid.html)

Sick-shaming is an integral part of POV, which falls right into the New Age "Law of Attraction" belief system. This has some rather sinister implications. In an interview with the New York Times in 2008 Hay basically admitted that entire cultures who were victims of genocide pretty much deserved what they got due to negative energy:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4179.msg37289#msg37289)

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But while Hay may have hedged about whether positive thinking could cure AIDS, in her writings she was adamant that thoughts — not just sexual behavior — could help cause it. “Venereal dis-ease,” Hay writes in “You Can Heal Your Life,” using her eccentric spelling, “is almost always sexual guilt. It comes from a feeling, often subconscious, that it is not right to express ourselves sexually. A carrier with a venereal dis-ease can have many partners, but only those whose mental and physical immune systems are weak will be susceptible to it.” And that mental weakness can be self-loathing, hating one’s looks or just a fear of aging.

In person and in print, Hay mentions these causes only to play them down: “In no way am I trying to create guilt for anyone”; “this is a time for healing, for making whole, not for condemnation.” But she cannot escape her own logic: if our thoughts create our circumstances, then we are always, in the end, to blame. When I asked her if, since people’s thoughts are responsible for their conditions, victims of genocide might be to blame for their own deaths, she said: “I probably wouldn’t say it to them. I don’t go around making people feel bad. That’s not what I’m after.” I pressed harder: Did she believe they are to blame? “Yes, I think there’s a lot of karmic stuff that goes on, past lives.” So, I asked, with a situation like the Holocaust, the victims might have been an unfortunate group of souls who deserved what they got because of their behavior in past lives? “Yes, it can work that way,” Hay said. “But that’s just my opinion.”

In Psychology of Vision and Steps to Leadership the blame game is alive and well. The leadership here is all about passing the buck and never accepting any responsibility for mistakes or when they are caught in ethically-challenged choices. The POV response to critics is something one would expect from a sociopath. All critics are "haters" or as one POV trainer says, "evil." Yet they proclaim there is no right or wrong. I think they suffer from a "split mind," eh?

When POV foibles are highlighted online, the usual response from the corporation is to simply erase it. The POV English language Trainers Manual, the majority of Lency's "Downloading/Joining" Youtubes, the online "Healing Metaphors," and all POV praise for Oneness University-- just wiped out. Poof! Gone. Is that what they teach in "Steps to Leadership"? To run away from conflict and allow  your critics to define you in the void you have left? Is there is no passion for life or fight in POV or Steps to Leadership? They are content to being compliant zombies?

The Spezzanos have been very clever in operating under the radar of the regulators. As non-professionals they are not subject to laws or government oversight regarding problems with professional psychologists. They are also careful not to perpetuate their scam in the mainland USA, where consumer protection laws are stronger than that of the rest of the world.  Hawaii has a notoriously lax and badly run bureaucracy, creating a haven for characters like the Spezzanos. It is a miracle Chuck was even fined for being a fraud psychologist by Hawaii in 2004. In any other USA state he would probably be serving time by now. But in Hawaii this couple does not have to worry about being responsible or accountable.

Chuck Spezzano has consistently been marketed in Europe under false credentials. He does not possess a Ph.D. in "clinical psychology," instead he has something exotic in "professional psychology" which was not accredited by the APA-- meaning he earned this unaccredited degree and bypassed any sort of national standard so even by European definitions just possessing the degree does not give him the right to be called a "psychologist." But they do call him a "psychologist," sometimes even by his own trainers on POV websites-- but according to Lency the Spezzanos are helpless to stop this, it is always someone else's fault:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2016/05/nafps-selections-truth-about-chuck-and_9.html

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If you read Chuck’s resume section on this website, you will know that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology. I have never heard him refer to himself as a psychologist, and we have never advertised him as one, because that would require a psychologist’s license. We don’t edit the promotional material that PoV promoters and Trainers around the world create, as it is primarily in foreign languages. If some have been calling Chuck a psychologist instead of saying that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology, I’m sure it has been brought to their attention now.

Oddly, Lency also says:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/marquis-whos-who-breaththrough-seminars.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2015/12/marquis-whos-who-breaththrough-seminars.html)

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Chuck was employed as a psychologist by the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center at the Naval Air Station Miramar, in San Diego, from 1973-79.

Since he didn't earn his degree until 1977, he was probably working under some broader definition of the term "psychologist" at that time, either that or someone is stretching the truth a bit. From what I can ascertain, Chuck Spezzano has never been a licensed psychologist.

The list of evasions, "dodging bullets" (as Chuck likes to say), and ducking out of responsibility over and over again is much too long to belabor here, but I would like to point out one last example. The Vision Taiwan Association published an anniversary book in 2012 with contributions from POV bigwigs, including Chuck. In it he says:

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Ever since we began training Trainers, Lency and I recognized that process has accelerated for the Trainers. This meant that pain and problems came to the surface quickly and if they weren’t teaching and healing at a fairly continuous pace then they were suffering from the amount and the depth of issues that occurred. Sometimes, even if they were teaching, more smelly doodah hit the fan than usual. Some trainers could not stand this in spite of the fair warning they received and had to leave the program. Trainers left the program for different reasons but this was one of the biggest.


http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/more-smelly-doodah-hit-fan-than-usual.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/02/more-smelly-doodah-hit-fan-than-usual.html)

See? It was the trainers' own fault. The Spezzanos were blameless.

Spezzano's metaphors qualify as a form of emotional abuse, where the victim is to blame and must be shamed. This gives you an indication of what is in store for you if you sign up for Psychology of Vision or "Steps to Leadership." Be prepared to be manipulated and being made to feel guilty, bled dry, and then thrown under the bus. POV is not about helping, or giving. They are all about taking. From your bank account.

Psychology of Vision and Steps to Leadership is a huge scam run by a couple of con artists. If you are a gullible fool wanting to flush your money down the toilet go ahead and sign up. Otherwise, do your homework and find a better and more trustworthy alternative for your emotional and spiritual growth.   



Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on March 21, 2017, 10:45:36 pm
Lency Spezzano is doubling down on targeting First Nations people.

She recently posted a long letter to her people. Lency sounds grandiose, mentally unstable, and even more demanding of trainers.

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It is a golden, joyful energy, and I call joining through “healing from the 5th dimension.” This powerful bliss/love energy came together with a spontaneous download I received through my friend and adopted relative who is a hereditary First Nations chief in Canada.

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In my understanding of the true meaning of the current buzzword, “Reconciliation,” is the true gift that indigenous peoples have to offer the rest of us that could save us from the demise we are creating for the planet, simply because we are not in relationship with her, and cannot feel her.

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Somehow, the effect of integrating that healing, combined with what I call the “All My Relations” download and the 5th dimensional vibration of love - it provided me with a newfound authority that has the ability to easily expose attachments where the person is refusing to face the light.

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I hope we PoV Trainers can give you the foothold into Christ Consciousness healing via a download soon, and that, now that the new territory is cleared, you and all of the PoV community won’t have to go through that birth process on your own. It was, quite literally, hell, the toughest 5 days of my life; I pray you can piggy back off of my process.

https://www.facebook.com/PsychologyofVisionUK/posts/1828582264

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 27, 2017, 03:38:27 pm
Psychology of Vision appears to be flailing and failing.

Some indicators in 2017:

Apparently they did not fill their Hawaii 2017 spring "apprenticeship" workshop to capacity.

POV Central Europe has not posted Chuck Spezzano's monthly newsletter, nor have they posted their national newsletter for April. This is the first time they have failed to be punctual in terms of spreading the Divine Word from God's messenger.

After whatever happened at the January 2017 trainers training, the number of POV trainers has diminished by more than half. POV has 20 or less trainers now by my count. POV failed to produce the annual giant group photo of trainers this year.

The Ngystle Society, which served as a POV conduit to Haida Gwaii, has closed the doors to their facility.

Powerful Events, a European for-profit promotional entity that consistently marketed Chuck Spezzano's appearances by misrepresenting and inflating his credentials, has folded up.

Some of the recent ex-POV trainers have tried to wipe clean all online references between them and their former cult.

The POV Canada Facebook page is now extinct.

POV has had no events scheduled in Canada in 2017 so far, according to their website. In the UK, all POV events are centered around promoting the career of one solitary trainer. The Soezzanos have stopped visiting Canada and the UK.

Chuck has ceased holding 10-day sessions in Germany.




Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on January 06, 2018, 04:04:14 am
Lency Spezzano now claims that she can heal PTSD.

In truth, the Spezzanos' Psychology of Vision large group awareness trainings and other practices could actually trigger PTSD. Trainings can involve catharsis, shock, and people are restricted in many ways including as to when they can go to the bathroom. Large group awareness trainings can be traumatic.

Quotes from Lency, Dec 2017:

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What an amazing and blessed year this has been! Challenging in some regards, but rewarding in so many surprising ways. I am writing to catch you up on some of the latest developments in my work this fall - the ability to heal Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and the opening of the High Crown chakra.

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... we can heal Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The healing of this one disorder had remained illusive to me all these years, and finally I discovered why. It requires an ability that shamans utilize to retrieve soul fragments from other dimensions - pieces of our souls that we lost through traumas in which we pulled away from life.
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With a big PTSD healing the person goes through about a week of disorientation, discombobulation and dizziness as the soul piece reorients itself to the body and this reality - after all, this part of you may not have been conscious since you were a small child.

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...in her Trainer supervisory session this month, our Master Trainer Hiromi-san was able to complete a PTSD healing in half an hour (I believe the work will be done more and more quickly)...

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Next time I write I will tell you about the High Crown chakra opening at the end of the December Apprenticeship, and the immediate download for it that I gave to 500 of ASK’s PoV students.


https://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/01/healing-post-traumatic-stress-disorder.html
https://www.facebook.com/PsychologyofVisionUK/posts/1965318927061016
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 02, 2018, 09:13:08 pm
We finally have a clue why Psychology of Vision lost half of their trainers in Jan. 2017. Here is Lency Spezzano addressing the flock in Mar. 2017. Transcription is exact without corrections:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/07/we-lost-number-of-trainers-who-were-not.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/07/we-lost-number-of-trainers-who-were-not.html)

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Hi ~ I came on Facebook to let you friends know I am doing great, and to share my own process and news of our community’s progress (below) with those of you who are members of our international Psychology of Vision community. I send you all my love in these very interesting times, and wish you the very best.

For those of you who have been following my personal story as I navigate through the massive healing births that have been banging on my door since the beginning of the year, there are some interesting new folds in the developing process. And finally, I believe, I think I have discovered the end product of this second massive birth in the Psychology of Vision this year. I am very excited about what I feel is a truly spectacular development, while also humbled by the broad vista ahead that we know so little about. Regardless, this new territory, this new plateau that PoV has reached, feels open, free and exciting!

As many of you are aware, the leadership in PoV - both in the Trainers’ Association and the Mastery Program - were asked to make a commitment to the light in a new, deeper layer of the mind that I developed access to in January. When PoV then drew a new line in the sand in it’s commitment to the light, we lost a number of trainers who were not prepared to make that same commitment. But the result of PoV’s commitment to integrity, regardless of the cost, has paid off dramatically. The remaining PoV Trainers have experienced a great uplifting as the result of the vibrational upgrade the Psychology of Vision Trainers’ Association group mind went through. It’s such a joy to feel the safety, freedom from competition and mutual support from and for each other Trainer for the first time. And the love energy that does the healing in PoV seminars now is from a whole new level. The ability to experience love at the community level is the relationship possibility that this work offers to the world. Imagine this force of love in the workplace! In your own business and family! Between nations! It is a very exciting possibility to ponder on a world scale.

And the trickle-down effect from the Trainers’ new level has effected students tremendously. Today I was chatting with Hiromi and Francine on Skype, and Hiromi wrote that, as a result of this new, deeper commitment to the light in PoV seminars, “Hideaki and I feel our workshops are in a whole new level. And we are very very happy.”

Also, you may have noticed that you and the whole community are going through this same birth. Births that come from self examination and awareness aren’t usually easy or fun to go through emotionally, but the rewards of the results are always spectacular. A great thing about PoV is that. in general, the leadership goes through the births first and everyone downstream of those teachers’ processes and teachings benefit. So by the time the shifts, with all their benefits, hit the community level through the work of the PoV Trainers around the world, the births should come about easily. Chuck would probably be making references to “greased grapes.” :) Already, throughout the international PoV community, people are having a much easier time releasing their attachments to the darkness that is being exposed than had at the time of the original confrontation in January. We discovered that the most important element to be developed for us to be able to navigate the last stage in the Triangle, the Union Stage, is the development of our will.

So, It looks to me like the first big birth that came about after our Trainers’ Conference -the one that provided a beachhead into Christ Consciousness - was it’s own birth, which continued as new integrations of duality expanded that territory. But it also could be that that very large birth was just part of an even greater birth, the birth of our will, which ripened and healed in me over a two month period since January. Recovering this part of the mind is HUGE in the benefits it offers.

It appears that in our successive falls out of the state of Oneness, in which we progressed more and more into the idea of separation, we lost our ability to really manifest our will in the world. We had sunken to the level of victim, where we had no power to prevent bad things from happening to us and those we love. If, for example, we attracted the attention of “bad guys,” we were helpless to escape from their parasitic and abusive attacks. We were powerless against the fates, powerless against those who were pulling the strings we couldn’t even see.

But, - and, who knew this was here (?) - there is an activation that occurs in what I am guessing is the “high” third eye (I wish I could find some information on it on the internet). Once it is open, turning your attention there is like turning on an energy faucet that allows you to actually recover from the place where you were knocked out of when you fell in your life. You are finally able to climb back into the drivers’ seat. You are finally able to enter the thrown room of your kingdom, where you can sit upon the thrown of your mind to actually rule it.

From there you can actually bring resolution to troubled situations. From there you can take your mind into situations to protect yourself, and remove obstacles. You can accomplish what you want in the world for the first time, and it’s ok to do it, because your mind is safe. You will not do damage with your super-power of human will. :) You will not choose selfishness and self promotion. You wield the light as an archangel does; you are a power for good; and, most especially, you are finally in the position to “save the world” in the way A Course in Miracles suggests, because you can finally effect changes in the dream. And it’s a real blast! SO much fun!

How do we save the world? Women and men with heart are in the position to take the power out of the hands of childish men who have served as puppets for the untrue masculine of dark agendas, and in so doing, empower human beings everywhere. Rather that being the time of ruination for our beautiful planet and the human race, this time can be the time when we human beings draw the line in the sand, and demand that the dark astral remove itself from our reality entirely. This way the “thousand years” of heavenly reign is introduced to our minds through a quiet revolution in our minds, not the annihilation of projected enemies that will reign down suffering upon us all. But even more than willingness to carry a sign in the street, we can change the world with our awakened will.

And I don’t want to confuse anyone about the value of developing personal “will,” when we all understand that it is in our best interests to surrender to the Will of God. What has revealed itself to me in this process is the necessary step of developing one’s personal will before it can be surrendered to God. A suppressed or repressed will can not be offered up. Once we have reclaimed our will, the surrender to God can be completed, so we can discover that our will and God’s Will are One in Truth - because God only wishes for us the Good that we wish for ourselves.

For those who are interested in the progression through the aspects of my birth process, there were at least two big healings I went through in February and March, with huge integrations involved. (When issues integrate back into the mind they do it seamlessly, without anything left behind to indicate that a healing had taken place there, but the reverberation of the growth step is in the download regardless of whether the story about the integration is known.)

The first duality that I healed in this lesson was of one of the first splits in the mind, our belief in war and Heaven's answer of peace. So seeing the duality of War vs. Peace, I could choose past them to choose for God, and gain another victory for Christ Consciousness in my mind. The healing has to do with developing the will, which is the autonomy element that I was feeling.

The second step was the integration of the opposites of Right and Wrong, with their elements of Superiority and Inferiority - a really great one to get past! As you Choose for God in this instance, you are choosing Truth over the belief in right and wrong.

Anyway, I am really looking forward to being able to teach from this platform in our Apprenticeship here at our place April April 3 - 12. I am excited to get to see old friend Anna Kjaer here after many years of just getting to see each other on Facebook, and I hope other old friends will join us to enjoy this great Renaissance of the Psychology of Vision! Can’t wait to hang out with you in this bliss, Anna! What a blast. :D

So we will see if this time of spectacular 2017 births that Chuck predicted will have an ebb in its flow, or if we will be back on the rollercoaster again really soon. Regardless, when you find yourself facing the next big acceleration, know that we will be on the rollercoaster together, as a community, and we have all the support of the Universe to complete our births. If you find this kind of letter to be helpful, I could start a blog, I suppose, to occasionally share PoV’s greater process and themes from the feminine mind’s perspective. Let me know if you feel it would find it would be valuable enough to your greater process for me to do it.

Please feel all my love to you, and all of my encouragement to you on your path. You can feel your PoV team with you in every commitment you make to the light, in every act of remembering God’s love. Until later ~ xxxxxxx Lency


For those who might not know, even though a few years ago Lency said 2014 would be her final year in international travel and sold workshops on that dire promise, she is returning to Canada in September 2018 with Chuck to hold an expensive scam show. Babs Stevens has been in contact with officials in Whistler BC to help set it up. Hopefully the RCMP has been notified to monitor the situation.

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/05/hey-look-two-new-age-frauds-are-coming.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/05/hey-look-two-new-age-frauds-are-coming.html)

Our NAFPS friend moreinfo made the accurate prediction in Mar. 2014 that she was lying and would return:

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/07/2014-will-be-lencys-last-year-traveling.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2017/07/2014-will-be-lencys-last-year-traveling.html)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 24, 2018, 07:24:15 am
Scam alert!

This is a message from Lency Spezzano to the Psychology of Vision followers on Facebook. I smell desperation here. Especially after she  promised never to hold an international workshop after 2014 which would require her to leave the luxurious Spezzano headquarters in Hawaii.

She lied, of course. She has been to several foreign workshops since then. But POV is based on a mountain of lies so why should we be surprised?

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PoV friends helping friends
August 12 at 7:43 PM ·

Hi guys! I’m wondering if some of you in our international Psychology of Vision community might feel inspired to help us out with something?

In a very short time - September 7th through 11th - Chuck and I will be traveling to a glorious location, Whistler, British Columbia on the West Coast of Canada; we will be teaching a seminar entitled Choosing Reconciliation, Overcoming the Hurdles That Stand in Our Way. What has always made these Canadian seminars especially powerful, is that they have always provided the opportunity to do our healing alongside First Nations peoples.

The First Nations peoples of the Americas are highly respected and revered in Europe and throughout the world, and PoV participants from everywhere will be joining Chuck and me for this special experience. Chuck and I have always felt that if this world will survive, it will be because the planet embraces the wisdom and values of our Indigenous Peoples in time. It feels like this seminar is that seminal moment PoV has been preparing for, and it is a thrilling moment.

Our First Nations Fund has been fundraising for this event all year to do what we can to help with food and lodging for First Nations participants to be able to attend (special thanks to those who participated in Chuck’s Jams Shirt auctions around the world!). But our team has realized that we could get more First Nations people there who want to attend if we could come up with some sponsorships for a daily food and travel per diem. That way, many more of those within driving distance of the event could attend. Most of us have little idea of the challenges of every kind that First Nations unfairly face daily, and in PoV we value giving support not only to those who most deserve it, but to those who can, perhaps, be this planet’s salvation. If you feel called to contribute, I promise you the ripple effect of your generosity will help, and help, and continue to help.

Although donations of any size are greatly appreciated, an easy and meaningful way to support this important Psychology of Vision work would be to make a donation for either a one day food and travel per diem of $50 USD, or the gift of the entire week’s food and travel needs, which would be $250 USD. If you are lucky enough to be in a position to help out and feel called to contribute to this event, thanks you so very much! If you can identify yourself to me below, we can figure out how to get your contribution, in your own currency (If that’s most convenient) to the event. We will provide documentation for your taxes if that is a help.

Also, could you please repost this call for help so we can reach as many PoV people as possible? We will get translations of this posting in Mandarin, Japanese and German asap. A million thanks! xxxxx Lence

Lots of commentary I could add, but I don't really have to.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on August 24, 2018, 02:25:41 pm
But wait! There's more!

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Psychology of Vision UK & Ireland
August 16 at 1:27 PM ·

I just want to share a message from Lency, see her Facebook page for more details:

Thank you for the joyful, generous and enthusiastic response that we are getting from our First Nations Fund fundraising efforts for Chuck’s and my September 7th - 11th seminar entitled Choosing Reconciliation, Overcoming the Hurdles That Stand in Our Way. It is looking like we can not only provide additional assistance to those in the nearby Mount Currie area, but that we may be able to offer significant assistance to a few First Nations persons from further distances who want to attend!

We are aware of a few people in this situation - they would give anything to be able to get to the seminar, but the travel and other expenses have made it seem out of reach. To be fair to everyone, we are thinking that if we can put together a list of people who want to be there, we can have a lottery and bring a few more people in.

If you are one of those interested, you could either share your name here, or with Babs Stevens or me on Messenger. We would love to get as many of the gang together as we can!

To those who are wondering how to donate to this cause, please just state your interest here. We have been soliciting sponsorship of daily food and travel per diems the equivalency of $50 USD for one day, or $250 for the entire seminar, although gifts of any size are greatly appreciated! The urgency is in getting the pledges as soon as possible so that transportation and accommodations can be arranged. We will figure out how to collect it - any good ideas are greatly appreciated.

For people wanting to wire money to the First Nation Fund, please email Babs Stevens at: babs@haidagwaii.netI If you want to avoid having to pay the wiring fee to send a $50 donation, I think we will arrange for people like our Trainers or Mastery Program people attending the seminar from various countries to carry some of the donations of others with them.

Thanks again for your energy and passion for this project! xxxxxxx
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sparks on August 24, 2018, 03:41:03 pm
The two previous posts today have very long and unnecessarily complicated links in them. They may be shortened a lot. This is all you need in the newest one:

https://www.facebook.com/PsychologyofVisionUK/posts/2127305597529014

Same goes for the post before that one. This is the direct link to that particular Facebook post:

https://www.facebook.com/Povfriendshelpingfriends/posts/2543553359204392

(Tried to tell Sandy S in a PM, but was told: "User 'Sandy S' has blocked your personal message.")
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on August 25, 2018, 06:21:59 pm
Scam alert!

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PoV friends helping friends
August 12 at 7:43 PM ·

Our First Nations Fund has been fundraising for this event all year to do what we can to help with food and lodging for First Nations participants to be able to attend (special thanks to those who participated in Chuck’s Jams Shirt auctions around the world!).

My use of bolding in the above quote.

Chuck auctions off his used large Hawaiian shirts during events.

I wonder if this is before or after he encourages participants to have lunch with drinks and also gambling if available.

Depending on their location, the Spezzanos claim that they can increase people's luck.

Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on October 18, 2018, 11:28:04 pm
Who is minding the store at Psychology of Vision Canada?

POV Canada appears to have two "official" webpages operated by different people, as well as another person running the recently revived Facebook page who says that he "manages Psychology of Vision Canada."

Psychology of Vision Promotions Inc. seems to be dead in the water, but a new entity, Psychology of Vision Canada, registered in 2018 with Ong Kar Khalsa, the daughter of Spezzano business partner Michael North, as the "owner" according to Open Biz. Is this in coordination with any of the websites mentioned above?

The First Nations Fund is as sketchy as ever. Who is the administrator of that chunk of change these days? Has it ever been subject to a professional audit? As I recall it was not a registered charity in BC. Is that still true?

I find it sadly comic that the Spezzanos, who are bloated with dough and live in a very affluent lifestyle, are begging their followers for small amounts of cash in order to transport more victims to their event at Whistler. Why didn't they simply hold this shindig in a more centrally located and affordable place?

By the looks of things the anticipated number of registrations at Whistler fell short. Also, didn't the First Nations Fund already have enough in the coffers to cover the costs instead of Lency passing the plate among the flock?

Finally, Lency told the world and made a big deal that 2014 was going to be her last holding year workshops outside of Hawaii. Obviously that turned out not to be true. What is the story behind that?

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/10/psychology-of-vision-canadas-recent.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2018/10/psychology-of-vision-canadas-recent.html)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Piff on February 21, 2019, 03:10:26 pm
Chuck Spezzano self published a book "What Men Don't Know About Sex-- That Women Could Teach Them". The book is available through print on demand.

The book is horrendous.

The book includes a "joke" about the violent (and ultimately fatal) rape of a woman in a coma.



A book review: https://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2019/01/a-review-of-what-men-dont-know-about.html
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sparks on February 21, 2019, 04:19:56 pm
Chuck Spezzano self published a book "What Men Don't Know About Sex-- That Women Could Teach Them". The book is available through print on demand.

Also on Amazon (Paperback and Kindle, 2011): https://www.amazon.com/What-Men-Dont-Know-About/dp/0955469295

One customer review:
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1.0 out of 5 stars
December 12, 2015
Format: Kindle Edition
Chuck Spezzano was fined by the State of Hawaii in 2004 for pretending to be a psychologist. I think that makes him an official fraud. His Ph.D. in "Professional Psychology" was not accredited by the APA. Wikipedia rejected an entry for him since he was not "notable" enough. Yet his publicity machine called him one of the world's leading psychologists and he charges over $1000 an hour for personal consultations. Do some homework on this guy before buying into this nonsense. Nothing he says can be trusted. Follow his advice at your peril.
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 16, 2019, 02:07:41 am
During the Jan. 2019 ten-day Psychology of Vision trainers training in Hawaii, which costs the participants thousands of dollars in "license fees" alone not counting travel and hotel, an interesting set of observations were made.

POV trainer and franchise holder Peter Wai Hung Lo of Hong Kong captioned a Jan. 25 Facebook photo of Haida Gwaii POV trainer Babs Stevens with:

Day 4 of Trainers Conference- Happy Birthday Babs a Native Canadian trainer who is a well respected Visionary Spiritual teacher giving it all and serving her community and the World. We love you and Wish you a healthy and joyful life full of Grace and Miracles.

https://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2019/02/trainers-training-2019.html (https://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2019/02/trainers-training-2019.html)

However a comment on the Documents blog had a different view:

Anonymous said...

    Only this group refers to Babs Stevens as "a well respected Visionary Leader", in truth she is hated by her community as she is a well known opportunist which has padded her way to success with community funding for bullshit "healing" pseudos like POV. She will be remembered more for ripping off her first nations people and justifying it .
    Who self appoints themselves from band manager to CEO? She does, plus forcing community plan to accept her POV training as legit which is far from any certifiable method of care.
    Delusional people follow delusional leaders that have their formula strategized for their own self gain.
    February 13, 2019 at 11:57 AM


Meanwhile POV is planning another assault into BC in 2019 with the apparent blessing of the Shíshálh Nation.

https://spezzanosechelt.com/ (https://spezzanosechelt.com/)

Cheaper venue than their Whistler fiasco in 2018 and with lower expectations. Also supposedly it will be just Chuck without Lency this time. I see yet another FN group has been hoodwinked into supporting this charlatan and fraud. Hopefully they will research his record and reconsider although I suppose the coin of the realm POV might bring in might be a deciding factor, as usual with New Age capitalism.

It's all about the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ)





Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on December 05, 2019, 02:36:59 pm
Chuck and Lency Spezzano have earned an entry into the Encyclopedia of American Loons

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2019/12/2278-chuck-lency-spezzano.html (http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2019/12/2278-chuck-lency-spezzano.html)
Title: Re: Chuck Spezzano & Psychology Of Vision
Post by: Sandy S on April 03, 2021, 04:13:16 am
Lency Spezzano who is pretty much from the same era as myself (i.e. Medicare worthy) announced her retirement from POV last week. We do not know the reasons but we are aware her health is fragile. She timed the exit to be on her birthday and of course made an egocentric event out of it. Naturally this brings up several questions--

http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2021/03/participants-need-to-be-able-to-reach.html (http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com/2021/03/participants-need-to-be-able-to-reach.html)

From what we can ascertain POV now has a mere four "trainers" in Canada, only one of which remains from First Nations-- Babs Stevens in Haida Gwaii. Quite a comedown from their former glory in terms of numbers when this New Age cult claimed POV brought a "Cultural Renaissance" to all non-Caucasian/non-USA cultures they exploited. Let's call it "Manifesting Destiny."

A second Canadian trainer, Bernadette Demens is a very low profile figure and it is difficult to see how she is able to afford her expensive annual POV "license fees" and other POV requirements unless she is economically comfortable from other revenue. Psychology of Vision is not for wage slaves or regular working slobs. Only the affluent need apply. The remaining two trainers, Francine Girard and Emily Chu, seem to rely more on income from Asian clients than from Canadian victims. Girard lives across the border in Washington State and humorously calls herself a "therapist" but is unlicensed and unregistered and thus unaccountable to the vulnerable victims who are ensared by her bullshit POV marketing.   

The POV First Nations Fund still exists, formerly administered by Susan How (who left POV at the time of the Great Trainer Purge of 2017) but is seemingly managed now by Babs, and like Francine it is also unregistered and unaccountable with no public reports, etc. In 2018 the Spezzanos made an attempt to hold an expensive soiree in the hoity location of Whistler, BC and that turned out to be a fiasco where it was revealed by accident that the First Nations Fund was a broke and slipshod operation with little responsible oversight. In hindsight, it is obvious POV Canada has suffered without Susan How's administrative abilities which is rather strange since her replacement Babs Stevens is allegedly a professional manager.

It needs to be noted that Lency, who said in 2014 she was through with international POV gigs, later showed up at Whistler and other foreign events. Both of the Spezzanos have left a trail of Trumpian self-inflating lies all designed to bamboozle their followers and increase their income. Nothing they say can be trusted.

Meanwhile, Chuck Spezzano is not going in for this retirement stuff. He is still out there aged 72+ picking the pockets of gullible vulnerable 30/40-something aged love-starved women like some comical chunky New Age gigolo. He is called "Uncle Chuck" by some of his cult followers which is soooo creeeeepy. He chose his path and he took a wrong turn a long time ago. At this late stage he is probably beyond redemption in terms of public confession and making amends. His legacy will be a dark one, if anyone ever bothers to investigate it.

POV had a brief foothold in Canada in Sechelt BC after the Whistler disaster, hosted in part by local Chamber of Commerce types who saw $$$$ but also apparently endorsed by the Shíshálh Nation and Chuck did appear at least once. The COVID-19 pandemic has put a real crimp on the POV commercial spirituality and style. Chuck could not physically bully or hypnotize people in person as long as the virus sanctions were in place.

Since POV is a capitalist personality cult, Lency's alleged retirement is big news, even if her promise to retreat might not be true. We wish Lency a productive retirement where she recovers her health and returns to the same Earth the rest us of live in and she can recognize the amount of damage created by Psychology of Vision and then accepts responsibility for her actions and reaches out to make amends. But that kind of thing only happens in movies.